Kwonger: UPDATED NOV 17 flying fat cats... bleh

[Kwonger]

Admired peoples work here for awhile.. finally a post from myself. Some works.. not too sketchy but they're unfinished none the less. Most of my work never really stays sketchy.. always end up cleanin it up..

A few of my own

brit bruiser
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/bruiser.jpg

untitled
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/umberpeng.jpg]

whipped
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/whipped.jpg

vamp hunter
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/vamphunt.jpg

cat dude
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/catdude.jpg

nuther kitty
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/catdude2.jpg

demon
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/demondude.jpg

some SF fan art..
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/chun-li.jpg

http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/ryu-aku.jpg

n lastly some characters i'm doin for a company called liquidmoonstudios... excuse the poor clean up.. will be dealt with all in due time.

http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/MS_A_jupiterknight1.jpg

http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/MS_A_merc1.jpg


http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/MS_A_euro1.jpg

UPDATE
heres some more stuff i did in the past week. Its been a slow one.

If there are centaurs and minotaurs already.. then what am i gonna call this dude?
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/moo.jpg

armored matador.. needed that upgrade... unfinished
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/matador.jpg

umm.. hes got big chopsticks.. what more can i say
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/chopsticks.jpg

knife
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/knife.jpg

unfinished stuff:

errr the screaming crotch... j-rocker.. in prog
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/axe.jpg

nuther vamp hunter in progress.. scroll right
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/vamphunt2.jpg


well yep thas bout it fer now

cheers.

-Ed

[INFERNOmunky]

those are some amazing pictures....i love the line work and detail in each character

[Snowfly]

cool! your control over your forms makes me green with envy.
man, these would be fun to paint.

post more!

[behemot5]

:eek:

[ClocktowerArtworks]

i love these...your line quality and varying of line weights is spot on...clothing designs are clearly carefully considered...great...reminds me of how my stuff will look in a few years of hard work...my only criticism is it seems you need to practice feet. your designs for shoes and feet are brilliant, but placing them in perspective and in believable stances seems to need a bit more practice. lets see some more.

[Phuzion]

Killer lines dude. Careful with making up muscles on the Demon pic, but that's my only crit. Awesome, awesome work.

[Bomba]

Kwonger, nice style and pencils. Take these one step further and shade/color them capcom style.
-J-

[K-10]

Nice work, your skill's utterly dwarf mine.

One question though, those 3 last one, where they FFX insiperd?

[strych9ine]

Beautiful line quality, man. Just great pieces... thanks for sharing.

[behemot5]

good work.... i like your red sketches

[Johann de Venecia]

that is so good. nice sense of balance in your works. i especially like the girl with the umbrella.

good stuff!

[Kwonger]

Hey
thanks fer the feedback everyone!

ClocktowerArtworks: Yeah perspective is something i've been trying to fully tackle for a long time. But yeah it can get wonky on me. As you said, practice is wut will remedy it.

Phuzion: Heh yeah i totally kno wut you mean about the muscles.. I did go overboard on em.. Looking back I think my initial goal was to bring out the muscles that usually aren't contracted or normaly aren't that defined. But yeh one too many shouldn't be there.

Bomba: I will colour them up one day soon.. cept i've yet to tinker with colourin anythin digitally. Soon enough..

K-10: Not particularly, although now i see what you mean as i've just recently taken a closer look at t.nomura's (of FFX fame) work. The last 3 were drawn before i checked out his stuff a couple of months ago. But his stuff is definately of some inspiration at this point.

To everyone else: Glad you liked n thanks again

Cheers.

-Ed

[Sypha]

Your linework is amazing, I have to agree! A bit more clean on some of your black inked pieces and they'd be very well done. But, then, they are just sketches...hmm?

[Patch]

Sick skills dude. I love your technique and your eye for clothing details....

[sin]

who are you influences? your art is FANTASTIC! argh! i love it! lol how can i learn to draw just like that; the vampire hunter is simply amazing.

more!!!!!

[metaphysiks]

pretty friggin sick dude, how old are you?
:beer:
meta

[TurtleWithWeapons]

Absolutely amazing! I especially love your Vampire Hunter!

[bRyaN]

Absolutely amazing..wow...

[Romulus]

Damn the detail is amazing..I love the Demon. If I may ask what size paper did you use? And what kind of pencil is that?

[Kwonger]

thanks fer all the kind comments everyone.. much appreciated.

Sypha: Hmm well still concepts.. Those last 3 could have changes but heh I rarely leavin anythin really really sketchy so i dunno wut you could call this.

sin: influences... ahh too many to name.. off the top of my head.. hyung-tae kim, falcoon, t.nomura, joe mad, lesean, francisco ruiz velasco, ramos, ale garza.. n loads more..

metaphysiks:fresh outta highschool lil more than 3 months ago.. 18. glad thats over.

Romulus: On these, i used those cheap red col-erase pencils by sanford. fer paper size i normally use from 11x14 to 14x17 paper cuz its gives me more freedom on the page n lets me fit in details.

Well hope you guys stay tuned.. hope to have more soon n thanks again.

-Ed

[morbidhumor]

Nice stuff. Dig that super clean style.

[Kwonger]

UPDATE OCT18 (moved to top.)

Thanks to all... again i really appreciate the compliments.


thanks n cheers.

-Ed

[Romulus]

How did you learn your anatomy? books or what?
GREAT WORK! Your anatomy is great..I refer to it at times haha. Love the Centaur.

[infinitipo]

This is amazing stuff, very creative and detailed. Me like.

[Landmate]

your line quality is awesome.

stay away from fan art stuff and stick to your original designs Is all I have to say :P

[Zebz]

Wow! Thanks a lot for posting! I found your work to be very inspiring. It's such a cool, fluid style that I wish I could grasp! LoL I really enjoyed the clothing too. How does one keep their head straight when designing outfits and such?! I'm just lucky enough to get the anatomy right! LoL I'm curious how you've practiced to gain such an edge on this style. Any excercises you used to do? Very cool stuff. I admire you very much! And only 18! That's crazy!

Ryan

[Anto]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
amazing lines man

:confused: im also very curious as to how long you studied anatomy and what excercises youve done, i think your knowledge of anatomy is clearly evident - great job and never stop

[Kwonger]

thanks a lot everyone! Your comments mean a lot.

Romulus, Zebzfree, Anto: to answer your question about anatomy... no books ( though i should pick up sum) so far.. i guess it slowly crept up on me the more n more i drew.. i've only just recently taken my first figure drawin class.. about three classes in so far. As to my understanding of it before that.. jus through observation and looking at how other people did it themselves. I guess you've just gotta apply drawing the body in as many forms possible... n if i ever came across a muscle that i hadn't seen before or wasn't clearly defined then i just try and take note of it. Heh just draw draw draw.. sooner or later things either just look right or not n u'll be able to tell if what muscles you've drawin look somewhere near natural. ahah i prolly coulda condensed that much better..

n everyone else.. glad you dig the work.. no doubt i'll be posting whenever i can. thanks.

-Ed

[daG-ELLO]

Insain, I love your clothing. We need more!

[PencilPunx]

Holy shit dude! You are a beast.

[metalwinds]

hmm, another youngin. great work dude.. . your designs are really creative and you lines are great. id really like to see you start a daily sketchbook. one question though: approximately how long does it take you to draw (complete) one of these pictures?

peace

[Capurnicus]

Yo Kwonger Im new to this forum and Im really diggin your stuff. I think being on this forum will help me better in my artwork, I'll be posting some soon, please give me a critique when I do.

[digitalgannon]

man, first of all, i love your stuff, cant find anything to fault, NICE WORK! inspiration is flowing throught me, also TY TY TY for giving me the name Falcoon! He is a GOD! When searched his art, i about fell over, his style is incredible, ty so much for the refference!!! And keep up the good work, you definatly are on the right track! By the way to you know any of the artist names that worked on the Rival School's games? Thanx again, look forward to ur future posts!:pumpkin:

[Kwonger]

daG-ELLO, PencilPunk: thanks!

metalwinds: thanks.. yeh i'd like to do that soon.. i draw in really sporadic sessions though.. its hard for me to say how long cuz i've never really kept track of time.. depending upon whether the character is totally clear in my mind and how much forethought i've made, how many details add to the drawing..for some of these characters, I just went straight to the page without sketching them out first... i'd say anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours for clean line work, give or take. usually do my cleanup as i go.. what usually stalls me is not knowing what i wanna do with a particular piece whether it be the pose, clothing detail, etc.. so if that happens i'll leave that particular piece n start somthing else n then come back to it later once the image is clearer in my head. so yeah, it really varies. I'll work on maybe 2 or 3 characters at a time if one of em stumps me for the moment.

Capurnicus: yeh will do when i can n thanks.

digitalgannon: heh glad to be of help. falcoon is a machine.. draws everyday to a wikked standard.. too bad he took a whole bunch of his stuff off his site a lil while ago. About the capcom artists who worked on rival schools... actually I have the design works book, but it all in japanese.. so ahah figurin out who did what is a tad confusin.. theres no doubt that they play off one anothers styles, as their work has so many similarities to each other. I think the capcom design works book is totally worth it though.. a newer book is also comin out soon but i forgot what its called.

much appreciation for the comments again

-Ed

[TheDirtSyndicate]

fucking great!
you have inspired me to go work on some of my personal projects again, even after a .....fuck.....i've been at work for 23 hours.
ya know, i should probably go to sleep for now.
but im deffinately saving this thread in my favorites.

l8r.

[INFERNOmunky]

man Kwonger now i hate you even more knowing that you dont even sketch.....ur stuff is so amazing....

I CALL DIBS ON YOUR BRAIN ! ! !

[Kwonger]

complete2: thats great to know.. yeah theres always some stuff that i haven't finished either. thanks

INFERNOmunky: heh i never said i didn't sketch.. just that some of the ones i posted weren't... they just flowed out.. alotta the time i do sketch but doing it very lightly to try out different poses, forms and such.. really all just depends on whether i have difficulty putting one of my ideas on paper or not. if anything i should sketch way more instead of being set on a certain idea or look, then i'd really know how to present a character in a way that'd make the most impact.

-Ed

[siskol p]

REALLY GOOD STUFF MAN


i'd really like to see you paint them because your line art is so clean...


keep 'em coming you've really got talent

[Main Loop]

very nice, clean work.... good line quality... i dont really go for the peanut-head-on-Hulk's-body look that most of em got going on... You do any drawing from life? i suggest it, if you dont... I also suggest you try painting some of them in gouache.. photocopying them then painting the copy might be a safer bet..

[digitalgannon]

ahhhhhhhh, u could go the actual painting way as stated by loop- tho if u got a copy of photoshop lying around or painter for that matter- do it there- much more easier to make changes and play w/ then gua. If u do paint them, are u gonna do it like Falcoons work? Anyways thats my 2 cents

[killing.people]

great stuff, thanks for sharing!!

[Kwonger]

siskol P: thanks, much appreciated man.

main loop: i know what you mean when you referred to the proportions that i used and yes i do take and have done life drawing before and i do understand natural proportions. I don't mean to sound lame by using the "its my style" comment... but in this case, it is. Alot of my anatomy stylization is drawn from the capcom artists. If you've seen the work that their various artists use.. the anatomy is quite often exaggerated ( big hands, long forearms, enlarged torsos, etc..) It's a style that appeals to me. I try to take my anatomy into very careful consideration when i draw. Big hands that seem to be able to grip an entire head, when in real life a hand should just barely be able to cover ones face, are characteristics of certain pieces in my artwork, but that's the way i choose to do so. To put it simply, i think it looks cool, but it doesn't mean that i can't draw something to the correct proportions of an actual person... and gouache.. i'd like to try them one day.. but at the moment i'm trying to tackle projects with oils. I've thought about colouring a few in natural media but i think i'll leave this line work to digital colouring.

digitalgannon: heh, though i love falcoon's colouring style.. I think i'm gonna try to find a method of my own. Dunno what it is yet, i just gotta play around with PS or painter a bit.

killing.people: :D

-Ed

[Luke Mrozek]

Your art is an inspiration, those drawings are simply stunning great, keep them commin' mate.

Luke.

[Main Loop]

yeah, i feel you.. the stylization is totally evident, and ive seen the capcom stuff (hasnt everyone?) and i cant say i care for it much, but i do like to see that people can draw what they see and not just copy someone else's style, ya know? but its cool that you can draw.. keep doin you.. i would like to see some colored work, digital or traditional

[Kwonger]

Luke: heh will do.. n thanks

Main Loop: No doubt a proficient artist should be able to vary their work in styles, methods, and what not and yeah i totally know what you mean. I don't consider myself as a copycat artist though.. because i think of a style obviously more than just the way anatomy is drawn..n i'm sure you kno that there are many other factors to a style. even tho their work inspires me and it obviously shows.. there are a lotta other things that makes my work different and unique in its own right and i kno that my own personal style will develop and be more evident in the future. Everyone has an influence one way or another.. whether it be from actual life or from another artist.. i kno that life drawing is a necessity to improve technical skill and understanding.. but to be honest.. drawing real life subject matter isn't quite nearly as interesting to me as things from the imagination that allow me to create things in the way i want.
... but yeah, i'll keep doin what i do. man i've typed way too much.. i'll just let my work speak for itself.

-Ed

[DustinBrown]

Kwonger-

Do you usually use references for the little ethnic seams and patterns that you put in the clothing, or do you just wing it?

Like your Mexican dude...his outfit is "Mexican-looking," and if I was drawing a Mexican guy, I don't think I would know off the top of my head what Mexican clothing should look like. Id have to look at some stuff first. Just wondering of you do it the same way.

-Dustin

[0kelvin]

Awesome stuff!

I knew I recognised the style as I was looking through your pictures and when you mentioned Liquid Moon I was like, "Of course!" I'm familiar with them so I've most likely seen some of the work you've done for them before.



0kelvin

[S13Drifter]

I have to agree with what landmate posted earlier.... your line quality is awesome.

and i second the whole just do your own original stuff bit :D .

[alti]

These are some of the tightest pieces i've seen in a long time. - inspiering , clean ,, so very very clean. i like the little preliminary sketches you do before the mega detail session.

[Kwonger]

DustinBrown: most of the time i wing it and have a vague idea of what an authentic piece of clothing or pattern may look like.. for the matador piece.. i had a general idea of what his costume would look like, but no idea of the type of patterns. i found a poor reference pic on google image search... really blurry so i couldn't pick out any definate patterns to help give me inspiration. I just tried to find general areas were details would be located on a bull fighters costume n just winged the pattern from there. turned out alright.

0kelvin: thas wikked, where'd you first hear of em? yeh i've only done like 1 previous piece for em before those 3 displayed in this post.

S13Drifter: heh thx.. yeh will do. heh but a lil fan art sumtimes doesn't hurt :D

alti: yeh i don't do that as often as i should.. but heh thanks

[KingPanda]

whoa dood your art is really damn those are fucking amazing
make think about skippin realizm for awile and going back to wroking on my style T_T you have a website man?

[2cool]

Holy shit !!!!!!! Awesome ! :eek:
Very clean and nice details too . Don't you have one in full color?

[Groover McNab]

cooool

[FleX-L]

Your work could hold its own as one of the boards best, right up there with Aleksis. The best character design ive seen. Very Manga-gothic.

The Minotaur looks like the Rock, so why dont you name him Brama?

[christudor]

I think that's some of the best drawings I've seen so far on these forums. I mean, even if you've got these people standing in front of you, I'd be impressed, but the fact this is all from your imagination is simply stunning.

Keep up the good work.

[der_sAlzige]

wuah my first post

Dude you're amazing. Great Stuff!
But i have one critique. The first picture of the 'some SF fan art..'- serie has an mistake. the picture-left foot of her is
a left foot instead a right foot. ;)

compliment, and hope you understand my English. :(

[jlo]

great stuff! your line quality is excellent and your characters have a lot of gesture. i'm just dying to see one in colour!

ummm. crit? maybe a little bit of environment indication? like not enough to take away from the fact that the character is STUNNING but maybe a touch of a groundplane with rocks and shrubs or something. it just adds another level of believability to your character.

[Shadowkiller]

Nicely done man

[Kwonger]

UPDATE NOV 6

man i've been lazy... have summore character designs in the works but this'll have to do for now..

I started my first life drawing class about a month ago and these are a few of the products of up to the fifth session. still experimentin..

Excuse the poor photography.. i was in a rush.

below were about 25 - 40 min done on 18 x 24 paper... i tend to focus on certain areas...

http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/nudie2%20001.jpg

oil pastel.. dun think i pulled it off
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/nudiegroup%20001.jpg

charcoal stuff... dude resting his arm on the back of a chair
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/nudiegroup%20002.jpg

dude lying on his side
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/nudiegroup%20003.jpg

i'll have more gestures posted later... but heres one..

30 sec gesture
http://www.liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/nudiegroup%20005.jpg

Thanks a lot everyone! i'm very flattered by all your comments.

KingPanda: nope not yet.. heh hope to have one soon.

2cool: I'm a newb to any cg colourin... gonna get on that damn soon tho. I'm itchin to do some colourin.

Groover Mcnab: :D

FleX-L: heh i guess thats fitting

christudor: heh glad you like n thx!

der_sAlzige: i get what you mean.. cept i think it looks okay.. mebbe its cuz of the angle. but oh well t'sall good!

jlo: good point. cept i left them pretty empty just to bring more focus on to the character. I'll get some environment stuff out soon enough.

Shadowkiller: thanks!

cheers.

-Ed

[Rusty Red Robot]

Your designs are AWESOME and your renderings of them are FANTASTIC. I'm awestruck. Great life studies, too!

[winjer]

how did you get so good without doing life drawing before?

[Kwonger]

Charming Louse: Much thanks :D

winjer: i'd say i'm decent, err draw draw draw until things looked sorta 'right' in my head. who knows.. sometimes things just click and I love it when it happens.

-Ed

[Presence]

kwonger good to see another vancouverite around! Man this stuff is just sick, let me know if you are up for any freelance work!

[rubygenesis]

oooo nice line work Kwonger, really nice. the detail in the armor/clothing really licks =) luv it.

[die_with_honor]

your pictures made my day:chug:

[Kwonger]

small update NOV 17

presence, rubygenesis, people_are_stupid: cheers to you all! :chug: and thanks.

bleh... dunno if i'll finish this..
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/snake.jpg

teddy
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/teddy.jpg

flying fat cats... got tired of drawing muscular dudes
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/cats.jpg

quick sketch i did of the girl from underworld before the movie was released... bleh
http://liquidmoonstudios.com/Ed/kate.jpg

really gotta start doing some compositions.. been very lazy the past few weeks... more to come soon... i hope.

-Ed

[SwiftMrLobster]

heehee, that fat cat frawing is hilarious.

what do you scetch with and on? I know it sounds silly, but I recently haven't been happy with what I'm using.

[Strang]

these are soooo clean.

do you usually start out sketchy like with the underworld girl?

then clean?

or do you work clean?

-Strang

[Kwonger]

SwiftMrLobster: I sketch with scarlet red col-erase pencils and 11x14 or 14x17 Canson sketch pads. I like working with a lot of space.

Strang: I used to sketch all over the place.. something i should go back to... well it depends.. sumtimes it helps to do a lil messy thumbnails sketch of a costume before i go on to the actual pic. But normally i sketch lightly and clean as i go, if there's a line that i don't want and may distract me later on, then i'll just erase it.

-Ed

[Zebz]

Wow. I've been checking on your thread often as it's very inspiring. I really love the way you emulate the anime/capcom style. And you do clean it all up very nicely at the end. It seems very tight and well proportioned. Awesome job, dude. You've gotta get a website up and update more often.

I'm curious how you study for drawing and how your anatomy looks so nice. Do you start off drawing rather loosely? You've gotta show us some works in progress. It's always helpful to other artists (at least me) to see where things begin and end up. I really want to see the ones you struggled with so I can see how you sorted 'em out. Great, great work. Please give some of us crappier artists some insight! LoL

Ryan

PS: What's with this game X2 or whatever. I followed the links for your drawings back to that. Are you drawing the art for it?

[Mr. Personality]

You've got ridiculous amounts of game. I'm really diggin' the girl with the umbrella and the demon picture. I actually like the over-the-top muscle definition in the demon's back. The demon actually has weight and presence. Even from behind it is menacing.

Like others have mentioned, your clean line work and attention to detail makes these images stand out even more. Keep it up!

I can't believe I just noticed this thread today.

[MrFrost]

beautiful work Kwonger. I just wanted to say, you've inspired me. :D

[Nadim]

Matador:jawdrop: