Strassenpenner's SB .. beginner (Update:27.2.2010)

[Strassenpenner08]

Hi community ^^

First ... I am Strassenpenner ^^ 16 (started this sketchbook with 15) years old pupil from Germany ... I want to improve my drawing skillz ^^

I would be happy when you would take a look at my drawings and help me to improve :P


cu SP08 ^^

New Stuff on Last Page ^_°

[Kiera]

Is ja schon mal ein guter Anfang für ein Skizzenbuch ^^
For face proportions, construction and getting a better grip on the 3dimensional shape of the head you could take a look at Loomi's "drawing the head and the hands" which is freely available online

[Strassenpenner08]

vielen Dank für den Tipp ;) habs gesucht und gefunden und nehms mir gleich mal vor :P
naja mein skizzenbuch is schon gut gefüllt nur irgendwie nichts internet reifes dabei :P

[wi2rd]

funny character:)

just keep on drawing.. do the best you can at all times
try to improve with every drawing..

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks mate :) ill try my best xDD

[HerrleerzeichenS]

15?-verdammt gut. versuch am besten so regelmäßig wie möglich was zu uploaden, dann stellt sich der erfolg schnell ein(zumindest galub ich das, ich probiers grad aus^^)
ich benutze auch manchmal ne kamera, mein scanner ist für n arsch^^, naja ich glaube ich bin zu dumm ihn zu bedienen.
also ich kann mich nur dem "wi2rd" anschlließen "just keep drawing", hast ja noch ne menge zeit.
gruß philipp
Will sobald wie möglich was sehen! :) ach noch was: kannst du mir den link von loomis büchern geben?-danke schonmal

[Bagg]

hey man if you want to get better at anatomy i'd recomend trying to find a life study class and also i'd recomend experimenting with the way you draw etc :)
Oh and one of my favourite activities to get you drawing if you have a block and also to help you improve line work and anatomy is Posemaniacs.com
Keep Drawing !

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks for your advices :)

Bagg:The site you posted is very great !! °_°

Hmmm I dont know ... ^^ I think my recent pictures are to bad to load them up xD ...

[SamC]

Hey man. You're best shot of improving quickly is to upload your work regularly and use the feedback and critique you get from other artists to improve...that is the point of the Sketchbook section. Hope you post soon.

[dchung]

thanks for the feedback in my sketchbook man... good to see you starting early :) ...keep on posting more and try experimenting with different mediums.

[Strassenpenner08]

Hi there :drinkup:

Sooooo after some months I decided to draw much more than before xD cause I was toooooooo lazy xD
Im in Berlin at the moment visiting my family ^_^
Last week I bought a Moleskine ....
I drawed a bit :lifedrawing:.... but the scanner here is the shit xD

I hope u can recognize what I drawed xDD


Suggestions for improvement are welcome :D
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[Lyno]

Hey, thanks fro dropping by :). It's cool to see you drew a "bit" :D. And yeah, always cool when somebody starts drawing so "early".

Get inspired and keep drawing, and never give up :)!

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks for your nice words Lyno .... i wish I could draw faces better .. but there is only one way... practise !! :P

I am really disappointed that my scanns lost so many details which are normaly to see in my Sketchbook :S
But taking photos failed cause the flash of the camera is reflected by the paper .. and shots without flash are to dark :(

[waffleKoan]

Good to see you are committed to improving your skills, looks like you are going about it the right way! I saw that someone recommended a Loomis book, that is good advice. Loomis and George Bridgman both have written several books on figure drawing that help simplify the human body into simple shapes and forms. You have a good grasp of form in some of your studies from life (spoon, lighter, eraser, etc.) that can be used to draw people accurately as well. Keep at it, good work!

[CatConvention]

haha thanks for the comment :3
I'm only a year older than you.
It's always good to start out really young. espesially learning from this website.

Keep working!

[Strassenpenner08]

waffleKoan: Thanks mate :P I will work a bit with Loomis :D Thanks for your advices :D

CatConvention: WOW !!! Never thought that :S But really nice works anyway :D ... jea Ill try my best to uoload daily/weekly XD

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some stuff from yesterday:

[Strassenpenner08]

New stuff from yesterday ............ BTW I HATE THESE SCANNER >.<

these selfportrait dont look like me anyway xD
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[DKHutcheson]

Self portraits are hard. You have to get used to your face being the same as everyone else's. x ) At least, I did.

Really like the spider one. The terror looks almost real in the eyes.

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks mate ^_^
Uhhhh yeah ..... i really want to draw selfportraits much better !!!! practise ! XD

[Henchman 21]

Strass--my only crit is to keep slaving away on anatomy studies. It pays off over time, believvveeeee meeeeeeeee

good start. keep posting!

[Strassenpenner08]

thanks man :D ill try my best to keep on practising anatomy ... but i dont really know how XD
from imagination or out of books ?

[Irishdrunk]

You have a good grasp on the muscles. But the proportions are usually off.

Just more practice, you'll definitely get there ;)

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks mates :D
jea ill beginn now !! :O

[B-Man]

Ahh fresh meat! :P
Thanks for the post man! :)
Im glad to se your doing some studies. Its always good to doodle ofcourse but really kick yourself in gear and do teady stuff like draw chapes. Without drawing lineart, just look at stuff and draw the shadows. It gonna make you grow fast. Theres always good to draw poses and box characters in different angles and poses. Fast ones just to get the hang of basics.
Power on soldier!
Mahalo!

[Strassenpenner08]

hehe ... wow thanks for this detailed suggestion :D
hmm dont realy know what box characters are ... people who are boxing ? or characters out of boxes ? XD
erm..... "things with shadows" ...do you mean life drawing or whut ?

[BlackDelphin]

Klasse! Jetzt, all was du zu tuen hast, ist regelmässig zu upladen :D
tue das, und du wirst sicher etwas gewinnen! after all, you're drawing, so you're automatically getting better

Gib nicht auf~
und
sorry for my bad german xD
just had to try it out...

[Hipalien]

Looks like you are starting out nicely with your material. One main hint draw figures from life as much as you can. Draw your family members, friends, people around town like at the park. Also draw just shapes and fast gesture type figures that can help loosen you up. Anyways just keep drawing and keep a daily sketchbook. I really didn't start that till my 20's myself. Well carry on!

[madsamuri2240]

yea all i have to say is listen to the advice everyone here has given you so far and youll definitely grow as an artist i wish i had people giving me this type of advice when i was your age.

[B-Man]

Hay skippy!
Box characters are characters out of boxes but more like figuredrawing with the use of boxes to nail proportions. hope that explains it for ya! :)
And damn right you should draw from life. And without lineart! Ill pop back in when I see some!
jetzt Arbeit. schnell! :D
(I dont know german)
'mahalo!

[Elle IS]

I'd say to start doing quick sketches of muscles/skeletons, keep up with the basic shapes from real life... but this is what I have to do myself, haha.

[B-Man]

Personally I newer got the whole ide with drawing skeletons. you should get like knowledge about how the body moves and bends but its a bit far from how it looks. I think just drawing figures in different poses and in movement. pause a DVD and just do a doodle and try capture the feel of movement. but skeleton drawing dont give more than knowing haw to draw bad as skelletons. You dont need to know every bone in the body. Thats for geeks with to much time. Time you can put on lerning the colorwheel and brush up your observationskillz. sry for spaming your SB but i didnt fully agree with Elle IS

[Strassenpenner08]

BlackDelphin:THANKS! haha, your german isnt that bad. Ja, I will try my best to uoload regulary ... but today is the last day with scanner :S and next week i go to spain 2 weeks >.< .... where the swineflu is btw ... xD

Hipalien: Nice to meet you, too :D Thanks for your advices
Like i said.. ill go to spain with my friends and there ill try to draw on the beach while chillin :D

madsamuri2240: Yea i do that :D I am pretty happy I found this nice Commonity and its nice member ;)

B-Man: Hey dude ! Thanks for your suggestion ;) I'll try my best to life draw as much as I can :D "Danke" ^_^

Elle IS: Thanks mate :D I do muscle sketches .. but i dont upload them here ^_^ like B-Man said.. drawing skeletons isnt usable
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Soo here some stuff from yesterday:
- crapy gestures - Selfportrait ( Im pretty Happy with that :D) - Sunglases - a character - some 30 second poses i tried on www.posemaniacs.com ..... that were the fastest 30 seconds in my live !!! XD

[Elle IS]

I suppose you're right and this is why I don't like giving advice about art or anything, haha, I'm a nubcaek that just does what I see suggested... sometimes...
lmao.

[Jamesy]

Wow, you're only 15! I'm jealous, haha. I wish I would have started drawing more when I was that young...About studying the figure, I'd say where you're at I would start working on correct proportions and the basic geometric shapes that make up the different areas of the body. When doing the anatomy stuff, it's important to study the bones too and not just the muscles. Knowing how the muscles attach to the bones will help you out in the long run and there's lots of books out there that illustrate bone-muscle relationship in an easy to understand way. Also having the knowledge of how a skeleton functions will help you understand how the figure moves and what it can and cannot do. Anyways, good luck with your studies and keep it up dude!

[Strassenpenner08]

Hmm thanks Jamesy ^^ ... I dont really study the bones but ... the skelton like the stickmans of Andrew Loomis ... i dont really draw every bone ^^ But thanks for your detailed suggestion .. :D in the next days / weeks i am in holidays ill do much life draws .. and try to draw as much gestures as i can :D

[Rustveld]

Thanks for dropping by SB man. It's good to see you doing some studies, I wish I started studying anatomy at 15.
Your self-portraits are already getting better. Do you use guidelines when drawing?
Keep doing those posemaniacs, I tried them on 30 seconds before, I had to change it to 90 sec before I could get comfortable with 30, cause like you said it goes by really fast! But with practice they become easier to draw. Some have already suggested Andrew Loomis, if you decide to study his drawings remember to read his comments too, it makes it much easier to understand. Keep it up!

[Ana Diella]

You have a minimum grasp at drawing so you should manage fine with some studies.

I would recomend that you learn color theory at the same time you also learn to draw so both can be balanced and not like me(i sketched like mad and never colored, now i have dificulties >_>).

But since you wanted some help I'll give ya some usefull threads and references.

Forum Sections to go:
- Fine Arts, studies and discovery (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
- Go here for drawing references (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30)
- Go here for all kinds of tutorials(traditional and digital) (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=42)

Go and participate on :
- Daily Sketch Group (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=39)
- Comunity activities (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=74)
- Anatomy, drawing threads like Nude Figure (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54331), Inklings (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97429), Figure drawing from the mind (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30205).

These are the things i would advise you to do if you want to get better and more wise in terms of proportions, flow, imagination, shadows, etc.

I wish you good luck :)

Ana.

[Fumble]

Good that you are doing self portrait, it is a great way to gain more knowledge about the forms of the human head. Do more :D

[R-Russo]

Hey man. You are young and are in the right path to become a very good artist. I wish I could be at your age. You have knowledge of what to study to get better and have joy to draw. This is a huge step. Don´t lose it.

I´m learning from Glen Vilppu. He is a master in breaking down the parts of the human body in geometric shapes. Here is the link: http://www.vilppustore.com/Figrdvd.htm. Consider buying some of these.

[Kjesta]

Schaut gut aus! Ich wünschte, ich wär mit 15 auch soweit gewesen. Mir gefällt die Sonnenbrille im Update gut, und der Kerl drunter erinnert mich an die KitKat-Werbung. "Or you want a watch? Beauuutiful swiss watches!" :hatsoff:

Jedenfalls gut, dass du abwechselnd Studien machst und aus dem Kopf zeichnest. Und immer schön dranbleiben am technischen Zeugs, es zahlt sich aus :)

Bin ja selbst noch nicht sooo weit und vieles ist schon gesagt worden, aber: variier mal die Dicke von Linien ein wenig, spiel einfach ein bisschen rum und versuch, verschiedene Teile einer Zeichnung durch kräftigere Linien mehr hervorzuheben. Insgesamt ist es gut, ein bisschen mehr auf Extreme zu achten - früher ist mir das nie aufgefallen, aber mittlerweile schau ich mir öfters mal ein Bild an und denke, "Ja, hau noch ein paar extremere Schatten rein", damit es nicht gleichförmig und eindimensional ausschaut. Deswegen mach ich Stillleben und so auch am liebsten, wenn das Licht so fällt, dass man kräftigere Schatten dabei hat, wenn's bedeckt ist oder man keine gute Lichtquelle hat, werden die Schatten schwammig und doof. Zumindest am Anfang hilft es, darauf zu achten, weil man dann die Plastizität leichter darstellen kann, als wenn man mit ganz kleinen, feinen Grauabstufungen arbeiten muss.

[Flaskpost]

looking nice so far! you´re off to a good start! keep working hard. :)
bis dann!

[GunTrouver]

Hi! Thanks for visiting my sketchbook. I see you are still at the beginning so the best advice for you is to keep practicing and doing studies from life and reference. Get some good drawing books from Loomis for example. You'll become better very fast when you keep it going.
Viel glück und viel spaß weiterhin:)!

[Braintree]

To help you improve your anatomy i can recommend bridgeman's books. They'll really help you out.

[BlackDelphin]

:O In Spain!? Swine Flu?! Das kann nicht sein! Ich meine doch...ich hab ja nix davon gehört!! Mein bruder ist dort >_>
Aah na ja, hab'ne schöne trip and don't worry, i'm better with understanding and reading german than i am with my writing :teeth:
Und you're welcomed~

[Strassenpenner08]

Hey there :D Im back Home from Berlin ^^ ....

Rustveld: Thanks dude :D ... ill try my best to draw as much as i can ... on friday i go to spain .... erm i think u allready read that ^^ ...

Ana Diella: Thanks for your nice words and links ^_^... unfortunately i have to less time at the moment to take part at theses forums ... but thanks anyway ^^

Fumble: Jea Selfportraits are hard ^^... ill keep on doing them ^^

R-Russo: Thanks to you too :D

Kjesta: Hey German :D Danke für deine netten Worte und Tipps ... ich werde versuchen meine Schatten zu verbessern, was ich eh shcon vorhatte .. ich gebe mein bestes :P

Flaskpost: Thanks man !!!!! :D i hope it is a good start ^^

GunTrouver: np ^_^ ill give my best :P

Braintree: Yeah, thanks ... i allready studied in Bridgmans books.. and ill keep on that ^^

BlackDelphin: Haha xD I hope your brother will be come back healthy ^_^ ... ahh i may not be so paranoid :D
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Here some doodles with OC from before 10 mins XD.... there are thunders and rain outdoor :< ..... I probably i will only get a scanner after the summer holidays in 4 weeks .... so .. when i have this scaner MANY pictures will be uploaded at the same time ^_^ ..... so atm only digitals

[freakmod]

Nice posemaniacs 30's, they look pretty solid. It's good you can get all the shapes in good proportions so fast.

You should try adding some more shading in the self portrait. Keep it up!

[Strassenpenner08]

freakmod: Thanks dude :D ill work on my shadings ... but i dont have scanner to upload them ^^ .. tomorrow spain .. bla bla ^^ .. thanks :3

QQ TT_TT :<


Im soo noobish in that whole digital stuff :S

can someone tell me how to start ? XD This is what ive done yet:

[FightingSeraph]

Your color tests look fine, but you may need to do more of them.

[Fumble]

My recommendation would be to wait with the colors and start with black/white values studies.
You could go to this site: mmaphotography.com, download a pic and desaturate it so it is only in grayscale. Then try to copy it. I find it a great way to practice values and how they show form. I have some exampels in my sketchbook if you need inspiration.

cheers!

[Strassenpenner08]

FightingSeraph: thanks man ^^ .. ill do :P

Fumble: Jay man :D thanks for this website ^^ ... ill try my best ... after 2 weeks ^^

In a few hours my trip to Spain starts !!! :D........ i packed my moleskines and pencils ... :3 ^^

[elddonnemar]

Thanks for dropping by! You've probably started your trip already, I hope you've had a good one by the time you see this.

The biggest problem I can see, after a quick survey of your work is that the lower body is usually too short. But I'm certain someone has already informed you of this. Otherwise, great work and keep it up!

[BlackDelphin]

Well he lives there so he won't be coming back to soon xD

About your studies, do mowr!!! And on your blending, why not try a ball up next? Or something with a bit of shape, to get those curves down~

[Flaskpost]

yesbox, more studies! :)
also, check this link, and read the guide a couple of times!

[Jeff Lai]

Hi Strassenpenner08
good to see you gettin in on the art early!
I also say just concentrate on the black and white studies.
keep up the good work!

[Icecold]

Hey there young Padawan!
It's been a while since I last dropped by, so here i am. Good to see that you have some cool ideas. I cant say anything that others did right now, your young you have the will and most likely whole lot of time in your life to improve :>

I'd like to see some real anatomy studies fromnyou, not the funny toons but real good old anatomy studies, which will pay off later. Tschüs!

Best wishes, Ice

[kyuhketsuki]

Zur Schulung des Auges im allgemeinen hilft's zwischen verschiedenen Herangehensweisen abzuwechseln, so meine Erfahrung. Als ZeichnerIn neigt man oft dazu, beim zeichnen immer gleich vorzugehen (zuerst die Augen, dann der Kopf usw... nur so als Beispiel), und dadurch besteht die Gefahr, dass man in einem Schema stecken bleibt und sich nicht wirklich weiterentwickelt. Die klassischen Anatomiestudien sind schon gut, doch würde ich mich nicht ausschliesslich darauf konzentrieren...
Wie oben auch schon gesagt wurde, find ich's ebenfalls gut, wenn du sowohl aus der Vorstellung als auch nach Vorlagen arbeitest.

Meine Tipps:
- nicht nur linear arbeiten: auch mal versuchen mit Flächen sich an eine Figur heran zu tasten (Schattenpartien zusammenfassen, Linien erzeugen durchs Zusammenstossen von helleren mit dunkleren Flächen) > versuchen MALERISCH zu zeichnen!
- Sich auf bestimmte Aspekte konzentrieren: Silhouette, Licht-Schatten, Details, Körperhaltung
- Arbeitszeit variiieren: schnell skizzieren (2min/zeichnung) vs langsam zeichnen (mehrere stunden an der selben Zeichnung)
- (Papier)Format mit einbeziehen: Wo und wie steht die Figur im Bild?
- Abstraktion vs Naturalismus: möglichst einfach (smily) vs möglichst naturgetreu
- Konstruktion vs Beobachtung: Schema zum "richtigen" Aufbau eines Körpers vs was wirklich zu sehen ist (inklusive Imperfektionen des Modells)

[Strassenpenner08]

Hey there mates ....

Im really ashamed of not dropping by a long time :(

ok how to start .....

elddonnemar thanks for your nice words .. ill practise the lower body :D

BlackDelphin Yeah ill try to post more studies and sketches, but first i have to get a scanner °_° so like you said to me .. ill try to improve my digital skills and start to draw balls xD

Flaskpost thanks for dropping by ... which link ?

Jeff Lai ill give my best at the black and white studies ^^

Icecold thanks man :D .. i think ill start practising "real" humans and poses like u said :D

kyuhketsuki wow ... vielen Dank für deinen ausführlichen Beitrag ^^ ich werde es mir zu Herzen zu nehmen und einiges, wenn nicht auch alles mal davon ausprobieren.... nur zur Zeit ist der Reiz durch die massigen Ratschläge die mir gegeben wurden sehr hoch ... deswegen stück für stück vorerst ^^

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So.... thanks to all the people who gave me tons of advices :D
Ill try to make use of all of them, but that are so many .. ill do that piece by piece ^^


At the moment im not able to upload my pencil works i did the last months (which arent that much btw :( )

But i have my graphic tablet :D but my photoshop i got from a friend is lost after my hard disk is broken .... so i only have OpenCanvas 1.1 which is also great with the right settings ^^

So my first question is: How to start practising digital painting ??

Second question: Is anyone interested in a OC session with me? For showing me his/her skills


Strassenpenner08 :D

[SamC]

So my first question is: How to start practising digital painting ??

Yeah the programs aren't really important, you're effectively just learning how to paint. Basically, it's just like anything else: you learn from studies. Apples are a good place to start because they reflect colours around them in a similar way to skin. Great place to start: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107217&highlight=bumskee . Be sure to switch to greyscale every now and then to check your values are working though. Good luck.

[Lumens]

You're 15? man i wish i started a sketchbook at that age heheh.
I'd say get yourself some anatomy books and start studying from that.
I am currently using Sarah simblet anatomy for artists
and loise gordon but i heard bridgeman is good.
Are you familiar with posemaniacs? its a great site for drawing persons in all kinds of
angles and poses.

Keep it up and you will be awesome sooner than you think!
I''ll be checking back for more.

[Strassenpenner08]

uh yeah man .... anatomy is a big fish ^^
i took loooks in so many anatomy books .... Hogarth and Bridgeman are my favorites .. but i think ill draw some poses out of posemaniacs.com, like you said :D

[kingkostas]

Hi mate.For your age you seem to have done some good training.Now you have to keep studying more so that you will be amazingly good in some years, and you will be young also.
Your characters will not become good if you dont study anatomy.So make some focus on anatomy even if its boring,and keep in mind that after you become good with it your will be able to create good characters in good speed.
Keep going & and thnx for visiting my sketchbook

[Vatsel]

Hey man wheres the updates? It's been a month, GET GOING!

(thanks for the visit btw ;) )

[Strassenpenner08]

kingkostas: Thanks mate :D Ill go on practicing anatomy .. but you wont see that much from these studys cause i got no scanner :<

brewin: D:uhh no probleme dude :D have no scanner :<
so i could just upload digitals ... but im too lazy for digitals °_° ..... and too bad xD

[jatherip]

you could take pictures of you work with the digicam your holding in you avatar :P
just an idea ;) SHOW YOUR STUFF!

[pfloyd]

Nice drawings you got there, keep practicing. by the way, were the same age and i think we are at pretty much the same skill level. You can go to my sketchbook and judge for yourself. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[freakmod]

Post moar! :canadian:

[Strassenpenner08]

Hey there !!! I turned 16 today :D (15.11.)

And do you know what i got !?!?!??!

A SCANNER !!!!!!!!!!

YAY !! My motivation is bigger than ever before ;D .... i hope this will stays so ^^
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jatherip: thanks mate ^^ so i show some stuff :D

pfloyd: tanks mate ^^

freakmod: I try to :DD !!!

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I need to draw faces :/
so some scanns ^^:

[B-Man]

Happy birthday a bit to late! :D
Im glad to see some bridgeman. Its important that you learn form. Your drawings sometime tend to get flat. Start with easy shapes and try and draw them so that they look good. Its a actually hard to make a cube look really fricking great. with lightsourses and everything. Start with easy shapes and draw them with the same light. Move to stranger chapes and try and make em look 3D. Keep on drawing your characters and everything that makes you love drawing but try and do mere studies aswell. Your young and I know how bored you get with studies. I remember how it was for me. Keep up the bridgman and stuff. You need to studie figure and proportions. Do box figures. Great way to learn proportions and fun as hell! :)
take care buddy!
I hope you dont mind. This is a small image of a box figure. Its easy to define form. you see where evrything is facing.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=803406&d=1255614687

[ryan mcshane]

im liking the telephone and the bridgman studies (: good work!
and happy birthday for the other day :D

[Strassenpenner08]

B-Man thanks for your detailed reply :D i will try my best :D and nice description ;)

Pandah thanks mate ^^


so here some new stuff :D digitals are from today

[Strassenpenner08]

Hi there today just 2 digital "quickies" xD ... well that wasnt really quick :D

enjoy both from observation

[jatherip]

du willst digital painting lernen? DU WILLST DIGITAL PAINTING LERNEN`? DANN KRIEG DEINEN ARSCH VON DEINEN ARSCH VON DEINER BESCHISSENEN KONSOLE ODER DEINEM PC ODER WAS AUCH SONST IMMER DEINE ZEIT STIEHLT WEG, UND ÜBEEEEE BIS DAS BLUT UNTER DEN FINGERNÄGELN HERVORQUILLT UND DIE SEHNEN IN FETZEN HÄNGEN! muhahahahaha
nur geduld, übung macht den meister. vor allem studien ;)
keep at it!

[Vatsel]

what ja said. but with a calm, english-speaking voice ;D

[Strassenpenner08]

jatherip hehe .. ich werd versuchen nur mit weniger schmerzen xD

Vatsel ^_^ thanks :D


here 2 digital quickies.. both from reference 1 without pen pressure

[JoeS]

Good stuff, gets better and better throughout the sketchbook. i like the digitals especially :D

[Lightpunk]

Keep it up man, you are getting better and better!

[Chompo]

The best thing is if you will continue to draw more and more from life!
As you do this, looking at things will become easier for you.
There are endless things to learn, start from the basics.
Sometimes you'r line gets messy, use one confident line.

I think you will do!:) Keep up with your enthusiasm!

[AlexTooth]

Nice work and progression man!! Tip, every page of studies, do a page from memory :)

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks guys ;D

here a digital quicky from life dunno if u know that tool ... its a Staple remover :D

EDIT: the brown is the reflection from the table ^^ its metalic :D

[Lateman]

hey man .. i see you work hard! also i like these anathomy-studies. go for studing colors, i something is green for example, its not just 1 greentone, this tone is made of alof colors like red yellow brown some greentone and dunno what. so keep at it!

cheers lateman

[Elophant]

schick schick man ... hast dich echt gut entwickelt in den letzten monaten *thumbs up*

:D
ziemlich cool hier mal jemanden zu sehen der aus deutschland kommt und das gleiche alter hat wie man selbst :D

werd den thread hier im auge behalten ^^

[Strassenpenner08]

Lateman thanks for ur kind words and advices ^^

Elophant danke mann :D ^^


here a couple of quick hand studies and some retarded 30sec gestures from posemaniacs

[Elophant]

Jub ich mach auch streetart :D ... aber nicht nur ... n gesunder mix aus allem oder wie auch immer

posemaniacs .. wieso reden da immer alle vonn was ist das ? ich werds ma gogglen :D

[Elophant]

ach ja .. da fällt mir ein: hast du msn oder n ähnlich messenger programm ?

wenn ja kannst du mich ja mal adden wenne magst :D : raman.dj@hotmail.de

[Strassenpenner08]

(>°-°)> <(°-°)> <(°-°<)

some doodels i did while watching TV ..... thinks today was a lazy day XD and tomorow school is starting again .... i try to draw as much as i can

peace out

[Obstbrand]

gut, gut :) weiter, weiter, immer weiter

[Icecold]

You are still very young, but you got potential, now it wont happen fast i can promise you that, but you will be good one day, if that happens in 4,5, or six years it all depends on the heart you put into it, and i agree what Jatherip said, more time spend at drawing will pay off. Now guess what you have to do now? Draaaaaw :D

Now i wanted to say that in german but i'm affraid that there would be too much grammar mistakes ^^

[Strassenpenner08]

Hey there ^^

Obstbrand thanks dude ^^

Icecold thanks :D i hope so xD

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just a very very small update :< school keeps me busy i am writing 4 exams this month...

thats not all i did in the last weeks .... i am studying between times in school

Edit: oh damn i think the smiley faces are ruining the anatomy :S

[TopSecret]

Hey nice improvements, those digitals look quite nice.. the colour studies are great too, keep it up!

[JoeS]

Hey, thought i'd visit your sketchbook again, and i have to say those hands are really good! and your anatomy has improved. Posemaniacs is great isnit :D Only advice i could give is to try and work bigger, as in on large paper. Drawing larger actually helped me to get proportions really good, if you can see what i mean. :)

[teapo]

AWEEESOMME SKETCHBOOK BUD! flipped through your sketchbook, and there is vast improvement from post #1 to now. keep up those anatomy studies and everything else and you're gonna go big :D b(^-^d)

[paperX]

good stuff man, keep working hard at it! just a word of advice, maybe try paint the surrounding environment (the table etc) when doing still life studies, and pay attention to the edge work (squint your eyes and soften and harden edges to create contrast)

[Strassenpenner08]

So Hi there ^^

A post after a long time ..... first in this year :D

thanks: paperX , teapo , JoeS and TopSecret

I think in the last time i did not have enough time to draw something to post here .... but its not so that i didnt draw anything ... i am drawing the whole time at school actually, but at home im too lazy to start something....

In the last week i had a project for my school.... my teacher told me its free for me what i will do .... so i did tape art .... i dont know if some of you know that but its art made with masking tape

here are the steps and the result (the guy on the last picture is a classmate to show how "big" it is)
the picture tooks me 8 weeks and 16 workinghours
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[Janos]

Tape art, thats new to me.
Sweet idea and execution. One big tip though if you really want to go beyond the hobby with your stuff... force yourself to draw sometimes, especially at home where you are free to do what you want. After five minutes you will be so into it, you are going to spend hours drawing.
Keep going and sharing.

Cheers

[Strassenpenner08]

Thanks Janos

I know ... if I started drawing i cant stop it but i think the start is hard xD cause often i play xbox, watch TV or sitting in front of the PC .... so im a little piece of lazy shit ^^
but ill try it the next days ....

On the other hand im very busy because of school .... ^^

[Janos]

Yeah, school is tiresome.
How about now. Instead of reading the shit I have to say you could be drawing! :D

[Strassenpenner08]

Hi there again and again ^^

so ... erm i think i will do some pencil work in the next time and upload these .... but first i tried to paint from a reference which was a picture i took...
i wanna hear your comment plox ^^

[Bella DC]

Hey thanks for visiting my sketchbook (Danke scheun!)!! I wish I had done anatomy studies when I was 15! I've been reading some of the comments and I agree with most of them, there's not much I can add to be honest! Keep it up! I'll be checking back!

[B-Man]

hey there!
I like your tape art! I have close friends hwo used to do streetart with tape. :) Keep on painting bud wanna see some more updates in here soon.

[Strassenpenner08]

Bella-DC thank you :D no im not 15 anymore ^^ i turned 16 in november ;)
B-Man yeah thanks ^^ .... i got information about tape art on the TV and i found some pictures in the internet ... so i thought "lets try it" ^^ ... i really enjoyed working on this picture .. now it is hanging in my school :D

yeah .... i really try to do some pencil work but i cant find time to do that .... im really busy because of school....

here my most recent work ... el presidente ^^ .... it is my first digital portrait

[Onisan]

Hey danke für deinen Eintrag!

Machst doch schon coole Sachen. Mein Tipp: Einfach weitermachen und am Ball bleiben dann wirst du stetig besser egal was du zeichnest ;) Nicht zu früh aufs Digitale umsteigen das wird man nicht mehr los!

Bin schon gespannt auf neue Arbeiten von dir

[Mr.Alamo, C.]

hey!
danke fürs vorbeischauen und dein post!!!:drinkup:
ich fand tapebild sehr geil,ungewönliche ausführung,in designerkreisen sind solche gedanken goldwert.lass dich bloss nicht vom zeichnen abhalten,
schön weiter reinhauen,ich sags nur,es lohnt sich;)
Schöne grüße aus Osnabrooklyn,
Andreas

[kingkostas]

very nice mate.Especialy the tape art, is really nice!!!
Keep up working, and yep do more drawings :P

[Sebastian Gromann]

shiiiiaaaat man ! :o don't compare yourself to the hyper-awesome-unnormal-alien-bear-like people at your age %) get your posivtive attitude back hombeboy ! haha :D

you'r just sixteen and got more then enough time to develop yourself and your art :)


here's a QUOTE OF ALGENPFLEGER to give you a motivation booooooooooost ! FINISH YOUR QUEST ! you'll make it for your man ! YAY ! now get your fun back and grap your pencil !!! :):):)


One thing that annoys me to no end is how much people seem to concentrate on the wrong things. The reason why I won't show my schedule is that it's nothing more than a piece of paper with stuff written on it. It only takes on meaning in connection with the guy who created it, which would be me. How would my schedule be of use to anyone else? It's really, REALLY important that you stop thinking in this "If I only had" and "What's his secret" mindset. It makes you dependent and weak and will prevent you from growing. THERE ARE NO SECRETS. I don't say this because I don't want to share my stuff, I say it because it's really, really important to grow a spine and learn to ANALYZE YOUR OWN WORK, look for weaknesses, and find ways to tackle them. Don't take anything for granted! If someone else gives you advice, it's a bonus, but you can NEVER depend on it.That's the most important thing my drum teacher taught me, back when I was a young, arrogant kid and sucked at drumming. He crushed my ego completely by showing me all the things I couldn't do, and, more importantly, how to FIND them. You NEED to learn this if you want to improve - look at your own stuff! To me, working completely from imagination is the best way to do this. I draw a figure, and if I had problems with the shoulders, well, then I'd better go back to studying those! And if I will ever be able to draw a flawless figure, then I know sure as hell that I will rot if I stay in my comfort zone any longer. Get the fuck out of there! Do stuff that you can't do! I feel this is essential - do never look at the things you have already achieved! It will make you fat and lazy. Strive for more, reach for the impossible. This is the only way to prevent stagnation. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF! Look at Jason Manley's story, check out MindCandyMan's thread - people can do anything! You just have to WANT it and WORK TOWARDS IT.

Back to the schedule, a piece of paper does NOT help you to get up early, it does not help you to stop slacking. What it does is REMIND you. The greatest danger for drive is, in fact, life. There's always so much stuff happening around you that it's terribly easy to lose sight of your goals. So write them down! This is where motivation and drive come from, at least for me - constantly asking yourself "Am I there yet? No? Well, then I'd better bust out a few more drawings, so I can look myself in the face!" You NEED to have this stuff right in your face, or it will get lost. But as soon as you are able to always think of where you want to be, you'll have the best reason to get up early, to not watch TV, to still draw when everyone else is already asleep.

I touched this above, but let me say it again for emphasis, what I feel is extremely important is becoming INDEPENDENT. This does not mean never talking to anyone else, or that you shouldn't ask for advice if you can't figure out something on your own, or if you're stuck somewhere, I do it too. But it means trying to come up with solutions to your own problems.
This applies to what I said above - if you notice you can't draw hands, then draw hands! But it also applies to questions like "Where do you get your reference?" Well, where would I get reference? Doesn't it, first of all, depend on what you want to do? If you need to study hands, then why not study your own? Get yourself a mirror and start drawing! If you're looking for specific poses, then why not think about it for a second? Are there sports that have these movements? Yes? Well, then go to google and type something like "handball galleries", or go to flickr and search for "flying kick", and you'll find more stuff than you'll ever be able to study in your whole life! It just depends on what YOU need. There's no such thing as the ultimate source, or the ultimate brush, or the ultimate sketchbook paper (Jesus, why does everyone ask DanielC what paper he uses? =D I remember asking him too a while back, he missed my face just by a few inches!) This is really really important - ANALYZE the problem, and then come up with a specific solution.

And this is exactly how your schedule should work. And if that is still not enough, then aim higher! Set more goals, like, update daily, do a character every day, reach this artist's level by that date, and so on. This requires a bit of thinking of where you REALLY want to be. Keep your eyes on the horizon!!

And a last thing that you can't stress enough - listen to Bobby Chiu's podcasts. It's the best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJowNFmuul8

[iven]

Wow everything in here, liebe gruesse nach BALIN waa,..........
Great stuff just keep drawing,....

[Elophant]

Na dann hau mal was raus ....