ZhangLu and Jason Manley Digital Painting (Thread now contains teaser and art too!)

[Jason Manley]

Female Portraits 1. Here is the go link!! http://www.payloadz.com/go?id=777437

For those who wanted a teaser, there is a little bit to at least give you an idea. The video is full of info and the comments in the preview just give a picture of the kind of in depth topics are covered.


In this first in a series of portrait downloads for ConceptArt.Org, the artist ZhangLu paints a stellar series of portraits as Jason Manley provides insights into painting Caucasian females, portraiture from imagination, providing art history commentary, and basic theory regarding creating female heads from imagination. Topics highlighted include mood, expression and soul as well as technical matters.

About the Artist:

ZhangLu is one of China's top character artists and digital portrait painters. He currently works at Massive Black Shanghai as a concept artist and digital painter. ZhangLu is currently working on a multi-video series which supports the community and will help artists around the world.

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V.O. - Jason Manley
Music by BlazerFlame
Edited by Jacki Oh

[-Zer0-]

Yes! I've been psyched for this since you told me about it. I love you, Jason

[Hyskoa]

Wantone!

[hunchback]

:jawdrop:

[Dile_]

I'm heading out to sell myself so I'll be back later tonight with money :D <33333333

[FranciscoShreds]

OMG! I'm ready and waiting with my credit card. Just hitting F5 all day now...

[Jason Manley]

lol

You guys make me smile. Thanks for the support.

Hey everyone...please don't upload this to torrents. The money is going to support the community that ca earns. We need more servers and have some great new tech to install...including some new things that will improve this site for the better very very quickly. We really need the help to keep them off torrents.


Anyway...please do not upload to the torrent sites. It really makes a difference around here to not do that.

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

Ready and waiting with the credit card! Gonna be checking for this and Coro's tutorial every few hours now...

[Call0ps]

this is one of many reasons that makes supporting CA such a pleasure :D

[JohnMalcolm1970]

Nice..... PayPal at the ready :)

[Huey Yeng]

Wow great I've been waiting for this. Will be refreshing until it is available. :)

[kraal]

jason you really know how to prove a point :) you personnally ad the naration to this to prove how valuable this community and your efforts are

[Cam Sykes]

I'm downloiading about 8 other vids today with my birthday cash... hmm now that I see this think I shouldve waited a bit cos I spent all my cash now haha.

[Riiroi]

WooHoo Totally awesome!

[JohnMalcolm1970]

Dear Mr Manley,

Please find attached an invoice for repair costs caused by excessive wear and tear of the F5 function key on my Logitech G15 keyboard.

Yours faithfully

John Malcolm

:)

[Glory666]

I agree with the torrents, its not helping anyone, even the people downloading them. The more we support this community, the more its goin to flourish, especially with these awsum vids!:D

[Zeth09]

WOOT nice ;D sooo when tonight !?

[JohnMalcolm1970]

bought :) and downloading.... I cheated a bit and had a hunt around the Downloadz site

[Jason Manley]

http://www.payloadz.com/go?id=777437

bam!

[Brashen]

I cant find my card!!! I cant find my card!!!

Aaron please be working on Saturday please be working on Saturday please be working on Saturdaaay!!

[-Zer0-]

Sold! 5% and counting slowly~

[JohnMalcolm1970]

Wooohoooo... download complete... time to get the kettle on and take a break from illustrating to watch it.

Jason.... thanks for this and pass some thanks on from us to zhanglu

[Mock]

Wait... Jason Manley is an artist? I thought he was just MB's CEO. =P

What a fantastic thing to come home to. Downloading it now, I've been waiting for this one for a while.

Thanks Jason, Zhanglu, and the entire crew that makes these videos possible.

[Rabbi Satan]

Awesome stuff Mr. Manley! I'll be buying it tonight (I live in HK, so different time zones and such), once I ask my mother if I can use her paypal account, heheh.

Great stuff, as always. Always a pleasure to support CA.org.

And just a quick question - how are the planned online classes coming along? I am looking forward to those a lot.

Thanks :)


Edit:

Screw it, just rang and asked my mom. Already paid, downloading right now.

Thanks once again to MB and crew for everything.

[Devere]

argh broke at the moment, but will get soon as a payday comes around

[James Kei]

Wow. I just previewed this vid. Zhang Lu is a beast!
Well worth the $20 in my opinion, and I'm a harsh critic given that I do this for a living.
And to put things in perspective for you, I payed $125 per day at my art school and only got a small fraction of the information offered here in this vid.

And yes folks, please support the community by not uploading this tutorial. :yayca:

[tandy1000]

I've been anticipating this!!

[septomin]

I've been waiting for this for SO long. And it's mine at last!

[facosta]

Wow I just finished watching it and I must say this one is really great!!! For 20 bucks you do get a lot on this one. 4 videos, psds, great tips from Jason and lots and lots of inspiration. It's going to take many more watches to soak it all in.

Thank you Jason, Zhanglu and the MassiveDVD for putting this all together. Had been waiting for this one for a while and it was worth the wait!! Thanks for sharing!!

[FourTonMantis]

Wow I just finished watching it and I must say this one is really great!!! For 20 bucks you do get a lot on this one. 4 videos, psds, great tips from Jason and lots and lots of inspiration. It's going to take many more watches to soak it all in.

Thank you Jason, Zhanglu and the MassiveDVD for putting this all together. Had been waiting for this one for a while and it was worth the wait!! Thanks for sharing!!

Four videos?! I am indulging for sure. There goes twenty bucks off of tuition next fall. :)

I'm heading out to sell myself so I'll be back later tonight with money :D <33333333

You're going to sell yourself...?

[BlackGuy]

I've got no self-control with these...I just made another purchase. Thanks guys

[reme]

Thank you! I have been waiting for this!

[FranciscoShreds]

:00000000000000 IT WAS AMAZING!!!!

The idea of doing 100 heads is something I'll definitely do in the future. Thanks for awesome lesson as well jason. It really helped piece some of zhang lu's brushwork together. Definite buy for EVERYONE!

[Jason Manley]

I think there are a total of six recordings in that vid...granted there is one key image as the primary focus and discussion point but there is a lot of content included, no doubt. Multiple psd files too....as I think someone mentioned.

Really thanks for the support everyone. We are installing some new tools over the next couple weeks and picking up this vid goes a long way to us getting more done. Thanks. Really.

[Mock]

That was fucking fantastic.

Buy it. All of you.

[Iridyse]

Just bought it, downloading now. I can't wait!!

[-Zer0-]

Wow. That was amazing. There was some sort of mysticism to it all that made it feel almost ethereal and translucent. Definitely worth it, and highly inspirational. A lot of replayability in this one with Zhang Lu's many demos. Thank you Jason and all, truly.

[algenpfleger]

Bought it, downloading now whooooooooooooooooooooooo~

[HunterKiller_]

SOOOLLD!

[Jaku]

donwloading now! can´t wait!

[Theking78]

lol

You guys make me smile. Thanks for the support.

Hey everyone...please don't upload this to torrents. The money is going to support the community that ca earns. We need more servers and have some great new tech to install...including some new things that will improve this site for the better very very quickly. We really need the help to keep them off torrents.


Anyway...please do not upload to the torrent sites. It really makes a difference around here to not do that.

I've just purchased this one and it's on download now. I really want to thank you for having released this one in download form and I think that everyone should appreciate this and NOT UPLOAD MORE VIDEOS INTO THE TORRENT SITES.
C'mon people Jason is doing great for us, support him as much as you can!

[painto-]

awesomeness :)
i'd like to see more of these

[Huey Yeng]

Bought it. Downloading now. :)

[janni]

BOUGHT!!! :) waited for this one!

thanks jason, zhanglu and everybody else involved.

[Brushcommander]

I've been waiting sooo long for this. FINALLY! Thanks you guys :asskisser:

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

Wow. Seriously found it hard to believe that Jason was only talking for 30 minutes. I just finished a whole (very expensive) semester of head drawing, and it only covered a small part of the information in the video. Absolutely priceless stuff, and a fucking steal at 20 bucks. Great to watch Zhang Lu's painting as well, I'm gonna need to go hunting for more of his work.

Jason, seriously, it's great to finally get some straight instruction from you and I really hope there's more coming our way.

:cheerleader:

[petitemistress]

WTH? Brashen is buying with a lebanese credit card? HOW? LINK? someone?? who do I talk to? HELP! WANT!

Edit: omg ;-; my baby just bought this for me from his own cash... It's probably the most romantic thing ever, a CA tutorial as a gift... hee! :heart:
I still would like to know how Brashen does it tho... so you know, I can buy my baby a gift too?

downloading........

[Erishaham]

Been waitin' a long time for this. THANK YOU!

[SteFlack]

You can't beat waking up on a saturday morning to this. I also have the full weekend free to draw and paint too, couldn't be happier, thanks all.

[Rist]

ZhangLu has a lot of fans. I am sure this will be a popular download.

[Brashen]

WTH? Brashen is buying with a lebanese credit card? HOW? LINK? someone?? who do I talk to? HELP! WANT!

Edit: omg ;-; my baby just bought this for me from his own cash... It's probably the most romantic thing ever, a CA tutorial as a gift... hee! :heart:
I still would like to know how Brashen does it tho... so you know, I can buy my baby a gift too?

downloading........

Hahaha I have a special errm arrangement shall we say with MB!!

[UnidColor]

Looking forward to see this! currently downloading the huge file!=)

[Nrx]

There you got $250 of my hard earned cash, knowing that im not on my own learning art after lifting heavy boxes all day is so worth it

[Liz Edwards]

Ahh I can't resist, just take all of my money, all of it!

Downloading :D

[test8025]

Thanks alot for this Jason and Zhanglu!!! 谢谢您

[Brun]

Gonna download this tonight, thx again for doing these Jason

[Shard]

downloading this now..I fell in love with those ladies when i first saw them in the MB thread..
cant miss the process for this beauties!!!
keep rocking you guys!!

[Rist]

I really like this one. Was a little different this time because the artist painting was not the artist talking. Good to hear from you Jason. You need to be doing these a lot more, you have sound advice!

Really learned a lot from this one and I will put more work into my head studies (by including master studies and public sketching).

I was going to black too soon I think, I need to cut down on that shit.

Thanks,

[kraal]

ok now that i watched it here is what i have to say.... First whoever put together the intro to the vid BEAUTIFUL. that was some top notch stuff...... next Jason's lecture. I just wish i had an art teacher in college that would lecture like that. I mean he uses the 'art history terms' that cause you to actually learn and remember what they mean. The illustration is topnotch also. I also thought the psd files were going to be 'step by step' drawing of the main images but realized i was blessed with a mini portfolio :)

[BlackGuy]

the lecture was fantastic, the artwork was obviously amazing. I learned tons just by watching ZhangLu paint. I had one SMALL gripe and it's that having the music play while you were talking was a little distracting for me, and it kept taking me out of the vid. I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but I think it's more beneficial to have the music fade at the beginning of the lecture, and then come back in when the lecture is over.

[Rist]

the lecture was fantastic, the artwork was obviously amazing. I learned tons just by watching ZhangLu paint. I had one SMALL gripe and it's that having the music play while you were talking was a little distracting for me, and it kept taking me out of the vid. I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but I think it's more beneficial to have the music fade at the beginning of the lecture, and then come back in when the lecture is over.

I enjoyed listening to the background music. I think it helps the viewer immerse themselves with the video.

[petitemistress]

arg! how silly of me, I forgot to thank the people who made this vid!
At the risk of repeating myself, thank you so much to Zhanglu, Aaron and Jason!
the vid's a pearl :) yet another recommendation from me.

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

the lecture was fantastic, the artwork was obviously amazing. I learned tons just by watching ZhangLu paint. I had one SMALL gripe and it's that having the music play while you were talking was a little distracting for me, and it kept taking me out of the vid. I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but I think it's more beneficial to have the music fade at the beginning of the lecture, and then come back in when the lecture is over.

Heh, seconded on that. Wasn't a huge problem and I actually like the music, I just found it a bit distracting given Jason's very info-packed talk and 4 sped up videos going on simultaneously.

[Riiroi]

Wooohoo!! Purchased and downloaded and I must say that it was totally AWESOME! Great Job Guys! Screw Piracy!!!!!

[MeTaL-Mike]

that is awesome man!!! downloading now :D

[-Zer0-]

I enjoyed listening to the background music. I think it helps the viewer immerse themselves with the video.

I agree, I feel that the right use of music can make demos like these really immersing. Like movies and games though, it has to be done correctly, or it'd be too distracting. It isn't necessary in every demo or tutorial, but when used appropriately like in this demo, it just kicks it up a whole 'nother level.

Some of the songs in the demo are great examples of music being an art in a form of auditory expression. Combine that with visual expression via painting, drawing, and what not, it becomes bliss (at least for some of us). For me, it was like a nutella.

[Twitchfinger]

Great video! The painting itself was of course was of course amazing to watch, but the voiceover was extremely informative as well. Full of helpful reminders and advice. I'd agree on the music mixing in with the voice being a bit distracting, but it wasn't too bad. All the extras like the PSDs (not flattened, thankfully, I've never understood that one) were a huge bonus too. Highly recommend this download :)

[Arshes Nei]

Purchased - will watch after I can look up all these vb mods sent to me last week so I can see if they're any good

[hemP]

I enjoy buying things from this site.

[Grief]

just purchased and i am currently downloading...
can't wait to get off work and watch this, zhanglu's FF thread made me say "oh... fuuuuuck" aloud recieve dirty looks from everyone else in the room at the time.

i force myself to eat shitty ramen to afford these videos, and it's well worth it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ninjau1/grief3.gif

[Cam Sykes]

Gonna download this one today, I just hope Jason doesn't say "like" and "y'know" in every sentence, like a few of the otherones. No disrespect to those people it just makes me trail off when they're trying to get a point across.

[Flakari Leader]

http://www.payloadz.com/go?id=777437

bam!

When I first came to the thread, I was going to go and download it tomorrow.

Then I see this...BAM, DOWNLOADED!

[Dished]

OMFFFGGFFGFGFGGFG!

Thank you jason and zhanglu and everyone else who made this video!

...if only the stupid bank would process my paycheck already i can buy this!!!!!!

[Idiot Apathy]

:) Going to watch it tonight.

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Can't download this :(
have to choose- save and HOPE to have the cash for the workshop, or purchase download of awesomeness...

Right now I got... 30 USD saved for the workshop...which is somewhere around 4-600USD, but I need to hope for that.

I will get this vid, or the streaming of it, when money can be spent after the workshop (or me failing to save cash for it) has passed..

[Liam Harvey]

Thhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnkkkkkkk yyyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooouuuuuuuu

[Φ]

6 star stuff!!!! thank you!

[Rabbi Satan]

Quick question for Mr. Manley:

What kind of brush configuration is Zhang Lu using? From what I can gather, it's a simple round brush. But is it flow or opacity sensitivity (Maybe both?) Hard with a somewhat soft edge? Size sensitivty with minimum diameter?

Thanks in advance, and I loved the vid, really helpful. But I still need a lot of practice. I take it there will be more portrait videos in the future?

[Slash]

I loved this! My only gripe is that it wasn't my favorite of the pictures that was the main focus, i preferred the one with the cap to the right. ;)

Watching ZhangLu paint was a delight, and i didn't really have a problem with the music over the voice, exept in a few spots. The voice and music combo gave off a hypnotic "zeitgeist" vibe that made me lose concentration. But like i said, most of the time it worked just fine.

Thank you guys!

[Jason Manley]

Quick question for Mr. Manley:

What kind of brush configuration is Zhang Lu using? From what I can gather, it's a simple round brush. But is it flow or opacity sensitivity (Maybe both?) Hard with a somewhat soft edge? Size sensitivty with minimum diameter?

Thanks in advance, and I loved the vid, really helpful. But I still need a lot of practice. I take it there will be more portrait videos in the future?

The answer is use whatever brush makes the mark you want. There is no secret in the simple basic brushes. Need a transparent mark..change the transparency...need less flow...change the flow.

I dont mean to be curt...just saying. You can also pause the video when he makes his selections if there was a spot you are curious about.

Thanks for the support everyone. This helps with the server and new educational program stuff a lot and well..thanks..thanks..thanks.

[Smarty]

just bought it, can't wait to watch it. been working on heads alot lately.

[Soja]

OHH MANN!! Waiting for this so long! Just bought it and now downloading it!
Thanks so much Jason and see u in Germany!!!

[Ryuartyi]

If I can somehow get my hands on 20 extra dollars in the next few days, I'll be downloading this so fast. Right now all my money is going towards my credit card debt.

From what I've heard this sounds great. I can't wait to get my hands on this.

[DBMiller]

Excellent tutorial. He makes it looks so easy that I want to bang my head in frustration that I can't do it too. Who had the great idea to put the other sessions off the the side? Extra bang (not the same bang as above) for the buck!
I am SO glad these tutorials are still available for download, they are the best value anywhere!
I will always find the cash for these lessons, ConceptArt.org is the best.
DBMiller

[Smarty]

loved the vid, gonna go do another 100 head mission and 10 painted ones. was great to see his proccess. Especially how he kept turning everything down to work back on top of.

[kraal]

i just want to add a few things.
1 about the music i actually like the background music and i am sure if it wasnt present it would be needed:)
2 I was about to suggest more 'how to' info be added onto the next ones but like Jason said above ... it really doesnt matter.
again i want to thank Zhanglu for putting this together and Jason for all the words added just one question do you write this down or is it off the top of your head. So taking the advise of Jason and following the direction of Zhanglu i am heading to the amusment park today to look at faces and then draw from memory when i get home

[Pawkfox]

Finally!!

Only 1 though? C'moooon. What happened to your generosity? Quality over quantity?
I guess I wont say that with much meaning until I've actually seen the video but really.

I was expecting more. (Again, we'll see.)

.. is it them damn pirates? :((

[Adrian Wilkins]

omg I'm gonna buy this !

[Jason Manley]

Finally!!

Only 1 though? C'moooon. What happened to your generosity? Quality over quantity?
I guess I wont say that with much meaning until I've actually seen the video but really.

I was expecting more. (Again, we'll see.)

.. is it them damn pirates? :((



only one what? odd to say you expected more but have not seen the video. lol silly.

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Seriously...buy this one!

Jason, thanks for presenting the information in such an organized and easy to understand way. That makes such a huge difference! I love almost all of the videos I've purchased, but this one is a step above.

My only request: could you eventually do a vid that steps away from "ideals of beauty", and focuses more on creating believable imperfection from imagination? It's really easy to find reference for "beautiful" people from tv/magazines (I'm bored to tears with pretty people), and you can find a fair number of "plain" individuals walking about, but really interesting or "ugly" people are really under represented sometimes.

[zephyri]

One download purchased! You guys keep churning this amazingly helpful stuff out for what amounts to peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Each and every one's been a kick in the butt to get better, and I'm sure this'll be no exception. I can't thank you enough.

Does this mean we'll get an equally sexy male painting tutorial? *flutter eyelashes* Oh wait a mo.. I think I spy Jason Chan's decidedly male looking download on the banner. Crafty advertising.. that'll be next on the download queue.

[guggemmaneuver]

One thing that i'm confused about from the title of this thread:
Who is this mysterious "Yep Me" character that is mentioned above?
Top secret Hong Kong digital painting end boss? i'm very afraid...

;) hehe

purchased! thanks!

[Jason Manley]

One download purchased! You guys keep churning this amazingly helpful stuff out for what amounts to peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Each and every one's been a kick in the butt to get better, and I'm sure this'll be no exception. I can't thank you enough.

Does this mean we'll get an equally sexy male painting tutorial? *flutter eyelashes* Oh wait a mo.. I think I spy Jason Chan's decidedly male looking download on the banner. Crafty advertising.. that'll be next on the download queue.


At some point we have some male portrait and figure vids coming up. I have about half dozen or so vids going into the q for editing. Coro has his oil portrait coming up too. The boys will get their due.

[tensai]

I love how he paints with three brushes simultaneously hehe. ;)

Great download, one of the better ones if you ask me - and a good way to give some support as well. Very much looking forward to the Coro vid.

[Heliux]

One Of the better downloads on CA-can't wait to see everyone progress together! What makes CA so badass is the community, which would be nothing without its leaders.

*tips hat*

[Edward Cherniga]

Jason & ZhangLu, this looks beautiful. My birthday is coming up and {I think I am getting the new Wacom tablet}, I am going to get this for myself. I love to learn. Thanks

[Ketka]

Thank you Jason! thank you ZhangLu!
I happy see this video
and I happy little support CA
:drinkup:

[zephyri]

At some point we have some male portrait and figure vids coming up. I have about half dozen or so vids going into the q for editing. Coro has his oil portrait coming up too. The boys will get their due.

You just made me a very happy woman. :groupie1:

[Liam Harvey]

I have just spent more money than should sensibly be spent on these top notch downloads, and it looks to be that i am going to buys some more. Thank You.So much.

[Kamikazebob]

it may not be color theory but its an instant buy anyway. (dont hurt me)
Cheers gentlemen, I think this is the 4th dl of today :yayca:

[Puck]

Bought and downloading now. I've enjoyed every MB vid I've ever bought and the thought of sexy art and sexy ladies combined makes me very happy. Really looking forward to oil painting and more traditional techniques vids too.

Thanks for making these great resources available and inexpensive.

[Pawkfox]

Sorry Jason, But from what I could gather, it didn't seem like much.

Now I have spent my entire night to studying this video and my first impression was "holy shit"

This is probably the best DVD you guys have released.
I DID get disappointed when you picked the drawing I like least to be the main one. But you know, thats just my taste and opinion so its useless.

It still showed perfectly how he approaches drawing.. and the edge control. I mean jebus H. C. He knows -exactly- were to put the edges to make the most impact.

On another note, your voice is as pleasant as Andrews. Aside from the "umms" it was very enjoyable to listen to.


I've been noticing more and more how you start to give out these things in more parts.
And I'm concerned because that puts you pretty much in the same price range as Gn0m0n. While they charge you 60-70bucks for 4-9hours material.
You charge 20 for 1-2hours. And they give you everything at once, you give us parts of longer series which eventually will be "Portrait drawing: Part 1-4" Total cost: 80bucks.
(I hope you see where I'm going with this)

But I guess you guys have been having some serious issues with torrents and I really do understand that this must be a hell hole to keep afloat with all those bills..

I also understand why you would want to charge more, I mean in a "normal" society, why wouldn't you want more money? You're on top of the world in my eyes.

You really really provide beneficial value. And so far, (with one or two exceptions) It has been quality stuff. (The music in the BG also helps to make it enjoyable)

Anyway, I'm glad you made this dvd and I'm glad I bought it. I'll probably buy the next one too because Zhanglu and Chan now share first place in my top 5greatest artists.
I'm sure this DVD will help me get enough to pay for the next one ;)

Sorry for the long comment.

[kraal]

=
And I'm concerned because that puts you pretty much in the same price range as Gn0m0n. While they charge you 60-70bucks for 4-9hours material.
You charge 20 for 1-2hours. And they give you everything at once, you give us parts of longer series which eventually will be "Portrait drawing: Part 1-4" Total cost: 80bucks.
(I hope you see where I'm going with this)

.

i looked at that myself and also said that some times part isnt the right world cause truthfully most of these parts are stand alone also....james clynes recent dvd for example were like 60 bucks eack for a historical/futuristicand set design and they were in comming soon status for like ever... atleast with massive black you can get parts instead of waiting for the whole to be complete

[cmalidore]

Dammit Jason, I'm running out of money thanks to you guys ;). My girlfriend is currently laughing at my lack of self control.... even though I know she'll be watching with me....

Downloading now!

(this is my what, 3rd download this week - with the dos santos dvd shipping soon as well? Mmmm)

[zweiDee]

fantastic, one helpfull vid more in my mb collection! thx!

[BlightedArt]

I hate being a student, does anybody want to buy my left kidney (buy one get one free) so I can download this?



(Birthday money will save me this time)

[Grief]

On another note, your voice is as pleasant as Andrews. Aside from the "umms" it was very enjoyable to listen to.

and saying 'with' instead of 'width', but i forgive you because the information was a pleasant refresher, and the paintings were beyond beautiful. the comments about keeping a sharp eye in life at features and subtle nuances rang especially true for me, noting to keep in mind the what and why aspects of features.

let's get zhanglu going on a female asian protraiture vid. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ninjau1/grief3.gif

[Gloominati]

GOOOOOODDDDDD three more days to wait foer me till I have the money to get this one, I'm dyyying :D

[Ghostbrush]

Word, just woke up, saw the banner at the top, trashed my room looking for card, found, purchased, downloading now, its like christmas but way better.

Breathe...breathe

gotta go make some tea, watch the vid, watch again, draw some more


Thanks Zason/MB/ Zhanglu/anyone who made this possible, awesome education :yayca:

All the best

Alex

[Sickbrush]

oh crap, here goes the kidney..

[Jason Manley]

ok first ...thanks.

second...we have to do them in parts...would be a two gig file and some of these vids take months for the guys to get through...considering i got about ten demos total at ringling and paid tens of thousands of dollars for it i think twenty bucks is fair. the info presented in that eighty five minutes is enough for you to work on for months right? the reality is, if we sold them any cheaper ca wouldnt hit its obligations financially...they dont make a ton of money and with the torrent problem they really dont...so all the support is fucking huge for us as it keeps ca moving forward.

thank you.


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Sorry Jason, But from what I could gather, it didn't seem like much.

Now I have spent my entire night to studying this video and my first impression was "holy shit"

This is probably the best DVD you guys have released.
I DID get disappointed when you picked the drawing I like least to be the main one. But you know, thats just my taste and opinion so its useless.

It still showed perfectly how he approaches drawing.. and the edge control. I mean jebus H. C. He knows -exactly- were to put the edges to make the most impact.

On another note, your voice is as pleasant as Andrews. Aside from the "umms" it was very enjoyable to listen to.


I've been noticing more and more how you start to give out these things in more parts.
And I'm concerned because that puts you pretty much in the same price range as Gn0m0n. While they charge you 60-70bucks for 4-9hours material.
You charge 20 for 1-2hours. And they give you everything at once, you give us parts of longer series which eventually will be "Portrait drawing: Part 1-4" Total cost: 80bucks.
(I hope you see where I'm going with this)

But I guess you guys have been having some serious issues with torrents and I really do understand that this must be a hell hole to keep afloat with all those bills..

I also understand why you would want to charge more, I mean in a "normal" society, why wouldn't you want more money? You're on top of the world in my eyes.

You really really provide beneficial value. And so far, (with one or two exceptions) It has been quality stuff. (The music in the BG also helps to make it enjoyable)

Anyway, I'm glad you made this dvd and I'm glad I bought it. I'll probably buy the next one too because Zhanglu and Chan now share first place in my top 5greatest artists.
I'm sure this DVD will help me get enough to pay for the next one ;)

Sorry for the long comment.

[Rist]

The style which Zhu shows is both easy to get into but very hard to MASTER. I recommend anyone on the fence to buy this because it will take some time to get used to and I already see the benefits. This video really nails it on the head for value control and head construction. This technique works for both observational studies and imaginary, heck I bet it would work as well for still life as it would for portraits.

[Iridyse]

Actually I don't really get why people are complaining about the choice of the main portrait. I think that's one of the hardest angles to pull off convincingly and I'm really glad that that was the one chosen.If you pay attention you will see his technique remains the same in the other portraits too, so I guess in the end it doesn't really matter which one was picked to be bigger.It was super refreshing to see ZhangLu's process mainly because it is so different from my own.It's given me a lot to think about- the placement and pressure applied for each brushstroke, being sensitive to the subtle changes in value and edge, variation in features (I draw everyone like myself, apparently :( ).Thank you so much and I'm really really looking forward to more!

[XanaChama]

>< I need $20. LOL -- Damn art store, taking all my money!!!! I LOVE DOING PORTRAITS!!!!!! I'm getting this one :)

[Leo Ki]

Bought and watched it yesterday, and will watch it again a bunch of times in the future. Thank you guys! 高才! Will now proceed to buy el coro's storyboarding vid.
What are the time ratios of the main and side videos? Jason, your speech has best impact when slower.
Thanks again!

[Cam Sykes]

So happy, downloading now. Thanks to my dad, what a champ!

Edit: Just watched the whole thing, fukn great, tonnes of info and I think it's the kick-start I need to do daily self portraits, as well as master portrait studies.

Well done guys. Another thing that really suprisede me but worked so well is how zhanglu stayed in quite a midtone value range yet the forms still read perfectly and maintained realism. And also how he did not make the eyes the darkest part of the face.

[monsi]

joy-fucking-gasm. I've been waiting to be able to watch him paint since I very first saw his portraits a long while ago.

bought and downloading now! YERRR

[Mumph]

Bought and downloading now. Thank you very much for making these great videos!

[Frank Gressie]

Bought it! thanks CA/Massive Black for these great video's!

[Helltroll]

Its times like these I REALLY wish I had a credit/debit card.

[cdejong]

First download I've ever bought... it's downloading right now, I'm really really excited.

[Slash]

Inspired by the video:

680404

Thanks for the lesson and inpiration guys!

[Elsevilla]

Wow. I just previewed this vid. Zhang Lu is a beast!
Well worth the $20 in my opinion, and I'm a harsh critic given that I do this for a living.
And to put things in perspective for you, I payed $125 per day at my art school and only got a small fraction of the information offered here in this vid.

And yes folks, please support the community by not uploading this tutorial. :yayca:


Thats nice, cause i just paid for the jason chan video, luv his art and got many of his, of course paid, but he just random talk when he is painting, he doesnt tell something useful, like Charles bernad videos, which i think are the best ones.


Reading your comment, gives me another chance to get this video another try, hope got interesting tips. Going to buy it right now.

[Brashen]

Nice work slash...Still waiting on Aaron to send me the links haha not complaining the guy is an angel. Wait is killing me tho!!

[Pixeltuner]

raaaah, downloading as we speak. oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy :) Paypal ftw.

[HumbleHenk]

Me wants..

[Rinthe]

how can you preview the video?

[Jason Manley]

Inspired by the video:

680404

Thanks for the lesson and inpiration guys!


nice work slash...now only nine more to go and youve got the first assignement done. :)

[Jason Manley]

how can you preview the video?

Preview is not up yet..will try to upload today or tomorrow. Is a local holiday of sorts here in Austin this past weekend so our editor Miss Jacki Oh has been enjoying the sunshine. I think she is back now and Ill see if she can render it out today.


J

[Rinthe]

thank you!

[Smarty]

heres my third. Starting to make a bit more sense, need ALOT more work though.

[Arshes Nei]

On another note, your voice is as pleasant as Andrews. Aside from the "umms" it was very enjoyable to listen to.


Try public speaking sometime, it's really hard to eliminate the "umms" unless you go to coaching. That's also why people use "you know" and other placeholders as they try to say something in lectures.

It was a very nice vid Jason

[Jason Manley]

heres my third. Starting to make a bit more sense, need ALOT more work though.


remember what i said about STYLE...would that girl go out of the house with her hair in that condition?

:)

[Elsevilla]

Ohh my god, this video its so awesome, i just learned alot by hearing the narrators voice, this is a must have video for all of you people. Probably a lot of pros will know all of this, but in my small town never heard of any of this.

Been buying massiblack videos and i got to say this is the best one in learning i have tseen so far, that doesnt mean the rest are bad, but this one its just brilliant.

[Jason Manley]

KEEP ON POSTING YOUR HEAD PAINTINGS!!!!

That is the first assignment...ten of those!!!

:)

[Jason Manley]

Inspired by the video:

680404

Thanks for the lesson and inpiration guys!

Try some abstract mark making in your background...and maybe vary up the airbrush mark into a bit more of a natural shape. when i see that fuzzy round airbrush it screams photoshop. Also try varying the expression. the relaxed face is the easiest!!

nice edge play on the hair though slash. smart moves with that. watch out for equal rendering on the top of the head...the hair tends to have some natural abstraction happening and shape variation, even in the light and highlight shapes.

[Jason Manley]

heres my third. Starting to make a bit more sense, need ALOT more work though.


The features are a little big for the size of the skull. Try doing a free transform on the features and see if you can make them fit the head a little better. Also try drawing some skulls so you have the underlying structure better. and yeah..style the hair!!!

[petitemistress]

my first attempt, tho im not sure it counts since I ref'd Alesoun for it :) I made this while listenin watching through the vid for the 2nd time!
cross posted in the "draw from the WDELL thread" in the lounge.

[Jason Manley]

try a top down or top 3/4 light position. The underlighting is tough to get all the core shadows and shadow shapes right. a bit more details on the eyelids and lips will help...as will fixing the ears so they dont look melty...ears are important too!

why so sad?


:)


J


my first attempt, tho im not sure it counts since I ref'd Alesoun for it :) I made this while listenin watching through the vid for the 2nd time!
cross posted in the "draw from the WDELL thread" in the lounge.

[Brashen]

Can we like get his brushes :P

[Jason Manley]

He uses the same brushes that are in pshop. :)

[Brashen]

LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!! *Goes and plays in the corner.*

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Although I praised Jason in my last post in this thread, I really have to say that ZhangLu's painting method used in this vid is exactly what I needed to see. Finally getting something out of PS that looks comparable to what I could do traditionally. Admittedly however...I'm drawing an owl thing rather than pretty girls. >_>

[ovetto]

First :X
Thanks for the nice tutorial!!!
more work to be done :)

[Jason Manley]

First :X
Thanks for the nice tutorial!!!
more work to be done :)

not bad for a first attempt...spend a little more time on the background and the chest/neck too...let parts of the hair be soft and parts have detail...i think just being a little more caring with parts of it will help a lot.

[Chingwa]

Not to be a downer or anything, but is there a preview video of this that we can see anywhere? the price is a bit high, and I'm not saying it's not worth it, but just that it's a lot of money to put down when you really don't know what you are getting. I think having a preview video, even a short 30 second one would go far to expanding the sales of this video beyond the built in fan-base you have here.


--- edit ---
nevermind! duh, I read every page of this thread accept the last one.... can't wait for the preview.

[zeal]

Money well spent. Lots of good tips here and the video production was nice and high res.
The psds are a huge bonus! Thanks to everybody involved and Zhanglu for sharing the knowledge. Would like to see his work in color next time.

[Flipnastywebby]

i would say ya'll are gonna take me to the poor house with all the amazing vids you keep putting out but seriously this kind of detailed discussion about the inter-workings of the artistic process is worth every penny we have.....and the fact that ya'll are letting this kind of knowledge be sold for as little as it is.....man, i couldnt see how any one would put this up on a torrent.

sack up
spend the 20 bucks
...and the 15 for jchans new vid( thats pimp too)
sit down and take in some wonderful incite from the guys who do this on the regular
ITS WORTH IT!

[Beatnik]

Another dl added to the collection. Thank you! Looking forward to my first assignment

[Jason Manley]

cool

one of the features for the upgraded ca education program online will be assignments/grades/feedback from the pro doing it..so this is a nice little test to see how folks do. I dont have a ton of time but I am happy to crit the works that show up in this thread from time to time until we have the new systems in place.


jason

[arghmisfit]

here's mine..

Thanks alot for doing this Jason, and zhanglu for the painting! :)

[zhanglu]

Thank you all for the encouragement. I really love to paint the human figure and I think that if you work hard you can be a master of the art of portraiture. I am happy to see people trying my techniques and am glad there is learning too. You guys are the best. - Zhanglu

[Jason Manley]

here's mine..

Thanks alot for doing this Jason! :)


you are doing some things well..lighting is coming along ok...my suggestion is to look more at mood and who you are painting...she seems about 40 years old. Why is she pursing her lips? You must ask questions about it.

Also the eyes could be painted so they look both in the same point of space...one is slightly looking another direction.

also do not ignore the body and neck and shoulders


jason

[metalyst]

thank you, I look forward to watching, learning and putting into practice.

~ Joe Koch

[Noah Bradley]

It's nothing compared to what Zhang Lu did, but hey, I tried. ;) Had a ton of fun doing it.

681002

To anyone considering buying this download: hurry up and do it! It's great, informative, and inspirational.

[DEVARSHY]

Hey Jason !

Here is a GREAT GREAT FAN and supporter of yours from India!

And I don't really know how to thank you for ALL you've given me in life and my career by means of ConceptArt.org and Massive Black and All the Tutorials and Forums and All the rest!
It was you and your community thats responsible for changing the direction of my career from being a Fashion Designer to the Digital Artist that I'm now !

One small small way to thank is to Buy your Vids..... which I'm just downloading ... This is More because I feel soo soo indebted to you , and Andrew Jones, and Feng Zhu and Zhang and the entire community rather than the real need for the tutorial. I know I'll end up learning more from your videos than I'll ever learn from any Long term college courses or years of working experience.

Can't wait for the Download to finish! I Love painting Human Potraits and wanna learn more from mavericks like you ,Jason and Zhang.

Thanks, and in Hindi, BAHUT BAHUT DHANYA VAAD !

[Gloominati]

downloadingitdownloadingitdownloadingitdownloading it........

[Calamitous Maelstrom]

I enjoyed this and was pretty informative.

I'm kinda disappointed that there is no hi-res/psd of Portrait Caucasian Female 7_image_jpg though.

[Baze]

I just wanted to say thanks for providing such valuable information! Very inspirational and being able to see how Zhanglu works was more than worth money.

[Jason Manley]

It's nothing compared to what Zhang Lu did, but hey, I tried. ;) Had a ton of fun doing it.

681002

To anyone considering buying this download: hurry up and do it! It's great, informative, and inspirational.


The feeling of light is a bit...it could use some adjustment. try playing in the levels in pshop and see if you can capture the value range of light and shadow better. You may want to also try some reflect light...anything to help with the feeling of luminosity. It is almost like the light is the wrong value for the shadow strength...if that makes sense...

The other thing to pay attention to is the feeling of life and soul. look at her entire face at once..and read emotion..dont look at the separate parts..look at the whole thing...what does that feel like inside? If you cant quite feel something from it then adjust based on how you would like it to feel..how you would like people to see her mood to be. Also the forward eye seems a bit dark compared to the far off eye..great move on atmospheric perspective though..just dont be afraid to put dark darks in the background too...can always soften them down with edge play for atmosphere to balance it out.

[Claudio Grassi]

I finally did it! got me paypal account and purchased my first MB vid! *_____*
Im sure Ill have to get 3 more jobs to afford all the other ones, but it's totally worth it!!!!
thanks MB!!! :yayca:

[Iridyse]

Had some free time at work, thought I'd give it a try.Was fun! Many more to come! :D
I'm going to go home and watch the vid again now.

[Brashen]

Iridyse=sex

I want this video ahhhhhhh.

[cesmls]

Iridyse,

Oooohhhhhhhhh, that's nice!

[jlward]

Hey Jason or anyone who has seen the video,

I know that the artist is using Photoshop, but would this video be useful to people working traditionally as well? Is it predominately about using layers, brushes. and stuff like that or does he speak about using lighting, mood, and anatomy type stuff that's useful for anyone? Thanks,

John

[-Zer0-]

Hey Jason or anyone who has seen the video,

I know that the artist is using Photoshop, but would this video be useful to people working traditionally as well? Is it predominately about using layers, brushes. and stuff like that or does he speak about using lighting, mood, and anatomy type stuff that's useful for anyone? Thanks,

John

Definitely. I don't have a wacom tablet at the moment since I'd given it to my younger brothers, but it was highly relevant to methods in general. Jason speaks about lighting, mood, and head structures rather than Photoshop techniques. This is usually how most of the demos are. There's always something to get out of it more than just program techniques. Either way, it's also, in my opinion, highly inspirational, so there's more to gain from it than just education.

[petitemistress]

jiward -

The info Jason gives throughout is of a "fine arts" background, focusing on canons of portraiture and some art history. You would benefit greatly of this as a traditional artist imo... BUT if you want to wait, Coro has somthing gewd in the editing room it seems ;) his vid about Portrait painting (trad) should be out soon ^^

[Jacob Kobryn]

Zhang Lu (? - 216) was a warlord during the Three Kingdoms era of China. After his grandfather, and then father, he was the third leader of the Celestial Masters, a religious group. He controlled a state in the Hanzhong region, which he had named Han'ning (漢寧) until 215, when he surrendered to Cao Cao, who he would serve until his death one year later.

or

Zhang Lu (Chang Lu, traditional: 張路, simplified: 张路); ca. (1464-1538 ) was a Chinese landscape painter during the Ming Dynasty (1368–1644).

Zhang was born in Kaifeng in the Henan province[1] . Zhang painted landscapes and human figures in a free and uninhibited style.

:)

[ben-ten]

Thanks, Jason and Zhanglu. You both are my inspiration and teachers.

Here's my old work. Done in 1 hour with pencil and Photoshop. I hope, these lessons will improve my knowledge.

[Noah Bradley]

Thanks for the crits, Jason! Helpful and spot-on. Rather than try to fix that one up, I worked on another one. Slowly getting towards those 10 portraits. ;)

681281

[Rist]

Looking at some of these makes me want to try some female portraits (using the info for self-portraits at the moment).

[EVIL]

purchased, watched at work, awesome!

[German-s]

downloading this when I get home from life-drawing tonight =D

[Smarty]

ha lovely heads guys, I'm saving mine up for 10 then ill do a big poop in here.

[Edward Cherniga]

I finally found time to watch this, in the wee hours last night.
It has solid information for artists of every skill level. I personally found it helpful to watch the traditionally trained ZhangLu, as he painted the most beautiful pictures in digital form. I did not expect the valuable information regarding exploration of the subject’s inner world, since it is not discussed nearly enough and perhaps many artists miss the importance of this step when creating figures from imagination. There are also fine tips on being an artist. Jason is easy on the ears and the soundtrack choices were perfect. Thank you.

[Liquidpope]

Downloading now, and I'm quite excited.

Thanks, guys!

[Theking78]

Here it's my first one after watching this video! Freat inspiration from both Jason words and Zhanglu paintings... .PSD files have been a big bonus too!, Really appreciated!
Again thank you Jason Zhanglu and MB!

http://www.abboart.com/Z-BOS/Portrait.jpg

[Arshes Nei]

One thing I noted (looking at a lot of these pieces) but I don't remember specifically mentioned but implied when he mentioned studying Sargent is that I think a lot of people should also look up articles on edges and edge control. While simple observation of real objects help, one thing I noted with Zhanglu's works is a very practiced and designed sense of edge control.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51913 was by Elwell that talked about that practice. So not only keep in mind Jason's lecture, but using this to understand when you paint will help your overall piece too.

Look at Zhanglu's pieces and look at the articles on edges...why did Zhanglu make a hard edge in some places, softer in others? What effect did it have on your eyes, what did it do to the personality of the character he designed?

[Twinkie]

So not only keep in mind Jason's lecture, but using this to understand when you paint will help your overall piece too.

...Why did Zhanglu make a hard edge in some places, softer in others? What effect did it have on your eyes, what did it do to the personality of the character he designed?

She makes almost as fine a point as Zhanglu & Manley make a DVD.

[Brashen]

Downloading now...holy crap 600 mb lol

[Jaco521]

Watching now . . . . .

Another great tutorial - thanks, guys!

[Muz]

Very very nice and helpful vid guys! :).

Hmm with all that makeup i would love to see a girl on these boards do a big write up on what sort of makeup there is how it is applied and what it is supposed to do. I mean us guys can learn a lot by just looking, but i think a lot would appreciate from a deeper understanding. But then again perhaps i should just go google it :D.

[kraal]

my wife just brought an expensive make-up kit from them mall... they included a how and why dvd... i think you can ask for the dvd for free.

[Jacki OH]

Thank you so very much. That was almost /precisely/ what I was going for. Zhang Lu's digi-paintings engrossed me.. even without any music, I was sure I was lost floating into the abyss of a charcoal dustcloud. xOHx :eyecandy:

Wow. That was amazing. There was some sort of mysticism to it all that made it feel almost ethereal and translucent. Definitely worth it, and highly inspirational. A lot of replayability in this one with Zhang Lu's many demos. Thank you Jason and all, truly.

[Muz]

kraal lols... i had that coming :D.

[kraal]

actually that wasnt a joke about the make-up. the dvd explains what colors foundation and base color for eyes. even match this color blush with that color lipstick....learning the basic is something that is interesting when you start to think why one girl looks so beautiful in make-up and another looks like she is headed straight to the red light district to make a quick buck

[Jacki OH]

Seriously, I still eat that shit.. WTH is wrong with me?!?

xOHx

just purchased and i am currently downloading...
can't wait to get off work and watch this, zhanglu's FF thread made me say "oh... fuuuuuck" aloud recieve dirty looks from everyone else in the room at the time.

i force myself to eat shitty ramen to afford these videos, and it's well worth it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ninjau1/grief3.gif

[kraal]

hey i eat it too... with butter bread. but tommorow i will post some of my sketches inspired from dvd

[razimo]

1:30, I downloaded the video, I watched it in awe, I had to try it, I just had to. The alarm which calls me to gainful employment shall ring at 6:30.

OH WELL. This tutorial was every kind of awesome, and I'm not sorry in the least.

I made a stab (literally, an inept hacking motion.. by the very gods, I feel humble after watching that!!) at 'transposing' the information in the tutorial to suit a male subject.. more hard edges, mostly; I tried to resist the urge to do what I usually do, which is put lines everywhere. (I love lineart.)

It's hella wonky, but... 1:30am, and.. erm, yeah. Bed.

Much love for this tutorial! I shall watch it again tomorrow!

[aaro_n]

great tutorial, zhanglu is an amazing draftsman. the information was heavy too, great stuff big daddy manley. Here are the first two..

[Mantillman]

Alright, what files should be included in this download, because I have 6 PSD files, 10 images, and a mp4 video that will not play, nor will it download the codec properly. I'm not satisfied, someone help.

[Iridyse]

Try VLCplayer? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[Theking78]

Alright, what files should be included in this download, because I have 6 PSD files, 10 images, and a mp4 video that will not play, nor will it download the codec properly. I'm not satisfied, someone help.

I think the .rar file you've downloaded is corrupted. Try to download it again...

[Brashen]

lol watching it right now

[Mantillman]

yeah, I just had to download another mp4 player. everything's cool.

[Baze]

Well I tried, lol. This is my first attempt at a fictitious person with no referance. I can't beleive how much I picked up from this download! By the way Jason, I love you avatar!

[MeTaL-Mike]

damn that vid was good. to see this guy work...ohh man!!!
I liked the idea of 100 heads Jason was talking about. am totally gonna go for it.

Jason, are they supposed to be from imagination or studies from like photo's or ppl?

[Jazz]

Man, I didn't even get to watch the video, but the images inspired me enough to draw a head! ...It's in pencil and I can't scan it, but I'll have to show it off over the weekend!! :D I'm amazed too, I just did it by imagination and possibly facial memory (I'm not counting on the memory part as much, though *snort*).

[XanaChama]

The video is very intense. That is, I feel like it's almost overwhelming with the amount of information you're giving us just in the first 10 minutes. Some of it I already knew, but it felt new in the way you were presenting it and also felt I should probably take notes the second time I watch it just so I take it in better. It's hard not to watch the multiple renderings and lose track of the narattion. Not only does it make you want to try sketching along with it, but you realize there's so much going on with the narration, that I found myself rewinding a lot... this is certainly not a bad thing, but I'm glad this video isn't live!

[squidmonk3j]

another amazing release!

thank you, guys:)

[fersteger]

Dope! One of the best things about these downloads is getting the .psd files. It helps so much to study up close the marks and the actual brushes used and all the surface. It's like being allowed to get your nose up to the work at an art museum without alarms going off.

We usually just see jpgs which blend and blur the pixels. I was studying zhanglus's pics from online and couldn't tell how he made marks. But now with the .psds I see that it's all pretty much one brush at smaller and smaller sizes and subtle value change and can see how the values are put down and with what kind of strokes. So much info there.

Makes me think if people did master copies of this work you could really develop good techniques because in these files you can really see each visible brushstroke and tell what about it makes it work. Where copying from oil painting to PS you have to translate things differently. Anyways good stuff!!

[Mantillman]

Wow I just finished watching it and I must say this one is really great!!! For 20 bucks you do get a lot on this one. 4 videos, psds, great tips from Jason and lots and lots of inspiration. It's going to take many more watches to soak it all in.

Thank you Jason, Zhanglu and the MassiveDVD for putting this all together. Had been waiting for this one for a while and it was worth the wait!! Thanks for sharing!!

Uh.. Dude, there aren't four videos. What are you talking about?

[kraal]

4 videos = 1 main imagfe and 3 small images playing at the same time...

[plundh]

Some suggestions to the people doing portraits: Two of the main technical elements which zhanglu handles so elegantly in the demo is structure and edges.

Look closely at his heads and notice how many straight lines (or shapes rather, not outlines) are used. They are deftly placed there to emphasize structure. A real human has no straight lines, but lines are one of the tools the artist uses to create as strong an expression as possible. This is one of the elements that can make a painting better than a photograph. The ability to do this though, depends on the capacity to identify all the little shapes and volumes and know what to emphasize. Look at Aaron Coberly's gesture drawings for a great example of structure. (http://picasaweb.google.com/aaronpaint/Gestures08#)

Another thing; hard edge does not equal high value contrast.

Notice how in "female 10" there is not a hint of an outline anywhere. It's just edges with different degrees of softness:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2038/zhanglueye.jpg

This is one of the realizations that has helped me a lot in drawing. I recall attempting to draw a portrait of someone where half the head was in shadow, and I was straining really hard to see the shadow side so I could see and draw the outline around the eye. Then I remember Richard Schmid saying "Don't paint what you don't see!". It was so obvious. There were no outlines anywhere.

[Ashrumm]

Great download. need not say more.

[Jacki OH]

There are actually SIX total Zhang Lu renderings included:
1 main, the smaller middle video and then the top and bottom each are about half time and switch into different ones (4).

THAT'S A LOT HUH?!

xOHx


4 videos = 1 main imagfe and 3 small images playing at the same time...

[Jason Manley]

Well I tried, lol. This is my first attempt at a fictitious person with no referance. I can't beleive how much I picked up from this download! By the way Jason, I love you avatar!


Not bad for your first try. You need to study the way the neck attaches to the head and also some skull studies will help your underlying structure (like the cheekbone area for example. Keep up the good work.

[Jason Manley]

great tutorial, zhanglu is an amazing draftsman. the information was heavy too, great stuff big daddy manley. Here are the first two..

nice personality studies...lighting can improve. But you are getting the points about putting some character and soul into the portraits. Keep it up!

[Jason Manley]

nice start...its looking a bit airbrushy...and could use some modulation of the bigger forms (the back and such) as it is a bit overly simplified...but nice stretch moving toward males with the info.


1:30, I downloaded the video, I watched it in awe, I had to try it, I just had to. The alarm which calls me to gainful employment shall ring at 6:30.

OH WELL. This tutorial was every kind of awesome, and I'm not sorry in the least.

I made a stab (literally, an inept hacking motion.. by the very gods, I feel humble after watching that!!) at 'transposing' the information in the tutorial to suit a male subject.. more hard edges, mostly; I tried to resist the urge to do what I usually do, which is put lines everywhere. (I love lineart.)

It's hella wonky, but... 1:30am, and.. erm, yeah. Bed.

Much love for this tutorial! I shall watch it again tomorrow!

[Iridyse]

Sorry, don't mean to spam here but I have been SO inspired after watching the video! I need to go back and pay more attention to the structure and edges...but here's Noe, from reference.

[Jason Manley]

Sorry, don't mean to spam here but I have been SO inspired after watching the video! I need to go back and pay more attention to the structure and edges...but here's Noe, from reference.


Keep it up man..this stuff is awesome..looks just like her too. Beautiful.

Keep it up keep it up go go go!

hehe

[Jason Manley]

ASCYTV9FAjk

For those who wanted a teaser, there is a little bit to at least give you an idea. The video is full of info and the comments in the preview just give a picture of the kind of in depth topics are covered.


Jason

[courtyard]

Thanks for the preview--downloading now. Thrilled to support the forums.

[Dark_Eyes]

Just ordered... CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH!! LONG LIVE MASSIVE BLACK!!! LONG LIVE CA.ORG!!!

[spaztastic]

damn I couldn't wait any longer, I had to get it now. so well no more makeup for the month... well maybe two more eyeshadow's... damn you marykay!!!!

[spaztastic]

damn an hour to download.... well I am gonna go to sleep then.

[Noah Bradley]

Very humbling posting these with all the other great work... but hey, I'll get there someday (hopefully). ;) Third one!

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[Studio Colrouphobia]

Birthdays are great. Got this one as a birthday gift ( in a few days) from my cheapskate parents who thought it was better to get the video then cough up some cash to help me get to the workshop, so whilst I might not be able to go to the workshop at least I got this video and helping CA out in the meantime. Downloading as I type this.

[courtyard]

From imagination...please rip it apart. (haircut= I couldn't remember how to draw ears :D) Thanks so much for this vid, guys.

[Chris Noeth]

I have just bought it and the download is running right now.
I hope I can watch it tonight.

Best,

Chris

[Smarty]

ha did 10. Think I peaked in my learning around the 6 mark. The ones after were fun to do but i think i need to do some other head studies and come back to it in a couple of months.

[Kan Muftić]

I don't think any of the vids so far has had such an impact.. Keep producing those mate, we'll support you allright.:)

[RyerOrdStar]

This is true! His work is just so simple and striking that it just makes you want to try it. Plus you think you can actually do it because it's in b/w. Besides, who doesn't love hot chicks? :P

[Brashen]

Other hot chicks?

[Pawkfox]

Oh we can do this now?

A portrait I did same day. (was up all night watching)
(on my laptop though. I bet the values are really strange on your monitors)

Oh by the way, When's the next one coming?

[greta]

I found the information and advice given in this video fantastic. A perfect companion to the art. Thank you.

[Serpian]

Hey Jason! You mentioned earlier that you might stop doing the pay-per-download stuff altogether, does this stand? More specifically, should I buy this now while it's still available, or could I wait until it's more suitable for me?

[Mumph]

Damn, that was an inspirational video! I learnt a bunch from watching and listening, as I always do from these videos. Thank you very much!
And here is my attempt at a portrait from imagination (and a bit help from the mirror for some shadows and stuff :) ). Critique would be great!

[Brashen]

had fun following Zhanglu's style....a lot of mistakes on my first try but good learning experience. Thanks MB and thanks Zhang!!

[Smarty]

pawkfox- try not too flatten all your shadows into one value range.

mumph- your brow looks a little too prounounced which is a very males characteristic

brashen- good start, some of your edges could use softening in places and the nose is a little too big and low.

[Pawkfox]

pawkfox- try not too flatten all your shadows into one value range.


Not sure what you mean..
The portrait could use some more highlights and "pop"
But I had a 2hour deadline. (Decided to not spend more time on it)
Will continue with the 2hr deadline. (or so I thought, HAH.. had too much fun)
It's going to take me a while though, I hate drawing hair from head so Im gonna do some research on hot women first :P

Speaking of hair, I absolutely LOVE Zhanglus way of rendering it.. (or how he -doesn't- render it.) He just makes some loose strokes, adds detail to the right place.. and then it looks amazing.. WTFFFFF :D

[RyerOrdStar]

Hey Jason! You mentioned earlier that you might stop doing the pay-per-download stuff altogether, does this stand? More specifically, should I buy this now while it's still available, or could I wait until it's more suitable for me?

Yes please can you answer this Jason? I'd like to know too!

[Brashen]

Thanks smarty!! I was trying to keep his quick stroke so i wasn't paying attention much...idiot will do a better job next one round now i gotta feel for his work.

[Noah Bradley]

Yet another one. Must... keep... practicing!

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[Pawkfox]

I made another one :O Last one I'll post in this thread.
This time without any reference.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Maiku-/thingy2.jpg

[sfa]

Great video Jason. Thanks to you, Zhanglu and MassiveDVD for all your hard work in putting it together. Really bang up job. We waited a long time for it and it was well worth the wait.

I can't help but be pleased to see a video that focuses so much on the classic fundamentals of draftsmanship. To me, it seems Zhanglu isn't doing anything particularly different from what one would do with a charcoal pencil on newsprint - in fact, the early block-ins using angles and straight lines to define the general head shape comes right out of Bargue, and using soft marks to indicate placement of the features is exactly the same method we practice at the ateliers and private art schools down here. I loved watching his process. No tricks, no gimmicks, just straight up solid drawing. His portraits remind me a lot of the pieces I've seen from students at the Repin Academy in China, which should come as no surprise considering his background.

There is a wealth of information and guidance here to be found in the video, and can be gleaned from anyone patient enough to ask themselves the question "why?" What is the reasoning behind Zhanglu choosing to make that value darker or lighter? Why did he make this edge soft or hard compared to that edge? Why is he choosing to emphasize detail there but simplifying here? I figure you can probably get a semester's worth of head drawing tips in this video if you keep asking yourself why as you watch it over and over again. Not a bad deal for $20, I'd say!

Anyway, here's my first attempt. I may tweak it more, but eh, I've got work in a few hours and I really should get to bed. Nine more to go from here. I spent a lot of time getting used to his method and configuring the default brush, but once that was out of the way, it was just a matter of playing around and having fun. This isn't completely out of my imagination - I referred back to Zhanglu's pictures for ideas on mark-making, composition, and technique - but a good 90% of it is. From someone who studies mostly with a model in front of him and is often a bit timid about drawing without one, this was a really good exercise for me to go through... so, thanks for the push. I learned an immense amount from doing this.

Looking forward to the next line in this series. Thanks again.

[Smarty]

SFA thats beautfiful

[Twinkie]

I would like to comment on the text at the end of the teaser about CA. If this site weren't a free place, it'd be like CG Society or any other charge-per-account site of professional or pseudo-professional pomp. This site would be cold and comparably unpopular to whatever the new CA was, because there will always be a site for the people, that is: the poor artists.

Because the funds to these videos are needed to make changes, update the servers, et cetera, they are like a fundraiser in a way, considering the rest of the site’s relatively free. But don't confuse patronage for loyalty or sentimentality. If CA were to become a taxed website, it would all but collapse overnight. The heart, that is: the poor artists, would "jump ship" and doubtless commune together elsewhere, somewhere that was newly "for the people" or "for the community" as this site currently is (and hopefully always will be). The people will always go where the grass in greener (or freer).

This is not intended to be an attack on this website’s recent expensive habits, but an account from my perspective on the future of the internet. If Jason Manley is for the people, he will eventually make these videos free to the unfortunate who can’t afford them or someone else might put them in a torrent because that’s the way these things tend to go.

By mentioning the FBI, Jason (or whoever wrote the text this comment is concerning) seems to be attempting to constrain people by coercion, scaring us by threat of imprisonment into not reproducing this work for communal availability. Although I believe in CA and have purchased many of its wears (including Jason Chan’s great and inspirational tutorials), this coercion is ill-advised because CA is making clear their standing against freedom of information.

In the text this post is concerning, there is mentioned scholarships. If truly scholarships were the aim of these videos, they’d certainly be free, including an address to donate to as means became available to the individual.

I can only hope this post doesn’t rub anyone wrong. If a torrent of this pictorial lecture becomes available, it would be a matter of judgment of means and morals before anyone downloaded it. I’m simply sharing my opinions and concerns and would invite Jason Manley to respond at his leisure.

[RyerOrdStar]

There is a lot of information on this site that is free. If you search through the site, the professionals here have probably given all the advice featured in the video in their posts at one time or another. But you cannot expect them to give away a product for free that took much of their time and that goes above and BEYOND what the site offers as a base. These videos are good, yes, but they're nothing exceptional when compared to the gracious time and effort the professionals have devoted to helping newbies in the lounge or critique centre, so if some people want to buy extra videos for themselves, it is their prerogative and CA has every right to charge for them to maintain the site where that free advice is given! I can only imagine with the new FREE art cataloguing service how high the costs for bandwidth are now. Not to mention that these people are ridiculously busy with their own jobs and yet still find the time to make videos for us for a VERY reasonable price. As for the FBI warning, is it not reasonable to want to protect their investment, which is for the good of all of us and should be rewarded accordingly?

[SaiVix]

Gah.. I want to get this so badly.. But, im saving up money to replace the Wacom that was stolen... Can somebody message me with the best pointer that they got from the video?

[Cam Sykes]

here's my first attempt. No reference for this one, but the next few I do I'll use reference cos looking at this one I have alot to learn.

I didn't pay much attention to changing brush hardness or anything. just used the same brush whole way through with just different sizes. Will bother with those things on the next one because I'm realising more strongly how important it is to mix hard and soft edges.

So 1 down 9 to go. then when those are done can try negro types, asian, and other races.

Edit: Hey by the way is it cheating to use reference for the assignment? As in, is the point of the excerise forfeit if I copied a photo instead of concepting a character types attitude, appearance, expression, etc.?

[reme]

Hello Mr Jason Manley, after viewing the video, ive learnt to focus more on human expressions..
Here are my take on the exercises that youve given to your students :)

Do you mind giving me some tips,advices on how should i capture the expression,features in 2min/portrait?
I tried to do it but i couldn't draw it that fast. If i try to draw fast, my construction of head will fail miserably,
if i construct first, it will take me awhile to draw in the features.
However after i construct, the human head moved and i have to reconstruct :/

Oh ive noticed my country are full of stressfull people after starting observing people around me.


Usually i draw emotionless people but after watching the video ill take note of their expressions!


A big THANK YOU for the video!

[Arshes Nei]

If you guys start up debating on this thread when there was already another thread debating this issue, I'll Ban you so fast your Right Guard will turn left...so consider this your warning to drop it on this thread.

[kraal]

KRTOS---i say concentrate a little more on form and the skull under the skin

[kjdawson80]

The video was amazing, and it inspired me to give this a shot. It's still way too stylized, and I have too much line art going on, but I used masses and forms a lot more than I have in like... ever.

I hope I attached this right!

>_>

Is the image too big for you guys? I can resize if needed!

[isha]

First time I've ever watched one of those and it sure was great :) i doubted how much I could learn since i found it rather short, but when I tried doing a portrait myself, I could already feel I've learned a lot. I absolutely love his technique. The music distracted me a bit but only because i liked it.
So thanks for doing a great job.

So here's my first try: ( 2 hours )

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/knarken/conceptart/sorthvidpotrt1.jpg

[AdventDawn]

definitely have to give zhanglu credit for inspiration. that last download was perhaps the most motivating video I've seen...since...hell there all awesome!

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs45/i/2009/149/c/5/FFP_RElax_illustration_by_AdventDawn.png

[Noah Bradley]

If I'm exiled, I bring my lot with me to make a new place for the people, as is customary in the way of things. I could be an asset to CA, I could also (in part) bring around its unpopularity and abandonment.

Wow. You're trying to threaten CA. Classy, really classy.

*preemptively waves goodbye*

[Twinkie]

Wow. You're trying to threaten CA. Classy, really classy.

*preemptively waves goodbye*

You misquoted me. Go back and, this time, just quote, don't alter. You made me sound like a self-righteous jackass when I'm only trying to help.

[el coro]

Twinkie: nope, from this side of the fence you do come off like a self righteous jackass.

or more just unrealistic and uninformed.

here chew on this...if we put the downloads (which is the only way we can afford the expenses to continue to run CA) up for free, and like you said, and most of the artists who frequent this site are poor students....do you really think they are going to donate enough money to allow us to continue to run this place? i was a poor student once...but i paid a shit load for art school too.

the opportunity for us to share information we've learned doing our trade in exchange for a small fee to help pay for running costs seems like a win win situation to me. its more than a fair trade, especially if you factor in what older folks like me had to pay for art school, to learn less specific stuff no less...

you say the CA school could easily cover the expenses like you know something. we dont charge what AAU or art center does, because we want to make it affordable to said deserving poor artists. the school isnt a cash cow since it takes people's time and expenses to run. i dont think you realize what goes into running an organization like CA, twinkie.

if you leave due to our "commercialization" please feel free to take the folks who torrent our downloads with you. because if im showing people how to do my job so they can directly compete in the same field as me, id to know that at the very least they donated a small amout to hellp out toward the upkeep of this free web community we run, that ive learned so much off of over the past 7 years.:yayca::yayca::yayca:

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