new stuff: big bellied pit fighter

[keyth]

actually this is me when nordstrand punches me in the solar plexus and tries to grab my foster book!


http://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fatboyweb.jpg

[daarken]

awww! more nice stuff! i really like the textures on the wooden handles. heh, his belly is like a big peach! totally awesome.

[foster]

Ha! His belly is like a big peach, and I love it! It is an excellent drawing of a distended gut and also has the beauty of a fuzzy peach. Great contrast in on stop.

Keyth this is an excellent drawing. It is fun to look at has great texture, expression and finesse. If I could find something to say that might improve it I would but I will just say thanks for the drawing lesson.

O.K. This is not something to change but it is freaking me out. He has boobs or rather gynoplastia (tried to find the correct spelling of this in my little dictionary but came up short, is there a doctor in the house?). I?m sure you all have seen "Fight Club" and the character that Meatloaf acted.

Jon

[foster]

My wife came to the rescue with a better dictionary.

Gynecomastia, i wanted to make sure you used the right word at your next cocktail party.

Sorry for the interruption keyth.

Jon

[KeatonMarks]

It may not be scientific, but i beileve "Man Tits" is a good summation.

[daarken]

bob has bitch tits

[Grooveholmes]

HAHAHA, Sorry Fost, I like the term Bitch Tits best. Crude but it makes me guffaw. for that added effect you should add some hair to those nips.:barfing:

INcredible rendering Keyth. Ver'ver'niice. What is that subtle shift in hue? Is that from the scan or what?

[Nordstrand, T]

:D

Excellent light rendering, didn't know you were that handy with the leadsticks Keyth! I'd never dare a jab at that humongous belly, though. :eek:

[keyth]

you weenies!!!:p i slave over a drawing and all you can talk about are breasts. i worry...oh do i worry about my digifriends. but to be honest, i must say...these breasts are a bit feminine. maybe it's the sudafed, or maybe i got lost and realized...hmmmmm.

foster and others i thank you very much for the kind words...breasts and peaches and stuff........oh how i worry:D

hey nordstrand, i must edit this since we posted so close....
thanks man. i have some other posts in this section...may be a few pages back though. oh, and we'll see what happens when you try to elbow my super plexus rexus thingy there buddy.....

[BoBo_the_seal]

Wow, great work!

You are rapidly becoming one of my favorite artist.

Keep it up.

BoBo

[keyth]

wow, first foster and then bobo...i feel all warm inside:chug:

[Wetterschneider]

Hey Keyth, solid character with a ton of personality. The weapons are making me dizzy, though, as they seem to angle away from the picture plane at the bottom but towards the picture plane at the top. That would be a subtle and not uncommon error for any of us.

[Fozzybar]

Yep...Wetterschneider, that's, what i noticed first. The balls (of his weapon :)) are viewed from top, though the perspective is different...

[keyth]

goosh darnit. you got me guys. i kinda started to notice the same thing as the peice was finishing up. one of these days...one of these days i tell ya.

[Oblio]

i've told you - beer NOT good! :bash::chug: :D

Oblio

[Lono]

this guy is bas ass Keyth!

all of your booboo's and boobs are so minor that it doesnt hurt the overall piece at all in my opinion.

lets see more!


-Lono

[taff]

I simply love your style keyth, very, very awesome. I am curious how long does such a drawing take?

Kudos! Really nice shading!!

[keyth]

lono: thanks man. it's much appreciated!!!!
taff: or was it taft...HA HA. it usually depends. i can do one of these in one sitting if it's a good day. these are for myself so...most of the time i will take my time. i'm still learning though so hopefully speed will come with time.
oblio: beer good. look at how much blubber this guy has for those cold chicago winters:p

thanks guys!!!

[nardfrog]

Keytherz! You post once again! The rendering is beautifull. I love the hand on the right. Couple things though, of course (it woudlnt be right if i didnt say sumpin, right?) On the right mase/club the claw at the bottom looks odd because it is chillin a differrent direction the the rest of the mase. I dont even know why im telling you though - its soo knitt picky. But For the other thing, its better advice. His stomach and breasts seem too perky for a fat bastard. All in, this is one of the best renderings ive seen you do. Hands and face are great. Kudos

tyler.

[hed|lamb]

This guy is hot, bad teefs, tits and all. =D
Awesome image Keyth, especially the textures.

[MindCandyMan]

Hey Keyth I had a quick question. How do you shade like that...it doesn't look like you used any strokes at all. Did you crosshatch, etc... I am just starting to learn shading so I was just curious thanks.

[keyth]

hey mindcandy man. different areas require different things. for example the wood-like texture on the weapons are made just by going up and down while varying degrees of pressure. while doing this i'll also kinda noodle the pencil around in my fingers sometimes for the desired effect. it's like constructing tree bark but you have to imagine what it may look like WHILE you are laying the lead down. i will press down harder on the outside edges of the weapons middle part to make it darker therefore giving it a sense of roundness. also it's important to try and keep in mind where the large areas of darks and whites go then add little details over those(i'm still learning myself...it takes a long time).

but other areas like the belly and stuff call for something different(this is just how i do it...some use blenders and other tools so....experiment). i use a .5 mechanical pencil, flatten the lead down a bit at an angle, and then just barely grazing the paper i lay down a light shade. sometimes when i do this i'll lay a light shade down in three different directions, on top of each other. this way you can get a nice super solid light grey. then, where darker areas are needed to define the form a bit, i lay those down. sounds easy huh? it gets easier with pracitce. but you have to practice a lot. like A LOT. there are tons of tutorials and stuff on the internet and in books. check'em out and once you adapt the techniques you have read about....man practice them, practice them, practice them. once you learn them and notice progressions in your own work whether it's rendering something from life or from imagination...you'll realize it's all worth it. besides rendering is fun as hell.

keep doing your portraits it's good practice as well. i hope this helps but to be honest it's a lot of experimentation and practice. no matter what though...KEEP 'EM COM'N!!!!!!!

cheers

:chug:

[keyth]

oh, also study other peoples pencil works. look up travis charest. he's pretty nuts with a pencil. try to copy something they did. just like jason manley was doing with the apprentice stuff. later. see you in the spod section:p

oh something i used to do. i would simply take an attractive black and white photo( i know it's a photo but at 1, 2, 3 o'clock in the morning it's tough to attend a life drawing class around the city) and i would try to replicate the tones and shading with a pencil....trying to get the gradations just right. just punch away every day. jesus christ i blabbing like a fool.

see ya.

[MindCandyMan]

Thanks so much keyth...that is really helpful. I really appreciate it. You aren't babbling at all...I soak everything in like a sponge. Thanks so much for taking the time out. This sketch is awesome (Gynecomastia or not) :) . Great work man. Yeah I will see you in the self portrait gallery hehe. Peace,

(Thanks again man for all your help)

[Octave13]

Keyth: Awesome drawing, dude! It's nice to see some work that came right out of your imagination. The only other work I've seen from you is in the self portaits thread and those are awesome, too. As soon as I buy a mirror, I think I may start contributing my own.

MindCandyMan: I used the exact same shading method that Keyth suggested, in the latest thread I posted, called "post-it note portraits." Basically, just hold the pencil at the end and let its own weight make the light strokes, for the lighter tones, and gradually apply more pressure, for the darker ones. keep layering the graphite like that and you can achieve a nice, smooth gradient of tones, quite easily.

[MindCandyMan]

Thanks Octave...that's awesome. That is a really good tip about holding the pencil on it's end to make those lighter tones..that's really good. Tips like that really help me. I really appreciate it. I love this forum...helping me grow so much!

[Octave13]

Yeah, this forum deffinitely rocks. Before I found this place, I was in a real funk, artistically, then I saw work from guys like Andrew Jones, Daarken, Keyth here, Ruby Genesis, Davi and the other regulars on here, who inspired me to finally pick up the pencil again and try to improve myself. God, those guys are serious bad asses! Threads like this one really pump me up and make me want to draw something.

[keyth]

hey thanks octave13. i have some other drawings in here but they may be a few pages back.

mindcandy: on another note. what i do sometimes (which is extremely similar to what octave does) is i'll hold one corner of the bristol (i use bristol board) about an inch off my table. then i'll just let the weight of the pecil dictate the initial layer of shading. but remember it always helps to have a nice flattened lead. cheers.

[MindCandyMan]

Cool...great thanks for the tips. I think a major problem of mine is not starting light and not having enough patience to build the tones slowly. Thanks for the tip!

[Hexal]

That is such a great drawing, Di you use a redish pencil or something cause to me it looks red?:chug:

[keyth]

THANKS HEXAL!!!!!!!!! i scan my drawings and turn up the red abit in photoshop. just for fun.:p thanks again.

[Hexal]

Oh thats so cool, It really looks like its done with a red type pencil.

[SamusNeo]

Niiice picture and good foreshortning on that forearm. That is something that always is a struggle for me. I like how you handled it. The character has a nice meaty three dimentional look too. Keep up the cool work.

[keyth]

thanks samus!!!!:chug: . i keep a mirror at my table so whenever i get stuck on something i just "strike the pose" so to speak. i recommend buying one. it can solve a lot of problems. except i had to wing it on the face and the belly because well....i'm skinny and i ain't THAT ugly:p .