DSG 292: Vehicle: High speed Helicopter

[dsg bot]

Today's topic is: Vehicle: High speed Helicopter

[Vaevictis Asmadi]

guhh...tired of machines..

[Jebus]

Here's mine, it's a bit sloppy I know but if anyone wants to color it please do so. Designed with a Hind in mind.

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/Helijet.jpg

[OLSEN]

Cool Heli Jebus, i love the brutal look of the Hind. As you can see i was inspired by it too.

http://medlem.spray.se/ksmolsen/image/heli.jpg

[SecondChance]

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rfriet/peppo/images/papa_speedycopter.jpg
SORRY: THIS IMAGE IS NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL 1-1-04 (datatraffic of my homepage reached the montly maximum)

Perhaps to much a plane with rotor-wings.

Question:
How do you draw rotating wings convincingly?
(colorpencils, app. 90 min.)

[nBT]

http://www.mattijsart.com/dsg/dsg292speedheli.jpg
slowly im getting this drawing shading thing. OC and unsharp mask in ps. 300% .5 radius eh about 45 mins. anyone want the wpe file?
speedy helis dont exist. but ist fun to do. aerodynamics might be the best way to get ya a speedy one. and light material use. and put a kid in it. tell him its a video game :)

[SecondChance]

Oops ... there is something seriously wrong with my "SpeedyCopter". Can you see this?

Edit:
Velo + Niq: - you're both right!! I think this heli will crash. Hopefully the pilot can unknot his legs soon enough.

dfacto - very sophisticated ... the heli you made !! Good rendering too.

[Jane Radstrom]

Here is a really interesting page about how Helicopters work. I found the third page of this especially useful.

www.howstuffworks.com/helicopter1.htm

SecondChance - I think your rotor wings are drawn very nicely for movement, except the far back one appears to be rotating in the wrong direction! Also, after reading that article I know that you need counter-thrust so the plane doesn't rotate with the blades. I dont really see any there. :)

[niq3d]

I think I see what you mean! I believe rotor blades work better when they all move in the same direction! (at least when they are connected to the same hub)

perhaps they are for decorative purposes only

Giggles aside, I do like your drawing, I might use a similar angle for mine (if I get around to finishing up what I'm doing in time!)

Niq

[niq3d]

actualy on second glance there isn't enough room for the pilot's legs, I find it helpful to consider the pilot/drivers' position before anything else when doing vehicle concepts. (this could be just a few scribbled ovals to get an idea of the pilots size/posture) This helps me to develop an idea of scale for the vehicle as a whole.

Hope this helps

Niq

[dfacto]

I already have one of those, hehe, gotta finish it up though.

[Jane Radstrom]

http://www.velondra.com/images/gallery/292speedheli.jpg

[NoUseFrAName]

http://www.geocities.com/nousefraname/ChopperDSG.txt
Designed it after an F1....kinda strange, but I think it looks like it'd be fast.

-Rob

[SecondChance]

Velo - nice work!! The bend tail, roundish shape and colors makes me think of an insect. Is that your inspiration? You draw the rotor-wings clever. Nobody can tell how (- many wings & rotation direction).

[Xpressions]

Hi folks!

Here be my hi-speed 'copter. Inspired by the Kaman K-Max and the Sikorsky S-72.

http://www.auner.net/images/remora.jpg

Nice entires so far guys. My personal fav is Velo's insectocopter. :D
Really does look insectoid.

Regards, Dave :evilbat:

[dfacto]

Here's my entry for today. Its actually an autogyro, but what the hey.

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/0903/dfacto/gyro2-2_copy.jpg

[Cocofuppa]

Not done a dsg for ages, but heres a little 5min one for today, i just wanted to do a kind of streamlined heli, with all the sticky-out bits tucked into the helicopter, like the wheels on a plane :D

http://www.mi7shogun.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/websitesketches/DSG%20292.jpg

[plaf]

http://www.skjoldbroder.dk/gfx/24bit/fastheli.jpg


dfacto: wow.. nice rendering dude.
olsen: cool! =) looks like a vicious bastard who'd just as soon jump you as rip a hole through your chest.
velo : i like it. kinda quirky, it has personality

good stuff people! :)



all the best.

[Snowball]

Well people amazing posts so far! Here is mine, I am really proud of it, except for the tail end, I had trouble visualizing it in proportion! I got my ideas from the awesome Comanche.
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Snowball/Art/StealthHeli.jpg
Velo: I have to agree very insectiod, very nice!
Olsen: I am really enjoying your style!
Great work all around!!!!!:D

[Miau]

hiho
cool works as usual :)
plaf this one looks reaally fast

here's mine ... arg i have to draw bigger!!
the onion is supposed to be fire ... hm
http://miau.geekhost.info/images/sketches,speed/dsg292_l.jpg

[Zram]

Ha ha lots of great stuff so far, here's my piece...OC with mouse.. yuck. I need to do more pencil drawing, but I'm so lazy about scanning...

zram

http://olecram.members.easyspace.com/jpg/HiSpds.jpg

[S.C. Watson]

Plaf: I **LOVE** yours!
dfacto: Really cool design. Nicely done.

[iwit]

http://members.lycos.nl/iwit/dsg/292.jpg

[dfacto]

iwit, is that your DSG or Leonardo Davinci's?

Lol, just kidding.

nice job everyone.

[josephrey]

this piece is SO bad ass. what more can i say?


ha.



http://josephrey.i8.com/images/heli.jpg

[mog]

Mine is a bit inspired from dfacto's, and Command & conquer nostalgy :) got kinda stuck when i was trying to add more detail. maybe it's time for me to buy a wacom :rolleyes:

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/mog/heli2.jpg

*update*

spent an hour or two polishing it. :beer:

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/mog/heli3.jpg

[OLSEN]

plaf and snowball, thanks for the kind words. I think yours are cool too.
Heres another one:

http://medlem.spray.se/ksmolsen/image/Heli2.JPG

Great work all. :)

[Hunger_Artist]

nice stuff today

defacto- that is an interesting design


this one will go fast, but i dont know where
http://members.tripod.com/carlbeu/6b3b6ff0.jpg

[sog_1]

http://sogsstuff.250free.com/heli.jpg

[oDD]

i could try to find a decent sheet of paper but i know i forgot to buy decnt pencils so i didn't bother. anyway this was very quick.

http://www.sport.wroclaw.pl/~sport005/odd/0604-helicopters.jpg

[dfacto]

Quick speedpaint, after I drew a fun concept.

great work Odd, love the sketches.

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/0903/dfacto/helicopter_copy.jpg

[Jordanimation]

hey all!

My first post on conceptart, and first DSG. Some cool stuff today. Here's mine, it's just a quicky....and I gotta work on perspective. Enjoy!

p.s. this forum rocks:D so do helicopters!

http://jordanimation.50megs.com/Copter.jpg

[Timeleech]

Originally posted by Vaevictis Asmadi
guhh...tired of machines..

Agreed. I intended to join th DSG, but I'll wait until the machines are done taking over, and are lying in a rusting heap. This is to be taken more as an indication of my ineptitude with/disinclination to draw machines than mere whining.

Olsen, miau, sog1 and oDD; ye be me faves.

[stacy]

nonono this cant be closed!!!! im almost done with my drawinggggggggg
its not 12:59 anyways so why does it say its closed? can i still post?

[MadSun]

Am I too late?
Helicopters are fun because there are so many ways they can be designed. This is an old sketch Just fixed up in PS.(IMG)http://madsenink.com/helicopter.jpg(/IMG)

[MadSun]

Or this...
http://madsenink.com/helicopter.jpg

[S.C. Watson]

http://www.in-sight.net/Sketches/292-helicopter.gif

Sog_1 & MadSun - Nice designs - Like 'em :D

[MadSun]

Oregano,
Nice concept. I think the key here is-I hate to say it-thinking outside the box. The usual military/movie/video game type mechanical design gets old for me.

[stacy]

grrr...ok i finished my drawing but i dont know how to download it over here.....can someone help mmeeeeeee pleaaasssee?

[MadSun]

Stacy,
Do you have it uploaded? Right click on it and copy and paste the address.

[S.C. Watson]

Okay, my five year old son Holden is very excited about the idea of machines right now, so here's his contribution (it's a medical helicopter):

http://www.in-sight.net/Sketches/holdensHelicopter.gif

MadSun, I agree with you about seeing the same designs repeated (miliatry, game, etc.). Unfortunatetly, I think popular culture is inundated with certain expectations, so it's especially nice to see something unexpected, like yours.

[MadSun]

dfacto, I really like your design, but it is not an autogyro. It is a ducted fan lift vehicle-if you have counter-rotating fans you dont need a tail rotor. Don't mean to preach, but i grew up with this-dad's an engineer.
oregano,
I'm glad you see this. I hope others can too. It's great to see your son getting in on it. Potential artist?

[niq3d]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hori.asako/chopper.gif

I went for the old counter rotating (and invisible!) blades, as a side note this doubles as a bottle opener!

hopefully I'll have more time to play tomorrow.

I think the point mentioned above about thinking outside the box is well worth taking on board, I'll do this on tomorrows post.

Niq

[avalos]

MadSun, love the originality and technical skill
Holden, mad skills for a five year old on a computer

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v16/lavacasuprema/helicopter.jpg

[MrKayne]

Okay, I know I've been lazy, but I've just been so un-inspired to draw... but I still want to draw... ugh, weird :rolleyes: Anyway, here's a quick one today.
http://www.kaynecomix.com/dsg/292.jpg

[Wystro]

There are some lovely, very finished pieces today. I have about zero enthusiasm for the mechanicals -- I'll need to develop the skill of getting fired up on command.

http://sparkles295.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/helli.jpg

[Idiot Apathy]

Wow, there are some great entries today.

Another pretty quick monochrome from me today, I call him steven.

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/Ragnarok27/DSG/dsgdec16.jpg

Must... make... it... to every DSG. Can't quit now!

[Bammer]

http://keratin.pyoko.org/DSGDecember16.jpg

[Rho]

http://home.comcast.net/~dbowen113/16by12by03.jpg

Hey. This is my first post, I never realized conceptart.org had forums, eheheehe. It's based on a dragonfly, fastest bug on earth i think.
I really love the variety of styles in everybodys submissions, so much stuff I see today is anime influenced.
And damn bammer, i love the loose look, with just inferences of what's going on.

[bkmini]

hi everybody.

great work today, helicopters are pretty difficult. here's a very quick one from me. been busy lately.

http://www.bradkurz.com/chopper.jpg

[phantom_head]

ok...i repeat, i'm technology challenged. this was a real quick one, and if i hadn't fallen asleep, it might have turned out better!
http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Phantom_Head/25e4e3bc.jpg

[PoX]

Nice topic and some nice pics...

Rho: I love the concept, but that tail rotar won't work way down there, it will just flip the vehical around up side down.

Apathy: Its good that you post in every dsg, but maybe its time to stop naming them all after your lover? :) The side window looks a bit off, and I would lengthen the blades.

MrKayne: I like the chunky look.

Wystro: I like the design, but I would put the tail rotar at the front so it can work against the main rotar. The yellow is a bit harsh.

Avalos: nice.

Odd: Always awsome.

http://www.angelfire.com/bug/pox/chopper1.jpg

[Idiot Apathy]

Originally posted by PoX

Apathy: Its good that you post in every dsg, but maybe its time to stop naming them all after your lover? :) The side window looks a bit off, and I would lengthen the blades.


Ooooh... burn! Hey it was only two.. From now on they will be named using variations with the letters P, O and X starting with OxPoo first thing tommorow.

Other than that thanks! yup side window is a bit off and lengthening the blades would look better.

[William b. Hand]

I think I'll do a little more on this... it could certainly use more work, but... I dunno... Maybe I go to sleep instead?

Rotor gave me a lot of difficulty... both in technique and in visualizing the goal.
...Think I'm gonna force myself into a "Reference Week" soon, and mandate that every dsg I do be somehow based on real study. I gotta start pulling from sources outsida my brain.

http://homepage.mac.com/forumdump/.Pictures/Racing%20Copter%202.jpg

dfacto - Nice ducted fan lift vehicle! Very pretty.
Madsun - What a great design... excellent rendering... Looks like some lovingly hand-built kit to me.
Avalos - Pretty typical modern chopper look, but nice perspective and a real sense of movement in this pic.

[Rho]

hehee. Thanks for the input Pox. I noticed that after i started coloring. If you look in the background you can see a little note saying "Tail raises...". I was just trying to save myself. Looks like i learned a lesson already. Gotta think things through before you just throw it out there.

[dfacto]

***EXPLANATION ALERT***

Thanks for the terminology, but then I think its maybe a ducted fan lift vehicle autogyro because those things on the outside of the main body are supposed to be jet engines. I just haven't done it from any other angles yet, so its hard to see. Is it still a ducted fan lift vehicle then? I'm curious to know.

Awesome stuff MadSun and Oregano. You've inspired me to do another one, just to try and match your skills.

Tough luck for me ehh?:D

[Tadao]

10 mins on ideation thumbnails.

http://www.tadao.org/images/dsg/031216-heli-tn.jpg

15 mins on side view.
http://www.tadao.org/images/dsg/031216-heli-sideview.jpg

[paper slayer]

http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/paper_slayer/dsg292hsh1.JPG


http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/paper_slayer/dsg292hsh2.JPG

They ran out of testpilots, so they invented a robot one.
http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/paper_slayer/dsg292hsh3.JPG

Wow, there are so many interesting and good looking designs. Everybody has done great. :)


I had fun doing these, the first one is inspired by various aircrafts I saw on the internet.
I was probably influenced by dfactos to put it in top view.
Hope It Isn´t to similar,
I kind of got bored with it, so I tried a few other ideas instead of a view of heli-mode flight.

[William b. Hand]

Decided to watch a little X2 before crashing, and whuddayaknow... that leads to this, and this leads to ever darkening circles under my eyes.

Hope you like the update?

http://homepage.mac.com/forumdump/.Pictures/Racing%20Copter%202B.jpg

[guggemmaneuver]

Gee there are SOOO Many impressive entries today! So many innovative styles and techniques. I'm totally blown away.

I spent way too much time on this thing b/c I think helicopters are cooler than miles davis in shades. sketch after sketch after sketch wank wank. results mediocre at best.

VERY impressive work everyone!!!

http://www.joel-ball.com/dsg/dsg292_16xii.JPG
must work faster must work fastter must work faster must work faster

[MadSun]

I see everyone's been busy.
Hey, dfacto, here's some more tech-geek stuff. An autogyro has an un-powered rotor.It just rotates from the air moving through it. So it can't hover.
Hand-good stuff, kind of organic.