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jvgig
February 14th, 2009, 10:10 AM
I have been a largely acrylic painter due mainly to its convenience, but i would like to try some paintings in oil.

I paint mainly with glazes and layering and use gel medium with acrylics to achieve the desired effect, but after looking at all of the different mediums available to oil painters, I am a bit lost. What mediums should I purchase to start with?

I have been doing some research and it seems that I need turpentine, but there seems to be a lot of considerations when deciding on which oils.

Linseed oil seems to be the "standard", but I keep reading that it causes lighter colors to yellow and it slows drying time.

Stand oil looks like it does the same thing as linseed oil, but dries faster.

Poppy oil does not yellow but takes longer to dry.

Then you have liquin mediums, a whole bunch of other ones, and various preparations of the other oils.

Any brand recommendations?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

rattsang
February 14th, 2009, 11:36 AM
I have been doing some research and it seems that I need turpentine, but there seems to be a lot of considerations when deciding on which oils.

Linseed oil seems to be the "standard", but I keep reading that it causes lighter colors to yellow and it slows drying time.

Stand oil looks like it does the same thing as linseed oil, but dries faster.

Poppy oil does not yellow but takes longer to dry.

Then you have liquin mediums, a whole bunch of other ones, and various preparations of the other oils.

Any brand recommendations?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

you canīt just add turps to oil paint and use it as a glaze. the oil in the paint is a binder, meaning it hold the pigment particles together. adding turps to this dissovles the oil (binder) leaving the pigment resting on the surface of the painting. this pigment can be rubbed off with no more than your finger.

most ppl use damar as well as turps (and sometimes oil) for glaze mediums because damar is a binder and doesnt completly dissolve in turps.

the liquin range are also good and they dry fast but be wary some of them dry looking very plasticy.

H.Evans
February 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM
Choosing transparent paint is important for glazing. Colors vary greatly in chemical make-up, and each pigment interacts with the oil binder/vehicle differently. Because of this they can range from transparent to opaque.

Some transparent colors are:
transparent oxide yellow
transparent oxide red
viridian
terre verte
Ultramarine blue
Phthalocyananine blue
Prussian blue
Ivory black
Quinacridone red

Semi-transparent:
Burnt sienna
Raw sienna

This is not a palette, just a list. Some brands have transparent, semi-transparent, semi-opaque, and opaque specification on the label. If not, you can try checking the manufacturer's website.

jvgig
February 16th, 2009, 11:24 AM
i am aware of the transparent/opaque colors in acyclic colors and while the transparent are more so than the opaque, I often find myself wanting more transparent or wanting to make opaque colors more transparent. As i have not yet ordered my paints, I do not know if the same applies to oils or if a transparent paint is all I need.

I have also read that oil is stickier than acrylic and I prefer to work with more fluid paints, so I need some way of extending the color.

Which mediums should I look into to best accomplish this? Can I get away with just linseed oil, or do I really also need poppy oil for whites/lights? What does liquin do differently?

Thanks

H.Evans
February 16th, 2009, 12:05 PM
here's a good read that may help you:
LINK (http://forum.portraitartist.com/showthread.php?t=8908)

Yeah, I would recommend cold pressed linseed oil. maybe wait on poppy oil.
Liquin is more of a drier than a medium. It dries very matte and is toxic. It coagulates in the jar if you don't use it all within 1-2 years.

If you want a softer, more workable paint consistency, you would probably prefer brands like Gamblin, Talens-Rembrandt or Michael Harding over Windsor and Newton.

Gamblin's 'Radiant white' uses poppy oil as a vehicle.