View Full Version : Raffix - trying to steadily improve
June 21st, 2009, 05:27 PM
go to last paaaage!!!
June 21st, 2009, 05:34 PM
Hey dude, great start so far! The 2nd and 3rd drawings have a great sense of form. In the last one, the painting, the eyes are uneven causing the face to be unsymmetrical, so that's something to watch out for in the future. Just up the good work! ^^
June 21st, 2009, 06:14 PM
the sketches show you know anatomy. Work on your lines!
but still amazingly good for a 15 year old, there are some other kids around here ( Miles, and others but ive forgot their names) check em out ;)
I'd wish I discovered CA when I was your age. If you keep it up you'll be a good artist when your 21 or so :)
June 22nd, 2009, 02:08 PM
Thank you for your replies guys :D
I am going up to London each day for the next two weeks, so hope to get lots of life drawing done from unsuspecting sleeping people! mwhahaha.
In the meanwhile, this is a copy of captain america, a drawing of my foot and a pen drawing of (some of) a face, with ref. used.
June 22nd, 2009, 02:12 PM
Don't do what I did when I was growing after 15 and draw less. Draw more! (Although it gets tough when life gets busy, just keep finding the time to draw!)
Really, I think if you keep up your current attitude and you keep drawing, you'll be phenomenal in years time. I like how you're doing studies of yourself, and you plan on drawing from real life as studies. That'll really help.
Keep up the good work!
Edit: And you know what... I want to see where you end up. *Subscribes*
June 26th, 2009, 02:07 PM
hmmm...fewer people seem to fall asleep on trains than i expected :(
Well, first is my only on-the-train drawing (don't like it very much), second is a pen portrait done without a ref (minus 5 points for drawing on lined paper) and third is a quick biro doodle (minus 5 points for drawing on envelopes).
June 27th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Hey, at least you're not shy of drawing on lined paper. :)
Good face on it! It reminds me of a caricature of some president... what was his name... can't remember.
September 15th, 2009, 03:12 PM
Havn't put nearly as much stuff as I would have liked to in here, so hopefully this is the start of much more stuff.
This was one third of my entry to this week's chow (NPC design). didn't finish in time for the deadline, but here's what I got done for one of my npcs ( a crusadery type) and i'll try to finish it, along with the other three. this is my first ever digital picture, so be nice XD
Thanks for any comments!
October 2nd, 2009, 01:45 PM
Well I have finally started drawing more, and here are three drawings from my class title: 'viewpoints'.
*had to use my camera for these as school s/book is too large for scanner* :(
Well, first is a self-portait with my feet nearest the mirror (i look really grumpy cuz i'd been sitting with my back straight on that table for 25 mins),
Second is a drawing of my legs/feet on a ladder (everyone seems to be confused by the viewpoint: I was sitting in an attic hatch with my feet on the ladder rung)
And third is a quick fineliner portait of a friend (who also happened to be drawing).
Any suggestions/tips/hints/corrections/critiques are very welcome!!!
P.S. if anyone has any bright ideas on an interesting take on 'viewpoints' as a topic title then i would love to hear them :P
October 6th, 2009, 02:34 PM
thought i'd update the fineliner drawing - seemed very empty.......
October 10th, 2009, 05:45 PM
a wip for a pencil self-portrait - will finish tomorrow.......please comment, i'm getting lonely in this thread! XD
October 10th, 2009, 05:58 PM
Man, 16 years old and your self portraits are looking neat. Like mentioned above. dont leave school and stop drawing like many of us. Keep this going. You have got what you need. Just keep at it :) Nice one :)
October 10th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Your portraits are looking swell! I'm especially jealous of the way you draw noses. But try to shake things up; don't stick to doing front on and 3/4 views of the faces. Study some Loomis and try so really crazy angles.
October 10th, 2009, 08:56 PM
It's awesome that you joined at your age. I joined this website when I was 15 as well (17 now). Learned so much over these 2 years. Look up Miles definitely, huge inspiration to anyone any age; others are Dile (I believe he's 17?) and lilnebo (14). And maybe me :)
I love all the young artists on here, fun to look through their stuff. I'll be watching this thread.
Good work man.
October 11th, 2009, 06:42 AM
Thanks for all your replies!
Alucid - thanks a lot man, i hope i have the perseveance to keep going! i'll try some of tose 'bridgman' studies in your great s/book, they look really helpful (not that i know who/what bridgman is but i'll find out!)
Crrristian - thanks, i do like drawing noses XD i will def. try some more from different angles. just looked at your s/book - wow!! will def. subscribe.
drd - i checked out those people you mentioned - very helpful, thanks. also loved your sketchbook, another subscribe i think!!
October 11th, 2009, 01:42 PM
This is where I got to on that self-portrait - me looking very cross eyed!
as always comments/advice/hints/tips/adjustments/guide/tutorials and the like are very well received!!
hmmm...didn't scan all that well. oh well.
October 18th, 2009, 01:28 PM
well i havn't done as much stuff lately as i'd have like, but thought i'd stick up this study of a lucian freud etching ("lord goodman in his yellow pyjamas") just to keep the s/book ticking over.
October 22nd, 2009, 02:31 PM
great stuff going on here man
you've got a good eye for proportions/anatomy, but i think you should try and get yourself into a life drawing class if you can. i think you KIND OF know whats going on under the skin, so you're CLOSE with your anatomy, but with a little more study i think you'd be right on. you're very good at drawing what you see on the surface, and i think if you know what was going on underneath a little better you'd explode!
and i say fuck it, go for the digital stuff. if you start now at the age you are now, you'll be awesome by the time you're out of school and looking for work. just do a lot of tutorials. there are TONS of great techniques out there to use. study, practice, and kill it.
October 22nd, 2009, 04:35 PM
Well, i have finally got into a life drawing class, so expect lots of figure drawings over the next few weeks :D
I'll be doing a couple of 2 minute poses, a 20 min pose and a 45 minute pose each week :yum:
This was my very first week, so not that great, but I am still happy with them and especially the long pose (although i would have liked more time to add more tone).
SO: - 2 min pose in oil pastel (was pretty happy with these)
- 5 min pose in fineliner
- 20 min pose in pencil with chalk and charcoal (don't like this one so much)
- and a 35 min pose in pencil.....
**as always, replies are great!!!**
October 23rd, 2009, 06:55 AM
Today we had a male model, and i am usually slightly better at drawing men::lifedrawing:
- three 2 min poses (was really pleased with these)
- one 35 min pose (was pleased, but would have liked more time to add tone)
please comment/criticise/give hints,paintovers and anythingthing else!! thanks :D
October 26th, 2009, 08:36 AM
The third week wasn't particularly great - didn't get a long pose in. Oh well - here's what I did get done:
- two 2 min poses, i was actually very pleased with how these turned out (charcoal).
- a 10 min pose using two oil pastels.
******i appreciate all comments and would love it if someone would take the time to do a quick paintover to show where i'm going wrong. thanks!!********
October 26th, 2009, 10:16 AM
If you open up an anatomy book or two and study where all the muscles and bones go, you'll have it easier figuring out the harder bits of a figure pose. That said, you already have a good eye and a good sense of form, not to mention lots of confidence in your linework, certainly for a 16-year-old. So i can see your art going nice place in the not too distant future.
November 6th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Thanks Walnut :)
More life drawings: -two pages of 2 min sketches (quite happy with these)
- and an 8 min pose in pencil (also happy with this one - im on a roll :)
November 6th, 2009, 09:08 PM
Pretty darn good for being 16. You started off better than I did, you're on the right road!
Keep it up.
Words of advice: try to keep you shading less messy. Let the pencil strokes follow the form instead of putting them all over the place.
Keep it up man!
November 9th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Havn't got anything much to add yet (though I do have another figure drawing class tomorrow evening), so I just thought i'd post the process i'm taking for a part of my school project i'm doing on etching.
This isn't real etching (with acid and wax and the whole shabang), but i'm practicing with perspex and printing ink...
So, first is the initial perspex plate, and second is the first print i made from it. Quite pleased :D
*****i would still love some paintovers/corrections on my figure drawings if anyone could spare the time. thanks!****
November 10th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Didn't have the best life drawing session today, didn't really get into it, but i thought i'd put my long pose up here just o keep the sketchbook moving.
***as always any comments are great, and red lines (or any other colour lines come to that) would be fantastic :D *******
again i kinda ran out of time on this one, spent too long on construction, not enough shading/tone. the model was also further away than i'd have liked for portraiture. oh well.
November 13th, 2009, 05:11 PM
another unlawful bump :(
does anyone know how i can get my sketchbook some more views?
November 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM
i wish i knew, i have no replies on my sketchbook lol
anyway, im really jealous of your drawings, we are the same age. you seem to know your anatomy really well and your excellent at drawing people. keep it up, ill be keepin an eye on your sketchbook ;)
November 16th, 2009, 04:44 PM
another very small update (i'm just paranoid about not updating my s/book semi-regularly).
study of a face on scraper board (was really fun :D )
November 19th, 2009, 12:24 PM
a quick study of a rembrandt. it's originally an etching but i did it in pencil.
November 19th, 2009, 12:33 PM
mm i have a second page : ) :yayca:
November 20th, 2009, 02:48 PM
a quick sp, really quick, ~3 mins then my mirror was stolen -.-
November 22nd, 2009, 02:42 PM
well, this one is.......bad.
it's my first ever try with oil paints, and, although this is still a wip, it has gone.....badly.
oh well. finished some time this week so please check here again soon:yayca:
November 22nd, 2009, 03:09 PM
I like your handling on the hair in that last portrait. The face is really well sketched, but I think some details are getting changed in the painting that are making it less successful.
Oil paints are hard to get the hang of. Normally oil painters lay down a dark base color, like a coppery red brown, and work on that. It means that you can lay down a lot less media which is good because it'll take SOOO long to dry. You can leave parts of the canvas untouched, but you'll need to work more heavily in ares you want to be light. With the white paper, you just have to work so much harder to describe the skin.
November 22nd, 2009, 03:13 PM
I think your doing good, just try to have fun with the art, seems like it'll grow on you... :)
those life drawings/poses from the last page looked darn good!
November 22nd, 2009, 06:11 PM
MoKhi - thanks a lot for the tips on oils. I really do want to become better with them so all advice is really appreciated. Looked in your sketchbook, wow!! i love all your sketches of animals, especially the owls, soo good :D
(also love the macbeth reference :) )
Lakka - thanks a lot, that means a lot to me. Had a peek in your sketchbook and i love your enviros and landscapes, some of them are really atmospheric.
November 22nd, 2009, 06:39 PM
sorry for double post without art, and this isn't another of my many shameless bumps -
When working with oils on the second layer, should my paints be thicker, or should I thin them out more than in the first layer?
don't suppose anyone will read this before i start paiting again, but any help would be most welcome.
November 26th, 2009, 12:06 PM
well, my experiment with oil paint didn't go too well, but i will not give up! another oil paint will be along soon.
In the meantime I have some more sketches from school. All from life, they're not that great but everyone moves around so much >:|
November 28th, 2009, 08:43 AM
10-15 mins from life
i suck at perspective:
November 29th, 2009, 11:13 PM
Alot of good stuff happening with your portraits. Solid approach using large forms and straights. Stuff that takes some folks a struggle to get.
Your life drawings are pretty good.
What I see is great observational skills. I like that you use large shapes to draw with. And you are controlling your lines. All pluses. Handling your pencil in this way is key to getting a cleaner gesture of the figure, especially in a life drawing session. You ARE getting a lot of information for 2 minutes.
I like this one:
It has a strong sense of form and solidity. Trick is to pull out all the extra lines and still retain this sense ofsolid form. That's a good analytical exercise to figure this out.
I personally don't think you need a paint-over. I think just keeping a few concepts in mind as you hit these life sessions is what will bring you forward. I've a feeling you pick up ideas quickly.
As for "shading" it IS better to spend time on getting the proportions & spatial relationships as close to accurate as possible. Values help explain the lighting situation, such as source ex. sun, lamp etc.
You won't get much time in 2 imnute sketches for some of that information.
Shadow pattern should also re-inforce the gesture and help to explain the form. In hard lighting with dramatic shadows, the core should also be a gesture.
SB views are just a matter of time. Keep posting stuff in here and posting in other books. Reciprocation is a good thing. In any case, keep adding to this book. It will get noticed.
And, yes. Never give up.
November 30th, 2009, 03:52 PM
You have very good observational skills for your age. Mix the life drawing up with still lives to practice form.
With oils it's fat over lean, so your first layer should be thinner. If you want to do it in one go, you need to get the colour and value right first time.
If you want more comments, you have to comment on other's SBs - for every 5 you might get one back, but you have to keep up with it. If you want someone older than your mother nagging you, visit mine.
December 3rd, 2009, 04:44 PM
Two very quick pen drawings, they're both from photos and neither is very good, but i like to keep my sketchbook ticking over....i also thought the mahoosive boxer was rather amusing
December 4th, 2009, 03:00 PM
worked up that fineliner drawing a little and tried to sort out the horrendous perspective.....phone pic so not great
December 5th, 2009, 12:15 PM
That's very good. Maybe a light sketch in pencil first would help with the perspective, you can always rub it out later.
December 5th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Hmm...16. That is a difficult age, for many hopeful artists. If you're not one of the crazy 17 year old kids capable of professional level digitals in a matter of minutes who for some reason is almost never living in America, you're usually in the same boat as...just about everyone else your age.
Online sketchbooks are difficult enough as it is, and while it might be nice to think that the age thing would attract more people, it's really no different than anyone else's. Disappointing, yes?
*Please be advised that a good bit of what I'm going to say following this, will contrast very directly with what a lot of other people will say. Take it for what you will.
Well, for reasons I'm not entirely sure of...perhaps that I am at work, and there's not a whole lot to do at a phone job when the phones are dead, I will give you some advice. Perhaps not the type of advice you're hoping for, but advice nonetheless.
First thing's first. Do not expect responses, criticisms, helpful paintovers, or many thousands of thread views just because you're posting your artwork. Or really...at all. Sure it'll happen from time to time. But unless you happen to be one of the incredibly talented professionals or popular individuals who've been here for quite some time, or have a system of connections set up for a steady stream, it just isn't likely to be like you want it. Even if you're posting art consistently. This is the internet. And you're floating around in what is one of the largest communities of artists, hobbyists, students, fans, and professionals in the world. And unfortunately, as nature would have it, as creative as artists can be it also comes with a bit of an ego that can (sometimes) result in focusing all attention very...inwardly. Really quite a shame.
And so if the only reason you're posting this sketchbook is for lots of responses, if you're posting art for the recognition and for all however many hundreds of people who look at it to actually say something, you should rethink your priorities. To be an artist is much more than posting art for the sake of replies, it is posting art for the sake of the art itself. For the ideas, for the expression, or just because you feel like it while you're practicing. Is it wrong to enjoy getting replies and criticisms? Absolutely not, we all do. Is it wrong to be posting and expecting them to happen consistently? I won't call anything like that..."wrong" - that would be rude, I'll just say it's not going to be worth very much.
It is a depressing life off and on, and it takes a long time, a lot of unrecognized effort in order to actually start getting replies and genuine help. I think it is reasons such as this that causes a lot of people to fall off to the wayside and never live their dream. A shame, but it can't be helped, really.
And now for some advice concerning your art and direction as a whole:
I think right now, you need to sit down and really ask yourself "What do I want to do? What do I want to be good at? Posting fantastical environments? Creative characters? Disgusting creatures? Wicked mechs? Fine art, of some sort? What do I REALLY want to create. What are the ideas I want to portray." Figure this out, and figure it out fast. Or at least have a vague idea of it. Because here's what happens otherwise.
I notice you're doing a lot of portraits and life drawings. Well, that's all well and good. And they're not turning out terribly. But I'll say it flat out. I can't count on all my digits, even remotely, the amount of sketchbooks I've seen lasting multiple YEARS, in which the individual starts out with lots of self portraits and life drawing. And you know what? Two or three years later. They are able to do self portraits and life drawing. And sure their NEW portraits and life drawings might be a little cleaner, slightly more confident. But have they really learned anything from all that "studying"? an they do more...outside of it? I couldn't tell you, because in the multiple years of artwork, I never saw it. I'll let you interpret that however you want.
Short version: If what you want to do is be able to draw your face or sketch naked people. Then draw your face and sketch naked people. But if what you want to do is be able to draw from your imagination, create a monster, or design a costume, or portray a race of people that doesn't exist. You have to do THAT. Studying isn't bad, but it's completely and utterly worthless if it isn't helping you to achieve your long term goal as a whole. And if your long term goal is to do more than studies, then you need to do more than studies. It's that simple. Deliciously simple.
This is why I told you to ask yourself what you wanted. And perhaps tell us, as well, more specifically. If I know that what you want to do is paint naked people or draw things from life for your career. I will step away and let you proceed, commenting singularly on the technique. But if what you want to do is more than that, then you need to do more than that.
Not bad. Given your age, you have some talent. And I'm sure you are aware of this, hence, your interest in pursuing it. One thing I notice most often, your lines. You currently have this thing that a lot of people have when they're younger, this thing with lines. LINES! And then some more lines. If you want to draw a circle, you can theoretically do it all in one nice line. Probably it'll take more than that, but you can always keep a nice seamless flow to portray just that one line. You do not need twenty lines to make an edge, you just need one.
You probably don't try to do it, and when you're younger and don't have years worth of experience it can be a little bit difficult to be confident enough to keep that pencil down on the paper. But unless the style you're going for involves lots of them scribblies and whispy lines for the sake of defining just one (which usually then appears really thick), you should probably try to control your lines and use them much more efficiently. It happens here and there in some of your studies when you seem to just let it flow and get your forms down - an entire leg in just two or three lines, but it could really stand to be more consistent.
It is worthwhile, perhaps, or perhaps not...but I'll mention it anyway - that I am not a professional artist. I'm not even really that great. I'm just getting started, and there's so many people out there with much more experience who blow me completely out of the water. Still, though, I felt it appropriate to share this with you. How you interpret it or its worth is up to you. I'm fine with being the crazy batshit.
In the meantime, if this is your dream, define your dream - and pursue it with everything you have. Every aspect of it. Regardless of criticism, comments, money, or anything of the sort. Dreams are there for good reason, and there's no point in having them if you settle for anything less than exactly what you want.
Cheers for now.
Edit: Wow that's long! Haha! ...my bad.
December 5th, 2009, 09:05 PM
On that oil-painting self-portrait - its not gone that badly - put another layer onto it. You will find that in doing so, it will average out and solidify the features. Try it, you have nothing to lose, and quite a bit to gain. Use the paint at out-of-the-tube consistency, or slacken it off just slightly with white spirit or turps, or a 50/50 mix of these with linseed oil. Take your brushstrokes in different directions from those on your first layer.
If you come along to the V&A on friday, I'll go through some painting basics with you.
December 6th, 2009, 06:10 AM
Whoa Two Listen seemed to have a bit too much spare time at his job.
Thnx for passing by and leaving a comment ;)
your work looks amazingly good for a 16 year old!
try working some more on the way you shade, it can really define or undefine your shapes.
And as Two listen suggested, step out of your studylife comfort zone and do some sketches form your imagination. Dont be scared if it fails, you need to build it up just as everything else.
Cheers and good luck ;)
December 6th, 2009, 07:39 AM
Thanks a lot guys, and hopefully see you on friday dave.
It sounds like I should be trying new things so I will def start drawing more from imagination.
December 10th, 2009, 03:53 PM
It gets harder when to try to incorporate your studies into imaginative pieces. Do both and learn from both, and don't forget to have fun.
December 11th, 2009, 04:18 PM
Well i've had loads of good advice from everone so am starting to do more drawing from my imagination.
A page of heads. All mostly front views as these are my first few. (And yes, i know the bottom left one is crap).
December 12th, 2009, 08:27 AM
this really doesn't have any relevance, but this is the result of an unattended classical civilizations lesson and freely available board pens. :P
also this is the first photo i have seen of the back of my head head....verrry weird
December 12th, 2009, 09:09 AM
Forgot to post this, the second stage of my oil sp. I'll probably stop here as it's gone badly and the flaws are very obvious, but i hope that i learnt a lot from it and will have another go soon. i'd love some c&c
December 12th, 2009, 12:27 PM
more heads from my head
December 12th, 2009, 01:13 PM
You are applying oil-paint far too thinly, it looks like you are using it like watercolour washes.
I disagree - to some extent - with the advice you were given by "Two Listen". In order to draw well from imagination, you need to have an imagination which is well-primed by observation. At this point, you have an ideal opportunity to increase your skill-set by observational drawing and painting.
He found a formula for drawing comic rabbits;
This formula for drawing comic rabbits paid,
So in the end he could not change the tragic habits;
this formula for drawing comic rabits made....
...By robert Graves
December 12th, 2009, 01:59 PM
I disagree - to some extent - with the advice you were given by "Two Listen". In order to draw well from imagination, you need to have an imagination which is well-primed by observation. At this point, you have an ideal opportunity to increase your skill-set by observational drawing and painting.
I actually don't think we disagree at all. I merely emphasize that, in order to ensure you are actually learning from your studies, you have to be able to replicate them, utilize them. If you always need a reference, then are you really learning anything other than how to draw straight from reference?
Just as you said - you must FUEL your imagination with studies, by learning, retaining the information, not limit yourself with them. And the only way to see whether or not you're retaining that information, is if you try to use it outside of the study.
Drawing from imagination to see if you've learned from your studies is part of studying. It helps you discover what you're actually learning, and what you need to study more.
Raffix: Your heads are actually turning out pretty cool. They're not necessarily realistic, but they've got a recognizable personality to them which is always a good thing. Keep developing that style of yours, it's nice to see.
December 17th, 2009, 03:14 PM
eurgh been ill lately so no posting for a while :(
Thanks for the replies guys, i do love mixed messages lol :D just kidding
well i was looking at my last post and i think that my style there was really forced and not really mine, hence why they looked a bit rubbish.
*edit: these are from imagination btw*
so i've been experimenting with trying to draw in a looser way, and even if the results aren't great (you probably won't be able to see what all these next things are :P) it feels slightly more comfortable.
December 19th, 2009, 03:52 PM
You've caught loads of character in those last heads.
I sgree that the oils are laid on too thinly. Thin oils are more for an underpainting and sorting out the picture before committing yourself. Try doing one in blue or brown to get the drawing and values right, then you can slap the paint on with gusto.
December 27th, 2009, 04:52 PM
so this is more of me trying to draw from my head. i think i am getting slightly more confident and the results are improving.
still just front views of heads, not confident enough to be more ambitious :(
thank you for all replies!
December 30th, 2009, 03:22 AM
That's fun. You've got the features in the right places - eyes are a bit big, but they are caricatures.
January 2nd, 2010, 07:18 AM
i had a go at making a very short hand drawn animation. there's a glitch in the middle at some point but it was fun :)
January 2nd, 2010, 09:14 AM
very short hand drawn animation.
Nice! Animation's a great way of learning to put some dynamism into poses in paintings, too, so is well worth getting to grips with, even if you want to be an illustrator or painter rather than an animator.
January 2nd, 2010, 05:13 PM
dcorc - Thanks for the animation feedback, i really enjoyed it and will def. have another shot soon :)
well i finally have a relatively large update :D
it seems that i have been the only person on the forums to not have used posemaniacs before, but i discovered it this afternoon and these are my 60 second sketches:
January 8th, 2010, 06:58 AM
more random sketchbook pages....
January 8th, 2010, 07:07 AM
All I can say is, good going dude.
January 15th, 2010, 01:00 PM
i'm looking at 'people at work' for school atm so i did 15 minutes of sketching a friend playing the clarinet.
also we have a drawing of my hand on lined paper, as that was the only drawing surface available in a dulldulldull business studies lesson :)
thanks for any comments!
January 15th, 2010, 01:23 PM
good job boy, try more to render volume, and to have a 3d view.
Do also a lot of stuff from mind, it will help you to know what are your weaknesses
keep it up
January 16th, 2010, 03:47 PM
You've got weight on the animated figure and that's not always easy. And, you've actually made the posemaniac poses look like sketches of real people - great work. Keep experimenting and tucking away in your mind everything you gain.
January 16th, 2010, 05:57 PM
You´re very good for 16! Thumbs up!
A book that helped me a lot doing Life Drawing was Anthony Ryders "The Artist´s Complete Guide to Figure Drawing". Check it out!
January 16th, 2010, 11:58 PM
Keep up the good work! I suggest torrenting Richard Williams The Animators Survival Kit. There is also The Animators Survival Kit animated and I highly suggest that.
January 18th, 2010, 03:54 PM
Thanks for your replies, guys! :D
Some more random sketching from my head, nothing particularly impressive....
January 18th, 2010, 04:20 PM
hey buddy i think you are amazing!!im 16 too but your drawing is better than me:d
figures are realy nice,but in your faces skethces;i think eyes size have problem!;)
January 21st, 2010, 10:26 PM
Hey there. You have a great line quality. That hand up there reminds me of the inking style of Kubrick. As for the sketches, you have a good sense of movement and line. One thing I would mention, even (or most especially in gestures) is keep an eye on your proportions. That figure with the arms up is nice, but the arms are too long. Practice helps alot but if you keep practicing the same way, eventually you'll always draw arms the same length and when you draw them in proportion they'll seem wrong.
Nice stuff though. I'll have to keep coming back here to see what you have.
February 1st, 2010, 06:06 PM
Thanks for your replies guys!
Xlade - thats very nice of you to say, just one thing, who do you mean by kubrick? i googled him and just got the movie director xD
well i need to draw more, not impressed with this post
February 2nd, 2010, 02:34 AM
Sorry. I got the name wrong. Joe Kubert. Teach me to try and remember stuff :)
He had a very unique quality of linework.
February 9th, 2010, 03:38 PM
not too pleased with how the scanner picked up that last pencil piece oh wells
little sketches from today, not more than 20 seconds on the smaller ones so very rough
February 9th, 2010, 05:35 PM
your fast sketches are delicious dude i really liked'em. btw try to focus on following the form of what u working on when u shading, not just fill it. check vilppu's lessons if u didnt yet ;) also nice animaton :clap:
February 12th, 2010, 02:58 PM
It's always a pleasure to visit your SB.
On that last pencil face, don't smudge - it only ends up looking dirty. And don't knock the looser ones as sometimes they capture more life than careful studies do. The random sketches are great, they show you're thinking even if you think you're not.
February 12th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Black Spot - Thanks a lot :)
these next things really arent developed enough to be worth showing imo, but i'd like to keep posting regularly (ish) to keep up the momentum.
-sketch of a friend's hands holding his iphone, literally only about 15 seconds.
-drawing of a dude's head from a business studies video (hmm i seem to be doing far too much drawing in business studies lol) thought about drawing ppl from the tv after looking at weashell's amazing sketchbook :)
- and finally the beginnings of a study of Toulouse Lautrec's Moulin Rouge poster (i'm doing AS level art so lots of studies being done) looking forward to finishing it so check back!! thanks again for all comments.
February 14th, 2010, 10:49 AM
February 14th, 2010, 04:35 PM
really good dude... im 16 too...go on working :)
February 14th, 2010, 04:39 PM
The Toulouse should suit your looser style, just remember to keep it loose, but not to lose form.
February 14th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Thanks guys :)
well, finished the Toulouse Lautrec poster study....couldnt get the colours quite right and some proportion issues make it look a bit too busy, but overall im happy; should make a good school sketchbook page.
February 14th, 2010, 05:56 PM
hey m8 you are really good and as many other´s are saying you have a good eye for the human body! Keep it up m8 and you'll be working with art in just a few years I tell you! I wish I had started drawing at your age!!
February 15th, 2010, 05:22 PM
thanks a lot PaintMyBrain !
well i've benn trying to draw a lot more from my imagination as my sketchbok is mostly drawings from life, so a doodle after flicking through a fashion mag...
and i thought it could be fun to nake a kinda comic, so i just had some quick thoughts about characters ;)
February 15th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Hey Raffix just wanted to say that I really enjoyed looking through your SB. I think you're doing great and I'm looking forward to seeing more. :)
February 23rd, 2010, 05:06 PM
Good to see you mixing it up with the imaginative stuff.
I don't think that shirt is going to let her play the triangle very well though.
February 23rd, 2010, 05:37 PM
thanks a lot guys!!
im actually rather pleased with this page. head on the left is from life, right hand one id from a still from the rather awesome movie Red Dawn.
March 6th, 2010, 03:44 PM
I like working in biro too as it helps to concentrate the mind and you have to get it right. Pretty girl, the one from life - hope she liked it.
March 11th, 2010, 01:31 PM
ah a fourth page! :D
mmkay ive been doing lots more work for school so here goes:
- pencil sketch of a friend playing guitar
- watercolour of same guy (might gover over it in pen. thoughts?)
- pen sketch of my hand (another exciting business studies lesson)
- really like this last one, portait of my friend dj-ing made
from layered card.
March 11th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Well you're certainly better than I was when I was sixteen. I love your lines in your pen ink doodles - that scratchy style could evolve into something really interesting. It's evident you're still beginning, but it's also evident you've been working hard. Keep it up. :)
March 11th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Love your stuff, you seem to have a gift for faces and people.
I'm 15 at the moment, you're far better than me!
March 13th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Thanks Kyendo and JJ~ :)
been drawing animals, but from internet photo refs, not life unfortunately.
Dog, Gorilla, Chicken!!
March 13th, 2010, 06:47 PM
Dog gorilla chicken, a lethal combination! Great work!
March 20th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Have an avocado
March 26th, 2010, 12:24 AM
wonderfull work keep it up and you will be places in no time
draw in local cafes and out in the landscape as much as possible please :)
looking forward to much more !
March 28th, 2010, 03:50 PM
The avocado needs more work. It doesn't seem solid or sitting on the table quite right. Now you're going have to do them for the next couple of weeks to get it right. Never mind the Easter hols are coming up and I expect loads of work from you.
March 28th, 2010, 04:02 PM
the dog is so cute :P really beatiful
in general your strokes are too hard and visible
keep it up
April 2nd, 2010, 02:16 PM
No update = me sad. Come and give me your considered opinion on my animation - I'm not an animator by any stretch.
April 3rd, 2010, 01:48 PM
tried to squeeze some drawing into heavy AS level revision.
- 2 doodly pages (prety rubbish)
- a sketch from my head (yay :D ) of my friend (10 points for guessing his name)
- and my name in quirky stitching =)
April 3rd, 2010, 09:03 PM
You should try doing some blind contours of shoes. I think it would add a lot of confidence to your lines.
April 6th, 2010, 08:55 AM
more sketchies as they commmeee..
April 6th, 2010, 04:12 PM
A lot more confidence showing in your lines. What AS are you doing?
April 7th, 2010, 05:56 AM
Black Spot - Unfortunately on the art side of things I'm doing Fine Art. I would rather be doing a general Art and Design course because I think it would make building a Foundation portfolio easier, but I go to a very academic grammar school, so Fine Art is all that's available.
April 7th, 2010, 04:24 PM
April 7th, 2010, 04:44 PM
last one is pretty cool.
April 10th, 2010, 08:04 AM
Those cockerels are very good.
April 10th, 2010, 07:31 PM
16 years old eh? pretty good keep it up dawg you'll be on top notch
April 10th, 2010, 11:06 PM
Your sense of humour, I luvs it.
Also I'm 16 too, hooray for early ish starts
April 14th, 2010, 10:54 AM
already stuck this one of stoph in the 'Draw from "What do people look like Thread"' but I was quite pleased with it so here we go :)
April 14th, 2010, 05:45 PM
I like your version a lot. Dig those colours.
April 18th, 2010, 05:38 AM
April 20th, 2010, 02:10 PM
April 23rd, 2010, 11:01 PM
your stuff are absolutely beautiful! i like your style, keep it up
April 24th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I can see your school getting you to design all their posters at this rate.
April 24th, 2010, 04:17 PM
Love your style! Full of energy!
April 27th, 2010, 03:25 PM
thanks guys :)
this is my first digital piece wooo
not sure it really counts though. cheated a lot by using the magic wand. oh well. WIP as long as my short attention span doesnt get too distracted.
May 2nd, 2010, 11:49 AM
thought the dude's profile looked quite cool
May 2nd, 2010, 03:46 PM
Damn mate, sweet stuff.. You really developed an awesome style!
I do want to say that you should try to keep expanding your view in every direction. Explore a lot of different things! :)
Edit; you should update your thread image, you've got cool new stuff! :D
May 3rd, 2010, 06:04 AM
Love the experimentations. It's always good to explore new techniques and different ways of doing things, so later you can choose which direction you want to go in.
May 7th, 2010, 02:11 PM
revision is slowly killing my soullll...hardly done any drawing :(
from my head:
EDIT: guess who's got a fifth page! woooaahh
May 7th, 2010, 03:34 PM
You're experiment a lot! Looks all good!
I'm fiveteen, perhaps you would like to take a look in my sketchbook also? :D
May 15th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Even with the weird diamonds, you've got good depth and form to the figure. Just think, it's only a couple of months to the Summer Holidays.
May 20th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Your drawing style is really nice, structural with loose lines. I hope to see brilliant things from you. I know what you mean with the revision, my exams started on monday. Your watercolours are great. Good luck !
May 22nd, 2010, 06:42 AM
Thank you guys! and Black Spot, summer will be intennnsse!
ok this is a relatively large update for me. shows how little revision i have been doing....
edit: thought i should say that i completely ripped the harry potter idea off from Roxie Vizcarra
May 23rd, 2010, 11:40 AM
I like your Harry. I also wish the film version had someone a bit taller. Blue haired guy looks cool. Look forward to seeing you rock over Summer.
June 2nd, 2010, 03:34 AM
he's a seal
June 2nd, 2010, 09:44 AM
Ahhh I wish I could draw faces from imagination as well as you can atm ! -.-
I've got 7 exams left then i'm gonna kick your ass !!!
Keep the awesomeness up !!
June 9th, 2010, 08:05 PM
this is my final piece for art coursework. i think it might actually be the best thing i've ever done? saaafe x
June 9th, 2010, 11:59 PM
You have some interesting stuff here. I like your use of colors in some of your work. I hope to see more stuff from you :)
June 13th, 2010, 01:45 PM
A line is basically a minimalist definition of form.
So it's safe to conclude that a linedrawing/contour heavy drawing is a minimalist definition an intricate structure of form such as a face, a building or whatever is out in nature.
Easiest way to learn how to define form and how the true form of an object before you goes is by using crosshatching with a pencil to see how the form is sculpturally.
With paint, it would be by defining the angle/pressure/tilt/amount of pigment on the brush.
Since with paint it's more difficult, start with much, much more explorations of form in pencil(crosshatching) of objects that are relatively simple to understand form wise.
This is why people usually start with still lives, no matter how boring they can be :)
So take a cup, a mug, an egg, a bowl, a vase, a bottle, wooden cube.
Make a small composition, define the outer edges of your composition.
For example a rectangle, that holds all the elements of your composition.
Then see how much percent of the entire rectangle all the different elements(the bottle, the base, the cup) take up.
This gives you a rudimentary width and height for your objects.
Now compare what you have on your initial drawing with the objects in real life, do they feel wide enough, tall enough, is the neck of the bottle too tall? Too slender? Too.. bulky.
You try and complete the initial linedrawing by asking these questions over and over again, while trying to keep the initial percentages of the objects.
After you feel confident in the initial linedrawing, start adding mass by crosshatching what you think the form feels like as if you were placing your thumb ontop of the surface.
For the sake of convenience, think the following: surfaces of the object that come to the front are lighter, surfaces that go toward the back are darker.
This is called form lighting. It helps you think of form and only form.
So the first step handled proportion and composition, the second stage handles form and value.
Now if you practise this enough, and get a rudimentary handle on all these aspects, you can try going for more advanced subjects such as a human being and eventually try and add color to the series of problems :)
It is at this point, after you've familiarized yourself with the concepts of form, value,composition,(maybe add some perspective too eventually) and proportion that you can start going into detail.
Most people do this by studying anatomy, training their memory or explore in general what's beneath the surface/the components of the elements you're studying, it's texture, environmental conditions and so forth.
June 13th, 2010, 02:34 PM
That last picture is superb! Well done, keep experimenting, having fun and push yourself just that little bit more each time.
June 13th, 2010, 02:46 PM
It's weird how many of us teenagers are in here amongst the hardcore proffessionals. xD
I love your style, the pen works are great. Particularly love what you did with the Harry Potter chars, Ron's my fave there.
Keep up the good work! :D
June 13th, 2010, 05:05 PM
thanks for your replies guys.
Hyskoa - wow man seriously thanks a lot its people like you who make this site soo tight x
June 14th, 2010, 09:33 AM
Great job on your final piece I think it looks really good.
June 23rd, 2010, 10:04 PM
i think you should study gesture and form before getting into color, but it's just an opinion
June 25th, 2010, 10:23 AM
June 25th, 2010, 06:28 PM
hey man, digging these (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=982533&stc=1&d=1274524896) and all your other marker sketches bro :)
do some more studys, like life studys (still lifes, go to life drawing if you can) they help so good!
keep it up man, i'll be back again (:
June 28th, 2010, 01:11 AM
How kid you have already very good skills, you know I am 31years and I am
just learning how to draw.
My be you look at my stuff,... :^^:
June 28th, 2010, 01:57 AM
Sweet updates. This one (http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=982527&stc=1&d=1274524658) I particularly like.
June 29th, 2010, 01:26 PM
ignore the writing, im an idiot
July 6th, 2010, 12:15 PM
huh weird, last post i made disappeared.
first is the preliminary sketches for my school magazine illos, then two from imagination doodles.
July 6th, 2010, 12:44 PM
I think your moving toward Graphic Design with the designs, dynamic colors and use of letters. Awesome man :) Keep drawing and refine your marker and water color skills
July 6th, 2010, 01:46 PM
I'd wear those shoes. Progressing nicely.
July 11th, 2010, 01:33 AM
nice posts, not only can u draw well but they're really funny. "he's a seal" made me lol
July 11th, 2010, 01:58 AM
I love how fun all the stuff you put up here is. Nice work on the hair for your coursework piece too!
PS: Econs student?
July 14th, 2010, 12:24 PM
nice colour experiences raffix :D keep posting! ur about to achieve very good line quality :thumbsup:
July 15th, 2010, 10:59 AM
krysjez - do you mean economics student? no i'm not, i'm not really sure what would've given you that idea (: !
you may have noticed that i'm now 17 :D
July 17th, 2010, 04:38 AM
Good stuff, though i think that you should start doing some anatomy studies in supplement to the stuff your already doing, keep it up!
July 17th, 2010, 09:09 AM
I agree with Exon-Ion; keep up the work though and don't stop doing the stuff you enjoy :) the graphic design element is really neat.
Tutor2u is what I use for Economics readings sometimes, so that just came to mind.
July 22nd, 2010, 04:38 AM
nice stuff, you have potential. on you it wasnd difficult to recognize that youre english :D
i like the more cooler harry potter character designs very much
July 23rd, 2010, 10:07 AM
two sketchbook pages (from life) and the finished rugby illo for my school magazine. i really dont like it
July 23rd, 2010, 04:59 PM
I don't think the illustration for your school mag is that bad, actually I quite like it because it has an old fashioned quality about it.
Now you're 17, does that mean you're about to become a menace on the roads?
No more school means draw, draw, draw. Gosh I miss that freedom. Make the most of it, but do other things as well.
July 23rd, 2010, 09:58 PM
Hey Raffix. :) It's always cool to see someone the same age on the forums. The running guy looks quite nice. I can feel the movement in his clothes. Anyway, keep up the studies and always keep experimenting! I like the illustrations with type in the previous page. Looks like you're having fun :)
July 29th, 2010, 01:00 PM
skitchbook doodads oh and anatomy studies at last
July 30th, 2010, 12:38 PM
the story behind the bottom two is that a lovely local artist gave me a water colour lesson today which led to these two rubbishy things
August 1st, 2010, 04:38 PM
Watercolours are tough to master. Might try myself again one of these days.
August 3rd, 2010, 10:24 AM
Seems like we've both hit the big 17 too, so grats on that!
You've definitely got an interesting style developing, and in a typical concept-art style I'm still going to tell you to spam the studies (I find those last landscape ones interesting, *hint hint*) and to keep up the good work!
August 3rd, 2010, 11:14 AM
Hey man, great sketchbook. Love the studies, keep them coming! Watercolors are really nice too, especially the cloud one.
August 3rd, 2010, 11:45 AM
Naidy - always to to hear from ya - check yo sketchbook
Lang Oulk - thanks a lot man, your stuff is looking ace, i'll pop in for a proper look and comment later tonight
ok well i have decided that this is a sort of milestone in my sketchbook because from here on over the summer i am working on my portfolio for Art Foundation (pre university 1 year course) and so i am going to establish some resolutions to keep me motivated etc.
1. Draw EVERY day and update my sketchbook every 2-3 days
2. Respond to every comment here with a visit to the commenter's sketchbook and as good a crit as I can give.
3. Find some life drawing sessions during the summer and get as much out of those as i can.
there are probably some other things i should be doing so i'll update this list. i think i'll give my sketchbook a funky new name as well.
ok then, first off is this, done from my head apart from a little bit of self-referencing for the hand.
August 5th, 2010, 06:52 AM
August 5th, 2010, 01:26 PM
They're some pretty good resolutions you have there. :D
-And I'm loving the 3D glasses.
But anyways, Good luck! (and prepare to be hassled if you don't keep to your goals ahaha xD)
August 6th, 2010, 10:02 AM
sp in da mirror
August 6th, 2010, 04:04 PM
Ah, your styles comming along nicely, sp's looks great. I can see pencil strokes in some places but are these direct pen sketches?
Nice glasses you have.
August 12th, 2010, 08:55 AM
Thanks man (:
i might have got myself a comission for a band's album cover. should be fun (: here's draft 1
August 13th, 2010, 01:03 PM
^ believe it or not that is supposed to be a hay bale
August 15th, 2010, 11:29 AM
Nice landscape regardless of the left hay bale. I really like the way you've done the contours of the land.
Congrats on your commission.
August 15th, 2010, 07:41 PM
Yay good goals to do. I try drawing everyday. It's hard, so good luck to you as well.
Hope to see some more. I would recommend using anatomy books to help with your figures along with the life drawing classes.
August 20th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Oi you, I haven't seen you uploading things for a while-Don't make me quote your resolutions on post 161! >;D
August 20th, 2010, 10:24 AM
i love how you experiment with different drawing styles and how you incorporate the colours keep up the hard work
August 20th, 2010, 12:00 PM
Hey dude! You have some great work happening in here, especially in your copious portraits! I especially like the one in post #130, and the drawing in #142 (which I also found quite amusing! ;)). Your last few, like the SP and the one in post #162, are especially well done! Keep up the good work! :rocker:
August 20th, 2010, 09:55 PM
Wow dude. You inspire me lol. I'm also 17 years old and I wish i had that skill that you hold! i can only draw funny little cartoon characters, but even theyre not that all great. I start college next week and hopefly i learn alot from it. Any advice you can give me about starting off my goal??
August 23rd, 2010, 01:22 PM
yeah i am like the worst person at keeping to promises.
Vital killz - haha thanks man erm im not really good enough to give any advice, i guess all id say is draw loads (so like 4 times as much as me) and just do your own thing.
this is a shit update. all from life. i only like the profile on the first page.
August 23rd, 2010, 02:15 PM
Loving the pencil works, and don't be too hard on yourself. Atleast you're going out there and doing life studies. xD
August 23rd, 2010, 02:29 PM
Your pencils/inks/whatever is awesome. Keep your focus and do the stuff that is required for you to reach the stuff you aim for and it'll all be good I promise. If there's something I've learned from watching all the dope artists on this forum and other forums like this is that hard work pays off more than one can ever imagine. Sorry, I have nothing really constructive to say about your art. I think you are on the right track, so just keep doing what you're doing!
August 23rd, 2010, 02:33 PM
Nicely said, alexson - I agree. My favorites are the face studies with fine-liner. Very pretty and secure.
August 25th, 2010, 03:59 AM
The land in the foreground of the wc landscape looks really nice. Congratulations on the commission too - though I can't really tell what the figure's hand (near the sleeve) is supposed to be doing.
August 25th, 2010, 04:00 AM
Great work. you capture likeness with few lines. much better then myself at 17. keep it up!
August 25th, 2010, 10:24 AM
from life apart from the first one which is from these cool black and white photographs of workers in the 50s i found
August 27th, 2010, 08:48 AM
wip of a water colour portrait. my art teacher thought it would be a good idea to do the face in watercolour then my glasses in acrylic. not too happy with how that idea is panning out
August 27th, 2010, 09:01 AM
Hullo again, gratz on getting to seven pages :D
I like how the last post's going so far.
Think the acrylic specs are a good idea but If you feel the glassess are overwhelming the face, perhaps you can paint the watercolours more vividly around the eyes. What ever you think might work.
Or maybe just have part of the specs done in acrylics?
Oh I don't know, I'm rambling here.
August 28th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Hey Raffix you are doing great and progressing so quickly. I really like this last portrait and I'm interested to see how it turns out.
August 28th, 2010, 09:00 PM
great variety of stuff going on here; some of the pen work is very neat, as is the watercolour - great balance and I am loving the striking glasses. You are really progressing and that is very important, so keep going,
August 29th, 2010, 07:46 AM
Thank you guys!
Naidy - hahah that is a bit rambly (: i think you're right about the eyes, i will concentrate on them then leave some of the skin tones as they are i think.
Marian - thanks for coming by again, i posted again in your sb.
Jansi - hi thanks for checking out my sketchbook, i will definitely keep goiing! posted in your sb.
this was just a little sketch while my mum was watching some shitty marilyn manroe film but i kinda like it. ball point pen, 30 mins.
August 29th, 2010, 07:51 AM
nice sb so far. like the one u did for ur schoolmag. keep it up m8 :)
August 29th, 2010, 10:47 AM
Yo this sketchbook is rad!
August 29th, 2010, 10:58 AM
Slick work, keep it up!
August 29th, 2010, 01:06 PM
Eric-Anthony, Yeti Ball, Falchion: Thanks a lot guys, really appreciate the encouragement (:
These two pages are definitely vital studies that the world needs to see. They are not in any way just an excuse to reply... (:
August 29th, 2010, 01:40 PM
I like the self portrait - nice colours. With that and your mother's portrait, mind the position of the eyes' they seem to be drifting apart.
August 29th, 2010, 02:00 PM
I've noticed you're working harder to render people's faces (I should stop trying to use art terminoligy because I've probably said something completely different to my intentions) Her face seems to pop out! Really good that and oddly enough the nose is my favourate part of it.
You remind me cross hatching is a really fun way to shade, I don't know why I don't do it more often myself.
Also, see you've posted more anatomy studies, always good.
Keep up the good work!
August 29th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Hey raffix, the watercolors are nice! Definitely finish that self p at the top of the page. It looks promising, especially with the color shifts and mixed media thing you got going on. And even if you don't like how its turning out you can always go over the wc parts with acrylic or gouache. :)
August 30th, 2010, 11:29 AM
again very small update. want to get into acrylics then possibly digital so ill be doing some value studies over the next few weeks
Black Spot - thanks for a very helpful crit - i couldnt work out why the face looked so off but it is indeed the eye on the right drifting too far. more bridgman/loomis studies i hope will help fix this.
Naidy - hahah actually lold at that first bit (:
Eddieee - thanks man i think ill try out some gouache soon. ill pop in to your sb in a sec.
August 30th, 2010, 11:52 AM
Hey dude, very nice and inspirational sketchbook, not much to comment here, maybe on your last SP, it could use a bit more darks on the shadow side, but I guess you'll get there, since it's a wip...
Anyways, keep up the great work.. we want to see MOAR!
August 30th, 2010, 12:53 PM
I like how you're using different mediums and doing lots of anatomy studies, it's bound to help you improve quickly. :D
All I can suggest is to keep on doing these studies, maybe some more finished full-body pics would be nice using paint, but that's all I can really suggest. :) Keep on practising like you are!
August 31st, 2010, 12:34 PM
Hey Raffix really like your value study on the corrugated cardboard. Very effective and looks good. Who 'nose' what you'll come up with next! :)
September 1st, 2010, 08:14 AM
fernandoart: thanks a lot man. inspirational is quite a compliment! i popped by your sb, hope i was some help.
Marian Rowling: ohhh dear... (:
this is the self portrait from earlier. its still a wip but im seriously pleased with how its going
and a close up
September 1st, 2010, 08:28 AM
I'm loving that watercolour, seriously.
Brilliant usage for colours going on and it's coming together quite well(them eyes are looking awesome)!
Can't wait to see it finished, also, be careful not to overwork watercolours. :P
September 1st, 2010, 09:00 AM
Amazing update on your watercolors sp! Just a question though.. is it just me or you ear is a bit lower then it should be? It just looks a bit out of place to me.. but maybe it's just me...
Can't wait to see this one finished!
September 1st, 2010, 10:21 AM
Lovely, lovely work on your watercolour! Watercolour makes me want to bash my head into a wall. :P I go too fast and mush it all up. There's not too much you can do about it at this point, but your eyes aren't quite level. I also agree the ear doesn't quite look placed right. Last tiny crit is to watch the values around your jaw- they're fading into each other right now.
Anywho, keep at those studies and you're off to the races! :sungod:
September 1st, 2010, 10:30 AM
I wish I was as serious as you are when I was 17.. jesus..
Super nice portrait.
September 2nd, 2010, 12:08 PM
fernandoart: yeah i think the ear is a bit low. maybe a bit small as well
Pixie Trick: thanks for the crit
Loathsome: thanks a lot man
this is a bit of a cheeky bump. on the other hand, i thought everyone needed to see the panda
September 2nd, 2010, 04:08 PM
i love what yo have done with values , the noise drawing is so realistic .
September 2nd, 2010, 04:23 PM
Hey Raffix the self portrait looks great. You're right to be pleased with yourself as you are handling it beautifully. I think it really shows what potential you have. Well done.
September 3rd, 2010, 06:37 AM
love the #197 one! nice sb...
September 3rd, 2010, 06:45 AM
woow ur watercolors portrait is amazing
September 3rd, 2010, 12:48 PM
all i got done today. back at school which sucks
September 3rd, 2010, 01:40 PM
for 17 , u r doing great
keeep it up ,^^
September 4th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Really great stuff you have going in here! I have to say I'm impressed by your diligence and skill. I'm kind of excited that you're doing grey scale acrylic studies because that's primarily how I paint.
Keep up the good work! You're on the right track
September 6th, 2010, 11:13 AM
The SP is coming on very well. Be careful of overdoing the yellow.
September 6th, 2010, 12:10 PM
Brahimpag - thanks man, i've dropped by your sketchbook
NickTrip - thanks a lot dude
Black Spot - cheers, its becoming a bit green ):
ive been doing some value studies from life this weekend which i know are very flawed but i think they'll be good learning tools
i really struggled to read the values of the cast shadows so if anyone has any tips/links to help that would be great
smaller versions because i think the form is more readable when i stand far away from them
September 6th, 2010, 12:12 PM
really nice painting keep up the good work
September 6th, 2010, 12:14 PM
September 7th, 2010, 11:07 AM
ok this was my first real attempt at digital. value study of a head from imagination i guess.
obviously its pretty shit as its feels like learning to draw/paint all over agin
September 7th, 2010, 11:26 AM
Some lovely studies going on here, and regardless of what anyone says they are the BACKBONE to any good artist. Understanding shape, value, color etc etc is the most important part of any artists skill set. Transferring that knowledge form analog to digital is a whole different monster and just takes time. I found some of Jason Chan's massive black video downloads incredibly useful for making that adjustment but beyond that it just takes time and experience with the medium just like any other.
Keep up the good work!
September 7th, 2010, 02:48 PM
just practice , you are in the correct way , try more life drawing . you are doing very good job.
September 11th, 2010, 04:43 PM
I can't think in black, white and grey; it goes against my psyche. Maybe you're the same as you have a good grasp of colour. You can always convert it to greyscale to check if the values work, which is what I do. The only greyscale stiff I do is with pencil, which is odd. Each to their own. Now I have seen a thread about cast shadows and if I find it I'll post the link. From memory a lot of it was perspective and consideration of bounced light.
September 11th, 2010, 05:02 PM
I'm impressed by your effort and skill. Your self-portrait in watercolor or all your watercolor paintings in general are very professional looking.
Push it further, sir!
September 13th, 2010, 12:45 PM
Auspicious Panda : thanks a lot man ill check those out
Black Spot: that sounds perfect. if you stumble across it again i would love to see it
well i hvae really failed at updating this as regurlarly as i said. bad photo of a pencil study of a jonathon yeo painting.
September 13th, 2010, 01:02 PM
Nice studies, man! Your pencil work is really getting good! Keep it up!
September 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Nice to see other artists my age struggling to get better. nice work there, especially like that last drawing.
my best of luck to you ;) keep drawing and posting!
September 15th, 2010, 11:24 AM
another value study from life. i like this one
September 15th, 2010, 11:54 AM
The sense of value looks good and the highlights look well-placed. Try to pay special attention to your ellipses though; in cylindrical objects, the ellipses define the perspective and the symmetry of the object. Flipping the image (if working digitally) or holding your image up to a mirror (if working traditionally) can usually alert you to symmetry issues early on so they can be identified and corrected.
September 17th, 2010, 11:24 AM
dierat - thanks a lot, thats the first really good crit ive had in awhile. thats a goood tip with the mirror ill make sure to use it
life sketch im not too keen on
value study of my own face i did in a mirror
September 19th, 2010, 03:56 PM
Raff, my boi!
I'd quite like to see the red haired girl finished, It'd be nice to seem some more coloured works soon, but I know how important value studies are so I won't hassle you. xD
Anyways, you're getting better all the time so just keep it up. :D
September 21st, 2010, 05:26 PM
Naidy - thanks, i'll head over to your sb in a sec
evening update because the alternative is doing homework. light's not great but here is a pen drawing reffed from characterdeign.com.
because thats the only thing i have to show i thought id show my work area, where you can see some of my old work and a still life wip thats going fucking hideously because cast shadows still confuse me so much
September 21st, 2010, 10:56 PM
Hey dude, nice shading on the girl picture...
As for your WIP, the shadow IS looking weird, but it all depends where your light source is located, from what we can see of the drawing so far, the light source should be located in front of your subject and pointing from below.. am I right?
Keep going, you're doing great!
September 22nd, 2010, 04:09 AM
Work further back from the still life. Maybe place it in the corner of your desk that way you'll have more room to look at the set-up and see the overall composition better. The two walls could create some interesting shadows too.
If you can afford it (and assuming you dont have one), buy yourself a easel. damn it makes things so much easier. I was working on a desk for about 1.5 years before i purchased one.
Overall nice work. good to see someone wokring traditional.
September 22nd, 2010, 04:27 AM
Hey, nice sb.
Just a few tips if you're interested:
1) While giving yourself a time limit can boost your progress it can also really become a problem. One thing that took me far too long to figure out (why I never got any good) was that painting takes time and patience is everything. So don't expect to rule the world in five monts.
2) A quick note on values: It's really helpful to try to find a core shadow – that is, trying to think of the image as having a light shapes and shadow shapes, positive and negative space. It makes it much easier to read. Instead of using five different values –start with two and then find variations within them. Check out some Bargue drawings, you'll see what I mean.
September 22nd, 2010, 05:18 AM
wow thanks a lot for the replies guys.
Monsieur - thanks for that man. i don't entirely understand what you're saying about finding a core shadow though?
a_mckeown - thanks for the tips, i'll keep them in mind for the next one. i can't really afford an easel atm but it'll be the next thing to get (:
fernandoart -thanks for coming by again man. i took a photo of the composition from my viewpoint. this photo makes the painting look even worse in comparison. the cast shadow value is wayyy too dark. eurgh
September 22nd, 2010, 06:04 AM
i don't entirely understand what you're saying about finding a core shadow though?http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CKHEK3fLVDo/TC4mVBew5WI/AAAAAAAABKo/ZSRkVlmzILY/s640/elements-of-Light2A.jpg
The above image illustrates the core shadow. For your cast shadow problem, why not lay a low-opacity layer of paint the color of the wall over the shadow to lighten it and blend it into the bg better? (Are you using acrylics with transparent medium?) Also, I think it would be helpful if you tried building up the whole painting together rather than focusing on the cast shadow and trying to get that perfect first. It will be harder to get the cast shadow to be the right value when you can't use the rest of the values in the image for comparison.
September 22nd, 2010, 06:45 AM
I took the liberty of overpainting one of your own drawings in order to explain this. I have no idea how the original photo looks so I just took a shot. The Idea is to separate the image into light and dark and the rule of thumb is that NOTHING in the light area can be darker than ANYTHING in the dark area. This is not just a way to simplify painting, it is the way our eyes work, and it really helps us reading the image.
Your original image is actually very good. It shows some real knowledge of facial anatomy, and the linework is very confident. But the values are all over the place. They hardly do the drawing any good. In your original, look at the speck of shade on his forhead top left. No doubt you saw a shift in value there, but no way it is going to be that dark compared to the right side of the face.
In my overpainting I have clearly defined a dark area – and immedialtely the drawing makes a lot more sense. The face pops. It has, mind you, nothing to do with HOW dark the value is, only that its darker. You can make the light area 50% gray and the dark area 60% gray. The painting will still pop, provided that you follow the rule of thumb above.
Check this video out, and really listen to what the guy says. It's very helpful:
Also look at this for further inspiration:
Hope that helps!
September 22nd, 2010, 07:06 AM
dierat and Monsieur - thanks so much guys its awesome to be getting really detailed crits finally.
Monsieur - thanks a lot for the overpaint. it is actually a study of a painting by Jonathon Yeo, who uses quite a rough sculptural style. Below is the only image i could find of it.
i did the whole thing with a B pencil so the values are all a bit off and as always i was way too impatient. Thanks a lot for the links as well. I'll come by your sketchbook although im clearly not in a position to tell you how to di it (:
September 22nd, 2010, 07:20 AM
You're welcome. You really don't have to come by my sb. It hasn't been updated in over a year and it sux ass.
September 22nd, 2010, 07:39 AM
Just to prove my point i applied a threshold effect to the painting in photoshop, and though the values are close and the colors may be confusing, you can clearly see that even in this case that the values on the left hand side are not as dark as the ones on the right.
I'll bug off now.
September 22nd, 2010, 07:52 AM
Monsieur & dierat - you're both legends. Although your posts are aimed at Raffix, they are sure to help others too.
September 22nd, 2010, 02:48 PM
Dude, you do freakin awesome stuff with watercolor, i'd suggest you to stick with it and practice every day like a maniac with watercolor, i bet you can do kickass pics for portfolio with it, but i dont know if your art school will want gouache also, just talking from my own experience.
Also, I hope you will find these helpful, Sargent works (in case you haven't seen them) and Erik Tiemens blog.
Sargent has some stunning watercolor works there.
Btw, nice CA signature, caughts attention.
September 22nd, 2010, 03:12 PM
Do you paint at the same time? The light through the curtains can change the cast shadow a lot - I was having that problem a few weeks ago.
Sorry I haven't found that thread yet - I'll keep looking.
September 23rd, 2010, 12:07 PM
heix33 - thanks a lot for the encouraging words and the links man!
Black Spot - i actually did hat one in the evening so it wasnt in natural light
its a bit lame to update with one thing especially as its small, but here is todays life sketch
September 24th, 2010, 08:47 AM
i did a quick watercolour of my still life because i thought it might help me get a grip on colours but i then remember3ed that the light is completely different. oh well i quite like even though it was a bit of a weird approach and on normal sketchbook paper
then some pen drawings of paint tubes. not very exciting:
September 25th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Aha! I see you're pushing your contrasts more. :D Interesting mark making too on the tubes.
Reminds me I need to do some more experimenting in that field. :/
Again I have nothing constructive to say so I look forward to your next updates!
September 25th, 2010, 12:20 PM
September 26th, 2010, 01:36 PM
Naidy - merci
huckmedi - short and sweet. thanks dude ;)
well everyone else seems to do digital painting so i thought id start trying to learn. this is my first attempt at something from life and it happened to be a sp. started off as a doodle. pretty messy .
September 26th, 2010, 01:39 PM
I like it!
Think a wee highlight on the eyes might make them pop out a bit, but it looks good so far (Specially considering you usually use traditional mediums)
Keep up the good work as alwaaaayyys.
September 26th, 2010, 04:12 PM
You got the cast shadow on the tubes okay. Digital painting is like traditional, but sort of different. Sounds weird, but what you learn in one, you can take into the other as long as you don't use too many "digital tricks".
September 27th, 2010, 03:05 PM
got frustrated with this and gave up. contrasts too low and just generally messy. digital painting has been rea;;y fun though so ill keep on trying
the right eye is horribly shit
September 28th, 2010, 02:39 PM
last post didnt bump the thread grrrr
September 28th, 2010, 02:48 PM
Good work on your traditional paintings dude!
Also like your pen drawing with the tubes! :)
Keep it up, you're doing great!
September 28th, 2010, 03:11 PM
Keep it up! nice work.
A tip would be start off with 3 values. A mid-tone a light and a shadow tone. Define The form so it looks correct and 3 dimensional. After that you can add perhaps 2 more values and it will surely look great. you know, to restrain yourself. Try it and show me how it goes ;)
September 28th, 2010, 03:24 PM
yay I'm 17 too :) awesome stuff, and it looks like you're learning all the technical stuff so you'll definitely improve, keep it up yeah?
September 29th, 2010, 10:34 AM
Silwynar - thanks a lot
Wr00m - thanks man yeah i need to concentrate on form before details i think
Roboko - thanks man
some more digital practice - painting of the lamp on my desk. i kinda felt like i was cheating using the soft edged brush for the highlights so i think ill stick with the default hard edged brush
September 29th, 2010, 08:09 PM
thought i might stick this up before i go to bed. w.i.p for digital sp number 3. taking a different approach.
i feel like im getting more comfortable drawing digitally which is nice
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