LORD OF THE RINGS: ROTK THREAD

[davi]

OMG IT IS OUT

[Forge]

6:47 !!! but what are u doing behind your screen at this time :eek:

[cybercyst]

mmmm....Legolas....:p

[davi]

i'm a robot.. and when i posted that i think it was actually... eh like 3 am or something?

the clock on this forum is stupid

[davi]

ok i fixed the time snarf...

[AnarchyAo2]

I haven't seen the 2nd one yet. I missed it at the theater, and none of the video stores have it. And its not on pay-per-view! I really wanna see the 3rd on in the theater but I gotta see the 2nd one first. Btw, did you guys see the "Primetime: Behind the scenes of LOTR?" It was kinda cool to see the props and stuff.

[cybercyst]

I saw a really cool seminar at the San Diego Comic-Con last year: WETA Workshop took a guy and turned him into an orc, and also had the guy who played the main Uruk-hai and also Sauron (which kinda killed the magic of it all). They said it took ten hours to put the makeup on for the Uruk-hai. Ten hours!!! Wow. WETA is cool because they said they try to use computers as little as possible for their special effects; they rely mainly on latex/makeup and miniatures...the good ol' fashioned way!

[yoshiman1/4]

its gona b great.

[Kortez]

well my friend is seeing it the 16th.. I'm not posting this to show off that I have a nerdy friend, but he wants people to know.

He pays 40 dollar to see it the day before the premiere.. I'm seeing it for free the 18th :) hehe fools with money :)

[negativespace]

If he'd pay $50, he could've seen it last night.

[Mr. Teatime]

Really? 50 bucks? Where? I'm gonna either see it at the discount theater in february or when it comes out on video. Its sold out here for three weeks for all showings, starting at 12:00 AM the morning it comes out. AnarchyA02! How could a video store not have LOTR 2? What kind of crappy establishment are they running?!! You need to see it.

[LiL QoH]

glahhh *_* I hear in some theaters they'll play the whole 6 hours?

[macaco]

Really excited about it, especially since I get to go and see it with friends I haven't seen in a while. They got tickets for the 17th, and then realized that there was a midnight showing on the 16th... so they bought those, too. Crazy kids.

[jelanen]

*g* I think Gollum was the best actor last year. I can't wait to see the man in action again!

[cybercyst]

yeah I was really PO'd when Serkis didn't get an Oscar nod...he was awesome. I'm sure he and the movie will get Oscars for the third installment.

Is it true that Return of the King is four hours long? They'd better have an intermission...:)

[davi]

10 days

[Dan.v.D.]

lol i got a ticket for an lotr triple (all three prts in a row)

dunno if i´ll actually make it to the third part haha

[davi]

damn i wanted to do that so bad
they are playing all 3 on a super large screen with a digital cam/screen setup
omg pretty

[N D Hill]

Here at USM the avi-geeks hijacked one of our big lecture halls that had a theater-sized screen and played the extended editions to the first and second films. It was nearly nine hours of LOTR glory! I imagine when the extended edition of ROTK comes out we'll have ourselves a thirteen hour party. I just hope when we do this, we can bribe some nursing students to cathederize us. Bathroom breaks are incredably overrated.

One thing however, I really hope they give us more closure to the whole Saruman thing. I always suspected that they wouldn't include the "scouring of the shire" at the end but to not have that confrontation between Saruman and Gandalf at Isenguard is just wrong. I know, I'm sounding like an incredable geek but there are somethings you just can't mess with.

btw. How many TRUE fans do we have here? i.e. people who've read the books before even the first movie came out?

[cybercyst]

I read the books when I was 12 years old...funny thing is, I read all of them but the last few chapters of the last book, so I know how it "concludes" but not what happens after.

My favorite book is 'The Hobbit,' for some reason.

[N D Hill]

Ok. That counts...I guess. :rolleyes:

[epiphany]

im still dreaming of the helm's deep battle

[Neil]

I wonder why he never made a movie of The Hobbit. I liked that book as well and would have been a nice prequel.

[geoffd]

rumors abound stating that peter jackson MAY do the hobbit. from filmhobbit.com:

"PJ talks 'The Hobbit'
Peter Jackson has basically been the true Lord of the Lord of the Ring. With 3 epic flicks basically in the can, a wickedly huge fanbase, and a gillion bucks in his pocket.....You'd think he'd wanna distance himself from Tolkien for a while. Seems as though, he's down for one more. New Line Cinema honcho (and LOTR producer) Mark Ordeskey has been teasing people with the idea of making The Hobbit into a feature film. For those who don't know The Hobbit is the novel that came before the trilogy and follow Bilbo Baggins around on an adventure through Middle Earth. The flick would, basically, be a prequel. Ian McKellan has been quoted on saying he's been wanting this, but up until now PJ has never really commented on it at all. That is of course until now. "New Line Cinema had yet to speak to me about The Hobbit and said there were some difficulties related to the rights for the book" said Jackson "But certainly if they want to talk to me about it, I'd be keen. It would be wonderful to complete the set of films." Damn. Sounds like it just might be a go. :)"

[antihero]

I going to a triple feature...:beer:

Imagine a cinema, rent for a single purpose: To beam those three flicks in one night. I'm counting seconds as well... This will be heaven for 9 hours...

antihero

[wassermelone]

Originally posted by Exo
One thing however, I really hope they give us more closure to the whole Saruman thing. I always suspected that they wouldn't include the "scouring of the shire" at the end but to not have that confrontation between Saruman and Gandalf at Isenguard is just wrong. I know, I'm sounding like an incredable geek but there are somethings you just can't mess with.

They have that scene as the opener to ROTK according to the extras on the Two Towers Extended version DVD. They decided it would not fit the flow of the second movie to put a rather long speech scene after the Battle of Helms Deep which I would have to agree with.

-toasty =)

[Redder]

Is it out yet?

Come on hurry up!

I hate waiting.

[negativespace]

Reading the reviews, the Saruman/Gandalf confrontation scene isn't in the ROTK. Looks like you'll have to wait for the extended DVD version to see it. I think they eliminated the scene with the Mouth of Sauron as well.

[jester]

I'll be on the triple show next Tuesday, too. Anticipating and fearing it at the same time - I fear I'll fall asleep... :o ... I sleep very well in cinemas... :rolleyes: I hat it when it happens... :mad:

Jester

[Diablo™]

I wonder if they'll ever succeed :)

[N D Hill]

I've read the trilogy and the hobbit so if you're in too much suspense here's what happens

SPOILER WARNING: Frodo goes to the mount doom and forgets what he's supposed throw in the fire so he throw's Sam in the fire as he's making another teary-eyed speach.

[al-x]

Originally posted by Exo
How many TRUE fans do we have here? i.e. people who've read the books before even the first movie came out?

I'm re-reading it for the third time right now. I'm a complete Tolkien nut. Love the history of Middle Earth (Silmarillion and such stuff), very apealing to a historygeek as me.

[davi]

UNF 7

[N D Hill]

Originally posted by al-x


I'm re-reading it for the third time right now. I'm a complete Tolkien nut. Love the history of Middle Earth (Silmarillion and such stuff), very apealing to a historygeek as me.

Right on brotha!

[Redder]

Originally posted by Exo
SPOILER WARNING: Frodo goes to the mount doom and forgets what he's supposed throw in the fire so he throw's Sam in the fire as he's making another teary-eyed speach.

*** SPOILER ALERT ***

No, Frodo finds out his true father is Sauron, who was once good, and his sister is Sam. They had to dress Sam up as a man to kept Sauron from finding her.

[geoffd]

12 endings?! hmmm....

LOTR ROTK Story (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=529&ncid=529&e=6&u=/ap/20031211/ap_en_mo/film_review_lord_of_the_rings_4)

[davi]

5555555555!!!!!!!!!!!

[N D Hill]

Oh yeah. I just remembered this page of web documentaries they have at the official website. I told davi about them but I don't think gave him the link either.

http://www.lordoftherings.net/legend/video/

[N D Hill]

Okay. Return of the King is comming out at midnight tonight and I'm ready. I have my ticket and my extra strength depends.

[davi]

my pants on are fire

[JoshuaTheJames]

I TOLD you to stay away from dem women at da bus Stop!!!

(>")> -Kirby condemns those actions!

[Forge]

i've just seen it... My god! :eek: this movie is The movie...

[MrSmith]

HOLY SHIT WOW. the first 2 pale in comparison i think. it should have ended about 15 minutes earlier though. the resolution was ridiculously drawn out. other than that i was addicted to it the whole time.

GIANT ELEPHANTS ARE THE COOLEST CREATURES EVER OMG WTF!!!1111


i felt the big battle scene in Two Towers was a bit flat, but this time around....words cannot express the awesomeness. every few minutes somethings happens to top what came before.

[Nimrod]

'I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me!!!!'

Damn, my lip was twitching there at the end, I mean, I didn't know wtf was going on... I came THIS >< close to crying. But I was too happy!

[Sammy]

I nerd-nutted in my britches somethin' feirce..

[Deth Jester]

DAMNIT!! I am soo pissed!!!

I was on my way to go see it at 12:05 at nite.. and I got pulled over for speeding.. and the worst part I WASN'T even speeding!!! well I was.. I was doing 49 in a 45.. I had on cruise control too...but the cop said I was going 58! can you beleive that crap! GAH! So not only did I not get to go see the movie I got a lame ass ticket!! GAH!!!! Plus its finals week and Im stressed out!!! what next...

*deep breath*

Had to vent... thanks

peace,
-mike

[N D Hill]

I loved this movie!!!! I'm a cold-hearted, finger-waving, scowling Tolkien purist and I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!! It was incredable! The Nazgul, Shelob, Mumakil were done better than I could've imagined! Everything about it was like re-living the book. Granted there are some minor differences and cut scenes for time's sake but they don't even come close to spoiling it. We all joked a little about pooping our pants (at least i think you were joking) but battle scenes with the riders of Rohan, the Dead army, the mumakil and the fell-beasts were indescribable!...I pooed a little.

Look at me with my babling praises. See what this movie did to me? It made me...Giddy.... I'm sorry you all had to see me like this.

[davi]

this was abosuletly a perfect movie. The others look milk compaired to it.


there's only one thing i didn't like in the movie, when legolas says "a diversion". He didn't get many lines in the movie actually and the one he does say is so obvious it almost angers me.... no wait it does anger me... ROARHFYOUFUFCINGELFSIHATEYOU

[antihero]

Yes. The movie is great!
I agree on the "a diversion"-line-comment. The only thing i _really_ didn't like was how Legolas turned out. The "lets-kill-a-giant-elepahnt"-scene looks almost ridiculous... Well i know that he is a one-man-army but this seems totally out of proportion...
Well except for that i loved the movie. You've gotta dig the paths of the dead and the cave of kankra *shiver*...

[usagi yojimbo]

the line that bugged me was when eowyn said "im not a man" or whatever and stabbed the nazgul witch king guy in the face. cheesy as hell. other than that it was awesome

i just dont get the part with elrond giving aragorn that sword, i thought he couldnt leave rivendell. i dont understand why they changed that from what happened in the book (although i cant actually remember how or when the sword was reforged in the book)

[MrSmith]

"that still only counts as one" was the best line in the movie.

[Skank]

i brought extra undies for this movie...

went thru 5 pair i think....

im blown away, imma see it again this weekend

[Smeagol71]

Well, I think I'm finally ready to post now that I've had my day of rest after the midnight show Tuesday night. I think I may have needed that day just to process how good this movie was!

Un-freakin-believable! I'm at a loss for words when it comes to describing how good this film is. I know for years to come this will be my benchmark for all other movies I see. I can hear myself saying, "Well, yeah. It was good. It was no Return of the King, but it was good." LOL!

***PLEASE NOTE: MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD***



Was anyone just as creeped out as me when Shelob was silently stalking Frodo right before she jabbed him? Sheesh, that gave me chills! :eek: And the kings rallying their men...wow, talk about getting a lump in your throat. When Aragorn looks at Gandalf and says, "For Frodo!", and then turns and runs straight at the Black Gate! Just awesome. And raise your hand if you cheered out loud when Sam picked up Mr. Frodo and carried him across Mt. Doom!!!! Yes! And the conclusion had me in tears. People say this movie has "too many endings" but how else are we supposed to see things concluded? I loved the exchanges at the Grey Havens, very sad but so full of one of the major themes of these movies, true friendship.

I will go see this movie at least 2 or 3 more times, mainly to prolong the fact that cinematic history is coming to an end with the final film in this trilogy. I'm sad it's over. I only have one complaint...that I have to wait for months to see the extended version!!! LOL! I've heard it's an extra hour and 5 minutes which will make the definitive cut roughly 4 1/2 hours long!!! I'm sure that with that release it will be perfect. Jackson and the cast and crew have done something really unique and I wish the best for all of them come Academy Award time.

LONG LIVE THE SHIRE!!!! :chug:

[ihatecompulsiveliars]

Wow - I'm going to see it at 2:40 today. I'm so excited... I need to go take another cold shower.

[Redder]

Argh, I want to see it so badly but I'm injuried and can't.

Well the Gollum rapping animation will tie me over until I can...

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/gollum.php

[JoshuaTheJames]

I thought the First two had a greater sense of highs, lows and common scenes throughout the movie. This movie seemed very level to me. Even though I had a great time and will be seeing it again.

Is it unclear what I mean?? What do you guys think.

Well, to be honest when I arrived at the theater I was not completely myself... :rolleyes: :beer: -Being the last day of the semester and all...

-Joshua

I think the jackarses over at the movie awards needed to give the first and second movie a best picture nomination...those two were just as good or in my opinion even better.

[DragonGX]

I've got tickets for 4:00 tommorow :cool:

[MrSmith]

Originally posted by JOSHUATHEJAMES
[B]I thought the First two had a greater sense of highs, lows and common scenes throughout the movie. This movie seemed very level to me. Even though I had a great time and will be seeing it again.

its all just opinion, but i felt TT was most level to me. i thought ROTK steadily built up to the climax (then didnt want to end :)) FOTR was a bit anticlimactic after the big balrog scene.

but its all good. i liked how all three movies were really one story, not just three stories stuck together and called a trilogy.

[morgoth]

LOTR = OWNAGE!

and thats all I have ot say

[jmascho]

holy. fuxing. shit.

[Redder]

I got around to seeing it and it was a great movie. Wow!

Oh yeah I'm on kill number 24!

[mos667]

Why would you need to put a spoilers tag if it already has been out as a book for a while? ;)

There were a few things that made the movie for me, but also a few that didn't. First off, if you go in a theater, be curtious and don't be a dick. Movies have been ruined so many times by people who couldn't keep their mouths shut, their pants on, or their shoes on.

Something that rocked my socks definately had to be the part where the boats pulled up behind the orcs, and three heroes step out to an army of orcs. Oh sweet hell that was awesome, watching the green boys TEAR apart EVERYTHING.

Legolas is not hot, for the record. And that elephant scene was pretty rediculous. Did Gimli and Legolas count how many kills they got in the book? I was just waiting for Aragorn to say "Oh yeah? You have 47 kills? Well beat my 200, baabby"

I was also confused about something, what was going on with the king. Wasn't it in the book that he was all sick and they killed this guy and freed him or something?

This movie was pretty well made :) Good movie to see when your not seeing it in theaters (i.e. with people)

[Mr. Teatime]

I'm so excited.. I almost sure i'm gonna see it tommorow! :D

I love LOTR!

The thing with spoilers is before the show you don't know how they will show things.

[lavhoes]

Originally posted by mos667
Why would you need to put a spoilers tag if it already has been out as a book for a while? ;)

There were a few things that made the movie for me, but also a few that didn't. First off, if you go in a theater, be curtious and don't be a dick. Movies have been ruined so many times by people who couldn't keep their mouths shut, their pants on, or their shoes on.

Something that rocked my socks definately had to be the part where the boats pulled up behind the orcs, and three heroes step out to an army of orcs. Oh sweet hell that was awesome, watching the green boys TEAR apart EVERYTHING.

Legolas is not hot, for the record. And that elephant scene was pretty rediculous. Did Gimli and Legolas count how many kills they got in the book? I was just waiting for Aragorn to say "Oh yeah? You have 47 kills? Well beat my 200, baabby"

I was also confused about something, what was going on with the king. Wasn't it in the book that he was all sick and they killed this guy and freed him or something?

This movie was pretty well made :) Good movie to see when your not seeing it in theaters (i.e. with people)

Well, I know they definitely counted kills in the book at Helms Deep, but I never read RotK so I'm not sure if this is a homage or just a character continuance from what Jackson put in the Two Towers. The sickly king guy, if I'm reading you right, would be Theodon, and not Denethor the steward. Man, I hate that guy.

[benzo]

whats the deal with frotto and sam? they were way too intimate.... it was really annoying. why dont they just make out? i guess if i was a hobbit, I'd probably be gay too, cus the hobbit women look like men anyway.

:D

[mos667]

Benzo: If I was a dwarf, damn! There's no line between the sexes, even the women have beards. Lavhoes: Yeah I checked up on it, I switched up the two books (TT and ROTK). That steward is a dick. What was his deal?

[Carnifex]

just saw it today and DAMN I CAN JUST SAY!a well deserved end to the trilogy and cool as hell.my only crits would be that they cut a bit too fast for my taste in the beginning(that was better in tt) and the "king" of the undead(not the nazgul king).i mean you can see sometimes that his face is more of a skull,which is good,but they didn't do it too often.for most of the time he seems to "human" to me to be undead,and that's not a good thing.the spider scenes were cool as hell.i could imagine the slimyness of her the best when sam kicks her in the face.just like you kick into a sponge or something.slimy,soft and icky.i have read all the books,but having done it some years ago it totally surprised me to see the eagles come up.
...oh well,whatever,it was a great movie and i just can recommend it to everyone.GO WATCH ROTK NOW!:D

[jrr]

saw it today....





.........best ever.

[gasmask]

words cant describe what tolkien wrote and what peter jackson put to the screen, this series as a whole is legendary and there will never be a trilogy like this ever, that and the 3rd was better than the first 2 combined, i wish i lived it, the lord of the rings that is. hah i feel like a geek

[Johann de Venecia]

the trilogy is something that will be enjoyed by generations to come. it really is quite the masterpiece, and it would be timeless if the special effects would just stand the test of time.

great song by annie lennox too.

[davi]

i've watched the other lotr after seeing rotk, and honestly... they seem meek compaired to it. Honestly... they perfected all the flaws the other films had. gilmi isn't a cartoon character, the scenes follow so much better, gollum even appears to have even more detail than he did before.. which baffles me.... i think the must have put more time into envoriments because some of the settings are just so much richer than the other films. really makes me want them to go back and do rivendale with more effort.

[epiphany]

Just watched it this morning.man I must admit I nearly cried on some scenes.A true trilogy, each movie better than the other. I felt Frodo's pain when he was stung by th Shelob.

"that still only counts as 1!!"-Gimli

[usagi yojimbo]

gollum even appears to have even more detail than he did before.. which baffles me

i dunno, i thought his hair didnt look right, it seemed to fall through his head. i have to admit though, when sam hit him in the head with the rock i thought "id hate to be that actor!" totally forgetting he was cged

[thomasaurus]

wow.... this is definetly worth another seeing. I'd have to agree and say that ROTK blows the other two films away.

[gallon]

only thing that bother me...was (mmh, trying not to spoil for the ones that didn't see the movie/read the book...) the last scene with Gollum in the movie... that didn't look good. It's not terminator 2 after all, hehe.
Ok, did anyone see that as a spoiler ? sorry in that case...

[Carnifex]

Originally posted by usagi yojimbo


i dunno, i thought his hair didnt look right, it seemed to fall through his head. i have to admit though, when sam hit him in the head with the rock i thought "id hate to be that actor!" totally forgetting he was cged
well,he wasn't completely cged,andy serkis played him.there was a link posted earlier to a page where it is explained in a video.

[MrSmith]

gollum has been more believable than the real actors throughout the movies. they should find a way to give him best supporting actor, or make up a new category. he is pure cinematic genius and proof that cg is hear to stay.

[Pencil Soldier]

There were a few things that made the movie for me, but also a few that didn't. First off, if you go in a theater, be curtious and don't be a dick. Movies have been ruined so many times by people who couldn't keep their mouths shut

Yeah, at the end these two idiots got in a big argument and started yelling. Then the rest of the theater yelled at them to get out which didnt help.

The movie was the greatest movie i have ever seen, and will probably ever see. Ive been a fan since i read LOTR in fourth grade...and im so glad they did such a good job.

[shadow]

I just saw it, and wow, totally amazing, I think we all agree that this is one of the greatest movies of all time....wow, im guna go draw:)

[N D Hill]

Originally posted by Pencil Soldier


Yeah, at the end these two idiots got in a big argument and started yelling. Then the rest of the theater yelled at them to get out which didnt help.

Tell me about it. I hate going to evening showings simply because of stuff like that. When I went the second time we had a small group of the stupidest talkers ever. Whenever a boulder flung by the catapults would land on an orc they'd yell stuff like "YESSS!!!" "OOOOHH!!!" and "THAT HAD TO HURT!!!!" For some reason I wouldn't be supprised if the next time i saw them was on the news after they'd blown off all of the fingers with illegal firecrackers.

...I've never really contemplated the type of provocation it takes to drive a man into murderous rage. You know; where someone puts on war paint and starts hacking at people's skulls with a hatchet. I'm not going to lie to you...urges surfaced within me that I'm not proud of.

[Isric]

Originally posted by lukavi
the trilogy is something that will be enjoyed by generations to come. it really is quite the masterpiece, and it would be timeless if the special effects would just stand the test of time.


i thought about this, but i think it'll be a classic either way (we don't complain about the 'graphics' in king kong do we?).

anyway, i'm totally serious when i say that this movie changed my life.

[Redder]

Originally posted by Exo
When I went the second time we had a small group of the stupidest talkers ever.

I'll trade you. On one side I got the person who was eating a seven course meal and on the other side the never ending twitchy person. It was like being in a vibrating bed with a women who's stuffing her face with food.

[gasmask]

I'll trade you. On one side I got the person who was eating a seven course meal and on the other side the never ending twitchy person. It was like being in a vibrating bed with a women who's stuffing her face with food.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[jester]

It seems that everyone just loves ROTK and no one noticed its flaws?!

What happened to Saruman? After making him one of the arch-enemies over the first two movies, he just seems to have disappeared...

Why is the Palantir in the water at the foot of Orthanc? How did it come down?

Why are Faramir and Eowyn seemingly a couple at the end of the film?

What has become of the battle of Gandalf and the Witch King? This has been announced even in the trailer, hinted at in the first half of the movie and then... nothing!

The houses of healing scenes (you know, the hands of the king are the hands of a healer) are completely missing.

Please don't misunderstand me, I loved that film, was moved to tears when Sam sad that he can't carry the ring for Frodo, but he can carry Frodo, but this leaves a bit of a stale taste, doesn't it?

I even heard rumours that Christopher Lee didn't come to the premier parties because his part of Saruman was completely cut out - does anybody know more about this?

Jester

[shadow]

The movie would ahve been to long Jester if they incuded all those extra scenes. Christopher Lee didn't show up, but when the extended addition comes out you will see eown and faramir get together, wat happens to saruman( dont know about razing of the shire) and such. Oh and i think they cut the witch king and gandalf fight, even though it was in trailer, cause the eown scene was more important, and really cool, mabye extended edition will show it. The inconsistances were numerous, but not enough to detract from the film. The biggest one for me was frodo being stabbed in the chest or stomach with a stinger of shelob the size of a short blade and not having a scar or anything, and the fact that they never had the black Numenorean come out of the black gates at the end to talk to Aragorn:)

[WildSpruceMoose]

Tears of joy during the big battle scene outside of gondor.:cry: Simply amazing. IT is probably one of the 3 best movies I have ever seen.

[jester]

shadow, I know that the film would have been much longer and that I probably will get it all on the extended dvd. But I feel sort of being taken for a ride when all these story elements are being prepared in the film itself and then not solved. I know that it's impossible to put in everything that's in the book but I expect the film to be consistent in it self and not just going for action. It wouldn't have been a problem to shorten the battle scenes (a little) and to solve those open ends instead.

Jester

[N D Hill]

Originally posted by jester
It seems that everyone just loves ROTK and no one noticed its flaws?!

What happened to Saruman? After making him one of the arch-enemies over the first two movies, he just seems to have disappeared...

Why is the Palantir in the water at the foot of Orthanc? How did it come down?

Why are Faramir and Eowyn seemingly a couple at the end of the film?

What has become of the battle of Gandalf and the Witch King? This has been announced even in the trailer, hinted at in the first half of the movie and then... nothing!

The houses of healing scenes (you know, the hands of the king are the hands of a healer) are completely missing.

Please don't misunderstand me, I loved that film, was moved to tears when Sam sad that he can't carry the ring for Frodo, but he can carry Frodo, but this leaves a bit of a stale taste, doesn't it?

I even heard rumours that Christopher Lee didn't come to the premier parties because his part of Saruman was completely cut out - does anybody know more about this?

Jester

The easy answer to all of your questions is simply that the movie is long enough as it is. The extended edition will be an extra 55 minutes.

There was a final confrontation scene with Gandalf and Saruman where Grima throws the palantir. That's how it gets there in the book anyway. Also, in the book, Eowyn and Faramir mary eachother after Aragorn tells her that he's already spoken for. It's sort of a weird scene too. She pretty much just settles for Faramir and Faramir doesn't seem to mind. the part with Sam carrying Frodo was in the book as well. Overall, I believe this movie was more faithful to the books than even FOTR was.

The only thing I didn't quite like was how the last battle at the black gates was done. The whole transition from securing Minas Tirith to the attack on the black gates seemed a little rushed to me. I also wish that the mouth of Sauron had met them and presented frodo's mithril coat.

[negativespace]

Did Frodo have the mithril on when he got stabbed by Shelob?

[jester]

exo, thank you very much for your answer. It shows that I didn't succeed in making my state point clear.

What I tried to hint at wasn't that I didn't know how the story lines were solved in the books (I read the book for more than 13 times...) but that there were indications in the film itself that weren't properly solved in the film's context (sorry, not being a native speaker of English such topics are a bit difficult to explain).

IMO it wouldn't have made the movie that much longer if it had shown how Grima threw away the Palantir. And the confrontation between Gandalf and the Witch King was not only anticipated in the trailer but at least in two parts of the film itself. Legolas fighting the Mumak was surely impressive but nothing to take the story further. This, for example, would have made excellent material for the extended dvd version. But to show the Houses of Healing part is very important for Aragorn's role as king - I really missed that. Also, that very long scene of Bilbo, Frodo and the others departing to the west was much too long and too kitschy in my eyes.

Anyway, before you all start bashing me now ;) all three films are the best I've seen in cinemas ever, follow the spirit of Tolkien's books as truthful as possible in the media transfer from book to film and I just love it. But because I love it, it is that I'm unsatisfied with how the mentioned story problems were dealt with - even to the degree that I can't imagine these to be Peter Jackson's decisions alone but just the other producers' ideas to cater for mass taste to make it a box office success - and to soothe people like me with the extended dvd, just the way it was done with Faramir's motivation in TTT.

Jester

[WildSpruceMoose]

Anyone who worries about the inaccuracies and such should just watch the scene where the Rohirrim arrive on the battle field. The "plow" should make you never worry about things left out of the plot at all. That single scene could even redeem a movie like Street Zombies :P

[N D Hill]

What the hell's wrong with Street Zombies?! :mad:















:p

[Mr. Teatime]

:eek:

I just saw it and its the best movie i've ever seen, and that includes Star Wars 4,5,6 which were my previus favorites. This beat it by a hundred miles. I don't care if it wasn't comepltely accurate, it was brilliant. The capstone of an epic.

my rating: :D and 5 stars!

[Signature]

Saw it yesterday and I am VERY disappointed.

I guess it is made for people who read the books ... :(
I really love the game and expected too much I guess.

I saw the synchronized version though.
Maybe I'd like an extended, English version more ... but I doubt it.

[Mr. Teatime]

How can you be dissapointed?!!!


Well, i guess everyone can have there own opinions. I was dissapointed with the games.
What language was it in though?

edit- doi, german, if thats were you are from. I think the english version was good, but i cant speak for the german one.

[Orban]

I'm some kind of dissapointed too. I've finish the rereading of the third book two month ago, so I know still pretty well the story but... uhmmm... Why the fuck are we still obliged to see Arwen?
Why does Aragorn only got is sword in this opus??? Non sense too...
The passage were Sam is dismissed too... Pfff. Not to speak about what
Jester have said too!
Still, special FX is beautiful(but not really anymore a surprise, nearly the same since the second), but with some minor error... My girlfriend have seen the same glitch, and she's not an artist at all!
So yeah, a great film, but with lot of glitch - and big glitch that everyone can see(the fight between gandalf and the witch king... where???), some that only the true reader of J.R.R can see (hey? what happen to Saruman?)...
So I dunno. It's really the best adaptation of the book for now, but not the best film I've seen those last year - just one really great film(not bad:D)

[Signature]

I loved all the visual effects.
Even the scene with Legolas and the huge elephant thingie (what are they called) worked for me.
The giant spider was great. The battle scenes were all amazing.

But I didn't like most of the calmer scenes.
The role of Faramir's father ... it just wasn't convincing.
And too much time was invested for the 2 good moments
(the way Faramir looks at his burning father
and how his father runs and jumps ...)

The scene where Aragorn talks to the leader of those ghosts was wasted time as well.
I would have prefered if they had just walked in there while the story of the ghosts was told.
Their next scene should have been where the ghost army fights for the good guys.

There was so much time invested in the Aragorn/Arven story.
I was interested in how that would turn out ...
and a ten year old could have concluded it like that.

The same with the Smeagol flashback scene ...
that could have been so great ... if he had been a sane/careless person before he found the ring.
Not some braindead guy.

I guess that is taken directly from the books ... !? ...
as said ... for fans rather than people who don't know the books.

The scene where Frodo wakes up and one person enters the room after the other ...
WTF ... can't they come in as groups?

The scene about Sam's unbelievably interesting new domestic situation as final scene?
An important last impression?

But I loved the two scenes where the hobbits sang ...
kinda reminded me of Buffy OMWF
While I'm at it: http://www.omwh.com/

And Aragorn's speech as king ... in a parody thousands of people would scream:
WE CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUUU ...

Did Frodo remind anybody else of Maggie Simpson?

[RefrigeratorCo]

My favorite part... the credits. No I enjoyed the movie alright. But Allen Lee's portraits and concept art in the background of the credits = orgasmic.

[bRyaN]

Originally posted by Exo
What the hell's wrong with Street Zombies?! :mad:


I thought i was the one of the only people(besides my friends) to see Street Zombies...

[Sinix]

I'd say it was great, the ending kinda dragged it's feet tho. There was about 10 times I expected the credits to roll, yet instead it just kept going to scene after scene.

[Marcatili]

hey guys...
i have only just started reading the books now, having seen all three films.
Personally I thought that the third film was great and the trilogy brilliant when considered all together.
As someone who hasn't read the books I didn't know what was left out or added in...the story had a great flow and the characters were extremely engaging, which is more than can be said for many films, particularly fantasy films or action adventure films or whatever...
I think it will be a benchmark in moviemaking history the way Star Wars was in the old days.

I think LOTR has to be compared to other films of recent years that have had similar hype in order to see how it matches up...
The Star Wars Prequels had 20 years of hype and lead up and people, whether they were Star Wars fans or not, were sorely disappointed and I would say rightly so...
The Matrix was promising so much in it's sequel that people were expecting it to be the new Star Wars...but it's final installment was another major let down in terms of plot...

the LOTR trilogy has been consistently entertaining, engaging and exciting throughout...more than can be said for most single films around at the moment...

but whatever

[Mr. Teatime]

i loved the credits too, the art was very cool.

I thought the ending fit but dragged on to much, at least the boat with frodo and them leaving. but i liked seeing everything else they ended with. especially sam being happy cause he's one of my heroes. keep going with frodo even when frodo said he didn't need him, then carrying him up to mt. doom. very cool character. i think they did very well adapting the movie, i dont think the scouring of the shire would have fit it well.