most effective manikan?

[riceface]

ive tried many manikan types from stick figures to blocks.. and it always seems unatural and awkward for me. so i usually just draw ovals for everything in a loose sketchy fashion for my frame work.

im interested in seeing how other artist start off their work, and maybe theres better ways and accurate ways of doing the frame of a human.

heres what mine look like when i start drawing a character

[bhanu]

I dont see much wrong in your sketches . YOu seem to be thinking in blocks even though you draw ovals. If you are render it later, its a superb approach. But the legs seem to lose that shape..they just look like lines.

I am a line artist when drawing..I only think about the design so I almost never draw any blocks or ovals, but I do think about them, I first think blocks then ovals, blocks help with the perspective part and oval give it a natural gestural.
Some teachers tell us to start from conceptualising the rib cage first (both in blocks and ovals) and then build the whole figure round.

[vandalrat]

Despite all the hate it receives, I think "Poser" is the best mannekin.

http://my.smithmicro.com/mac/poser/index.html

Used with this figures

http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/main-figures/victoria-4-2?item=4783&cat=837&_m=d

http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/main-figures/michael-4-base?item=7877&cat=837&_m=d

You can even throw some muscles maps in the woman
http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/-/victoria-4-2?item=5252&_m=d

[riceface]

wow that seems pretty cool, i saw a 3d program that was suppose to replace life drawing.. seems pretty dam cool

i also bought this,

http://www.dickblick.com/zz216/00/

anyone wanna post their manikans? and yeah i start off with the rib cage too

p.s. im not asking for critiqs,

[riceface]

I dont see much wrong in your sketches . YOu seem to be thinking in blocks even though you draw ovals. If you are render it later, its a superb approach. But the legs seem to lose that shape..they just look like lines.

I am a line artist when drawing..I only think about the design so I almost never draw any blocks or ovals, but I do think about them, I first think blocks then ovals, blocks help with the perspective part and oval give it a natural gestural.
Some teachers tell us to start from conceptualising the rib cage first (both in blocks and ovals) and then build the whole figure round.

wow ur way seems crazy, from ur sketch book. i dont think i could draw like that without planing it out first.

[vandalrat]

No 3D program can replace life drawing, in fact you should have done lots of life drawing before using the program, you still got to pose the guy and the program has no sense of weigth, gravity or balance, it does have some of those but for some reason it never manages to balance figures in a natural way.

Also, their muscles bend in unnatural ways due to rigging limitations, so one would need human figure knowledge to fix/avoid those.

[CCThrom]

Your way of blocking in a figure is pretty similar to my way as well. When I'm trying to construct a more complicated pose, I'll move over to sphere-and-cylinder type construction.

[bhanu]

wow ur way seems crazy, from ur sketch book.
seconded, I am prolly not someone to learn from in terms of those basics.hahahah