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Tonic
June 6th, 2009, 06:07 AM
As so far, one idea I've sketched:
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/idea_sketch_01.jpg
Composition is boring as hell, but it shows what is about. There a scale between trees and human made objects and mood are the most important point. The idea is.. so-so, but obviously I'm going think about other ideas. Maybe adding something emerging from Earth's inside and below hole in the sky to add more drama. I guess I will spent majority of time for brainstorming than illustrating the idea. That's one of best parts in digital painting, as it allows to "prototype" ideas in short time :)
Pnyx
June 6th, 2009, 06:25 AM
the mood looks pretty cool but i must admit that it took a long time to realize the scale your planing for the trees.
One of the problems - at least i think so - is that the trees follow a normal perspective - also in the backgroudn - it just looks like a normal forest with some weird half round shaped ground which could be water considering the reflections.
But nothing indicates that this round ground is the earth.
maybe you should draw the trees so that they all point to the center of the earth - or away from it actually - to stress the scale of the whole scene.
( so they stand at a right angle in relation to the earths surface - as the little towns to already)
Hope it helps
cheers
Tonic
June 11th, 2009, 06:49 AM
the mood looks pretty cool but i must admit that it took a long time to realize the scale your planing for the trees.
One of the problems - at least i think so - is that the trees follow a normal perspective - also in the backgroudn - it just looks like a normal forest with some weird half round shaped ground which could be water considering the reflections.
But nothing indicates that this round ground is the earth.
maybe you should draw the trees so that they all point to the center of the earth - or away from it actually - to stress the scale of the whole scene.
( so they stand at a right angle in relation to the earths surface - as the little towns to already)
Hope it helps
cheers
With the Earth, I agree, there are not much characteristic shapes such as mountains, rivers, forests etc. I will think about it. About trees, I guessed you were thinking that the third vanishing point is placed in Earth's core, yes? I wanted to do spheric perspective, meaning two third vanishing points, one in sky, second in Earth's core. That's why towns, being in bottom part of "sphere", are pointed to Earth's core, while trees are rising to point in the sky. The perspective execution isn't the good and that probably leaded you to your opinion - thanks for telling something I wasn't aware :)
Anyway, there's another sketch, no specific idea, just playing. Now I think it would better to replace those trees with this flower, or something similar - a unknown, beautiful and gigantic flower. It may look nice with good painting, but the idea is still boring as hell.
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/idea_sketch_02.jpg
Baron Impossible
June 11th, 2009, 07:08 AM
You could combine the two ideas, maybe industrial and organic; have that huge plant growing in a derelict urban wasteland, contrasting the colours of the plant with the greys and browns of the cityscape. Nice ideas, keep it up. EDIT: You could have the plant glowing too.
hala
June 11th, 2009, 08:39 AM
I agree with baron on this one, even though I really liked the idea behind the first image. What are your brush settings when you painted the flower? I'm sorry if this is an ultra noob question. I just love the way that looks.
hunchback
June 11th, 2009, 10:55 AM
more ideas!!:assspank:
Tonic
June 11th, 2009, 11:36 AM
You could combine the two ideas, maybe industrial and organic; have that huge plant growing in a derelict urban wasteland, contrasting the colours of the plant with the greys and browns of the cityscape. Nice ideas, keep it up. EDIT: You could have the plant glowing too.
Thanks for suggestion of combining, look below. About glowing plant, actually it's glowing with green :P Perhaps I could play more with bouncing light and hitting on surrounding rocks.
I agree with baron on this one, even though I really liked the idea behind the first image. What are your brush settings when you painted the flower? I'm sorry if this is an ultra noob question. I just love the way that looks.
I hardly remember it. Sometimes I just want a certain effect and don't think much about how to do it. But for pushing colours and lighting I think I've used various layers - Soft Light, Overlay, Multiply could do job, assuming you choose proper hue, saturation and value because these blending modes acts variously with colours.
more ideas!!:assspank:
Okay, but could you stop panking my ass? :P
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/idea_sketch_03.jpg
hala
June 11th, 2009, 12:13 PM
hax! That's all i can say. This is way strong
Baron Impossible
June 11th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Ooh yeah, I like that.
Don't forget the "bring" bit of the title, as in "bring something into this world". So you need a bringer or a mechanism for bringing. I guess that guy could take that role. Another idea, you could have that guy as an urban wizard and the plant-thing as an entity being created entirely from the debris and rubble of the derelict city, a sort of industrial djinn. Actually, if you don't use that idea I will, for my next one :)
Tonic
June 12th, 2009, 04:44 AM
I'm glad you like it. Yeah, it's my favourite sketch so far, more painterly than previous ones.
Don't forget the "bring" bit of the title, as in "bring something into this world". So you need a bringer or a mechanism for bringing. I guess that guy could take that role. Another idea, you could have that guy as an urban wizard and the plant-thing as an entity being created entirely from the debris and rubble of the derelict city, a sort of industrial djinn. Actually, if you don't use that idea I will, for my next one :)
Wow, again, you have nice ideas. You could have do at least 10 works with different ideas for contest..
But what you said about "bring" part is interesting. I thought it was me, author, who is bringing life, not a someone or something inside work. That changes things, I will think about it. Thanks :)
I will do another sketches - I want to have at least dozen of them before I start serious brainstorming and combine sketches, then do few full works for contest.
graphicgolem
June 12th, 2009, 08:30 AM
Ohh yeah I like that last one a lot - reminds me of Clive Barker's 'Weaveworld' - very magical and dark. It would be good to see bits flying the buildings into the vortex feeding it...
Brashen
June 12th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Tonic...........sex...
pearlyking
June 13th, 2009, 04:21 AM
I like what you've done so far and I'm hungry to see more. The last concept is my favorite.
Tonic
June 14th, 2009, 06:58 AM
Went with Baron's and graphicgolem suggestions. No industrial djinn as I wanted primarily. As usual, new ideas come during painting:
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/idea_sketch_04.jpg
bWorx
July 5th, 2009, 09:22 AM
Intense! I like the twister tentacles thing, lots of force in there.
Droid
July 5th, 2009, 09:36 AM
I love the mood of all these ideas, and I like the tentacley one best.
Keep it up man.
;)
shamandalie
July 5th, 2009, 09:51 AM
WAOW. @_@
I love post #7 most. Beautiful works Tonic!
Tonic
July 23rd, 2009, 05:40 PM
Thanks to you all! Seems that tentacle thing from post #7 is a most favored one :) There's another idea. I'll probably go with this, but I'm going start again with differentl approach, as composition is boring as hell. Also, I will see how it would look with the same mood as in tentacles work.
The theme is Yggdrasil, a tree of life from Nordic mythology. At least it was in my mind, because it doesn't look like tree...
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/idea_sketch_05.jpg
st.s
July 23rd, 2009, 06:24 PM
Really like your brushes…
And yes, tentacle thing is my favorite too.
Last one is not so dynamic…
artina
July 24th, 2009, 03:02 PM
That last post is amazing. It really draws you in to the center. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
Tonic
July 30th, 2009, 01:16 PM
Started with the last sketch. Still, a lot of work has remained and I'm painting it steadily :)
Any critics?
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/wip14.jpg
Huey Yeng
July 30th, 2009, 01:42 PM
I find the composition kinda big. o_O
Its a bit loose at the middle part of the composition. Try lowering down the mouth of the tree?
Other than that nice work. Deadline is around the corner. :o
Tonic
July 31st, 2009, 09:57 PM
I'm sickened with this work. I've sent it already to conceptart. Right now it's 5:00AM :) After sleep I'm going to post few WIPs.
http://tonic-art.com/gallery/contests/newborn/michal_milkowski_newborn_entry.jpg
Huey Yeng
July 31st, 2009, 10:25 PM
Looks great Tonic. The composition is much more better this time. :)
MoonChilD
July 31st, 2009, 10:35 PM
everything here looks very cool...
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