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Anthis
July 21st, 2009, 05:48 PM
Spartan Camp #97 - 50 gestures + Optional Study of "Dancing"
The aim is to produce 50 gestures by Sunday the 26th of July.
- The gestures can be of anything, human, animal, cavorting capybaras.... You can draw full figures, but you can also go for heads, arms, eyes, or anything specific. All media can be used, both digital or traditional. Coloured or black/white. Quick scribbles or long studies. Imagination or referenced. Clothed or nude. Specifics are up to you!
- In addition to this, participants can choose to do an Optional Study of "Dancing", in any media.
Additional notes on this weeks’ Optional Study: Reference is adviced! Think flow, movement, style, balance. Your reference will probably include clothing too... You can go for a specific dance move or a simple movement. Suggested by krisCrash! Colour, medium, time frame, any specifics are also up to you!
50 poses is a challenge, but don't hurry or stress yourself reaching it! Focus on drawing, as practising is the main goal of this exercise.
Critting each other is highly encouraged!! Share constructive criticism, reference and resources!! Let's help each other get better!
:muscle: Come on soldiers! Flex those muscles!! :muscle:
HALL OF FAME - SPARTAN CAMP #96
krisCrash :star:
Mindbendermind :star:
DKHutcheson
Anthis
Mindbendermind
July 23rd, 2009, 04:11 PM
Didn't think I'd be able to participate this week, but today I filled an A3 paper with gestures so...I'm in :-)
bakadoodle
July 25th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Figured I'd go ahead and post as I go if that's ok? If not just delete the post :) thanks.
No references on these first two images. (pretty obvious) From memory, imagination, and a quick look at the final dance scene of Step Up 2 :P
Oh and let me know if they are too big. Accustomed to 1920x1200 desktop.
http://web.lowcountry.com/~lifessence/spartan97mp02.jpg
http://web.lowcountry.com/~lifessence/spartan97mp.jpg
[edit] A few more, no refs. Haven't had much time today.
Anthis Impressive as usual :) I really need to follow your example and try posemaniacs. Oh and the photo copy thing.. wow, just wow.
Mindbendermind I really like your Frazetta studies. They show you really have an eye for art. The magazine refs look kinda flat. Trick to this whole art thing (imo) is tricking the eye so the brain interprets depth and dimension. I always try to find the liminal line in whatever I'm drawing (something Anthis seems to do instinctively :P) Thanks both of you. It helps me push myself :)
http://web.lowcountry.com/~lifessence/spartan97mp03.jpg
Anthis
July 26th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Crits below.
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Mindbendermind
July 26th, 2009, 09:20 AM
Nice drawings, Anthis. Beautiful shading on the man carrying that weight.
Some great drawings, Baka. That shading on the first nude one really shows the shapes in an impressive way. Inspiring.
This week I have some mixed bag as usual. On the first image there are figures drawn from a fashion mag, one from a Step-by-step tutorial in V. Shane's book "Fantastic Realms" (the big demon in the middle) and one quick no ref.
The other image consists of some Frazetta studies, some more finished than others.
All drawings done in pencil, HB:
Outis
July 26th, 2009, 07:43 PM
Hi all, this is my first time posting on ConceptArt. This site has inspired me to learn how draw, and I've begun with the Vilppu drawing manual.
All the gesture drawings are in HB pencil, with Posemaniacs as a reference.
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Dancing study is ink, and the body and clothed are based on this reference:
http://www.loisgreenfield.com/dance/flemenco/653/flemenco-vivo-carlota-santana_2.html
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Anthis
July 26th, 2009, 08:42 PM
Lacked time for crits earlier but here they are;
bakadoodle; Post ahead! Size is fine, its usually not crowded here either way. And sunday is just a deadline.
Nice figures. Good variation going on. And you are unafraid of trying out tough poses. Which is perfect. Your figure construction has somewhat of a Loomis approach, you used his books? You seem to have a good idea on anatomy. Still sometimes you're losing some of the proportions. Certain guidelines may help. Like some artbooks measure body lenght and width in a number of 'heads'. Allowing for easy measuring. Or for example an arm hanging straight down should reach like halfway the upper part of the leg. Most of this is not set in stone, but it can help to think about it.
Comparison may be the best. Compare and measure up different limbs within one pose. Poses among eachother. You can compare your drawn figures with your own body. Comparing with reference is probably the best. Just by flicking your eyes back and forth between your sketch and a reference source you'll notice differences in anatomy. Great way of learning, also when you're not directly copying from ref. Mind that this is all just ideas from personal experience, hope its of any use.
Great going, keep it up! Good stuff.
Whats the liminal line by the way? I do usually try to build up a pose with some quick lines and shapes.
Mindbendermind; It's funny, I've attended the color theory streaming course here on CA and some Frazetta got covered. So I'm starting to recognize some of your poses.
You're doing a nice job building shapes. Also I'm noticing you can add more detail, more shapes, and even values now, while not getting messy. Many of your previous studies had far less detail but much more scribbly lines.
Those value studies will surely help you, great to see those in there! Those clothing studies can be tough, I'm just starting with that myself. I think you have to sort of picture for yourself what's below those clothes. I'm not so sure though.
Outis; Hi and welcome to CA. This is a great place for learning, so you're good here :)
You should look into your printer settings to make your drawings better visible. I've had the same problem before, should be some simple settings.
I think I can see most of it though. Posemaniacs is really useful for this sort of quick figure studies, or warmups. Good to see some flow lines and construction in there. like for example the line following the spine. And shapes of the masses like the torso and pelvis. Those forms and lines really help. A good way to check the proportions of your own drawings is to measure two elements against each other. For example measure the leg vs arm. And you'll notice if things have gone wrong.
Good studies! Nice optional too. Interesting to see some ink action.
Nice! I'll have a new thread up tomorrow.
Outis
July 26th, 2009, 11:38 PM
Anthis: Thanks for the kind words and the warm welcome! I'll definitely try to mess around with the settings and get a better resolution next time. Your gesture drawings set a high standard. Your dancing study was so well rendered I thought you had posted the reference picture twice.
Mindbendermind: I really like the Frazetta drawings, there's a great sense of action. Your shadows do a great job of conveying bulk.
Bakadoodle: Great expression and pose on your gesture drawing. They made me smile!
bakadoodle
July 27th, 2009, 12:00 AM
Outis Thanks! Always nice to know you made someone smile :)
Anthis Umm, well, liminal line isn't something I learned from a book, it's just something I found really draws my eye. It may be called something else, but its "implied" line maybe of how light wraps around a solid mass and creates a flow. I'd really need to find a visual reference to properly describe it sorry. I have no formal art training, I've browsed some of the Loomis stuff though, but never done any 'studies' of it. I have an ass backwards way of doing things. I kinda feel that putting too much emphasis on doing something someone elses way forces you into a particular style not your own.
Anthis
July 28th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Outis ; Thanks! Sure, no big deal though. But trust me this place is great for learning, you'll find many more exercises and such around here.
bakadoodle ; Ah, think I can see what you mean. It's as you described though: I think drawing 'as if in 3d' works. Starting out with 3d shapes to sketch the big masses of the body really helps for me. And is used frequently among others, as far as I can tell. It's covered well in books by Bridgman and Loomis. I agree you should completely copy someone else's style or methods. But I don't think that's what studying is about. By drawing their drawings, you can realize the thoughts behind their process and learn about the subject matter. From figure construction and anatomy to drawing technique and mark making. I always feel there is a lot to learn from that. Use what you find useful. And of course, always think for yourself, hehe.
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