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Moccomouse
January 4th, 2004, 11:05 AM
...or have I been without sleep for too long?
http://img8.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Moccomouse/bananagunj.jpg
The magazine (2) is fed through the chamber by a small tooth+gear mechanism (1) powered by an electric motor synchronized with the firing pin. The spiky (3) things on the magazine are the teeth for the feeding mechanism, not ammunition.
The ammunition is beside the teeth, not behind it. The shell casings remain in the magazine, and would be disposed of with a quick release lever.
Is this feasible or am I off my rocker today?
Johannes
January 4th, 2004, 11:58 AM
the way I understand it, the ammunition rounds never leave their place on the magazine. Instead the magazine moves and the hammer ignites every round when it is placed behind the barrel. A bit similar to a revolver where the round also never change its place in the drum, it instead moves.
they would have to be fastened real good to the magazine. Im also a bit worried about the explosion, as I recall, the casing swell a bit during the explosion, tightening the chamber, I guess that dont can happen here. Im not sure the casings can withstand the preasures without support from the chamber, which they are usually inserted in.
Also, a big problem would be loss of gaspreassure between the barrel and the round (this is a bit of a problem in revolvers, and the reason why a revolver cant be silenced) - this would affect the bulletspeed and maybe even accuracy.
This could probably be solved by doing a special round, that has thicker walls and is made with great precision where it connects with the barrel. :)
The problems aside, I think its a rocking design and idea! :D
Good luck with the design (I hope Ur not actually building one... ;) )
Moccomouse
January 4th, 2004, 12:52 PM
heheh.....uh......no. When it comes to mechanical design, I often try and make something that would actually be physically possible, my stuff swings wildly back and forth from 'practical' and 'mechanically sound' to 'were you drunk when you drew that?'
this was from an old sketch, but it was pretty vague, so I tried to figure out a way for it to work.
dfacto
January 4th, 2004, 01:07 PM
It would be possible, but only if the magazine was changed. With a traditional handgun type magazine, where the bullets are one on top of the other with nothing in between (like you have) the exploding gasses would leak out and this would drastically decrease muzzle velocity, which would make the gun suck. If the magazone was a solid chunk with holes in it and then bullets were in these holes, like a revolver drum, then it would work without losing power. The magazine would be like a part of the barrel and if it was made precisely so that it sealed well with the gun, then it would work just fine.
But you are off your rocker with the amunition feeding idea. That electromotor thing is just not worth it, and its not reliable enough. I was trying to design a gun a while ago and I thought of having a motor drive a slide or just pop the ammo into the chamber, but I realized that that would be too slow, or just too fragile, so I went back to a very simple slide design.
I actually want to post that on this forum to ask if it would work too. Thx for giving me the idea mocco.
Matt Elder
January 4th, 2004, 01:57 PM
Thats a cool design but I'm not sure about the physics on the gun and the practical application. That aside, I still like the design and maybe in the future when everything is nanotechnology or something, this will work nicely ;)
Al Ian
January 4th, 2004, 02:24 PM
You could possibly answer the question of "CAN" we do it? The question I cant seem to come up with an answer would be "WHY"? What is the purpose?
Does this invention make a gun better for its perpous or make it fit another perpous it previosly did not fit? :confused:
MSW
January 4th, 2004, 08:33 PM
How is one suppost to hit a target with the magazine in the way of the gun sights?
Pretty cool idea all the same :D
fungi
January 5th, 2004, 05:49 PM
like this :P
http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/bren1.jpg
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