Teen artist trying to get a little better every day. Oct 26

[Alternative]

New, better stuff in the last page :)

Hi all! I would like to re-introduce myself to CA (I havent posted in over a year.)
My name is Alberto, I am 16 years old and from Brazil. I started to get into art a long time ago and I really love it.

I have no high expectations, but all I want is to get better and have fun. Please help me in this quest! If something sucks please tell me. I dont get offended easily, so no worries.


I had an old sketchbook, so these are the OLDD stuff from it.

SORRY FOR THE LOW QUALITY SCANNING!

From oldest to newest.

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Next post... My new sketchbook.

[Alternative]

These are from my new sketchbook. I started it not so long ago. Critique and comments are greatly appreaciated!!!

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[conti]

Hey Alternative, I like your use of reference, that's always a great tool to use when you're starting off. One thing I would suggest with your poses is breaking them down into simple shapes. It'll bring more form to your poses. Keep it up! :)

[Dono]

I really enjoyed your later poses and hang gestures. It seems that you're doing well with shading as well. I wish I could give to some critique, but you're far beyond my skill. :P I'll have to keep a watch out for this thread, as I enjoy your work.

[Alternative]

Thanks everyone for the first comments. I really apreciate it! :)

Conti - Thankss! I will try to do that. But what do you mean exactly by simple shapes?

Dono - All that matters is that you took your time to leave me a little message. Thanks a lot! Come back whenever you want :)

[danlambert]

First of all there's a very obvious improvement from the stuff from your old sketchbook and the newer stuff. I noticed your line confidence in particular seems to have improved dramatically.
Other than that I'd just say keep it up, I think I saw some posemaniacs studies in there, so keep at those, and those drawing without looking at the page exercises are equally invaluable and will improve your hand eye co-ordination with time.
You seem to pretty to have all the boxes checked, maybe try a few drawings from imagination? More from life (so important!!) Also maybe try doing a few longer drawings, and take the time to really push the values and the forms (and possibly your patience) as far as you can. Some of your images don't seem to have the depth they could have if you spent the time to render out the forms properly as oppose to just washing some soft pencil over them. I would suggest maybe ditching the soft pencils all together and just sticking with an HB or 2B for a while. This will encourage you to spend time on your rendering as you will have to work an area more thoroughly to achieve darker values.
But anyway I'm just rambling now, keep up the good work your doing, maybe try not to take a year off again:wink: and keep posting up your stuff. If for no other reason than it will allow you to track your progression.
Peace!

[Alternative]

Thank you for your thoughful comment Danlambert. I will try to use harder pencils and see if that helps me. I thought that I had to use softer pencils to so I could go darker, I never thought about what you just said. Thanks a lot for that, I will definately try it.
I also need to draw more from imagination, I know, but I am just terrible at it. I need to study more, I guess.

Haha. I won't take another year off :)

[conti]

Sorry I don't articulate words too well, but by Simple shapes I mean breaking the form down into shapes. Meaning for the head use like an oval, and for the torso use an upside-down triangle and things like that.

[rolandb]

About the pencils: Your best bet is to try everything! One thing that might be especially helpful for you is to try using charcoal sticks. They make a really smooth, big mark, but it's very difficult to get a sharp, clean line with them. You should try some experimental drawings where you only draw the light and shadow, without any outlines at all. That will really help you see volume instead of contour. You have a tendency to outline everything, which can often make a drawing look flat. But that's getting better in your later sketches.
In your drawings from the live model, always draw the hands and face. Never leave a blob there. It doesn't matter if the hands and face look like crap every time. It's important to see the figure as a whole entity.
You are definitely going about things the right way. Study lots of anatomy, and draw from life all the time. Drawing from nature will always be your best teacher.

[Alternative]

Conti - Ohh okay. Thanks, I will try to do that later today if I dont fall asleep. It's like 2 in the morning here :(
rolandb - Thank you very much. I will try to do so. Thanks for leaving such great advice. I usually have a lot of trouble with hands. I need to get better.


So I've always wanted to experiment with two first. Digital Painting and Watercolor.

First I tried to digipaint. I haven't attempted to do it in a while, because last time I did it was total failure. The first sketch is supposed to be a sailor kissing a zombie lady. I really wanna be able to color it.

Then I tried watercolor for the first time (Without counting art class in like 4th grade)
I loved it! I am having so much fun. I only started, so I just played around and tried different things out.

[SaiVix]

Hey great studies so far. I have that same Andy Loomis book. Its awesome. I have only recently digested all of it and started to sketch out some works.

Keep doing this. You are definitely on your way to greatness. How often are you drawing lately? It looks like you are improving pretty drastically. I can tell with your tone study.

I would love to see more anatomy though.

[monstertree]

Thanks for stopping by my SB! Looks like you're hitting the studies hard, the best (possibly only) way to improve! Keep going and going, drawing from life and the anatomy books and adding to your mental library - can't go wrong that way in my opinion :)

[Leo Snow]

nice begining, mate :) you can improve your own skills very simple: paint more from nature, live sketches, studies, etc. :) just wish you luck with that :)

[Alternative]

Hey all, I am back. I didn't post for a while cause I was busy with some personal stuff. But now I got exactly 30 days until I travel again. My goal is to post at least 1 page everyday. Let's see how that goes :)



SaiVix - Thanks alot for those kind words. I haven't been drawing as much as I wished I did. I know i've improved, but I feel like I could be much better. I need to get that pencil and start working. :) And YES. Anatomy is on it's way. This is the first anatomy study I've done in a while.

Monstertree- Anytime mate. Thanks for stopping by too!

Leo Snow - Thank you, Sir! I will do these things :yum: ( I am hungry :( )



So these are the ones I did last night. I did some timed posemaniacs but it was so bad. For some reason I felt like I couldn't draw. I just scribbled some poses.
I just started studying from Bridgman. I am going to enter the Realm of Loomis soon too :)

[danlambert]

Looking good man, keep it up!

[Alternative]

Why thank you, mister :)


So I missed drawing from imagination just for the pure fun it is. Not to get better or with any worries.
Here is what I did today so far.


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb124/RdSigs/SCAN0029.jpg
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[Masayasu]

Hey Alternative. Thank you for stopping by my SB. Well, after looking at what you have done so far, I really don't want to offer any advice that might corrupt what you are currently working on. I think that anatomy studies are looking like they are coming along well, and if there is any one piece of advice that anyone could give, it would be to continue what you started.

However, some important keys to a good character, in my book, are in the characters facial expresion (especially the eyes), and then the pose and especially the props. Nothing beats a character with good props. Well, I hope that helps a little. I am sure that a lot of these guys will load you up with good advice to keep you on the right path. I am trying to head there my self. Take care.

[SaintLConcept]

say again ...ur 16? umm,, do u draw directly the pose or do u use help lines like the simple skel thing,. if u draw directly, i suggest u to use help lines first because for me it helps alot to get the right pose, although i still sometimes get it wrong even with the help lines..but got to say u draw better than me when i was 16 *darn suddenly feels old* , keep posting! u got all the masters of all kinds here^^

[SaintLConcept]

confused where to reply u lol, i'm 24 =='

[nurraymjo]

Excellent looking studies. Hands are some of the toughest things in the world to draw for me and you seem to have those down very well. Your SB is looking great. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing some of your finished work posted. I'll be checkin' back.

[Artalus]

Hands are one of the hardest things to do ,but your hand studies are really amazing much better then a lot of other people includeing myself. Anyways I like the design of the barbarian dude but his lower left arm the part with the shield straps around it looks the same size of the his upper arm which makes it look kinda weird.

By the way thank you so much for checking out my sketchbook and being the first one to post a comment :)

[danlambert]

I remember the good ol' days when you could draw from imagination and not worry about it, good times, good times......
That last guy is looking great, are you going to finish him? It would be awesome to see him shaded or painted

[Rotor]

Hey man, thanks for stopping by my SB!
Looking good here, lots of studies and stuff, never forget to draw from imagination and simply have fun with something you enjoy. :)
On the last guy and a tip in general, always try to have the 3D shape and form of things you draw in your mind, it is easier to render stuff then.
The last guy looks good and the idea is there, it's just that it looks rather flat now. Think how the clothes and gear will contort with the shapes of his body to add depth and form to the piece. I'd say, for 16 years old, you are doing great. :) Keep the stuff coming. And study! :D

[papervampire]

hey awesome work! you're doing exactly the right thing... getting better and having fun! hehe I should try that. keep it up!

[zou]

nice improvement !

you should do selfportraits.
Jason manley also told me to have one year drawing from nature THEN from imagination.
You should concentrate on drawing from nature (models,still life, photos ...)

keep it, you're on the right track

[Billy Wimblett]

Hey thanks for stopping by my sketchbook! :)

From what I can see here it's clear that you are improving; those hand studies are great in particular. I would say continue with the studies, and try to think about the forms in 3D in your head as you do them just to build your understanding of WHAT you're actually drawing. If you want to draw from imagination I would recomend trying to understand what is actually going on in front of you, so that when there is nothing to draw from you can still put pencil to paper confidently.

For example, someone could do an awesome drawing of a person in some crazy position, but if they don't understand anatomy, foreshortening, lighting etc they wont be able to draw their own characters. If that person then went and did another great drawing of a complex building, they would have problems doing their own building design because they don't know perspective.

Its important that you continue to focus on the studies and life drawings at this stage, but in addition I would highly recommend digging deeper into your subject matter; learn about anatomy, lighting, perspective etc and it will help you greatly.

Good luck!

[Alternative]

nurraymjo - Thanks a lot! :)

Artalus - No problem. Thank YOU for droping by mine :)

danlambert - Ugh I am not sure If I will.. I dont have the skills to paint it. And I really don't have the guts to shade it hah. Maybe some other time. Thanks for droping by again :) Always love hearing what you have to say.

Rotor - Thanks mate! I am trying to work with values now. You can see this in some of my next studies. I am not saying they are any good, but I am trying!

papervampire - Thanks!!

zou - thanks for the advice, mate. I will start doing portraits soon! And about imagination.. I know, i know, but imagination is fun when I am bored hah :)

Billy Wimblett - Thanks a lot for the advice. Very insightful. It helped me a lot on these next few studies. I am trying to UNDERSTAND things better now! Thank you very much sir! =)


I have a friend visiting from another country and I am housing him for a month. So I haven't had much time to draw. Plus, I was working on a drawing for my girlfriend. Unfortunately, I didn't have the brains to scan it for some CC. =( I need to catch up on these last 2 weeks!

Anyways, I am focusing more on form and values, rather than simply leaving my stuff at line work. My rendering seems to be improving somewhat, but I am not too sure!! I've been working on watercolor, such a tricky medium =(

Let me know what you guys think! Thanks in advanced!!

[danlambert]

More good stuff man, those heads are looking expressive, and I really like that eagle; watercolour is such a bitch work with but you seem to be picking it up no problem!
With the heads try to think of them in terms of planes, blocking in the tones first. Another thing you can do although it takes more time is to cover the whole area with value, as nothing on the face will usually ever be paper white.
I really like the drawing of the guy playing the flute, although I think you could focus on getting the darkest darks darker (ha!) to really make it pop.
Those quick drapery studies are a great exercise and will really help you when you come to draw clothes and things. I think you could try to concentrate more on your strokes and angles though. (I realise that my strokes suck but I can be a hipocrite if I want!) Try to make longer and more confident strokes as oppose to little short ones.
But another great update man, keep up the good work. I'd like to see that drawing for your gf, is it a portrait?

Peace

[Alternative]

Danlambert, you are the man. You have no idea how grateful I am for your many critiques =) I really apreciate it.
I am definately going to try the things you have said. I will try to cover the whole are with a tone, but usually when I do that it looks like crap. I don't know why, but it does. I guess I will try harder :D

Thank you!


I feel bad posting without something. So a quick landscape sketch. Critique is welcomed =)

[kyurai]

hey

on the landscape right now we are seing a lot of details in the background area, more detail than we see in the foreground.it s a very nice landspace if it really exists somewhere :) imho, the drawing needs something in foreground, to direct our eyes to where you want... perhaps some algae(is this how you write it ?) or some branches :)

[Alternative]

kyurai - I completely agree with you! The foreground is crap, the thing is I started from the back and then when I was half way through the picture I was bored and inpatient. So shameful =(

So that I don't post without a drawing, here is some anatomy. I will be posting more later tonight but this is what I have until now. I was looking around my house and there was this big thick book with bunch of sketches from Da Vinci. I'm using some of his sketches as ref. The full model is from Hogarth.

[Kidda]

Hi, Thanks for your comment on my sketchbook. Your studies are improving. Keep at it. Your line seems to be getting better. Try drawing your lines with one single fluid line, rather than sketchy lines (if you know what I mean). It's hard to start with, but it will pay off later. Much like your mask studies, they have good line. It's different for everyone, but I find fluid lines give alot of energy and dynamics. I also like your Eagle portrait. Keep up with bridgman. :)

[Raúl.Arbeloa]

Hi Alternative, sorry for the delay but I like to write as properly as I can in English, and I need to find enough time to express myself as correctly as I can :geekg: !
You are getting very good advice here in your sketchbook, if I were you I would make the most of it! :wink:.
One thing that specially capture my attention is that your line tends to be too hard, I think you're actually pushing too much and wearing out the paper. The softer is the pencil you are using more relaxed has to be your hand. This way if you have to correct or erase something you will still having a cleaner look on you piece and that helps to work comfortably.

Talking about the line:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhF4fBetN4Y

I know this video is on the Tutorials Forum but I couldn't find it there. Have a look at it!.

I hope this will be helpful :^^:

Congratulations dude, you are improving, keep it up!.

[SaintLConcept]

HEY! u're still posting and better keep it up!!^^

[danlambert]

Sketching/studying Da Vinci will be an incredibly worthwhile experience. He is THE man.
Keep up the good work man, looking forward to some more Leonardo inspired stuff.
Peace

[clockworksnail]

Hey,
16 year old alberto from Brazil!
im 16 year old kurt from England,
youve got a reli good Sketchbook here, not only because of how the figures look, but because there is a definate improvment throughout the whole book.
i cant really crit you to be honest, you seem far better then i am, but maybe i can catch you up in skill one day :P

il be back to see more!!!

[Aberzheim]

Hey, sorry for not commenting for a while... Ive been on-off the forums, but now will be on a regular basis

Anyways, I can see a lot of good progress coming along in your studies- just keep it up, like all skills it takes time before all the studies have an effect
that said, there are certain things that you can do to improve faster- try working in tones, not only in linework, and i see one of your earlier contour line work (the second tree drawing?) really good handling of pencil pressure, use that style in your studies!

And drawing from life as well, really helps to put your knowledge and skills to the test- this also applies if you're thinking of painting- try a couple of colour studies, then some object observation studies and landscape from life- you'll see good development that way

Keep up the practice, and remember- take time to enjoy drawing and painting occasionally, thats one of the things about art =)

[Alternative]

Hey guys, I havent posted in a whileee. I am in this AP Art class and a bunch of harder classes now in my school and that has kept me pretty busy. Firstly, I want to thank everyone that has posted in this thread :) I am going to post things much more regurarly, I have a breakkk coming up soon. Here are just a few stuff I got my hands on to scan. I am taking my camera to school tomorrow or so and taking pictures of some of my current work. I hope I can get better criticism then my art teacher.. All she says is "Great studies" or "Omg, you drew the hands too small!!"

So yeah, lets see this as a new rebirth of this sketchbook. Thanks in advance :sungod:

For those who are wondering.. The first study is a piece of cloth. Blah. I have been working a lot with water color, I have a bunch of new stuff to post laterrr..

[Alternative]

Trying to get into a sketch a day routine. Hopefully I will be able to keep it up! I shouldve done more today, but I am lazy D:

[Danny_K]

I see effort and I see improvement way to go! keep drawing drawing drawing.

[A.Fedotov]

Excellent work, a person playing the tune, very much. More practice, and succeed!
"Sorry for my English."

[SaintAsh]

Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook. :)

I like the cloth study in post #38. One suggestion: when painting in watercolor, I'd avoid using black to paint shadows or outlines. Black is a very dead color, and it's much better to mix your own blacks and greys with the colors you're already using. For example, the blue and crimson mixed together will result in a deeper purple that can be used for shadows in the cloth.

[NealTse]

Hello Alt,

Thank you for commenting on my sketchbook. Seems like you're doing a lot of drawings from books so your anatomy structure is getting better bit by bit.

A few things I notice though, you're not paying as much attention to gesture and the skeleton of your figures. They seem a bit out of proportion and not as fluid, the structure and expression are off. it's even more apparent when you go back to your own drawings that aren't observed out of a book. More life drawing of people (not from books!) will help fix that a lot, I'm not sure if you're in school, but look around for workshops and day classes if they have figure drawing models available.

Also you go in really really heavy with your pencil, lighten up your touch before you commit to a well laid out figure/composition. I like your landscape on the first page but I can see indentations on the paper from a previous page's drawing. You should never be pressing that hard.

Experiment with different ways to hold the pencil that help you change the pressure you use, holding it like a drum stick and drawing more from the side of the pencil tip then pressing down into the paper will help you create more controlled planes and shadows. If you look at Leonardo's drawings attached here, he doesn't just use his drawing tool to create rough indications of muscle indentations, he uses his lines as sculptural planes adding depth and roundness to his muscle shapes. his lines are carefully laid down to all flow in one direction and curve around each shape. Here's another good example: http://lh3.ggpht.com/FAMSF1/SIZcYf9_DrI/AAAAAAAAKZA/fhp0QAAbpF4/daVinci%20Angel.jpg

I like to see that you're putting in the work, and it's making you a better artist. If you take the fluidity and expression that you use in those beautiful water colours you've done into your pencil drawings you'll notice a whole range of expression available to you :)

Happy drawing!

[danlambert]

Good to see you posting again, those watercolours are great. I think people have said before but right now I think drawing as much from life as possible is your best bet. Find life drawing classes, do more still lives, self portraits, sit in town and sketch people, building, objects everything. As much from life as you can! Go go go haha

Peace
Dan

[Alternative]

Hello hello. Most of the stuff I did was rubbish, these are the only decent ones.

danlambert: Hello mate. Nice hearing from you again :) I will do so! Thanks for the comment.

NealTse: Hi there. Thank you so much for your post. It really helped me out, I never though about it like that. I am starting to do skeleton studies from real photos (I dont have a model just yet. I am trying to get some family members to pose for me for now.) I will pay attention to these things, thanks a lot. Really helpful post! =)

SaintAsh: Thank you a lot =) I am going to do some more watercolors tonight! Hopefully I will see some improvements. I have some old watercolors to post still, I will have them up asap.

A.Fedotov: Thank you sir! Good luck to you!

Danny_K: Thank youu.


I am starting to do an oil painting, this is just me playing with colors. As for the painting, I just layed in the background and did a sketch, so it wont be up for some time. here are some drawings, i am drawing a lot now that I am in vacations :) The last one is a wip, but i dont think i am going to finish it. I also did some digi painting, but I would like to keep that to myself for its suckiness haha.

[Alternative]

Guys, I am off to a little 4 day vacation to Argentina. I will be back soon with a lot of new stuff to post!! (I hope at least.. haha)

[Alternative]

Hello =)

I did not have any time to draw in Argentina (other than some hands with a random pen) so there is not much to post. Many of the stuff I did was neglected because they were pretty terrible. I am also doing some arm studies, but I want to post it all together.

The rendering of the chinese guy took me forever. I did it in two sittings, so that is why the legs look a bit different and more low quality then the uper body.

I also had my brother pose for me while he played video games in his boxers. It was pretty awkward.

Not very happy with the african dude.

Anywaysss... back to drawing.

Merry Christmas!


EDIT: Darn... I lost my Wacom's pen!

[Corvus monedula]

And here's a visit in return.

You've got some lovely studies here, I like em.
Reminds me I should do some more studies myself.
I'm a first-years art student atm and they make
us draw from observation. Figures are hard, but they say
that once you master the human figure you can draw all :)
Keep up the drawing from life.

Would love to see that oil-painting.
The paint study looks good to me.

[Zilhir]

The first study is a piece of cloth. Blah. I have been working a lot with water color, I have a bunch of new stuff to post laterrr..

hey! :) very good. but,don't use the black for colored stuff. try different colors.
maybe you can use the ultramarine blue for shadows. i think that is more effective
keep it up

[kyurai]

lovely study of that old woman/man !!!

[Alew]

Very good evolution here!
I particulary love your hands studies.

Continue your 60 sec poses :)
It is a great exercice.

Keep working!

[phoenicorn]

you are doing great like everyone says. Keep up the hard work

[Sir Cam]

Hi there, thanks for stopping by my sketchbook.

If you want to improve, I think the best thing you could do for yourself is pick up a good book on constructive figure drawing. Vilppu Drawing Manual by Glenn Vilppu or The It Book by Sheldon Borenstein are great places to start. Some other great books (though perhaps a bit less beginner friendly) are Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton and Force by Michael D. Mattesi.

What I'd like to really emphasize is that, without a solid understanding of the fundamentals, you will not improve. The only way to fully understand them is to study them. Sheldon Borenstein has some free videos on youtube that helped me out a lot when I was just beginning to learn, maybe they can help you out too: http://www.youtube.com/user/sheldonsartacademy

Good luck with your work.

[SaintLConcept]

Hey!! Merry X'MAS !!
how r u doing? btw thx for stoppin by ^^ havent heard of u for long time i'm so sorry to ,since my last visit here XD, ur drawings are improving, better and better, keep ur studies from life , ow and u should try drawing the same pose over and over again trust me it helps XD, keep it up ! i'll make sure i'll check ur sb again lol

[Alternative]

Hello boys and girls, I am back =] I was traveling for new years and right when I got back I had to work. i havent done much..

Well anyways. I feel like a douche bag for not answering all the comments, its late but I will definitely answer in the morning tomorrow!

I started a new book, Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton, as suggested by Sir Cam. Its great! Thanks for the suggestion. Gesture drawing is so hard. Anyone have any tips?

I also began to digi-paint. Finally. After having a tablet for like 2 years rotting on the side of my pc, i picked it up and started. I am just fooling around for now, I will start real studies soon!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0076.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0078.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0079.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0075.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0074.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0073.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0071.jpg

WIP
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/yobsh.png

Just fooling around with an old sketch
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/barbshar.png
WIPPPP
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SAVE.png

[ZhouPeng]

i've checked your sketchbook and those stuffs you've done~ you are very hard-working and you are getting better and better~ i accept your point that painting is just for hobby and fun, enjoying it, that will be the way of happy life~
if you want to improve you skills, perharps you could focus on one thing and practice it for some days , then change another point~ just step by step~
hope you get more fun in it~
cheers~
btw, i love brzil football team~

[Alternative]

Hello gentlemen. I just wanted to drop by to post a reply to all your wonderful comments!

Corvus monedula: Thanks for the comment! The oil paint should be done soon, I haven't been really working on it, but its for school so I need to finish within the next few days hah.

Zilhir: Thanks! I will definitely try that later! I was going for a different funky style, but I guess i didnt succeed.

kyurai: Thank you very much! Its a woman =)

phoenicorn: Thank you!

Sir Cam: I just wanted to thank you so much for your comment. It has helped me immensely. You are right, without the fundamentals I can go only so far. I bought the Hampton book, and its an amazing resource. I am studying it like a bible. Haha. But the gesture drawing part is very complicated i think. Anyways, thanks a lot!

Art4All: You know, after your post, I was thinking about that. I was thinking about drawing my anatomy studies over and over until I can do it perfectly from memory. Is that a good idea? Because I know repetition is a great way to memorize. Thanks a lot for your comment. It was short and helpful =)

ZhouPeng: Hello sir. thank you very much for your comment, I have this attention span problem that makes me wont to do a million things at the same time.. haha. I will definitely try to focus on one subject at a time. Thank you for the comment.


I shall edit this post later with some drawings so its not a post without drawinggsss.

[_ttot]

Hey, Alternative! Thank you for your posting at my sketchbook. Well... I'm answering, a little bit later, tho. :)

What can I say? Judging by your creations, you and everybody of us need learn a lot, the most important is a wish. And judging by considerable quantity of your works, you have real wish, and as I've already said, it is the most important. Draw, drow more and one more time draw! :)

[Alternative]

ttot Thank you for the kind words! Really appreciate it.

:mod:

I know I havent posted in a long time, I have been real busy with school and procrastination just hits me when I look at my sketchbook and then look at my scanner. Haha.

I scanned just a few things I have been working on. I joined this drawing group every monday, so at least 3 hours a week I will be forced to draw haha. The teacher there is great too, he has taught me a lot in only 2-3 sessions!


ttot Thank you for the kind words! Really appreciate it.

Anyway. Here are a few of my stuff. (sorry its not an attachment..)

Few quick ketches from the drawing group.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0089.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0088.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0090.jpg

Some anatomy. Need to spend more time heree!
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0087.jpg
Fun while watching Dexter..
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0081.jpg
Trying to understand some basic guns for my next drawing.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0082.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0084.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0083.jpg
Ball point fun!
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0080.jpg
Other fun
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0086.jpg

[Alternative]

Three more quickies!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0095.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0093.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0094.jpg

[Nibras]

Hey maaanng :D
Looking good, love all the studies you're doing and the way you're pushing.
It's paying off and Im starting to see improvement.

The only advice I have is to just push your imagination stuff! Really put all your effort into it and try to get it as good as you possibly can!

Keep on going nd looking forward to seeing more

[Droid]

Some nice stuff here, but I think you need to spend more time rendering up your sketches.

It looks like you spend a long time getting the linework right, but then throw in some lights and darks, which makes the sketch look hasty overall.

Keep it up.

;)

[Alternative]

Yowza: Thank you very much =) I will try to spend more time rendering, its just that a lot of my sketches are just linework and then in the end i decide i wanna render them too and it fails. Haha. I will work on that! Thanks for stopping by.

lilnebo: Hello! I am glad you decided to stop by =) Thanks for the comments! I try to do imagination stuff, but then I realize how much more studying I need to do haha. The human figure seems like a big mystery, i need to get better at it. Thanks again for stopping by.



I will edit with drawings later tonight! No posts without drawings!

[Drew Walker]

Damn man, you're progressing really well :D Keep it up, and remember to push the value range in your sketches ! Try different methods to get tone done, some people prefer different methods.

That dragon head on the last page was really good, can't wait for more !

I think it'd help if you took a peek at the Vilppu Drawing Manual. He gives you the tools to construct a figure, and Bridgman gives you the anatomical know-how. And try studying other people's studys and then get your's to the same level of finish and clarity - you need to start avoiding scratchy lines and draw with more fluidity.

Seeya !

[angelo cordon]

Hey Alternative -

I took a look through your sketchbook and we'll be working on a couple of things. I think that you studying anatomy is great and we're going to keep on doing that. I think you do need to learn some form and values so at the same time we'll be doing some still life studies.

I'm going to give you the same assignment I gave Daeyeth so you guys can learn from each other and be on the same page.

We're going to work on some figure drawings. When you're doing your line work, try to go for long and smooth strokes instead of short, feathery ones. Use websites for reference such as www.characterdesigns.com. Under their photo sets, there are plenty of references for you to use. Do at least one full page of figure drawings everyday.

Another assignment I will give you is a still life assignment. Set up a little still life next to you, something simple is fine. Don't use colors, just b&w. Refer to my post on Daeyeth's sketchbook regarding this. Still Life Tutorial (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2640749&postcount=11)

Since I gave this to you a day late, I'll make it due on Friday. Sound good? So what I want to see are at least 3 pages full of figure sketches and 1 b&w still life. Feel free to ask any questions.

[Alternative]

Loki.: Thank you very much! it means alot to me. I will try to do as you suggested.

Thank you for the comment my worthy Mentor! I will do as you say :)

Few sketches on animals. Tried focusing on their basic construction and my line quality.

http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=SCAN0101.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0096.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0102.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0100.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0099.jpg

[angelo cordon]

where are you dude?????

[Alternative]

Hey. I apologize for taking so long with my task. And turning it incomplete. School has been a pain, and I barely have time to even sleep nowadays. I worked on art the whole day today. I was not able to do any digital work, but I will have my still life asap.
Sorry for letting you down, mentor =(

Going back to the darn basics
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0104.jpg
Over simplified legs and arms. I drew it once with ref, then drew it a few times with no ref. Red = errors, blue = corrections
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0108.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0109.png

Figure drawing
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0107.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0106.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0105.jpg

Only decent production of today - Some focus on my line
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/cooldrawing.jpg

[Linguini]

Hey! Great studies! I should definitely do more of those too! Your progress is great, and it's always good to have a mentor. :) Can't wait to see more.

[daeyeth]

hey alternative! I'm angelo's other mentee. I'm a student illustrator currently on a hiatus from school but looking to use the free time to improve my skills

great sketches! your lines have a good flow in them and your figure/anatomy studies give me the sense that you grasp the way parts connect together. In the anatomy studies, more attention could be given to anatomical accuracy, like correct proportions and stuff, and something that helps me with that is finding relationships with other parts of the body. like this part is horizontal to that part.

on the other hand, your figure studies have good expressiveness because you capture the gesture great and the accuracy is negligible since that expressiveness over accuracy adds a nice exaggeration to the poses and body proportions.

[michaeljared]

i see a lot of improvement from your earlier posts, keep it up man. looking good. and make sure you draw lighter when you start a drawing, i like to use a hb at first.

[Alternative]

I will respond individually when tomorrow.. Its late :( I also might up the contrast in some sketches i think. my scanner makes everything seem dull and really light grey.
These sketches are not very good. I am in a drawing group, and the assignment of the this week (and last's too) was comparative anatomy, and how animal anatomy relates to ours. Meh. Thats all i have to say about this unit.
Only think I am proud of is the cutest ball of fur EVER! :D

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0115.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0114.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0112.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0111.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0110.jpg

I feel like I didnt try hard enough in these sketches. Now i feel bad :( Tomorrow I will do more quality stuff.

I need to work digitally too, but i freaking dont have time :((( ugh.

[angelo cordon]

Hey dude -

These are excellent studies. Although, I do have to comment that I'm not a big fan of your simple shape break downs. I think you are simplifying the shape, but you don't really know why it is shaped like that. You should study the muscle anatomy of the legs for example. Actually study how the muscles attach to each other.

http://www.getfittogolf.com/images/Muscles_backLegs1a.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VZhB9JmvpXE/SqbQkWeA1qI/AAAAAAAAA9U/0G8TnuP0HhM/s320/muscle_anatomy_upper_leg.gif

Notice how the the muscles do not end before the knees. They exist around the knees!
Go to this link (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94571) and download the Bridgeman Books. If you're going to go back to the basics, you should at least learn the right/better way ;)

As far as for your figures from characterdesigns.com, I think they're pretty good. However, I think you're also drawing based one what you seem to know vs what you actually see. The leg muscles that we have are the biggest muscles in our bodies. It needs to be so that it can support ourselves standing up, walking, running and all the crazy things we do with our bodies. Watch out for proportions here: head is big, shoulders are too wide with long arms. Also your limbs don't seem to really attach to each other, instead they are just sitting on top of each other, if that makes sense.

In the anatomy studies, more attention could be given to anatomical accuracy, like correct proportions and stuff, and something that helps me with that is finding relationships with other parts of the body. like this part is horizontal to that part.


Daeyeth has an excellent point. This is a good critique.

As far as rendering/shading goes, when I render my objects I let my strokes follow the form. Let your strokes go around the figure. This will give it more of a 3dimensional feel.


Again, when it comes to animal and human musculature comparison, I think anatomy studies will help you out the best. Check out how similar our bones are to bat wings:
http://www.woodwardcave.com/files/Bats/Bat%20and%20Human.jpg


Assignments:
So your assignments will be a little bit different from Daeyeth this week.

+ Check out those Bridgeman books. Do some studies off of those.
+ Do some human anatomy studies. Study how the muscles attach to each other. Refer to your own body for further reference.

I know you're crazy busy. If you can, post as often as possible and I can critique you along the way.

[Alternative]

School. Hurts. I. Hate. It.


I feel like a douche for not answering your wonderful post, I promise I will as soon as I get the chance.

I started birdgeman studies (I have some books from him already.) I am going to post AT LEAST a good study everyday. I am aiming for drawing everyday for at least a little bit. I hate saying this, because I end up not doing everyday and disapoint myself. I guess I can say, everyday that school is not raping me.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0116.png


By the way. How should I go about studying Bridgeman? Should I try to copy his sketchy style?

Thanks!

Alternative

[angelo cordon]

School. Hurts. I. Hate. It.

You got to do, what you got to do buddy.



By the way. How should I go about studying Bridgeman? Should I try to copy his sketchy style?


Don't just copy. Check out how he really simplifies his shapes. His shapes are simplified to a point where they are attached, kind of like robot pieces. See how they are attached, see how they "work".

You really demonstrated this with the arm for example. See how the arm ends to this square point which is the elbow. And how the forearm kind of wraps around that, letting the forearm move up and down?

Make sense?

[Alternative]

I will have replied to every single one of you tomorrow. I promise.


I had some time today to study a lot. :D I focused on getting the correct proportions. Tell me how I did!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0118.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0119.png



Here I focus a lot on my line. I was having a good day, so I wanted to finish it well! (Going to bed in 2 minutes)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0121.png

Just some fun. Its was a nice stress killer.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0120.png

Thanks guys.

Alternative

[Metal Fingers]

huge improvement once you switched up your mark making and you're studying the right stuff. Keep it up and you'll be awesome in no time.

[angelo cordon]

oh, man, these are awesomeEeeee!!!

From this point on, I don't want to see anything less from you :D ! Good job! I really like the flexing man and the sideview of the guy. excellent studies. Linework is clean and the shapes of the muscles are more and more distinct and closer to the real thing. Give us a little info on these studies - what do you think you're learning so far based on your own experience and opinions?

Also, cool little sketch. It's a good thing to exercise your imagination as well. I will get you a rendering tutorial sometime soon, as well as an interesting way to create creatures.

[Jasper_]

Hey bro thanks for commenting my sketchbook. You wanted to know how I went about learning anatomy, right? Your on the right path with Bridgman. His books are great, as are Loomis, Hogarth, Stephen Rogers Peck, Joseph Sheppard, and Sarah Simblet to name a few. They all have wonderful anatomy books. Be sure to explore different books on the subject, as the way one author demonstrates the construction or function of a certain muscle may be more clear to you than another author's.

While learning the underlying anatomy, if at all possible, attend figure drawing classes where can draw from a live model. That will give you a great chance to apply your knowledge of anatomy to a real person while also understanding how the muscles will affect the surface of the skin.

The big thing is, just keep studying and don't stop. How fast you want to learn these things are going to depend on how much and how hard you're studying, so keep at it. It takes time, but you'll get there.

[Alternative]

Hey guys! I promise I would answer back today. Sorry for the delay, really havent been able to.
Linguini: Thanks a lot, man 
daeyeth: Oh hello hello, nice to meet you :D Thank you for your comment, means a lot. I will definitely take into account your points.
michaeljared: I also use an hb. I try to draw light, but I tend to force the pencil too much without noticing. Thanks for stopping by!
Metal Fingers: Thanks a lot mate. Means a lot to me.
Jasper: Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I will try to find a figure drawing class around me! I really am going to take your words into account in my future studies.
and finally my mentor. Thanks a lot for everything. your help is so great. I just wanted to say that again, i know we talked like an hour ago!



Here i did two studies. On of the muscles of the chest, the ones in color are the active muscles in arm movement. I tried to apply my knowledge by placing my studies in an actual figure (right). Tell me if i did too many mistakes. Some of it is referenced from the anatomy book. It was like a puzzle =)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0123.png

Thanks guys. You guys are always keeping me motivated.

[Alternative]

Hello again. I am not having a very productive day.

I am still doing the chest (I wanna get it memorized before i continue)
Here is a study from a different way of seeing the muscles. I also did a not so good rendered chest from ref.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0124.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0125.png

[ActonArt]

Hi, great sketchbook. I'm seeing a lot of improvement from your first post. Figures, shading etc. are really improving.

Do you have a putty rubber? I think it would really help to bring out the highlights in your sketches. Right now I feel like you've got a bit too much shadow and not enough lights.

Keep up the good work.

[Alternative]

ActionArt :Thanks a lot for the kind words mate! I am going to buy one as soon as i get the chance to go to an art store. I feel that too!



Let say Yay yay, for an unproductive day!
I am a bit embarassed to even post these. Angelo, here is the still life from last weeks assignment. its not finished, but i was getting kinda depressed while doing it. haha. This is one of my first still lifes with photoshop. I also played around with these old markers i found. I will post more serious stuff tomorrow! Just trying to keep my one drawing a day going!

Someone help me with photoshop! ARGH. I was completely lost.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/stilllife1.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0130.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0129.png

[Alternative]

Argh. First attempt at gouache. Color study. The colors got crappy after i scanned it and the painting itself is much bigger.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0131.png

[angelo cordon]

hey dude -

sorry man, totally beat today. will send you something tomorrow and some crits along your way. that gouache painting actually kicks ass, i never really figured out goache myself. good job man.

[Alternative]

Bro, dont worry about it. I am patient. I was just wondering if you were dead or something haha.
Don't stress about it, post whenever you can man. I just hope everything is ok with you :)

Take care,

Alternative

[kyurai]

really nice improvement, man !

i like the fact that you do lots of different things!
that panda is lovely.. nice colours especially in the white part of the fur

and about the anatomy studies, the one with the chest muscles in movement ... i can identify most of them , but there is one i don t get there, the one under the armpit ... which one is that?

[Fiddzy]

Nice sketchbook, the anatomy studies are showing great improvements with every page, for both human and animal studies. Keep up the hard work.

[angelo cordon]

Hey dude,

Some pretty cool stuff going on here. Man that gouache piece is pretty nice. I'd actually like you to come up with more paintings using gouache and write up a tutorial for it. I bet more than anything, you'll learn a lot from doing that.

Also nice gestures with the soldiers too, you have some essentials down although I think you have some troubles with foreshortening, like with the knees and the forearms. Basic trick to that is to keep it simple, look at the overall shape. I'll try to make you a tutorial on that sometime soon.

Below is a slight paint over from one of your characters. Basically, you also need to think about the overall shape when designing these. Your homework these week will be to do a whole bunch of silhouettes and draw on top of those (just like I showed you on livestream).

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/theredshoe/alternative_critique.jpg

As for your still life painting, here is a tutorial I pasted on Daeyeth's sketchbook. Basically to keep your brush size fairly big and dont zoom in. Overall it actually looks pretty sweet, however I think the pink background might be messing you up.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/theredshoe/tutorial-text.jpg

[angelo cordon]

yo what's up

[Alternative]

Argh Guys. I have been drawing every day, but I havent had anytime to scan or do anything like that. I took photos some my recent work.
The oil painting is for school.
Oh, and I went to a 2 hour nude model session. First time I went. It was so intimidating and I didnt know where to start! haha. I am also doing a lot of gestures everyday.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03510.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03510.jpg)

[Alternative]

Argh. So much stuff. Sorry for the double post and the BIG, Low quality stuff.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03536.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03536.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03534.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03534.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03535.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03535.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0133.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=SCAN0133.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03511.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03511.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03516.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03516.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03517.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03517.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03519.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03519.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03514.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03514.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03520.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03520.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03521.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=DSC03521.jpg)
NUDE MODEL STUFF
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03522.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03524.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03525.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03526.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03527.jpg
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http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03529.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03530.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03532.jpg

[Alternative]

Some more garbage/"studies" i forgot.
Cant finish.. Lost the ref xD
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0137.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=SCAN0137.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0136.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=SCAN0136.jpg)
Quick still life
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0135.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=SCAN0135.jpg)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0134.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/?action=view&current=SCAN0134.jpg)

[slimin112]

Hey man really nice improvements from the first page. The bridgeman studies are working nicely. Your figures are much more dynamic and accurate.

Keep working!!

[Alternative]

slimin112 : Thanks a lot man! =D


Ill have new stuff today!

[kyurai]

nice, especially the gesture drawings are getting better :)
i would ve liked to see the bird finished though

[angelo cordon]

way to go dude!!! keep at em, keep going to those 2 hour figure drawing sessions!

As I've been slowly packing away over here, getting ready for my move, I've stumbled upon lots and lots of old stuff, like my old figure drawing pad from when I first started art school and my first sketchbooks. Four years has definitely gotten me good, and really that's the only way I could've done it is by keeping at it.

But of course, some kind of direction would've been nice back then!

Try working with charcoal sticks when working with still life and figure drawings. Use the side of the charcoal and not the tip or edges - this way, you're not using lines but more blocks of shapes. Start seeing figures and objects in the over all forms and shapes and not line art. This will start to show you things in 3d and not 2d things on your paper.

As for paintings, try working with a limited palette - burnt siena, ultramarine blue and white. And that's it, you'll be surprised with how many colors you can get with that one set! Check out Aaron Coberly's post on limited palettes.


Sorry I haven't been around there for you lately, man but you're doing excellent on your own!

Cheers,
Angelo

[Alternative]

kyurai: Thanks a lot for stopping by man. I am going to give you a visit in return =D Sorry i couldnt keep up with the bridgman studies. I have been going through some stuff in my personal life so i havent been with much time to post.

Angelo: As always, thank you a lot for the wise comments =) Mann, post some old stuff for me too see!! I know that you are very busy right now, so thank you for taking the time on writing up that comment.

In return. I took your suggestions into consideration! Here are some EXPERIMENTAL charcoals. I am not good at this, this is the first time i am trying this haha.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03634.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03632.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03631.jpg
Some other style of shading I am experimenting with.. Photo reffed from bodybuilders.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03628.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0139.jpg
Daily Study. (need to study more!)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0138.jpg

:ilaekae::ilaekae::ilaekae::ilaekae::ilaekae::wtf:

[Alternative]

Hey guys. Just wanted to drop this one for some CC.

I am working on the full body, but I wanted to know how I am doing so far. I think I might stop so I can draw a bit. I will get back to it tonight.

First real attempt at being patient with a figure haha.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/figure.png

:yayca:

[angelo cordon]

remember - big brushes. paint the shadow shapes.

[Alternative]

I will try to do so.. This is really hard.

Guys, I wont have much done for a little bit because i need to take out my wisdom teeth. I have four that need to be removed asap. Doing 2 today =(

[kyurai]

the charcoal experiments are really good. i like them.
i can t say anything about the girl yet, gonna wait to see how it progresses.

btw, alternative, are you doing something special when you upload the images ? cause from work, your sketchbook is the only one i can t see images in. Just wondering :)
And i m sorry about the teeth :(

[ALEXANDRE da Vinci]

Olá amigo artista de São paulo,
Parabéns pelo Sketchbook. Gostei muito de suas ilustrações em Watercollor, nunca trabalhei com esse material mas vi que vc tem uma precisão com ele. Continue assim e quero ver mais trabalhs seus em breve!
Abraço amigo!

Então, sou de Guarulhos SP e é ótimo saber que tem Paulistas eaui no Concept Art.Org!

[Alternative]

kyurai: Thanks man! =D
ALEXANDRE da Vinci: Valeu mesmo!



I went to the nude drawing session. And it am very disappointed with results.. I should just quit drawing and go play videogames in the dark.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03641.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03639.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03642.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03636.jpg
Closer look. This is the only drawing I like.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03637.jpg
Fail timing
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03643.jpg

Quick stuff.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03648.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03647.jpg


Ah guys. I am really unmotivated to draw.

[LAL]

I can see your progress, keep it up! fighting!

[Alternative]

Thanks LAL. I am trying, its just hard. I dont feel like I am progressing much and I am spending a lot of time everyday drawing. I dont know what I am doing wrong.

[angelo cordon]

explore different techniques and find ones that work for you!

i think you are doing too much line work!!! take a giant piece of charcoal stick, use the sides and thats it and dont draw lines! block in the shapes!!

we see things in shapes. when we look at the world around us, we dont see line drawings around objects or people. we see shapes, with details inside those shapes. light and shadows form shapes = values. so when you're drawing the figure, see things in forms of shapes.

kinda scattered, but hope that makes sense. let me know, maybe we can do another stream session one of these days.

[Alternative]

Angelo: I do as you say, master. :P

So I am reworking my whole figure drawing process. I feel like my previous methods suck, so I am searching for a new one. I think I am on the right track now. New style :mod:

Studies from figure drawing book:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03689.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03690.jpg
From photo ref:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03688.jpg
Having a bit more trouble with male figure
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03686.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03687.jpg
Perspective review for new project i am soon going to start
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03685.jpg
Creature fun stuff
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03684.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03683.jpg
wip - no ref
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03692.jpg

[ALEXANDRE da Vinci]

Olá,

Isso ai, continue assim amigo, gostei dos estudos de anatomia. Quero ver mais e mais estudos, quanto mais melhor. Tente trabalhar mais degradê no lapis para fazer formas nos musculos.

Vamo lá!

Abraço.

[Alternative]

ALEXANDRE da Vinci: Muito obrigado! Estou tentando isso mesmo.

Hey guys. I havent posted in a while! I have been real busy so I had no time to scan my work. I still have been trying to work just as hard though! Here are some of my recent stuff. Not so great cause I am doing some really basic stuff. I also have been trying to be more creative with my studies and do some stuff just for the fun of it.

Oh I also bought a moleskine. Its awesome!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/Arms.jpghttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0154.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0149.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0148.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03717.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03718.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0157.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0158.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03720.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0145.jpg

I hate acrylics after this study.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03726.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0160.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03713.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03716.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03724.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0152.jpg

[Fallenangel]

You've got a really good start,
keep up with those anatomy sketches and figure studies!

Alex.

[Alternative]

Fallenangel: Thanks a lot. I appreciate it!

Here are a few quicky moleskines for today. Didnt have much time to draw. Scanning sucks, sorry.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0168.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0166.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0167.jpg

[kyurai]

sweet improvement in the lines and the shading
the bridgman studies are looking great :) also i love the old woman portrait, very interesting face

[Alternative]

Thanks a lot for the comment mate! =D



Here is my first attempt at a figure painting with color.. I am still working on it, but i was wondering if there are things i am doing wrong? The whole process is very confusing to me. How do I get it to be not so dirty-looking?


Does she look like she is made out of gold? Lol.

[kyurai]

hey there :)

the choice of colours looks ok to me, it s just the transitions that are to "abrupt". And the contour line of her arm is odd.

i have this problem also, when i try things in colour, i find that some choices look pretty muddy.
here's a link that saved lots of annoyance when i chose the colours:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157251

i usually go for 3 main colours and mix them from there. It works for me in most cases, although i forget sometimes that i should start mixing the colours in a logical fashion, and not "what comes to mind".

[maeshanne]

you'r making good progress

[Alternative]

Maeshanne: Thanks a lot mate!
Kyurai: Thanks for the nice CC. I know it looks abrupt, I have no idea how make it not abrupt but still have different colors. Haha. There is so much text in that thing., I shall read it when I get home Thanks again.


I am in school, sorry for the imageless post. I am just really bored in English class.

[danlambert]

Hey man, looking at the top of this page I had taken a mental note that your proportions were inconsistent in a lot of your figures and that you should be doing lots more studies and maybe some bridgman to help you get used to doing them correctly. However as I scrolled down I saw that you had done exactly that! and your proportions have already improved. So awesome job man.
I'd like to see you address your head studies with the same vigor now! Overall they are pretty good but your feature placement is a little wayward in places. But again I'm sure you know this and it's just a case of keeping up what you're doing!
Keep up the ggod work man!

Peace
Dan

[angelo cordon]

dude good shit! I'm proud to see that you're still pushing yourself! sorry I didnt get to comment much, but something quick:

shadow colors are not color+black. a great way to do it is use a desaturated opposite of your main color. i.e. if the main color of an object is green, then you can use as a shadow color a dark grayish red.

kind of a quick explanation but ill comment more later! or facebook me!

the important thing is you're still drawing.

you're better today than yesterday and tomorrow you'll be even better.

<3
angelo

[Alternative]

danlambert: Hey! Nice to hear from you. I am definately working on these things now. I started with some eyes =) (look below) Thanks for the good comment!

angelo : Thanks a lot man! We havent talked in a while! lets get on msn or skype sometime man!


I have been working on an oil painting so not much to post. I will show the painting when its done!

Anyways..

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03857.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03858.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03859.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03860.jpg

And finally a small study of the chest and digipainting tecniques

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/man1.png

Thanks! :yayca:

[Alternative]

Hello guys. Today's batch. I need to study for exams but I might post more later. Sorry for the crappy photos.. The room light made everything look yellow.. I took some invidividual photos so that its easier to see. I will reupload maybe tomorrow.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03878.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03879.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03880.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03881.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03882.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03883.jpg

Yay page 5.

[redpandafire]

Your digipainted chest seems very good! The last post of figure studies have very nice continous lines. I like it when they're as clean as you have em. I can see you vary the tone in the line a bit haphazardly (at least for my eye). They seem to almost go around in a "marching ant" pattern in some studies. I usually keep the darker line on the darker side of the drawing, but thats just what I've found to be best for me.

Would also help the scene if there was less gaps in the shading, and my eye could clearly see the change in direction from one piece of the figure to the other. ;) But I'm just nitpicky. I think you're studies are good!

[Nezumi Works]

I'm seeing a lot of real progress since the first page. You've got a much better grasp of form and volume than you had, and I'd keep pushing that aspect of your work. Really make those shapes, even abstract ones, so solid you could grab them and pull them off the page.

You've still got a bit of disconnect between your referenced work/studies and imaginative work, but it's getting smaller and smaller. That's the hard part, of course, and I've still got to deal with it too. But you're definitely headed in the right direction.

[kyurai]

nice studies, man. you are definetly improving, especially in the lines.

Keep at it !

[Alternative]

redpandafire: Thanks a lot for the comment! I am trying to get my line weights right, but I am having a lot of trouble with them. :(

Nezumi Works: Yeah, my stuff from imagination are still really weak. But I am studying to get better! Thank you!

kyurai: Thanks a lot buddy! I am trying my best.

No image for today. Stupid Exams. Maybe later when I am done studying.

D:

[kyurai]

good luck with the exams then! concentrate on those :)

[Alternative]

I did well! yay!
Now school is over i can focus more on art! These are the first ones of many for these vacations. I also went to figure drawing session in the cultural center of my town. Fun stuff!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03886.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0174.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0171.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03897.jpg

The few from life drawing session kinda worth showing. Well, even if they look like crap, i had a lot of fun!
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03895.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/DSC03892.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0173.jpg


I will stop drawing in big paper and move to normal a4 paper so I can start scanning them. These photos look terrible.

[danlambert]

These are looking good, man a big improvement to earlier sketches, you're getting some great proportions and the form is really coming through in a lot of them. Now your free and done with school (like me!!) I'd suggest first of all doing a really in depth drawing, spend hours on it and really push it as far as you can in terms of value and describing form. Then just keep up what you're doing, but introduce more colour work and more faces. Hell lets see you do an illustration, enter a CHOW?

This is a summer for progress my friend! Take it easy

Dan

[kyurai]

i like the way your shading improves . if these are from life you r are doing a great job catching the poses

[Alternative]

danlambert: Answered in ur sketchbook =)
kyurai: Thanks alot!! Some are from life, the chicks are not though.


So I am dedicated in doing Bridgman's Constructive Anatomy from start to finish this week. I am on page 17 I think. Here is my progress so far, I started this afternoon.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0176.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0177.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0178.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0187.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0180.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0185.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0182.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0186.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0184.jpg

[LAL]

Hi man,Nice works,I saw your exercise is very useful,keep this work up man!

[Alternative]

Thanks a lot LAL! I am nearly done with the hands section of Bridgman, its taking me forever.

Do you guys think its worth doing what I am doing? I am definately up to copying most of the books illustrations and i have the time to do so, but idk if that is very effective! haha.

[Vertical]

I'm doing that with a couple of books too, so I think it's a good idea. Hope so anyway. It can get hard to resist just copying the illustration instead of studying it and learning what it says. Anyway they look really good. 160 pages in a week is really ambitious, keep going!

[Alternative]

Thanks for the comment. Yeah it might be way too ambitious haha. Stupid hands, I really dont understand them and even tho this is helping me ALOT its really annoying haha. Cant wait to move on to the forearm =)


Sorry for the these comments without scans! Back to drawing!

[Mike D]

Great studies! I can tell you really enjoy art and all these studies will greatly help you in the long run.

Keep going man, looking awesome.

[Alternative]

Thanks a lot mate! =) I will keep going!


Argh, i had a friend over so I wasnt able to draw or scan last night's studies. I WILL beat this challenge haha.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0195.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0189.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0196.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0197.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0192.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0193.jpg
And now to the forearm.. I learnt so much already. yay =)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0194.jpg


More to come.

[Sir Cam]

Hey man, thanks for the helpful comment in my sketchbook. :)

It's great that you're studying Bridgman and Hampton, your studies are all looking good. The main thing I'd try to be aware of though is in getting clean separation of the masses in your figures. By this, I mean try to make your overlaps a little more defined so that it is totally certain what goes behind what. Make your shapes clean and pretty. As it is, it seems like you may be hanging onto that outline a bit too much rather than how the forms are fitting into each other (structure). An example of this might be, rather than having a curvy line going from the Pectoralis and around the breast, break that line into a (relative) straight for the muscle fibers and a curve for the breast, indicating the way the straight fits into the curve. Straight vs Curve design is what it's all about. So again, rather than having a line surrounding multiple masses, break it into straights and curves for the individual masses that make up that line and clearly define how they fit together for nice structure.

I hope this helps, good luck with your work.

[kyurai]

nice studies, man ! and very accurate.
other than this i really have no comment! keep it up

[Alternative]

Digital paiting is addicting... Its 5 am haha. I had to stop or else I would wake up too late tomorrow.

I need to scan tons of pages and I will answer to comments tomorrow morning. Just wanted to show my progress in this painting. Feedback so far? I feel like I have learnt a lot with it through continous trial and error. Also, I feel like I spent way too much time.. Is it normal for me to be going at a very slow speed right now? It took me a few hours. This is the painting at like 25%.


Thanks guys~!

[danlambert]

Some really nice form in that last one man! really nice!
The thing that I see you missing so far is you're doing all this studying, but you're not applying! You've done 2 days of hands yes? Well you're far more likely to retain that information if you then try and draw some hands from youre head, or draw a whole figure but try to convey a mood through the hands. Implementing your studies is so important man! Get to it!! ;)

Peace
Dan

[marc_redd]

i must say youve got some great anatomy studies here!

[Alternative]

Sir Cam: Thank you so much for the great advice. I have been having some problems and your advice helps alot!
kyurai: Thanks a lot man! :)
danlambert: I cant agree with you more. I need to start applying what i learn! Thats the fun part and i am missing out haha.
marc_redd: Thank you very much.


So i have been doing a lot of digital paiting experiments. Here is more progress on that figure and 2 experiments. I am going wayyy too slow on my painting so I did that last one by blocking in shapes. What i need is balance of my first and my last.. I was just trying different things, it was overall very fun. Just trying to learn :)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/greyfigure.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/armor.png
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/chestgrey.png

[Jacobo]

Alternative,

Cool stuff in this thread. I haven't read all of the comments but I did look at the drawings.

Some initial notes:

1. I like that you're studying anatomy especially from good sources like Bridgman. Keep it up. You'll need to do more and much more in depth. Also try to do some of your own studies. If you have a access to a skeleton try drawing it from different angles and then laying in the muscles on top of that. It's hard for me to tell how much analysis versus copying went into some of the studies that I see here. Working from unique angles and working this stuff out for yourself will guarantee that you'll filling those weaker areas in your knowledge.

2. Lighten up your lines. It seems to be that you have a heavy hand which is going to make things tough. The Old Masters would usually work very lightly and build up drawings in layers. I think that it is a grave misconception that artists should be able to just nail the final lines right out of the gate. Build up your drawings constructively...

3. Think more 3 Dimensionally. Use simple mass conceptions such as the spheroid, cylinder, and box for the major forms and build the smaller forms out of the same solids. Draw THROUGH your work even running your lines lightly across the hidden side of forms. This is part exercise but part of the everyday bread and butter that you'll use either mentally or on the page for the rest of your career as an artist. I recommend that you do these exercises and post them here.

If you keep posting, I'll keep offering my humble feedback. I really like your voracity and look forward you challenging yourself. I think to become great we really have to be a bit nuts... way beyond obsession. Keep it up and lets see more!

[Alternative]

Thank you for the in depth response mate. I really appreciate it. You were right on every single thing you said. I will try to follow your advice!

I will post some sketches tomorrow if I am able to fix my scanner.

[Alternative]

Hello guys! Long time no see! I havent posted in 3 months, wow time flies.

Lately I have been packed with work for school, so I had to make the choice of cutting the time I usually spend scanning to just drawing. My time has been so limited lately.

Well, this is just a few of the stuff I have been working on. Not much since I did not want to post a million sketches, only the relevant ones.

Old to New

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0209.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0208.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0210.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0211.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0198.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0200.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0201.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0202.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0215.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0216.jpg

Some Moleskine
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0205.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0206.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0207.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0212.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0218.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0217.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0220.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0221.jpg

Just to ruin this post. Something from imagination
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0214.jpg

[Alternative]

Hello guys. Some stuff. The contrast after scanning is terrible, so things look really flat =/
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0222.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0223.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0226.jpg
Quick pen sketches.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0224.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0225.jpg
I really feel like my anatomy is starting to "click" in my head. I feel like I am slowly starting to understand how to lay it on top of the figure.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/Betossketches/SCAN0227.jpg

[TheDonQuixotic]

You seem to be doing Loomis too. Good work on it. One suggestion is to watch your line quality. It tends to be very scratchy. How about this: use a blue pencil. A lot of animators do it for their underdrawings before they go over it. It would allow you to remain loose but produce a final sketch with a more distinct form.

[Alternative]

Thanks a lot for the comment. I will for sure try this blue pencil tecnique you speak about :) It seems like something that could really help me.

[Justyna]

Hi,

Nice sketches, you're definitely getting better and also your lines don't look so messy.

Those anatomy studies look really great, specially those of chest. I would suggest paying some more attention to proportions though, for example that last piece has too small legs as compared to head and back.

Good job and keep posting! :)

[kyurai]

very nice !

the sketches in darker pencils have a little more sketchy lines than the others though.

I like the studies, man. It s nice that you re starting to work from reference as well. From what i see when i try these loomis/bridgman studies, is that when i redo what i studied from a reference photo, the knowledge seems to stick in head a little bit more.

[Brahimpag]

great stuff uvgot there

anatomy studies looks pretty nice , just keep them up

and i really want to see some imaginative stuff

[Moriah]

These anatomy studies are looking great. Keep it up!

[Gthm/death]

NICE........... I really like you studies.......... I see that you have improved alot comparing this page and the first one.......=]

[Rhoades]

Hey, nice studies man....your Bridgman studies are pretty solid. I really like that Inkling form #145! I'd like to see some more ink from you!

[NickyBeats]

hey amigo!! thanks for the nice comment in my sketchbook!

first off- you have come a looooong way since page one! i just went through your whole sketchbook, and i cant believe how much better your getting already! great job on all of the studies, keep it up!

i feel like some of the studies you are getting bored with, and dont put as much effort into them, because alot of your other studies are just fantastic. the rendering is high quality, but then again i have the same problem. its my god damn add!! but keep rocking dude, your getting way better!

[DStraX]

great work !! onely crit is you should update more often :P
digitial paintigs are wonderfull, they have a great sense of depth

[S_Gangl]

woah ... :D
very nice progress!!!
I can see, that you work very hard to study the human anatomy ;) I like that
Great job (from the beginning till yet!!!)

I also like your linework

[AndromedaCollision]

wow alternative your drawings are awesome :D
I really like the hands you draw :)

[lazicoliver]

Hey Alternative. First thanks for the visit and the constructive feedback. It means a lot to me. It's hard to improve without an extra pair of eyes. I'm working on a new pholio with all the improvements. Thanks one more time.

P.S I checked out your sketches. I like them. You do have talent, just try to stage your characters in a more dynamic way (deep foreshorthening, defined camera position above/below horizontal line, etc. Comic books are great for that. Like I said from what I see u got it, just keep drilling.
peace

[Kjesta]

There's such a lot of improvement going on here! It's very inspiring to watch.

I'd say keep the great anatomy studies coming. And maybe pick up another subject too? Starting with drapery might be a nice addition so you can dress your characters up soon :)

[danlambert]

Ya dead man?

[Alternative]

Hey guys. I just want to say that you were such an inspiration for me. And that even though I havent posted in so long, i am so thankful for all your comments.

I have been trying to diving in deeper into art and I have been trying my hardest, I am sorry I dont post the things i do here anymore. I am writing this post so that I can thank all of you and to put a bit of pressure on myself to get off my ass and scan my work.

Lets make this the first post of a new sketchbook. Hi am Alberto and I am necroing this thread :p