Zeus and His Constant Illustrations

[Zeus12]

My first official sketch posted on Concept art, my friend JediNinjaMan has been a great friend in showing me this website and all a plethora of other tid-bits of information I value. Well it's no where near pleasant to the eye, but Alas it is a start.

Bring on the criticism.

http://i44.tinypic.com/igxkx4.jpg

That is my kitten Leo right below, he is adorable!
I have another kitten was well, his name is Oscar.

[jedininjaman]

Hey man just got Corel Painter IX installed 8)

Here is the link to Mentlers anatomy thread (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1159293#post1159293) He has some brilliant stuff in there and if you study it up you will improve really fast, I would break it down into segments and choose different areas to focus on, A good starting point would be some of his facial anatomy stuff.

but ya anyways you should post some more work, the biggest thing I see with the piece you showed us is that the eyes are too high on the face, and the eyes go a little too far back into the head.

here are some more links you should check out these are from mindcanymans Sb he has some very inspiring progress. With hard work and dedication to art, and with the help of the people on this forum look how far he went from being a complete beginner on page 1 in his SB (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870) to being an art teacher at a collegiate level on page 59 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870&page=59)

See you Monday keep drawing
-jedi

[Zeus12]

Here is another work, trying to improve my horrible anotomy via the Bone Doctor. Critique away my friends. :sungod:

[Zeus12]

Leg, Hopefully I am sort of improving. :sungod:

[jedininjaman]

good to see you updating, you should try drawing something with out rehatching over your original line just draw one confident definite line and don't re go over it, it will help with your drawings clarity a lot
the eye on the top left looks pretty legit keep it up man and do more than one page of these a day if you can
keep it up man
-jedi

[Zeus12]

Some more study of anatomy, I'm trying my best!

Critique away sailors! :yayca:

[jedininjaman]

shoot man that last one is a step in the right direction, nice job on cleaning up the lines and the form is pretty clear,the only thing thats a little funky are the lips the little v that they make needs to line up with each nostril, but still it looks pretty good
keep it up man
-jedi

[Dorkthrone]

I would definitely suggest looking at that thread jedininjaman posted. Keep drawing.

[Zeus12]

Another one, Critique please! :sungod:

[jedininjaman]

A picture can say about 83 words
-jedi
keep going man

[[LITTLE-FEET]]

infact there is no line in the world, and so we should see them as a small shape, no a line.

[Kim_bot]

Hey, thanks for stopping by my SB.

Hmm, try starting out your drawings with your pen set to a low opacity first to work out the general forms and then slowly get darker. I think it will help your lines look less messy.

[Zeus12]

Here are some things I squeezed in betwen schoolin' ! :sungod:

More, by later tonight :yayca:

[Zeus12]

Thanks Jedi for the tips, here is my new one.:sungod:

I know the mouth is a little off.
But, crikey I'm trying my best!

Critique away guys!
:yayca:

[George Abraham]

Hey Zeus thanx for stopping by.

I think it's good that you crit your own work too, even before others can. Add some self critique to your posts. It's the quickest way to be honest with yourself and also to get your intentions across to others, that way the critique will be inline with your energy. It will also make you face your own judgement on where dicipline may be waning or at lack.

Your shading is artistic in a way and might be pretty to look at in some way but generally you would get advice to perhaps change it. Try shading with series of lines and not zigzag strokes for instance. A comment like that might offend if the way you render is part of a personal style or something you don't want to kick.

Cheers.
Will check ya agian.
Z

[Zeus12]

Thanks Zaor, The zigzag strokes for rendering are just a bad habit I need to kick :P. Thanks!

[Janos]

'ello my hellenic friend

So first of all nice atart to a nice sketchbook. Your kitten is adorable and clearly surprised.
I like your sketches though you should try and paint symetrically, esp the skeleton looks wonky to me.
Your first face study was actually better than your last one. The facial features are just much too low on the pink one and the face and head seem disconnected. Fix that up or just post a new one.

Cheers

[Zeus12]

NinjaCatt: Thank you for the advice! :)
LittleFeet: Though I'm a little confused at what you said, thanks for the response! :)
Kimbot: Thank you, I will definitely keep this in mind with my digital works :)
Zaorr: I must improve on my line qualitity and
Janos: My Kitten is a kind fellow, my skeleton I was too lazy sucks! thank you friend for the advice ,cheers!

Here are some more sketches from today.

[Zeus12]

Work in progress! :)
Critique please! and thanks again for the comments everyone, I know there is alot better work out there.


NOTICE, I'm not trying to duplicate Mentlers Sketch, I'm just using it as a reference.

But, as Bruce Lee would say!
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times"
Not anything closely related to my sketches, but a awesome quote.
:sungod: :yayca:

[Zeus12]

another sketchbook study! :)

[David_a_ray]

Hey, thanks for dropping by my sketchbook! You've got some nice anatomy studies going on here. After I get this perspective thing down I'll be doing this kind of stuff.

[Zeus12]

:yayca: Just a quick sketch/doodle for my friend :)

Definitely didn't do well on the anatomy, but I didn't feel like giving my all. :P I'm tired!!

[Zeus12]

Oops forgot to post it! ! :nohope:

[jedininjaman]

did you forget to attach the image?
anyways your recent stuff is looking wayy cleaner
nice work man, you are progressing so rapidly
-jedi

[Zeus12]

Just doodling around with painter, trying to figure it all out.
Larger sketchbook update this weekend. :lifedrawing: :yayca: :lounge:

[Janos]

Your proportions on your faces are still not completey correct. I would suggest you try copying a master to learn from them.
Waiting for the big update.

[Zeus12]

Here is me trying the ropes of Painter 10.
I've also got PS I don't know which I should use for digital art.
It's baffling me! but alas, an update! :D (not my large weekend one) :yayca:

[Guan]

u need more reference, i also got ps to use for digital art, i like the painter since a month ago... now i am use painter to drawing and ps for more texture effect....keep it up:)

my sketch book (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126380)

[dchung]

cool studies man...about your lines.. try to be more patient with the strokes...try putting down a line going in one direction without lifting your hand off the paper and try to be sensitive to the pressure of your hand..hope thats not confusing...heh heh.. keep it up dood !

[Janos]

The general form of the head seems wrong. The skull itself should be longer and the ear lower.
Try copying a referenced pic. Just try once and if you hate it leave it.

[reme]

Heya, thanks for your comment on my sb. A critic for yours is try to tone down on the sketching lines :P

[jedininjaman]

great dedication man, you have some pretty solid advice flowing through here, master studies, and clean up those lines, really try drawing and rendering without going crazy over the paper try to look at the forms in smaller parts, it will help you render cleaner
keep it up man
-jedi

[sandeepbarot]

good work, keep sketching.

[courtyard]

Hey there! It's really obvious how hard you're working. You might feel a bit more encouraged if you start at something simpler, though...have you checked out Idiot Apathy's Peer Project (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76955) or Bumskee's Digital Painting thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...107217&page=22)? You'll find the basic shapes and techniques introduced in those threads really helpful for rendering much more complex subjects like people. Also, for training your eye, a beginner's text that a lot of people seem to love is Betty Edward's Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (http://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234635034&sr=8-1). Hope that helps!

[Zeus12]

Goodness gracious I come back from a 4 day hiatus and am ambushed with positive comments :). Honestly I'm flattered.
Notti- Thank you, I know I need to get rid of the chicken scratches.
Jedi-thanks alot my friend! you keep it up as well, you "over achiever" XD
Sandeepbarot- Thank you my friend!
Courtyard-Oh, well thank you so much for the encouragement tips/links I will definitely look at the first too. "right side of the brain was never my thing" I have a similar book however Which I will be mauling soon! :)

[Zeus12]

Couldn't get any serious work in, or any of my traditional yet.
But, here is a small one in the mean time. (sorry Janos :-P)

:)

[jedininjaman]

keep it going man, but watch the line quality it is still sketchy, and messy, try contouring with only one line
and I am hardly an over achiever, the people on here own me every day
keep it up man
-jedi

[Zeus12]

More shitty scribbles from a rainy day, minus the rain.
my Internet Games are getting to me, at least they give me Inspiration if lack of motivation (I didn't word that correctly I think).

Sigh :zzz:

*waddles off to pretend to draw*

[Zeus12]

:zzz: . . . . . so sleepy . . . . . .

[polipol]

thanks for dropping by my sb man :D, .....wow man im seeing major improvement with your recent posts... i'd suggest to try hit up and sketch some casts, they really help to improve observation and sight seeing :D... great to see you're working hard, keep at it man :)!!!

[Blythe]

Good to see you are working hard.

I think I am with everyone when I say try to clean up those lines! Draw lightly if you aren't sure.

A lot of your faces lack structure, I think you need to work on making sure you put that in from the start, even if it is just a few lines to figure out where the eyes should go, ect.

[Zeus12]

polipol- Thank you for your advance and encouragement my friend! :o)! question what is a cast ?
Blythe- Thank you, I know it's a habit that is hard to quit! Hmm, I will work on that. thank you for the advice :o)

[sandeepbarot]

I will like to see some new style of your work.

[Zeus12]

Hey CA, been drawing and not scanning, so I will update this bad boy probably around wensday or so! :) thanks for the comments and advice all!

[Janos]

hey zeus12
I am totally seeing some improvement. The faces are getting better, but one thing I noticed, something I do, too, is that on some face-on portraits the right eye seems to be higher up than the left one...

Check it.

[Melissa_Orme]

Hey ive been looking at your drawings and there really good!
im a newcomer and ive always wanted to be an artist i will hopefully one day achive this goal i havent started my drawings yet only a few old ones here and there and i think il step it up

Nice work

Melissa


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[willtiggety]

You're on the right track. I'm getting the impression that most of these studies are from other art or imagination, if that is the case one thing I recommend is drawing from life more and really looking at your subject. This will develop your eye and help you see relation ships between shapes and make the anatomy come easier. Other than that just keep drawing.

[Zeus12]

Thanks willtiggety, I'll try that some more while I'm in school before I dose off z z z z z zzz....... :zzz:

[Zeus12]

Just some more stuff I did in my sketchbook, been dozing off too much . . . . z z z z z :zzz:

[courtyard]

Great progress, Zeus! I love that portrait that's on the left-hand side of the fifth scan down in post 39.These latest scans are fantastic, too. Your progress is scary good. At this rate, I can't wait to see where you'll be in a year's time. :)

[Zeus12]

Haha, well thank you very much courtyard it is a pleasure to hear such lovely things! :) I'm currently drawing very much, and I haven't had time to update my CA, Expect some more stuff in the coming week. :)

[Zeus12]

Ugh, still been sleeping like a cow. I'm clinically in a coma, There is no other explanation for my tiredness. z z z z z .....

P.S. for my numerous fans (probably 2 or 3 ) I've been drawing a bunch in me ol' moleskin but I have yet to scan anything in (blame the coma). I'll try to launch a larger update this weekend. But, for now I give you Stinky Caesar!

[Cranberry]

Hey Zeus! Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook man! :)

You're improving a lot, that's for sure! When I look at the portraits from your first posts and then look at the more recent ones, they're a LOT better, really! Nice to see that :) Maybe try experimenting with a different method of shading? I have always been total crap with shading till I recently started drawing with a 3B pencil (in the past I always used an HB or pen etc) and the 3B works so much better for me when I look at my shading... Unless, of course, the shading with the lines is your preferred style, which doesn't look bad either in the later ones! But when you're going digital it might help you to experiment with a different kind of shading.

See you around!

[Zeus12]

Thank you Cranberry for your kindness, and advice.

just another horrible, sketch.

I sleep too much, and my mind wanders down to much useless paths.

zzzzzzz..... :zzz:

[Zeus12]

zzzzzzz...... update this week coming up (I ain't sleepin yet)

Necrooouy.

[Janos]

The profiles are quite nice, there is some meat missing at the back though. The expression is nice though. Are you going for realism? If yes, you should study some more. From foto and life!

Getting better!