Conservatives Domestic Terrorists?

[Wiggles]

Is anyone else finding this frightening? If they think American war veterans are "domestic terrorists", while refusing to call foreign terrorists "terrorists" (changing War on Terror to the "Over Contengency Plan" to take care of the "Man-Made Disasters" -what a load-), who will they NOT call domestic terrorists? http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

Being a conservative, and a growing teen, I am scared to see the Department of Homeland Securty, operated by members appointed by our current president's administration, calling me out and placing me under surveillance just because they have speculation, under no credible evidence, I would strike out against my OWN country!

What an insult!

I love my country! That is why I supported the Tea Party April 15, 2009! Stop the progession to big government! Stop following the divisive tools that are being used to undermine and divide our society! Stop the deteriation of our Constitutional Rights! Stand up for our Constitution! Stand up for our Rights! Stand up for our Freedom!
Let us have our voices heard!

I am proud to be a Texan. Thank you Rick Perry, you are one hell of a hero!
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D97J48IO2.html

-Wiggs

[Ilaekae]

Welcome to what the rest of us have been going through for the last eight+ fuckin' years... How's it feel?


...and if I remember correctly, Texas doesn't have the right to secede from the US, but it does have the right to divide into four new states (could be wrong...), so why not do it? Just slice off three areas about a 100 square miles of desert each and move all the foreigners, gays, liberal bastards, and non-Christians into them. That should make the rest of the fuckin' state deliriously happy. :P

[DeadlyFreeze]

Welcome to what the rest of us have been going through for the last eight+ fuckin' years... How's it feel?

lol thread over

[s.ketch]

Being a conservative, and a growing teen

You will continue to be conservative or once you go to college you'll become a liberal. Either way, its fun to watch.

You know what else is fun to watch? All these people who are all of a sudden outraged at the same shit the people they support have been doing in the White House over the past eight years. Glen Beck is a hack and gave a performance so bad only Uwe Boll could have wrote it. It's all theatrics in the mainstream media these days.

Tea parties? Really? Do they even know what the original tea party was about? Spoiler: YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION WITH YOUR TAXATION. Just because you don't agree with the representation doesn't mean you don't have it. Obama is a US citizen, nobody gives a shit about middle names, and he's not a communist. There's a few people i'd like to teabag right now.

If Socialism is such a bad thing then why don't we get rid of all Socialist programs? There goes public school, public transport, public libraries, medicare, social security, and any other social program. Of course that would be good wouldn't it? The only people on welfare are lazy brown people right? Oh, and by the way, Obama has only been in the white house a few months. Those pesky tax rates you guys are protesting, guess who made them?

Go ahead, guess.



No really, I'll wait.



Come on.



Here's a hint:
http://democratmaker.com/Portals/18/President-George-W-Bush-Official-Portrait.jpg



It's called being the minority, welcome and enjoy your stay for the next seven years. The only thing that remains is the most rightly of right and the most butthurt of all. So the right is going to do what the right does best: fearmonger. SOCIALISM, TAKING AWAY YOUR DEFENSE, SPENDING ALL YOUR MONEY, HIGHER TAXES, DEAD BABIES, GAY MARRIAGE, AMERICA IS DEAD. Remember that war? Remember the tax cuts for the wealthy? Remember the drainage of social security? Remember the beginning of the recession? Now you know how we feel.

I don't care what Obama does from now on, these few weeks have been the funniest in a long time. Greatest president ever.

[ArtZealot]

Ilakae and buckweasel you guys just made my day. Both those posts were great.

[Bronke]

After the last 8 years of being labeled "unpatriotic" and a "traitor" for criticizing the President, I'm supposed to feel sympathy?

Too bad the rest of us never got to throw those temper tantrum, oops I mean "Tea Parties" that the Republicans threw. Teabagging is fun!

[Grief]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zZHT_alTccg/SbQrHrmLlRI/AAAAAAAACHo/Avf1mA-0HYg/s400/teabag.jpg
u r doin it wrong

[Kaffinated]

Im sooo glad i got outta Texas. The past 10 years in that place politicaly kinda sucked the big one. With W as the Governor and then decided he need a bigger desk and became the president of 'Merica then along came Rick Parry came along and im not too sure it was a improvement ( I was pulling for Kinky ) Also cant forget the HR rep Lemar Smith was one of four bastards that got the ball rolling on the Orphan Works bill.....thats not taking a huge steamy crap on anyone's rights at all. Then in the last election i couldnt get away from the Obama Hussein bs. This is only a small sampling of the fun that goes on in Texas aside from the blatant racism. Ausitin and the Spurs (thats if you like basketball) are about a few of the positive quality the state has to offer.

[Elam]

Originally Posted by Ilaekae
Originally Posted by Buckweasel


BDS really never goes away, does it? It will take a life time of therapy apparently. It's amusing how people who apparently are in principle against percieved civil liberty violations simply drop those principles when convienent.

What's interesting about that report is was the language your referring to was actually flagged by the DHS (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090416/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/napolitano_right_wing_extremists_9) own internal civil liberties lawyers, yet the report was rushed out anyway. Why? To coincide with the Tea Parties, of course.

The report describes "Rightwing extremism" broadly as “those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. (http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15670)
Catholics! Terrorists! Founding Fathers? Terrorists! The timing and tenor of the report is so amateurish as to be laughable.

After the last 8 years of being labeled "unpatriotic" and a "traitor" for criticizing the President, I'm supposed to feel sympathy?
No. Preferably you would have principles and stick up for them regardless of the political situation.

btw, there was between 250,000 - 500,000 people attending the Tea Parties nationwide. Pretty good turnout. July 4th is the schedule for the next ones. We'll see if this thing has legs.

[Straight Edge Ryan]

Coincidentally, me and my father were just talking about this yesterday. His friend Eric Newton is a Vietnam war vet and isn't a big fan of the Obama administration. In fact he criticizes it at every turn. Turns out he's been put on a watch list for it, apparently they consider it "unpatriotic sedition" or something like that, which is ironic seeing as America was founded on "unpatriotic sedition"

In any case, please remember that not all of us down here in Texas are racist, sexist, gun toting homophobes. Nor do we live on ranches. Nor is Texas one big desert. We don't dress like cowboys either. Or ride horses everywhere. And that thing on Family Guy about us executing the retarded also isn't true. So, yeah, I'd appreciate it if everyone would spread that piece(es) of info around

[Hyskoa]

Coincidentally, me and my father were just talking about this yesterday. His friend Eric Newton is a Vietnam war vet and isn't a big fan of the Obama administration. In fact he criticizes it at every turn. Turns out he's been put on a watch list for it, apparently they consider it "unpatriotic sedition" or something like that, which is ironic seeing as America was founded on "unpatriotic sedition"

In any case, please remember that not all of us down here in Texas are racist, sexist, gun toting homophobes. Nor do we live on ranches. Nor is Texas one big desert. We don't dress like cowboys either. Or ride horses everywhere. And that thing on Family Guy about us executing the retarded also isn't true. So, yeah, I'd appreciate it if everyone would spread that piece(es) of info around

Wouldn't it be easier to just move those 4 people that aren't, instead of trying to convince the entire world?

[N D Hill]

Those tea parties are fucking hilarious. Watching all the reactionary fox news puppets go out and cry Hitler because their bosses will be forced to endure a %3 tax increase. Where were you jokers during the Bush administration when they started the bailouts? Or when Gas prices were at their highest and EXXON Mobile was reporting record profits and investigations into oil speculators were mysteriously dropped? I could keep going but I don't have to. My guy already won. :P

Cry away.

R3Ebo4UhloU

[Wiggles]

Welcome to what the rest of us have been going through for the last eight+ fuckin' years... How's it feel?


...and if I remember correctly, Texas doesn't have the right to secede from the US, but it does have the right to divide into four new states (could be wrong...), so why not do it? Just slice off three areas about a 100 square miles of desert each and move all the foreigners, gays, liberal bastards, and non-Christians into them. That should make the rest of the fuckin' state deliriously happy. :P

I was a little too young to understand how the past 8 years really screwed people over. Please, enlighten me, my memory in political history goes back hardly even a year.

And you're wrong about Texas not being able to secede. We can. It is writen in our own Constitution when we were the Republic of Texas. And honestly, if we were to secede, we would be estimated to have the 10th best economy in the world. How you ask? Well think about it: we have acess to the Gulf for global trade, we have our own power grid and our own telecommunication (something many states do not have), our own source of energy (oil), and plentiful produce. Our taxes are very low in comparison to other states (we have no real state tax) which is a combination of a conservative led government and not taking any bailout money.

So tell me, since nobody has directly answered the thread's question: Are Conservatives Domestic Terrorists? The majority of the responces are about Bush... I'm not so sure how that corrilates but, OK!...

My main forcus, in case if it had gotten sceewed, was why would the Federal Government issue an order to put a particular class of individuals under survaillance? Why on Earth treat your own people as a threat? Why be so divisive? Because we're unhappy? Because we do not like to see our President appologizing for our idiocy (which I fail to see) to foreign leaders? Because he blantantly showed his own absorbed subservianence to Saudi's King? Because he has told a private business owning individual to step down from his company? Are you beginning to see why we are mad? Are these valid reasons to want to deem us as "domestic terrorists?"

And please, the taxes were to be expected. I have no idea how so many people missed the writing on the wall when they saw how massive the spending bill was. There was NO WAY that TAXES WOULD NOT INCREASE from such a massive spending bill!! Plenty of people opposed it, knowing the bailout was a terrible, TERRIBLE idea because kids like me and our children will suffer the ramifications of the ludicrous and insatiable nature of this adminstrations outlandish spending bill. I will admit, however, federal bailouts to banks makes sence, but bailing out private industries is when you cross the line. Why? If you begin to baby the private sector by getting them "bailed out" you are tainting people's minds with ideas suggesting it is okay to get federal money to survive and that it's okay for Momma Obama to demand private industry leaders to step down. I mean, the Feds gave them money, right? SO I guess they have the right to manipulate and re-structure the private industries that recieved parts of the spending bill. EEEH-UUUUR!!!!

People, please, get your heads on. It's called Social Darwinism and tax cuts: The stronger businesses survive while the weak one's die off. And while the businesses are duking it out, cut people's taxes to encourage spending! Not just that, but constantly tell the public how GOOD the ECONOMY IS NOT how BAD it is (something that our leader didn't do)!! With the duo combination going on, businesses will either get themselves out of debt's range or file bankruptcy and the money would flow around into the Feds pockets. It least would of stopped a good deal of the debt we've placed ourselves into.

Friends, we must be careful. Big Brother is watching not just the Conservatives, but soon the American People.

-Wiggs

[Bill]

Those tea parties are fucking hilarious. Watching all the reactionary fox news puppets go out and cry Hitler because ...



Hitler? Maybe your being a little extreme. Or maybe not... :nohope:


I would have enjoyed hearing these peoples' alternative solutions to fixing this mess.

[Wiggles]

Those tea parties are fucking hilarious. Watching all the reactionary fox news puppets go out and cry Hitler because their bosses will be forced to endure a %3 tax increase. Where were you jokers during the Bush administration when they started the bailouts? Or when Gas prices were at their highest and EXXON Mobile was reporting record profits and investigations into oil speculators were mysteriously dropped? I could keep going but I don't have to. My guy already won. :P

Cry away.

R3Ebo4UhloU


Can you please explain to me why the Tea Parties are so funny? I fail to see why people standing up against a chronic disease's infultration into our oval office and administration to be a roit. Please tell me why you're laughing.

Okay, if you look at your histroy, Bush was a Liberal leaning Conservative. His reaction to the failing economy (because of bad morgage loans, hold on! This has a point to it) was actually a counterreaction to his attempts at WARNNING us about the doom Fannie May and Freddie Mac would ensnare upon America (and he did so for 6 years, told you there was a point!).

I have no idea where that gas comment is coming from but okay! Yes, the price of gas did increase because of speculation. Um... how is that sequiter with Conservatives being "domestic terrorists?"

-Wiggs

[Wiggles]

Wouldn't it be easier to just move those 4 people that aren't, instead of trying to convince the entire world?

Are you insinuating that Texas is evil? There is no need to spell it out, your shallow commit says it all. You have claimed that "those 4 people" are the ONLY Texans that are civil? I'm sorry, but I just cannot take you're commit seriously. To post something unsupported with any evidence is not proving anything but you own arrogance. Please prove yourself so that I may be wrong.

I hate to be told a speculation - that I'm supposed to accept - answering a speculation. Where's the reason? Where's the facts? Where's the credible evidence? Where? I don't see anything but hollow words.

Redeem yourself!

-Wiggs

[N D Hill]

Keep this shit coming. This is gold.

[Wiggles]

BDS really never goes away, does it? It will take a life time of therapy apparently. It's amusing how people who apparently are in principle against percieved civil liberty violations simply drop those principles when convienent.


Catholics! Terrorists! Founding Fathers? Terrorists! The timing and tenor of the report is so amateurish as to be laughable.


No. Preferably you would have principles and stick up for them regardless of the political situation.

btw, there was between 250,000 - 500,000 people attending the Tea Parties nationwide. Pretty good turnout. July 4th is the schedule for the next ones. We'll see if this thing has legs.

Ahh, so someone does know what is going on!

Of course the oder was written in haste. The rhetoric is simplistic and makes many speculations and assumption that have no base. And yes, the order was released a few days before the Tea Party because they wanted to worry people about it. Thank you for noticing! :D

In its essence, the order is a tool: A tool to scare the public into thinking that Conservatives are domestic terrorists; a tool to scare the public into thinking that Conservatives are evil. I find it frightening that such an order even EXISTS! The idea of making such an order is sickening, but to actually have the audacity to make it? And to issue it? That is too scary for words.

We have a very divisive individaul is charge of commanding the leaders of these American departments. We have not been prepared for what is about to come.

-Wiggs

[Wiggles]

Keep this shit coming. This is gold.

At least someone is enjoying this.

(Yay?)

-Wiggs

[Wiggles]

Too bad the rest of us never got to throw those temper tantrum, oops I mean "Tea Parties" that the Republicans threw. Teabagging is fun!

Oh dear. I'm sorry you were missinformed!

This was not a Republican event. I cannot express my irritation towards how many people have made that common error. Bronke, this was an event shared by both sides of the spectrum. It was not one sided but dually sided.

We are the UNITED States of America. Appart we are feeble. Together we are strong. Both parties feel the unrest and need for action.

-Wiggs

[Hyskoa]

Are you insinuating that Texas is evil?
No, just that, if Texas would institute the execution of retards as legal necessity, there' d be no more Texas.
There is no need to spell it out,
Looking at the state of the American educational institutes and taking Bush as a Texan average, I'm not so sure about that.
your shallow commit says it all. You have claimed that "those 4 people" are the ONLY Texans that are civil? I'm sorry, but I just cannot take you're commit seriously. To post something unsupported with any evidence is not proving anything but you own arrogance.
You're right, that's just ridiculous, unlike religion and creationism.
Please prove yourself so that I may be wrong.

I hate to be told a speculation - that I'm supposed to accept - answering a speculation. Where's the reason? Where's the facts? Where's the credible evidence? Where? I don't see anything but hollow words.
I just follow the following rule, for every vocal moron I see from a specific region, there's 999 more that are not vocal. This leaves about 4 people left in Texas as an error margin who are still normal.
Redeem yourself!

-Wiggs

Gee golly gosh sir Wiggs mam, I never used mah noggin in such a super serial manner before to actually to have to redaim mahself. Whatever am I to do.

[kev ferrara]

Political Retardation in full effect.

Like suddenly now that Obama is in office, right wing nutjobs are being watched. Like the FBI hasn't been watching them all along. Like everybody's rights have been so crippled these last 8 years. No fucking conception of responsibility whatsoever. Complain complain complain and yet no attacks for 8 years. Ego infested hate fueled ingratitude. Somebody hands you your line-in-the-sand morality, and then you stand behind it and shout "fascism" and whine about laws you haven't read in between marathon bouts of World of Warcraft. Meanwhile, gitmo is still open, where that Koran wasn't flushed down the toilet, where the prisoners got fat on good food, and then at the end of the year they'll be transferred to some worse shit hole, but nobody will bother about them anymore because Obama ain't no fascist. And there are still methods being used by our government that at least somebody will find to be torture, we're still in Iraq, but everybody seems happier because the guy in the white house can speak English. As long as the symbol is your symbol, who cares about principles. Well the principles are all elective anyhow... pick a moral stance that will win the argument and begin arguing. I think Gitmo should be closed immediately and anybody who doesn't close it immediately is a Hitlerite Fascist human-rights defying war criminal. Okay, Obama... that means you. I've got the moral high ground now, wheres the World Court when you need it.

When Obama said he stood for post partisanship, I wish the frothing assholes of various political persuasions were capable of being postpartisan emotionally. Politics make people pathetic. Goethe was fucking wrong when he said, "The confusion of the real with the ideal never goes unpunished." Because nobody is paying attention anymore to the difference between subjectivity and objectivity. Its a fucking orgy of narcissism.

So we have a swooning nutjob like Glenn Beck crying for his country, Chris Matthews with a thrill up his leg, Rush Limbaugh as fat hypocrite asshole, Kieth Olbermann in a Clark Kent costume preening over his wit that he can express the simplest idea with the longest possible awkward construction. Fucking Michael Moore just plain making up shit, 9/11 conspiracy nutjobs proliferating because paranoia is being encouraged and critical thinking is shunned because it can't move product. And on and on and on...

You all should go fucking draw!



This has been kev

[Wiggles]

No, just that, if Texas would institute the execution of retards as legal necessity, there' d be no more Texas.Looking at the state of the American educational institutes and taking Bush as a Texan average, I'm not so sure about that.You're right, that's just ridiculous, unlike religion and creationism.I just follow the following rule, for every vocal moron I see from a specific region, there's 999 more that are not vocal. This leaves about 4 people left in Texas as an error margin who are still normal.

Gee golly gosh sir Wiggs mam, I never used mah noggin in such a super serial manner before to actually to have to redaim mahself. Whatever am I to do.

I guess there is nothing I can do to convince you to redeem yourself. This offence is all I needed to see.

But I hate you not for your verbal assault;

Diversity is a wonderous and terrible thing. People are allowed to continue to mock, ridicule, belittle, and scrutinize, - attack - others for their beliefs, traditions, and race and, honestly, though I think of it to be horrible, I respect your opinion;

For it is the Christian way to love thy neighbor.

Good day.

-Wiggs

[James Kei]

6SOPxuHAfss

[Kagemusha22]

You know what else is fun to watch? All these people who are all of a sudden outraged at the same shit the people they support have been doing in the White House over the past eight years. Glen Beck is a hack and gave a performance so bad only Uwe Boll could have wrote it. It's all theatrics in the mainstream media these days.


Glen Beck ya' say? Let's see what Mr. Charlie Brooker has to say about that tosser;

2aEk864YrKw

[James Kei]

Tea Party organizers purchased one million teabags to protest "wasteful spending". Consevative hipocracy at it's finest.
Apparently, they were going to dump them in Lafayette park. Then realized that is illegal, and they didn't have a permit to do so.
Logic and foresight is such a rarity these days.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/1-Million-Tea-Bags-but-No-Place-to-Dump.html

[the_jos]

Wiggs,

While I somewhat understand that you are upset by this it's not a new thing.
Domestic 'terrorism' has always been a bigger risk for a large country than foreign terrorism.
It's the same with murder, chances are far higher that you are killed by a relative than a random stranger. And you are far more likely to die in a car accident than to be killed by a terrorist. But we don't see it that way because our risk perception works otherwise.

Even before Timothy McVeigh blew up that building in Oklahoma City certain rightwinged organisations were watched. And after McVeigh this intensified.
Because people think/believe that he was related to such groups.
So nothing new so far.
Next veterans... Oh, Timothy was a veteran.
Next why look at certain groups. People with experience with guns/explosives are more likely to be able to cause terror with them. So from a profiling point of view they are making the obvious choices.

Can we go back to art now?

[Blue]

At some point you begin to see the futility of it all. It doesn't matter who is in office, someone will always be upset.

[Grief]

you guys, texas is SICK and TIRED of this oppressive government. like when they asked FEMA for assistance for wildfires, when they got federal military assistance for border control, like when they requested $29.4 billion for disaster relief for their hurricane problems. or last year when gov' perry asked for:

housing assistance $ 3.4 billion
critical Infrastructure $ 1.9 billion
economic development $ 545.0 million
economic development - gulf opportunity zone $ 14.3 billion
forestry, agriculture, and fisheries $ 1.1 billion
social services $ 1.4 billion
transportation $ 536.5 million
workforce services $ 570.0 million
educational services $ 712.7 million
navigation and waterways $ 3.2 billion
health care and mental health services $ 209.4 million
utility infrastructure $ 1.6 billion

he totally hated taking that money and help.

[Dimension]

You all should go fucking draw!

Hypocrite!

[Bronke]

Oh dear. I'm sorry you were missinformed!

This was not a Republican event. I cannot express my irritation towards how many people have made that common error. Bronke, this was an event shared by both sides of the spectrum. It was not one sided but dually sided.

We are the UNITED States of America. Appart we are feeble. Together we are strong. Both parties feel the unrest and need for action.

-Wiggs

Is it because Fox News (Who by the way, heavily promoted the shit out of the tea parties) said it wasnt? Or would you prefer that I call it a conservative event funded by corporate conservative lobbying groups instead? Because that's what they were.

And I appreciate you trying to unify the two parties except that's hard to do with a Nazi, fascist socialistic anti-christ and his followers in power. Or at least that's what I've been told by the other side.

[Meloncov]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't actually read the article you linked to. I say that is giving you the benefit of the doubt because the alternative, that you actually feel threatened because of a report on the Klu Klux Klan and neo-nazis, reflects dramatically worse on you.

[TASmith]

Straiught Edge Ryan:
"Nor is Texas one big desert."

Let's be honest now. I've driven through Texas, and those couple trees in the western half don't really count as forest. You could call it scrub land. On the bright side, your desert side is the nicer part. I especially liked finding the horned lizard by that last rest stop into New Mexico.

Wiggles
"I was a little too young to understand how the past 8 years really screwed people over."

Quick recap: Bush cut taxes by 3 trillion over a ten year period. In that same time he increased spending on two wars - one in Afghanistan, and one unnecessary war in Iraq. Both are ongoing and costly, both were based on miscalculation and were mismanaged. At the same time, nothing was done to regulate banks, which went out of control in get rich schemes, related to selling mortgages on the stock market. The law allowing this was actually signed by Clinton, however there still existed regulatory agencies with the power to put pressure on these banks, and the authorities in charge were all asleep at the wheel - as directed by the Bush administration (note the law repealing the Glass Steagall was the brain child of PHill Gram, a republican). All this led to the current recession, and the drop in the value of the dollar.

Kev, crediting Bush with no further terrorist attacks is a little narrow minded. You can't call it a success if Al Queda is still at large and operating freely, all throughout the world. Saying there weren't any other attacks, ignores the literally thousands of people killed in several major attacks throughout the world since then, plus the American soldiers killed daily by Al Queda in the places we've come to police. We've given them so many targets right where they live, they've been too busy to plan something over here, but the threat still exists.

Also Kev, it's pretty weak switching the blame to Obama when he's handed all these messes at once: the recession, two wars, and Gitmo. Especially considering he signed an order to close gitmo in the first week, he's set a time table to leave Iraq (something Bush only did at the close of his admin in a last ditch effort to help McCain get elected), he's set a much more comprehensive plan for Afghanistan, and he's done all within his power for the recession. And don't talk about Gitmo like it was a great place. It was a torture facility. Sure there are other secret prisons that are worse, outside the US - Obama's closing those too. It was just in the news.

Final Note:

Wiggles, don't get offended over these little political spats. So some official said he was worried about a rise in extremism. Maybe he has a good reason for it - there have already been numerous death threats on our new president. Don't take it personally - no one was talking about you. No one was talking about all conservatives, or saying all conservatives are extremists. And remember, historically, the biggest domestic acts of terror have been committed by conservative extremists, such as Tim McVeigh. There is some basis in reality for the warning.

[Dorkthrone]

Hitler? Maybe your being a little extreme. Or maybe not... :nohope:


I would have enjoyed hearing these peoples' alternative solutions to fixing this mess.

I don't think he's exaggerating. Godwin's Law. Eventually in every argument, a comparison to Hitler will be made.

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Ugh, I'm suddenly having horrible flashbacks of election time robo-calls from the republican party...

[Straight Edge Ryan]

For the record: I've always taken any and all criticism of Texas and its inhabitants with a grain of salt. I know many of you were here for the workshop and enjoyed yourself in our nice non-desert environments

But it's my humble opinion that there's too much concern over which political party will run the country. So much talk about whether or not our country should be run based on the left wing or the right wing that people forget that if you only have one wing, you just fly around in circles

Oh and for God's sake I wish people would stop comparing Bush to Hitler. I know some very old Jewish women that will tell you they are NOT the same. "Oh Bush wouldn't allow gays to get married? I remember when I was your age they came and took my husband and brought back a box of ashes. But yeah, that's pretty much the same thing"

[nonie]

Come on guys. There's always always someone putting out exaggerated news to frighten the easily-swayed. It's just how people make money and retain or gain control. Fear is an easy way to get people on your side. When I see something like this I take a look at who benefits most from stirring things up - the *fear* itself and not whatever the stupid news is warning us about. Who does it help if you go to a tea party? In the *immediate*? Think about it. Who makes money or gains power from you doing what they're telling you to do? Not you.

Pretty much every group in any country anywhere has extremists, and extremists could indeed commit acts of violence. The chances that they will and that you will be affected are pretty slim, but you can certainly hobble your own self worrying about it and give up some of your money or volition, and then they don't have to do anything, real or not, to have won. And there's always *something* to try to scare people with. People are really good at making up enemies to be excited about.

One of my good friends at work is a really conservative Republican dude. And we have a great time hanging out, started a little work book group (fiction, not political books) and you know what? I love the guy. We're great friends even though we don't agree on anything politically except that people should be decent to each other. If everyone would all just calm down and chill together a little more often, maybe we'd all make a lot of friends and have a better life :)

[Flashback]

I have a feeling this thread is going to be locked.

[kev ferrara]

TA, you've missed my point, I wasn't criticizing Obama. He's doing fine. I was criticizing partisans parrots like you. Your moral shell-game criticism of 8 years of relative safety is demonstration enough of your tell-tale incapability to appreciate. Which takes the form of choosing a paradigm of greater idealism (Actually, it is spoon fed to you by your media choice.) and then using it to "take the high road." Real easy to do when you're sitting behind a computer with no responsibility for anybody else's safety, no ideas on how to solve any of the problems, no responsibility for your suggestions if they do come, and no skin in the game.

How's this: I consider imprisonment to be torture. And don't you tell me different! Because you know it is, you immoral sicko. I would go out of my mind in prison and so would you. I would hate every second of it and would probably think seriously of offing myself. That's my morality. Therefore prisons themselves are torture chambers. Therefore Obama, who sanctions prisons here and across the world, is a torturer. All we need to do is get enough political agreement among the populist puppet sheep that imprisonment itself is torture, and bang, that new morality is established and Obama is in front of the world court.

And that's why politics is utterly detestable.

kev

[Bronke]

Oh and for God's sake I wish people would stop comparing Bush to Hitler.

Just so you know, no one in this thread did any such thing. The reference was to Obama being labelled as Hitler by the wingnuts.

And I agree politics is detestable but unfortunately whether you like it or not, our lives are affected and wrapped up by it.

[Jason Rainville]

Hey guys look what I did. (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2221466&postcount=648)

Come join me :D

[Straight Edge Ryan]

Just so you know, no one in this thread did any such thing. The reference was to Obama being labelled as Hitler by the wingnuts.

And I agree politics is detestable but unfortunately whether you like it or not, our lives are affected and wrapped up by it.

Oh I know, I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, just a general gripe about people who throw the word "fascism" around too often

True, it is pretty inescapable, so I'm going to do what I've always done, not let it get to me and hope I see the day when people no longer need leaders

[squidmonk3j]

you guys need a new anthem.

KotFMEt-a8Y

[Bill]

^ Yeah, I was just getting set to wonder "out loud" what the international [foreign :P] CA'ers must think about seeing threads like these. ...and I spent my afternoon drawing.

[Extollere]

I was Born and raised in TX, lived with my family until I was 20 and was taught by my parents and peers to just be conservative without questioning it. Moved to Seattle, Moved out, went to art school, got married, moved to California, got a little education, got some new friends. Full blooded liberal here now, probably as much as you can be. (Funny though how if you move anywhere else like Canada- my wife's homeland.. you're just a centrist) I love it on this side though, and I have had a hell of a time laughing at these tea parties, but mostly I feel bad for em, because I used to be there at one point in my life :( There is something in the head that blocks all reasoning and truth from them. I feel bad that most of them seem so frustrated with everything, but have literally no clue why. Anyways whatev. peace out.

[Extollere]

Btw... does anybody find it funny how these so called "Patriots" are actually more anti-American than the rest? Some actually want zero taxes, zero regulations, they reject tolerance of different religious, political, and lifestyle beliefs. Death threats to the POTUS, anarchy in the streets? It's just more hilarious that it's all in their minds. The protests of beer drinking, uneducated masses, barely enough numbers in group to call them a mass... I'd love to see them try and start an armed revolution.

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[Grief]

the lyrics say it all
ttDNvi6lAmU

[spaztastic]

Time to up my post count again.

It's interesting that all of the so called "right-wing-extremists" are the ones that would live, fight, die for your rights. that they are the ones who are trying to prevent our country from becoming a socialist marxist waste land of over taxation and moral ineptitude. I am the proud daughter of a vet, two in fact, and let me tell you what, it wasn't easy being uprooted every blanking three years, being moved all over the blanking world so my dad could serve his country... protecting YOU ALL! Now they the government are targeting him as a terrorist, which you the people he protected approve of, The only thing my Father is guilty of is loving this nation enough to protect and defend you all. now that being said.

Wiggs, I get where you are coming from. However don't get caught up in looking at this from a party point of view, look at it from a Christian one. Prayer and patience man prayer and patience.

BTW no big surprise here but I support the Tea parties, I also like PUMA (Political Unity My ASS, which is founded by DUN DUN DUN DEMOCRATS!!!), I support Pro-life ideas and movements. And YES. I am A Christian, so therefore I must be a right wing extremist... and therefore I must be a terrorist right?

What you people don't seem to understand is that this new Government is trying to cause disunity among it's people, it's trying to stir up civil unrest. and YES we the People need to STOP IT. WE THE PEOPLE are A UNITED FRONT! politics aside this government wants to change that. why is no one seeing that? does no one care? have you all forgotten the relative that gave their life for this great country? the friend? the Neighbor? have our lives become so self absorbed that we no longer care? These stimulus plans/taxes/bailouts are the straw that broke the camels back, the tea parties are just the beginning.
now I am done ranting I shall go draw before I get told to :P

[Bronke]

Time to up my post count again.

It's interesting that all of the so called "right-wing-extremists" are the ones that would live, fight, die for your rights. that they are the ones who are trying to prevent our country from becoming a socialist marxist waste land of over taxation and moral ineptitude. I am the proud daughter of a vet, two in fact, and let me tell you what, it wasn't easy being uprooted every blanking three years, being moved all over the blanking world so my dad could serve his country... protecting YOU ALL! Now they the government are targeting him as a terrorist, which you the people he protected approve of, The only thing my Father is guilty of is loving this nation enough to protect and defend you all. now that being said.

We all contribute to this country in one way or another. We have scientists and doctors making discoveries that make our lives better and even saving lives. We have teachers educating us. We firefighters and police protecting us. And so on and so on.

Don't act like the "right wing" leaning military are the only ones doing good for the country. Don't act like you are the only ones working for everything that we have. But don't mistake what I've said as a lack of respect for military.

Also, no one is approving that YOUR father should be the target of a terrorist watchlist. We're just pointing out the hypocrisy and irony of the right wing complaints since the rest of us already lived through all this in the past 8 years.

[s.ketch]

It's interesting that all of the so called "right-wing-extremists" are the ones that would live, fight, die for your rights.

Keep that in mind for an upcoming point.


that they are the ones who are trying to prevent our country from becoming a socialist marxist waste land of over taxation and moral ineptitude.

If you went to public school, you participated in socialism. If your parents, grand parents, or great grand parents on on medicare or receive social security, they are participating in socialism. The United States has always and always will used socialist programs for the benefit of the people. I know some of the ol' Cold War and Pre-Cold war feelings are still around, but most people know that they were misguided propaganda that had no actual meaning. Socialism is not evil, its not the end of freedom, nor is it the end of the world. In order to run a country successfully we have to be a conglomerate of different economies and political systems. Free market alone doesn't work, communism alone doesn't work.

Moral ineptitude has nothing to do with government. Its not yours or anyone's place to decide my morals. The job of the government is to be fair and make laws that pertain to the people ethically. For example, whether gay marriage is morally right or not isn't up to the government. Its up to each and every one of us to decide for ourselves. Whether you agree with it or not, whether your god says its wrong or not, the government's position is to make sure that a group of people aren't missing out on some civil rights. Ethics are for the greater good while morals are whats right according to you and I. The same goes for every other "moral issue." Not to mention that these are actually non-issues but are just silly things to argue over in front of a camera so the real questions don't get asked and to make people like us argue so we don't give a shit about the real questions. I don't want Obama decided that its morally reprehensible, and therefore illegal, to have a choice about what she wants to do with a pregnancy. These issues are too big to be standardized.

Now they the government are targeting him as a terrorist, which you the people he protected approve of, The only thing my Father is guilty of is loving this nation enough to protect and defend you all.

The thing is, he is still a potential terrorist. The first thing I quoted of you is proof. "Live, fight and die..." Hell, we're all potential terrorists. How far would any of us go to protect ourselves, family and rights? If the only thing that stood between me and everyone's freedom was a politician, I would gladly paint a wall with his brains in order to have it. So yes, I am a terrorist. I don't care what they call me though it's just great that the government is scared. But in our current situation, we are all far from that scenario. What's really happening is scary change. We're moving closer to a centerist nation and it scares the shit out of anyone who's conservative. I'm not saying its cool to be labeled that way, but I can see where they're coming from. Also, as stated before, the government has been watching right wingers and left wingers for a while. This is nothing new. It is just politically convenient for the right to bring it up at this moment.

Obama pushes the head of GM out of his job and the country erupts in "I DONT WANT GUBERMENT IN MY BUSINESS OH NOES OBAMA IS GOING TO START SHOVING US INTO OVENS NEXT WEEK" It was necessary. The people weren't holding accountable who they needed to, so government had to step in.

We finally have a president that is doing shit that needs to be done. Not just things that make constituents happy. Tough decisions are being made and not everyone, especially the right, is going to like it. And within the next few elections there will be a guy who comes along that makes Obama look like Rush Limbaugh and we're going to go through the same shit over again. The world keeps turning and life goes on.



What you people don't seem to understand is that this new Government is trying to cause disunity among it's people, it's trying to stir up civil unrest.

Civil unrest? Where? I work and go to school with people of various nationalities, ethnicity, races, sexes, and religions and nobody is fighting anyone. How about this: "What you people don't seem to understand is that the media is causing disunity among the people, it's trying to stir up hype and creating a hyperbole of reality." Yes, that's much better.

why is no one seeing that? does no one care? have you all forgotten the relative that gave their life for this great country? the friend? the Neighbor? have our lives become so self absorbed that we no longer care?

Let's correct this. JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR COUNTRY.

This is the same attitude taught to us by the Bush years. If you don't agree with the right, then you're unpatriotic.

These stimulus plans/taxes/bailouts are the straw that broke the camels back, the tea parties are just the beginning.
now I am done ranting I shall go draw before I get told to :P

These stimulus plans huh? You mean like giving everyone a $300-$600 dollar check? Yeah, that's just silly. These taxes? The tax rates haven't went up since January 21. The taxes we pay now are the same ones ol' Bush supported. See what I'm saying? You people are protesting the same stuff that people who you support did. This isn't the straw that broke the camel's back. This is the broken back that's been ignored for the past eight years, and the four before that, and the eight before that, and so on. This is the stuff that should have made you all so mad a long time ago. But it wasn't in the parties' best interest to act all pissed then. It benefited them then, it wouldn't have won over any votes. These tea parties are an act of desperation. The only tactic left is to scare people back over to the conservative side.

[Grief]

spaztastic you can swear, jesus doesn't check every thread like elwell.

i wrote a full rant about the right that woulda made ilaekae blush.. buti decided against posting it, as i'm not very eloquent with making points about things i only partially understand.

i support activism, the people should be discussing ways to better their country. the right to assembly is really nifty.
the april 15th annual rally against taxes has been used by both sides of the political spectrum. in previous years, liberals have been using it to protest their tax dollars being spent on war. this 'tea party' thing is nothing new. but it does seem strange that the liberal jew-run media would choose to promote the activism this year when the voices behind them are so dominately on the right. weird huh? and maybe it isnt te best idea to protest taxes at local parks, and enforced by the police... both of which are thanks to taxes. but maybe next year they can get it right, i promise you the right to assembly will still be around.

my big gripe with the protests is that there was a lot of ugly and detestable racial shit going on that we really need to get over.

[s.ketch]

Grief, then that means Jesus does check every thread.

[Grief]

wait are you insinuating that elwell doesn't check every thread then?

blasphemy!

[spaztastic]

BuckWeisel:If you went to public school, you participated in socialism.
Damn right. Which is why I chose to attend a private academy!


We finally have a president that is doing shit that needs to be done. Not just things that make constituents happy. Tough decisions are being made and not everyone, especially the right, is going to like it. And within the next few elections there will be a guy who comes along that makes Obama look like Rush Limbaugh and we're going to go through the same shit over again. The world keeps turning and life goes on.

AHEM! Excuse me!!! We FINALLY have a president that is doing something? Now before I go in depth on this let me state. I DON"T LIKE GWBush OK. Not A supporter not a fan.
Obama is not doing anything except taxing us, our children and our childrens children into financial slavery. So if that is what you mean by A president who is finally doing something then yes, yes we do have one of those. There are plenty of presidents that have done far better things than Obama. the last 16 years excluded!

Civil unrest? Where? I work and go to school with people of various nationalities, ethnicity, races, sexes, and religions and nobody is fighting anyone. How about this: "What you people don't seem to understand is that the media is causing disunity among the people, it's trying to stir up hype and creating a hyperbole of reality." Yes, that's much better.


You don't consider 500,000-800,000+ peoples in over 750+ cities banding together to form a protest civil unrest? it's a form of it. I will agree about the MSM, especially ABC, CNN, MSNBC, being some of the biggest LIARS and CULPRITS out there.

These stimulus plans huh? You mean like giving everyone a $300-$600 dollar check? Yeah, that's just silly.

what YOU don't seem to understand is that it's not the Government giving you their money, it's the government giving you BACK YOUR money! which they will just tax out of you at a later date and time with some added interest. so yes it damn frickening silly.

[s.ketch]

what YOU don't seem to understand is that it's not the Government giving you their money, it's the government giving you BACK YOUR money! which they will just tax out of you at a later date and time with some added interest. so yes it damn frickening silly.

Then why weren't there any tea parties when GWB mailed those checks?

Obama is not doing anything except taxing us, our children and our childrens children into financial slavery.

Where? Where are the extra taxes? Do I have to scan a pay stub from last year and one from last week? On the other hand if I were the owner of oh...lets say...Fox news and I belong to the top 1% percent of society then yeah, your my are going to go up. Damn Obama for trying to minimize disparity between the social classes and all.

So have fun protesting a currently non-existent tax increase that most likely wouldn't apply to you anyways for a group of people who are mad that they are going to start paying a reasonably proportional amount of taxes to their ridiculously high income.

In b4 "What about the small business owners!"

[spaztastic]

Grief:i support activism, the people should be discussing ways to better their country. the right to assembly is really nifty.
the april 15th annual rally against taxes has been used by both sides of the political spectrum. in previous years, liberals have been using it to protest their tax dollars being spent on war. this tea party thing is nothing new. but it doesseem strange that the liberal jew-run media would choose to promote the activism this year when the voices behind them are so dominately on the right. weird huh? and maybe it isnt te best idea to protest taxes at local parks, and enforced by the police... both of which are thanks to taxes. but maybe next year they can get it right, i promise you the right to assembly will still be around.

It's not that they don't support taxes it's taxes with out FAIR representations, like the ones that Obama is doing, they remind of the extremely controversial dice tax that King George imposed on the Americas back in the 1760's. I will gladly pay taxes for Police, parks, sewage, firefighters, and other good upstanding things. However I will not pay taxes for Planned Parenthood, Abortion clinics, socialist schools that go over the parents parental rights, or for illiegal alines to live here for free, and then be able to collect income tax returns, get free medical, and housing.


and might I ask why you emphasize Jew run media?

[Bronke]

You don't consider 500,000-800,000+ peoples in over 750+ cities banding together to form a protest civil unrest?

Gee, that number seems to grow bigger as time goes by. Even Fox News (The unofficial promoter of the 2009 Tea Parties) said it was around 250,000 when I watched it a couple of days ago.

[spaztastic]

Then why weren't there any tea parties when GWB mailed those checks?


because GWB didn't get us into how many trillion dollars worth of debt while being in the white house less than 4 months, maybe that's why? GWB at least waited till his second term before doing that :P

[spaztastic]

Gee, that number seems to grow bigger as time goes by. Even Fox News (The unofficial promoter of the 2009 Tea Parties) said it was around 250,000 when I watched it a couple of days ago.


hmm I checked other sources than just the MSM,
meaning people that had actually attended, websites that promoted and endorsed, chat rooms for the attendee, and local newspapers.

[Bronke]

I've been checking multiple sources for an estimate and found anywhere from 111,000 to 300,000. Nowhere near the 500,00 to 800,000 that you cited. You can go check again if you like.

[Bronke]

because GWB didn't get us into how many trillion dollars worth of debt while being in the white house less than 4 months, maybe that's why? GWB at least waited till his second term before doing that :P

Wait hold up. You think the new guy put us into this deficit in 4 months? Or are you just joking?

[spaztastic]

I've been checking multiple sources for an estimate and found anywhere from 111,000 to 300,000. Nowhere near the 500,00 to 800,000 that you cited. You can go check again if you like.

I have done plenty of checking, how about this. you show me yours and i'll show you mine.

but just for grins and giggles here.
there were between 1500-5000+ participants per city. more for larger less for smaller. small towns of only a few thousand still had turnouts of 200-300 people. this plus no coverage beforehand, no advertisements. all done by word of mouth and blog spheres. that is fricken amazing.
I think the opp is just jealous, since they only had turnouts of what.... maybe 1500-3000 people. in one city there were only 12 members of ACORN to the 11,000+ tea party participants.

Wait hold up. You think the new guy put us into this deficit in 4 months? Or are you just joking?

*gasp* OH My word your right! how could I have ever been so blind, you have truly opened my eyes to the ONES truth!
yes I am saying that Obama's Trillion + bailout is what caused this mess. GWB only adds insult to injury.

[s.ketch]

because GWB didn't get us into how many trillion dollars worth of debt while being in the white house less than 4 months, maybe that's why? GWB at least waited till his second term before doing that :P

...

You think the national debt went from $0 to $1,000,000,000,000+ since Obama became president? You think he caused the economy to fuck up? Presidents inherit economies, they do not create them. We've been gaining debt long before Obama. National debt is built into our supposedly perfect free-market economy. Congress even wrote up the 700 billion bailout before he even took office. This storm was coming for a while. McCain would have done the same thing.

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oh, and charts are fun.

[Blahm]

i dont watch main stream media so i dont really know/care what they think of the right wing at the moment.

[Ilaekae]

Please read my signature.

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[Kaffinated]

Please read my signature.

By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth.
George Carlin

[Elam]

Originally posted by Extollere
The protests of beer drinking, uneducated masses
Beer Drinkers = Plebian, blue jean wearing rabble?

Who knew?

I need a drink.....

[Bronke]

*gasp* OH My word your right! how could I have ever been so blind, you have truly opened my eyes to the ONES truth!
yes I am saying that Obama's Trillion + bailout is what caused this mess. GWB only adds insult to injury.

Oh.

I didn't realize that we somehow wandered out of reality here. Sorry but you're out of your mind.

[spaztastic]

BuckWeisel:You think the national debt went from $0 to $1,000,000,000,000+ since Obama became president? You think he caused the economy to fuck up? Presidents inherit economies, they do not create them. We've been gaining debt long before Obama. National debt is built into our supposedly perfect free-market economy. Congress even wrote up the 700 billion bailout before he even took office. This storm was coming for a while. McCain would have done the same thing.
You obviously think I am that f*king stupid, as to think that Bush didn't screw us over before Obama? I know he did, but Obama added to the that debt by a trillion dollars. our debt is now at 3.7+ trillion. I know Bush helped, but damn HE DIDN'T HELP THAT F*KING MUCH! Hell Clinton helped out alot too then, no one ever mentions MR teflon himself anymore.
Obama and his Cabinet our Fricken morons that wouldn't know how to run a damn hot dog stand and keep it out of debt for more than a month.

Back to the issue at hand. Why the hell all of a sudden is there a damn statement that says to treat all conservatives or Christians or Catholics or any one that disagrees with Obama as possible terrorists? what the Frick are they so afraid of that they would need to send that out as a mandate!

[Grief]

planned parenthood is a total scam, they don't even give you practical advice like turning condoms inside-out to get an extra use out of them.

abortion clinics? i can hand our wire coat hangers for much ceaper. back-alleys make for a better story anyway.

socialist schools that offer an education that goes over the parent's parental rights? the things that go over the parents in all fairness make whoosing noises as they go over.

illegal aliens are subhuman. we should deny them the chance to achieve their dreams because they weren't born on our soil. their silly sombreo hats protect them from the weather, so i dunno why they would want houses. all illegal aliens are mexican right? lou dobbs wouldnt lie to me. if illegals are paying taxes and getting tax returns, but don't have an SSN then they are obviously mocking our system and making a joke of our work ethic. they tewk arr jeeebs.

about the jews in the media: i can hear them hissing off camera.

[spaztastic]

Oh.

I didn't realize that we somehow wandered out of reality here. Sorry but you're out of your mind.


That my good sir is shit. My name should say it all. Get it right.

[Bill]

I think that whole spiel about "averting another depression" was just a convenient excuse for Obama to borrow the trillion. That fucker was ALWAYS going to borrow the trillion wether we needed it or not. That Bush left him a grease fire of an economy is just Obama getting lucky enough to have an excuse.

I think it's great that all these protestors are upset about what these taxes are going to cost them but how much did deregulation cost their 401k's, their home equity, and what did it do to their job prospects? Where's the tea party on account of all that? Oh... here (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/04/politics/main4571289.shtml) it is.

[s.ketch]

Why the hell all of a sudden is there a damn statement that says to treat all ... Christians or Catholics or any one that disagrees with Obama as possible terrorists?

Who the hell said that? The gov't website didn't even say anything about Christians.

Read my signature.

[Grief]

ps: i still love you spaztastic regardless of my sassy posts.

[spaztastic]

planned parenthood is a total scam, they don't even give you practical advice like turning condoms inside-out to get an extra use out of them.

[QUOTE]abortion clinics? i can hand our wire coat hangars for much ceaper. back-alleys make for a better story anyway. what makes you think a scalpel/scissors burning saline is any safer???

socialist schools that offer an education that goes over the parent's parental rights? the things that go over the parents in all fairness make whoosing noises as they go over.
You obviously don't have any kids yet. so you wouldn't understand.

illegal aliens are subhuman. we should deny them the chance to achieve their dreams because they weren't born on our soil. their silly sombreo hats protect them from the weather, so i dunno why they would want houses. all illegal aliens are mexican right? lou dobbs wouldnt lie to me. if illegals are paying taxes and getting tax returns, but don't have an SSN then they are obviously mocking our system andmaking a joke of our work ethic. they tewk arr jeeebs.

hell I wouldn't care if they at least tried to learn English, and paid taxes. a MAJORITY OF THEM DON'T, those are the ones that should not be here, the ones that abuse the system and force us to pay for them. And I am not speaking of Mexicans in particular,I was actually referring to any one here illegally skin color aside!
about the jews in the media: i can hear them hissing off camera
a little anti-Semitic are we?

Grief my darling you make me smile. I love your replies whether or not I agree with them.

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[spaztastic]

Who the hell said that? The gov't website didn't even say anything about Christians

It was sent out to all the police departments that they were to profile any one with. Anti abortion bumper stickers, Anti Gay Marriage bumper stickers, Anti Obama Bumper stickers, Anti Illegal Immigration Bumper stickers, Anti Tax Bumper Stickers, conservative bumper stickers, non-partisan bumper stickers, neo natzi bumper stickers (which should be a no brainer). Any one who would be considered to have extreme views. Christians, Catholics, Conservatives, Veterans, skin heads(again no brainer). These people are to be treated as possible terrorists and dealt with as such! I have the original letter I got this from if you want it?

[s.ketch]

I have the original letter I got this from if you want it?

Nah, I don't read chain letters that are forwarded to my e-mail account.

[Grief]

i met Mr. T when i was 6. i need to find a picture of it because i'm wearing totally sweet 1991 neon colors and a fanny-pack.

and with that, i will make a long-overdue departure from posting in this thread. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ninjau1/Grief.gif

[spaztastic]

I think that whole spiel about "averting another depression" was just a convenient excuse for Obama to borrow the trillion. That fucker was ALWAYS going to borrow the trillion wether we needed it or not. That Bush left him a grease fire of an economy is just Obama getting lucky enough to have an excuse.

I think it's great that all these protestors are upset about what these taxes are going to cost them but how much did deregulation cost their 401k's, their home equity, and what did it do to their job prospects? Where's the tea party on account of all that? Oh... here (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/04/politics/main4571289.shtml) it is.

bill, you confuse me so. I don't know wether you are pro tea party or pro obama!!! meh doesn't matter really as long as you wear that fireman's hat and post it in the wdell ;)

[Craig D]

Spaz,
wanna buy some nice swampland in Florida?

[Bill]

I can usually spot the terrorists by their bumper stickers.

[Bill]

bill, you confuse me so. I don't know wether you are pro tea party or pro obama!!! meh doesn't matter really as long as you wear that fireman's hat and post it in the wdell ;)


Lemme drop a quick 40 pounds and get back to ya ;)

[Bronke]

Christians, Catholics, Conservatives, Veterans, skin heads(again no brainer). These people are to be treated as possible terrorists and dealt with as such! I have the original letter I got this from if you want it?

Considering the majority of Americans are Christians and Catholics, I wonder how big our Gitmo would have to be to detain all these potential terrorists.

Oh wait, maybe they are only targeting extremists and not all God fearing people! Even you point that out but still seem worked up about it. You don't seem THAT extreme to me. Hmm.

[spaztastic]

I can usually spot the terrorists by their bumper stickers.
i know right?

[daestwen]

Okay, sorry folks. I've had enough, this thread is going no where fast except random insults, so I'm closing it.