The clockworksnail Experience- SKETCHBOOK!!!

[clockworksnail]

Hey!

Clockworksnail is Connor*** (16) and Kurt (16).
we're pretty new to this site, this is the first work of many to come,At the moment they are all varients of the same mech but later work will differ (mech created by Connor Trivett). As this thread was set up so that we could gain experience,all feedback would be greatly appreciated. just tell us what you think and how we can improve, thanks......

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UPDATE!
:gasmask: No more Updates from Connor, i'm not sure why, he's just not really interested anymore, I will continue the thread by myself tho :gasmask:

Please comment!!!

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[Giorge]

hey welcome to the site , starts good ... cant wait to see what youve got for us ... see ya

[clockworksnail]

Thanks, i was kinda worried no one would reply to this, was also kinda hoping to get some feedback before posting anything new, is this a bad idea?? :S

[Raúl.Arbeloa]

Post more dude! that was cool. It has some kind of realistic looking that I like.:D

[clockworksnail]

Hey - it's me (Connor).

I'm currently just messing around with Sketchup atm and I wanted to see how far I could push an architectural modeller seeing as I havent got the time at the moment to go into a deeper, more technical program. I'm also trying to work out how to use Kerkythea for the rendering but it's a bit confusing!

Thanks for all the positive comments and ratings.

[Krato]

Nice, i see you are also my age. you going to draw anything else besides mechs?

[clockworksnail]

Hey,

There will be more coming to this thread shortly, and definatly there will be more then mechs,...... i promise you this Krato!

ATM, my friend Connor is using a construction programme called Sketchup and uses his mouse to create the images like the mechs above,

i do alot of drawings myself, mainly just on paper, but i have no scanner and every photo i take of them just looks horrible. I'm getting a Wacom tablet soon tho, so after that there will be a fair bit more to this thread. it'll probly be crap to start with as i learn to use the tablet, but im seriusly hoping i will get the hang of it. I know i have no hope of competing with alot of the artists on here, but i can still try, and hopefully improve.

Rigth now tho, me and Connor both have aload of exams on, so nothing new for right now.

thanks,
clockworksnail!!!

[clockworksnail]

Well my favourite things are mainly vehicles of some sorts and I kinda love mechs (blame Gundam) and vehicles are some of the only things I can model that look interesting atm. I could do buildings - which I might try and I'm experimenting with some colouring so you dont have to be stuck with just brown or grey on my models :). Other things I might try is scenery, rooms and general architecture. Along with guns, machinery and other industrial thingies.

Curves are beyond me due to my tools and my skill.

Kurt has also pointed out that we have alot of exams on (about half way through now but they lighten up as of this friday) so don't expect regular updates. I'll try and only upload finished products rather than WIPs.

[Nibras]

Commmmmmmeeeeeeee onnnnnnnnn
Less talking more arting!
Im waiting

[cklipperx26]

Wow! great work, dude!!! :)

[tronik808]

nice job so far.

[LORD M]

Awesome mech, guys! I really like the leg-design, and I can't wait to see it textured if you gonna do that. Oh and thanks for commenting on my sketchbook, I really appriciate that. :)

[Kurt.Y]

I love the mech stuff!the second line render one is the best so far in my opinion~ it looks finished even without texture. keep it up and post more!

[Krato]

sketchbooks are for wips as well, so update

[clockworksnail]

Hey, so...
I realise i haven't done anything on this for aaaaaaaaaaaages, but the tablet took alot longer to get then i thought it would.

I havent really seen connor for awhile, im not sure whats going on there, so for the time being, its just me for this sketchbook.

This is basically the first thing ive attempted on my tablet, or on a computer atall. its pretty bad but im hoping i can improve with time and experience. i realise the beak is wrong and looks strange,....... but its a learning step.

feed back would really be appreciated.

thanks :)

[clockworksnail]

......... Just to keep with the 'updating' thing, this is a drawing i did,
iiiiiiiiiits a dragon, again, its not great, but hopefully i will improve.
its on A3 paper, just incase anyone cares?

tell me what you think, and how i could get better, PLEASE!

[Colt Seavers]

And here I am already!!! ;) I see you work with google sketchup. Looks nice!!! I recently downloaded this software, but as I'm a passioned 3D-modeler and have Blender and ZBrush, I was asking myself what use I could make of it at all. Now I see!!!:)

And you're into fantasy stuff too, I like that dragon, will it get colorized finally?


Greets, Colt!!! ;)

[clockworksnail]

umm, well i never really thought about colouring the dragon, i did it in pencil, so i shaded mainly, i guess i could give it a go at some time tho. i dont actually have it with me right now, my school have it... but when i get it back i will definatly look into it,
thanks :)

[alexson]

Hey dude thanks for your kind words in my SB, you have some nice stuff here in yours! Just keep at it with the digital painting with the wacom and you'll get the hang of it. Just need to get used to it.

[clockworksnail]

ok, so another update here,
My second peice of work done on a tablet. It's sposed to be an airship sailing thru the dusty cloud of a desert, past some kind of watchtower in the mountains....

...I'm not gona lie, its not good.
but i feel its abit better then the bird-thing i did before.
i still havent really learnt photoshop yet, but yer,...... its another step towards improving hopefully. tell me what you think plz?
(crits welcome as always)

[chuck18mp]

This is some really good mechanics you got there in the first posts. :)

[clockworksnail]

Hey,
another quick update....
... still no critique about my first digi's, so sad-face :( to that...

anyways, i'll try and get on and do more photoshop stuff when i have time, untill then you get this crappy sword drawn in different colours of biro!
(also drawn on A3)

[Mark Tarrisse]

Before getting in to digits, you both (?) should work more your traditional drawing, and after you get the basics, try to get slowly to digital. If you're traditional drawing and painting is good, you'll be more comfortable with digital art.
Keep up working ;)

[clockworksnail]

Mark Tarrisse : thanks, but its just me now,(kurt)

connor never really liked traditional drawing anyway, he prefered to make the 3D things and never intedned to get into painting.
i do tho, so yer, thanks for the advice. i do actually do a fair bit of drawing on my own, but i have no scanner yet and so do not post most of it.

[jatherip]

this mech in beginning kicked my ass! but i think you should try to get the structure down first, and then the details. i think sometimes you do it the other way round!?
whatever, keep goin!

[clockworksnail]

Hey,
Sorry i havent updated for awhile. bin doing drawings in a small sketchbook but at the moment i have no way of showing them. im trying to get a scanner tho, they were mainly anatomy and il upload them whenever i can, but for now......
...so....yer.... Third attempt at Digital!
i thought id try doing something that actually exists this time.
im open to suggestion on how to improve. at the moment i feel its somewhere between almost and finnished, so yer, critique me!
(Done in photoshop)

[clockworksnail]

Wasn't really sure if i should include this, its just a quick scribble and fairly pointless, but anyways, i have so you can decide what you think!

[LORD M]

Good going with the apple study, but I think you should try and push it a bit more with the darker colours. :)


Also, I don't speak for everyone but imo no scribbles are pointless. Keep it up! I want to see more!

Btw, are you studying any drawing books, example Loomis?

[clockworksnail]

@LORD M - Thanks for commenting, i was starting to think CA had forgot aboutme :)

i will try to further the apple like you said, i'l work on it in an evening where ive got abit more time, but thank you.

ive got many scribbles but im not really proud of them, i dont really count them as either work or art, they're more of something to keep me from being bored in lessons or at home....

as for loomis, ive bin looking, but the books are fairly exspensive. for the moment tho, ive got a book on anatomy that im looking at, but no scanner to upload what i draw and they dont really come out in photographs, il find a way tho,
thnks

[andres333]

you need to develop an structure before putting the details

[Gasbag]

Hey Clowckwork, thanks for being the first to reply to my sketchbook. I was really pleased to see how quickly I got any feedback, because as you said, I've seen how common it is to go update to update without any replies.

I like your apple. I agree with Lord M in that it could be a bit darker though. I've found that when something I've painted ends up a little washed out, it's helpful to do a quick value study- starting with a mid-tone, then adding some darks, and finally adding the lights.

Also, if you're looking for loomis, the out of print books will cost you a fortune. But the text should be available online for free public access in a pdf form. All you'll need is adobe acrobat reader if you don't already have it (it's also free in case you don't). A quick google search came up with this http://alexhays.com/loomis/ . It's got links to all his out of print books in pdf form; just click on the thumbnail and it should open, or right click and "save as" to download it. Hope that helps.

[andres333]

Hi clockworksnail
First of all thanks for your comment, second what do you mean with " i didnt really understand what you meant", come on...... My english is not that bad......is it?, anyway what I was trying to say is that you should first draw the intention of your drawing just with a few lines, after that you get into the structure, now what do i mean with structure?, I mean simple shapes like spheres, prisms, cubes, etc, that can be used as a base for your drawing, this way you avoid proportion and anatomy issues.

Got anymore questions?
By the way my painting is not so good because it's the first time I actually paint something, which means I know nothing about values, and that sort of things,......, besides I still have plenty things to learn about drawing itself.

Thanks again, keep it up!
take care my friend

[Colt Seavers]

Hi mate, didn't check your sketchbook for some time now. I see you're doing a lot of studies now, keep it going, that's the right way!!! ;) Looking good so far, but try to draw only what you really see and not give it an artistic look yet. And you do not need to color and shade that carefully.

Just go for it produce and if you have messed up a painting, simply start over again or do a new one. Btw, there are some really helpfull tutorials on youtube on how to draw and colorize fruits, check it out. Tags: digital painting tutorials


Cu, Colt!!! ;)

[Kungfoowiz]

Hey bro

I quite like your apple study, and as the others have mentioned perhaps look at the saturation of the shadow for your next piece.

Maybe blend in the outline of the airship, it seems a little sharp, and you could add more form as well to give it a bulbous look.

Keep at keeping.
Edward

[chrysshart]

Since no one else has commented on the airship, I suppose I will :D

You've got a good premise on this one, for sure. Since there is sand in the air, the watchtower beacon actually looks fairly good, though perhaps it should be a little brighter. The biggest issue with the airship itself is the positioning. The lines connecting the balloon to the ship should be taut and would be spread out more so that they more evenly support the weight of the ship. Under the vast majority of circumstances, the deck of the ship should be parallel to the ground, and so the side of the hull should stop lower and a small portion of the deck might be visible, judging by the apparent eyeline of the piece.
This is a very good start and for being one of your very first digital pieces ever, you've done very well. I look forward to seeing more.

[clockworksnail]

soooo, i haven't posted here for ages.
not like anyone missed me, but i've bin busy doing art at school. its kindof irrelevent tho, so not for this page.

anyways,...
@chrysshart : Thank you. i sort of thought, as no one seemed to notice the airship it must be terrible. i know it probly is, but thanks for the advice. im abit busy atm, but i will comeback to the airship later on. so yer, thanks again.

@Kungfoowiz : Thanks. The apple is one of the few things on this thread i am actually happy with. i know its not perfect, and i'll edit it later, but im pretty pleased with it seeing as i havent done alot on the tablet.

@Colt Seavers : Hey man, welcome back. i got to check on yours sometime soon. might have to check those tutorials. thank you.

@andres333 : hey dude, i'm sorry, i didnt mean anything about your english, im just thick is all :D
so yer, i get what you mean now, altho, personally, i dont tend to use shapes as much in my stuff. i know i probly should, i just prefer not to. i am studying anatomy, and since your comment, im working on linework too. il come see your SB some time. thanks.

@Gasbag : no problem, i enjoyed being the first to see your work. :)
and yer, im gona have to be bigheaded enuf to say this, but yer, i like my apple too :) i will edit it tho, whe ive got abit more time. i'll try and use what yourself and Lord M have said.
as for that link.......... :D i dunno what to say. just thank you, alot. il pay you a visit and see what your doing. thanks.

[clockworksnail]

This is just a quick something i did at school.
i originally drew out all the lines in an english lesson while everyone esle read 'cat on a hot tin roof', then photocopied my english book and coloured the photocopy in art using water colours. im quite happy with how it turned out seeing as it really is just an evolved doodle. what do you think?

[Colt Seavers]

Yeah, drawing during school lessons was my favorite thing back in the days. I was the cartoon guy, who had to provide new stuff for the class every day. The whole school, including most teachers did read my cartoons. Sadly I messed up my exam with that a little bit.

Oh, yes back to topic: Nice drawing and colors so far!!! ;) Will you continue on this one and fill the whole page?


Greets, Colt!!! ;)

[clockworksnail]

@colt Seavers you mean fill the page with doodles colt? :) im basically filling my book with them. that page actually has writing allover it tho, i just painted over it in white acrylic to make it look like mist/clouds, if u look close u can still see tho.

im lucky with my exams, i fell asleep in my english exam and still got a B, and if i'm honest, art is waaaay more important then an english exam anyway. i'll stick with my exercise books for now tho.

[Kungfoowiz]

It's a reasonable drawing, although I think it lacks a subject to focus on, as the creatures are all mostly of the same size.

I also think that you could paint a white colour wash in for the background first, before painting in the foreground parts.

Looking forward to your next piece.
Edward

[clockworksnail]

hey,
so, i cant exactly say i have frequent or regular updates. tbh i sort of just forget about this site sometimes. i do the work, i just dont upload it, i think definatly that a scanner would help......maybe for christmas....

anyways, just to prove ive bin studying......
i did these to try and get to know the human form better.
obviously ive still got a huge way to go.....
see what you think?

[Kungfoowiz]

These are ace man, your form is coming.

Some things to think about -
- Lips, try not to outline your lips, draw in the middle bit as an outline (the part where the upper and lower lip meet), and then suggest the upper lip as a darker part, and the lower lip as a lighter part. That should give you a better feel of lips.

- The arm - suggest more of a forearm, by making the forearm sweep around more to the wrist. I hope that makes sense. Also, try to vary your line width to suggest depth. For example, thicker lines are usually closer to us, whereas thinner (or lighter) lines are further away.

Hope that helps, let's see MORE-ish (tm)! No excuses now, it's your school break, aight!
Edward

[clockworksnail]

Hey, Kungfoo, thank for the tips, these are the pics i promised.

hey to everyone else...
im doing this as a sort fo half school, half personal project. i wanna kno which colour scheme seems best. these are just the first drafts, the plain kraken is a second draft (hint:extra tentacle) im planning to keep adding to it. critique and comments are really apreciated as always.

[Kungfoowiz]

Hey bro

I quite like the green one, it seems more evil than the others, if that's what you want a more evil looking creature, the green one seems about the best for this. All that pink wouldn't really scare people away, just a thought, use what feels best for you.

The detail work is great on these. Keep up the drawing bro. =)

[clockworksnail]

Hey kungfoo, (and anyone else who is looking)

so, i took your advice about the green. i tried to take it to another level, so i'm trying it on photoshop. i'm not done tho. it's a W.I.P. i think i genuinly need help with this because it doesnt seem to look right, so anyone comfortable with digital art... im completley oen to advice, critique and any comments.

Btw........... PINK???... ......NO!!!!
It was sposed to be red, but i didnt apply enuf layers of red watercolour!!!

[clockworksnail]

Hey,
so, quick update on the previous post. i feel this actually does look alittle bit better. aaaaaaaaany thoughts?

[Kungfoowiz]

Hey bro

Your colouring is pretty good, I couldn't do much better myself tbh.

What I would say is, if you would like to make a background, is to use the Magic Eraser (press Shift + E in Photoshop a few times, it's the eraser with a star next to it). Set the tolerance (on the Command panel at the top) to about 11, untick the contiguous option, and then click on the white background to remove the paper and background. Also click that grey bit on the top left.

Create a new layer beneath your line work and colouring. This can serve as your background. You could so some studies of some rocks, paint them in as blobs at first, and then add some shadow to them for the form, and then paint with a smaller brush to add some detail. Maybe paint in some water, you would also need to look at some reference for this.

Those are just some ideas, but I think the kraken creature which you've coloured so far is really nice. =)

[Colt Seavers]

Hi, funny creature that is, lol!!! ;) I'd try to make it a bit more plastic. You already began with some shading, but it doesn't match the geometric shapes this creature is composed of yet.

Check out some references and how light and shadows are set up. For example the body should have lighting and shadows similar to a sphere and the tentacles can be imagined as a row of cylinders. Maybe that helps. :)


Greets, Colt!!! ;)