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N D Hill
May 14th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Read this article. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2009/may/13/art-michelangelo-torment-saint-anthony) 'The Torment of Saint Anthony', believed by some to be Michelangelo's first painting.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/5/13/1242248185418/The-Torment-of-Saint-Anth-001.jpg

JessiBean
May 14th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Bottom right looks kinda familiar...
\w/

Elwell
May 14th, 2009, 10:27 AM
Breaking news: art historians discover Michelangelo's teenage fanart.
Really.

Official Kimbell Museum press release (with more complete image): https://www.kimbellart.org/News/News-Article.aspx?nid=119

Dorkthrone
May 14th, 2009, 10:41 AM
Breaking news: art historians discover Michelangelo's teenage fanart.
Really.

Official Kimbell Museum press release (with more complete image): https://www.kimbellart.org/News/News-Article.aspx?nid=119

I never knew that Michelangelo had a DeviantArt account.

ArqArturo
May 14th, 2009, 10:45 AM
I never knew that Michelangelo had a DeviantArt account.

Needs more lens flare.

Ilaekae
May 14th, 2009, 12:45 PM
...and the anatomy's wonky...

Craig D
May 14th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Needs more lens flare.

Isn't that a lens flare over the guys head??

N D Hill
May 14th, 2009, 01:41 PM
I think you go to Art-Hell for this.

http://www.ndhill.com/img/SaintAnthony.jpg

ArqArturo
May 14th, 2009, 02:48 PM
I think you go to Art-Hell for this.

Window or Aisle seat? :D.

TASmith
May 14th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Anyone else feel like questioning this? I mean, it's kind of in the style of Giotto's workshop in Florence. I suppose a young Michelangelo would be studying this stuff. There are numerous frescoes in Florence churches with similar depictions. But this doesn't look anything like his work, even taking into account the age. It seems more like a work of one of those Ghirlandaio's, or a Lippi. Filippini Lippi made several paintings like this. But then, I'm not an expert, and I haven't seen it live.

So where was this thing hiding for the last 500 years, where no one knew about it? I always wonder about "discoveries" like this.

ArqArturo
May 14th, 2009, 03:11 PM
Anyone else feel like questioning this? I mean, it's kind of in the style of Giotto's workshop in Florence. I suppose a young Michelangelo would be studying this stuff. There are numerous frescoes in Florence churches with similar depictions. But this doesn't look anything like his work, even taking into account the age. It seems more like a work of one of those Ghirlandaio's, or a Lippi. Filippini Lippi made several paintings like this. But then, I'm not an expert, and I haven't seen it live.

So where was this thing hiding for the last 500 years, where no one knew about it? I always wonder about "discoveries" like this.

Could be. Perhaps Michelangelo was experimenting with the techniques of different artists.

Elwell
May 14th, 2009, 03:14 PM
Read the articles.

Dorkthrone
May 14th, 2009, 04:09 PM
I think you go to Art-Hell for this.

http://www.ndhill.com/img/SaintAnthony.jpg

NEEDS MORE LENS FLARES AND SONIC

HERE I FIXED IT FOR U
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/ninjacat11/arthell.jpg?t=1242331983

Peter Coene
May 14th, 2009, 06:07 PM
I'm just currious to know how Illaeke managed to get all those monsters to join him for that orgy.

kab
May 14th, 2009, 07:49 PM
I'm just curious as to what the hell these guys were smoking to dream up those creatures, seriously, that's some psychadelic, wierd stuff.

I do think some people have linked Bosch's work to ergotism (an illness caused by eating fungi-infected grains, caused by ergotamine, which is a chemical precursor to lysergic acid diethylamide, LSD)... If you compare something like "The Garden of Earthly Delights" to some more recent psychadelic work, like Todd Schorr, there are alot of similarities both in color and form. Coincidence? :)

ArqArturo
May 14th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I'm just curious as to what the hell these guys were smoking to dream up those creatures, seriously, that's some psychadelic, wierd stuff.

I do think some people have linked Bosch's work to ergotism (an illness caused by eating fungi-infected grains, caused by ergotamine, which is a chemical precursor to lysergic acid diethylamide, LSD)... If you compare something like "The Garden of Earthly Delights" to some more recent psychadelic work, like Todd Schorr, there are alot of similarities both in color and form. Coincidence? :)

My guess is some hash. But then again, most of the masters of the Renaissance weren't known to be bastions of squeaky-clean morals.

TASmith
May 15th, 2009, 12:05 AM
"Read the articles."

I did. I also spent a year in Florence studying the work of the Renaissance, and I've read/spoke with enough art historians there to realize that nothing's cut and dry. Art this old is very difficult to attribute to anyone, and a great deal of it will always be in question. The works of Giotto may very well be painted by a number of different people (apart from his workshop).

The article did mention that the argument surrounding this work has been disputed since the 1960's, not that this argument has been put to rest. It's just that those in favor of the museum's purchase, are also in favor of attributing it to Michelangelo.

MichaelNoel
May 15th, 2009, 12:17 AM
I think you go to Art-Hell for this.
I lol'd. xD

Tbh, I'd love to say that this doesn't look like his style at all, but looking at your own work change from year to year, it's pretty easy to see how someone's work could morph completely.

Either way, work this old is always cool to see.

*ahem, The green goblin thing on his foot looks to be having too much fun.

central
May 15th, 2009, 02:33 AM
painted when he was 12-13 years? WOW !

Max Challie
May 15th, 2009, 04:49 AM
The monsters remind me of Where The Wild Things Are.


.. huh? I'm back in my room now, really hungry. I shouldn't have terrorised the cat :(

ask maurice
May 15th, 2009, 09:38 AM
TASmith's :I mean, it's kind of in the style of Giotto's workshop in Florence. I suppose a young Michelangelo would be studying this stuff. There are numerous frescoes in Florence churches with similar depictions. But this doesn't look anything like his work, even taking into account the age. It seems more like a work of one of those Ghirlandaio's, or a Lippi. Filippini Lippi made several paintings like this. But then, I'm not an expert, and I haven't seen it live.

Other than the claim that Michelangelo is claimed to be 12-13 when this was created and maybe that there was something he was attempting to express, besides his color palette (which was pretty much standardized at that time) it looks nothing like a Michelangelo to me. But I'm no expert.

However, I believe what is a more relevant point about this article is the fact that "conceptual visualization" IS something we have been doing for quite a long time.



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VulgarDragon
May 16th, 2009, 12:21 AM
I couldn't help myself...

http://www.vulgardragon.com/images/misc/StTonyndoritos.jpg

Jacob Kobryn
May 16th, 2009, 03:38 AM
Did anyone else notice the butt-face on the lower right demon? :P

Kagemusha22
May 16th, 2009, 07:37 AM
Art this old is very difficult to attribute to anyone, and a great deal of it will always be in question.

Wasn't there a recent story about the painting "The Colossus", being made by an associate of Goya rather than Goya himself. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/arts/design/02abroad.html)

tmbritton
May 16th, 2009, 11:34 AM
It's just like how every time somebody finds a scrap of paper with writing on it from the Elizabethan era, somebody tries to say it's Shakespeare.