Journey into greatness - 11/23/04 - let the studies commence.

[obid619]

:dead:

[Sinix]

Well, it's somewhat annoying these days, I can tell you how I'm doing it for now... hopefully it will stay working.

Get a free page at www.geocities.com. Goto the file manager for your free page and upload your images. Rename the images and change the extention from ".jpg" (or whatever) to ".txt". Copy the location url of the image... then you can come on here, make a post, hit the IMG button and paste the url.

[chudzta]

Or You can checkout www.250free.com and get your own 250 mb space per account. and you wont have to change that stubborn file type name. - chudds

[Sinix]

Originally posted by chudzta
Or You can checkout www.250free.com and get your own 250 mb space per account. and you wont have to change that stubborn file type name. - chudds

Oh yea?? I wish I woulda known that, I was wasting so much time yesterday trying to find a place to host stuff.

[talmir]

www.domaindlx.com = The best host on the web. they offer 100 megs, no bandwidth limits, no filetype limits or anything.. pure genious.. I hosted at 250free before but they cut you off at 200 meg bandwidth pr month, sucked bad imo.

These have fast registration (I did it in 4 minutes) and found the file manager to be very easy in usage..

Man I sound like some kind of advertisement.

[Signature]

Weird ... myabe it is not possible with Geocities any more?

You can try the offer from the lounge:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14589

Btw I deleted my other posts in here. You can do that too to clean the thread up a little ;)

[obid619]

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/cooguy.txt.JPG

[obid619]

here's another

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/coo.jpg

write back now.

[Ian Mack]

I like the way you're colouring those sketches. What kinda paper are you using for the markers?

Keep at it!

[obid619]

thanks for the reply!:D I use bristol paper dude. Those sketches are colored by marker. I hope i'll use photoshop soon :D. Well....gotta draw somemore :beer:

[obid619]

here is a pic from the comic book I am making. This shows one of the characters! You can bet I'll post the whole book when i'm done wit it


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http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/nother.jpg

[Famboozled]

Thank you for your post in my sketchbook thread. You have some awesome work here, the way you work with markers creates the right amount of value and your characters are dynamic and

Responding to your post, I just try to shade to create the most subtle value, for quick sketches however, I create value by how much i space out my strokes. When I draw I try to have i guess what you could call "confident" strokes. I try not to be hesistant, there are some great cross-hatching techniques shown all over conceptart.org. For practice, you could try purchasing a newsprint sketchbook, fairly large something around 16x20, and practice long straight strokes across the page. My friend whos applying for art center in the transportation design major practices drawing strokes and circles, i think it really helps.
Actually I really like your shading, the value plays out perfectly, you already have an excellent grasp of value.

Haha and yes, Ive been working on a half life 2 mod (we were expecting it to come out on sept 30) so a lot of my work was based around half life 2 environment.

[obid619]

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/stuff.jpg

[obid619]

This is the storyboard of my comic book. This page contains the first four pages. Once again, critique :D. Also that other post (the one with the blue guy and jumping guy), the blue figure was made with blue highlighter I did today durring class when I was bored haaha.

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/storyboard%201.jpg

[obid619]

how long do u guys usually do a drawing? I almost never take my time lol. I was curious how long it takes u guys:confused:

[obid619]

does n e one know a good website for anatomy studies. I think if I study that up I can start making appearances of my anatomy studies :) also i am using domain dlx to show my pics. Does anyone know how to make the actual site because I have know clue as to how I can (I read how, but it seemed tough :confused: ) All I have been using it is for uploading jpegs (and I heard they take away users that only use it domaindlx for storage) Need feed back:bash:

[PeggyChung]

hey obid619, hmm did i show u this link before? well its loomis' online book, nice stuff :D http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?cat=0

[Famboozled]

Theres actually a lot of resources here at conceptart, i learned how to draw from kchen and iwasink. If you look at iwasink's adventures at art center he talks a lot about figure drawings, theres a lot of good tips in his thread so if you get a chance check it out sometime.

[-The Swift-]

good work obid619.
i like the style you have. always take your time when drawing. as long as you don't ruch and you get the most out of a drawing as you can then that;s how long it should take. there's no set limit or anything!:D

[obid619]

thanks for the response ppl. :) the link u guys game me where great. I saw kchens awsome stuff but i kinda forgot the link, does n e one have it?

[Famboozled]

Yea dude, i cant see nothing, try adjusting the levels in photoshop or i you must outline your drawing in black pen

[obid619]

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/mo%20progres.jpg

better hopefuly?

[obid619]

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/doodlz.jpg

some doodles i did at school today. Also i think i'm drawing too light so you people can't really see my drawings very well. sorry :/ . Any way i'm aiming to getting some stars by my name. Root for me! :)

p.s. i also think i'll start this 100 heros and villains thing (I got the idea from someone from this website doing 1000 soldiers.) I'll draw 2 heros or villains a week, and hopefully post them. :)

thanks famboozled for your replies

[chudzta]

Grab a darker pencil or turn up the contrast setting.. and keep doing what you've done in the last 2 posts. Improvement will build on itself.. u know that.. lets see more :) - chudds

[obid619]

http://e.domaindlx.com/obid619/pots%20bottles%20pan.jpg

Homework for Art class that I liked. It has 3 bottles, a pot, and a pan, just in case you cant see it ;)

[-The Swift-]

cool drawing, good shapes! keep it up:)

[obid619]

thanks swift for your response and critiques. Same to you, chudzta! :cool: i'll root for you guys as long as you root for me :p

[-The Swift-]

try www.photobucket.com or you could risk www.domaindlx.com

[van]

What software are you using to scan with? Do you have photoshop or ANY program that you can use to adjust the contrast these sketches. I am having a hard time seeing everything.

[Famboozled]

man i cant see anything... usually the scanner comes with software that allows you to adjust levels have you tried ms photoeditor?

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/inking_practice.jpg

sup peoplez. I'm doin inkin practice! Getting ready to Ink my comic book :D which'll be done in about 1.5 months :).

Yes, these recent ones are darker!

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/mo_ink.jpg

Hope their decent then the recent ones! please respond.

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/chekitout.jpg

more of my stuff. I hope I can update daily :D

[Famboozled]

Its somewhat hard to tell whats going on, i think the contrast is to low, just a suggestion, maybe try doing some real life references and build yourself around what youve been able to observe, i think its wonderful that youre so persistent, I think your work is going to drastically improve with your attitude.
Keep posting.

[obid619]

I WILL IMPROVE :D

I've been drawing from as early as I can remember. Thanks for your comments people, and know that I WILL continue to draw. I used to draw a lot of anime, which I would admit, hindered my skill (not saying anime is bad or anything). But i will look more on real life studies and become a better artist :)

:bash:

My teacher showed me this book called "Drawing from Life" by George B. Bridgeman. I was SO struck at how AWSOME that book is that I ordered it online the same damn day. I'll advise all of you to check it out (i'll bet you'll want to buy it afterwords though). Famboozle, you'll like it too. It covers the human anatomy so simply, yet at the same time its complex. Trust me people CHECK IT OUT :D.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/water.jpg

Thats some watercolor stuff I should have spent more time on, but oh well. I pledge to have some stuff posted daily.
:beer:

[-The Swift-]

looking good obid, good to hear about you getting that book! it's worth it believe me! watercoulours a bit vibrant i think you need ot usemore water. good though, keep it up!

[obid619]

thanks swift. I shoulda taken more time on that, but what the hey, I decided to use the last 10 minutes of art class to good use hah. After I get a good standing on anatomy I hope to go on with other stuff like watercolor on my drawings.

here is another pic :D
http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/watyatink.jpg

[obid619]

another watercolor (yeah I need more water hah) and a pic of my own shoe. I also just got my Bridgeman's book yea! :D so i'm gonna be fiddling with that

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/nother.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/shoe.jpg

[obid619]

YES! I'm still alive! hehe. anyway i've been busy with school and stuffs, so I can't draw as much as I should be. But anyway here is more stuff. I can tell I am getting a little better day by day. Crits are always welcome. Hell there enjoyed :D

Out of my window

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/window.jpg


My Room

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/room.jpg

Doodles at School

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/skool.jpg

More doodles

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/gangsta.jpg

[Neireth]

Hey, nice stuff you got here.
Could be fun to see some more life drawing from you. Keep posting!

[chudzta]

Yea im certainly hoping that ur contrasting better on the paper than your scanner is showing. The life studies were really good. Lets see some more ref'ed stuff pal - chudds

[-The Swift-]

looking good obid, just keep it up, those life studies ae promising, keep it coming!:)

[obid619]

Thanks people. Yeah, I gotta do more life drawings and ref. On that first doodle in class, the guy's head on the lower left was a ref (kinda).

here's inking stuff. I got to work on contour though.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/inks.jpg

[obid619]

sup people. I've been busy with so much stuff at school (including my comic book) that i've been unable to take a lot of time drawing. SO...it seems that my only option right now is to do doodles in class! :bash:

face stuffs.
i'll definetly do so much stuff when i'm done with the comic book.
http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/mo_dood.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/buktot.jpg

now please be gentle :p

[obid619]

hello. me again. here is some charcoal stuff :D.

refs

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/char.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/char2.jpg

no ref


http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/char3.jpg

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/lion.jpg

Yo! gotta keep this thread alive ya know? anyway this pic was referenced from a postcard. Its nice that I spent a while on it :D

[-The Swift-]

nice work obid, the shading on the lion is nice and the first charcoal portrait is really promising!

keep it up!:)

[obid619]

thanks swift! I really am progressing though and I like progress. It takes little steps hehe.

anyway I thought it would be interesting to show you guys how my book cover looks like. I had to delete some writing on it cuz they were...um...classified haha. I also drew batman (kinda). He's my fav comic book hero, but I cant seem to draw him :*(

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/bat.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/cover2.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/cover.jpg

what sucks is that my Internet service is due next month. that means its back to 56k and SLOW upload. Um...try to keep my thread goin guys. I'll post more when i get the ISP goin thanks.

[obid619]

<phew> i thought I lost my thread :p

here's some ink practice. mind me please.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/prak.jpg

also an inked version of one of my comic book pages

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/inkstuff.jpg

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/wakzor.jpg

damn the quality sucked sory :P

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/inker.jpg

[obid619]

Hello. Haven't been on in a long while so here are a couple of doodles that I did on a notepad. I made the notepad too at school :D. Write stuff about it if ya want. I definetely will get rolling on this forum once school lightens my work load.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/jiga.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/notbook.jpg

[-The Swift-]

good work obid, the pen sketches are looking good! i just wish you had more people who new about this sketchbook! it'd give you more encouragement! i'll just have to do!

just keep at it obid, your sketches are improving :)

[obid619]

thanks swift for your compliments. more people, huh? I'll do that :D

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/budnka.jpg

A project for art class. I used a ref. I contrasted a lil in PS

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/coolguy.jpg

[obid619]

a picture of my comic book that is marked up

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/picostuff.jpg

[obid619]

its moi. some stuff i did today. i didn't spend that much time. :rolleyes: i kno i gotta spend more time tho

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap.jpg

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap2.jpg

I used a ref on the middle. I dunno why the rest of the heads won't come out as good. Darnit!

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap3.jpg

the lady is a ref and the guy is freehand. Anything you guys wanna say?

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap4.jpg

[obid619]

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap6.jpg

[insane visions]

In response to your post..many thanks for those humbling words...I went to academy of art college located in san francisco_the school is okay if you take the right instructors, but they didnt motivate me enough, and its really expensive for something I can learn by myself...


If you want to learn how to draw(well in my opinion)..you have to absorb information slowly, 1st you should learn how to draw still life and draw it with or without detail aslong as it has the likeness of the object, 2nd go draw harder objects until you get comfortable with shapes,3rd learn contrast and how it gives objects a more lifelike look, 4th learn anatomy and focus on gestures make sure you focus on movement and rythm, 5th then practice on mastering all of the things you have absorbed and implement them on your drawings..dont be afraid of exploring your own style, dont copy from someone else,but build from it....

[sperm]

cool stuff obid

[insane visions]

crap dude youre getting good...keep up the sketches....im getting worried that later on, youll be one of the people that will take my jobs...

[Oddo]

I can already see improvements from the first posts of this thread. Way to go. :).

[obid619]

Sperm: thanks man! :chug:

Insane (or Rich): I dunno...I still gots long way to go.

Oddo: Thanks a lot. I know that I have improved a lot. I must overcome the plateaus of art so I can become a good artist.

Heres somthing i did today.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap8.jpg

[insane visions]

you always have to start somewhere and if progress is detected from your work then I think the path you are taking is the right one...

[obid619]

OK. here's my proposition: I don't wanna post anymore until I get to a decent level where I see that I am improving. Who know's how long it will take. But I can bet that there will be mad updates when I feel that I have 'leveled up' as an artist. As for my challenge thread, I feel like a douche bad sorry lol. I'll keep critiquing though. good night

[sperm]

obid, part of the leveling up process is getting good feedback though. don't worry about posting things u don't think is good, because if you do, you won't get the feedback you need. besides, i see a lot of "leveling up" already ;]

[Lung_bug]

Originally posted by obid619
OK. here's my proposition: I don't wanna post anymore until I get to a decent level where I see that I am improving. Who know's how long it will take. But I can bet that there will be mad updates when I feel that I have 'leveled up' as an artist. As for my challenge thread, I feel like a douche bad sorry lol. I'll keep critiquing though. good night

now you know why i don't post more often.

most of the time it's hard to notice the improvement and there's always something that needs to be worked on. some people keep their old sketchbooks to remind themselves of the progress (i keep them too, that helped a lot through the hard times). i respect your decision and honestly think that if more people thought like this, we'd get a lot less junk around (not calling out anyone, some of my own stuff is in this category too- it's that stuff that's in no-man's land- it doesn't do anything for the artist or the viewer).

gnothi seauton, bud

[obid619]

cant update my sketches cuz of my scanner. I'm happy to say i've improved plenty (in my eyes anyway.)

sperm - I'll update a lil more when i get my scanner fixed:)

Lung - Thanks. I know that even if you or anyone doesn't update often we are still working on progress. I'm trying to get at least an hour a day of drawing :)

So....my scanner is jacked up. I did some PS stuff instead. OK it sucks (this is absolutely my first time TRYING to paint in PS). I'm not lying this is the First time. :). can anyone try giving me tips on how to start painting in PS?! please thank you! :p

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/meh.jpg

[obid619]

Hello people. havent posted some sketches in a while so...

I used PS to up the contrast cuz i usually draw really light...
Class doodle...
http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap10.jpg

Still aint finished with this one. Its the start of my first real serious sketchbook

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/renewal.jpg

I think I improved somewhat.
SUMMER TIME *ALMOST = MORE DRAWING TIME

i'm trying to use ps but its hard for me to use it...(doenst make sense...) can some1 give me some tips.

[SeraphSword]

I think in the tips & tricks forum there may be some PS tutorials. Also polykarbon.com has a tutorial section with some PS tips, and I'm sure there are many others.

I like the guys on the right in the last pic, interesting expressions.

[JackalAnubis]

I think that last post was my favorite. it kinda has a surrealist feel to the scene. It's good to see the enviroment being thought of, and you are definately improving alot.

[obid619]

thanks seraph and jackal! I hope to use PS more often in the future. I'm just taking small little steps day by day

here's one i did a while ago. I dunno if i wanna continue on it...
http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap11.jpg

[insane visions]

:O) nice

[obid619]

Rich - thanks bud :D

here is another piece that is obviously unfinished so the hands are all wrong. I thought the upper body looked a little too big. What do you think guys? Sorry I dont got no finished pieces yet. I want to work a lot on them so I can get them really good quality :P

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap12.jpg

[-The Swift-]

hey obid, haven't posted here in a while. i can certinally see a solid improvement. what you're doing is really good, trying to finish pieces to the best quality you can. this way you learn so much more than a quick sketch. having siad that, quick sketches also teach you alot. nice work obid, keep it up!

[obid619]

swift - shtanks. I decided to work hard on a single piece, instead of random doodles. Its kinda hard for me because its hard for me to pay attention to only one piece, but hey I gotta do something to get better as an artist. Maybe hopefully I can turn out to be a really great artist. But I guess I still have time :D

Here is that finished piece of my cover. I thought it was cool, but I really would like to know what you guys think of it and how I can improve on it. Be harsh even.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap13.jpg

[obid619]

sup

portrait of my bro

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap14.jpg

random stuff

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap17.jpg

inspired by unreal 2k4

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap16.jpg


art assignment - my open closet

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap15.jpg

critiques, as always, are welcome !

[steak-tron]

obid - you've got a wild imagination man, the one with the tree is nicely developed. I think every person on this board wrestles with the progress their making and the level their at (this worry pops into my head several times daily.) Something like learning to draw is a slow process, the noticable signs of progress only pop up everynow and then with lots of jaw clenching, sweat and fury interspersed between. But when you see it it's worth it. My fig. drawing teacher said everyone has an alotted number of bad drawings they have to make before it starts working. This is absolutley true and applies to everyone. (im not ragging on your work, just making a point)

just keep drawing man. iss-all good.
-:cyclops:

-besides, you can't be a pimpin' artist without making art;)

[obid619]

thanks alot steak. Your one of my biggest influences bro. I'm trying to create a style. But I believe that I have to learn the basics before I start on style. hehe. Any way progress is so damn slow its frustrating at times. But, hell, you gotta put up with it. Thats what i'm trying to do. I'm going to do some skeleton drawings soon. Then i'll do muscles, then on, and on. Trying to do a little day by day. Thanks

..AND WHATS THIS. 2 drawings in the same day?! WOW. hehe. another art assignment-hand holding object. I thought it was good for like a 30 minute sketch :D

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap18.jpg

18th FRIGGIN B-DAY TODAY WOOT:chug:

btw: can someone please tell me how to make an avatar thx :D

[van]

Looking great, obid.

As for the piece that you wanted 'harsh' criticism and suggestions: I think it looks great, but it could use some darker darks. Things are just not popping out the way they could.

[obid619]

VAN- what are darks?! lol. Yea i know what you mean. The problem is begginnning to irritate me. i'll try to improve on it thanks bud.

some mo stufz

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap19.jpg

[van]

Originally posted by obid619
VAN- what are darks?! lol. Yea i know what you mean. The problem is begginnning to irritate me. i'll try to improve on it thanks bud.


Press down on your pencil...REALLY HARD!

Hehe. Oh man, you had to ask. :)

[lupicani]

just looked through you're images, very nice development it's sooooo exciting to see that!!! Greatest feeling when things start to move forward and you're getting it ( have it). Humor filled drawings, don't loose the imagination. You're starting early, keep the patience and open mind, as all have said!!!!

[dakoscwash]

Wow Obid, you're really improving. What steak said is completely true, and I as well worry every day about where I stand. I love your drawing with the tree. You're doing good. Keep it up man.

[elboy]

Hey, I appreciated what you had to say about not wanting to post until you had a certain level of satisfaction w/ your work. That's a big reason why I don't have stuff posted, but I think I'll start once I get my scanner back. I was gonna tell you my 2 favorite pieces, then I realized that they're the same one: the finished cover (and the unfinished, work-in-progress pic of it). I can't tell if it's smudges or just a bad scan, but something's hurting the finished one. I actually like the work-in-progress pic better because there's more contrast (it's also a better scan, so that might be part of it). But like van said, I think it could use darker darks and lighter lights. more contrast in other words. but I'm telling you, the wip version is quite cool!
as far as an avatar image goes, it should be similar to posting images, just type the url in the appropriate place in the User CP. But maybe I should get an avatar image first and make sure I know what I'm talking about. Keep at it, bud. drawing that is.

[Famboozled]

WOW dude you seriously have improved, just keep it up man, god that ut 2k4 character is freakishly awesome im blwon away. Yea dude awesome work keep it up man

[-The Swift-]

hey obid! your new stuff is great, really good to see how much you've improved over such a short space in time!
i like the shades on the hand+can one! only crit would be that the can seems a little of scew.

nice work! keep at it!

:)

[obid619]

Hello me again. Thanks for all your encouragment :)

van- I don't know why I cant get very good blacks. Must be my scanner or something. Maybe i'll try to buy 6B pencils or pen my stuff to make it darker thanks

lupicani - yes. I'm taking more time. I've gotta do more anatomy so I got a lot to learn. Its frustrating, but I can definetely see lots of improvement from my past sketchbooks, so i'm kinda happy

dacoscwash - I know. he's right though. I think i'm gonna make like a million bad drawings before I make my first good drawing. Yes...i'm waiting for that good time to come (if it ever does :eek:

elboy - DUDE thanks for telling me about the avatar. As you can see i'm now sporting a da vinci avatar (i thought it was a cool one anyway). Its wierd how the finished piece didn't come out as good. I sware I think it might be because of my scanner. But I might need to work on my darks so...i'll improve on future things like that.

famboozled - thanks a lot man. You keep posting as well, cuz I know you got lots of cool stuff. It seems all my drawings are blurry cuz that unreal drawing looks a lot better on paper.

swift - thanks. Yea that coke can did look kinda wierd lol. I was pressing hard against it so I tried to make a dent feel. But I think it came out way too skewed because of the way I put it in my scanner :/ oh well dumb me.

here is a another self portrait. I didn't spend that much time, because I was trying to identify where all light sources were, so I wasnt much focused on proportion. Yes, I have a wierd head, what can I say. I still love me though hah :rolleyes: .
Yes, the right eye is wierd

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap20.jpg

[lupicani]

nice, you should try using line qaulity to show where the shadows are and such. Meaning thickness of line,no actual shading, helped me out tons. I get distracted and overwelmed as well when it comes to all there is to record. ALL IN ALL NICE TO SEE SOME NEW STUFF "HOMMIE." When you feel the need you should check out some books on charascuro." The art of value and color" ( funny professional voice)

[insane visions]

very nice

[cartoonfox]

hey man, nice stuff you got here.

i can see a huge improvement from the first couple of pages.

your faces are coming along nicley, and so is your imagination. i love some of those 'imaginative' drawings ^-^

keep up the good work, and quit playing counter strike ^-^





peace

[obid619]

lupicani - thanks homie :D . yes, shading is hard as heck, so what I thought was I should just identify where the light is hitting an object (in this case my head. I wanted to see which areas where lighter and darker). It seemed to work out alright though, and i'm learning from it. Thanks again

SHTANKS TO ALL!

Rich - thanks man!

cartoonfox - Thanks. I'm gonna post your pic ASAP. and yes...i'm trying to lay off the counterstrike and do more drawing instead.

As said earlier on one of my posts i'm gonna start making some pics of the human skeleton. Here is the skull. Referense is from good 'ol bridgeman's

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap22.jpg

Also some inks from like 2 or 3 months ago. I thought it was kinda coo

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap21.jpg

thanks guys for your encouragement! it really helps!

[lupicani]

Hombre no problem and such. I don't read very well like to look at the pictures you posted so correct if wrong but has anyone told you of "villipu's" books? Or of course there's insightfull mister " henry gray" for that educational aspect.
ohh shazamm just went online to find more for you in that realm and found this site"www.vh.org " go under human anatomy and then the "cross section" and there are some brains exposed god lov'em anything to do with the cross section visuals. you might as well take a look, didn't check whole site to see if they have any larger scale anatomy in cross section amazingness...
Did you check out that rant i said in response about Polyklietos to your crit of my cheese? check if you have not I think the " art of the contrepasto" would bennifit heck I know it still bennefits me. You'll have to google it, though didn't get to far into it. Spelling illudes me:)

you keep posting makes us all so pleased
are you pleased?
please say you are pleased

[obid619]

ugh....last month of dsl service for me = can't upload images for shit.

lupicani - thanks dude. your advice is awesome.

so i guess...no image updates for a while lol...but I still will be drawing noneoftheless. :chug:

[lupicani]

where's my hombre? que es guacamole and such stuff ??? post you...hey you gonna go to the austin thingy?
and thanks for finding rambling " cool" i though maybe it was too much tangent spotlight stealing and such!! I just wanna help...so thanks BLA!


PLEASED???

[obid619]

lupicani - i'll still try to keep at it :D

here is what I did today. I tried to incorporate my skull studies with my doodles. This way I could be having fun while i'm studying something. :D I wish i was going to austin, but I would not know anyone there :/ then i'd get lost around town and i'd freak. I'd need to have someone there to help guide me, cuz franky, thats how I am lol.

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap23.jpg

inking is harder than it looks :(

[lupicani]

obid,
I love that you are combing studies with youre imaginative sketches! great iniative !! The hands are looking stronger and much more confident:) You should try loseing up ,with some warm up exersices before you start drawing, Draw instead circles and squiggly pointlessness

oh come on!! besides the social aspects there so many benificial sides to it. Plus there will be so many people in the same shoes as yourself there!!! Don't let such an awsome opurtunity slip by... and other dramatic stuff.

[van]

Looking good, obid! If you want to go to Austin...then go....dont let your fear grip you. Grip your fear.

[cartoonfox]

hey man, that last one is nice. keep up the inking your doing great.

i'm curious though, you said a few posts up, "i'll post your pic asap"
my memory is not that good at all, so what do you meen by this?


anyway, nice stuff. and its great to see your studies are as equally important as your imagination drawings. keep it up man. you'll do great.




peace

[Summer Pudding]

I think if you settle on a single strong lightsource, it would help your form to develop. In many of your drawings the lightsource is too vague. Get some big, strong, crisp shadows in there. Etch 'em in till your fingertips turn white!!!

I hope this helps

[insane visions]

keep practicing dood....youre getting there

[obid619]

hi all. havent updated in a long while. so three pages up for tonight, which i PS'd a lil for the contrast. more to come soon. i made a bet with lung bug when i talked with him. i swore i'm not going to play games for the rest of summer and draw instead.

cartoon fox - dude i swear i'm gonna get your pic up tonight. I SwEAR IT!

lupicani - i know dude. if there was a workshop near san diego i'd go.

van - thanks :)

summer pudding - thanks. i've definetely got to focus more on light cuz i really aint that good at it. I notice that i'm defintely improving, and improving is a gradual process. thanks for your compliments.

Rich - not a dull day without you my friend. thanks :clapping2

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap24.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap26.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap25.jpg

i got a problem not finishing up pieces. why?

[dakoscwash]

Haha, don't we all? This is some kickass stuff man. It's been too long. You're definitely still improving. Keep posting.

[obid619]

dacoscwasch - thanks lots dude!

OOPS I FORGOT ONE!

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap27.jpg

[obid619]

1:20 AM time to update! haha. anyway as soon as the library is open i'm gona hurry my ass to go n study

here is the pic of the main man, CartoonFox in all his glory. sorry it took so long, but i hope you somewhat like it

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap28.jpg

Did this RIGHT AFTER seeing wes9000 awesome work. damn i love his work :ep:

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap29.jpg

some ref's from a magazine. the barbarian dude is from meh

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap30.jpg

some blah. i tried to make it look like a factory that makes super heroes :P

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap31.jpg

updates are daily from now on! until college, that is...

[van]

You have some nice stuff going on in here! :) I especially love the amount. Keep working hard.

[lupicani]

alrighty you're back

I realy enjoyed you're last post. The one with you're work in it lov'n the losening up.

[obid619]

dude wtf why isn't photobucket not working?! i mean i'm supposed to update daily dammnit!

lupicani - thanks lots.

van- thanks as well

WORK DAMNIT! i'll probably post tomorow


fuckin red X's

:machinegu X

[-The Swift-]

Nicw sketches obid! i can see some solid improvement, just keep at it! photobucket did that to me too, i think it's fixed now though

[obid619]

swift- shtanks. lots.

ok...here is what i did yesterday. i did this pencil first

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap32.jpg
then decided to ink it

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ap33.jpg

posting more :hello!: later

[van]

Pretty sweet. But the ink on the girl up in the front to the right...the mouth..it just doesnt look right.

Keep going!

[obid619]

hey ya'll

guess its time to update. yea, its only one image (lame yes yes) but i'll update more. my bro keeps reformatting the pc and shit so its so boring trying to wait for him to install the scanner. anyway, i'm starting to like studying this art stuff. and i'm getting better :scared: yes, its scary

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/finally.jpg


oh yea, how come none of my other drawings don't pop up?

[flex mathews]

nice stuff... i see a lot of improvement. keep it up.

[obid619]

OK. time to update and show off my hoes and bitches lol.

Flex - thanks a lot man. your a great influence to me. It'd be tight to draw as you do.

A fish man thingy

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/fish.jpg

random, but radical, blah

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/stufzors.jpg

mo posts soon

[davi]

i think you could be pushing your values to more extermes, you seem to be drawing very softly. If you pull of a range of values things can be made bolder and such,

[imglue]

you seem to be producing stuff very well, keep at it, the dedication is very good. fill your pages up more, and get those values, I use a B or 2B for that, but you can do whatever.
more stuff man, its getting better

[obid619]

OK...so this is what i did today :eek: I really think my scanner SUX! :shocked:

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/311.jpg

Davi - yea, thanks man. I'll try to bust out more darker lines. I have used your tips in this post.

ImGlue - your an awesome artist also. Yea, I defineetely gotta put darker lines, and fill the page up. :)

[arghmisfit]

:wazzup:

good stuff u got here

do some more anatomy studies and still lifes cant forget those...

[obid619]

argh- thanks. you cant forget about those!

QUESTION:

I JUST ENROLLED IN THE ART INSTRUCTIONS SCHOOL!. This is the first time that I think i will really improve my art. I want your opinions though, if you guys ever heard of it. The school is like one of those homeschools that they send you packets and you submit work and it will be critiqued. It seemed cool to me, and I thought (it was somewhat affordable as well), that it might improve myself. SO, I'd like to know what you guys think. Thanks

Obid :fruit:

[dakoscwash]

Are you taking this in place of college? If so, unless you really can't afford it and get financial support, I'd say it would be best that you go to college. If not just for the experience. You'll meet people that share your interests that you'll know for the rest of your life. And it's better to be taught directly by a teacher. It's also good to be comfortable with drawing in front of other people. And definitely take some figure drawing classes. This is just my opinion though. Your work is good and it can only improve. Can't wait for some more of your stuff.

[obid619]

thanks dako!

DO I HAVE ANYONE ELSE'S OPINION ABOUT MY SITUATION, AS POSTED ABOVE!!!!

thank you :lineart:

[JackalAnubis]

well I think one of the most important things to do is life drawing/painting. I don't think you'll get this at home unless you enroll in some sort of workshop. the community of a school is a great enviroment too that you won't get at home.

[liam.c]

is the art instruction school the same one that used to be called famous artests school ? where thay send you asigenments and supposedly theres professionals that crit your work and give you advice ?
if it is you might want to think about it ..
check out your local college or hit the nearest art institute and ask there about corses <alot of the artinstitutes have like sit in models weekly for figuredrawing,sorta a club really >
either way i guess if it works .. the beauty of going to school /attending a lecture/seminar/workshop is the comunity .. you get ot be around many other peole that are doing or want to do the same thing as you and thats really the most helpfull thing i can think of <kinda liek a real life CA.org

[twitch]

Hey Obid, your work is looking awesome dude. Lots of improvement over the course of time as shown here. You seem to have a keen eye for proportion and value. Not too bad with composition either.

My suggestion for you is to focus on pencil technique; work on improving your detail work. In short, keep a sharp pencil and sketch diary handy and draw all the time. :D Draw in your sleep if you can figure a way to do it.

I'd be a little hesitant about the homeschool approach to art school. The things you really need from a school experience, as Liam.c said, is community. Assignments are nice, and so are structured critiques, but the real thing to be gained in a school setting is rubbing elbows with other crazies who like to draw, piant, sculpt, whathaveyou....I'm attending the local community college, and having good folks around both at the student level and at the professorial level keeps me steeped in
the mindset of producing art. Its a very positive thing. Helps keep me regular :P

Best advice still, is keep to your path, and keep drawing and painting every day.

Twitch

[obid619]

Thanks for your opinion guys. Here is the website for that art instruction school. http://www.artists-ais.com/about/index.shtml

I kinda went in with the program, it seemed it was cool. I just really want to improve, and I figured that the program will train me in all areas of art, which i thought will be cool. I understand the need for community (like good'ol CA) and i hope that i can take graphic arts classses in college. Although, I am not planning to make art my major, i want to continue to improving my gift and to maybe put it to good use trying to get a job during college. My view of art has totally changed when i entered CA because of so many kick ass artists (especially Lung :D ). I like how so many people do studies, but frankly i get bored stiff trying to do that stuff. I also suck trying to copy stuff from magazines. it almost gets to the point of frustration because I know that I cant improve from just drawing from my imagination (although that is important too). But I figure that if I just draw for a couple of hours a day, I might just improve and get to a certain degree of goodness. Anyway enough of my dramatic speech, i'll post more stuff ASAP. My f'ing scanner is always f'd up i swear. :upset:

[obid619]

sup people. i just wanted to know if you guys know of any good comic books i can buy. I preffer those with good stories, art, and just plain kickass. One exception though is manga (not that i'm against it, its just i need a change). So, if any of you guys know of any good graphic novels and such, please tell me.

[liam.c]

metabarrons . any of the old jademan comics ..all the sincity ones hardboild enemy ace is good dnno if you ever read the old ronin story by miller but its verry good
story wise i really like planetary blade of the imortal probly one of the best art and story wise all the hellboy ones are a good read
book wise <art insperation too but no art> vurt ,snowcrash,and black company top my charts

[obid619]

liam - thanks. i'll take a look online.

SO GUYS ANYMORE SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT COMICS I SHOULD GET

[Ra Havok]

Hey Obid.

Enjoyable sketchbook. You're not a quitter, that 's for sure. :painting:
-tighten the anatomy
-vary the angles. (too much frontal views etc.)

You show some good imagination.


What comics you should get? Blacksad. It's a european comic (graphic novel, actually). One of the best there is.

[obid619]

Ra havok - thanks. nope i cant quit. anyway i'll look up blacksad, thanks for the tips as well. i totally agree.

OK! update time in ages. i just did my first OC session with flex mathews (cool guy, he is). it was fun and all but i cant really draw with my mouse heh. i will use this program more often and stuff while my scanner gets fixed. anyway if any of you guys wanna host and have an OC sessoin with moi, just go on AIM . my screenname is obid432, and we'll have fun :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/coolstuff.jpg

guess which one's are his and mine LOL!

[obid619]

hi again. scanner fixed. ! : ) : )

this one started as a project but didn't turn out to finish it. i notice that projects like these help me out lots

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/noice.jpg

also some blah from today

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/osman.jpg

defintely gotta start the studies

[flex mathews]

wow man, that first page in the last post is looking real nice. you should probably push the value a little more, bring some of those dark darks throughout.

[liam.c]

say man thats a nice update !:_) looks liek your haveing fun with it too mate !:)

[insane visions]

and yes you improved bud...thanks for letting me know the update ahead...keep me posted...peace

[arghmisfit]

looking good obid!!! i can see the improvment

keep it coming :confident

[JackalAnubis]

dood that last update was great. compared to your old sketchbook this looks like it was drawn by a whole differnt artist. keep at it!!! :muscle:

[obid619]

wow thanks guys for your updates cuz it really does push me further. no shittin either!

flex- thanks bro. i think i will push it further although i think that i dont want to push it too much so that it'll ruin the pic.

liam - thanks man. i'm trying to have more fun with this stuff. its only right ya know? just look at Lung

Rich - thanks man, i'll keep you posted

argh- thanks bud. i like improvements too.

jackal - yea i know i'm kinda excited what i hope to accomplish in my 1st serious year in drawing. i'm hoping for a lot.

ok so it really isn't daily postage, but oh well, i suppose i can update everyother day.

i just read frank miller's dark knight returns and i can just talk so much about it because of its sheer awesomeness, but i'll save it for the next post or somehting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/pwn.jpg

[liam.c]

thats the way pal !")

[obid619]

liam - thanks bro. i wanna do some more digital pics. but unfortunately all i got is a mouse. maybe i'll get a wacom someday

just some thing i made. i upped the levels in PS. i'm planning on finishing it. with school and work and all its kinda hard to work on art : / . but i'm a fighter as you all know heeh.
:bashful:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/monkey.jpg

[legacy]

"i use my hair for a mop" lol
nice man :)

[flex mathews]

getting better every time i drop by... those last few posts are great.

[obid619]

legacy - yea i'm trying to be dumb i guess heh.

flex- thanks bro

well i did some drawings and shit but i gotta post rest later cuz they are light and i gotta level it up in photoshop.

if any of you guys got tips on shading lemme know

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/head.jpg

[obid619]

here is some more crap. man its getting frustrating. it feels like as if i'm not improving at all. at times i belive that i'm actually getting worse. it may be that i'm not drawing as much (which i aint cuz school) or that i'm not looking at any references, or i just suck >:{ ...eh..i'm gonna go jump a cliff now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/wierdguy.jpg

[TARGETE]

Theres alot of energy here keep pushing man, Dont get down, take your time and take paced steps. Maybe do an anatomy page one day and an imaginative page another. Have a good time dont get fustrated, by doing you will improve without realizing it.

JP

[obid619]

targete-thanks. its hard though not to get frustrated. i know that i've improved significantly over a year but i'm in a dead state right now, that i feel i'm not improving...eh...maybe i should just suck it up...

anyway, more shit

this is a head drawing, without using reference which i thought turned out good

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/head2.jpg

and school doodles

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/skoolskribble.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/sksk2.jpg

[insane visions]

I can honestly say, youre getting better:)

[obid619]

Rich- thanks bro. always nice to hear your encouragement

Hey yall more stuff. i THINK i might have found my biggest problem in drawing. it is me not being focused or having the patience to complete one fuckin piece of study. i'm such an idiot :upset: ...cant really fix it :\

anyway here is some stuff.

head stuff

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/head3.jpg

then...some retarded blah

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/stuffsz.jpg

more retarded blah....but more time

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/ouch.jpg

[obid619]

sup yall here is a smidget . yay! almost 5000 views!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/giggles.jpg

definetly gonna do some studies now. for some reason i feel reinvigorated. cant say why really, maybe just a better attitude. anyway if you guys got any CRITIQUES about any lil thingy please be more than welcome to help a CA buddy out :^^:

[imglue]

i noticed the jump from the 1 and 3 page, your gettin better, just try and obseve more rather than concieve what you might think you see. go to coffee houses and draw ppl it helps alot

[obid619]

hey ya'll. due to major disbalances in my life right now, i will not be posting any art for a LONG time. i just wanted my CA buddies to know hehe. its just my life is really unbalanced and i need to set it in order (meaning almost no time for drawing). when i return from this horrible state, i am hoping to be a totally new artist. so...next time ya'll see me i'm gonna get mad skills people. i really dont care how long its gonna take but...i willl RETURN! hah! so thanks to all my CA buddies for their encouragements :bashful:

[JadeDragon]

Hey Obid!

That supersucks, man! Sorry to hear about that! I was gonna say, I looked thru yer sketchbook thread and I see lots of improvements. I hope you will keep going. I know life can sometimes get in the way of art-time, but I find that those moments alone chanelling the artistic impulse are almost like meditation. It clears the head of other worries and gives a release...a place to funnel any crap thats weighing you down emotionally. It's cathartic.

I hope you come through the other end of your problems stronger and recharged, ready to make some awesome artwork.

We'll be waiting here for you whenever you get back!!

Good luck pal!~~~JadeDragon

[steak-tron]

hey Obid. You've got some great pages in here -- you're well on your way to being a great artist if you put the work in and it sounds like you are. Shitty that you're leaving but do what you gotta do man. Jade put it best, concentrating on one thing can really clear your head. You'll be surprise how much you advance if you immerse yourself in drawing.
Best wishes dude.

[Madoliane]

came to return the favour since you visited my SB today.....lots of red crosses though...don't know if its my computer playing up or something your end. I'll be back !

[obid619]

Well, I kinda feel a little better now. i suppose i can update a little. anyway, i'm still not "kickass", but i'm getting there :[ . I am actually doing a lot of studies right now. i bought a drawing book called "drawing the head and figure" by jack hamm, and it is quite awesome. anyway here is some studies. the left side is stupid cuz it was blurry by the scanner. my scanner blows, so what can i do. its actually really really retarded that my images look a lot better than my crappy scans : / . anyway thanks for your input ppl. i appreciate, especially by steak and JD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/study.jpg

madoliane - well, that is wierd. maybe you should see it now..?

[Madoliane]

no red crosses !!!! :confident

Good to see you back....looking forward to more regular updates. :teeth:

[obid619]

Today, i seriously thought about how I am going regarding my art. i have made a pledge to make a schedule which includes 4 days - study anatomy/human figure, 2 days - study from life (i will attempt to go outside and draw stuff around house and park or look from ref), and 1 day to study concept art (like studying pro's). Hopefully through the course of my improvement i will include color, other materials (like pastels and oils) and perhaps even digital works (when i get good enuff i will buy a wacom, perhaps nex year). anyway, this is my first 'ok' study page. it was extensive enuff for my tastes (for now anyway). i hope to be more observant later on. anyway , here is my truly first steps towards greatness :confident


madoliane - thanks lots!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/realsb1.jpg

[obid619]

Hey CA guys. some more studies.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/realsb6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obid619/realsb5.jpg

come on guys, where are the replys? i'd appreciate some crit's :yawn:

[flex mathews]

the last few updates are looking great. the studies will pay off in no time. taking notes will help alot too. a crit: try thinking about planes more, hard and soft edges too. simplify complicated forms like heads into planes. it ll make it easier to understand how shadow falls across the form.

keep going dude.

[Madoliane]

I'm really loving your studies....I need to some of these !

[maxetormer]

You are doing really nice, I can see the progression
and its going real fast keep at it, and keep doing the
face studies, and eye studies too, they help a lot :D

[Eyal]

since I see you draw a lot of heads
or at least heads are major portion of the pages here,
here is suggestion:
draw more of them, fill everything with heads, just make them looser. less refined, less time per head, less "i want to make it look the best i can"
draw it to learn, to practice a specific you have
like the eye-nose-mouth proportion, for example.
you can draw them really loose and sketchy, just to practice the proportions of them inside an ellipse
you may get more actualy *practice done that way..

[rodrigo!]

awesome man keep practising thats the only way! :D:D

[van]

I love watching your studies, man. :)

[obid619]

I love watching your studies, man. :)

LoL, Van i'm surprised you looked. This thread is OWLD! I gotta update this shack someday. Maybe in a few months. I think I haven't posted artwork since like forever. One day, One day. :confident