Chow 157 :: The ENDLESS

[DigitalShade]

I chose Dream, not sure if I'll be able to get this one done in time. I've had a bad eye infection that's kept me down. So I haven't been able to clean this up and finish it. Hopefully it clears up by tomorrow ::sigh:: it would happen on a cool topic. Sketch idea and current wip.

[Aly Fell]

I know I'm pushing it a bit myself, but bear in mind this is a 'redesign' of the characters. I'm seeing some great pics, but many that look like the existing interpretations. Try to make some concession to how YOU would see the characters, not how they have previously been drawn. When Daestwen and myself make the selection we don't want to cut people for not being 'on brief'. :)

[KleeWyck]

took it a bit further with the advice i got from everyone. thanks guys. there's still a lot i need to improve but i definitely think it looks a little better.

added some souls... right now i think it overpowers the character. so i'll probably tone it down.

[Ronpower]

Here I added some rough colors. Very rough still, will be working on it all afternoon.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=666921&stc=1&d=1241906545

I saw the comment a while back about her neck. Good catch. Will try to fix this up as well.

[Oxide-0]

Heres an update on Delirium and her dog more to it than the last one, its not supper different from the original character still going with the teenish girl though i decided to throw in a vortex of chaos that chases her around and only affects her. The idea was to go with that whole MANIC personality being pulled in different directions kinda thing.


Great work stuff so far guys your keeping me motivated!
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[Amber Alexander]

Ronpower: I like the pose and the colors, I'm assuming shes death because of the symbol around her eye but right now her necklace looks like a cross, I'd suggest making it more obviously an ankh if that's what its supposted to be. Keep it up tho, lookin good!

[croovman]

Ever looked back at something you've made and it made you wonder what it was exactly that you were on?
This has generally been a disappointment for me, art and concept wise, over-thinking it, yet under-thinking it. Over ambitious, I guess.
But I apologize in advance for the space taking, I thought too much about all this stuff for me not to share, however uninteresting.

First of all, I was going for keeping what represented the characters' personalities for me, rather than the visual symbols, while reinventing only the setting\background.
It being, instead of the original kind of meta-mystical setting, basically extremely corny sci-fi. With each character being represented in some different sci-fi pop-cultural manner.
The concept is that the Endless are an assembly of different superior races which are charged with the mission of "supervising" different aspects of our world for... pretty much ever.
They're pretty much stuck whith each other, so they definitely function as a family as in the comics.

Anyway, to your horror I challenged myself to redesign the whole bunch, so I hope you don't mind me giving a basic description for each one, in case anyone likes a concept I thought of which doesn't come through in the images.

Dream - Pale alien looking, with spaceman helmet and antennas, and with the psychic ability to enter dreams and so forth.
I thought I'd render him for the final, looking through his window from above the earth, stars reflecting in his big dark eyes.

Desire - Kind of a canine, royal, rockstar looking.

Delirium - Lizard-humanoid. She's kind of stuck in an undeveloped stage due to the irremovable broken brain enhancer she's wearing, which also makes her hallucinating and also project some whacky psychedelic magnetic fields around her. I really dislike the big eyed version I sketched, but the other one's okay.

Despair - This is where it starts to go too far.
Desire's twin, Despair, gets her brain put in a robot that's much less than attractive, and even less comfortable.
The robot is composed of machinery and this nasty meat-jelly matter.
She's in the habit of slicing the matter with her hook-like robot fingers. Nasty.

Destruction - In the comics, Destruction leaves his duties to roam the earth. And so here he does the same, only to become... Sasquatch!!! How's that for corny.

Destiny - Continuing over-complication.
Destiny is a parasitic creature, attached to, I thought, either an abducted cave man or an astronaut, who is carrying Destiny's super-computer, able to calculate data to foresee any event. Mmmmmm, cheesiness.

Death - Last, and definitely least, being made when I was already out of juice from disappointment.
Elf-like, all white, and generally casual.

I definitely lack perspective if I shared all a' this mayhem, so comments are really welcomed, folks.

-Stav

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4039/dreamdesiredev.jpghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3034/deliriumdev.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8181/despairdev.jpghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1369/destructiondev.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4457/destinydev.jpghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2195/deathdev.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3998/sandzardev.jpg

[Rodimus25]

Wow great round everyone, heres what i have so far. Dream wip-age.

Ramza: Looking really sick mate:) Nice one.

[jpedro]

so here's a color wip of mine.
thanks to the folks who commented, about the androgynous issue, i point to the wiki text and my last post ;)

greets!

Jan

[anthro-trees]

never read the comics. but this sounds fun.

did a quick sketch of death. i think of the concept of death as very bird-like and strangely elegant. that's why i'm going with a bird-like representation.
will probably rethink the anhk sword...

then i thought that perhaps it would be interesting to incorporate the shape of the ankh to her silhouette/design... probably be messing around with that idea.

You're joking right?

She looks like she is in a chicken costume with wings sticking out her ass.

[Amber Alexander]

You're joking right?

She looks like she is in a chicken costume with wings sticking out her ass.

Maybe its the tone but a comment like that is more hurtful then helpful. If you think she looks chicken like then suggest ways to make it look more elegant rather then being rude. My first thought was to rework the legs, I like the feathers as they are.

[IIKII]

Actually i already fixed the problem in death last night & i did a destruction.
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[Tavarilyn]

Wow... almost too late. There are some seriously smokin' images here!

So far, process... just put 'em all in one image. And below that, what I'm considering a "final". I'm not 100% happy with it... it's feels like it's missing something Delirium-esque? I was hoping the chaotic BG would do it, but... perhaps someone can offer some suggestions/critiques? I'm up for redoing her from the ground up if need be... :}

Tav

[MJ_Alcazar]

Thanks everyone for all the critiques!

Update on Death

[Tavarilyn]

Holy wow, MJ! Talk about a sweet job of portraying Death! Having spent the last four weeks or so working with you, I can definitely say I've seen you improve with every image you do.

The only critique I can think to offer is... light-source? Do you have two? I'm imagining the window is one... but it appears you have another one to the bottom right of the image ... and perhaps another one to the left? It's hard to tell. Granted, lightsourcing is my -worst- area so perhaps someone with more experience can tell.

-snugs- VERY nice job, though. I can almost feel the material... and talk about a snazzy outfit!

~Tav

[Jie Kageshinzo]

More renderings. Having a hard time with his right hand and arm.

[MJ_Alcazar]

tsav - thanks! *snugs* Umm, I was only suppoased to have two light sources. I was afraid the bsacklight would make her too dark and you wouldn't be sable to see her.

I actually think your first sketch had as more dillerium feel to it. Right now she looks to calm.

Everyone elase - I'm going to try fizxing my key boasrd aso the rsandom lettersa astop popping up. If i can get thast done in time, I'll try to leave asome lsat minute critas for everyone!

[Sekino]

I've finished both Despair and Death:

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I think I'll submit them together, but I'm not sure if this is the right format (it looks weird if I try to put them in the same image):

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Any idea?

[~baxter]

If you've done more than one put them in a single image.:)

Yep you got it right :)

[longshao]

Like Sherlock Holmes, John Carter, Smaug or Baba Yaga for example? ;) :hugsmile:

Loving the work coming through in this round. It doesn't look like trying to re-interpret the characters has been a problem.

Sorry I haven't been following chow. I'll check on previous threads.
update:
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu22/hspg/deathcopy.jpg

[hotjen]

so many inspiring stuff! i'm gonna get the folder chok full of goodies once everybody's done:D:yayca:

[Aly Fell]

You're joking right?

She looks like she is in a chicken costume with wings sticking out her ass.

Those kind of comments are not helpful and are likely to get you short shrift round here. Please keep crits objective and constructive.

Oregano - Good to see you here!

[Katanasoul]

This is my try to do despair. I have lots of work to do, so I don´t know if I can finish it, but I want to try.
So, the pencil sketch:

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[Franna]

Finally done with the values. yay! Only colour left to do. Thanks for all the comments guys. See you soon in the finals...

And what's with the tiny thumbnails?

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[elliste]

I was taking a recap through this thread and just wanted everyone to know how awesome the works are. I love all the variations and styles.

I was wondering, once the "Final Burning" link is up are we supposed to stop posting on this thread? :bashful:

[Aly Fell]

I was taking a recap through this thread and just wanted everyone to know how awesome the works are. I love all the variations and styles.

I was wondering, once the "Final Burning" link is up are we supposed to stop posting on this thread? :bashful:

The final burning is already up:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157526

And you can post your WIPs and crits in this thread as long as you like! :)

[Franna]

I was wondering, once the "Final Burning" link is up are we supposed to stop posting on this thread? :bashful:


The Final Burning has been up for a while already, and we're still posting on this thread now, so no, we don't have to stop posting. I hope I understood your question correctly.

[quickreaver]

I totally dig the tiny thumbnails! The forum can take forever to load. Big improvement.

[S.C. Watson]

Oregano - Good to see you here!

Thanks Posh - hard to stay away.

Best,
~S

[Eric Young]

I think i'm about finished.

[xgabo]

had a chance to work a little more on my image:

[Viridis]

Well, I thought I'd run out of time on this one but since we get until Monday evening I should be okay, I think. ;) Gonna give it a go, anyway.

I'm doing Dream in his second incarnation-- all in white. (I'm actually a little surprised that several people are doing the first Despair, but nobody remembered Dream has a second form, too...) I think it's implied somewhere in the comics that Morpheus started out all in white, too, but gradually got darker and darker until he was wearing all black. With this one I want to go the opposite way-- showing all the subtle colors in the white.

Right now, though, I'm having a little bit of trouble laying out the background-- that's supposed to be a pool/crumbled fountain on the right, but the perspective seems to be a bit off. Suggestions?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/FlameRaven/dreamwip1.jpg

[flashrabbit]

Some nice stuff in this thread, good show :)
Here is a quick one of Dream, a little late in the game.

[ianthegeek]

Here's where I am at the moment. Not had allot of time this week so hopefully I'll finish this. Think I'll take a break for a bit. Give my mind a rest and hpefully give someone a chance to see this.
Maybe I'l iron some shirts for the week.

WOO HOO!!!!

[Viridis]

Updated WIP. Ended up ditching the background for something with a little more contrast.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/FlameRaven/dreamwip3.jpg

[bluefooted]

Fab round. I chose Desire. wips:

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final:

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[Katanasoul]

@FlameRaven: I like the colours and the contrast. :)
Still I think the legs could be longer. They should be as long as the rest of the body, maybe you can still correct that. I´m a little sad that you decided to not to do that greek background. I liked that a lot.

@longshao: This is beautyful! I really, really like it, the colours, the composition, contrast... Wow! Waiting for the final piece!

Well, now I worked on this the whole day and what it gave me is the knowledge that it will take me much more time to figure out how to use a computer program properly.
I really don´t like what I did, still I´m going to show as it´s about improving.

[quickreaver]

Oooh, blue....I love what you did with the heart....*stares in rapture*

[NicHolS]

omg did i have some issues yesterday, from not being able to access the site to major color calibration vs monitor issues sigh but all is good, time for the update! this will no doubt be the last tweek...

thanks to all of those who helped and gave crits along the way, im pretty happy with how this turned out! cant wait to see everyones finals!

...and heres old candle man himself... the finger feathered fantasy known as destiny!

[Viridis]

@FlameRaven: I like the colours and the contrast. :)
Still I think the legs could be longer. They should be as long as the rest of the body, maybe you can still correct that. I´m a little sad that you decided to not to do that greek background. I liked that a lot.

I liked the greek ruins too, but I felt like since Dream is all white that he was getting a little lost against the white marble ruins. (Also, I'm a bit crunched for time in finishing this, and didn't think I'd be able to do the ruins justice.)

You're right about the legs. I'll see what I can do to tweak that.

[Djinn]

Well, I'm a little worried that I wont be able to get this all polishy-finished in time, but I'm gonna try. Unfortunately I don't quite have the speed that experience offers us, since I'm still in the early stages of the learning curve here. This is what I have so far, I'm having trouble with the color scheme, I want to keep fairly close to the original blue-black-white pallate, but I also want to paint it with my own spin on the style. Still trying to figure out how to make certain elements contrasty enough to make them their own elements. I'm also quite unsure about the background, I wanted a pseudo-abstract thing going on, but I've never been very good at that. Annnyway, enough blabbering, here's my WIP:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/wolveeberserker/chow_157_wip2.jpg

[serhc]

wip for delirium...the barfy is going to turn into some random purty things.
would love to receive some crits

i gotta find some refs for light and color, i have no knowledge about these things, eff
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[Oxide-0]

Delirium is coming along i am hoping to finish it before the due date if so i've a few more ideas to work in. I also managed to work in a little comic book feel as homage to the medium.

How well Do you guys think its working as of right now?
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[keith eager]

Desire will be colored tomorrow, once I've had some sleep.

[threeeyesworm]

Everyone who told me about the 3/4 rule, THANK YOU! You all saved me! I didn't know about the 3/4 rule because this is the first time I've entered into Chow in a LONG time.

Here's the update:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3314/3521251438_cfec249689_o.jpg

[kurios]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/kurios/CA-Endless-Death-Wip-Colors2.jpg

Will blend the shading better.

Dunno what to do for legs- fishnets, vertical stripes, or just sheer brown stockings.

I was going to go with a clockwork background with gears, both to tie into the steampunk/clockwork couture thing, and also how life, the universe and everything goes along like clockwork.

Any other thoughts appreciated also. : )

[ryuloulou]

hi everyone

I am super late on this chow

just starting over but rushing to finish on time.
hope to see you on final thread.

here are my wips.

http://stephaniehans.free.fr/2.jpg
http://stephaniehans.free.fr/4.jpg

[pepps]

wip of dream

[Katanasoul]

Pepps, your version of Dream is cool! He really has presence, I think. Still I feel like the right hand (speaking from the viewers perspective) is not right this way. Try to hold it this way, it won´t be posibble without pain. :)
Maybe you can change it into something more natural.

[daestwen]

Sorry for the delay on the poll last night, guys. CA decided to refuse to work just when I started to do poll, and it was already late so i went to bed. Putting it up now!