superflu pandemic possible zombie apocolipse

[alti]

yo, post if you got the flu, i sure do.


ps - the news is scary. BBC, CNN , SBS, ABC , youtube, world health organisation WHO issued a big statement saying its out of their hands and good luck wtf thanks.

-alti

[AdventDawn]

I thought world war z wasn't supposed to happen till 2012...da'FUCK!?

[Jason Rainville]

ah nevermind...

[Noa K]

poop?

[TASmith]

It's horrifying to think so many people got infected and died in Mexico, but the few people who've traveled elsewhere are doing fine and expected to fully recover - it says a lot about their health system. It seems like there's nothing any of us can do except keep our fingers crossed.

[ArtZealot]

It's only scary to me because i've read The Stand and was kind of obsessed with that book for awhile. I think anytime i hear the words "epidemic" that book comes to mind.

[edit]- if you haven't read The Stand by Stephen King, i highly reccomend it. :)

[HunterKiller_]

New Zealand has very likely been hit, and possibly France.

[TASmith]

"It's only scary to me because i've read The Stand and was kind of obsessed with that book for awhile. I think anytime i hear the words "epidemic" that book comes to mind."

ditto.

[Molly]

zombies?....

*Shotgun and baseball bat at the ready...*

mx

[Baron Impossible]

You sure? You wouldn't be able to crawl to the computer if you had flu. That's one way you can differentiate from a cold - no way could you walk with real flu.

[Maidith]

I've also read The Stand AND watched "I am Legend"...

darn. At least I'm still healthy. alti, get well soon! :)

[Chingwa]

It's good to see people are scared, as that's the whole point of the media barrage. It's good to see people who are good at their jobs.

but really, If we all got scared when some people died in mexico, or a bunch of kids spread a virus around a school then we wouldn't be able to walk outside.

[LORD M]

The thing that makes this swine flu so deadly is that we humans haven't been exposed to it during our evolutionary history, so we lack a good natural defense system towards it since it wasn't needed back then. This virus is common amongst pigs, it mutated to spread to people and then mutated again so it could spread amongst humans. It's just like the Black Plague, that virus have almost always been present in rodents like rats and gofers which had it as a common not-so-deadly disease, and they still have it, but when it mutated so that it spread to and amongsthumans then we got in trouble because of no natural immunity towards it. This is why it's more deadlier then the bird-flu, which haven't mutated yet to spread amongst humans.



I looked around on the net, and found som really, I mean really, disturbing things.

Pigs Hold Clues to Man-Made Flu
"Sang Heui Seo of Chungnam National University in Daejon, South Korea, entered six genetic sequences from pigs into GenBank in late October. Niman came across the data in late November, and noticed they contained between three and seven genes from the WSN33 virus, which was created in 1933 by a London lab that was researching the 1918 flu pandemic. The London lab found that the virus could infect mice, indicating that it might successfully infect humans, Niman said. He reported the presence of the human WSN33 genes in Seo's samples to WHO officials in early December."

So basicly it's man-made out of the Spanish flu which killed 100 million people worldwide, and have now spread to pigs and can now spread to and among humans.

http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/03/66824




And another alarming thing:

A year ago, the Center For Disease Control, CDC, bought hundreds of thousends of air tight seal coffins and ordered millions of bodybags.

qNuBHZlB0sY

http://www.infowars.com/a-half-a-million-plastic-coffins/


It's a bit alarming, it's like they knew in forehand what was coming. That combined with the fact that this pig flu was man-made is horrifying.

[Sekino]

It's horrifying to think so many people got infected and died in Mexico, but the few people who've traveled elsewhere are doing fine and expected to fully recover

It's reasonable to think that most of the casualties were working adults, probably poor or supporting large families, who couldn't afford the 'luxury' to get some hospital care and not earn anything for even a short while.

So far, the cases in the US have not been fatal because they were getting cared for in time.

It's wise to be careful, but I doubt this is an apocalyptic, indiscriminate killing disease. Sounds like the usual poverty-stricken worker killing disease. Very tragic and unfair, nonetheless :(

[s.ketch]

Pigs Hold Clues to Man-Made Flu
"Sang Heui Seo of Chungnam National University in Daejon, South Korea, entered six genetic sequences from pigs into GenBank in late October. Niman came across the data in late November, and noticed they contained between three and seven genes from the WSN33 virus, which was created in 1933 by a London lab that was researching the 1918 flu pandemic. The London lab found that the virus could infect mice, indicating that it might successfully infect humans, Niman said. He reported the presence of the human WSN33 genes in Seo's samples to WHO officials in early December."

So basicly it's man-made out of the Spanish flu which killed 100 million people worldwide, and have now spread to pigs and can now spread to and among humans.

http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/03/66824



I am confused about this. I know it's from a reputable source, so I am not trying to argue that. In 1933, unless I am wrong, scientists couldn't 'create' viruses like we do today. It seems to me that they would have had to breed a virus rather than engineer it. They were probably using Mendelian genetics which was just mapping out traits and then crossing them. If that is the case then it would seem more like "Whoops, we put some viruses in a dish and it evolved into something really bad." Which is really something that could have happened naturally also.

Can bluefooted or some one else who knows biology explain this stuff? I feel I don't know enough about viruses.

[Brushcommander]

Links related
http://pigflumap.com
http://twitter.com/Veratect

[Carbon Productions]

Suspected cases are in Scotland too. My microbiology lecturer knows a lot about viruses and no doubt they'll be a discussion about this tomorrow. I will ask my chem lecturer (whose brain is like an encyclopedia) if he knows anything about it :)

In the meantime, grab a sword and gun and bring on the zombies!! :P

[Craig D]

PLEASE NOTE that the wired news article is from several years ago and
is unrelated to this current swine flu outbreak.

Also be aware that Lord M is not well educated in these areas and is one of the biggest conspiracy theory nuts on CA.org.

[LORD M]

PLEASE NOTE that the wired news article is from several years ago and
is unrelated to this current swine flu outbreak.

Also be aware that Lord M is not well educated in these areas and is one of the biggest conspiracy theory nuts on CA.org.

Just because the article is several years old doesn't mean it's false. WSN33 is the same as H1N1 (the current swine influenza). The study in that article just proves that they have known that H1N1 was man-made for some time (since these kind of articles get spread easily). And the fact that CDC ordered these 500 000 coffins a year ago kinda worries me, maybe they knew that there would be an pandemic that couldn't be stopped. What do I know about that? I am just worried.

And that I am not any educated on these areas, I don't know, if you're refering to the first sentences in my post then I am just repeating what I got to learn on the courses I took on my university. Genetics and viruses aren't my favourite subject and I don't find it extremely intressting so I could have missed something. But I think I know what I'm talking about there.


Oh and fun to know I have atleast made a name out of myself here if I'm seen as one of the biggest conspiracy theory nuts on CA.org. :D

[Atlantis]

It's only scary to me because i've read The Stand and was kind of obsessed with that book for awhile. :)

M-O-O-N, that spells flu.

[s.ketch]

Just because the article is several years old doesn't mean it's false. WSN33 is the same as H1N1 (the current swine influenza). The study in that article just proves that they have known that H1N1 was man-made for some time (since these kind of articles get spread easily).

I would like to see some kind of source for this. The wired article does not say that WSN33 matches H1N1. And who are they? The government? If everyone are slaves to the government who wants to run the world, why would they kill everyone? They need us to do everything. Killing off a major part of the population would give them less power and less human resources.

And the fact that CDC ordered these 500 000 coffins a year ago kinda worries me, maybe they knew that there would be an pandemic that couldn't be stopped. What do I know about that? I am just worried.

They're not coffins. They're vaults. These are plastic versions of the cement casings that caskets are placed in. They are probably tons cheaper and easier to mass produce (obviously) than cement vaults. There is also no connection between the vaults and the CDC either. Simply having a field full of vaults in Georgia, which happens to be the supposed "largest airport hub" in the country means nothing. Funeral homes buy these all the time. They're a cheap alternative to traditional vaults and mostly made for people who can't afford to bury their family in luxury. Prisoners, the poor, natural disaster victims (oh hey, we just had how many thousands die from Katrina? Might be nice to be prepared this time), and the like need cheap, convenient burial options.


I am not trying to attack you, it's just that these things don't make sense. That infowar website makes claims and provides no evidence.

"Yep, these are cheap plastic coffins. Hundreds of thousands of them. Don’t believe it?"

See, its already provided some wrong information. Which is funny because the article provides a link to a company that makes the vaults. They didn't even read or understand their own sources, they just looked at pictures.

"Why coffins? Why in the middle of Georgia?"

Ok, good questions, nothing wrong with this, except the coffin thing.

"Well, apparently the Government is expecting a half million people to die relatively soon"

Wat. Where the hell did this come from? Were they're Men in Black in the video? No guards, no CDC officials, nothing.

"and the Atlanta Airport is a major airline traffic hub, probably the biggest in the country"

So is the city I live in. We are the 3rd largest freight hub in the country, but no fields of plastic vaults.

"which means Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination."

Wat again. How is that so? Wouldn't a secret island like Guam or some remote desert location be better for military operations? If some guy with a camera can wonder right into a major military operation, record stuff, go back home, post it online and not get caught, then it doesn't sound like a very secure evil military project to kill off everyone in the united states except rich people.

"It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control."

Wouldn't the home be in D.C.? Every state has a CDC outpost.

[IanE]

Texas reporting in.

Flu in full effect.

[Hyskoa]

Define "full effect".

[LORD M]

I would like to see some kind of source for this. The wired article does not say that WSN33 matches H1N1. And who are they? The government? If everyone are slaves to the government who wants to run the world, why would they kill everyone? They need us to do everything. Killing off a major part of the population would give them less power and less human resources.



They're not coffins. They're vaults. These are plastic versions of the cement casings that caskets are placed in. They are probably tons cheaper and easier to mass produce (obviously) than cement vaults. There is also no connection between the vaults and the CDC either. Simply having a field full of vaults in Georgia, which happens to be the supposed "largest airport hub" in the country means nothing. Funeral homes buy these all the time. They're a cheap alternative to traditional vaults and mostly made for people who can't afford to bury their family in luxury. Prisoners, the poor, natural disaster victims (oh hey, we just had how many thousands die from Katrina? Might be nice to be prepared this time), and the like need cheap, convenient burial options.


I am not trying to attack you, it's just that these things don't make sense. That infowar website makes claims and provides no evidence.

"Yep, these are cheap plastic coffins. Hundreds of thousands of them. Don’t believe it?"

See, its already provided some wrong information. Which is funny because the article provides a link to a company that makes the vaults. They didn't even read or understand their own sources, they just looked at pictures.

"Why coffins? Why in the middle of Georgia?"

Ok, good questions, nothing wrong with this, except the coffin thing.

"Well, apparently the Government is expecting a half million people to die relatively soon"

Wat. Where the hell did this come from? Were they're Men in Black in the video? No guards, no CDC officials, nothing.

"and the Atlanta Airport is a major airline traffic hub, probably the biggest in the country"

So is the city I live in. We are the 3rd largest freight hub in the country, but no fields of plastic vaults.

"which means Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination."

Wat again. How is that so? Wouldn't a secret island like Guam or some remote desert location be better for military operations? If some guy with a camera can wonder right into a major military operation, record stuff, go back home, post it online and not get caught, then it doesn't sound like a very secure evil military project to kill off everyone in the united states except rich people.

"It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control."

Wouldn't the home be in D.C.? Every state has a CDC outpost.

No no you totally got me wrong! I didn't mean that the government are trying to kill everyone, I meant that they mayhap knew what threath this virus was and what it could do, and prepared for the worst and didn't say much about it to the public to avoid panic. And "They" would have been WHO, because they would surely have been intressted in this kind of information and I believ tries to look up this kind of information if they haven't already been informed.

Oh yeah, sorry I should have attatched the other article I read about H1N1 and WSN33, sorry about that, it was clumsy.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12040402/1933_2004_H1N1.html



About the coffins, that what you said seems to make sense so I wont say anything more about that. I was just worried and mayhap a bit paranoid when I read about H1N1 and then the "coffins".

[Liz Edwards]

So, I finished reading this thread, decided to go back to my book - Stephen King 'Night Shift'... the very next paragraph in the story (Night Surf) contained this bundle of reassurance:

"So here we were, with the whole human race wiped out, not by atomic weapons or bio-warfare or pollution or anything grand like that. Just the flu."

Thank you, Stephen King, I feel so much better now :(

[alesoun]

I have only had real flu (as opposed to a fluey cold) once. I never ever want to have it again. I spent 2 days thinking I was dying and wishing I would bloody well hurry up about it.. Couldn't bear light, couldn't lift my head off the pillow. Couldn't breathe (had to concentrate on every single breath I took). When sleep came, the dreams were terrifying......
*shudder*

[smugbug]

Don't fall for conspiracy theories and don't panic. Just remain informed and if you feel like you're coming down with something: don't leave your house.

Besides, I hate it when people who are obviously sick are out and about and sneezing/coughing on everyone else around them. Kinda rude.

To remain informed, here are some helpful links (not sure if these have been posted; I apologize if they have):

List of resources here: http://tedchris.posterous.com/insightful-resources-for-monitoring-the-swine

A couple of blogs with more information:
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/
http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/

WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124078887309757539.html

A whole lotta links/info/updates here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/26/724688/-Swine-Flu-Update:-Public-Health-Emergency-Declared

What you can do to protect yourself: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-sherwood/swine-flu-survival-three_b_191459.html

[JailHouseRock2]

New Zealand has very likely been hit, and possibly France.




It's true, I know that at least myself and 2 other friends had the flu, and now we have become blood thirsty zombies. be afraid.

[phiq]

Goodness... got to watch anyone who quotes infowars.com. Alex Jones, it's creator, is an unmitigated tool >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio) *shakes head* :(

[Carbon Productions]

Sorry if this has been said before but this strain of H1N1 IS NOT the same one as the Spanish flu. This strain started as a respitory disease in pigs.

Viruses are extremly good at adapting to the enviroment and changing their genetic codes. (which is why we need different flu jabs every year) This strain picked up genitic codes from pigs then birds then humans, making it very versitlie to jump between species.
Becuase of this, and the fact it may be able to be airborne, it is difficult to make vaccines untill the virus is fully understood.

(Yeah I'm a geek for genitics and viruses in particular :P)

[Costau D]

I'm going to murder the next person that sneezes!

[Sekino]

I'm going to murder the next person that sneezes!

The thing scaring me more than avian pig flu zombies are lynch mobs: My seasonal allergies are strongly acting up right now. Great timing, as always.

[Ostrander]

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

-T.S. Eliot

[squidmonk3j]

the massively amplified media coverage is obviously intended for a supralunar audience.

http://www.ruyasonic.com/images/promos/War-of-the-Worlds-poster.jpg

...well, let's hope so anywayz.

[JJacks]

I'm surprised there hasn't been any recorded cases in Arizona yet. We're right next to Mexico.

[t11]

and of course I have to go to the airport tomorrow...

I'm impressed how the numbers have jumped ten times for NY & California since I last read this morning and am left to wonder how many of those are legitimate cases, how many are hypochondriacs, and how many are media inflation.

People should learn how to wash their fucking hands.

[ceberae]

If you're not a baby, an old person or someone who doesn't have access to proper health care, you shouldn't be even concerning yourself with this. The worst that can happen to you is you'll be out for about a week. It's a flu - all standard precautions work for this one as well. Try to avoid crowded places, stop licking random people and objects, and once you get the symptoms don't drag yourself to work - spare your co-workers (take one for the team so to speak). And that's it.

[Blahm]

there is talk of this being a bio-attack. And i tend to agree with that. Especially how the media is hammering it so hard.

[chriskot]

XKCD is always relevant:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/swine_flu.png

[Hookswords]

there is talk of this being a bio-attack. And i tend to agree with that. Especially how the media is hammering it so hard.

If I find the guy that's fucking with my bacon I will choke him until I can drink the fear from his eye sockets

[s.ketch]

I'm moving to Madagascar.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3953/shutdowneverything.jpg

[phiq]

there is talk of this being a bio-attack. And i tend to agree with that. Especially how the media is hammering it so hard.

There's also talk of it being a naturally occurring virus *SHOCK!*

[alesoun]

We have two confirmed cases here in Scotland now......... break out the hot toddies!

[ArtZealot]

there is talk of this being a bio-attack. And i tend to agree with that. Especially how the media is hammering it so hard.

There is!?? i never would have thought someone would think this is a bio attack. At least you sir won't be a victim of the media's fearmongering...

[Dougbot]

If you're not a baby, an old person or someone who doesn't have access to proper health care, you shouldn't be even concerning yourself with this.

While I'm not in panic mode, the above statement isn't exactly true. From The Daily Beast:

According to The Washington Post, some 15 people in Mexico who are suspected to have contracted fatal cases of swine flu were between the ages of 25 and 37. Why people in their prime are in such danger is a mystery, but health experts have some theories. One idea is that swine flu acts by causing an overreaction in the body's immune system, which could mean that young people with stronger immune systems are thus more negatively impacted by the virus. "In these cases, it's the immune system itself that reacts robustly, and it's the immune system in that reaction to the virus that is causing death in these patients," CNN's chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said in an interview with the network. "So the virus starts that cascade, but all that fluid builds up in the lungs, and all those inflammatory cells throughout the body--that's what's causing the problem. We saw the same thing with SARS and with avian flu as well."

There is cause and reason for concern. Make sure you wash your hands, cover your mouth when you sneeze and cough. If you feel sick, stay home. Common sense stuff.

As far as it being a bio terror attack; c'mon really?

[ArtZealot]

Spelling nazi reporting for duty. I'm not sure if maybe it's written differently in other countries, but i am pretty sure the only way to spell the word in the title of this thread is "apocalypse" not "apocolipse"

I could be wrong, if so i'll delete this message but... just letting u know.

[squidmonk3j]

tens of thousands die from the flu in the US...every year.

[ArtZealot]

Saturday 10 people in the US had it, Sunday night, 20 people, monday night 50, today hundreds more cases were discovered in new york schools. What do they call it when something spreads in that pattern? going "viral" is it? I'm not panicking...i'm not panicking...

[bluefooted]

tens of thousands die from the flu in the US...every year.

THE GOVERNMENT.

Also, that 1918 flu pandemic (http://http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2005/10/pandemic_influenza_awareness_w_2.php) that killed probably 100 million people? That's right: the government.

[Sorknes]

When it comes to only babies and old and sick people being in the danger, the very thing that is special with pandemic outbreaks is that it is the normal healthy young-ish people that acutally get hit harder or at least as much as the ones you'd think would go down first. That's one of the specifics of pandemics and is also why they're watching this one since that's what seems to happen.

That said, it seems that so far it kind of looks like a pandemic for the poor. No one in so called rich countries has died from it, that's reported at least, which means it might just be a little harder flu that's not that harder to beat back than normal flu - but you'd need to know about it and have the equipment/facilities/healthcare for it.

I might have to eat my words later though.

[Slash]

I will be at heathrow on may 6th.. could you brits kindly keep your airport clean while i transfer? :P


PS: These scare-virii need cooler names, like the DRAGON FLU or T-VIRUS.

[Cthogua]

Thank you Art Zealot, that's quite possibly the best thing to have come out of this entire event.

[Black Spot]

stop licking random people and objects

That's it, ruin all my fun.

[nonie]

Those who work in foodservice jobs can't afford to take time off, and could lose their jobs if they do. I used to work in places like that. They expect you to come in even if you're really sick. If you're worried about this thing, I'd say make your own meals.

Also, stay away from wooded areas, cuz the government is gonna jump out of a bush and sneeze on you.

[Genome]

THE GOVERNMENT.

Also, that 1918 flu pandemic (http://http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2005/10/pandemic_influenza_awareness_w_2.php) that killed probably 100 million people? That's right: the government.

your link doesn't seem to work for me :(. Also I am very curious as to what you mean by "government" I assume that it has something to do with their involvement with The spanish flu outbreak. I would be very pleased if you could find the time to explain in detail what you mean. thank you

[ceberae]

There is cause and reason for concern.
Not really. News articles always tend to provide just enough information to seem plausible and withhold just enough to be sensational. I can also quote you another, from Science Daily (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090427155739.htm) that features a yet another number of cases. Which one is true? Even in the unlikely event that all of the suspected cases in Mexico in that age group will be confirmed to have been caused by that particular flu variety, it still won't make it any more dangerous for you and me. Those 15 people were healthy adults? Hospital patients recovering from surgery? People with severe respiratory illnesses? See, as soon as this information is removed from the news article it suddenly becomes a reason for concern. Sure there is a chance that a healthy adult may die from a flu. But there's also a chance that a healthy adult may die in a car accident.

According to WHO, 200,000 to 500,000 people die of influenza every year world wide resulting from millions of infections. This happens every year! Is this a case for concern more so than any other year? I'll reserve the panic until after all cases are confirmed and all the facts come in.

[ArtZealot]

I also heard that the deaths in mexico were because the victims were admitted to hospitals until weeks after they started feeling sick. From what i've heard, if someone in the US is found to have it, everyone in their household is brought to the hospital, tested, and not let go until they recover, if infected. Mexico wasn't doing this, if someone was sick and had a family with 20 heads under the roof, they only cared about the sick one.

Further, i heard that many residents of mexico are quite frustrated with how the information is getting to the public, a lot of people are reportedly feeling quite left out of the loop, not knowing where infections are especially bad, etc. It would be awesome to hear from any conceptartees who are in ground zero and listen to how it's actually going down there, most of this info is hearsay.

[bluefooted]

your link doesn't seem to work for me :(. Also I am very curious as to what you mean by "government" I assume that it has something to do with their involvement with The spanish flu outbreak. I would be very pleased if you could find the time to explain in detail what you mean. thank you

I was being completely sarcastic. Sorry.

Here's a link that hopefully works: http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2005/10/pandemic_influenza_awareness_w_2.php

Actually, Tara's whole blog is really useful for information about 'swine flu' and other strains of influenza - lots of background on why certain strains are worse or more frightening to those who watch for outbreaks.

[ArtZealot]

That article is good, but not very reassuring. I heard the Daily Show had a good bit on it yesterday which i am about to check out on hulu (http://www.hulu.com/watch/70227/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-mon-apr-27-2009).

[Bill]

there is talk of this being a bio-attack. And i tend to agree with that. Especially how the media is hammering it so hard.

The Pigs have finally made their move! It was only a matter of time...

[JailHouseRock2]

Ahhh,

First off I'd like to apologies for my post on the last page, I'm not finding it funny now. Or at least not as funny:P

A friend of a friend is one of the 29 students who came back from Mexico with this little bastard.

Not as funny now...

[alesoun]

Animal Farm has a lot to answer for...... not to mention George Orwell! ;)

Edit: Jailhouse, it's human nature to joke about scarey things.

[Straight Edge Ryan]

I'm not sure this could make people zombies but....I'm gonna go outside and start killing people just to be safe


Let the bad times roll bitches!

[ArtZealot]

Ahhh,

First off I'd like to apologies for my post on the last page, I'm not finding it funny now. Or at least not as funny:P

A friend of a friend is one of the 29 students who came back from Mexico with this little bastard.

Not as funny now...

Everyone in US who has got it has recovered. It seems that if a person gets medical attention early, theres a good chance of being alright. I think its safe to assume your friend will be.

[alti]

dont worry everybody i'm ok.

[Black Spot]

658491

[Straight Edge Ryan]

yeah honestly I doubt there's really anything to worry about. Yeah people have contracted cases here but no ones died. The reason more people have died in Mexico is well, Mexico's medical standards aren't quite as good sorry to say

Besides remember like 2 years ago when "bird flu" was a huge deal? The only people that are in real danger from catching this illness are either old people (because their immune systems aren't what they used to be) or really really young people i.e. babies (because their immune systems are developed enough yet). All us medium aged folks are fine, but I'm no scientist so take my opinion as you will

That having been said, if I think I'm going down I'm taking everyone within a 10 mile radius with me

[Kaffinated]

The Pigs have finally made their move! It was only a matter of time...

Mannnn we are fucked if the dolphins made a move! We must keep em happy with more fish. Also bide our time till a sneeky bastard figures out the awnser to 42.

[Kaffinated]

Never mind the dolphins already left! They knew all along that the swine flu was the start of the end!

Tankfully the left us a good bye on you tube
ojydNb3Lrrs

what kind chaps!

[`king]

Lol. Roll call teacher asked if anyone who has travelled outside the country recently and has symptoms of the flu apparent to see her after roll call.

They never came back.

But seriously. I mean there are only two outcomes possible.

1. Nothing will happen. Everything will go on as if nothing happened.

or

2. There is a huge outbreak. Researches discover this swine flu is actually some mad disease that renders the all major systems of the human body useless turning all infected into, for the lack of a better term, mindless zombies.
There is a huge quarantine but it's too late! The disease is airborne. All of humanity is left to suffer the fate of having to live in small airtight domes, built by the CDC back in 2011, only being able to exit in full body suits (yes, they are bright yellow :)), oxygen is scarce and the outer world is plagued by the wandering infected. Food is not easily found, many are starving to death, supermarkets are frequently raided. Firearms are rare yet necessary. Ammunition rarer still. Chainsaws are also nice.
A baby is born in a dome not far from NY. He is raised, but barley surviving.
The dome is raided by some form of super-intelligent version of the infected. Why they exist is unknown, anyone capable of figuring it out is dead.
The once-boy-now-man survives, hiding from the infected.
However he has been exposed!
But thanks to natural selection he discovers he has an immunity to the virus!
He wanders through the streets, in hopes of finding other life. In hopes of finding someone capable of saving all humanity.
He see's a bright yellow suit.
Tears are streaming down his face.
He can bring an end to all this.
He cries out and yells.
Waving madly, running towards the yellow figure.
The figure turns around. Raises his weapon.
And fires.
A bullet to the brain.
The man is dead.
And the fate of humanity along with him.
The one chance for humanity, mistaken for one of the infected (hey, that's why the suits are yellow.), shot down during the raiding of a supermarket.

I mean, they're two extremes, both I reckon are equally likely. Yeah far more likely than a happy medium.


(But I'm sure if the media stop beating this drum it'll just pass over.)

[ArtZealot]

The Daily Show had a good bit on this. Jon Stewart basically showed clips of all the news networks talking like this flu is armageddon, and reminded everyone that no one has even died yet in the US, and that the regular flu kills something like 30,000 people every year.

Other flu related news is that 18 month old child died from it today but thats the only person in the US. Oh, and cnn reports they have found "patient 0." Im no germ expert but im pretty sure that's a good thing.

[squidmonk3j]

there is talk of this being a bio-attack. And i tend to agree with that. Especially how the media is hammering it so hard.

GVCuY5EsSEo

:)

[droid84]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKLS541961

Phase 5 alert on its scale of 1-to-6 ... Another Global Pandemic ...

Wash your hands, Clean your fingernail's, Forget fast-food, and use Double Condoms!

[JailHouseRock2]

alesoun - haha, cheers and yeah I'd usually be the first to lough at something scary, but this one surprised me.


ArtZealot- Yeah cheers man, she's feeling fine now, like its just a normal cold, freaked her out at first tho, had to have 3 days quarantine.


This threads made it funny again:)

[Costau D]

irrationality is more of an pandemic than this flu.

[loveandasandwich]

http://doihavepigflu.com/

[droid84]

Do you remember "Large Hadron Collider" Thread and Issue of man-made BlackHole!?

[AsaB]

Other flu related news is that 18 month old child died from it today but thats the only person in the US.
True, but that child was a Mexican, visiting USA with its parents. So no US citizen has died.

Did you also know that only roughly 20 cases, out of those 150+ deaths in Mexico, are confirmed being from the flu? I think the media is hyping this up way too much. I'm reserving my panic for now, at least!

[Rist]

Every apocalypse has a precursor, a 'build-up' to events. This and the recession could be one of these 'build-ups' to 2012.

[Max Challie]

dont worry everybody i'm ok.

Exactly. If you decide you're fine, you are.

[Baron Impossible]

I'm red in the face from trying to give a shit

[Sorknes]

They changed its name. Good for the pigs.

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/35789_swineflupigs.jpg

[Hookswords]

It's important to have your priorities straight

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ieHZRubAS3lyjn2GBiCPkXkHrXwwD97QROAG0

[Jason Rainville]

It's important to have your priorities straight

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ieHZRubAS3lyjn2GBiCPkXkHrXwwD97QROAG0

Oh come the fuck on.

[Sorknes]

That's silly indeed. It's already renamed, duh. To Influenza A, or H1N1 Influenza A to be more correct.

Not like the media is gonna dump the term "swineflu" anyway though.

[Arshes Nei]

I think the drug war is more scary than the flu pandemic which may actually be more mild than the regular flu.

The only thing that bothers me is I'm tired of my extremely, obsessive germ-a-phobic co workers bringing anti-bacterial everything to work.

1. Flu afaik are a VIRUS. Anti-bacterial stuff don't work for shit.
2. Use regular soap and water for christsakes!! The whole reason germs are getting stronger is that the anti-bacterial stuff only kills 99% ...it's like the damn Highlander...the one that remains is a badass and will tear you up.

We need a few of those regular germs around anyways. I'm not saying "live like swine" but constantly disinfecting everything is not good when you can't let your immune system even act naturally.

[Sorknes]

Now I'll walk around carefully in my house peeking around corners just in case there's a germ anywhere wielding a sword yelling "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!"




:xpld:

[Baron Impossible]

The only thing that bothers me is I'm tired of my extremely, obsessive germ-a-phobic co workers bringing anti-bacterial everything to work.

I couldn't take that. I'd go into meltdown to be in the proximity of such ill-informed, ridiculous sheeple (that's a cross between sheep and people, FYI)

Here in the UK the majority of the population seems to be in a constant state of panic, invariably initiated by the gutter press, about whatever happens to be flavour of the month - the credit crunch, MMR, recession, rain, paedophiles, CCTV, cancer, ID cards, terrorism, knife crime, Muslims, flu - it doesn't matter, as long as they don't have to think for themselves and can contribute their bit to the illogial miasma of country-wide outrage and fear that clouds this poxy little island.

On the local news the other night this obese family were pictured actually running down the street weeping at the thought that the daughter might have attended her school at the same time as someone with swine flu. With tears in her eyes this hulking, mindless mother described the situation with outraged tones as if her little angel had been locked in a dungeon with an HIV-infected child killer instead of simply been in the same building as some kid with a sniffle. Fast food and lack of exercise will kill the bitch long before the flu and that's a fact. They closed the school, though. So that's good.

[Black Spot]

I read that and shook my head. My office has bought tissues and antibacterial wipes - everyone laughed. I used to get flu every year until I got married - I've had it once since then. It sucks but you get over it.

[B u r l]

http://doihavepigflu.com/

http://doihaveswineflu.org/

[Cryoxzonomony]

bring it on

[Enydimon]

http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm

I lol'd. Clever.

[VulgarDragon]

Boy, talk about worldwide hysteria!

I had a bit of scare when I learned of this virus and it was initally thought to be made up of 3 different types of influenza viruses (avian, swine, and human). But a new analysis showed that this flu strain appears to be a combination of 2 different swine viruses, one from America and other from Europe. It is possible that it naturally happened because the influenza virus mutates constantly, recombining with other genes....although it is a bit of a mystery of how a strain from Europe got mixed in with American strain. Of course, there is still the possibility that it was bio-engineered, perhaps by drug companies to increase profits from vaccines.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/swineflufarm/

Regular flu kills thousands and millions of people every year, and no one goes into hysterics every time there's a flu case or deaths. However, this strain is new and never seen before, and most of the people have no immunity against it. And many of the deaths in Mexico had been young people aged 20-40 which is very unusual. It's really hard to say at this point, but it appears that the virus is highly contagious and there are thousands of possible cases already incubating as I speak. The tallies from the WHO and the news are not accurate for they only represent confirmed cases...many people get sick but do not go to doctor or even get their sample submitted for testing. The laboratory tests for subtyping the flus takes 2-3 days because the virus has to be cultured first, and by the time results are found the virus already has spread to more than a dozen people. As for its virulence, it is hard to say but it is looking likely that it is no more dangerous than regular flu...but it can change as the virus mutates. Time will only tell.

[DeadlyFreeze]

There have been 17 actual confirmed deaths, I bet rectal trauma beats that daily.

[spawner187]

Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!! Cof!! sorry guys ......i couldn`t hold it....

oh!! i forgot to tell you i`m mexican. i already bought a shotgun, uv light, to be prepared.

but i was thinking....always in the movies the zombies are stronger(it`s suppose they are sick or half dead) than the healthy characters, maybe i will turn into zombie sounds better....Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!! Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!!Cof!! hahahahaha...

[Hookswords]

Freak out, here's a new new one

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090529/ap_on_he_me/med_new_african_virus

[Krato]

the word is sensationalism my sick friend. Ex when the SWINE FLU was spreading around in mexico and got some people sick abroad CNN was focused specifically on that. They had quotes and said things like "End of Humanity". I think that the "End of humanity" killed around 100 people..



Fun Fact: did you know that in the 70's their was a swine flue outbreak? The Flu killed one person while the vaccines killed 10 people. :D

[Peter Coene]

The thing that makes this swine flu so deadly is that we humans haven't been exposed to it during our evolutionary history, so we lack a good natural defense system towards it since it wasn't needed back then. This virus is common amongst pigs, it mutated to spread to people and then mutated again so it could spread amongst humans. It's just like the Black Plague, that virus have almost always been present in rodents like rats and gofers which had it as a common not-so-deadly disease, and they still have it, but when it mutated so that it spread to and amongsthumans then we got in trouble because of no natural immunity towards it. This is why it's more deadlier then the bird-flu, which haven't mutated yet to spread amongst humans.



I looked around on the net, and found som really, I mean really, disturbing things.

Pigs Hold Clues to Man-Made Flu
"Sang Heui Seo of Chungnam National University in Daejon, South Korea, entered six genetic sequences from pigs into GenBank in late October. Niman came across the data in late November, and noticed they contained between three and seven genes from the WSN33 virus, which was created in 1933 by a London lab that was researching the 1918 flu pandemic. The London lab found that the virus could infect mice, indicating that it might successfully infect humans, Niman said. He reported the presence of the human WSN33 genes in Seo's samples to WHO officials in early December."

So basicly it's man-made out of the Spanish flu which killed 100 million people worldwide, and have now spread to pigs and can now spread to and among humans.

http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/03/66824




And another alarming thing:

A year ago, the Center For Disease Control, CDC, bought hundreds of thousends of air tight seal coffins and ordered millions of bodybags.

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http://www.infowars.com/a-half-a-million-plastic-coffins/


It's a bit alarming, it's like they knew in forehand what was coming. That combined with the fact that this pig flu was man-made is horrifying.

Oh come on. We had swine flu in the 70's too. The only people who died of it were ironically the ones who were injected with a bad vaccination. This is just another example of people blowing things way out of proportion.

[ArtZealot]

Arent we all supposed to be dead by now?

[MiniGoth]

Who says I'm not? *goes off looking for BRAIIIINSS*

[waronmars]

I'm dead inside











hehehe emo flu

[nickmarshallvfx]

Day 4 of my sickness. Im weak and scrawny from no food but the fever seems to be easing up significantly now. Started using my legs again despite docs advice. Test results will be back in 2 days, by which time ill either be dead (swine flu) or fine (regular bug). Wish me luck lol

N