November 2002 Guest SP

[jhibbs]

a friend and i have been comparing our older works to recent SP's, the progress shown by everyone participating is incredible and over a short period of time. i dont ever wanna stop :P

oblio-wow, you continue to surprise me, excellent job on this one, i like the pose and the collar, looks like a character design. keep it up

blackhawk-nice charcoal, the one eye is looking in an odd direction but great other than that. i like the ink ones as well. you jump around to a lot of different mediums. finding any favorites?

taff-looks great, wasnt sure if id like it toned after liking the lines so much but you did a nice job on it.

zippzopp-thanx a lot man, consistent is the last word id use to describe how i feel right now, so its good to hear it :D

keyth-your avatar looks 3-d, did you touch it up? like the red-green on that last one, i gotta try the compliments sometime.

ok everybody, i was working on my SP in painter for about an hour when one of those crazy zooms occurred, causing me to lose everythign id done. i was suprisingly ok with that (maybe im getting more detached from my work by making these) anyway, my girlfriend asked me to make her a picture, so here it is (from photo) and a quick SP i did earlier today when the sun broke out for a few minutes.

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/8.txt

about 5 minutes
http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/nov13.txt

[keyth]

thanks ilex!:p

jhibbs: i didn't do any touching up on the ol'avatar. it's the same "scary" spod form page 11.

nice work everyone. cheers.

KEEP'EM COM'N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:chug:

[Blackhawk]

I did another ink one tonight. I lost control of it though. I find myself rushing and ruining my pieces lately, I'm going to try to get some more presicion and control over my work again. I had to take the scan of this one into painter and tweak it and add a few things, so this was pretty much my first analog to digital inking piece. Took me about 35 minutes.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod58.jpg

Jester - Thanks for pointing me out to the alcohol tip. I actually remember reading that in one of El coro's thread now, but it became lost in the recesses of my brain for some reason :D Your nose and lips are getting better, the nose angle still seems off a bit. I'm running into the same problem with my stuff as well. Keep pounding at it bud, good to see you working those values more. Excellent.

Cotron - This definitely looks like an angry SP. Good to see you got it out of your system. Keep it up man.

Grooveholmes - Still no mirror... you cheap bastad :P Kidding, great job on your last bunch. I love how your mixing up your style with that ever prominent CD ring :D

MindCandy - You are definitely improving man. If you want to practice values more, I'd recommend trying charcoal as well. It's easy to manipulate the values with it and you can get the rich contrasts with it. You can do the same pencil as well, just make sure to get some high B's, like 4B on up. 6B kind of works around like charcoal, but it has a gloss to it. Don't be afraid to pull contrasts out. If it helps, set up really strong lighting so you throw deep, dark shadows on your face. It'll make it easier to spot the values.

Hexal - Listen to Oblio. He has some great advice. It's good to see you working a lot, now try to concentrate all your effort on one SP and try to nail the proportions and form as best as you can. Don't even consider the time, work on it for 5 or 6 hours if it leads to that. It'll be a great learning experience. Keep working at it, we'll be here to help you along.

Oblio - Thanks bud :D I'm extremely impressed with your progress. You have the coolest eyes on your SP's. That's the one thing that always strikes me is how well you do the eyes. I'll be waiting for that charcoal piece from you. :D

Bwiseman - I actually like this one a lot. You have the form nailed, absolutely nailed. If you gave me 10 minutes to do one, my face would look like it was blind-sided by a semi :D

Taff - Great job on that one man. You rendered it very well. The luminescent eyes really caught my attention. Good job.

Keyth - Great work as always. I'd love to see you do an SP in pencil like you do your concepts. I think that would kick absolute ass to see your great pencil rendering on an SP.

ZippZopp - Yeah, I noticed my pupil was over too far last night too. I tried correcting it, but no go. Your proportions are coming together on these, very nice job with the last couple of SP's.

ilex - That came out very nice. You did a lovely job on the eyes.

Jhibbs - I like the ink, but I don't really have a favorite other than pencil mostly. I'm finidng myself more and more relying on trying different mediums all the time though because it feels like I stagnate if I stick to one medium for too long, if you know what I mean. The eye is looking in an odd direction though, good eye (no pun intended, honestly :D) Great job on these two, your GF is very stunning.

Have a great Friday everyone.

[miasmak]

@MindCandyMan, is this the same person from a few weeks back, unbelievable. The nose is so cool. You can do it.
@Hexal to my taste, you need to be a bit more careful. Really look at the light and the shapes before you make a mark.
@Oblio Sorry to hear about the job man. The viewer left hand eye is squinting in a bit too much, nice nose volume
@taff super realistic, man do you have patience. Was this from a photo or did you use a mirror?
@keyth wew, your jaw isn't dislocated anymore, judging by the look in your eye it may happen again any minute. Intense menacing atmosphere you created there with the colours.
@ZippZopp the volumes are looking good, maybe something to make the nose look like its coming forward a bit
@ilex I love the line work here. The eyes are not quite in line tho
@jhibbs lovely loose blurry if I squint it looks even better
@blackhawk I really like your energetic ink sp's Also because once the ink is on the paper you can't go back. The white as a hilight on the ear, neck and nose works for me but the line on the upper lip and the hilight in the pupil are a bit out of place.

[MindCandyMan]

I guess it's time to come clean with you guys. I haven't been drawing myself true to my likeness. I hate to say it...I am the hamburger helper guy. On the commercials they made me look better with all that make up and stuff...but here I am naked...the naked truth.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 56 pencil hand sp.jpg



Blackhawk - I love this latest one. It is really awesome. Excellent work man excellent. I will try out charcoal this weekend. I will put a spot light on me as well and try to duplicate that lighting. Thanks for the suggestion bro. Thanks for the kind words too...it helps to get encouragement. :)

jhibbs - wow sorry to hear that man...You should be able to reload your script if that happens. Check your scripts and it should say the date and time you were working. They do that so you can pick up where you left off in a crash. Check it out...it stays in painter for like 2 days I think. That picture of your girlfriend is really great. Really well done. It's a little dark but I like it that way!

ilex - I really like this one a lot. Great to have you as an addition to this thread. Your stuff is very good and captures a lot of emotion. One suggestion for this recent one is to render the nostrils in perspective a little more. They are too straight up and down if you know what I mean.

ZippZopp - You are dead on about the lighting on that last one I did. Thanks for keeping me in check. Next time I will try to think about the lighting in totality before I start. I like this one...keep up the good work. One suggestion...try to use a lighter shade of the skin tone you choose for the highlights. The white is a little too strong I think. Great work man!

keyth - Awesome portrait man. I love the colors. They are great. Thanks for the info too. What brand of mechanical pencil do you use? Thanks.

Hexal - Great job keep em coming. The first one looks like a big improvement over your previous ones. Listen to Blackhawk he is very good. He is right about you spending more time. Most people here probably spend an average of an hour and a half on their self portraits. The more skilled can do it more quickly but capturing a likeness is a hard thing. The weekend is coming up. Get up early on Saturday morning (this is what I do...may not work for you hehe) and take your shower...get totally ready really quickly...then spend the next 4 hours drawing. Spend all that time on one self portrait. Draw the outline of your head until you have it exactly then make each feature as extremely precise as you can. I think you will like the results. Good work bro...keep em coming and keep working...once a concept *clicks* in your brain you will see instant improvement.

taff - I love this one...the hands are rendered quite nice. Great work bro...this has so much mood. Awesome.

bwise - Looks pretty awesome to me.

jester - You are absolutely right. The nose and the lips are tremendously better. Great work. I am an independent film maker so you are appealing to my "widescreen" side by posting that heheh. Thanks for the kind words...great work man.

Oblio - You are dead on...I use an HB for everything but I am afraid to push hard sometimes hehe. I will try to push the contrast more of some of my later stuff. Thanks for the kind words bro...you are coming along nicely yourself that's for sure!

miasmak - You are not behind you are growing tremendously! Thanks for the kind words. Your stuff has raw emotion in it. I love it. Keep em coming. I especially loved your pencil ones that you posted.

Everyone else - You all rock...thanks for inspring me through this thread.

[Grooveholmes]

Hibbs, that painting of your girl is fantastic.

Ilex, this one turned out really nice.

Keyth, I likes this one. It almost has the appearance of wet clay. Heh heh, i get my car back today.. I should be getting a mirror soon.

Blackhawk, I like these real gritty ones.

Sorry everybody. I can't post last nights portrait.. I did do one but i had been awake for over 30 hours at the point that I was working on it.. SO, my brain was extremely discombobulated. and it came out vaguely retarded.

New stuff to follow...

[jester]

I felt like using my Prismacolor Pencils again today (for Germans: KarismaColor). I think it came out quite nice though the mouth-nose-alignment is somehow off.

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-037.JPG

Jester


@bwiseman - nice piece of shit ;)

@taff - whjat can I say but chime in into the others' hymn?! Great rendering!

@Hexal - you're getting there, continue!

@keyth - I like your more defined ones better. This is too blurred for my taste.

@ZippZopp - your eyes are unevenly sized and the tip of your nose points down too much

@ilex - very nice, only your left eye seems a bit too large compared to the right one (a mistake I like to do myself)

@jhibbs - wonderful painting of your girlfriend.

@Blackhawk - I guess that you added the whites in PS, didn't you? They look great and give your drawing a special look! Tried to put in more values today, hope I didn't get too dark.

@MindCandyMan - independent film maker? Wow, sounds veeeerrrryyy interesting. I love watching those Making of docus they add to DVDs nowadays. Comment to your portrait: :D :D :D LOL :D :D :D

[jhibbs]

MCM-thanks a TON for the tip, i never knew about scripts. that coulda saved me another one i lost a few months ago :p
oh and i laughed my ass off after i read the caption for your picture :p

blackhawk-the added black is a bit destracting but i like the added white parts... i was gonna ask what kinda white ink you use ;) and thanx, i feel privledged to be around her ;)

jester-thanks, i was quite pleased with it as well (for a change) not bad on the prismacolors, but it seems a little underworked (the light values dont stand out enough) maybe try a darker BG on the light side and reverse it on the dark side.

ok didnt really feel pleased with this one anyways but here it is, finally decided to try other brushes, this one's all square chalk:

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/saved.txt

[draz]

Hey guys!

Extreme newb here posting my first SP. I just want to say how inspiring this place is. I've learned something from everyone in this thread in the few days I've been here and I figured I just had to take the plunge and join in the fun. :)

I'm going to try to be a regular contributor and hopefully with alot of effort and some guidance from you all I'll be able to make steady improvements.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/nov14.jpg

[Nold]

Ok, here are at least some comments.
Blackhawk: Thank you for the tips on anatomy you gave me some days ago. I really appreciate it. Your pictures are wonderful.

Hermchen: Thanks for the congratulations on my birthday. And thanks for the step by step. It's very useful.

Mindcandy: Wow, you are improving a lot. And by the way, the hair is still where it belongs.:D

Alger Langdon: I really admire your work. Some of the pictures look almost photo - realistic, but they still have the artistic touch that a photograph will never have. Keep it on !

taff: Very cool stuff. I'm looking forward to see more.

jhibbs: Keep up the good work, I love the colors.

Sorry to keep it so short, but the job is killing me this week. I hope it will get better tomorrow.

[miasmak]

I was doing painstaking value studies in sharp pencils today so I thought I'd relax a bit with a SP in Painter using dry ink brush. Guess the neurons have done their fireing job today and I couldn't concentrate. I should follow my own advice about being careful. There is absolutely NO likeness at all but here it is anyway.
http://www.jsim.com/cg/spod28-1s.JPG

@draz welcome.

I'll try to fit in some comments tomorrow

[bwiseman]

I'd have to say I like today's a lot more than yesterday's! Thanks for all the comments on yesterday's, I really think it sucked, but apparently you all thought differently.

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2014.jpg

blackhawk: Awesome feel to this one! Very intense.

jhibbs: Your girlfriend is hot.

jester: I agree, your nose looks like it is pushed up and little bit, but the rest of your face is looking ok. The ear might be a little small, though.

[Lionel]

Damm everyone is getting soo much better. Sorry for not writing any crts Again but I really need to go to bed *sigh*. Never seem to have enough time.

http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me37.JPG

[Hexal]

Here today, i took more time on it a little more then a half hour, but im not sure about the portortions ....

Nov 14
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port23.jpg

[ZippZopp]

another shot with the loaded palette knife tonight. its a really cool tool, i'm liking it. gives a little feeling of the airbrush from photoshop, but adds some variation to it, which i like

oh and, it definatly looks like my nose is pointed down too much, but thats exactly the way it is, i can actually touch my tounge to my nose...hahahahaha

http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1115.JPG

hexal: keep working buddy, you're gettin there, keep paying attention to proportions, measure it out!

Lionel: thats one of the better ones i've seen from you, nice job with it

bwiseman: nice lighting, kinda surreal

draz: great portrait, for being your first, looks like you got all the proportions correct, nice job! i'd like to see more!

mindcandyman: cool idea with the hand portrait, i think it would look sweet if you had a face popping out of the hand a little bit

blackhawk: nice job, seems like you got a pretty good handle on a range of traditional materials. i really like this ink one though, i love the one side of the face being totally black, cool stuff!

jhibbs; nice painting of your girlfriend, its got a great atmosphere to it, great expression too

[Brain]

Haven't been around here in too long, so thought I'd throw up a quickie before work.

http://brain.gamekey.com/digital/self-151102.jpg

Did this one from my webcam, which was interesting. @:-)

[coriat]

hmmm, i still look kinda different :/
I WON"T QuIT WEIRD POSES UNTIL THEY LOOK LIKE ME, DAMMIT!!

grrrrrrrrrr

:mumble:
http://home.hccnet.nl/henk.middendorp/jurjen/tekeningen/14-11.jpgi couldnt keep my head in the same pose :/ silly me.

Brain - nice, good work!
ZippZopp- good job, try to watch those proportions, your eyes look a bit big...i think :rolleyes:

Hexal - measure first then draw...and use construction lines...like, if my nose is (make a point on the paper) THIS long, then my forehead will be..(make another point) THAT long... and then this would be....
if you get my meaning :/ place landmarks.

-Lionel - looks good..now DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR A CHANGE, :D :chug: nice work!

Bwiseman: whoa, check out the lighting!

Miasmask: keep an eye out for perspective...the face is in 3/4 view and the mouth is drawn is if you look from the front side (A curse on my bloody bad english! HAR!).

Oblio - check you out! i couldnt see anything you posted last 2 weeks :/ so fortunecity going down isnt THAT bad :P (my computer seems to have some problems with fortunecity :D) .
You're great!
Oblio The Great!! woowoohooo!:chug:

I'll give more usefull comments when i get back from school, gotta run, seeya everyone!

[daarken]

yes im alive! ive been too busy with other stuff to really do some good sps. so here is yesterdays and todays. just quick ones. the one today was just a sketch from memory. you dont want to know where i drew it....hah
11-13
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-13.jpg
11-14
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-14.jpg

[Alger Langdon]

Here's today's work. I did one yesterday, but it was shitty.
This SP needs a little more work, but I need some sleep. So I'm done with it.
I'll try to comment on some of your SPs tomorrow. I should have some time after class.
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~olskool1/_uimages/selfnonfro5web.jpg

[Blackhawk]

Hey everyone. I worked on this one for about an hour tonight. Had to stop for now though because I need to be up in 5 hours to take my dog Clyde in for his cancer checkup. This one is a WIP as is, I fully intend to complete it though. This is the most confident I've felt with a piece in a longtime. I'm discovering how mental everything is with art. It's amazing, I've been forcing myself to think more positively about my abilities the last couple of days, and then bam, this squirts out. I need to think this way from now on :D Hopefully I'll finish it up tomorrow and then post the finished one tomorrow night with a new one. Sorry I won't do comments tonight, need to head to bed pronto. Thanks for your comments on my last one though, they are all extremely appreciated.

Oh, the color scheme was loosely based off of one of Wes9000's amazing gouache SP's. I was flipping through his site tonight and got a lot of inspiration for this SP from there.
http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod59.jpg

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.14.02.JPG

i discovered papers and patterns in painter and i suppose they're like the filters in photoshop - overused and obvious but as a beginner with painter im most concerned with learning the program by experimenting with whatever i find in there

[Grooveholmes]

3 glasses of wine, 1 candle for the lightsource, 2 bowls, and 1 cd reflection later...
http://www.joshball.com/forums/conceptart/sp11_14_02/images/index.jpg

[MindCandyMan]

:o

Here is my latest self portrait. It's my anniversary today guys!!! I have officially been drawing for 2 Months...I started on September 15th. Woohoo I am glad I am able to keep going!

I worked on this one for about 2 hours and 15 minutes last night. It was 1:00 so I had to go to bed and I didn't want to do what I did with my other portraits...just finish it up crappy just to have a "finished one". I am finding that patience is paramount in art. Patience means with your skills...patience with letting the piece emerge...letting it form from the clay and graphite. I had real extreme lighting with this one. My desk lamp was at an agle above my head and that was the only light. I wanted to experiment with this extreme lighting in an effort to expand my skills. I will finish it up tonight. Please please please...give me all the harsh criticism you can muster. It is my goal to be an illustrator in 6 years...or to do something in illustration and that won't be possible without knowing all my faults and having you all exploit them hehe. I love you guys! You are all awesome. You have helped me sooooooooooo much already. Thank you for that. Don't worry about me at all...tell me something sucks I have thick skin. Alright enough babbling here it is.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 57 pencil severe lighting step 1 sp.jpg

Any suggestions? Thanks.

Grooveholmes - I like this latest one. I like the green behind. Compliments the image well IMO.

ilex - Doesn't look too beginner it looks good. It's fun to play in painter hehe.

Blackhawk - before I even read your comment I thought to myself...wow this is one of his best ones yet. This is great. And yes confidence and determination can be seen on the canvas. Good things happen when you are confident and determined. When I did my self portrait last night I had to stop because it was 1:00 a.m. ...When I went to bed I couldn't sleep because I was so deep in concentration for the 2 hours I was working on my sp...so I had to calm myself down before I could fall asleep. Attack the canvas!You are the one with the pencil (stylus)...you tell IT what YOU want it to do. hehe

Alger Langdon - Don't know what to say...awesome as usual. I love the dark mood...great.

daarken - Those are really good. Honestly. I wish I could draw myself that close from memory and doing quick sketches...that's pretty awesome. Were you crapping when you drew them?

coriat - You are getting much better and yeah the weird poses are so hard...Really hard. Watch your nose...I think it's turned up a little bit too much in this one. It's hard from that position cause you really need to shade it to get the full effect. The eyes look good they are in line with each other....the jaw line looks good. Your lips look a little off though. One thing that helps me to think about is imagine your lips as two cylinders or a big square and then position the square in your mind to fit the direction perspective...then mental draw the lips inside. You are getting tons better keep it up.

Brain - I like this one. Wow from a webcam huh...sheesh that's awesome. People drawing from floor tiles...webcams...the back of a cd. We have a committed crowd here!!!!! I would like to see you drop some shading on the cheek area, the eye sockets, and the jaw line.

ZippZopp - You are right about my hand self portrait. I thought the same thing. It looks like I cut and pasted the features on there. Good call. You are getting much better keep going bro!

Hexal - I think it's totally awesome that you are sticking to it and doing a self portrait every day. It will pay off in the end. I would highly suggest reading Loomis' take on how to construct the head. Measure all your features to the exact with a ruler if you have to. For instance if you were scaling your face down to put it on the paper...if from the bottom of your eye to the bottom of your nose is 3 inches...put the ruler on the paper and measure 3 inches and make that your limit for how far down you go etc. I think if you do that all over your face one time you will start to see a big change. Measure Measure Measure. Good shading does nothing if your proportions aren't right. That's what I am finding. Good luck bro! Keep up the hard work...but also constantly re-evaluate how you are doing things...your technique. And one of the most important things in reading material on anatomy...and specifically constructing the head. Sorry babbling...good work bro! Your dedication is awesome.

lionel - Good stuff man. Your self portrait's likenesses are very consistent. I would like to see you paint yourself in some dramatic lighting. Film noir.

Bwiseman - Your stuff is totally awesome man...hey do you mostly use the sharp chalk tool?...I can't tell what main tools you use to get the even tones you get. Great work bro!

miasmak - I really like this latest one. The background is amazing. I love the splotches of paint, etc... Awesome! The main problem I can see is that one of the eyes is skewed. One thing that REALLY REALLY helps me is to shrink it down to thumbnail size...when you shrink it that small you can see all your proportion flaws very clearly. Try it out. Also if you are working in painter don't be afraid to use the selection tool to highlight one eye and shift it around heheh. Cheat a little if you have to hehehe. But the colors and everything are awesome. Keep it up you are improving a whole bunch.

Nold - You are improving as well friend. You are doing awesome. I am glad to hear you didn't cut it off. I saw someone in philadelphia that looked EXACTLY like your self portraits...I did a double take thinking to myself "why does he look familiar" and then I remembered your portraits. I see you live in Germany...maybe a long lost cousin? hehe

draz - That's a pretty kick butt first self portrait...sheesh. You are gonna do awesome. Keep em coming bro.

Jhibbs - I really like this one. You did well with the colors too. You are getting so much better man...it's awesome. Glad the script thing worked out for you. Saved my butt a couple times too hehe. I wanted to commend you on your portrait of your girlfriend. Everyone was saying "Your girlfriend is so hot...she is beautiful...etc..."...I know one of the hardest things to do is capture the subtlety of the female face and figure. For you to be able to paint a woman and accentuate her good features shows an artistic maturity. Great job I was really impressed.

Jester - You are right about the nose but sheesh you are getting so much better! Your proportions are starting to become second nature I can see it in your work. Great job man. I work for the University of Pennsylvania but I do filmmaking on the side. I am working on a short I want to get screened here in Philly. It's great fun. It's awesome practice for thinking up compositions etc... I hope one day to be able to do all my own storyboards. good job bro.

Everyone else - You all rock!

[jester]

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-038.JPG

A rather "messy" one. Face is too long and not really me. I find portraits difficult when I have to look across my drawing hand (i.e. drawing my right half, being right-handed). Anybody else having this problem? What are you doing to solve it?

Jester

@miasmak - looks a bit sloppy. While I like the nose-mouth area the alignment of your eyes is off.

@bwiseman - I like the painting of your eyes, the mouth area is a bit blurry. My nose "is" a bit pushed up but not that much I think. I do have comparably small ears, though.

@lionel - ah, headphone-series continues ;) Your left eye seems a bit too small.

@Hexal - try not to surround the elements of your face with thick dark lines. Shapes are generated of rather subtle changes in tone. Try to analyse the portraits of all the people here and try to articulate what you discover - I found that I learned a lot by looking closely at all the drawings/paintings here and to see what was made right and wrong. Even if you are a beginner (we all were beginners once) you can try to do so, too.

@coriat - same as for Hexal - try to draw your lips without a dark surrounding line.

@daarken - whoa, I dig that memory one!

@Blackhawk - looking forward to the finished piece - this one promises to become a masterpiece. And art is a brain thing, or as Granny Weatherwax (Terry Pratchett) says: Headology ;)

@ilex - reminds me of the 1920s drawings of several German artists. Very "absinthian" ;)

@MindCandyMan - amazing! The position of the two "thingies" running from the bottom of your nose to your lips is wrong in my opinion and a bit too prominent/outlined too sharp. Storyboarding is great, isn't it?

And all the others, good jobs, too!

[Ironspy]

the ineptness of my computer abilities is now evident: I don't even know how to post images on this site. I've been doing self portraits every day for a few days now, and don't even know how to put stuff up. Help! :cyberguy:

OH what I'd do with computer skills. Have I failed as a human being? :p

[MindCandyMan]

Hey Ironspy...are you scanning them in or are you creating them in photoshop/painter...etc... If you just need an image hosting site I would suggest: www.imagemagician.com ...works good for a lot of stuff and has no bandwidth limit. Check it out. You sign up for an account and then you can upload your images...then when you get here there is a button when you post above where you type that says "IMG" click that and put in the link that imagemagician.com gives you to where your picture is being stored on the internet. Then we will be able to see your wonderful work. If you need any further info about it just private message me and I will explain in more detail.

[Grooveholmes]

Hey man this one turned out awesome! what a difference 2 months makes eh? Keep going, don't stop now!

the only thing that throws this off is the detailed to non-detailed areas IMO. its always ok to have some areas with countour work and others more detialed that you want to be detailed.. just think about having an actual transition between the two; instead of the abruptness that's there right now. Try to fade between the areas. The viewers eye will be happy with something like that.. they won't realize it.. its one of those things that happens on a sub-concious level as you pull their eyes over your work.

Don't know if that makes much sense. rrrr

[MindCandyMan]

Grooveholmes - Thanks! yeah 2 months makes a big difference...especially if you stick at it. I think I know what you mean...you mean how the highlights are really abrupt white right?...like it goes dark dark dark...LIGHT...dark dark. Is that what you mean? More of a gradient between the highlights and darks? Or do you just mean that certain parts have more care taken on them than other parts and the two should not be abrupt transitions...both of those things are probably true and could help the piece hehe. That's one thing that intrigues me...controlling the viewers experience...I know Paul Calle, in this book of his I read last weekend, shows these diagrams of how he purposefully shaded the objects to sort of point at whatever subject he wanted them to. It will take a good while till I can get on that level but I will certainly keep pushing till I do! hehe. Thanks again...did I get the meaning of what you said?

[bwiseman]

mindcandyman: The only tool I use is the Loaded Palette Knige in Painter 7. Its a lot like using oil paints...thats why I like it and use it so much. It gives a nice texture and feel to a piece.

[ZippZopp]

mindcandyman: wow! what a difference in your portrait today. the shading makes a world of difference for you. it looks fantastic. can't wait to see it finished! nice work

[draz]

This one is a little closer to my actual appearance but there are still problems. Gonna keep working to get a better likeness.

http://members.fortunecity.com/draz2/nov15.jpg

Mismak, thanks for the welcome. :)

ZippZopp, thanks for your comments. Unfortunately it's not much of a likeness but I followed the suggestions made by Jon Foster in another thread on taking measurments. I find it somewhat awkward taking them in a mirror but it does seem to help!

MindCandyMan, thanks bro. Gonna do my best. One of the reasons I decided to start drawing was because of the progress I've seen you make in your work, as well as the others on the board.

I'm really enjoying everyone's submissions!

[MindCandyMan]

Looking good draz. I know what thread you are talking about...that was awesome wasn't it. Getting tips from the masters. I am so glad that I could have a part in inspiring you to plow forward in art. I will say this...if you've just recently started you have the knack and that's for sure. Even if you haven't you still have the knack. Draw every day...even if you have to stay up till 2. And I mean draw seriously...like practice. Not just doodling some stick figures. It stinks a lot of times to sacrifice other things...(I gave up tv and video games) but it will be better in the long run. Your stuff is really good. Keep it up bro!

[Ochre Face]

this is one of my more finished pieces... will i ever stop being too lose? i swear this looks better if you step away from the monitor :/

http://www.funlabor.com/ochreface-spnov15.jpg


jeremy

[Blackhawk]

I worked an extra couple of hours on this one. This is as far as I will take it, although I will say this was the most enjoyable one I've done in awhile. I forgot to mention that I used the sharp chalk brush, slightly modified to blend in the colors more. Here it is, extra SP and comments later tonight.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod60.jpg

[Oblio]

Yesterday and today i've went back to music making. It's been a while and it felt good. A freind asked for a tune and i've reinstalled my stuff.
On th otherhand.. i've found out that i've been stabbed in the back by old friends. All my backup plans are ruined...
also i've been trying to push a little more the sp's since i've felt a bit confy ( i did one without reference (no mirror) and it turned out pretty ok so... )
I'll suck for a moth now.. doing sp's that include some of my ugly body.. it's a timid approach to anatomy. Don't blame me now... save it for later.

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/14nov1.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/14nov2.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/15nov.jpg

MINDCANDY: Wow... :bow: this is what I was talking about. Work it more it pays you back. Crits ou want? Well... eyes should be darker i think. Also the nose brige where the glases are.. it's a bit unclear... i think it should be thiner there. Eyes shape seems strange to me but it could be the glasses... some reflection to the glasses and in the eyes should pop up but later - only in photoshop.. unles you have a very sharp eraser. Anyway.. i wouldn't have said any of those if you haven't been asking for some with any cost... these are minor remarks.. some maybe exagerated.. you have done SO much!

Jeremy - apart from the ear and a bit the nose.. for me it seems VERY ok!

draz - you are comming along verny nicely. squint your eyes a bit and look again to you SP. You will see it becomes flat. You need to put more contrast and work the shapes more. Make a low poly attempt. What do you say?

bwise - PLS - make a small tutorial on how you use that thing.. the loaded palette knife tool - it made me crazy!!

jester - umm.. i know. You need to take another mirror and do a profile. There is and angle you have to take care of...
Here is a SP made on 26 aug. Andrew asked me to make a profile - it helped a lot. It's not too eloquent on this one but you will get the point.

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/26aug-angle.jpg


grooveh - i would love to see you approaching another style.

ilex - but it was fun.. wasn't it.. :)

blackh - little tip (not realy, i'm not in that position yet). Your right eye.. needs a soft reflection on the "white" area... it seems mate now... here you go... (almost)
http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/bh-eye.jpg
{EDIT} - ha.. you've posted an update while i was doing this.
Don't change it. You ROCK!

Alger - you have VERY nice SP's. You are a beautifull addition to our freak show. Thank you!

daarken - hey friend.. are you ok? You're not in jail or everything. :)

coriat - :D thank you. dit ou get the chance to see some? about your poses.. pick a confortable one and put more work it those SP's (not like me)

everyone... ROCK ON! (keyth? where are you?. Don't you mis the old boys? Sparth, Jon?)

oh.. one more thing - HEXAL - little more the 30 min? You have to spend MORE time. A quick one is under 1 hour. You have to do "full ones" ok? :p
Look, look, look (jason Manley). Your's not looking close enough(jason manley).
So.. don't listen to me.. listen to my masters!

Oblio

[miasmak]

my family accuse me of spod-addiction, my two and a half year old says not another mamma where are her feet, what can I say ... I can say this:

bwiseman, technically this one is more accurate ant controlled and looks more finished but I prefer the previous one for raw emotion and simplicity.
lionel, the mid tone background helps as well and the value look accurate, maybe experiment with some brushes or something, you seem to be a bit stuck in the same place
hexal, you are improving, the eye nose perspective is getting there, You could also try for a bit more variation in your line work, also look at MindCandyMan's early early pics :P and you can see what is possible if you persist
ZippZopp, you are definitely gaining more control how about some dramatic lighting and a more neutral background, just for practise
Brain, The hair and ear placement is a bit off
Cotron, weird poses are good for you and besides it excercises the neck muscles, the outline of the lips and chin are a bit sharp to my liking
daarken, the from memory one looks like how you think you look, we'll have to take your word for your aliveness
AlgerLandon, love the zingy cyan highlights
Blackhawk, if it wasn't for the unfinished side I would be tempted to put my hand through the screen to see if its real, good job, and now I'll have to put my hand through the screen :)
ilex, hipnotic, the eyes don't seem to point in exactly the same direction and the very circular lilac shape on the chin bothers a bit
grooveholmes, the line work adds to the volume eg, the nose but the white linework around the nose seem a bit mechanical to me. the sp has a presence.
mindcandyman, haveing a staring competition for your aniversary then? the shading really makes this one, you have had a gear shift lately.
Jester, I like your coloured work, the neck lines are a bit unsensitive and the cheek shadow seems flat.
draz, the dark area in the hair pulls the focus off the face
ochre face, I like it loose
Oblio, I like the last one best it would make a cool etching

And now for this one I used mindcandyman's pep talk, Blackhawk's reminder to check my attitude towards my work, grooveholmes's candle and few glasses of wine concept, Jester's suggestion to focus more, ilex's wilder colour choice inspiration, alger's intense mood, Cotron's crick in the neck poses, daarken's persistence and everybody else for being in the same boat

I thank you all

http://www.jsim.com/cg/spod29-2s.JPG

[Hexal]

I don;t know abouit this one today, it looked good when i was drawing it and when i looked at it but when i scanned it I could see stff like one of the eyes looks funny and the nose is kind of big. little more then a half hour today caus eim goint to my dads soon and have to get ready, hopefully i can do one for sat at my dads house and post it on sun with my sunday SP.

Nov 15
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port24.jpg

[Alger Langdon]

miasmak: my favorite sp of yours so far. Its shows you were more relaxed making this one. stay relaxed.

Oblio: I like the second sketch, nice loose sketch.

Blackhawk: good job, not much to critique.

Ochre Face: Its true it looks better from far away. I like your sense of color.

MindCandyMan: I have to agree with the others you're progressing. Keep it up.

Grooveholmes: kool sketch, (i wish i had 2 bowls).

ZippZopp: Like Mindcandy, you're progressing too. My tip is to check your forhead for plane changes.

bwiseman: nice sp, i had wondered how you got the oil paint feel.

daarken: i like the second sketch. It has a nice gesture to it.


That's 'bout it for now. If time permits i'll try to do another Sp, although, i think i'm getting sick of drawing myself. Laterz.....

[Lionel]

I didn't mean for this to end up like this at all but I ended up having such fun with the impaso I couldn't stop my self and finally ended up with this mess. Not the greastest sp in the world but it sure was fun :)
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me38.JPG

[bwiseman]

Not as happy with this one as I have been with my others. I guess I just didn't spend as much time as I should have. Thanks for all the comments on my last one!!

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2015.jpg

Oblio: I'll do a Step by Step on my next self portrait.

Lionel: Its really cool, but very scary. You look like you're melting.

MindCandyMan: Its looking really good. The best rendering I've seen you do yet. The top part of your head, though, looks really round and far too big...less circle shaped and more oval shaped!

Blackhawk: Awesome awesome awesome!!! You really captured the fleshyness of the skin and the eye ball is beautiful!!

[jhibbs]

blackhawk-great job on that one, ill have to try the square chalk, imve been having problems with the one brush i have mainly used so far..

lionel-nice, your rendering is always strong but it's refreshing to see a change from you. next time try a really different light source or something.

daarken- i really enjoy seeing your pencil work, its very loose yet accurate and descriptive. you must have a lot of life drawing experience.

oblio-im diggin the added body, nice job on the anatomy.

ochreface-looks good, but it would be a lot stronger if the base of thge neck was wider, maybe give that another look.

mindcandyman-awesome, great improvement over your previous ones, that one took me quite by surprise.

grooveholmes-thanks a TON for the brushes, you really made my day :D


ok here's mine from the oast two nights, ive been trying to test new brushes and whatnot. wasnt originally going to post my seurat-brush one, but after trying to fix painter, i ran outta time and had to go to bed.

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/9.txt

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/a.txt

[daarken]

jhibbs: thanks! yeah, ive really been trying hard lately. drawing on the bus, going to workshops, whatever i can. i really need to push myself, im getting old! good job trying out some new stuff!

bwiseman: great job as usual! your right eye is looking a little flat though.

lionel: gloopy crazyness! your proportions are getting a lot better!

oblio: haha, no im not in jail. everything is good here. nice to see you branching out into some anatomy on your portraits. great job.

blackhawk: more lovely eyes! the blue around the face really pushes your face forward.

ochre face: i really like it. i like loose brushwork, and if that is how you like to paint, then dont change yourself. its not a bad thing.

mind: wow! your last rendering is fantastic! youve only been drawing for 2 months? damn boy, you are going to be great!

groove: your green one is showing a lot more form and your proportions look better. good job.

yay! finally i did a portrait that took longer than 5 minutes. something about it looks off to me though, but i cant put a finger on it. oh well. now back to drawing...
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-15.jpg

[Blackhawk]

I've been messing around with Painter lately, trying to experiment with different things that the program can do. I did this tonight, 30 minutes. Mainly used a pencil variant I made and modified and square chalk. I'm EXTREMELY tired tonight. It feels like I have 10 ton bags under my eyes.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod61.jpg

MindCandy - You are doing awesome man. Just remember to keep pushing yourself, don't slack off like I do sometimes :P No, but seriously, I need to start working as hard as Daarken is doing. I bought a huge 14x17 sketchpad so I can go outside and just draw real huge and loose and go nuts. I just need to do more life studies work besides my face. I'm almost tempted to hit Mill Avenue tomorrow down here in Tempe and just draw people as they walk around.

On the mood, I'm finally realizing and discovering how mental all of this is. All I do anymore is constantly say to myself "I will make this piece great." or "What can I do to make this piece great?" The last couple of weeks it was more like "How badly am I going to screw this one up?" When I look over my work, it's like observing both sides of the spectrum. I can clearly see my work where all I had was negative energy, and even when I spent a lot of time and concentration on a piece, it still didn't turn out nearly as good as it could have. So anyone else reading, heed my words, don't be a pessimist like me when it comes to your art, you'll just cheat yourself.

Now for crits :D This is looking good, it could use more highlights on the bottom eyelid, or atleast a better contrast. Another thing to look out for when shading is to look for soft and hard edges in the values. The piece above your upper-lip (Sorry, don't know name :() It's seems like it's too pronounced, may want to soften up the values in that spot to give it an easier transition. That's about it for now, keep it up man, your doing great.

Jester - I don't really know what I could offer in advice for your dilemma other than practice both sides of the face and head really. I just practice as much as possible now to switch up poses everyday and hit poses that I find the most difficult. It's really helping my head knowledge as well now to as I'm finding myself more and more drawing heads correctly from memory on many angles while doing my concept work practice.

Draz - Good job on this. Some of the values flatten out areas and could use more contrast, but overall it's a very well executed attempt. Keep at it.

Ochre - This one looks pretty good, eye seems like it's pulling up to a funky angle on the outside corner. Other than that, I actually enjoy your looseness. Keep it up man.

Oblio - You most definitely are in the position to critique my work man as well as everyone else. I am by no means great... yet :P, I know I have TONS to learn, and I know there are a million out there better than me :D I savor every bit of advice, suggestion, crit, whatever. That's one of the main reasons I do this stuff everyday. I hope someone comes along, tells me what I am doing wrong and what I can do to improve it next time. I want it, so lay it on me.

I love your 3rd piece, the pose is great. It is definitely good to see you challenging yourself and branching out. I tried a few body shots for my SP and I always seemed to really screw up my face while doing it. You were pretty successful with these. Arm proportions may be off on your first one though.

Mia - Thanks, I'm flattered. Your proportions are doing great now. I can remember the first few SP's you did and then now to this and your stuff has definitely became better. It's always a joy to watch someone improve, excellent job. Oh, BTW, you should draw a picture of your feet for your 2 1/2 year old :D

Hexal - Spend more time on it. Like I said previously, do a SP where you just sit, and study your face. Study every little nuance of it, and slowly work it up. If it takes you 5 hours to finish, all the better. Trust me, you will learn greatly just from one session like this. Keep it up and enjoy your weekend.

Lionel - LOL, yeah, the impasto's are fun. I did a real goopy looking SP awhile ago. It's good to see you branching and experimenting now though, keep it going.

Bwiseman - Thanks. You have a beautiful softness to your work. This one is no exception. As Daarken pointed out though, the right eye is a little flat. Other than that, great piece.

Jhibbs - Thanks. Definitely try the square and the sharp chalk. I got the idea to use the sharp chalk from one of Imp Head's tutorials I think. I just upped the blending to 100% and lowered the saturation down under 10% and it gives the brush a nice blend. Great job experimenting, the blue one's forehead looks a little off. Excellent job bud.

Daarken - Thanks man. This one is awesome. I can't really tell what is off, it looks pretty solid from here. Excellent work, the lips on this one are rendered extremely well.

Have a great Saturday everyone.

[taff]

wow, you leave this thread alone for more than 24 hours and have 2 new pages to look through! I don't have the time to comment everyone. blackhawk, your second last portrait kicked ass! Jester, wow, that last one is a big step! As Blackhawk said, keep on pushing!

http://www.tough-illustrations.com/spod/spod151102.jpg

It's always been a challenge to me, doing a human head from a lower perspective. Since I still kinda suck at it, I am going to concentrate on these for a while. :chug:

[xflox]

sorry for not posting, but i´m only at home at the weekends :(

only two little sketches from me :)

http://xflox.com/upload/sp1102.jpg

[bwiseman]

Hey all, Oblio asked me to do a Step by Step of my process with the Loaded Palette Knife tool in Painter 7, so I did that with this image. Its in the Step by Step folder.

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2016.jpg

daarken: Damn it you are so awesome!! I love all your work, its so frickin cool!! You have a wonderful feel for color and placement of strokes...wow!!

blackhawk: I'd like to see you finish one of these paintings you've been starting. They look really good! Finish one!!!

[draz]

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/nov16.jpg

Sorry about the same boring pose and lights. I thought it would be a good idea to get accuracy first with the front view before trying different positions. I feel I've gotten closer with this one and realize my mistakes from my previous two attempts. One thing I've noticed is that when I scan my drawing it almost seems as if it gets squashed vertically ever so slightly. Maybe it's just in my head.

MindCandy, Yep just started doing self portraits on the 14th. I only ever did doodles before because it was much easier than having to draw something you see accurately. I admire your commitment to give up tv and video games! I've cut back on tv but not sure if I could give it up :D Either way, gonna devote a few hours each day to drawing. By the way, really like how your latest sp is coming along. I'd love to be able to render like that. Let's see an update. :)

Oblio, great sketches. They remind me of some of the drawings of Glenn Vilppu. I love the lose feeling in them. You were also one of the guys on here that kicked my butt and made me pic up a pencil. It's been great fun watching you progress. By the way, what's a low poly version? Is that where you just simply the forms to their basic shapes? I'll give it a shot.

Miasmak, I love how you've used everyones advice in this sp and made it a success. Well done.

Blackhawk, You have an awesome painting style. Colors scare me at this point and I only hope to get to that level one day. I've noticed in your latest work in progress you start with a sketch. Is this the best way of progressing from pencil to paint? Looking forward to seeing this one progress.

Hexal, I know what you mean when you say it look good when you're drawing it and then when you scan it, it seems off. I notice this too, or even when turing the drawing around in the mirror. Keep at it and really study what you're looking at. Taking measurements is really helpful but accurately placing them is sometimes difficult. Well at least it is for me but we'll only get better with practice.

[edit] Sorry about that... the image showed up from here. Hopefully it'll work this time.

[keyth]

mine are on the way and they ain't pretty. i haven't been home much lately so please bear with. ugh.

[Oblio]

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/16nov.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/16nov1.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/16nov2.jpg

I need to read something about anatomy before going further... i need to put more logic in my drawings and i have no background.
Thank you so much for the feedback - i thought those were so bad... i'll reise my self expectation now - THANK YOU!

So.. let's chat a little:

draz - {can't see your pic} bingo! look for a low-poly 3D face render - look at those planes and try to do your SP just like that. Simplify but don't forget ANY plane. Everytime you feel the need for a push.. i'll be here. We are both victims.. you and I (Bioforge ;))

bwiseman - ah crap.. :bow: THANK YOU!!!!! I'll have a look at the tut and give another try to that ninja tool.

xflox - eyes too big.. ear too far back.. modem sucks :D

taff - damn man.. what kind of pencils do you use? How big? Your work always looks smooth...

blackhawck - hoe about a race? Let's see how's working more - k? (we'll not beat darken anyway.. that little one is a machine) :p

daarken - oh boy... wow... lovely. (cool as you say). Let me try to put a finger.... here - your left eye is a bit up? And maybe your ching has slided a bit from the middle axis? maybe.. not.

jhibbs - both are very cool.

lionel - hey friend.. use a cream or so.. your skin has started to... move!!! :p i'll try that tool too. cool sp. keep it up!

hexal - not working hard enough. not looking as much as you should. Try this - work your eyes until they stare back to you.

mia - thak you for your adiction - it's very nice to have you around. Just try to push it more and more!

Oblio

[Lionel]

Yummy
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me39.JPG

[daarken]

tried doing the ol coro technique. didnt turn out as well as i had hoped. oh well
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-16.jpg

[jhibbs]

daarken-the ink one looks pretty damn successful to me, i gotta start doing more traditional stuff. your painter one before that also kick ass, i didnt see anything wrong with it (maybe the eyes are a bit far apart) if you cant tell whats off, look at it in a mirror, something that ive been doing a lot more latel. what brush do you use?

oblio-thanx, i like the black one, and the leaning back one. do you have some type of huge-collared jacket?

draz-nice banner :p my server would do the same thing, if i didnt rename them to .txt files (then they show up for some reason) give it a shot (although my last server kicked me off for doing it :p )

lionel-thats umm interesting :p

blackhawk-has a very tradional-media type look to it, i like it. and thanx for the tip, i kinda tend to neglect my forehead (bet id miss it if it wasnt there though :P ). i tried to avoid that with this SP.

bwiseman-lmao, great expression/prop. nice colors too. i'd like to see one with a more concentrated lightsource perhaps

ok here's tonights. after all that trouble trying to fix the one brush (i couldnt figure out why it only made a dab and then just smeared the other paint around.. it was the dryout setting. DUR) i decided to try other stuff. i used the Seargant brush for this SP as well as another pic of my girlfriend (i put it in the sketches thread)


http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/b.txt

[Blackhawk]

My eyes are burning and bloodshot, so I'll have to keep it short tonight and do comments tomorrow night. Took me about 3 tries tonight on this one and I still goofed it. Oh well, win one, lose many :D

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod62.jpg

[xflox]

http://xflox.com/upload/self11.jpg

oblio: thanks for the comment :) I´m still struggling with proportions, although my eyes are really quite big :rolleyes:

[RichardSmith]

http://www.richardnsmith.com/images/selfPortrait_01.jpg

[Ochre Face]

RichardSmith, wow, that's a good one -- the emotion and the the graphic shapes. i like the dark lines showing through


once again this looks less bad from far away ... new jersey is having seattle weather....

http://www.funlabor.com/ochreface-spnov17.jpg

jeremy

[bwiseman]

I got a little freaky today...I guess because its finally cold outside!!

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2017.jpg

[Hexal]

NO good at all today becasue of my lack of time(To much school work). I first i did and did like at all so started the second one but to me the first looks better. Tommorow im going to try and do a hour right after school.

NOV 17
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port25.jpg

http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port26.jpg

[Ironspy]

Don't diss Seattle weather unless you've been there ;) It doesn't rain as much as you think! It's my real home! I love it and thats why it followed me to the east coast! Mwahaha

[ZippZopp]

i missed two days, rough weekend, wasn't feeling too good, had a lot of stuff that needed to be done...but i'm back! and i'm still goin

here is tonights quick one, i tried to move as quickly as possible. definatly spent a lot less time rendering the eyes, mouth and nose. i enjoyed goin a bit faster.

http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1118.jpg

hexal: everyday is improving for ya, keep at it

bwiseman: great colors today. i like that. its way too cold and rainy where i am so i'm stayin away from those cool icy colors! nice job on it, and great job on the step by step

ochre face: ah, you're in NJ, i'm CT, and yes, the weather sucks! anyway, nice job on the portrait, i think the background is taking away from it, i think it needs to be a little more finished

xflox: good portrait, i think the eyes are a little big though, other than that, great rendering!

blackhawk: i really really like this one, its got a sort of android style to it. simple but very effective

jhibbs: great one, really looks painted, i really like it


oblio: great work as usual!

[RichardSmith]

http://www.richardnsmith.com/images/selfPortrait_02.jpg

[StephenC]

an old one...http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/oldselfportraitsc.jpg

[MindCandyMan]

Hey everybody,

I went away this weekend that's why I didn't post anything for the last two days. Here are the postings I missed:


I finished up this one on friday night. Total...it took me about 4 hours and 15 minutes. By the light of the desk lamp hehe. This one looks a lot like me my wife said...so now you guys get to see my ugly face hehe.


http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 58 severe lighting sp.jpg



Tried out the chalk tool. I have realized that I have a really hard time capturing my likeness in painter. I don't know why. I have also realized that I have NO CLUE how to paint with colors. I have absolutely no idea. If anyone can give me any suggestions or tutorials etc... that would greatly help because I am at a complete loss.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 55 chalk self portrait.jpg


StephenC - This one rocks. Great work...love the silhouette (spelling?)

RichardSmith - Your stuff is awesome. So much emotion and power. I really like them a lot. Thanks for posting they are awesome.

ZippZopp - Wonderful stuff man. The lighting is awesome. Keep it up!

Hexal - Getting much better every day man. For your next self portrait...I know this sounds weird...but for your next self portrait get ahold of a digital camera...or take a picture of yourself. Somehow get a picture of yourself and put it upside down. Draw yourself upside down. This will take a little while but trust me and just go for it and do it. When you draw yourself upside down forget the idea that this is a person's face. Forget that you are looking at a nose, eyes...etc....upside down. Draw everything exactly how you see it. Learning to draw (I am finding) has everything to do with seeing. If we could see purely from the beginning than drawing would come so very easily. Keep going bro. Try that out...I can't wait to see the results.

bwiseman - Awesome one man I really like it. It's funny...the first thing I thought of was frankenberry cereal...weird huh. Love the expression. Oh my goodness I just saw that nail in the head one...hahahahahahahahahahah

ochreface - Good stuff man! Yeah I was in NJ this weekend too...rain everywhere bleh.

xflox - Your renderings are really good. The shading that you employ is excellent. I agree about the proportions but they will come...great work man! It's hard when you have exaggerated features in any area. My nose is so bizarre...I hate drawing it...but it teaches me I guess hehe.

Blackhawk - I really like this one man. Good stuff. Your portraits are starting to carry a distinct likeness from one to the next. Good work man. Sorry your eyes were burning. The shading on the side of your face kind of reminds me of an Abraham Lincoln type sideburn hehe. Keep it up bro!

Jhibbs - I Love this one...has a real painterly quality. I like it a lot! I love the rendering of the wall next to you...or whatever that structure is. Great stuff man.

daarken - Looks awesome bro. Quick question: What exactly is the "el coro" style....I hear everyone referring to it but I don't know where his website is or even what his style is etc... I know he is good I have seen his sketches but what is this infamous style that he uses?

Lionel - Hilarious hahahahah!

Oblio - I love these...I like the first one a LOT! There is a really good anatomy book on sale at barnes and noble...hardback...called anatomy for the artist by Jaco someone...not sure what the last name is...but the cover is yellow with a sketched person laying on their stomach. 15 bucks for it....you might be able to get it online for that as well. I am going to be drawing one page from that every day coming up shortly. Good work man.

draz - Looking good man! You are doing awesome! Especially for starting on the 14th sheesh!!!!! Keep up the good work man. Push the values a little more too. Make your darks a little darker and then the other values...let them follow suit. Keep your pencil sharp and use small individual strokes to shade...see how it turns out. Keep em coming. Color scares me horribly as well...I have no clue about it.

[Oblio]

I want my job back - i used to have so much free time back then... nowdays i'm running like a maniac doing all kind of things... someday hopefully something will come out of this.
Sorry i'm not going to comment on you guys - later maybe if i get alive at the end of the day. (can someone tell me why do i feel the need to wash my hands everytime I kill someone? :confused: )
http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/17nov.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/18nov_1.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/18nov_2.jpg

Mindcandy - you'll be ahead of me in no time... Damn! :D

Oblio

[mime]

I know i have not done any SP for quite a time now, but i will get back at it soon .... i'm currently working more on anatomy and other stuff (looking for an atelier or life drawing sessions among other things)

But i had to drop a message, especially for Mindcandyman, this is awesome man, really really impressive, dont stop or rest on your success, but you definitely achieved something, and something great :)
if you have this skill level after 2 monthes, i can only imagine at what level you will be in 6 years, you have the talent and will to succeed in your chosen path. keep up the great work !!


And also a not to Daarken, i really really love your work, both traditionnal and digital, this el coro technique work is really great imho, it doesnt have the el coro look, but thats even better, it has your style in it .... thats great :)

[MindCandyMan]

Thanks so much mime I really appreciate. That self portrait has a lot of mistakes but I learned a lot through it. Thanks for the encouragement as well. I am sacrificing a lot of my free time and time with my wife to pursue this goal. So it helps to be encouraged. I really appreciate it. Keep up the good work mime...and everyone else to! Thanks again.

[daarken]

mind: that is a rockin sp, great work! by the el coro style i am just talkin about inking a drawing, going over it with marker ink, then using prismacolors and gouache.

[mime]

daarken : yes i know, but after reading what you said when posting your SP i had the feeling that you were disapointed to have a somewhat different look (not in term of drawing style of course, but more in term of rendering technique) but maybe thats not at all what you wanted to say, i misunderstood :)
but anyway, you dont have to be disapointed by this drawing, its really solid imho, and it has a nice personnal style in it i think .... well now i shut up :)

[Duracel]

*first post here*

*looked at every single selfportrait*
*looked up to some selfportraits* ;)

Great work all around here .. i like selfportrait-threads!
And this is one of the greatests.
I wish a had enough time to say something to every single work, every is worth mentioning.


So, i feel i have to post two of mine, too. (just from 4thNov.)
Some just saw them somewhere else.

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self16.jpg

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self17.jpg

PS: watercolor pencils on colored paper

[MindCandyMan]

Welcome Duracel,
These are awesome. You've captured the poses very well! There is a lot of character in them. Keep posting! That first one cracks me up heheh.

[Nold]

Ok, we have finally finished a new release of our software at work and I hope I'll have more time now. Here are my two last SPs. Somehow I like the first one, although it's quite dark. This is because it was almost dark in the room when I did it. Just the light of two screens.
The other is not so good, should have spent more time on it. And I had problems choosing the colors. first it was really awful. I looked like commander data...I tried some more red, but still it doesn't look good.

http://www.nhoch2.de/images/spod/20021117SP1.jpg

http://www.nhoch2.de/images/spod/20021118SP1.jpg

Mindcandy: Wow ! You are improving so fast !!!:thumb: This is really an inspiration to spend more time practising. Concerning colors: As you can see, I have the same problem, the colors are ... let's say... terrible. But when I look at your work, I think you will soon be far better. Just go on.
And, by the way, as you might know, people say that everyone has a "double" somewhere in the world. Why not in Philadelpia ?

[Hexal]

I soent a good 15 mins looking at myself in the mirror then a good 45 mins drawing right after school today, Ill do another i think a little later today. I will try the Mind but I don' t have one so i have to like use the one in my yearbook class and do a bunch.

Nov 18
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port27.jpg

[jester]

You all did wonderful spods over the weekend - I'm absolutely overwhelmed! Sorry, I'm too tired today to review them all.

I tried to go for this clean line look with today's portrait - took me about 10 minutes.

Keep up the good work and see ya tomorrow!

Jester

edit: forgot the link... :mad:

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-039.jpg

[Duracel]

Here i am today in another way:

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self18.jpg

[Lionel]

Was trying to learn how to paint as I suck royally at it :/. This one took 30 mins. Jrr already said vary the thickness of the lines has anyone else got any good advice?
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me40.JPG

Duracel: Love the sps saw your stuff over at sijun your stuff rocks :)

jester : That last line drawing is great you have come so far

Hexal: Looks good on I think your nose is a little big

Nold: That looks good I might help you if you blended you stuff a little less. only an idea.

Oblio: You are starting to become a huge amount better recently. Use you time wisely you will miss it when it is gone I bet.

MindCandyMan: You are really starting to get the hang of shading that one rocks. Some things that have helped me try to focus a little more on tone and less on line also try to make some copies of high contrast black and whit photos of people (the old and uglier the better).

StephenC: That one has atitude

RichardSmith: Beautiful colors and great expressions. Would love to be able to paint like that

ZippZopp: You get better with each sp :)

bwiseman: I love you stuff that one with the nail through your head is awsome

Ochre Face: You pieces have a nice feal to them Like the colors.

xflox: I don't think the scan does that justis

Blackhawk: You have besome so much better of late!!! You are producing some really good stuff

jhibbs: You portrats have been looking great of late. You are really starting to nail them :)

daarken: Your stuff is a constant inspiration to me please keep them coming.

[Duracel]

lionel, everytime a good one! (and very good for 30Minutes!) But every picture looks very similar. I liked those pencilsfaces you did ... but just try out other colors, too. Other pencils, with shoulders, with confused hair, just try and try ...
... look at those of andrew jone, notime the same way of painting:
http://www.conceptart.org/artist/andrew-jones/images/andrew-jones-8b.jpg
that is what i like most, and not the details, not the correctness(pic<->reality) and not the face itself. ;)

the same @taff ... great pencil-work over those pages, but i wait for colors! ;)

[ZippZopp]

i started to get into this one, but it fell apart at the end, i just wasn't feelin it tonight, was a struggle to finish this one. i'm not terribly happy with it and not happy with the fact that i'm not being very consistent, some days are great, other suck, this wasn't a great one

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1119.jpg

i gotta get my mind off this stuff, i'll come back later and comment...i'm off to watch lord of the rings

[garg]

http://www.thenetbox.com/blah/nov18.jpg

great work everyone :)

[MindCandyMan]

Everyone is doing awesome!

I don't know what to say hahaha...I will just say this. Colored pencil...Painter 7...20-25 minutes.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 60 bizarre_ pencil sp.jpg



the netbox - Wow this one is really creepy. I really like it a lot. Yeesh...hard to look at...really creepy. Wow good stuff man.

ZippZopp - Don't sweat consistancy...you ARE constant. You sit down and do your self portrait everyday. That's the battle. You WILL get better if you do that. Keep going. Good stuff man. For the lighter areas around your eyes, etc...don't use white next time. Use a lighter brown or something like that...something that will compliment the skin tone. Keep it up bro...you are definitely improving I can see it!!!

lionel - You don't suck royally that's for sure. Keep pushing bro. Try different positions and different lighting...etc... Push yourself. If you need to go back to pencil for a week do that. Keep going though...you are good!

Duracel - Nice another one already huh...I love it. Keep em coming.

jester - This is the most proportionate self portrait I think I have seen you do. Shade that bad boy and you have the best self portrait you ahve done yet. Rock on man!!!!!!! You are getting WAY WAY better. You may not see it but I do. Keep it up bro.

Hexal - Yeah try that upside down thing any way you can. When you actually do the upside down drawing make sure that you forget you are drawing a face and just strictly draw the lines nothing more and nothing less. You are getting better bro keep drawing and focus on "seeing" everything in your face. Good work.

Nold - Thanks for the words of encouragement. I am glad I can help other people as well. That's truly awesome. You are right...why not have a double in Philly? But seriously it was really weird cause I was like...hmmm I wonder if that's him heheheh...oh well...maybe we will meet someday regardless hehehe. We know each other's face at least hehe.

daarken - Thanks for the encouragement man. I love your work. You inspire me. Simple as that.

Oblio - These sketches are really good. You are progressing so well man. I will not pass you...we will move forward together. You rock bro. Keep up the good work. The one with your mouth open is really really good.

[bwiseman]

Grrrrrr...here's my intense self portrait

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2018.jpg

[ilex]

i bumped into a table the other day and 2 days later found a rather large purple/blue/green/yellow bruise on my leg. i was looking at it today and thought it was the perfect description for how i felt. bruised.

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.18.02.JPG

[midnite23]

this is painted on matte using gouache and only one color
it was also the first time that i used paint at all took me like 10 hours to complete


http://www.digitalpassionz.com/por.jpg

[daarken]

too tired....plop....
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-18.jpg

[retro002]

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst094.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst095.jpg

digital.

http://free.pages.at/retro002/painter002.jpg

[Wyeth]

Hello friends,

I want to thank everyone for posting so many amazing pieces of artwork here. I just recently registered an account, and I feel almost overwhelmed by the inspiration of a community like this. You gentlemen and ladies have provided me with hours of "wows" and a rollercoaster of emotions with every new piece I see. Any community which allows a professional to critique an amateur is great. But a community in which the amateurs critique the Professional... well that's truly beautiful. Thanks everyone.

As for this thing... I'm not a painter. I don't know any of the rules, and I've never painted a portrait, self or otherwise. However I decided that I owed it to everyone here to fire up photoshop and do justice to creativity. So I sat here and browsed through every single page of guest portraits in one sitting, and then painted mine while everyone elses was fresh. I didn't have a mirror, so I used an older picture of me that I had on my desk as reference and mashed the position a little bit.

Sitting here at 3:00 in the morning, I realize that it doesn't really look like me. However, I feel like the motivation behind doing it is 100% me, so here we are.

Anywho, you guys (and of course Andrew, who I can honestly say is a beautiful person) are really amazing. Thanks for everything so far. I'm sure I'll be here for the long haul.

- Wyeth



http://www.flamevault.com/~tycho/images/w-01.jpg

[Blackhawk]

Sorry I missed a day :( I was working on storyboards for 6 hours last night and I completely lost the time to do a SP, so to make up I did two of them today.

This first one was my feeble attempt at an SP. I tried mixing ink, sanguine, and white chalk, and it turned into a horrible mess :D Anyways, here it is.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod63.jpg

Second one took me about an hour to do. Sharp chalk, and modified square chalk.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod64.jpg

Too much stuff to comment on :D It's almost overwhelming how many pieces are posted if I miss just a day, amazing. I will comment on a few though before I head to do bed...

Lionel - Don't go down the road I took about being negative towards your work. The only thing you will accomplish is frustrating yourself over and over again. As you said to me once, don't be so f**cking hard on yourself :D I really can't offer much advice, I'm still a youngun when it comes to doing any type of painting. Maybe try varying the strokes and the colors you use in your SP's. Maybe you feel like your stagnating because a lot of your SP's fall into the same style, just try to switch it up and have some fun with it. Try something completely different. If it comes out good, then great, if it doesn't, then try, try again :)

MindCandy - Great work man, your improving a lot. I can definitely see your gains.

Duracel - I like the watercolored pencils one. Very nice style and expression to them.

Hexal - There you go, proportions are beginning to slowly come together. Keep studying your face and keep it up. Don't be afraid to go longer on your SP's.

Daarken - Great colors on this one. I really, really like your El Coro styled SP. I'd like to try something similar if I had the stuff to do it with.

Wyeth - Welcome. There's plenty of great threads on how to start painting in the Technique, Technical, & Theory thread. There's tons of great painters on here and some of them were gracious enough to share their knowledge in a few threads in that forum. Go check it out, it's a good read. Good to see your in it for the long haul, you'll become addicted :)

To those I didn't get to, great work, all of you. Tomorrow night I'll have a better round of comments, tonight was hasty. Good night everyone and enjoy your Tuesday's.

[Nold]

Here's mine for today. I took some photgraphs of my face and compared the colors whith the colors I use usually. It was quite interesting that the location of the colors was in the middle of the palette, where I have never taken the colors before... funny. I worked exactly around the area where the colors are. However, i learned a lot this evening, now I have to learn how to use it. Here is the first try. I like the colors more, but they are still far away from being good.

http://www.nhoch2.de/images/spod/20021119SP1.jpg

[jester]

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-040.JPG

Employed a second mirror today. Now I know what will keep me occupied for the days to come... ;) This is almost like starting a noob! :D

Jester

@Duracel - looks like you've got angels' wings on your back ;)

@Lionel - perhaps try traditional media for a change?! I find it really difficult to work with, say, oil-paint in Painter and then not "see" my brush loaded with paint and not "see" the way the bristles bend. And: you don't suck at painting!

@MindCandyMan - I like that angry expression. Very good job on the mouth/teeth! The shading of your cheeks and the drawing of your hair is executed rather sloppy, though.

@ilex - very expressionistic in style!

@midnite23 - great portrait. But your left upper lip and the nose look a bit miss-proportioned.

@daarken - great (as usual...)!

@retro002 - all three are great. How about trying a 3/4 view?

@Wyeth - welcome. I'd like to see more!

@Blackhawk - both are nice and, you won't believe it, I like the "messy" one (probably because I'm partial to your wonderful sketchbook-paper and sanguine with chalk? ;) )

@Nold - watch out for the alignment of your features/shapes. The colours are way better!

[Hexal]

Thanks blackhawk, I always try to spend as much time as possilbe on my portaits, but latley my home work load has been very large and a lot of math stuff soit takes a while for finish that stuff and havetime to draw.

[Lionel]

Still try to speed up but a bit tired so this one took an hour and a half :/.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me41.JPG

jester: Thouse are looking good lots of improvement recently :). I would put up some tradiational stuff but I don't have a scanner or a digital camera so I have no way of getting at it.

Nold: Looks good.

Blackhawk: Like you I am my own worst critic but I never feel like I want to give up just that I want to practice more and work harder. I sometimes lose focus of where I am trying to get to with my painting but as long as I do something I will improve :).

Wyeth: Welcome I hope to see lots more. If you put in the time you will reap the rewards.

retro002: Thanks for posting you are an inspiration

daarken: Art school seems to be doing you wonders. Nearly the holidays isn't it ;) plenty of time to catch up on sleep.

midnite23: Wow that is very good Would like to se a high res version as I think you have lost a lot of the details at that size

bwiseman: That certainly is very intense

ilex: Cool atmosphere

MindCandyMan: You have been getting a huge amount better of late all thouse sps are finally paying off

thenetbox: Looks good. Try looking more at the planes of the faceand working out what should be lighter and darker. It will help you to see better

ZippZopp: The more you paint the better your consistancy will be. Also rember that you are doing quick sp. I bet if you spent a few days over an sp now you will really see how far you have come. Don't lose hart the road may be long but we are all here walking it with you :)

Duracel: Thanks for your kind words and I can only agree with you I mean to do two sp today the one I posted was suposed to be a quick one and I was going to try something a bit more outlandish but I ran out of time. I will try to do seomthing different tommorow.

[Hexal]

Spent a good 45 mins or more on this one(did it right after my last reply) Might do another later tonight if im not to tried.

Nov 19
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port28.jpg

[Duracel]

"Sitting here at 3:00 in the morning, I realize that it doesn't really look like me. However, I feel like the motivation behind doing it is 100% me, so here we are."

!



@Duracel - looks like you've got angels' wings on your back ;)
ups, never seen before, but your right. ;) :D
An Omen? ^^


PS: Great work again, great work

[StephenC]

a little off i need to work on proportion and seeing...

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/brushpenportrait.jpg

[Agpaoa]

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov18-2002.JPG

[ZippZopp]

another pretty bad one..doesn't look much like me and somehow its not like the way i was posing...i had my head tilted back more and to the side....who knows!!!!!

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1120.JPG

great work everyone!

[jhibbs]

ok guys sorry bout the 2 day absence, i did do them but they're oils, so i cant show till i get pics of them :p

hope this all makes sense:
zippzopp-thanks, the seargant brush really feels like oil paint. one on page 16 is pretty good light-wise. im also finding that my most successful ones start as nothing and stay nearly undetailed until the last few steps. do you always make little spots of the colors you're using? thought i was the only one :p that last one, the side of the face (chin-jaw area) is really well rendered (3d space wise its convincing). if youre having trouble with poses (i do ALOT), find a point to look at, even put a sticker there, so you can always place your head the exact way it was. also if you can have a pose where you dont have to move your head to see the screen and mirror, that works.

richardsmith-intersting style you got going there, are you using photoshop?

blackhawk-it's funny how after a few months what you now call a horrible mess would have been good :p i dont think its that bad, i dont like the sanguine+ink tho, better with one or the other. and the digital one, your right eye is creepy, not quite there yet still juicy and sharp pupil :p

bwiseman-i really like the color on that last one, the deep purple works nice.

daarken-you are very consistent, i like that last one, especially the ear :p do you use a lot of different brushes?

ilex-wow a human bruise, thats a rather disturbing thought

MCM-thanks, that 'wall' thing was kinda something i threw in there, i was actually thinkin like windows but its pretty nondescript either way :P and im glad my stuff's looking painterly, i just declared my major as painting yesterday :D you're getting better every time that 4 hour one rox. about the color, just jump right in and learn like youre doing with the other ones, i just started using color during sp's. and definitely check out the step-by-step thread, i learned a lot from keyth's first one in there.

oblio-great expression on some of the recent ones, looks like you're getting faster.

duracel-welcome! you're off to a good start!

stephenC-you may wanna stick with a bit less permenant medium when learning proportions, takes some balls to jump right in there with a marker though. oh and if thats white ink over the balck, ive had quite a few learning experiences with that lately, and i find white conte or chalk just works better, the ink tends to sink in and turn grey

lionel-rockin the headphones! thanx man, i feel like im getting more consistent as well :D

ok i did two tonight, first was with seargant brush again, second was smeary round (im still trying to find a brush that feels right for me). BTW i use way too many of these :p

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/c.txt

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/d.txt

[RichardSmith]

http://www.richardnsmith.com/gallery/images/selfPortrait_03.jpg

Thanks for the comments, all. Jhibbs; yeah I'm, using PS7. Painted from scratch, eyeballing photoref.

[daarken]

too tired to comment. and where the hell is keyth at?!?! not to mention blank, sparth, nord...
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-19.jpg

[Blackhawk]

I've been taking my SP's too seriously, so I felt like lightening up tonight and just getting loose and having fun. I was doing these for so long tonight that I lost complete track of time, so my comments will be rather limited, sorry :(

Modified square chalk
http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod65.jpg

Sargent Brush
http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod66.jpg

Jhibbs - Thanks. I hear ya, it's definitely something to think about. Yeah, the sanguine and ink definitely didn't tango as well I had hoped. Oh well, try, try, and try again :D Your first one is awesome, I love the vibrance in it. It's almost like it's rattling.

Richardsmith - Sweetness... I love this 3 faced one, absolutely awesome. You've cranked out some great SP's.

Lionel - I know exactly how you feel. You have a good attitude though, keep working on it bud and like I said, don't be afraid to mix it up and try something new, it may help you to approach your regular style differently.

Zippzopp - I think the mouth is catching you again. The corner of the lip usually lines up directly in line with the middle of the eyeball. That's a good measurement to check to make sure your mouth is positioned correctly. Keep working at it bud, you'll clear this hurdle soon enough.

Agpaoa - I love the stylized mouth and eyes, it brought a smile to myself seeing those teeth :D

StephenC - Keep working at it. Proportions seem to be like a never ending battle for me, but they are getting easier to catch and fix over time.

Hexal - There you go man, now more time :D I see it starting to come together, now look even harder and keep it up.

Jester - Great job on the profile view. I'll have to try that one time if I can get a second mirror somewhere. Nice job.

Nold - As Jester said, watch out for feature placement, colors do look a bit better. Keep it up.

Daarken - Awesome job with the colors on the face on this one man. As for Keyth and the rest, I don't know... I was wondering where Keyth was at myself as well as the rest. Well, except for Sparth, he's living it up in the Speed painting forum, doing some awesome stuff.

Have a great Wednesday everyone.

[MindCandyMan]

Last night my stomach was absolutely killing me. I couldn't even think straight. Sorry for posting this crappy self portrait...I had to go lay in bed though it is still cramped even this morning...so weird.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 56 nervous pen self portrait.jpg

[miasmak]

latest three sp's. first one is for blackhawk and my son :) The painter one is horrible, I was just experimenting with brushes and getting nowhere. Last one done with 4B pencil and no erasers. It is the one which bears the most resemblance to date.

http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/ag/feet1s.jpg
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod30-3.JPG
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sbig-1s.jpg

some comments - sorry if I miss anybody:

@Duracel welcome! good work so far how about something dramatic, take some chances
@retro002 I like the polygonny one how about a different angle
@Weyth welcome!
@mindcandyman love the realistic tongue on the previous one I think the penny has dropped no all that is required is practise :) hope your stomache feels better soon.
@bwiseman hey... give back bwiseman's toy/pencil/snack? Moody, the viewer lefthand side eye and the forehead could do with a touch of detail perhaps?
@ilex incredible hulk's sister ;) the proportions look good
@midnight23 accurate, looks like you worked from a photo
@Jester love the clean line one, from your avatar I think it looks a lot like you. The side view one has some proportion problems, I guess measureing will help here, but you knew that.
@Lionel oops looks like the headphones are slipping off
@Hexal the volumes are looking good, maybe try pushing the values a bit, have some really dark areas
@StephenC the top of the head looks big to me
@ZippZopp the line the eyes make is skew
@jhibbs I really like the loose lines of the first one
@RichardSmith interesting three headed beastie, I like the colour choice
@daarkenn your proportions aren't as accurate in the latest one as in some of the previous ones, you look tired. Thanks for the step by step on the previous one.
@Blackhawk good to see you having some fun, I like the red glow in the first one, the second one doesn't look that much like how I think you look, I like the looser brush work though.

[Hermchen]

I work on some illustrations for schoolbook these days...less time for SP's.
And the theme is second world war...so it's a bit hard to not let the work pull my moods down.
Gonna go dancing tonight...hope, that will helpfalling in love again.

http://home.arcor.de/hermchen/postingstuff/selfportraits/20.11.2002.JPG

[MindCandyMan]

Hermchen - This is an awesome one I really like it. I love the spontaneity (spelling?) it shows. Great work.


jhibbs - Thanks for the encouragement man. Your major is painting! Woohoo that's awesome. You definitely have the knack for it that's for sure. I will try to jump in with color.

miasmak - Thanks for the encouragement as well. Your stuff is improving so quickly. That pencil sketch of your feet and the one you did without erasing are very good. You are getting tremendously better...honestly. It's always hard to see it yourself but great stuff. I actually like the one with all the different brushes...it's cool. BTW my stomach feels totally fine now...needless to say it was gastro-intestinal. I will be back to my full drawing self tonight hopefully hehe.

[keyth]

and where the hell is keyth at?!?!

i'm dead. i have passed this world and entered another.

no. i apologize for the abrupt absence. i have just been taking a NEEDED break from things in order to pick my brains up off the floor and place them neatly inside my thick head.
i just need a day or two more to find the other peices and resurface.

cheers to all. be back in a couple.

[Baco Noir]

Just a few quick comments on the fly here. Will try to do an SP tonight if I am still conscious.


@Hexal - that last one of yours showed a great deal of improvement. Your proportions are coming together nicely. One thing that I have noticed is that you tend to shade the tip of your nose to distinguish it from the rest, but in all likelihood, it wouldn't be shaded because it would stick out into the light. Maybe try a couple shadow studies to see what you can come up with. Keep up the great work! :p
@MindCandy - Wow! It's amazing what a little shading can do. You're progressing in leaps and bounds, I can't believe you just started drawing 2 months ago...I'm horridly jealous.
Daarken - Your stuff, and I mean ALL of your stuff, continues to amaze me. You have a very distinctive style that screams "Daarken did that", yet enough diversity within that style that you don't come out with the same old thing all the time.
@Oblio - the pieces with the additional anatomy add a whole new dimension to your great facial studies. Kudos.
@Keyth - Where have you wandered off to? I've missed out on my daily dose of creepage lately....
@Mia - Welcome back! I really, really like the feel of the pencil works you posted. Keep 'em coming!
@Blackhawk - You know..sometimes shaking things up works wonders. As you've been experimenting with different techniques and whatnot, seems to me you've been improving. Maybe using different methods forces you to study yourself in ways you hadn't previously, I dunno...but they look great.
@bwiseman - The arrow prop picture was the funniest thing I've seen in ages. Got some strange looks in the computer lab when I started giggling out loud. :D
ilex - I continue to applaud your use of so-called "untraditional" colours for your SPs. They catch the attention immediately, yet don't seem to detract from the overall effect of the piece.


I know I've missed a bunch of people, and I apologize, but time she a-flyin' and I'm about to be late for class...again...

**Edit **Grrr....Keyth snuck in and posted while I was looking the other way. Heh...welcome back!

[jester]

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-041.JPG

Today my other half... ;) only 25minutes, got a cramp in my leg while drawing and hurried up.

Jester

@Lionel - I'm always amazed how round and "eyebally" you draw your eyes. Very convincing. As Blackhawk said: relax and try to see the good elements in your paintings. Friends and relatives are still saying that my portraits don't show me, but they admit that from time to time I catch certain elements. This keeps me going! No scanner, no digicam either? Hmmm, then it's really difficult to present traditional media art...

@Hexal - more patience and practice begins to show. Keep going! Tip for today: don't just try to fill your hair-area with some wild strokes but try to "block" hair shapes. Loomis explains this quite nicely. I was very unsatisfied with my drawing of hair for a while, then sat down, looked at Loomis and at the hair drawing tip of I think it was www.portraitartist.org (or com, don't remember right now), copied these and voila from then on I found my hair drawing much better (I even got an occasional "good job on the hair" reply!).

@Duracel - are you the one from Digital Decoy who applied for FH Münster?

@StephenC - though the proportions are a little off (as you mentioned yourself) I like the portrait very much - I'm always impressed by people who can draw expressions with so few lines!

@Agpaoa - whoa, a troll! :D

@ZippZopp - yep, proportions are off - but the colour blending on your cheek is really smooth!

@jhibbs - another one with very convincing eyes. Nice that you're back!

@RichardSmith - that's Janus extented :D I've never seen such a portrait before but it's great!

@daarken - I miss those people, too. Wetterschneider is also no longer around, is he? Very nice painting!

@Blackhawk - getting loose does you good. Yes, that second mirror wasn't that easy. I did almost all the previous drawings with a handheld one. I have another mirror in my hallway. It took me some time do develop the idea that together with my camera tripod I can make a construction which enables me to work with two mirrors. But it's uncomfortable and the light is rather indirect.

@MindCandyMan - hope you're feeling better by now.

@miasmak - feet are the wrong end for this thread ;) Very nice though. The other ones, too. Hope I did better measuring on my spod today.

[ilex]

so i worked all day yesterday on an assignment to create a self promotional postcard so i'm using it as my self portrait of the day. done partly with acrylics and partly with painter7.

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.19.02.jpg

ok im going to attempt to respond to as many on this page as possible:

@hexal: im glad to see you're working more on your shadows..i'd like to see you push the contrast even further...i get the feeling that you're tensed up when you're drawing though..like your arm isn't moving - just your wrist... try, when you're drawing to move the pencil with your whole arm rather than just your wrist...loosen up! i hope that makes sense...
@stephenc: there's something about this one i really like....i think it's the shading to the left of the face in contrast to the marker (?) lines...
@agpaoa: it scares me and makes me laugh at the same time! i feel like i need to wear glasses in order to see it clearly because it's so blurry and i think that's kinda neat..
@zippzopp: seeing your photo by your name i can see the resemblance in your paintings...and yeah! your nose really does go down like that!
@jhibbs: i love the second one and what you did with the background - im not so sure about your choice of gray in it - but it really does ad a sort of atmosphere and makes me wonder whats going on ...
@richardsmith: love your use of pink! your work reminds me of a vectorized photograph the way you've simplified everything down into individual shapes..
@daarken: i look forward to seeing your spods..they seem to evoke a lot of emotion and your use of color is very pleasing to me
@blackhawk: they're both great but im more drawn to the second one..i like the red that peaks through in places on the face
@mindcandy: this one of yours really struck me. its quite different from the ones i've seen of yours... the dark eyes seem to show how badly you were feeling and i like how everything is very loose. great jorb!
@miasmak: your third one looks to me like a really confident drawing. i like the shading on it
@hermchen: i love this piece! i hate the neon colors in the back but that's what i love about it! they make me feel uneasy as does the portrait so i think it really works somehow..what brush were you using for the face?
@baco noir: im not sure what "untraditional" colors are? is it that traditional colors are browns? i will try to do a traditionally colored piece tonight because i really don't think i ever have...(but thank you for the compliment!)
@jester: i feel like this piece is unfinished and im not sure what to say about it...im glad to see you're drawing from different viewpoints though...i always have a hard time with profiles but you seem to be fine with them!

ahh. wow. i did it! commented on everyone.
have a goodun.

[MindCandyMan]

Ilex I LOVE this one. The colors are like BAM POP...WHAM. I love the eyes. I have to ask too...you said, "jorb"...is that from homestar runner? that is hilarious!!!!!!!!! I love that cartoon.

I will do a more abstract sp piece tonight in addition to a technical one and post it.

[Oblio]

..and what if God would change His mind? I know that once you know everything you probably don't think at all. You dont have anything to think at. So God.. relays on... feelings then...
It seems true to me... it feels mutual.. but what if he has a sudden change of heart? I'll probably be even more stupid then I already am... lucky it doesn't hurt yet.
Thank you for your words guys. I hope to be able to come back to you as the one I used to be.

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/20nov.jpg


and the yesterday one...

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/19nov.jpg


Oblio

[MindCandyMan]

Oblio - For some reason your sketching style reminds me a lot of killing.people's...keep up the good work man. You will pull through this. Honestly, I will be praying for you...you seem to be having a really rough time.

[Hexal]

Thanks everyone. I will push the values further, its just that i have never taken a highschool art course except for right now in grade 11(that means i have to try and take Gr 10,11,12 visual arts in one and a half years.) and thats a sculpture course and we just started drawing stuff really. And that whole nose thing Baco noir i think i do it becasue i try to make the nose look 3d with the face(which isn't realy 3d though....) And Blackhawk im goint to try to find a time when i can get a hour and a half or more on one, but im allways realy busy.


*Edit* No Sp todya for me, its to late now (10:30) and unlike some people i can't do a Sp at 3 o'clock in the moring:p
But Expect a really good one tomorrow, Im goint to do it right after school for an hour then i have a tutor then come back to it and study my face and draw some more.

[Lionel]

Go to run as have to call me gf sorry for the lack of comments

http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me42.JPG

[MindCandyMan]

Latest self portraits.

This was my warm up one...first one I did:

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 57 ink brush self portrait.jpg


Quick pencil one...I wanted to keep it really really loose and quick.


http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 61 blue pencil sp.jpg




This self portrait is for Ilex:


http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 58 bizarro sp version 2.jpg

[tcarlson]

A self portrait that I did in oils, it took about 4 hours.. tell me what you think
http://www.rsad.edu/~tcarlson/thirdyearsite/sketches/tom2.jpg

[ZippZopp]

little bit happier with today's portrait.....

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1121.JPG

tcarlson: really nice portrait, it looks great. what size canvas is it?

mindcandyman: good stuff....lots of improvement. i like that last one you did, pretty cool stuff

lionel: yet another good one...nice job with it...i'd like to see some backgrounds on yours!!!

oblio: good stuff.....i hope everything is goin alright for you. i'm sure you'll pull out of it and be good to go soon!!

jester: nice profile, very simple, but gets the job done

miasmak: nice study on the feet, really great job on that, there something about it i really like, but can't put a finger on it

blackhawk: cool portraits. that second one came out really really good, i love the bold red background

daarken: great portrait, i really love the bright electric blue contrasting with the red palette for the portrait. gives it an electric feel

richardsmith; cool portrait. i had to take a few looks to figure it all out, really cool idea

jhibbs: great portraits, the hair came out really nice. good job

[ilex]

i was going to do a traditionally colored portrait but instead i did a study of mucha...

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.20.02.jpg

MindCandyMan!! aaaAAAHHH!! thank you!! that's great! what brush did you use to make the wormies coming out of your eyes?? it looks like it's really 3 dimensional... hope you had fun with it...it looks like you did!!

[retro002]

here the last couple o sketches. after about 130 sketchy sp's i did, i think i have come to a dead end. i definately have to reconsider what i'm doing. also i think having a skull available would help a bit out. - umm. have to see.

for all those ppl suggesting me doing different angles - i did, but do not consider em worth posting here (though these aint, too - seems to be some postingmania)

http://free.pages.at/retro002/xtra1.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/xtra2.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/xtra3.jpg

@ tcarlson: i'm not much of a painter, but gonna try anyway. as for anatomy, i think you got it quite right, except the ears seem to be not at the same height. also i think you cut a bit off the cranium (hope this is the right word - i aint not native english) on the right or went a bit too broad on the left side - imagine a vertical stroke on both sides and you'll see what i mean. think you did a good job with the neck, which i always find hard in this pose. the necklace seems to be very tight to the throat, perhaps too close, think it would be a bit more to the left (though not sure with that). as for me personally i dont like the reds you used for skincolour and find the red drips on the background somehow disturbing. away from that i think you did a good job.

[jhibbs]

retro-really like that last one there, new angles was a great idea.

lionel-you seem to have an increasing amount of grays in your sp's, they really kill the rest of the colors. id personally ratehr see it pushed more towards the vibrant end than grayscale. perhas start on a different background (white is supposed to be horrible for seeing color)

zippzopp-thanx a lot man:D try to start really rough when you paint. use huge brushes and then work your way down. it seems ridiculous, but the lesss you try to perfect the form immediately, the more it comes together at the end.

ilex-there's no grey in the background, only very pale green

tcarlson-kickarse oil man! i got a ways to go with real painting before im there :p

blackhawk-YAY another person using the seargant brush! how'd you find it? i find it responds much like oils (u paint?)

mindcandyman-wow i didnt know the impasto went that high :p

oblio-really like that goldish one, youre really nailing the proportions now.

ok i did several quicker ones tonight using the Loaded Palette Knife brush, here are the two i saved:
http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/f.txt

finished this image, but the sketch had an energy i lost in the final, so i used scripts to get back to this stage:
http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/sketch.txt

[Blackhawk]

Decided to try out one of Feeb's dirty marker renderings. This was actually a very fun brush to work with. I had to use undo a lot because of the unpredicatability of the buildup, but it gave a nice, active rendering I thought. Kind of like a picture with underexposed sections. This took me an hour and 10 minutes to do.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod67.jpg

MiaMask - Thanks for the feet picture :D The third one I definitely like. It looks like the most together one you've done to date. Excellent job.

Hermchen - Excellent job with this one. It has a very clear feel to it. Have fun dancing.

Baco - Thanks. I find trying different stuff and never relying on one thing has helped keep me from stagnating. Sometimes if I work a certain brush or medium too much, (except for charcoal and pencil :D) I feel like I begin to stagnate and it kills any motivation behind what I'm doing. Plus, it's fun to experiment overall. I'm still very new to art and I'm trying as many different techniques and as many different styles and mediums as possible.

Jester - Thanks. Great job again on this one. The chin seems abrupt and unnatural, but overall very well executed. I will find a wall mirror this weekend and then I'll set up a rig to do a profile. It would make for an interesting exercise.

Ilex - Thanks. Your last two are beautiful. Especially the very last one, outstanding job.

Oblio - Great job on these. I hope you feel better soon. I will let you in on a little trick I do to help myself feel better. I run 3-4 miles everynight, and on the nights I feel down I will run the entire time just talking to myself. Even with no one there, it feels great to air my thoughts and feelings and then I will compliment myself towards the end of the run. By the time I get home, I feel like a million bucks as Keyth would say :) Remember the rough time I was having acouple weeks ago? This is exactly how I broke out of my funk and I feel great now. I'm sure I'll have episodes hit me again, but now I have a weapon to myself feel better. I hope you clear this hurdle soon and I'll be pulling for you man. If you need to talk or vent, my PM is open. Take it easy bud.

Lionel - Great job, the colors and values are much more unified in this one. Excellent job man.

MindCandyMan - I had a really sick stomach this morning too, must have been something I ate last night :D Great job on the second and third one. The third one with the impasto looks like the eyeballs are melting out of the head. Keep it up bud, your doing great.

Tcarlson - Excellent painting. There are some proportional and feature placement issues, but that doesn't really detract from this one at all, beautiful work. More please :)

Zippzopp - Thanks. Watch for the form on the nose, the lips came together better in this one though. Keep pounding away it man, your stuff is improving.

Retro - The first with the teeth... excellent. These are definitely worth posting and I'd love to see the stuff you didn't want to post :D

Jhibbs - Yeah, it seemed like it responded much more like oils. I don't paint traditionally much though, and that's something I'm trying to resolve. I need money for more paints though and both seem to be lacking for me right now though :D The eyes on the top one have very good form to them. Good job man.

Have a great Thursday everyone.

[Nold]

I thought I should try to get a good looking picture using some other colors ( daarken, thanks for inspiration). I wish i had time to finish it, but I'll do another one tomorrow.

http://www.nhoch2.de/images/spod/20021121SP1.jpg

Jester: A second mirror is a good idea, I thing I will get one as soon as possible.

Lionel thanks for the hint and the nice words. I really like your stuff but I think jhibbs is right. Your pictures are too gray.

Mia: Nice feet. Keep up the good work. You're improving a lot.

tcarlson: Welcome, nice work.

ilex: Wow !!! Magnificent piece ! I really love it !

[jester]

Well, was too much in a hurry today to rig up the second mirror again. Just 15 minutes with warm grey markers (just two, Copic WG2 and WG4, I guess that's 20% and 40% grey).

In case you wonder who that strange woman without glasses is whom I drew... it's me with contact lenses (just returned from the sauna and thought it might be quite interesting for a change).

I only wear the lenses occasionally because my eyesight is too bad to see really sharp - so it's always straining (? vocabulary?) my eyes too much.

Jester

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-042.JPG

[Oblio]

here i go - open canvas again.


blackh - thank you friend. That running ideea is not for me - i'll be having all the dogs (full of tramp dogs around) chasing me. Not fun...
I can choose to go climbing, or paragliding or such stuff.. but i think i enjoy more drawing. It's a sort of meditatrion - i don't think at the drawing too much - i'm only letting it go...
anyway.. i'm better (i think) - than you so much. It helped!

jibbs - i try to get my planes as sharp as you do but i can't seem to make it. Maybe i need to keep my mind at it more :D

retro - i will always love your lines.

ilex - nice change!
mindecandy - like the pencil one. more!
lionel - i don't remember who said it - but.. we would love to see you tempting us with "concept-Sp's" - do something diferend friend.. it looks like you can but you don;t want to... :)

[Lionel]

Wasn't really in the mood today :/.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me43.JPG

MindCandyMan: Love the last one :)

tcarlson: That is awesome

ZippZopp: Arr just seen I have a pm from you on sijun doh. Will write a rpely tommorow (I had one written but there was a power cut and I lost it :/) I use painter 7.0 and a round camelhair brush btw :)

ilex: This is lovely

retro002: Have you ever tired etching. If you feel your at a dead end It would be worth a go. I really think it would suit your style

jhibbs: I do seem to see a lot of grays in the world :/. I should proably put less of them in. Nice green background for you :).

Blackhawk: Looks like you had fun with that one

Nold: Looks goo try mixing in some brows and yellows in the shadows and highlight to really bring it to life

jester: Looks good. I never wear my glasses when painting as I only wear them for close work so I leave them at work so I don't lose them :).

Oblio: You managed to post while I was in the middle of writing :) Looks good. Your proportions are getting better :).

[jester]

Ooops, forgot to paste my comments... :rolleyes:

But this makes it possible to include the new spods, too :D

Here they are:

@ilex - somehow your drawing (yesterday's) wouldn't show up. Probably it's my new firewall, because i can't see Oblio's either. Your feeling of my drawing being unfinished is right - I got a cramp in my leg due to the uncomfortable position with my mirror rigging and hurried this piece. I like that romantic full sized piece you did for today.

@Oblio - since the others seem to see your posts I think it could be me firewall, perhaps.

@Lionel - nice one again. Did you put up some weight ;)?

@MindCandyMan - the quick pencil one shows your improvement very nicely. Like all the others I like what you did with the impasto tool, but I also like the way you used the colors in this.

@tcarlson - wow!

@ZippZopp - yep, nose/plane arrangement is definitely improving!

@retro002 - but still those different angles might lead you to new places?!

@jhibbs - I like the second one better, perhaps because the first feels too abstract for me.

@Blackhawk - yes, this one looks like a photo done in an experimental technique. Nothing to crit! You are right on my chin, one of the weakest parts in this portrait, I think.

@Nold - like the red lighting. Do you really have such a broad chin area? I used to be irritated by mine (and the shadows), too.

@Oblio - your OpenCanvas piece looks like markers, too. Good job. And - thanks!

@Lionel - mouth is too small again...

Have a good night, everybody!

Jester

[bwiseman]

hey everybody, here's mine for the 21st...

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2021.jpg

[Hexal]

Heres im for today not very good concidering the time i spent on it(over a hour) Tomorrows friday so i can skip hw and spend a really long time on one:D And im not to sure about what values are,(the shades i think) since i haven't really taken a high school art course on visual arts yet, Could someone give me a link to a tutoral or explain this for me?

http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port29.jpg

[Oblio]

Happy birthday Norstrand Torstein! :happybirt: :party:
Don't be a stranger...

Oblio

[Agpaoa]

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov21-2002.JPG


Yes, I do enjoy the dirty marker.

[Nordstrand, T]

*blush* :p

I love this thread and all it's frequenters. Though forced to the spectators' row, I still visit to see what's new. Luvya :bheart:

PS: Oblio - the check is in the mail ;)

PPS: I felt so bad about not contributin' that I made another step-by-step in the appropriate secion.

[ZippZopp]

did this by looking at a photo tonight...had some fun with the digital camera and lighting tonight....

http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1122.jpg

Happy B-Day Nordstrand!!!!

Hexal: getting better, everytime is better, try to work out those lips a bit more and some definition in the chin area! as for values...you're right, they are shades. think about putting a white square down on the left and black square down at the right. white would be value 1, black would be 10....fill in between with even shades of grey and you've got values 1 thru 10.

bwiseman: that one rocks, i really love not only the portrait, but the composition is awesome! nice job

agpaoa: very stylistic! i really like that one, i gotta experiment with that dirty marker, lots of people seem to like it!


lionel: nice job on this one, i like the expression. no worries on the email, i'm figuring things out by experimenting! cheers


Jester: really cool one, i like it a lot, totally different without the glasses, i think it looks great. proportions are right on!


blackhawk, another great one, no crits, but i think it looks sweet

jhibbs: cool quick ones, that loaded palette knife is an interesting brush...i'm still not totally used to it, but its cool to work with

[daarken]

bwiseman: cool, i like the colors. nice brushwork as well, woo!

nold: nice work, just finish your ear, its a black hole.

blackhawk: very nice! i really like this one. you are getting really good. great proportions as well!

jhibbs: i like the quick ones, great job!

tcarlson: great oil sp! i really like all the colors in the shadow side.

sorry, too lazy to write more :P

quick one from memory again.
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-21.jpg

[retro002]

hey blackhawk, these are for you.

-have fun with the flaws-

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-1.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-2.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-3.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-4.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-5.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-6.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-7.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-8.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-9.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/Unbenannt-10.jpg

this one from day before yesterday

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst096.jpg

as i wasted 15 minutes of my life for scanning them, i'd like to see you (blackhawk) do a traditional pencil piece from slightly below. (i want the time back, you see ):D

i'm not sure about etching, havent done it, but know a bit how this is meant to work, maybe i'll get a book an give it a try.

@jester: problems i have are of another nature, it's not the angles, i have tried, believe me.

[ilex]

this doesn't seem to fit with the work on this forum but oh well. tonight im a kitty cat.

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.21.02.JPG

[Blackhawk]

Retro, despite some of the flaws these SP's were incredible. Especially the last one in the pencil, I loved it. To show my appreciation here is one I did tonight like you asked for. Had a bit of trouble with it, but I hope you appreciate the effort. Thanks man.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod68.jpg

Nold - Great work with the colors on this one. Watch out for some of the feature placement though. Keep working at it.

Jester - Great job man. I like this one, nice new look and approach.

Lionel - As Jester pointed out, mouth is too narrow. I'd like to see you get crazy one of these days bud :DBw. Good work though, you pulled the cheeks and neck together nicely on this one.

Oblio - No problem bud, I tried :D I just know how it feels to be in the dumps. I had severe depression the last two years and only this year did I finally climb out of it. I probably spent most of last year trying to figure out how to get over it without popping pills or seeing a shrink. Daily exercise is what did it for me. It's a great way for me to let out stress and unwind. I used to play ice hockey 7 days a week back in high school and I felt wonderful then, so I should have clued in the last couple of years and seen the sign :) It's good to see your feeling better though. Keep looking up and thinking positive, you'll feel grand.

Hexal - Best way to learn values is to draw from life. Go outside and draw something. Stay inside and draw a still life. Absolutely the best way to learn is just to draw from life everyday. Here is an example of what we used to do back in highschool though. It's the standard value bars. It's a good exercise to try to reproduce all the values without having one box match in value with another. This is a rushed, shoddy example though. It can be done a million different ways though, some people use 8 boxes, others use 10 and so on. I learned with 10, but you can easily do 8 and some do it with fewer I think. Here's an example...

http://members.cox.net/spagina/valuebars.jpg

This is just a quick example though and I didn't work the values too well, but hopefully it gives you a general idea about what I was talking about. Keep working at it bud.

Bwiseman - Beautiful job. That lip highlight really gives that lip life.

Aga - Beautiful work with the eyes on this one. Dirty marker is a fun brush though isn't it :D

Zipp -Thanks. Nose form is kind of funky on this one, but otherwise great job. The feature placement is much more accurate on this one. Great work bud.

Daarken - Thanks. Great pencil rendering work on this one. I want more :D

Ilex - LOL, I felt like making myself look like an ogre tonight until Retro called on me to do a pencil piece. I think tonight's SP of mine still looks a little ogrish though :D

Have a great Friday everyone.

Oh, forgot one thing. Happy belated birthday Nordstrand. Sorry I missed it earlier. I'm passing in and out of conciousness right now as my insomnia is kicking in :D

[MindCandyMan]

Sorry had to do a quick one last night. Quick sketch.


For everyone who was wondering about my last self portrait. I used the gloopy impasto brush.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 62 quick pencil sp.jpg


Blackhawk - I really like this one a lot. And that value list thing is really good. That helps me a lot thanks for posting it! I can't wait to see you as an ogre hehe. I love the dirty marker one too btw.

ilex - This is awesome hehe. Man I looked at some of the tatoos you have done...WOW insane! They look awesome. Your welcome (about the sp)...I thought you would like that one hehe.

retro - Holy self portraits batman. That is awesome. You did so many! I really like the last pencil one on your latest post. Awesome work.

daarken - you do a self portrait better from memory than I do looking at my ugly mug...sheesh. Your stuff is awesome.

zipp- This one is really cool. You can light very well in greyscale I have noticed. Your greyscale stuff is lit really well. The nose seems a little long in this one. Great work bro...you are getting a lot better I can see it. Keep em coming.

Agpaoa - Awesome stuff. Never messed with the dirty marker. I will have to try that. Looks great though. Keep em coming. I love the close angle of your portraits.

Hexal - Keep it up bro. Don't stop doing them. You are getting a lot better. Shading is really hard so don't feel too overwhelmed. Just keep going...push through the difficulty...you will come out a better artist on the other side.

bwise - looks awesome. I must say too that I went to your website and saw you picking that orange...your self portraits look exactly like you. Great job man.

Lionel - Thanks for the comments. I really like this one. I know what you mean though...sometimes you just aren't in the mood hehe. Still looks great though.

jester - I really like this last one. It looks really good. Watch the angle of the nose (I hate drawing the nose at an angle...so annoying). At any rate good stuff man you are improving significantly.

Nold - I love the lighting setup, scheme you have going on with this one. Watch your proportions though.

jhibbs - Those last ones you did are really awesome!!! I love them. They are simple but I really like the colors...expression. Good job.


Oblio - I will keep working harder to give you more! hehe

Everyone is doing awesome keep it up guys.

[coriat]

hey everyone, this is the only one this week that looks a bit like me... :/ this one was done in pencil, the others were in charcoal....i'm starting to hate charcoal :rolleyes:
but that's just me.

the only thing i can think of are the lips, it seems like im biting my lips...which wasn't planned, but i decided to leave it this way since it reflects the state i'm in :(.

and the face is a bit too square, it should be longer... i feel good about it though :D weirdo me.

http://home.hccnet.nl/henk.middendorp/jurjen/tekeningen/22-11.jpg

oblio - !!!! no crits, i'm in total silence :D wow! nice!

retro - i think you tend to draw eyes a bit large :/ not sure though...
even if the eyes are big, those are still very good :D i'm glad you stopped doing sp's :rolleyes: :p

-mindcandy: keep pushing! the last one is *much* worse then ur previous ones .... which is logical since it was a quicky, as you said.

-Happy B-day nordstrand!

-blackhawk: good drawing... if you would make the more fleshy parts of the ...the big fleshy parts under the eye, you know...whats that called in english? but if you would make those more visible, that last drawing would be really good!
a bit more contrast on the cheecks(?) now the space next to the mouth looks a bit flat. which is a shame on such a good drawing!

ill comment some more on my next post :) gotta run...
:chug:

[MindCandyMan]

I forgot to mention tcarlson last time I posted. That oil self portrait was really awesome man. I just wanted to let you know how cool that was. Great work.

Coriat - Yeah you are right...was like a 3-4 minute one. My wife was yelling at me so I had to stop hehe.

[captain_harlock]

Wheee!! What fun!
yes, I look a little cross-eyed, but I like it that way. Maybe I should have pushed it further though, to make it look more intentional.

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.geocities.com/andy_foltz/afselfportrait11-20-02.jpg

[blankslatejoe]

Hey guys! It's been awhile since my last post, i have to get the knack of working quicker I suppose. This was done with acrylics on illustration board over two days. http://ramsites.net/~mirabellojr/images/portfolio/pt_bwsp.jpg

[Baco Noir]

A fool and her coffee re soon separated. But not if you know what's good for ya. I get cranky as heck without my caffeine in the morning.

I realize it looks slightly digitized, but due to the crappiness of my cheezy scanner, the pictures scan horribly and I have to fiddle for bit to at least make the picture discernible. Maybe I should splurge and buy a new scanner...hrmm...

Done originally in 6B pencil. The funky lines through my forehead are actually sentences, since I doodled this on the back of my Immunology Assignment. :D

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Nov22c.jpg

And now...:o ...It is time for bed.

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.22.02.JPG

mindcandy: thanks for checkin out my site!
thanks to everyone else who commented on my drawrings ... i'll do some commenting when i = awake....8D

[Duracel]

@Jester - "@Duracel - are you the one from Digital Decoy who applied for FH Münster?"
Yes i am! ;)


@miasmak - "@Duracel welcome! good work so far how about something dramatic, take some chances"
hehe, ok, here it is:

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self19.jpg


@retro002 nice collection! ;)

@blackhawk good good *wait for more*

@ilex, nice one ... too blue for my personal preference. ;)

@all other, good work, good work, good work, too. ;)

[bwiseman]

I tried this angle again...still extremely difficult for me. I think the other one I did was much more successful. But, here it is anyways...

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2023.jpg

[nottabird]

These are my first self portraits in awhile. Hopefully I can contribute more often.

This one bothers me alot now cuz I didn't notice the difference in the sizes of the eyes until I saw it on my computer. So I'll probably change that soon, but do you think I should make the right eye bigger or left eye smaller?

http://www.smallpunk.com/art/charcoal_02_small.jpg


This is my first effort with oil pastels. I still haven't quite gotten the hang of them yet but they're fun anyway. Oh yea and the picture came out a little blurry but it isn't my camera so I can't take anymore yet.

http://www.smallpunk.com/art/pastel_selfport_small.jpg


Crit away!

[Oblio]

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/22nov.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/22nov_2.jpg

thx. 4 comments. keep it up. gotta go!

Oblio

[Blackhawk]

I worked on this for 4 hours last night. Internet died on me though so I couldn't post, sorry :( New SP and comments later tonight.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod69.jpg

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

blackhawk....very nice rendering.....looks like you stopped short on the ears...either that or you have some major frostbite. either way, it looks painfull.



wee fun.
this thread is a way of life.

thx andrew jones, thanks concept art.http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/dark-light%20fresco2.jpg

[Ironspy]

first post... meh

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/spod11_23_02-copy.gif

I don't even want to bother anymore...

[ZippZopp]

well, weekends are tough for me to get portraits done. i had tried about 4 times today to do one and nothing was working, everything was coming out like crap, so i wasn't too happy, so i came back and let a little steam off with this one, came out ok, but i did it quite quickly.....a bit sinister, but it was a good release

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1124.jpg

blackhawk: that one rocks!!! great rendering, color and lighting. i really really like this new one!

Oblio: good stuff, i like the simplicity, straightforward approch

bwise: i think it looks great to be honest. another great one from you. i've not really tried that pose, i'll have to give it a try


duracel: awesome job i love the color palette and the rendering is nicely done!

[ilex]

done at work with a staedler pen and prismacolor markers. my hands really hurt tonight.

http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.23.02.jpg

[McNallyism]

hey its my first self portrait with painter seven. All oil pastel tool. I'm the last one in the building...

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/mcnallyism/mcnallyself1.gif

-Sean

[mime]

Here i am at it again ... after a long vacation .... (well not really, i was still drawing, but not SPs)

quick one (25 mins) in painter7, dry ink and dib pen thing

i'll try to comment later, and maybe do another one today :)

http://erhnam.free.fr/spod8.jpg

[Blackhawk]

I did these two from memory tonight. I did 3 others with these two, but they looked nothing like me at all. I know I promised to comment tonight, but it's almost 5am for me and I'm up late enough as it is. Comments tomorrow, promise :D

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod70.jpg

[Lionel]

Planing around with the sargent brush
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me44.JPG

[bwiseman]

Decided to do a drawing today...

http://www.brettwiseman.com/Paintings/self%20portrait%20nov%2024.jpg

[Oblio]

here are my last attempts. I try to push things on so it's not going to be a nice one every time. I'm still at the verry begining. DAMN!


http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/24nov.JPG

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/25nov.JPG

bwiseman - lovely - i think i have just undestood some values tips from your last SP. Thank you! I'll try it myself asap.

lionel - i know you can to more - jump out of that color scheme... try a new palette... etc. Maybe a concept SP - you as clown, you as space marine.. something.. come on.. show us what you've got ;)

Blackhawck - yessss... i have to try one without ref. too. Damn.. that left one (my left) is good. Hmm...

McNallysm - :bow: - Chief... welcome to our tribe... can you show us another one? We likey...

[faB]

Hello everyone
Here is a self portrait I did this w-e
critique welcome
'sable tip' sketch in painter classic
http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-a2.jpg

sable tip + a little dry brush
http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-a1.jpg

McNallyism I like it, the upper lip seems a little fat ? I wish I could get a oil paint effect like that in Painter Classic.. I wonder if Painter 7's oil brush is different ? I dont get it at all.. it seems to mix pretty much randomly 2 colours so I never know what I get when I put down a stroke :/

~faB

[ZippZopp]

definately didn't do any work today at all, i was drawing, sketching and doing stuff for myself all day. this one came out pretty nice i think

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1125.jpg

faB: nice drawing, the painting seems to be coming along nicely. good work

bwiseman: nice traditional drawing. i haven't tried a self portrait traditionally in quite sometime. i'll have to give it a shot and post it soon. nice job!

lionel: good one. i like the feel of it, and the color palette is really nice. i've gotta try that brush out

blackhawk: awesome sketch. i've not tried one from memory yet, i should though, to see where i stand.

[Hexal]

I have;nt done one for about three day. Things got a little distracting around the house with people coming over and use going to peoples houses, But im back at it for the week at least,( going to dads on weekend) The lips and nose are off a bit cuase i had to get up and i could'nt find the postion i was in before. I think more confident and find it a little easier and easier to do every time, Plus i feel my self loosening up a bit more each time.

Nov 24
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port30.jpg

[mime]

i did another one today, still BW and very fast, trying the liquid inks this time .... interesting

and the headphone is here as a tribute to keyth =)

http://erhnam.free.fr/spod9.JPG



i will try to comment a little ....

@fab : the sketch looked a little weird to me, but some of the issues are gone in the painting, great color and really nice portrait imho

@Mc : wow, very nice oil painting aspect, and nice colors, great. maybe the upper lips issue like it was mentionned ...

@ironspy : lovely watercolors, i think they are very hard to handle well, and you surely did

well i'll try to comment more the next time, i'm tired :))

[keyth]

HEY EVERYBODY...remember me? Things have been like a tornado lately. I am going to jump back aboard tomorrow. everyone seems to be rock'n. so keep'em com'n folks.:chug: .

once again, my apologies. i shall return tomorrow and grace everyone with my ugly mug.

so, how is everyone?:p :chug:

[MindCandyMan]

Hey Everyone,

Starting tomorrow I will be gone for a week. I am going to be in Texas. I will still be drawing my self portraits but they will all be in pencil (no access to computer). I will post them all when I get back next tuesday. I will comment tomorrow morning at work on everyone's GREAT GREAT self portraits!!!!!! You guys are getting so good sheesh.


Ok because of the pressure you guys always put on me to try something new hehe (I love you for it too!!!!!!!!!)...I tried to work with color tonight. This was the first time I have ever done anything really in color on my own. I did a tomato with the help of a tutorial...it's a lot harder straight from your brain hehe. Anyways...here it is...I am posting the step by step in the "step by step" thread. I am gonna try to get a quicktime movie of my script as well...not sure if anyone wants it hehe...

There are LOTS OF MISTAKES in this one but I had fun and learned a lot...enjoy.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Wizard Portrait final version.jpg

[ZippZopp]

i was gonna go to bed, but i had the urge to do another portrait...so i figured i'd make it qiuck and try one from memory. so i did this one in about 10 or 15 minutes...sorta looks like me, pretty good i guess for the first one from my head.

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1125a.jpg

[hed|lamb]

I've got to get back in this as soon as possible. Really nice work going on in here, good to see some of the old heads still at it. =)

[Madman!]

well I haven't posted in awhile, but I still look at your guys drawings like at least every other day. Everyone seems to keep getting better and better so hopefully I will post more and get better as well.


about 20-30mins getting better with loomis's help
http://joemadfan.com/myfacenet.jpg

[retro002]

@coriat: you're definately right about the eyes, took me about 3 months to figure this out, you could have told me earlier ;)

painter is more fun, than expected.


http://free.pages.at/retro002/digiself2.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/digiself3.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/digiself1.jpg

[Oblio]

Yes Retro.. you have found the path. :bow:
Keep Walking :D
We've been waiting for them a long time now...
Great to see you at it!

Oblio

[Blackhawk]

Tonight was a complete swing and a miss. Ugh, I hate even talking about this one. I really got to experience my dark side while doing this one. I almost tore every bit of hair out of my head while trying to do this. Hopefully it all comes together better for me tomorrow night, felt like I took a huge step backwards tonight.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod71.jpg

Oblio - You kick ass man, it's great to see you challenging yourself. Thanks for the comments.

Retro - These are absolutely beautiful. You've really outdone yourself on this last bunch.

Zippzopp - Great job bud. You've really pushed yourself the last couple of days and I'm thoroughly impressed. The memory one is fun, isn't it? Too bad my mind blanked when I was doing mine last night. I really had to think hard last night to remember what I looked like and it felt strangely odd to me.

Mindcandy - Great job on the eye, really sparkles, but the edges are too swimmy in this one. Everything looks too blurred out. Great job for a first try though.

Keyth - Get back you numbskull :D Everything is peachy, except for a few crappy days thrown in here and there :)

Lionel - Listen to Oblio :D Keep pushing it bud, we want to see you get wild.

McNally - Incredible job, I like a lot.

Bwiseman - Great job on your last few. The left eye on the pencil one kind of flattened out and the iris poofed wide :D Great job man, I love seeing your stuff everyday.

Fab, Mime, Madman - Great job to the three of you. I really like these ones a lot.

Hexal - Head proportions are coming together much better in this one. I'm really starting to see the improvement. Keep pushing yourself and keep looking, and look some more. Watch out for the form of the nose as well.

Have a great Monday everyone. Hopefully it pulls together better for me tomorrow night.

[Hermchen]

@ Mindcandy: I want to congratulate you to the great improvements you made last month. From simple linework to values and colors! Let's have a celebration :chug:

@everyone else: keep up the good and inspiring work.

http://home.arcor.de/hermchen/postingstuff/selfportraits/25.11.2002.jpg

[MindCandyMan]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRgGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

I just spent like 20 minutes replying to everyone and conceptart ate my message. It made me log in and didn't keep my message. Sheesh.

Ok I will give the abridged responses this time.

I am going to be in Texas for a week so I won't be able to post anything during that time. I will be doing pencil self portraits though...you guys better not stop when I'm gone hehe. Keep it up everyone.

This was a ball point pen sketch looking in the train window.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 63 ball point pen train sp.jpg


Hermchen - Thanks so much man. Your work has been really inspiring for me. Thanks for the encouragement. I am glad that I am progressing...it's hard to see when you are in the midst of it. I am trying new things even though they suck heheh. Thanks for the kind words. It means a lot. BTW your newest self portrait is awesome bro. :chug:

Blackhawk - I LOVE THIS ONE...it reminds me of the movie seven or something. I know you were frustrated...but I think this one was really awesome. You don't take steps backward...as long as you are drawing you are going forward. Quick question...waht did you mean about the edges being too blurry. You mean the edges between the values...like the dark and the medium and the light? Like I should make it more contrasty? Thanks for the help bro.

retro - These rock...love the yellow eyed one.

madman- good work keep em coming. The nose might need to pertrude out a little more.

ZippZopp - Awesome self portrait from memory.

mime - you have a very good understanding of light. This one is awesome.

Hexal - Your portraits get better and better. They are starting to get more 3d. Keep pushing bro.

fab - awesome work. I love the skin tones you have achieved and the rosy cheeks.

Oblio - drawing fabric is hard...let alone on on your head. Great work man...keep pushing yourself you rock!

bwiseman - great to see you in pencil. Ever since seeing that picture of you on your website I am amazed at how you capture your likeness. Great work bro.

Lionel - That pose is hilarious. Keep pushing!

McNallyism - This portrait is awesome. How did you get that oil painting look?

ilex - this one is really scary :eek: I love it

Ironspy - Looks awesome. Wow you really work well with watercolors. Great work.

wazzo - Looking good man. I like the pose.

nottabird - I love the multicolored one. Keep em coming.

Duracel - That opened mouth one is awesome. Great stuff.

Baco Noir - some people can't be seperated from their coffee...that was hilarious. I cracked up when I read it.

blankslatejoe - Really hard angle! You accomplished it really well!

Captain harlock - That expression is hilarious. I love the tint on your glasses.

Coriat - Looking good bro. Push the values and the contrast a little more to make it more 3d.

Everyone is doing awesome...keep up the good work guys. You all rock!

[MindCandyMan]

I thought you guys would get a kick out of this(Hermchen got me thinking)...this was the first painting (digitally or otherwise...considering I have never done a traditional painting) that I ever did on September 15th of this year. When I look at my stuff I usually don't see any kind of progress...then I looked at this one today hahahahahahah...hilarious. If you ever feel frustrated just look at a past drawing. It will help you keep going. I'm definitely not good now...but I know one thing...I am better than when I painted this monstrosity heheh.

http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/painting_number_one.jpg

[Nold]

I was a little bit angry today... heres my SP.

http://www.nhoch2.de/images/spod/20021125SP1.jpg

daarken: I had no time to finish the picture. And for some mysterious reasons the ear is always the last thing I do. This time I have an ear. :D

mindcandy: Congratulations, you are improving a lot. Just go on like this.

captain_harlock & duracel: Nice work, I love it.

[MindCandyMan]

I love this one Nold...it's awesome. Sometimes when emotions are at their highest...some excellent art can creep out. Keep it up bro...you are getting better and better with each self portrait I see.

Thanks for the encouragement. I will keep going forward...most definitely! You guys are an awesome motivational force.

[Oblio]

What's up guys... got sick of your reflections? :beer:

Anyway... here is an update for today. No big deal.

Jennie got a gun...
Oblio got a job :p he he... :chug:

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/25nov2.JPG

Oblio

P.S. - No .. i have declined Troika's offer - i'm not willing to relocate. :D

[Lionel]

Had a very very frustrating time playing around with the water color brush and other and ended up with mush :/. I painted this quikly to make myself feel better.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me45.JPG

[ZippZopp]

one of my better ones i think...i'm actually really happy with this one

http://www2.trincoll.edu/~czoppi/drawings/spod1126.jpg

lionel: good stuff. i know what pain it is to start something or mess around and nothing good comes out. but i think this one is done nicely. good job

oblio: great expression! sort of mysterious! i like!

nold: cool portrait! i had one of those days the other day and drew a little angry one! i like the glow of the eyes.

mindcandy: cool sketch, looks like it was a fun quick one to do. i agree that its pretty funny to look back at work and see how far you've progressed. i thought a bunch of my drawings from my first drawing class were really really good, i look back on them now and see how far i've come! keep it up

hermchen: thats awesome, there is something about that portrait that i really like. i think the white background gives it this mystical glow. really well done. i also like the underpainting of grey with the small brush strokes on top.

blackhawk: i've seen so much good work from you that its nothing to worry about. i've had those days and i get so damn frustrated. but you bounce back, i'm sure i'll see some great stuff from you

retro: those are brilliant!!! each and every one have something special about them, very very nicely done. i really like the middle one, with the glowing eyes! sweet job!

madman: reading the loomis stuff is a big help, i've just gotten into it and i'm already learning from it. good portrait you've got there, i think a little varition in tones will really make them pop! keep working

[Nold]

MIndcandy: thanks for the nice words.

Oblio: Congratulations !!

Lionel: You should really try something new. other colors for example.

ZippZopp: Very good ! You're improving a lot !

[keyth]

back from the dead. well, this one's not too pretty...but then again...neither am i.:p

kind of a quickie.

today
http://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nov25sp.JPG

[miasmak]

all analog
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sbig-2s.jpg
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sbig-3s.jpg
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sbig-4s.jpg

last one was in sepia ink but I saved in greyscale by mistake after the scan sorry, you'll have to use your imagination

:mumble: some sorry excuse for not giving detailed comments, here's my meagre contribution anyway

The pace in this place is so intense

@faB, @McNallyism, @nottabird, @Ironspy and those new faces I've missed Welcome good to see how you see yourself

@retro wow, wow, you are moving!!

@duracel, good going, keep going

@oblio, congrats so my get-oblio-a-job-spell may have worked :D hope you won't be to busy to post now

@ilex cool blue, the post card one is cute too

@mime, I realy like the liquid ink one.

@mindcandyman, kryptonite thief!

@blackhawk, frustrated one has a lot of raw energy, nov24 is beautiful and has a small patch of the raw energy emerging in the ear ;) good restrained highlights on nov24

@ZippZopp you are really progressing

@keyth well hello stranger! Mmmm, big forehead?

[ilex]

yesterday:
http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.24.02.JPG

today:
http://www.botticeli.com/spod/11.25.02.JPG

mindcandy! that's great! it's really cool to see you pushing yourself and not only having fun doing it but doing a great job!
all of you are really inspiring...
i promise promise i will do critiques on lotsss of portraits ...i just haven't been able to sit here and go through them all and i feel reallly bad posting and not commenting on others but i promise i will!!!

[Gecko]

android, thanks for the huge amount of inspiration you are giving us.

http://koti.welho.com/pveikko2/oma251102.jpg

i did 18 others too, they can be found under

http://koti.welho.com/pveikko2/

[Hexal]

Heres yesterdays becase i couldn't get on for some reason yesterday.

Nov 25
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port31.jpg

got to go to school now....:mad:

[Ironspy]

mind, but I like the first one... :)

[jester]

This is last Friday's spod, which I haven't managed to post earlier. I think I have done better ones before.

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-043.JPG

And this is today's (new pencil, which made me run into that old nose problem again):

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-044.JPG

Jester


@McNallyism - oh, that's what you look like. Nice to see you!

@mime - like your portraits very much! Tribute to keyth - :D I should try that, too, it's only that I#ve got such small headphones...

@Blackhawk - that memory portrait is great. I think I should try this one day, too. Perhaps as a celebration when I do my 50th portrait - which won't last that long. The red one, uhm, the nose is quite good actually.

@Lionel - usual problem, mouth appears too small...

@bwiseman - that drawing looks good, do more!

@Oblio - I like the one with the sheet over your head. Good observation of the folds. And you've managed to get a job! Congratulations! :D I'm really happy for you! :) BTW it WAS my new firewall...

@faB - looks good, esp. the second one.

@MindCandyMan - the hat sits wrong on your head but the overall impression of the drawing is good! Nice mood. Have a nice time in Texas!

@ZippZopp - compared to your avatar your portrait (drawing) looks a bit broad; the memory one looks good! The color one is nicely done. I especially like the sharp shadow on your brow.

@Hermchen - nice one, like an old b/w photo

@keyth - good to see you again!

@miasmak - I like the middle one best, can't tell why.

@ilex - yesterday's is ok but today's is amazing!

@Gecko - really nice!

[Nold]

jester: Look at the shape of your jaw. Seems to have quite a sharp curve in your pictures. ( In the first one on the left, in the second on the right side).

gecko & miasmak: nice work

ilex: I really love the one with the moon. nice work.

keyth: nice to see you're back.

[mime]

wow, Gecko ... the great Gecko ... its an honour to have you here

I'm a huge fan of your art, especially your animals (i remember some pelican wich was awesome, and birds, and lizards, etc ...)

the village.jpg pic on your web space is awesome

and great SP

i dont think i will do one today, i'm exhausted, and i come back from life drawing session, i shall post the life paintings i did tomorrow.

cya soon, and i'll try to comment more people the next time, you're all great, i'm honoured to be part of this :)

[Oblio]

a quick one.
not to worry.. from experience.. having a job means more free time :D
I think you become relaxed and things change weight... :p

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/26nov.JPG

Oblio

[Lionel]

ZippZopp: Looking good:) nice work on the hair

Nold: I am trying to do something new. I will try pushing harder

keyth: God to see you back from the dead. ROCK ON!!

miasmak: Lovely vibrant colors

Gecko: That one is awsome :). I am off to read thouse sargent notes

Hexal: Good work. Try concentration on your shapes more

Oblio: Congresa on getting a new Job (I asume from your comments you have one)

Well I tried to use more color in this one and pay more atention to the structor of the face. I think I magaed to the the eyes a little big though :/.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me46.JPG

[nottabird]

Here's one I drew as soon as I woke up yesterday morning, hence the hair and the bags under the eyes.

http://www.smallpunk.com/art/goodmorning_small.jpg

next I have to try one in painter

@oblio - i like it i like it

@jester - something seems wrong about the perspective on the top one. I think it's the nose that bothers me.

@hexal - i like the way you did the eyes alot. You need to use more variation in shading though (I have problems with that too) and the lips could use more definition. There's usually a dip in the middle of the top lip and the bottom lip is generally bigger than the top. I see improvement though, keep it up!

@gecko - lordy lordy, thanks for reminding me that I need to work on digital painting.

@ilex - wow, i love the rushed feel of the top one and you made an amazing background to go with an equally amazing self portrait for the bottom. The inspiration is much appreciated.

[faB]

I painted this one without my glasses on, I think it really helped me to focus on the whole rather than on the details. I only fixed some details at the end, but I couldnt fix all the messy strokes hehe :)

I tried to follow Andrew's advice to oblio about painting first the eyes then nose then mouth etc. I painted the eyesockets actually, like big shadows , the white of the eye came later.

It looks much more like me than my 1st one, as you can see on my homepage.

It's scary actual;ly. Putting my glasses back on I looked at some shapes and colours that I thought were 'odd' and I realized if I didnt see everything a little blurry I would probably not have painted those the same way. The eyes are just really obvious.. in my 1st attempt I painted them like the 'symbol' of the eye, 2 arcs and a ball inside. Without my glasses on I saw basically a patch of grey for the white of the eye and the rest was almost blending into the shadow of the eye sockets.

Lionel the eyes on the last one are pretty cool. You seem to have spent more time looking at them. I admire how you try a lot of different expressions. I thin kyo us hould spend more time looking then painting, trying to see shapes of same color or value and paint those, instead of painting eyes or nose. And squint your eyes a ton! hehe

http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021126.jpg

There is a larger version on my homepage.

Thx so much for the advice you share here Andrew.

[faB]

ZippZopp the last one you painted was quite good actually, you have catch the main values as for shadows and such, now you could try varying the color ? After my 2nd portrait I started to see more of the variation of color accross the face. In the 1st one I did (see on my homepage) I put the pink in there for 'style' because I saw it in other cool portraits, however now If I look in the mirror I can see the colour goes from red to orange to almost yellow in parts, more or less desaturated. I think it's due to the concentration of blood vessels under the skin, as well as fat and such.. :P also I would say like Lionel try a portrait by squinting your eyes, to focus on the whole rather than the details

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

hi everyone, this is my first major contribution, hopefully i can keep pace and put more up every day or so, given my internet stays with me :| and agpaoa doesnt back out and leave me hanging for a host ;) (thanks again justin)

i'd just like to say, this thread, let alone this site and the people here.. has been a major inspiration to me. i know this sounds sappy, cliche and the like, but hey, i got to give my thanks, conceptart is really a driving force.

As for my drawings..im currently really trying to work on fast, accurate proportion coupled with semi-realistic contrast and lighting rendering...i know i have a ways to go.

any C&C is much appreciated, comments too :)

since im going to try to give a consistent level of involvement here..i thought i might join in and give a try at some crituque and comments;

-ZippZopp...that is a good piece..the expression really pulls it off...lighting is good too. one thing tho...the hairline seems a little static.

-Keyth...deff. quick, but a modest peice still...your lighting on your pieces blows me away. very inspiring work...i want to try your approach at starting on black BG and working from dark to light....digitally i have no real procedure..next chance i get im going to search out a tut. i think i saw you did :D

-Miasmak...i like the second one...great warmth to it...i like your style

-Ilex....wow..those are stunning pieces..ive seen a few others of yours...but those two are really awesome...the top one is very bold and i totally love the flow of the whole thing. the second one has a really nice pallette, and the moon frame has some nice rendering

-Gecko....soopoib lighting...wish i could paint like that...one day i say one day....you can do it you can.

-hexal....i saw one others of yours a few days back i think...i can see some improvement....keep working at it....pay ettention to the individual lines....you seem to be making 'general' lines....try to make angles and shapes that are idividual to your face...identify features that 'stick out' on your face and draw it till it looks like it couldnt fit on anyone but yourself. btw...your proportions are there! keep up, your getting there. :)

-jester...looks good..the head a bit big on the top one? i know i know..the're fast...the knose huh....try less than more...i cant for the life of me do that little part inbetween the nostrils on an up angle....but hell wont stop me from trying.

-oblio...you look like charles manson/a wuss hulk haha...good dark sp ...i really like the 25th one..that one kicked hiney.

-Lionel....that one kicks ass...getting cheeky eh? lol....the eyes might be a 'tad' big but they are really well rendered...great job on the pose...next time put some fiercness into the eyes maybe. just a thought.

-nottabird....nice...deff. a morning pose. morning hair rules for sp's.

-FaB....good tips...i need to squint more :| you did a good job on the color shapes. im gonna try a shape one soon. btw ..where are your eyebrows?? did you forget them or are they there and just kinda insignificant? impressive painting none-the-less.

heres mine from the morning..i want to put up more but...is it acceptable to put up two-day old ones if i didnt get the chance to during that day?...i'll put em in...yell at me if im stepping on toes.

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/arsp112602_morning1.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/arsp112602_morning2.jpg

and yesteryesterdays....

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/arsp112402_1.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/arsp112402_2.jpg

cheers all

[Blackhawk]

Great work everyone. My tribute to Keyth. I never wear headphones while doing an SP so this one will be an extreme rarity. I did get to listen to music while doing an SP for a change though so I put on some Miles Davis. Best music ever :D

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod72.jpg

This is a tribute to Oblio. Congrats on the job bud, hope it works out well for you.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod73.jpg

I will comment tomorrow night. Passing out right now from hockey game I had earlier. Great job everyone and goodnight.

[Agpaoa]

I keep forgetting about this place. You folks sure comment and post a lot. You make me feel like a chump.

A general 'good work', folks. You're more dedicated to this than I am.



http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov27-2002.JPG



http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov27-2002b.JPG

[jester]

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-045.JPG

I slept badly tonight, only for about three and a half hours. Also it's an extreme bad hair day today since I have an appointment with my hairdresser for tomorrow (so expect a completely different Jester tomorrow! :D). I found the idea of drawing without glasses extremely appealing. As from the sloppy picture you can see that my eyesight is really bad - and that I worked really fast (less than 5 minutes). I couldn't even make out what I was drawing. Never mind, I think it's got some resemblance...

Jester


@Nold - yes, you're true with giving me that jaw hint. I don't know why but I tend to draw it really prominent. I'll check this for the future.

@Oblio - I like the lighter ones better, here you look like some kind of mass murderer... ;)

@Lionel - though it's unfinished you did a great job! Especially on the left eye. Fantastic!

@nottabird - perhaps we should found the bad hair day club? ;) My nose is permanently playing me tricks, yes you're right, it looks wrong.

@faB - thanks for giving that draw without glasses tip. As you can see I tried it today. Though I didn't see much at least it was a relaxed fun piece.

@wazzo - welcome! I tried to work out my nose less today (actually because I didn't see that much...) - seems to work generally. I'll try that again on my more worked out pieces, too. Never anyone has had any problems here on when the drawings were actually made. I am a Monday-Friday SPOD person myself - do what suits you!

@Blackhawk - arrghh another headphone piece again - and I haven't done that yet. :D I like the soft blending of the skin tones very much, also lips and nose look very 3d. A fine spod! Also your tribute to Oblio is very good. Don't expect me to post a topless one here... ;)

@Agpoa - very nice close up drawing! Very funny!

[faB]

woops dbl post :/

[faB]

jester the proportions definitely look better on that last one, also looks slightly less 'flat' than the prvious 2 drawings. Look at the darkest areas on the face (it's easier oif the lighting creates strong shadows). Try to indicate shadows stronger. Then look at the lightest place on your face and this will be the white of the paper, so everything that's between the lightest and the darkest will be more or less gray (or whichever colour your pencil is). And most important is all the while you do that always keep an eye for the whole face, always take another point of refernece, for example when I draw the inside corner of the left eye (left on the portrait), I see it is aligned vertically with the outside of my left nostril, etc etc

11am, 3 h sleep :)
http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021127.jpg

~faB.

[jester]

faB - thank you very much for the tips, I'll keep them in mind, though strong shadows seem to "disturb" my features that much that most friends and relatives see more likeness when I work with gentler lights. Seems like it was a three hour night for more people than just me. Wonder what's going on? Solar eruptions? ;)

Jester

[MindCandyMan]

Hey everybody I am in Texas and drawing everyday...I don't have access ot painter or a wacom or a scanner so they will all be in pen or pencil and will have to be scanned later but I am still doing self portraits. Gotta go but I have to say just a couple words.

Ilex that mirror one is freakin amazing.

Blackhawk that reddish and grey one is absolutely awesome.

Gecko...looks totally awesome.

ZippZopp - Absolutely amazing progress...amazing!!!

Jester - Your work ethic is killer...your stuff is looking so much better. Great work.

Oblio - I absolutely love the green one.

fab - Fabulous!

Hexal - I can see everything tightening up...push harder Do not stop now I see IMMENSE improvement. My wife saw your first one a while ago and hasn't seen any since this last one and she said, "Whoa he has gotten so much better!"

EVERYONE ELSE IS AWESOME...I'm sorry I can't comment on all...I had to scroll down really quick...you guys rock. Keep drawing

[Hermchen]

I reworked what I did the day before yesterday because I wasn't happy with the likeness.
This one's likeness is way better ^_^ This IS me.

http://home.arcor.de/hermchen/postingstuff/selfportraits/27.11.2002.jpg

compare it (right click, open in new window) (http://home.arcor.de/hermchen/postingstuff/selfportraits/25.11.2002.jpg)

Both presketched in Painter and rendered in Photoshop.

Jester It's funny what you say about b/w fotos because I actually work on b/w fotos these times :)
Why did you step back from color? Don't U think your good enough for values? Look at how MindCandy improved! Beat him!!! :fight:

Blackhawk The sex in Miles Davis' music flew directly into your painting! Full reds. :cool: Love it

Nice work everyone else, keep it up!

[daarken]

hey guys, i have been out of it for the past week. herm and blackhawk, those are freakin awesome! great work guys.

11-27
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-27.jpg

11-25
http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-25.jpg

haha, and um...this is a quick portrait of my gorilla...
http://www.daarken.com/boards/gorilla.jpg

[Oblio]

thx guys/gals
i'll comment on you tomorrow. k?


http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/27nov.jpg

Oblio

[Lionel]

faB: I wish I painted more in terms of shapes and could stop my self focusing in on details. You are looking tired

Blackhawk: You stuff is comming on in leaps and bounds :)

nottabird: Looke good thou I tink you mouth is a little low :)

wazzo: Maby I will do a fearce one soon :) nice pencil drawings. Try to loo carfully at the shap of features like the eye.

Agpaoa: Thouse are nice and blod

jester: Yu pencils storkes are looking much more confident. Try looking carefully at the bottom of your nose as it seems a little wrong

Hermchen: Seems to be an imporvement though I think the eyes are still a little small

Oblio: Your drawings seem a lot more confident.

daarken: Really strong work

I am really out of time so painted this in a really hurry sorry if it is a little crap :/. Real life getting in the way.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me47.JPG

[mime]

http://erhnam.free.fr/spod10.jpg

Lionel : why dont you try other colors, maybe less variation ... i know variation in color is good, but you always have tons of colors in your SP, and the variations are not always subtle, maybe you should try to vary your palette a bit more and do experiments, a pastel SP, a very saturated SP, a warm SP, a cold SP ... and i think you shouldnt paint on white canvas, but lay down a general wash first, some middle value, it helps finding colors ...

Daarken : cute gorilla

Fab : i really like your SPs, but yes you look really really tired. and in fact you kinda looks like one of the prisonners in the OZ tv serie on HBO (this serie rocks everything)

jester : you are really improving, like others said, more volume in this one

blackhawk : this second one is really good, i like the simplicity and yet the quality ... nice background you used

cya tomorrow everyone :)

[Hexal]

Thanks mind!
I haven;t gotten time the last couple days to do one, but hopefully i can do one tomrrow.

[Agpaoa]

one more for the road...

kiss me



http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov27-2002c.JPG


I like that one of Lionel's, actually. It is obvious that he took the purple pill.

[faB]

Lionel the last one is one of your better ones actually imho, I noticed the hair you seem to have painted it more like a mass this time

btw I',m not sure shapes is the way to go I guess there are not hard and fast rules, I suppose to the extreme drawing just shapes of colour /vvalue would be like doing the job of a camera.

My latest s-p remind me of those paint kits were you had a picture with numbers and shapes and had the colours already done and fill it in, each number corresponding to a color, so I mnot that pleased with them actually :)

When I tried to do a portrait before simply by drawing the features, I failed many times, thiese are my best self portraits yet. So I assume maybe I needed a good exercise of value, since I rarely done any before I suppose thjese last s-p helped me to focus on areas of different values rather than lines

The next ones ill try good ol' pencils and put the lines were they seem to suggest those shapes best It should be interesting.

oblio I like the stare that comes out of all your sps, keep it up

mime also like the eyes in your picture

[retro002]

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst097.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst098.jpg

http://free.pages.at/retro002/portrait_selbst099.jpg

[Blackhawk]

Tonight I was kind of timid. I didn't really know how to approach this one after awhile. Everything was just spontaneous and then I started to get bogged down in the rendering and spots starting losing it, so I stopped. If anyone has any ideas on how I could have taken this one further, let me know.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod74.jpg

Agapoa - Great rendering style. It has a very positive vibe to it. I always smile when I see your SP's.

Jester - Great work. You should do like me and just buzz the hair all together. Although I shouldn't say much now that I'm growing my hair out so I have something more interesting on the top of my head. I hate taking care of it though :D

Fab - Great job on this, turned out very well.

Mind - Thanks bud.

Herm - Thanks :) This SP is awesome, the rendering of it is superb. Nose seemed like it gave you a problem, but everything else is great. I almost lost my jaw on this one :D

Daarken - That top one is primo man. I definitely like the strong lines pulling around on the form. Awesome job and welcome back man. I was wondering where you ran off to.

Oblio - The deep stare. When are you going to do that charcoal piece you promised me :D

Lionel - You did wonderful eyes on this one. Keep working at it, I definitely like this one.

Mime - You did wonderful eyes on this one too. Mouth seems off-angle from the rest of the face though. Nice rendering style though. The smooth eye really draws in the attention from the rest of the cross-hatched face and really pops it. Great job.

Retro - Great job on these bud. The 3rd one is fantastic, a lot of energy coming from these. How are things going?

Have a Happy Thanksgiving to those in here in the states, stuff yourself silly tomorrow, I know I will :D Goodnight everyone.

[ZippZopp]

wow! fantastic stuff everyone. i'm at home for the next few days with no scanner, or computer to do any art on, only this cheap laptop which barely connects to the net. i'll be back in the swing in a few days


Lionel: nice variation in the expression. i reallly dig this one

retro: very cool style you have, nice and loose, i like this style from you

blackhawk: great stuff as usual! keep it up

daarken: man i love this portrait. something about it is fantastic! awesome job

hermchen: no crits, that is a really realy great portrait! well done

fab: nice portraits, color is handled very well in them. great job

wazzo: great first contribution. they look excellent, keep it up, i'm lookin forward to seeing some good stuff from you

[Duracel]

Blackhawk - great improvement the last portraits!!

@all others - :)


Here is me again:

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/quicksketches/self20-expressions-a3m.jpg

3minutes per picture - everyone 5-6cm high - sketched with an flat-hold 6Bpencil

[jester]

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-046.JPG

Felt like blue today ;). Slept badly again but managed to get half an hour sleep in the afternoon, then started drawing and this is what came out of it. Quite satisfied but still lots of weak points.

Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans (and others, too, if they are celebrating). :D

Jester


@faB - Today I set a rather strong light with almost no additional light (dimmed very low), and used more guidelines again. Yours shows your sleepiness very well.

@MindCandyMan - nice to see you dropping by, even though you're away from home. My work ethic is legendary. :D

@Hermchen - you managed to improve an already good portrait. I'm impressed. I didn't really step back from colour, it's just that I grab whichever tool I feel comfortable with right at the moment I decide to begin a new spod. But you and faB got me on the road back from (out)lines to values and shapes again. That's why this thread is so valuable to me.

@daarken - the first one is amaaaaazing! The second one is ok (though I suggest to work more on the hair even in fast scribbles). Your gorilla seem to be a cute guy, but why leave him unfinished?

@Oblio - that was a really fast one, eh? When do you start the new job?

@Lionel - tried a different view from below today which seems to make drawing my nose easier but gives me a double chin ;) Your's reminds me to try expressions again. Dont't think this crap. And for once the mouth isn't too small ;)

@mime - nice scratched effect. Can it be that the alignment of the mouth/chin area is a bit off compared to the brow/eyes/nose plane?

@Agpoa - I like how you manage to achive "roundness" and 3d landscapes on your face. The highlights are a bit too much on the "plastic" side for my taste.

@retro - hey, different angles! :) Very confident lines. I like the last one best.

@Blackhawk - how about applying a "crackling" filter? Looks like crackling plaster anyway and could improve this as a painting. Proportions and lights/shadows seem ok, so I wouldn't change or modify anything here. As for your hair tip... I'm currently looking for a new job as well as checking whether I can start my own business of a marketing-service... wouldn't help me to get a job or clients, I fear...

@Duracel - another one reminding me of trying expressions again. When I see what you're doing here I wonder why you handed it this pot-plant portfolio... this stuff is way better!

[Duracel]

@jester .. perhaps youre right .. i dont know ...
btw, imho your best one ... just a little bit bluish :D ;)


This time i tried to get different lightsituations. ;)
(desk lamp moving - yeah! :D)

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/quicksketches/self20-light-a3m.jpg

Well, not as expressive like the other ones. ;)

[mime]

I'm really in a hurry , thats why i did a really speed spod (15 mins) wich turned out maybe one of the best i did .... at least in terms of proportions and shapes ...

i will try to comment later tonight, but thanxs everyone for the comments, and keep drawing :)

http://erhnam.free.fr/spod11.JPG

[nottabird]

I tried painting the last sp i posted to get painter classic and tablet practice and here's the result. I hate the hair and I'm really clueless as to how to fix it. I'm also just reading up about color theory so I don't really know anything about it, I'm just picking colors that look right so any help at all is much appreciated. I also think I might have relied on the water tool too much but I'll stop talking now.


http://www.smallpunk.com/art/goodmorning_small_painted.jpg

[faB]

Umpf! jester you can be satisfiied the differnece between this and your previous portraits is amazing!Good job!

[faB]

notabird one good book I was recommened for color theory is "the Art of Color" from Johannes Itten. There is a long and a short version.. grab the short version, the long one has a lot more chit chat and I was told is writtens sometimes in a rather cryptic language, while the short version contains just the essential of Itten's theory, and a lot of example colour plates

as for sp I'd say try to get the color you see. generally you ll want to avoid using completely desaturated color, as you did on the left side eyebrow. generally it is said there is rarely any pure black or white in life.. most colours are desaturated to some extent, and if you have to use a real real dark it is best to use a very dark colour than pure black.

I suppose for a sp a important color theory is that of the warm /cold colors. Most incandescent lights are warm, because they 'burn', while neon lights tend to be 'cold'. When you havea warm light it tends to create cold shadows. this means the shadows tend to have less red/yellow/orange in it and more blue or green. You can not directly mix blue in your shadows, and you can not find a variant of the pink of the skin in the blue spectrum, but you can take your warm color, and desaturate it generally it will give a colder version of it, because it will move towards the grey, i.e. absence of colour. The danger I have found in my last sps is if you desaturate too much your shadows become gray instead of coloured.. I also noticed in some potraits from old painters the colour is actually more saturated when it is darkened, for example the red of the lips in the darkest area is more saturated than the highlight of the lip where it is more 'rose'

these are the basics I dont think you need more than that for a sp, practice practice. you ll gt better with each sp:)

[nottabird]

Thank you very much faB, I was hoping for an explanation on warm/cold colors and shadows because i always hear that stuff being thrown around in critiques. Also, I just put "The Art of Color" on hold at the library so I'm looking forward to reading through that. Thanks again.

[Oblio]

not long ago i was very greatful if someone will draw me something. anything... since i loved art so much and i couldn't do any.
Few times some people tried to make me a portrait - most of the time it went bad - but this was such an honnor for me.
I take a good pleasure now to make SP's and also to draw.. anything. But I haven't forgot the joy I used to have when someone dedicates me a drawing. It happened few times here and it wasn an imense pleasure. THANK YOU ALL>

This goes to Blackhawck - here you go friend.. chacoal (i don't like it too much - so messy. I prefere pencil but i'll keep working it too)

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/28nov2.jpg

Jes-already started (i'm all my way up into a design document for a GBA game). BTW _ great SP. See? It's comming...
mime - uu.... i'll have to try this approach too.

notabird - hmm.. yours lacks depth - it seems flat and requires some contrast I think. The space between eyes and eyebrows (more depth), under the nose, the upper lip... there is something that doesn't fit. MORE! (the only way to get better)
Duracel - i'll have to try more on one page - anyway.. you can try a more detailed one too ;)

Oblio

[Agpaoa]

Whee. Comments.

Positive vibes? Roundness? Hoof. I don't know what I'm doing right, but thanks. Just drawing what I see. I have a roly poly head and a shiny face, I guess.

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov28-2002.JPG

[Lionel]

mime: I always go a bit over the top with color :) I just enjoy playng around with it :)

faB: I definatly think it helps to think in tems of mass. It is impossible to get a likeness without getting the masses right

retro002: You have a real eye for lines. I would be interested to see how you go about drawing the whole figure

Blackhawk: Do I see you using the rake :)

jester: wow a lot of improvement with that last one

Duracel: Looks like a rally good exercise

nottabird: With colors just play around and find what works for you :). You need to try out stuff that you read about or you will never rember it

Oblio: That is a really good charcol sketch. Mine always deteriate into grey mush

Agpaoa: Lol love the expression

Well my girlfriend says I never smile so here is one to prove her wrong. I sacrafice my likeness as I was having fun doing a silly sp
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me48.JPG

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/arsp271102.jpg

-sorry aggy for the hassle :ranting:

todays is in the werx.
im attempting one in painter..if it gets posted, nobody knows

-Lionel...great painting again...i think someone said it best earlier..you need to try a different pallette...im not saying your sp's arent good, there fantasmooassmatic...just a change would be interesting.

-agpaoa....another smackable one. :bash:
i know how cynical you think i am...but your plastic, how can you emote? :dead:

-oblio...greatness is emerging...i followed some of your threads back...your improvements are phenominal (are your powers transmittable?)

-nottabird....for a first time paint...your well on your way. practice ::smacks self:: practice

-mime...i like the hair...simple and undefined, but the lighting shows thru for such a quick one.

-duracel...impressive...for the time that is. thats a good lesson i should be doing.

-jester....this newest one is showing excellent signs accuracy. keep it up. one thing...lip reflections are usually a combination of sutle and contrasty...its one thing im really paying attention too..i think it came out better than usual on my newest. yours too.

-blackhawk...heh..yeah...altho nowhere close to some of you other sp's...im still in awe of youe skill. is that the nervous pen from painter?

alrighty, now for todays :ep:

[faB]

Lionel wow, definitely better. really nice reflected light on the right side cheek, watch for the grays, keep it up!

oblio nice one, there;'s some real expression in your sp's especially coming from the eyes. It has a little graphic novel style to it

Duracel great study btw

[Duracel]

@agpaoa ... nice ones - great expression in your last few ones ... but your paintstyle seems a bit blurry to me .. perhaps try harder brushes/higher opacity?

@mime ... finish it! :)

@nottabird Well, im interested what you'll paint, if you're no longer fighting with the brushtools. ;) And the hair doesnt look as bad, imho.

@oblio .. your paintstyle looks very dynamic in the last one - i like it. :)

@Lionel - one of your best - imho - but o dont like the chosen mimic. ;)

@wazzo - i like those lines - great style - especially the hair is damn good drawn


http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/drawings/self22small.jpg

20Minutes
im not really happy with it .. but the time is ok. ;)

PS: thx for all compliments for my study ones
i like those expressions too ... perhaps this is the reason i dont like the new one much. ;)

[Duracel]

some more ...

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/quicksketches/self23.jpg

dont know how long i needed

Well, the lower one is damn bad :( .. it looks like i have to puke ...

[miasmak]

features only
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sbig-5s.jpg
sort of topless
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sbig-6s.jpg
all my painter attemps are junk at the moment. Its as if the analog spirit is muting my computer capabilities. I will not bore you with the tedious failed experiments but here is the best of the lot, you can see why I didn't post the others ...
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/spod32s.jpg
comments later(you've heard that one before ,,,)

[Blackhawk]

Whew, what a day. Tons of cooking and tons of eating :D Anyone know where Andrew has been the last few days? I've been missing his work tremendously.

Excuse this one, it became loopy with the feature placement, I kept shuffling my face side to side, I'm too tired to consistently hold any type of pose for a long period of time :)
http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod75.jpg

I'm going to comment on only a few tonight, I had 3 hours of sleep last night. I think my art is turning me into an insomniac. All I do anymore is draw and stay up to ridiculous times in the morning. I'm going to die young from this, I'm telling ya.

Zipp - Thanks

Jester - lol, yeah, it's less mess though, that's why I kept buzzing mine. Plus I have a pretty decent shaped head, so there were no nobs or dips like I've seen on some people that shave their head. It's like I was born with a skull for this kind of cut :D Excellent job on this one.

Duracel - Your a madman, great work, you really kept yourself busy today didn't you :D

mime - Looks solid, nose may be a bit off, but very well executed.

nottabird - listen to fab, he gave some excellent advice. Just keep working daily, the more you do, the better you get :)

Oblio - Thank you man. I'm definitely glad you did this. I thought you did an excellent job on it. I say more now :D

Aga - Good job on this. The render is coming through fuzzy though, you could probably benefit from some sharper areas on the piece. Keep it up :)

Lionel - Yes, first time too. I want to find something looser to mess around with, I'm sick of always trying to be so tight on my SP's, I feel like it's strangling me sometimes when I do these, so I wanted to just go wild with it for once. This is your best so far. The values and colors are really shining through and popping the form. Mucho improvement.

Wazzo - Thanks :) Yeah, that was the nervous pen, I thought it was fun to mess around with. Watch out on the form of the nose and the feature placement. Some of your features, like the eyes, are out of alignment. Keep it up man.

Mias - Phenomenal job on the first two. The second one is an excellent rendering. I really like these two, your definitely coming along.

[daarken]

trying out more andrew techniques. 3:30 am...time for night night

http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-28.jpg

[miasmak]

duracel, good idea all these little quick heads, hope you don't mind if I give it a try too. Looks like you are going for the 7 dwarfs there, I see happy, dopey, sleepy, lots of grumpies

jester, good progress, I can even see you had a haircut :)

mime, didn't have time to think so you drew everything in the right place, huh. looks good

nottabird, the colour that only appears in the lips bothers me a bit

faB, thanks for the warm colour, cold colour info.

oblio, messy or not, it's looking good

agpaoa, good to see another view of the roly poly head and shiney face :D who says we know what we are doing

lionel, there is a cool 3Dness appearing in this one. I think it is the way you are layering the colours on especially the nose and cheeks. The expression is creeeepy.

wazzo, like your mark some of the lines could be a bit more varied though for my taste

blackhawk, your consistent presence is inspiring

daarken, I like this one alot! The ear seems a bit small to me.

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

ok, well...i did warn you ...
http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/port1awl.JPG
altho i look entirely idiotic and the word 'foof' comes to mind...let it be known that in ways i am satisfied with some aspects of this. firstly, it was my first digital portrait and i was basically learning the tools as i painted, secondly the lighting and rendering arent half bad...buuut..they eyes are too flat, the expression is..well...um...yeah. :mumble:

this is what happens when you stay up too late working on things that should have been deleted hours ago.
http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/port1woh.JPG

i think i need more refrence works.
to say the least.

anyways, not a terrible start.
crit?


-daarken...good $h** ...i wanna be scary n stuff!...im scary right?...ok maybe its time to study some droid sp's.

-blackhawk...yeah i think we all miss andrews posts...bah what am i saying i havnt even really studied his old stuff....but it is a daily inspiration to see his creative genuis at work. yours too. ...whats that you say? features out of place? hmmm....next time NEXT TIME...sigh.

-miasmak.....your digital one shows promise! seriously...dont be so hard on yourself...when you paint purple pics of yourself that look like you just saw santa touching one of his elves and got turned on...then you can worry. ...thaaat aside, i kinda like your digital one...its got some cool flow to it. thanks for the crit last time round...i am going to try a loose one tomorrow i think.

night all. its been a long day hanging out with my friend wacom.

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

ok, well...i did warn you ...
http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/port1awl.JPG
altho i look entirely idiotic and the word 'foof' comes to mind...let it be known that in ways i am satisfied with some aspects of this. firstly, it was my first digital portrait and i was basically learning the tools as i painted, secondly the lighting and rendering arent half bad...buuut..they eyes are too flat, the expression is..well...um...yeah. :mumble:

this is what happens when you stay up too late working on things that should have been deleted hours ago.
http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/port1woh.JPG

i think i need more refrence works.
to say the least.

anyways, not a terrible start.
crit?


-daarken...good $h** ...i wanna be scary n stuff!...im scary right?...ok maybe its time to study some droid sp's.

-blackhawk...yeah i think we all miss andrews posts...bah what am i saying i havnt even really studied his old stuff....but it is a daily inspiration to see his creative genuis at work. yours too. ...whats that you say? features out of place? hmmm....next time NEXT TIME...sigh.

-miasmak.....your digital one shows promise! seriously...dont be so hard on yourself...when you paint purple pics of yourself that look like you just saw santa touching one of his elves and got turned on...then you can worry. ...thaaat aside, i kinda like your digital one...its got some cool flow to it. thanks for the crit last time round...i am going to try a loose one tomorrow i think.

night all. its been a long day hanging out with my friend wacom.

[jester]

http://www.jester.de/gallery/sketch/spod-047.JPG

Thank you all for commenting on my last one. I'm not as satisfied with today's - though it's not too bad. But I hurried it up because I will go to a young business entrepreneur's (vocabulary?) meeting to find out whether my marketing-services will be needed (of which I'm quite sure) and be paid for (that's the important question!). So you can imagine that I'm quite nervous already. Have a nice weekend and cu on Monday! :)

Jester


@Duracel - your drawings seem to be a really good exercise - I'll try that soon. Which size are your little portraits (app. height)? I found that it's easier to do fast ones (regarding your 20 minute piece) if you really set light with strong contrasts.

@mime - the nose/mouth alignment seems to be off again. Otherwise: very good for a 15 minute quick one!

@Oblio - grim look but good! :) Already started the new job, wow, that's fast! What's GBA?

@Lionel - I guess your girlfriend complains that you're never laughing on your spods, not not laughing at all, eh? Though that smile is a bit, erm, forced, it made me smile! I'd say,, try that again!

@wazzo - looks like you had that mirror right on your lap, weird angle, really! Yes, I think it's very rewarding if you've got the lip reflections right. Most people look at the eyes first, then at the lips. The general shape of the head is third and the rest they only realize when something is wrong.

@miasmak - can it be that you always start your portraits with "features"? Then try that "start with an ellipse" approach for once. I like that pose when you look over your shoulder. Did you draw this from a photo or with a mirror? Thanks for your comment! :)

@wazzo - your left nostril looks totally weird. But purple pills seem to be fun! :D

[daarken]

wazzo: you can do it! you can be evil! heh

mia: fixed my ear, thanks!!

[miasmak]

wazzo, I'll have some of those purple pills too thank you, I'm sure it will make me feel better about my painter progress at the moment, certainly made you feel/look good :P

jester, all self portraits are 100% mirror. I vary my approach, somedays I start with the features, other days I start with the general shape.

[Hexal]

Heres mine for today abotu an hour. definitly the best becuase i got a hold of a digital camera and to like five good pics to draw from.

Nov 29
http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port32.jpg

[miasmak]

@wazzo, the pill helped (I think)

@jester, the shadows around the lips and chin are looking good. the shadow on the forehead has a dark line at it's edge which messes up the volume effect.

@daarken, ear looks much better now

@hexal, proportions on this one are much better. Now perhaps you can look at using a sharp light source and looking at the dark and light areas

http://www.jsim.com/cg/spod33-3ss.JPG

[Oblio]

I'm not working hard enough. Any pills for that?

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/29nov.jpg

I miss Andrew

http://members.fortunecity.com/afantana/29nov2.jpg

Jester - GBA - GameBoy Advance. Best of luck with the business! Be cool - that's the way in meetings :)
mia - mind those proportions!!! Axes, symetry... try a little more. It's not hard.. just focus and put more logic into it - your eyes can fool you but your mind should fix that. K?
hexal - you are improving a LOT! Keep going. It might help to buy a spotlight and play with it - strong lighting will reveal the form better (and it will reduce the values)
wazzo - man.. that's a groovie SP. (quit drinking for a while ok? :D look at keyth - he's not around us anymore - and in his last portrait he was looking kind of skeleton :p
Darken- that's akick ass. How are you btw?
Blackhawck - i'll be honored if i can make another one for you. Just say the word!

Oblio

[Agpaoa]

Blurry this, blurry that

I think I'll try a new technique soon.

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov29-2002.JPG

[faB]

jester still improving, the right eye is on the same horizpntal line as the left one, and thus seem a bit out of place because the face is slightly tilted.

Earlier today I discarded a painting where I did another typical error : both eyes were of the same width although my face was seen 3/4. SinceI begin with the eyes then build aroound it the whole face was out of proportion. Which reminded me about Sargeant's notes about getting the basic shapes right and everything then fall into place.

miasmak I like that cyan/green you have used but on the skin it doesnt blend too well, being close to complementary of the pink color, if you try something blue you'll more of the cold/warm contrast (in case you meant to use the green for the shadows). The face is a little flat. Something you might try is to start with a middle gray background, it will help to judge the colours. Then pick a dark colour and paint in the darkest areas. Pick a light colour and paint in the lightest areas. Try to start with the eyes/nose area though as Andrew recommended it works great. It is possible to have a great likeness even with just 3 colours, it 's the proportions of each feature relative to the others that is very important. To get the right proportions you need to take a good look, actually I'd say to make the portrait its 95 pct looking and 5 pct painting :)

ballpen
http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/paper/autoportrait-20021129-ballp.gif

[daarken]

oblio: hah, i like the second one. i am doing well, thanks!

tonight i did an oil lift off sp. i need a new digital cam :(

http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/11-29.jpg

[Grooveholmes]

woooooooooo... ver' nice. INDEED.

I shall be contributing again soon! promise.

[cotron]

daarken, that's fuckin dope. very intense, reminds me of da vinci/michelangelo's studies. nice one.

[Mr.Brian]

A traditional one I did a while ago
http://members.shaw.ca/brianyee/SP/self58.jpg

Daarken: Oil lifting? Interesting, will have to look up info on that

[daarken]

mr brian: its easy, all you do is use linseed oil as a medium with the oil paint and coat a white canvas with the oil paint/linseed oil mixture. then you just rub off the paint for lighter parts. to get darker areas you just use less linseed oil with the oil paint. q tips are good to use for smaller areas.

cotron: haha, thanks! we just learned how to do this in my painting class, and its a lot of fun.

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

thanks everyone for the comments...and yeah, if ive learned one thing, its that drugs are bad.
as you can see, the effects arent wearing off too fast.

this one was fun to do, i could have gone further, but it took enough time alread.

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/arin/arsp291102_1.JPG

-oblio....you work at GBA? what position are you in? that second one is hella cool....got some power (and coldness) to it.

-agpaoa....if you show me how to use the sharp chalk brush, i will upload more pics and hassle you more frquently. its win win. the couch beckons.

-faB....that is sweet! i love simple pen sketches....great rendering and crosshatching....it love to see a piece with alot of time put into it from you.

-daarken....are those boobs? :eek: lol...jfwy...eeeyah i tried for scary but it came out spooky. its in me somewhere tho, got to listen to some venetian snares while working

-Mr Brian....great style. i want to try some 'chunky' sp's....one day ONE DAY.


adios all..been a long day again.

[Blackhawk]

I had a lot of trouble with this one tonight. I kept screwing up the eye placement. I need to rethink how I work these portraits, my current method doesn't feel like it's working anymore for me.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod76.jpg

Only a few comments tonight, sorry to those of you I can't get too beforehand. It's 4:30 am here and my insomnia is finally wearing off.

Daarken - In-cre-di-ble!! The last oil one is amazing. I liked it so much I wanted to try it out for my own, but I don't have any oils or money to buy oils :( Your doing awesome man, that week off from SP's hasn't slowed you down a bit.

Hexal - Welcome back bud. Proportions look much much better in this. Now look at the lips, be careful of how you render them. Sometimes it's much better to suggest the form is there instead of actually doing a hard outline. If you were to look at your lips, notice that where they meet will usually be a dark, thick line, but the top and bottom, depending on if you use values within the lip or not, can easily be lightly suggested that they are there. Keep working at it bud, your slowly getting there, keep on pushing.

Oblio - Thanks man. That second is very sweet. You have my permission to do another any time you want :D I saved the charcoal one you did for me, you definitely did a nice job on it. I think you were the first to do an SP for me. Thanks.

Wazzo - lol, I like the wonky eyeball SP. I cracked up when I saw it. Be careful of the form on your nose.

Aga - Nice work man.

Mia - Thanks. I appreciated Andrew's work ethic in regards to doing these SP's everynight, so I made a commitment to myself to do these everynight, for as long as is humanly possible :D I almost feel like I'm cheating myself sometimes if I even entertain the thought of skipping a night.

Onto your SP, nice job, you skewed the face though. If you need to, setup some construction lines atleast to establish the axis of the face features. I personally don't use them much, but when I'm really running into a problem on an SP I use it.

Jester - Great job on this man. I've really liked the solidity you've had on your SP's the last week. Very well done.

Mr. Brian - Nice job. Is this oil or acrylic?

Fab - You did a great job on this pen sketch. Very well rendered.

Have a great Saturday everyone.

[redon634]

Well - I just joined here, so I guess I'm getting in at the tail end of this thread. Done in ZBrush -

http://www.wetcanvas.com/web/sites/16031/pollockmtncg/images/art/spod1128.jpg

jester - you have a nice portrait going here - if you work on the perspective on the left side of the face, it will all really come together
hexal - if you use less sharp edges it will look more "real", but maybe that's not what you're going for. I like it the way it is, actually.
daarken - Rub out paintings are always fun if the fumes don't get to you ( I use turps to move the paint around rather than oil, so I can paint over it)
It keeps telling me my message is too long?

[Mr.Brian]

wazzo, Blackhawk: Thanks, it is in acrylics. :)

[faB]

had problem with eyes, and the noseis too long, it became really obvious when I zoomed out the picture but too late :/
colours were warmer.. it seems like laying down the correct color for the first few shapes is as important as the proportions, it seems I have judged all the colors from then on relative to the first onesI chose , and everything ended up 'colder'

tried Oil Pastel in Painter 7

http://web.wanadoo.be/def46/img-posts/painter/autoportrait-20021130.jpg
~faB.

[Agpaoa]

a quickie before going out

http://www3.telus.net/agpaoa/images/temp/nov30-2002.JPG