Advice on getting a certain look

[Clem111]

Hello all,

I'm still pretty new to using digital painting in general. I was wondering if anyone could give me suggestions on tools I would use in PS to achieve this look and maybe if possible a theory on the process involved in recreating this look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/2537702951_f81e1242a0_o.jpg

It looks like water color to me but when I use digital watercolors I just cannot get it to look like this. Also, one of my friends suggested I use a paper grain.. perhaps a watercolor paper one. What do you guys think? It has that really soft watercolor feel which i like.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[joeparis]

Jeez, you must be desperate, this is the fourth version I've seen of this post in three minutes!

[Clem111]

i dont see anything wrong with posting to a wider audience to get some advice. You never know who might answer. Just because you happened to see my posts because you visit the same forums doesnt mean everyone is like you. Are you policing people's posts? Do you only post your stuff on one forum and one forum only? I highly doubt it since you probably want as much exposure to your posts as possible. If you don't have anything constructive to add here why even bother replying?

[ikken]

It's wrong to post the same stuff over and over simply because this is not the most viewed forum in the world, and a lot of people are actually busy in the daytime, you know?
speaking of image - it's done in photoshop, and I remember seeing a making of something similar a few years ago;
first you lay down the basic colours, second - you start working with layers, define your highlits and shadows on separate overlay/soft light layers; I don't remember if it was inked digitally or scanned;
by the way, it has nothing in common with watercolours, and the only possible reason it has some papergrain is because it was scanned from paper.

[Clem111]

Well first off.. thanks for your advice. I appreciate your insight.

Second.. It's not like I'm posting on every single section on this forum because then it would be considered spam. I posted it twice on this forum. TWICE! I then posted on another forum that has nothing to do with this one. Am I supposed to keep track of who visits what forum and then keep in mind that I shouldnt bother them? Some people who use photoshop may not visit the painter forum and vice versa and some people might have different techniques. And I'm open to all ideas. I'm not sure what posting it during the daytime has to do with anything. It's not like I set a time limit or anything or like I demanded immediate posting. I just asked for advice. Whoever replies replies at their own leisure. How am I supposed to know this isnt the most viewed forum in the world? And does that matter to me? Maybe I thought there might be people who are willing to help and arent so uptight. Perhaps I was mistaken. Perhaps I should email my cable provider and complain that I saw the same commercial on two different channels or complain to yahoo saying i saw the same add on two different webpages.

[ikken]

It's not like I'm posting on every single section on this forum because then it would be considered spam. I posted it twice on this forum. TWICE! I then posted on another forum that has nothing to do with this one. Am I supposed to keep track of who visits what forum and then keep in mind that I shouldnt bother them? Some people who use photoshop may not visit the painter forum and vice versa and some people might have different techniques. And I'm open to all ideas. I'm not sure what posting it during the daytime has to do with anything. It's not like I set a time limit or anything or like I demanded immediate posting. I just asked for advice. Whoever replies replies at their own leisure. How am I supposed to know this isnt the most viewed forum in the world? And does that matter to me? Maybe I thought there might be people who are willing to help and arent so uptight. Perhaps I was mistaken. Perhaps I should email my cable provider and complain that I saw the same commercial on two different channels or complain to yahoo saying i saw the same add on two different webpages.
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/1f/Dramallama01.jpg

[ikken]

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=5651608#post5651608
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=5651612#post5651612

you should be really excited about this technique
I'd go to photoshop and spend some time playing with it to get the desired look, instead of copy-pasting at 4 (roughly estimated) different threads.

[Clem111]

Wow... you actually took the time to go look for my other posts and reply sarcastically without answering anything. I'm not sure why you feel the need to add anything at all. Just move on dude. Please.

[ikken]

Took the time? No
I read both forums, and I just noticed the threads on cgtalk.

[Clem111]

Dude... seriously.. you can stop now. If you don;t feel like helping then just don't post.. it's not difficult.

[joeparis]

Just because you happened to see my posts because you visit the same forums doesnt mean everyone is like you. Are you policing people's posts?
Relax.

No, I'm not policing forums. I visit a few forums in the hope that I can learn but also that I can help. If I spend some time answering someone's question in the Photoshop forum only to find later that it had already been answered in the Painter forum and possibly several others then I'm not best pleased at having wasted my time.

I'm not saying this is the case here, it is, after all, only opinions you are after but the fact remains that it is generally regarded by many (me;)) as bad manners to post the same topic all over the place. If you weren't aware of it, then you are now. Besides, if it's not an urgent problem then there is no need to flood forums for an immediate response. If you were desperate I would understand.

But you have had some responses, so, it worked. Others don't mind, obviously (or haven't noticed).

[Clem111]

What you regard as being "desparate" I call being efficient. Difference of opinion. I dont see why you would feel you are wasting your time if you had answered my questions and found that someone answered the same way. I would appreciate it just as much and shouldn't that be all that matters? You helped someone... never think it's a waste of time. I would thank you all the same. So just because you feel you wasted your time I don't .. that is IF you had answered my questions.

Two posts on ONE forum is not considered flooding IMO. Conceptarts.org and CGtalk are different entities. Now as far as positing in the PS and Painter section, I posted on both because I have both photoshop AND painter and it is fair to say that the effect theoretically should be able to reproduced in both. Now.. whether or not the process is the same is a different question. What tools someone might use in Photoshop might be different in Painter. It might be easier in one or the other. And therefore I am curious to know how someone who uses Painter would use it just as I am curious as to how someone in Photoshop might do it. So surely I am justified in posting in both since I own both programs.

If you consider two forums and 4 posts to be flooding "all over the place" then you clearly think the internet is a much smaller world than it is. Like I said, it just so happens that you visit the same forums I go to. If you didnt then it would be just 2. If you only visited the photoshop section then it would be just 1. And at no time in my original post did I request an immediate response. You are simply assuming things.

Now, really, it's been fun but if you have nothing to contribute please, and I'm asking kindly, do not post in this thread anymore.

Thanks.

[joeparis]

I'm suspect this is traditional watercolour on a relatively smooth watercolour paper or board. As mentioned in the Painter section ;), laying flat colour and overlaying a texture might give good results although some Digital Watercolor variants (Soft Broad) in Painter do give a reasonable impression of texture. Some Airbrushing too.

Can we call a truce?

[Clem111]

Thank you for your personal insight. I'll keep that in mind when I try to recreate it especially using the soft broad watercolor variant.

Truce. Have a good weekend.

[Portus]

I made a PS brush that looks like something CRMK would use in these works:

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/20229Hulk.jpg

[Clem111]

ok dude... you are fully awesome! I'll give it a try and post up results.

[Clem111]

Hi Portus,

I tried using the brush you created. I've never imported a tpl file before but when I loaded it I saw a preset added called "Brush Hard" to the Tool Preset window. I'm guessing this is the only brush you created.

I've included an image I colored using your brush but I'm not getting the same results you're getting so I may have some other settings that need tweaking.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/Untitled-1-1.jpg

When Im coloring I use very little pressure but when I go over things I get a a multiplying effect as seen in the strokes on the right. Is this expected? The strokes I'm getting don't look as crisp as yours either. Mine look very soft and streaky (like those on his neck) while yours looks more painterly with crisp edges. You can see the streakiness on his neck area and you can tell where I went over more than once. Im thinking one thing i could do is lower the sensitivity on my pen.

Here's one where I added a bit of noise to it to see waht the effect would be

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/Untitled-2.jpg

Am I doing anything wrong here?