The Newborn Contest!!! (Now with more prizes!)

[NIRONERU]

despite my efforts I could assume that most just did not liked my submissions because of the rating it received... I still need more practice... though I have the feeling the winner will be either randis , lillycat or jason C-M... goodluck guys...

[Baron Impossible]

I went through and voted on all the ones there yesterday, because everyone else seemed to be doing. Not sure if it made a difference, and some are still being added, but better than nothing I guess.

BTW - the post rating thing seems buggy to me. A post will say something like "ranked 6.2 out of 10 with 32 votes" and when I vote it will change to maybe "ranked 7.1 out of 10 with 139 votes". When I go back the next day it's back at 32 votes. That happens on all of them.

I tried on a couple of PCs, both with browser caching disabled, but with the same result. I'm not bothered but it just seemed odd.

[Kitten Poker]

I don't think voting by ranking posts works anyway, since there is often more than one pic in a post, so you can't vote for a particular image. I think maybe everyone is just too busy with other stuff, and they need all the entries to be posted before they can put up a poll?

[diissar]

I went through and voted on all the ones there yesterday, because everyone else seemed to be doing. Not sure if it made a difference, and some are still being added, but better than nothing I guess.

BTW - the post rating thing seems buggy to me. A post will say something like "ranked 6.2 out of 10 with 32 votes" and when I vote it will change to maybe "ranked 7.1 out of 10 with 139 votes". When I go back the next day it's back at 32 votes. That happens on all of them.

I tried on a couple of PCs, both with browser caching disabled, but with the same result. I'm not bothered but it just seemed odd.

i noticed the same thing,i don't know if its a bug or not,but looked weird to me,one other thing is the rating i was surprised when i saw you had only 5points out of 10!

[jdillon]

We were all busy, but we still got our work turned in on time. How many of us had to pull late nights or cancel plans to get our entries done by the deadline? Getting the results of the contest to us in a timely manner seems like a basic courtesy. And if the results are going to be late, hopefully someone will let us know so we're not all sitting here refreshing the page all day for however long it takes until the results are up.

( I just want to confirm I lost so I can stop worrying about it and move on with my life, haha :P )

[LillyCat]

( I just want to confirm I lost so I can stop worrying about it and move on with my life, haha :P )


Rofl, I feel the same :3 I have to go out of town for 3 days and I may just miss it. I do have to say jdillon your painting is amazing and I think you have great chance. So don't think you lost before it starts ;)

[xArchanfelx]

( I just want to confirm I lost so I can stop worrying about it and move on with my life, haha :P )

I hear you there. My entry has been shredded in the final images thread. I think it is the lowest ranking one there. :(

[miycko]

i only saw the final images thread today, so i only just uploaded,

guess who's got the lowest ranking now :)

[Daniel Andrews]

HOW TO ENTER:
1. Register to www.conceptart.org/forums \
2. Visit the contest forums http://conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=158 to see all the great details and info!
3. Create your artwork and submit your final entry in jpeg form at 1000 pixels wide to contest@conceptart.org (include your full name, conceptart.org username, address, and phone number in the email with the entry attached). Final submissions are due no later than July 31 2009 (central standard time)

I didn't revisit this page before I submitted on the thread. I completely over looked #3. Perhaps I wasn't the only one who didn't read directions properly and have a chance for it to count.
If not, live and learn.

I had fun with my painting. Contest or no contest it was worth the time spent.

[Vaejoun]

I am getting a little nervous every mornig when I check if the results are finally out. No sign of the peoples-choice yet ?

[Randis]

maybe should make The newborn final images thread sticky and link to ff forum so everyone can vote.
I see some people still didn't post their work in the thread.

[Vaejoun]

I really dont hope that the "final images thread" is the vote thread. It would be totally unfair, because some people might not have seen it in tiime and the one who posted first got more votes of course.

No, I really think they will open a new thread for it.

[ktkps]

I too ope that the "final images thread" is not the vote thread!!!....very anxious to see the final results

[jdillon]

I'm sure the "Final Images" thread is just for show; it's not going to determine anything (gosh, I hope not. People have been voting pretty harshly on every single picture!) There is supposed to be a new thread, one with an actual poll. It's just running really behind. We probably won't hear anything today, either, since there is that streaming online class running all today. There's a lot going on right now, and I kind of think we're just going to be at the bottom of the list of priorities for a while, unfortunately. It's all the more frustrating because even if the people's choice poll went up tomorrow, we'd still have to wait another week for the final results now. And a lot of us probably would really have liked to used that extra week to work on our entries more. I know I would have. :/

[MeBabyMe]

I couldnt agree with your last point more, jdillon

[Marduc]

I feel the same way. I had to leave for a canoe trip that I had planned months ago, so I ended up not being able to use the last week of July. I could have really used another week since I don't consider my image at all finished...... Ahh well, it was fun anyways.

Randis, your golem image rocks! My bets are on you.

[oren90]

I really dont hope that the "final images thread" is the vote thread. It would be totally unfair, because some people might not have seen it in tiime and the one who posted first got more votes of course.

No, I really think they will open a new thread for it.

i too hope that the final images thread isn't the vote thread and i don't think that i recieved more votes and not only that people are pretty harsh with the ranking for some reason

[Cryptcrawler]

i too hope that the final images thread isn't the vote thread and i don't think that i recieved more votes and not only that people are pretty harsh with the ranking for some reason

Yup, I likewise noticed this.
Literally before I could cycle back to my post immediately after posting it to see if I had linked it correctly etc, it had already been ranked a 2.

It's like they couldnt do it fast enough, and there were only like 5 people in this forum at the time as well, even less cruising the actual thread - so it was pretty obvious who did it and why.

Hey, you dont like my work? Fine, nobody said you had to - but dont be a vindictive infant about it.

Thats the problem with poles and votes in competitions like this, its easy to log in with dummy accounts and pad your own ratings while ranking down the competition, just check out the thread to see thats whats happening - lots of quality work getting ranked with 3's and 5's when they are more like 8's, while not so great work is 6 and 7's.

Its really dissappointing to see childish behaviour like that in such a great community thats known for striving for personal excellence and honest feedback.

[Baron Impossible]

I agree, it's all a bit silly, but public voting is always like that. That's why you should only look on these comps as a bit of fun. And often a "1" is a better compliment than a "10". After all, art should provoke an emotion and if that emotion is jealousy and anger then damn, that's great! :)

[Cryptcrawler]

I agree, it's all a bit silly, but public voting is always like that. That's why you should only look on these comps as a bit of fun. And often a "1" is a better compliment than a "10". After all, art should provoke an emotion and if that emotion is jealousy and anger then damn, that's great! :)


Your know your so right Baron, I should have thought about that as much as I preach using the dark side of the force to draw.

:devil::frustrated::devil:

[st.s]

Your know your so right Baron, I should have thought about that as much as I preach using the dark side of the force to draw.

:devil::frustrated::devil:

WOW, you actually got only 8 out of 10 for that post.
I love those rankings. They are so random :rendered:
You are absolutely right about everything man...

[MoonChilD]

well this public voting is like the eurovision...you know:)
not always the best that win

[xArchanfelx]

I agree, it's all a bit silly, but public voting is always like that. That's why you should only look on these comps as a bit of fun. And often a "1" is a better compliment than a "10". After all, art should provoke an emotion and if that emotion is jealousy and anger then damn, that's great! :)

This just made me feel a lot better.

[JJacks]

I agree, it's all a bit silly, but public voting is always like that. That's why you should only look on these comps as a bit of fun. And often a "1" is a better compliment than a "10". After all, art should provoke an emotion and if that emotion is jealousy and anger then damn, that's great! :)

I wouldn't automatically assume that getting a one meant that someone was jealous of my entry but I do agree with the general consensus that the rankings in the thread don't make sense and are very harsh. It doesn't bother me personally but it's a kind of odd thing to see.

[magicgoo]

There should have been a voting guideline to follow. For example:

1 = This image is an absolute abomination of art. It shows no effort and took no talent. A few hours (if that) were spent creating this piece.

5 = This image is average. Not bad, but needs much more effort involved.

10 = There is not one mistake in this supreme piece of artwork. It is the prime example of talent and time well spent. It probably took a few weeks to a month to create.

Then fill in the in between ratings accordingly. You know, something along these lines.

[calyx]

Thats the problem with poles and votes in competitions like this, its easy to log in with dummy accounts and pad your own ratings while ranking down the competition, just check out the thread to see thats whats happening - lots of quality work getting ranked with 3's and 5's when they are more like 8's, while not so great work is 6 and 7's.

Its really dissappointing to see childish behaviour like that in such a great community thats known for striving for personal excellence and honest feedback.
I can't agree less.. it makes me terribly confused on how all is ranked now, and if i should place votes using the basis of what has been set up with what seems like rank 4 and 5=fair, 6 and 7= good, 8, 9=best..?? stretching the appropriate range from 1-10 to say....-5 to 9?? I also wonder if the "idea development (50 percent) and technique (50 percent)" part is taken into any consideration at all for many of the pieces, some have excellent concept and deserve so much more. All in all though, i have never agreed with a ranking system.. but admit i do find it funny sometimes in non-serious circumstances.

On the same thread of these problems is also the popularity contest.. i hope this wouldn't come in especially in the real polls.

[Camilla]

Yes, a lot of work that it mediocre at best (I'm sorry folks, but in my humble opinion some of it is not really outstanding) get ranked almost as high as really outstanding work.

Clearly people have not asked themselves: 1) Is it well executed? and 2) Is the content original? That means not a copy of a copy of the orc/robot/fairy/whatever, that everybody draws.

Rather, you are left with the feeling that people think: "Oh man, there's slime in it, how cool!" or something, or worse, that people are actively boosting their own ranking.

Too bad.

[MoonChilD]

i think, it should be like "choose your ten best and put it in the order you like"

that would wipe out all this nonsense..

[ladycrowe]

I'm a little confused. Has there been an official note stating the votes on the final images thread are the people's choice votes or is that just the general assumption?

[LillyCat]

@ladycrowe- It is just to post all the works together and then people started voting. I am sure it will have nothing to do with the People's Choice vote. It just has been a few days and noone has heard a word about the contest and what is going on and everyone is getting a little uneasy. So of the people are still posting their work and that would be unfair to just go of that thread.


As far as the voting/ranks on the images and posts go... I find it funny how Jason's first post opening up Final Image thread has 7+ rank and that is 95% higher then most of the artwork in the whole bunch. ;)

I would not worry about the voting at all. There will always be people that don't care. I think it is better to tell the people what you really like. I have personaly gone to a few outside of this site to let them know how much I really like their work.

The truth may be that there are just to many images at the moment for everyone to really take a good look and vote/rank accordingly. To really have a good idea you have to study the image and think about everything as a whole and that can take a few moments of your time. Randis's work really is wonderful and it is a little shocking that it is not ranked higher. I still believe that he will win with the Golem. The people's choice will be really up in the air. Then you have to take out the winners of the regional. That can take out most peoples #1 they would have picked for the people's choice. The ones that everyone really loves right now may just be taken out of the people's choice vote when they place in the top winners. To leave more open to vote for..so everyone keep an open mind for voting and don't think their is no way that you could not be the lucky few <3

I am sure when it comes down to the real PC's voting, the grand winner and areas winners...judging will be much more fair.

[TheDirtSyndicate]

i would assume that a whole new thread will be created for the simple fact that more than half of those pieces in the final image thread dont even follow the contest theme at all.
those will be disqualified and not in the running for final voting.
just be patient guys.

[LillyCat]

i would assume that a whole new thread will be created for the simple fact that more than half of those pieces in the final image thread dont even follow the contest theme at all.
those will be disqualified and not in the running for final voting.
just be patient guys.


Agreed.

I was just thinking...is there something set up to stop someone that makes new emails or ip or even has many people sign-up the day of the voting to vote on the artwork or something? Like if there is an overflow of people new to the site and is known that all they are doing is all voting in the contest?

Maybe a area and is not seen but for the members before a date where the voting is posted.

[Randis]

There should have been a voting guideline to follow. For example:

1 = This image is an absolute abomination of art. It shows no effort and took no talent. A few hours (if that) were spent creating this piece.

5 = This image is average. Not bad, but needs much more effort involved.

10 = There is not one mistake in this supreme piece of artwork. It is the prime example of talent and time well spent. It probably took a few weeks to a month to create.

Then fill in the in between ratings accordingly. You know, something along these lines.


1 = science fiction

5= reality

10 = fantasy


lol

guys relax, this is not the voting thread! all this ratings are done by the competitors them self and not judges or the public voice.
Artists rated each other down thats it.
someone give you a 1 you go someone else a 1 and so on and BAM all have 1.

everyone is a winner! come on!
so many artists pushed their work to a new limit, looking at all the pics you can tell that some of the pics are the best in their ports.
That already is worth gold.
All those who pushed and tried hard regardless of their skill level, even tho they knew they might not get the first place, all those people are the real winners for me.

Because that is what a competition is about.

It's not about giving each other numbers, hate or a pissing contest pr social status
its about earning respect with hard work from fellow artists, its about the race itself, learning from each other, working on your own mistakes, every one can join regardless of sex and social status, everyone is equal.
And if you do not win today, build a faster racing car, there will always be a next race tomorrow.

[The Illustrist]

well said randis :)

[Black Spot]

Thanks Randis. I haven't a hope in hell of winning, but it was real learning experience, and I learnt a new program as well. It was fun watching some of the pictures develop in the early stages.

Anyone who pulled out all the stops should be proud of what they did. You know how much effort you put in, and I bet loads of people learnt more about what they are capable of and surprised themselves. If that was you, I applaud you and look forward to meeting you in the next contest.

[NIRONERU]

indeed... I consider the piece I made a consolation itself... this contest motivated me enough to put my unpolished skill to whole new level, despite being armed with only a mouse and an outdated version of PS, I still managed to finish it nonetheless... thank you for cheering other participants, randis, you truly are an artist proven by both your skills and attitude...

[Marduc]

I totally agree with you Randis. I came into this competition knowing I would not win. This was the first painting I have done completely digitally. I learned (kinda) how to use Poser in the process. Also it was the first competition I have entered. I feel I have won no matter what, since I have learned so much in the process. Becoming a part of the Concept Art community has been a prize in it self. Doing this competition has given me the self-confidence to go to new heights. Randis, Crypt Crawler, Muttenhead, and Irawan you guys Rock!

[MoonChilD]

yes its good and all but sometimes you want to enter a competition to win it!!
(no?)

[Marduc]

Everybody wants to be a winner. Otherwise, whats the point? But being honest with yourself and knowing where your skill level is compared to others is how you evolve as an artist. Every time you create you learn something new no matter how trivial. It would be wonderful to win the contest but understanding there is more to be won than just first prize is the key to becoming a better artist.

[LillyCat]

So Randis, since it is not a big deal for you...you are more then welcome to send me your Wacom tablet when you win because my little cousin dropped and broke mine 2 weeks ago. lol JK

I feel the same way about the not careing as much about winning but I have to say with my tablet the way it is now...it sure would be the greatest just for that matter.

You are very kind with your words and you are super right that everyone that as entered and the ones that didn't get to finsh in time but still finshed their artwork all should be very proud! To be 100% truthful, this is the best contest I have every see on the shear fact that there are so many AMAZING pictures that has been entered.

Really... the best of luck to everyone!

Cheers

[TheDirtSyndicate]

well, i didn't enter to win.
i entered because i thought i had a good idea and could turn it into a cool piece. winning something would be awesome, but i dont think that'll happen considering the other entries. haha

[Randis]

If i were the judge i would give everyone of you the First place! i would have all of you win! Really!
and myself i would give the second place... and the tablet as a compensation :P

[miycko]

LOL nice one but seriously, this has been an awesome contest, i mean with just one post from Randis i was able to tranform my image to something i'd never even considered before. It's a great honor to be able to ineract with great artists like Lillycat, CryptCrawler, Randis & many more and learn from you guys. To be honest i feel like a winner just because i was able create something i'm proud to add to my portfolio.

[ladycrowe]

My initial goal with the contest wasn't to win (I figured I had no chance against the talent that drips from this place) but I still wanted to challenge myself to see if I could go beyond my usual fare. And, hey, randomly having something good enough to win a prize is always a bonus, right?

Not only am I proud of knowing I can push myself beyond my own limits, but I'm very happy that my piece seems well received in the final images thread and my confidence level had been boosted. All in all this contest has been a success whether I get a prize or not.

[LillyCat]

Miycko, MoonChilD and I can't remember all the names (still new here) You all have great threads for your artwork as well as wonderful paintings. You asked questions and showed step by step almost as you went along. That to me is one of the best things with this contest. You get to watch it like a birth of a newborn and I think that helps make it all the better with the theme. That is another thing you should be proud of :) It seems that the art you made for this contest really sets off your profolios to the next level.

As for the way I think when I enter in any contest...it plays over and over in my head if I would to win...would this be something I want to be known for or would this or that look good on a cover or front page? Would the text work with this layout or would the colors I am using work as CMYK printed? I guess I like to play as if I was doing work for a client lol

That is something that is great about contests..much like working for someone, you have a deadline and you have to do what they would want so you can make money.

[MoonChilD]

lillycat ,thanks you very much for your kind words.

for me anyway,it's clear that in such a contest,you have to show your progress as well as asking questions about if it's feel right or not ...not only it makes you progress but you are most of the time so much into what you're painting that you canno't see the obvious mistakes!
so you receive help and show your progress...it's a mutual relationship
and it's great.you try to respect the critics (that's a big learning for someone who wants to be a great artist )
then you can help other easily in that manner (it's so much easy to see the mistakes of others ,while you cannot see the tree that's growing into your own eyes:) )

you know,it's ironic to name a contest "newborn" when the process itself of making a picture out of nothing and show your progress to other fellow artists is a newborn thing in it's essence(a lot of artists here have used that idea for their concepts anyway:painting an artist creating worlds)

anyway the goal of all this is to become better and better share ideas and make something beyond what you could have expected in the first place.

so your post is good for me because i know i won something allready;i've shared what i've learn listening to others,helped and became better.

[riotorange]

already knew going into it that what i was doing pretty much would not fit right on a magazine cover or win.
But i do what i want cos im stubborn like that, and i challenged *me* to get something sculpted in time.
i don't mind not being up there with the truly excellent work, cos, yah! i beat my own self doubt about not being able to finish something. go me!!
i think i did a great job,for me at my own level,i'm proud of myself--- but i think others did much better all around,for everyone's level, ya know?
i dont mind sitting back &watching people win who are like cryptcrawler,muttnhead,randis or anyone else who made my jaw drop in this contest cos they kick ass and deserve a win.

i'd like a talent-staggered contest sometime on this site. lol All the kick ass people to the left...all the just about to kick ass people in the middle..
and the rest of those like me drooling/crying at everyone else's work and trying to get half as good as what we see to the right.

[Vaejoun]

So true.

This contest really pushed me to the limits. Always when I was thinking "I'm done" I put it into the thread, got reply and saw that there is still so much to improve... and so it went on. I even had to redo one piece completely. ^^°

Good luck to everybody, may the best win.

[MeBabyMe]

I agree, I did this contest mainly for the experience

[Black Spot]

I know my piece wasn't finished when I submitted it, but I will finish it for me.

[Artboy]

Thanks Randis, have to agree with the others for your words.

This was a great experience personally. Winning is always nice, but realistically being new to digitally painting and as Nironeru mentioned, using a very outdated PS and mouse, it was more about going against some of the great talent listed here and pushing yourself to get there. Looking at some of the artwork in here is very inspiring.

[hala]

a new tablet can't teach me half the things I learned from fellow competitors critting when I was updating my thread. My image didn't portray my idea at all in the end--but I sure as hell learned a lot along the way. I eventually forgot this was a contest and that there was a prize. I like it that way.

good luck to everyone :3 i enjoy looking at the art.
ratings mean at least they looked at your work :)

[NIRONERU]

indeed, I totaly agree, in this contest, for some reason, it is not the prize that became the center of our focus, but to make ourselves better than we are yesterday... this contest added a lot to our own experiences as artists and that is something that we can already consider as a prize...

[Adam Schumpert]

I just wanted to take an opportunity to tell everyone who participated in this competition, Thank you.

This competition saw the whole spectrum of skill and experience lvls from
beginners to pros, and it has produced so many creative interpretations of a
seemingly simple brief. It was a great learning experience for myself as I'm
sure it was for everyone else as well who was able to participate. Also, it
was so awesome to see so many people who where willing and eager to give
critiques and help to the same people they where competing against. It says
a lot about CA.org as a community, and I for one feel privileged to have been
a part of such a creative and inspirational competition. So, again thank you
all very much, and good luck to everyone.

Take care,
Adam Schumpert

[domjoel]

Cool prizes!!!! I wonder if I can win if I'll join this contest? hmmpp...

[oren90]

Cool prizes!!!! I wonder if I can win if I'll join this contest? hmmpp...

sorry to tell you this but the contest is over we're waiting for the judges to give their answer on who won this one :)

[ktkps]

When will the results be announced??? :-(

[MoonChilD]

in nine month.

[JosephKnight]

in nine month.

Oh wait, I get it.... nine months gestation period. Almost had me there.

[MoonChilD]

hehe...

[hala]

When will the results be announced??? :-(

please read the "and let the judges begin" thread--Yoisti and Jason update there about the contest. :)