Ladies' Poll for Gentleman's TD Topic (Ladies' votes only, please)

[alesoun]

Ladies, this is your chance to choose the topic that the gents of the forum will do. Please limit yourself to a single choice. The topics are........

Motherhood
Caring/healing
True Romance
Tea Party
Hansel & Gretel
The Peace Covoy
The Pink Tide
A Heavenly Virtue
Emotionally Exposed
The Universal Web of Life
Something in the Air/Change
Dream Within A Dream
We're Together on This
Forgiveness
Platonic Love
Emotional Scene in a Technical Environment
Loss of Innocence
Vanity Fair
Octopus Garden
Intimacy
Lies and Alibis

[alesoun]

Please also use this thread to sign up for the girls' side of the Gents' v Ladies' thunderdome, and, if you would like a child to be a component in the Gents' work, say so in this thread. Thank you.

[Lionese]

Im in!
Is the deadline defined yet?
It would be great to get some details on that.

And about the child dilema personally it suits me either way, but ill say yes on that because a child is always a trouble to potrait.

[chaosrocks]

im in,
IMHO leave the Kid element up to the artist

K thanx

[dierat]

I'm in. I vote no on the child constraint.

Lionese - I think Ilaekae said 10 weeks (from now) in the guys' thread, not sure if that's official or what.

[entdroid]

Voted! As I said before, I'm against the "include a child" rule. Besides it could be really out of place if a topic such as "Intimacy" wins :P

Edit: And I'm in of course! :)

[Asatira]

I'm in. As for the child constraint, I'm for leaving it up to the artist.

[daestwen]

I'm in, and against the child constraint.

[petitemistress]

In, ditto on the child constraint, let them run free i guess!

[Ilaekae]

To confirm, alesoun and I decided last night that 10 weeks was probably more than enough time for you crayon scribblers to get something decent together. Obviously, it's going to start pretty much after the poll is finished, but we'll make an official announcement to make it kosher anyway within 24 hours.

[Black Spot]

I'm in and I like the idea of a child being mandatory - stretch them.

[Atastrophea]

ok I'm in although I may be more of a hinderance than a help in the quest for girly supremacy ;)

I vote tea party because It would be awseome to see a manly take on that, I personaly would dislike what might be seen as a stereotypical "girly" inerpretation of that theme (ie pink frilly dolly stuff, twee etc - I know many women WOULDNT do it that way but that would maybe be the obvious feminine way of doing it)

So, I'd be really interested to see what would happen to it in the hands of men (does that make sense)

also vote NO on the must have a child, up to the artist is better I think

~^-^~

[kelly x]

Emotionally Exposed is what I voted I think the topic looks like it will be Brotherhood for us so far... and just to confirm is this girls Vs boys as a whole?? This is my first TD and I'm in if it is all girls VS all boys... read the comments on the boy thread, good hints about Brotherhood... heeheehee!!
KSBA=kick some boy ass!!!

[bluefooted]

In :) No child constraint.

[alesoun]

I'm in! (Should have said that earlier, huh?) And to confirm, Kelly, yes; it's a Thunderdome in two parts; a ladies' team and a gents' team, with the ladies voting on the gents' work, and the gents voting on the ladies work....

[DavePalumbo]

it's a Thunderdome in two parts; a ladies' team and a gents' team, with the ladies voting on the gents' work, and the gents voting on the ladies work....

I'm unclear as to what happens after that and how to balance uneven numbers in teams? I'm mostly just interested in a big brawl of a TD and like to see so many people getting into it, but I guess a little clarification wouldn't hurt on the terms because it's been pretty scattered and vague.

[Ilaekae]

The info keeps getting posted in scattered threads, Dave (we have five now), but basically...

It's a fuckin' free-for-all--male vs female with no matchup teams. The top four or five vote getters in each of the final polls are going to go against each other with the same art with either a set of judges or a second open poll to determine which side wins...that way, it doesn't matter how many are on each side. You're fighting against your own people to get into the final four or five, as well as against the other side.

This is to guarantee that we don't have slackers figuring one side will win by sheer numbers alone.

[spaztastic]

I am in... no on the Children...and can we use reference or must this all be from imagination?

[alesoun]

Yes to reference, no to the usual crimes (no plagarism, no paintovers, etc.)

[spaztastic]

Yay For Reference! :d

[RyerOrdStar]

I'm in!

I don't have access to the girl's forum yet, though, is that going to be a problem? I posted in the thread but nobody's replied yet.

[realitychek]

I'm in, voted for Emotionally Exposed :)

[DavePalumbo]

It's a fuckin' free-for-all--male vs female with no matchup teams. The top four or five vote getters in each of the final polls are going to go against each other with the same art with either a set of judges or a second open poll to determine which side wins...that way, it doesn't matter how many are on each side. You're fighting against your own people to get into the final four or five, as well as against the other side.

oh, cool, that's actually a pretty simple and balanced system, I like it

[smugbug]

I'm in, no on the child constraints and I voted for The Peace Convoy.


ETA: btw, with the announcement of the next workshop slated for March 28-31 - is this going to affect the deadlines? I intend on going to this workshop, btw.

[Clochette]

In
No child
Loss of innocence is the subject with the most potential in the guy's brain imo! ;)

[hp]

i voted for loss of innocence, no kids. i think it's a bit of a retarded constraint...it's equally easy or hard for both men and women.

and i'm in :D

[fionkell]

I am in, kid don't have to be in it etc.

voted for loss of innocence

[Ilaekae]

"ETA: btw, with the announcement of the next workshop slated for March 28-31 - is this going to affect the deadlines? I intend on going to this workshop, btw."

PatS'...

The Challenge is going to start next week as soon as the polls close. 10 weeks brings it out to somewhere between April 1-4, which is only a week after the March 28th opening of the workshop. That gives you a solid eight weeks+ to get something together in time. Just post it before you leave. At this point, 10 weeks is our maximum time frame, and we may decide to cut it back a bit anyway, so no problem either way. It DEFINITELY won't be extended though.

I figure the slowest/busiest artist here can get this done between 5 and 8 weeks, anyway, and most are gonna wait to the last minute and finish it in 3 weeks like they usually do anyway...little bastards... :P

[RyerOrdStar]

In anticipation of whatever the men choose, I think we ladies should begin preparing ourselves. It's time to put socks in our crotches, get more food on ourselves than inside, and howl at the moon! Oh, and do some research!

Let's do..what men do!
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p.s. The above video is for humorous purposes. Although I would totally do that in my spare time...so I can't say much.

[alesoun]

This challenge could be a useful addition to your portfolio for the workshop. Not the intention; but take it and run with it!

[spaztastic]

hmm, that sounds like nightwish... I wasn't paying attention to the beginning of the vid so if it's not ooops...they sounds AWESOME though.

[RyerOrdStar]

It's a band called Turisas. But they are Finnish too so I guess he sort of sounds like Marco..But no. Not Nightwish haha.

[smugbug]

"ETA: btw, with the announcement of the next workshop slated for March 28-31 - is this going to affect the deadlines? I intend on going to this workshop, btw."

PatS'...

The Challenge is going to start next week as soon as the polls close. 10 weeks brings it out to somewhere between April 1-4, which is only a week after the March 28th opening of the workshop. That gives you a solid eight weeks+ to get something together in time. Just post it before you leave. At this point, 10 weeks is our maximum time frame, and we may decide to cut it back a bit anyway, so no problem either way. It DEFINITELY won't be extended though.

I figure the slowest/busiest artist here can get this done between 5 and 8 weeks, anyway, and most are gonna wait to the last minute and finish it in 3 weeks like they usually do anyway...little bastards... :P

Thanks, man!

[spaztastic]

It's a band called Turisas. But they are Finnish too so I guess he sort of sounds like Marco..But no. Not Nightwish haha.

Sweetness I will have to check them out.

[Senira]

I'm in. Should be fun.

[shamandalie]

I'm in too~ something for my personal portfolio. :)

[Kroevyn]

Sounds fun, I'm in :)
& no to the child constraint as well.

[Lionese]

Thanks for all the deadline info guyz, i had seen some of it on the boys thread but i didnt mention it cuz i had no idea if it was official or not, but thanks dierat :heart:

And ilaekae thank you too for the great info, and its better to have it on a seperate thread so no confusions rise along. And ive heard the pool time was going to be a week no?

[Molly]

I'm in! Voted for tea party..that should get 'em thinking...

Mx

[Ilaekae]

Lionese, the poll will run a total of six days, so we have roughly five to go. Alesoun and I will post a SINGLE announcement thread just as the polls close that has all the final topic specs, deadlines, posting procedures and rules in it, just to keep people from getting too much of a head start on others. It will also concentrate the trash talk and questions in one place, where it'll be easier to keep track of. A little later, there will be a thread created for each side to post their finals in. The threads open now will just drift off to CA purgatory... :P

[Ilaekae]

...and I cant't wait for the tea party idea...I already have roughs of Daestwen and Molly in little Alice in Wonderland frilly minis with mountains of curls and hair ribbons serving tea cakes. :P:P:P

[kelly x]

Ilaekae, will it be in this "Challenge" Area?? I wanna serve tea too?!? Na!
Brother hood = two guys giving a "man hug" ha ha!! Yeah, it's just a man hug!! or football player's patting ass's?? I know, this is not the concept???

[Ilaekae]

Yeah, the whole thing will be in here (Challenge Area). Makes it easier to hose down and fumigate afterwards...

[chaosrocks]

ready for that teaparty dear?

567960

[daestwen]

...and I cant't wait for the tea party idea...I already have roughs of Daestwen and Molly in little Alice in Wonderland frilly minis with mountains of curls and hair ribbons serving tea cakes. :P:P:P


And I've got a great rough of you in full US-Army regalia fighting for your life surrounded by enemy combatants that are dying by your manly and agressive battle tactics, but you're overwhelmed because there are thousands of them and one of you and all you have to fight them with is a giant flagpoll with a ten-foot american flag splattered with blood. :D

[Ilaekae]

Is my beard blowing in the wind...or on fire? :P

[Ilaekae]

This is the list of participants as it stand now. I went back and found every possible name in all five threads, but some of them either weren't sure or didn't specifically say they were "in," so I marked them with a (?). As hard as I tried, I couldn't determine whether kagemusha22 is male or female. I'm thinking male, but if not, please alert me.

Ladies...

01. alesoun
02. Lionese
03. chaosrocks
04. dierat
05. entroid
06. Asatira
07. daestwen
08. petitemistress
09. Black Spot
10. Atastrophea
11. kelly x
12. bluefooted
13. spaztastic
14. RyerOrdStar
15. realitychek
16. PatriciaS
17. Clochette
18. hp
19. iolarnula
20. Senira
21. shamandalie
22. Kroevyn
23. Molly
24. Cookiedough (?)
25. Felicia (?)
26. Iridyse (?)
27. AriA (?)
28. AngryScientist (?)
29. Grendel Grack (?)
30. Aphotic Phoenix (?)
31. SirCalypso
32. JazzW (?)
33. Sorknes
34. FearSelf (?)
35. nonie
36. shananigan (?)
37. JessiBean (?)
38. PuppyKitten
39. mcmatz
40. White Rose
41. Linguini
42. MJ_Alcazar
43. Nike
44. Meli Hitchcock
45. applecheeks
46. Mrianna

Gentlemen...

01. Jason Rainville
02. Ilaekae
03. brewin
04. tobbA
05. Dan!
06. Carnifex
07. Earendil
08. Mark Bot
09. r.mccabe
10. donalfall
11. tompn5
12. DavePalumbo
13. Peter Coene
14. Sonaj
15. Brashen
16. Crimsonstring
17. epicnoses
18. yoitisi
19. Vulgar`
20. muzzoid
21. Kamikazebob
22. Ryuartyi
23. Slash
24. ChaoticKnight
25. archipelago
26. Matsign
27. Equality72521
28. Grief (?)
29. Burtzum (?)
30. LORD M
31. JL.Alfaro
32. VirusArtist
33. Prometheus|ANJ (?)
34. Faust
35. Sundance
36. Sepulverture (?)
37. jhgoforth
38. squidmonk3j (?)
39. carlosranna
40. corspufo
41. chriskot (?)
42. ruzkard (?)
43. bahnu
44. BuckWeisel
45. Dave_
46. Mitze
47. Serpian
48. Ryuartyi
49. Jake Kobrin
50. Straight Edge Ryan (?)
51. kenjitsu
52. Poshspice
53. Flipnastywebby
54. kagemusha22 (?) (not sure whether male or female)
55. Ian Miles (?)
56. Interceptor
57. zaorr (?)
58. serhc
59. James Wolf (?)
60. JailHouseRock2
61. Okelvin
62. AUG
63. AmishCommy
64. fedezz

[Linguini]

I'm totally in. This is exciting. :D I vote for letting the artist decide whether to include a child.

[MJ_Alcazar]

I'm in, tentatively. Depends on things out of my control at the moment. I also agree to let artist decide kid.

[chaosrocks]

Intruders!!!!!
Did you think I wouldn't Check? I said I would.
What fools these mortals be!

There are 7 males in the female voting thread. I grant that these might be undeclared females. but still presence in the girl forum is REQUIRED

The following questionable voters are in Dire Danger of Being tampatared

Serpian
DarkKnight
Fitzey
Greenflavouredink
TMBritton
Rubbadub

you have exactly 24 hours to make abject apologies. or get your Butts logged into the Girls forum or PM me if you are actually female. YOur votes will be removed. Thos eof you who are already declared on the Boys team....
(ahem Serpian had better be particularly abject

CRX

[daestwen]

RyerOrdStar is a female. She asked for permissions to the girly forum in the support thread but didn't get a reply yet. Saw that earlier in the thread somewhere.

[chaosrocks]

K
will amend

[RyerOrdStar]

Oh my. Do I sound that manly? Maybe I could infiltrate the enemy lines!

[Sorknes]

Yeah, in for sure. Kid should not be a constraint.

And Kenjitsu is very much male, for the record.

[chaosrocks]

ryerOrdStar
its not that you sound like a guy
I have no idea what you sound like
I jsut compared our voting list with the list of the Girls Forum
and your name wasn't on it. Dae said you'd applied
so I amended list
Sorry about that

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Mentioned in the original Male vs Female thread that I'm actually female. Just never signed up for the female forum for various reasons.

*Edit* And I'm in (crappy artist that I am heh, but it's good practice all the same)

[Jacob Kobryn]

hmm, that sounds like nightwish... I wasn't paying attention to the beginning of the vid so if it's not ooops...they sounds AWESOME though.

They're both slight power-ish so maybe that's why. I'm not a fan of Power-Folk metal like that though. There are some amazing folk/pagan bands though (Moonsorrow, Primordial, Eluviete, etc.), just many of them seem so cheesy and remind me of when I was a little kid playing LotR with my friends. I find most power metal in general to be cheesy. :P

I hope loss of innocence wins because I have some awesome ideas for the topic. I think that one will go over well with the men actually.

[Atastrophea]

I like nightwish but I'll admit it's because I think Tuomas is sexy as hell ;) And its good sing-along fun too. Not a fan of the new singer shes too americanised its not as interesting to listen to.

Must admit I'm suprised at the popularity of Loss of Innocence as the boyfiend pointed out to me last night avec los phone he doesn't see how that would be a particularly unusual, difficult or challenging topic for males as they are usually quite attracted to displaying the subject? or is the challenge for them to think outside the conventional male box for loss of innocence?

I'm doubly for tea party now as I cant wait to see what Ilaekae has planned lol

~^-^~

[Nike]

I'm in :)

voted for Hansel and Gretel, but I also like Tee Party and Motherhood a lot.

[daestwen]

yeh, i didn't vote for tea party because i would hate it if someone asked me to do it myself.

a_a

[Atastrophea]

lol all the more reaon to make the guys do it ;)

I would probably love to do it myself but only because I would do quirky little monsters having a tea party with art nouveau accesories and no pink frilly dolls in sight *sigh* one day I will get there and be able to recreate what I can see in my minds eye :p

~^-^~

[spaztastic]

ok so I posted the kill bill fight scene over in the gents area just letting them know what they are getting themselves into...however I have no clue how to embed vids into posts...I am afraid I just made myself look like a moronic ass...and I have another awesome vid of a chick kicking butt I wanna post but only if I know how to embed vids...any of you gals willing to help me embed a vid?....since I don't know how... Oh I voted for Heavenly Virtues, cause that would be hard for any one to depict. But Loss of innocence has a lot to go on, and doesn't mean just losing ones virginity....*ahem men*

[Meli Hitchcock]

Is it too late to sign up for this?

[kelly x]

Meli it's not to late!!

[RyerOrdStar]

I think loss of innocence is a hard topic for anyone to get truly right. It really just depends on how serious the boys will take it. As in, will they actually try to get to the heart of the theme, ie. what does innocence mean? or will they just do some scene where a little boy sees Barney humping a man.

So it really depends.

[Meli Hitchcock]

Ok, then I'm in. I could use a good challenge! :)

[nonie]

I'm in too :)

[spaztastic]

Yay Nonie:steph:

[applecheeks]

Is this the sign-up thread? Sounds awesomely fun!

Voted Platonic Love. I'd have trouble with that one. :)

[corspufo]

What the hell is an Octopus Garden? Is it literal?

[Mrianna]

I want to play. if it's ok! :3

I've been gone for too long and this will be great!

[JessiBean]

What the hell is an Octopus Garden? Is it literal?

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[Ilaekae]

I have an alternative image that would get me banned for life from CA. I'm personally kinda happy not to go there... :P

[Grendel Grack]

I think I remember Elwell educating us about erotic Japanese woodblock prints a few weeks ago....they had octopi. It's all on Wikipedia folks, I'll leave it at that.

[alesoun]

You know, out of all of them, "Lies and Alibis" is my favourite. Makes me think of a 50's full colour detective comic book for some reason......

[Taboo]

sign me the fuck up for this, i am so ready

[Ilaekae]

Ladies and Gentlemen...

I have good news and I have bad news...

The good news is that we have over a hundred people ready to kill each other and from the looks of the polls, two pretty much confirmed nice topics to go with.

The bad news is...

Due to just finding out about the high probability of A MAJOR TD starting in less than three weeks--and I mean MAJOR--we are going to have to drastically cut our deadline back to only FOUR (4) weeks from our original 8-10. Every other possibility we looked at meant either stalling off our TD for at least a couple of months, or canceling it completely. Neither felt right to me, so we're going ahead with our plans, but...

NOW WE HAVE A REAL WAR! The two sides will have ONLY roughly 4 weeks to get their entries in, and there IS NO HOPE of an extension.

We understand that this is a major change late in the game, but we've been working back and forth to resolve this now for three days, and this is the best we could come up with. I will have no problem with anyone who has to drop out because of RL problems, but those of you who do go for it, this will be a true test of pressure and competence that you can truly be proud of if you finish.

[This is being posted in every thread that deals with the TD to make sure everyone sees it. As I said above, there shouldn't be any embarrassment over having to drop out because of the drastic changes we had to make to the deadline. Our apologies for having to do it.]

[entdroid]

Well fuck it :( I'm out then...

[fedezz]

Aaaaand, I'm out :P Not gonna be able to make it with that deadline, too bad :(

[alesoun]

Sorry, guys; we do understand; maybe next year with a longer timeframe.......

[Felicia]

I am out too.
I can help with critiques if needed.

[Asatira]

:wtf: :jawdrop:

Well, I want to actually attempt to compete in something for once. I don't like the shortening of the deadline, but if I don't try, I'll never get better. So, very much a novice, but I'm in.

[Nightblue]

I've been away for a bit so please excuse my lack of grasp on reality...

Has the topic been decided yet for this one? When exactly is the new deadline?

I'd very much like to do it if it's still possible to do so.

[daestwen]

Ahm... :/

I may have to drop out for this one, since I *just* picked up some freelance work, and THEN found this deadline dropped too. :P

but i might still be able to scrape something together, so don't write me off just yet.

[Sentinel.]

Well, damn. I work nights and can draw during the day. Who the hell needs sleep?

In.

[chaosrocks]

5 bridesmaid dressed and a TD entry in 3weeks/4weeks.. sure I can do it.. I just totally cleaned my studio so I can actually see the floor!
who needs a life..it's wintertime!

[Lionese]

Fidlesticks If thats the case then im out, but ill keep an eye on the posts to see if anything has changed and ill give some critiques!
For those of you that have the time to participate i say Good Luck and happy carnage :teeth:

[spaztastic]

I am still in... That's one of the pluses to ADD is that people with it tend to do better under pressure and tight deadlines. I normally push all my CHOWS until the last 3-4 days anyway. So this should be fun!!!

[kelly x]

Hi and what is the exact start date and the exact end date?? Working my ass off here... but I want to do this!! Want to kick some guy ass across the room!?! Talk is cheap let's do this.

[corspufo]

wow, the chicks are dropping like flies. 4 weeks is MORE than enough time. *yawns and stretches, waiting for battle*

[RyerOrdStar]

Maybe the chicks have more work than the guys. In which case, we win in the long run.

[Black Spot]

Maybe the chicks have more work than the guys.

We chicks like to wear clean clothes and not just occasionally. I'm still in.

[Nike]

I'm still in, too.

[Senira]

I'm still in. The brotherhood theme sounds fun.

[Taboo]

i dont need no EXTENSIONS

i laugh in the face of the next four weeks!

[alesoun]

I voted tea party. I don't need no extensions either; my hair's too long as it is......

Woot! Woot! Can't wait!!!!

[kelly x]

I'm in...

[spaztastic]

Again I will say it just for you Corspufo I AM IN!!! Just in case you misunderstood the fact that I like a challenge, and I will do this TD while wearing my burf day suit....not what you think.... it's an actual suit...made of wool that I got for my b-day. :D (dirty minded men sheesh)

[Ilaekae]

Welcome to the Battle of the Sexes
WAR IS DECLARED!

The first epic battle of 2009 is officially on. This is no-holds-barred open warfare! The Ladies will be doing a topic chosen by the Gentlemen, and vice versa. In two weeks, we will post two new threads, One for the Ladies to post their final entry, and one for the Gentlemen. Trash talk is mandatory. Since this is officially a TD, NO WIPs should be posted, but you can share with your friends and supporters for advice and crits elsewhere or by email if you want.

OFFICIAL DEADLINE: Sunday, February 22
at 11:59 p.m. anywhere in the world
(which is roughly 12 hours after GMT time)
There will be NO extensions under any circumstances!

Topic for the Ladies to do: BROTHERHOOD

Topic for the Gentlemen to do: LOSS OF INNOCENCE

Further rules are in the Battle of the Sexes TD Official Thread (see below)
The battle has begun. Let the best woman/man win!

The Official Thread for this TD from now on is...

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=148224

This thread will be locked immediately.