Tablet education

[Danisuki]

Hello,

Im 19 years old form germany. I LOVE concept art. I LOVE drawing and Painting on tablets. AND I LOVE ART.

Anyway, there are also parts of art I really do not enjoy that much. One of them would be painting with oil paint and another one would be sculpting. Also art history doesnt really apply to me.

I am searching for a Atelier, University in Europe which could provide a education including Drawing, sketching, painting etc on tablet pcs for the greatest part, also if I dont really mind using a real pencil. :) Anyway I was looking at different graphic design universities and I havent really found what I am looking for.

For my future I am planning on becomming a concept artist, graphic artist or something very similar and in that direction. This is what I really want to do in my life.

I have a High School Diploma and a IB Diploma. I have a pilot license and I am a State-Checked Ski instructor. So I really enjoy teaching and being tought.

Does anybody have an Idea on where to get such an education(in europe) based on the use of tablet pcs, and using most of the Time sketching, drawing or painting different assignments or things I just want to paint or draw and then recieving help on how to improve.

Thank you so much in advance if anybody knows of a suitable university, school or Atelier.

PS: Costs dont matter.

[Mirana]

Also art history doesnt really apply to me.

Very much painfully incorrect. Painting and sculpting are also of high value to what you want to do.

I can't tell you about euro art schools, but I think it might be impossible to find a school that focuses on tablet-only teaching. The tablet is just a tool and art school is about teaching you multiple tools (all of which help you become a better artist and enhance your digital work). Concept work is done in more than just digital mediums and most all concept artists work with traditional materials as well. Have an open mind.

[Flake]

Also art history doesnt really apply to me.


Do you mean "appeal"?.

What happens when the art director tells you "It's good but make it a bit more like Mucha or Beardsley.."

[sjmarshy]

I know that here in the UK it would be dificult to find a university focussing on tablet pc's. I know in my Graphic Design course that Art History is a part of it, and also we are encouraged to go about things in many different ways, though you are allowed to use tablet pc's if you do so wish.
Really, I think you should broaden your horizens and just go for a good course.
haha Flake, google is always an option :)

[lowercase]

What happens when the art director tells you "It's good but make it a bit more like Mucha or Beardsley.."

Like sjmarshy noted, teh interwebz.
People around here seem to be under the impression that you have to take an entire course on a broad subject in order to understand one small piece of information.

[Mirana]

Kids around here seem to be under the impression that the interwebz is the end all be all and in the meantime they don't have to bother with learning stuff they don't want to. Then they make posts about how they had this great idea and found out it was already done before... :P

You don't learn about ART without HISTORY. Without knowing where it's been, why and how you are the next step in that line. But I'm sure wikipedia will tell you all about that.

(Disclaimer: I'm a "kid" myself and have always adored history in any form anyway.)

[Flake]

"Military history is stupid and boring, I can be just as good an officer without studying those who fought, and won or lost actual battles before"

"Literary history is stupid and boring, I can be just as good a writer without studying people who wrote great or bad novels"

"Art history is stupid and boring. I can be just as good an artist without studying those who refined the process of making art before me, I really like to re-invent the wheel."

All these sentences are silly. While a historical overview of what you are trying to do is not always essential it will never be a bad thing.

Knowledge is good.

[sjmarshy]

Oh I completely agree about Art History making a fantastic and pretty much vital foundation to any artist, but I was making the point that in that situation, google would be very useful. To substitute a whole background of knowledge with the odd check of wikipedia would almost certainly reduce your oppurtunities. I also have a love of history...I'm not amazingly clued up about everything, but I have my (granted, small) areas of speciality from general interest in them.

[Elwell]

Also art history doesnt really apply to me.
Fail.

[Danisuki]

I dont understand why you are getting at the way I write things. I am GERMAN! English is not my first language. It isnt even my second. I am trying my best. And all I recieve are comments like "fail". Thank you VERY Much...

I am not interested in Art history. SO?

I am a ski teacher, and a Pilot. And I actually dont know so much about the history of Skiing or Flying. Does it make me a worse teacher? I dont think it does. It just limites the things I can talk about. Also I am not saying that I wont do anything but working on a tablet. I just dont like working with oil colours and scultping. I like learning about perspectives, lighting, drawing skills etc. I really want to be an Artist. It is my Passion. And I really dont see the point why I need to know the history. I respect Art a lot. But actually I am not facisnated by older works at all. Not at all.. really.

I just want to become an Artist. Ive been posting on this forum as I thought that theres a CHANCE of me getting some decent feedback on what course I should study and where in order for me to be prepared for painting concept art... But it looks like I have found a society where outsiders and newcomers, as well as people interested in the subject, trying to find out more about it (in the sense how its done... NOT THE HISTORY) are not accepted. Its sad I think...


I will have to try my luck somewhere else. As clearly, the feedback I get here, for trying to be as honest as possible, is just breaking me down...

I just asked for help... nothing more.

[Mirana]

Your English is perfect. Nobody mocked that, Flake just asked if there was a misunderstanding in a word used (which apparently there was not). Elwell's "fail" comment had to do with content, not language.

I am a ski teacher, and a Pilot. And I actually dont know so much about the history of Skiing or Flying. Does it make me a worse teacher?

You are not inventing a new ski sport, you are not figuring out how to build the next great flying machine or aerial display. You are just parroting back the limited knowledge passed on to you. To be a successful CONCEPT ARTIST you need to be able to CREATE NEW STUFF. To do that, you need to know your history to see where art has been, get inspiration, connect with your audience, make statements, build on things, etc. etc! If you want to just be joe artist that does copies of photos or straight-up observational work, then your need for art history is probably lessened. You aren't asking to do that.

Does it make sense now? No? It probably will once you start studying and ALL art schools require Art History (mine required NINE classes alone). If you don't want to be miserable during that experience (and you will if you go in hating it) then have an open mind. You might find that history IS extremely fascinating. Trust that artists much older and learned than you who established these requirements might actually know what they're doing sometimes.

Second that on painting and sculpting. They can be deceptively unpleasant when you start out b/c you aren't good at them (and you may not remember what it was like when you first started drawing to be able to compare the practice involved). The more you do the more you might find enjoyment. I hated working on 3D works, but when I got to sculpt my first maquette I was in heaven. I can't get enough of sculpting now (still not so great on the oils, but man I'd like to try again).

I thought that theres a CHANCE of me getting some decent feedback on what course I should study and where in order for me to be prepared for painting concept art

You are. We're just pretty blunt about it, especially with someone making false assumptions. This site is about learning. One of the responders to this thread is actually a professor at a prestigious art school...and it isn't me ;).

I will have to try my luck somewhere else.

Good luck.