Jaku vs mcotie

[mcotie]

This is where the drink will flow and blood will spil. So if the boys wanna fight, you better let em.

[F3nix]

http://home.earthlink.net/~thatvietnameseguy/Tdome/29.jpg

[Jaku]

Here´s the topic for the battle:
Creature based.
Mythological creature created by human in the near (or far) future. It can be geneticaly created (jurasic park type) or mechanicaly created (animatronic or something like that).
It must look real and full of life.
What i mean with real is that it can´t look like a magical creature. To explain myself, it can´t be a creature like a balrog (made of fire) but it can spit fire because it´s technicaly posible to do it.
No limitations on the media.
At least one full rendered picture must be done.


Mcotie, take the time you need to take some rest an prepare metally.
I can win you with both hands tied on my back and my wacom pencil in my teeth but i want this to be fun, so don´t make it so easy buddy :evilbat:

[mcotie]

Jaku. You could only wish that I had time to rest my friend. I've been bustin my ass but I made a little time to crank out some WIPs. I chose the Manticore as my Mythical beast. This is a legendary beast from Asia. it is a Lionlike creature with bat wings and the tail of scorpion and the head of a human with a lions mane. But since we had to show this as fabricated by humans in the far future, I gave it a tail of a minigun and linkage, fixed wings. I've got a few other ideas floating. I'm also playing with an appropriate pose for my final illustration.

Mitch

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore_sketch2.jpg

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore_sketch1.jpg

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore_sketch3.jpg

[mcotie]

wow no replies. and all of those views. ooh that hurts.

well anyways. still postin here's a new one I settled on a pose and running with it.

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore2.jpg

[Nimrod]

I will reply with senseless praise! YOWZAH! cool concept.

Ok I have to try and be constructive; I will say I definitely do not like the fixed wings, but it looks like you changed it in your latest design. Also I think the shiny black robotic look is not as successful as a cyborg approach. Make a gory organic human face stapled on the head! That might just be personal taste though.

[Joeslucher]

I agree with Nimrod about the fixed wings. In the first post the face looked very gorrilla like and I'm glad you chose to go away from that as well. The latest looks very awesome. Can't wait to see it finished. I like the spinal/Aliens look of that tail.

[draigun]

damn thats looken hecka bomb keep up the good work

[Jaku]

My God! This is going to be hard....:rambo:
I´ll post my sphinx progress soon (when i have it...):P

[Jaku]

Better thought, a sphinx would be a female version or the monster you choose. I´ll think another one... :evilbat:

[Skank]

how did i miss this!!
:bash:

im diggin your manticore! that minigun tail is schweet, and like the others said, im glad you changed the fixed wing look.
the head design is original too!

cant wait to see this finished! and i also cant wait to see what jaku is cookin up =)

[Jaku]

Well this is what i was thinking about.
Still thinking on it.
Do you allow some kind of male/female war mcotie?
http://members.fortunecity.com/jaku1/td7/boceto1.jpg
just warming up.... :)

[talmir]

Wow, cool work both of you... I like that female but the front legs dont really fit in with the concept imo.. I'm unworthy to crit :bow: but please take it into consideration :P

[bwkeough]

Good battle shaping up here!

mcotie--I really like your newest pic and I think a shiny black carbon-fibre manticore would rock!

jaku-- don't back off because of similar creatures, just dig into the cultures that created the sphinx. I think the Egyptians didn't always have wings (if ever, not certain), while the Babylonians (or maybe Sumerians?) sphinx were mostly male and did have wings. Build a sphinx for the Neo-Babylonian war machine!

[GhostofMacbeth]

Very cool

[Dan Milligan]

hey mitch.
Here's my problem, how come your sketches look like my finished stuff. You son of a b*tch. I've got this folder on my desk top called "inspiration" and in that folder is another called "Mitch". Nuff said.

Jaku- Lovely sketch! great values. Look out mitch.

Peace
Dan

[mcotie]

Here's my problem, how come your sketches look like my finished stuff. You son of a b*tch.

Dan that's funny I was thinking the same of your stuff. :D

thanks!

mitch

[Jaku]

Funny experiments.
I´ve to try something more weird.
http://members.fortunecity.com/jaku1/td7/caras.jpg

[mcotie]

more WIP

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore2_2.jpg

[BeLi TiGaR]

If the rest of the pic is going to be like head of that machanic flying thingie, it will be jawbreaker!

[mcotie]

color WIP (cropped in to show some detail)

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore2_color_wip1.jpg

[THE LOCKER]

mcotie-dude,that is so awesome!!!if you don't mind me asking,how long did it take you to get from the black and white version to this color version? It seems like it took you no time at all. Anyways,very cool stuff both of you...

THE LOCKER

[benzo]

mitch- those two pieces are fuckin awesome! love the torch. it shows me how much quicker I can be and still be 100+ times as effective. i really liked the first 'study' too

jaku- i really like the color studies dude!! i like the tits, but you gotta figure out how this chick cat is gonna deal with that manticore..... make her more threatening and give her some fire retardant armor!

Great battle here!

[Jaku]

Yeah benzo, i know that i haven´t many possibilities right now but i´m sure it has to have a button to switch it off somewhere..... :P

[benzo]

Originally posted by Jaku
Yeah benzo, i know that i haven´t many possibilities right now but i´m sure it has to have a button to switch it off somewhere..... :P

hahaha- no Jaku, there are plenty of possibilities!

:beer:

[Kirt]

mcotie - Wow! That's freaky awesome! Love the blow torch and the details on the head are just jaw dropping gorgeous! I think the legs look a little fragile right now though. I think they need to be beefier and the hind legs seem to far forward (like it's sitting very uncomfortably).

[Skank]

oh my

ooohhhh mmyyyy....

mcotie..that color WIP is blowing my mind
youve awoken some kinda spark in me here....i must go draw now!!!

imma be watchin this shiat...:eek:

[Dan Milligan]

Mitch!!!!!!!

This is absolutely amazing. Really enjoying watching your magic.

Peace
Dan

[dfacto]

Awesome work guys!

Mcotie: You're damn good! You call those sketches? Two gripes though:

1) I think that it would be much better if the head was attached to the body through the wires (that act as hair) only and if it could freely move in and out of the body.
2)I also think that the head could be a bit smaller.

Awesome stuff regardless.

[mcotie]

Thanks guys. dfacto , good eye!. I reduced the size of the head. much better. thanks!

Mitch

http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore3.jpg

[Skank]

:jawdrop:
hehe, always wanted to use that smiley

ne who...
youre killin me smalls!!! this is inspiring to say the least man!
i only hope i can achieve this much mood and depth when i start painting my final work...im takin notes man =)

keep it up!

[SicFrost]

Wow, dude
simply amazing, love the color...what school did u go to,
your site is off the hook too
Keep it up
_BORIS

[BeLi TiGaR]

BeLi TiGaR picks up his jaw, and screams away into the night...

[MindCandyMan]

Mitch that is amazing...wow...fantastic!

[Lono]

that is fly mitch!! damn.. great design and rendering.. i love the tail man..

i do however think it would look a lot better with legs that were a little larger in scale though. right now it looks like if he stood up he would only have about half a foot of clearance from the ground. id personally go with something that had a closer relationship with the size of his head..

-Lono

[mcotie]

Hey Guys thanks alot.

Zach thanks man, I've been contemplating making another view/action shot of this guy with more light to show more detail. Thanks for the input.

sic8sic- thanks. school of hard knocks. just kidding. Art Institute of Dallas. My site still needs alot of work. I need to learn Flash to get some cool stuff happening in there. Always updating it with new stuff though. Can't wait to post my X-Men and Wizards of the Coast stuff.

mitch

[MindCandyMan]

Can't wait to post my X-Men and Wizards of the Coast stuff.


Wow mitch I am really happy for you...that security job and the frustration with those stupid computers in that computer lab are LONG GONE...you are doing exactly what you want to do. You've worked really hard and you deserve to be where you are now. It's awesome to see one of us go from attending school and trying to get into the business to kicking some serious butt and producing some AWESOME work. Keep it up man. :chug:

[tyboogie]

hey mitch

all the work youve done so far in this thread is top notch

i do think the front legs are too short and look a tad bit akward

your painting and color skills are a force to be reckoned with

thanks for the inspiration dude

tyler

[micke]

Wow! This be one of my favorite artist vs artis thread!
Great work Mcotie!

[Jaku]

Here´s the pencil sketch i´ll start with. Many things to fix yet. Tomorrow, maybe..... :D

http://jaku.iespana.es/jaku/td7/lapiz.jpg

[mcotie]

very nice, jaku.

[MindCandyMan]

that's sweet jaku!

[SicFrost]

can some plz tell me why i cant see Jaku's pic, all i see id fortune city something, im really curious

tnx
_B0R1S

[Jaku]

no idea, i´ll change sever...
better?

Thanks mindcandyman & mcotie!

[SicFrost]

OMFUCKINGG
THATS SOOO SICK
im so glad i got to see it, i didnt think that mcotie's pic could be topped but....we shall see

:D _B0R1S

[Tedsuo]

Man, there is some awesome stuff going on in here! :)

[Jaku]

Trying to figure out how i´d like it to look....
http://jaku.iespana.es/jaku/td7/colores.jpg

[MindCandyMan]

I love the green one the best I think. Although they are all very interesting. Can't wait to see these finished!

[killing.people]

awesome work guys!

jaku:
i like the bottom right. reminds me of puddenhead's colors.

[Aven]

These are both just looking amasing.

Jaku, I agree with MCM, the top right one is the best.

[redehlert]

go with the bottom right, jaku.
i agree - very puddinheadesque...more alive, vibrant, charged and focused. the others are good as well, but are more ambient at present.

peace.
d

[pol]

Wow Jaku, you've got a hard opponent here!! :bash:

The last sketches looks very good... like very much the greenish... but maybe with more tones in the palette (reds?)

have a good fight !!!

[BeLi TiGaR]

Bottom right... Love the wings in that colour..

[liquidwerx]

mcotie~ Fantastic work. :chug:


Jaku~ Love the sketch. As far as pallet goes, I like top right and bottom right. I really like the "alien" feeling of the greens, but I'm also diggin' the colors of the wings in the bottom one.


~Malachi

[killing.people]

hey mcotie:
thanks for your comment on my td sketch,
you had inspired me to work on rendering with another comment of yours a time ago and appreciate the nudge.

i love the design of your entry, this is a very good match up, you have given jaku quiet a scare i am sure :p

i think his arms are looking a little to short and stubby, the design on him looks very dexterous save his front legs. i know you are still working on it, but wanted to throw that out there for you to think about if you haddn't already.

best of luck to both of you, looking forward to your bout.

-kp

[Wohr Path]

I've got this folder on my desk top called "inspiration" and in that folder is another called "Mitch". Nuff said.
Mitch, no matter how much you are looking forward to the day when you can finally post your new Xmen and Wizards of the coast work, Me and Dan are even more excited about the day when we can add more kick @ss art to our Mitch folders. That pic is Amazing!! I am definitely glad that you are sharing a wip with us. Jaku thats some nice stuff I cant wait to see how this turns out.
Representin AID':chug:

[mcotie]

thanks for all of the great replies from everyone. I appreciate all of them. I took it to heart to make more changes to the Manticore's front legs. I actually studied some cat cadavers on the internet to see the muscle structure and applie it here. I wish I could really pimp this piece out "Milligan Style" but I really have no time to spare so this will be my final version of it.

Mitch
http://www.mcotie.com/images/manticore4.jpg

[Skank]

well done mitch, well done!

[MindCandyMan]

Mitch that looks so sweet...awesome job man. Your painting skills are growing so much! Definitely keep posting we need to see your art.

[SicFrost]

simply ...WOW!!

_B0R1S

[GhostofMacbeth]

Very cool Mitch

[redehlert]

Sweet....sweet.
Hey Mitch, would you be willing to post a slightly lighter version of your post to appreciate some more middle ground details? I'm on a mac (which is generally lighter than PC monitor profiles) and it's pretty dark.
Up to you, toughness....
I'm supposed to post my drawings too....umm....you found the time, what's my problem!?!?

Cheers!
d

[Jaku]

my head is yours mitch, you rock. :bow:

here´s my final entry
http://jaku.iespana.es/jaku/td7/sphinx.jpg