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Clock
December 1st, 2008, 10:54 PM
Er, well, hello everyone. I'm new at this forum, although I've been stalking here for a while. :bashful: Anyway, enough introductions.

I'm a senior in high school with dreams of becoming an animator, so naturally I've been taking art classes and am now applying to art schools. One of my choices is Cal Arts, along with Ringling and Art Center. I'm planning on applying for character animation at Cal Arts, but I've heard tons of different things about what the school is looking for.

Allow me to explain. One of the first people I met who went there was a woman who now works at Cartoon Network, who took a look at my drawings and said they're good, but to take more life drawing classes. (I'm taking Figure Drawing at the moment, so it's all good.) Next, I met an animator who went there in the 90's, around the time Hanna Barbera was becoming popular with the school again. He looked at some of my character design drawings and said if I had that along with figure drawing/life drawing stuff, they'd love me. Finally, I went to National Portfolio Review Day, where I had enough time to only look at 2 schools. Naturally I went to Ringling first, and they, too, liked my life drawings and gave me constructive criticism, said how kick-butt their school was, etc.

But then there's the Cal Arts rep. I waited -2- hours to talk to this guy, who is a figure drawing teacher. It was most likely the fatigue, but his advice was... pretty harsh. In fact, it wasn't very constructive or helpful at all. Now I'm not trying to say that he's evil or bad for being the ONLY person so far to give me negative reviews, but seriously, a lot of what he said was about him, and how he got in, etc. He told me to use more color in my figure drawing stuff (which was actually helpful advice), but then he had to sort of... admit I could draw.

Now I'm kind of confused about what Cal Arts wants. I'm definitely pumping up my figure drawing pieces, but do they seriously want drop-dead gorgeous work with tons of color and be amazingly perfect and detailed, or do they want someone who understands anatomy and animation and is more about the character design side of animation? I feel like applying for character animation is more like illustration to them than it is to me.

Bill
December 1st, 2008, 11:00 PM
Have you posted anything here? If you put some stuff in a sketchbook thread and added a link to this post it might help. I'd be curious to your stuff, although I didn't go to either school.

Clock
December 1st, 2008, 11:08 PM
Well, here, I've uploaded some stuff onto ImageShack. Most of these are sketches.


http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3946/realismsaumuvg3.png
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1979/goramugogj7.png
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/209/someleopardwe8.png
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1719/rockpsdu5.png
(Lulz, a lot of my doodles on my computer are more animal-related than human related.)

dguy
December 2nd, 2008, 03:00 AM
Cal Arts by far is the most prestigious animation school in the country. So don't take their criticism too hard. Think of them as the Harvard of animation school, your work maybe great for you average schools, but Cal Arts standards are way higher.

I would suggest giving them the best works you can possibly produced. Because you are competing with the best of the best to get into Cal Arts.

And no offense but the samples you showed in your portfolio is not Cal Arts quality . You should google "cal arts portfolio accepted" to get a better idea of the caliber of work needed to get in. And second, most people do not get into Cal Arts their first try.

Clock
December 2nd, 2008, 09:58 AM
And no offense but the samples you showed in your portfolio is not Cal Arts quality . You should google "cal arts portfolio accepted" to get a better idea of the caliber of work needed to get in. And second, most people do not get into Cal Arts their first try.

Ahaha. I think you might've gotten the wrong impression from what I posted. Those are just doodles I have on my computer that I've been working on. :B Obviously they're not finished, as I plan on doing a few of them on actual paper, probably with paints or markers. I would've uploaded some of my figure drawing stuff, only my scanner couldn't be smaller. :S

Anyway, thank you for the advice. :D I'd type more but I've got to run. Sorry!

rpace
December 2nd, 2008, 02:25 PM
Digital pics of life drawings should be fine -- post 'em!

~R

James.C
December 2nd, 2008, 07:11 PM
Listen to the Cal Arts representative!