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FightingSeraph
November 29th, 2008, 02:54 PM
Which movies that you think didn't live up to the hype they got. Post them here if you want.

FourTonMantis
November 29th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Transformers
Iron Man
Hancock (started out great, but ended kind of lame)

nickmarshallvfx
November 29th, 2008, 04:08 PM
X-Men III - The Last Stand?

Mock
November 29th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Twilight.

For the love of Jemima, what an overrated piece of crap. I can't wait until it passes and I don't have to hear about it somewhere on every forum I frequent.

FightingSeraph
November 29th, 2008, 07:08 PM
1. Ghost in the Shell: Even though Masamune Shirow is a great robot designer, I found this movie to be boring as hell. Sure the animation was nice, and one of the guys from the 80s sitcom Night Court did some of the voices; but this was about as entertaining as watching tumbleweed roll around.

2. Princess Mononoke: What's the big deal!? I find Hayao Miyazaki's stuff flat and hollow, and the fact this has gotten rave reviews over Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is just revolting. Sure it was violent, but so is Fist of the North Star (which was actually entertaining). I've seen better character development in the Gradius anime and a better plot in Jack Frost 2: Revenge of the Killer Mutant Snowman.

3. Dogma: I blame the ending for this, but the rest of this movie was pretty damn dull. This is why I usually stay away from Kevin Smith's movies (although I did like Clerks and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back).

4. Transformers the Movie (1986): I know a lot of you will hate me for including this, but even though I did like it; it just wasn't very entertaining. As the Transformers, it suceeded; as a movie it failed miserably. Of course I blame the writers for that.

5. Shrek the Third: I liked the first two Shrek movies, but this was just awful. This is why I think that Shrek is a greedy, pointless franchise that exists to produce generic cash-in sequels. Even though I like Mike Myers and Eddie Murphy, this was just too much of the same.

6. X-Men 3: The Last Stand: David Hayter, who co-wrote these, stopped being cool after X2, and aside from Juggernaut; this was just boring as hell to watch. Throw in the fact that Jean Grey was no longer cool, and Wolverine is the most overused character of all the X-Men in the comics. At least they ended the X-Men films with this instead of making a fourth one.

7. Ferris Bueller's Day Off

8. Epic Movie: Even though I liked Scary Movie, this was droll and reeked of cash-in.

9. Young Frankenstein: I like Mel Brooks, but this film didn't live up the hype around it. I'll take Spaceballs or Robin Hood: Men in Tights any day.

10. The Simpsons Movie: Sure this had a few funny moments, but I'm siding with those who are tired of the Simpsons. Then again, Family Guy and Futurama aren't that better.

Demo
November 29th, 2008, 11:01 PM
Yah i agree Hancock wasnt that great but i still thought i was worth a watch maybey not a second for a while but the ending was maybe the better ending to some super hero movies iv seen

Twilight....my girlfriend dragged me kicking and screaming to this and it was extreemly over rated . not bad but over rated i swaer their was 300 13 year old girls their and everytime one of the vampires came on screen they would clap for 5mins straight... best part of the movie at the end durring the fight sceen the sound whet out in the movie theater and most of the 13 yr olds started crying

Mossi
November 29th, 2008, 11:33 PM
I´ll probably get banned for stating this but here goes: Transformers (the new one)..

Peter Jackson's king kong ("hey.. a running giant gorilla" 20 minutes later "Yup it's running".. another 20 minutes later "man.. they reeeeeaaally wanted to show of their runcycle, didn´t they?".. Peter Jackson was a little bit trigger happy on the Special Effects button, and some of the editing was just plain right noobish)

Spiderman 3 (*only* enjoyable scene was the one with Bruce Campbell, seriously)

Sweeney Todd and Corpse Bride.. (although I am a big big fan of Tim Burton, all love is not blind.. and I´m looking forward to Alice)

(ok.. and here´s probably the last nail in my coffin): The Dark Knight.

The Dark Knight is good.. but, I´d give it an 8 out of 10. It's not the brilliant masterpiece everyone wants it to be (IMO of course).. but, of course, Heath Ledger was awesome in it.

Mad Max 1.

James Kei
November 29th, 2008, 11:47 PM
Crash-
Won an Oscar, and I still have no idea why.

Casino Royal-
Give me the old James Bond back plz.

Psychotime
November 29th, 2008, 11:48 PM
Iron Man
Hancock (started out great, but ended kind of lame)

Yep. Couldn't agree more. (Except I did like Transformers, though.)

Gory
November 29th, 2008, 11:50 PM
Lord of the Rings.

That's right, fuck all of you. The more people sing praise about these movies the more I hate them.

I enjoyed them quite a bit, but they are not masterpieces of cinema. And Tolkien is a lousy writer.

I'd also like to add Sin City and 300 to this list. Well, at least they had the common courtesy of not being 3 hours long.

Psychotime
November 29th, 2008, 11:51 PM
Lord of the Rings

I still can't watch it without falling asleep.

Alex Chow
November 30th, 2008, 12:18 AM
Which movies that you think didn't live up to the hype they got. Post them here if you want.

Similar to games, there are so many that I cannot even list them all. The one movie that stands out the most for me, however, is Spiderman 3 because it singlehandedly convinced me to stop going to movie theatres. I have respect for all the people who made the movie but the end product was downright disappointing and, leaving the theatre, I felt completely cheated.

First thing I remember saying to my friends after it ended was "What the fuck is this shit?"

FightingSeraph
November 30th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Mossy & FourTonMantis: You aren't the only ones who didn't like the new Transformers, you should see what Garry Chalk from Beast Wars has to say. Suffice to say, I disagree with you on that one (I enjoyed it).

The Amaranth: I steer clear of the Spider-Man sequels, myself (although the first one kicked ass).

James Kei: I liked the old Bond movies myself.

Alex Chow
November 30th, 2008, 01:06 AM
The Amaranth: I steer clear of the Spider-Man sequels, myself (although the first one kicked ass).

The second one is actually my favourite of the series and it shattered the "sequels suck" curse for me. Of course, the third movie just brought it right back in a FURY. Again, I have all the respect for the people who worked hard to make Spider-man 3 and I, one day, may be working in the entertainment industry but the movie is just a mess. I was so hyped after reading about how Venom is in the movie too.

Seems like the "3s" are always the cursed ones.

Moai
November 30th, 2008, 01:15 AM
Syriana.
The plot is impossible to follow. There are about half a dozen different storylines, yet the movie usually only spends about a minute on each at a time. You'll get attention deficit disorder just watching it. Plus, near the end, right as things seem be actually happening, there's an explosion, George Clooney and the emir die, and it all comes to nothing. Fuck you for watching, it seems the movie is saying.

I agree with James Kei on Crash.

The last two Lord of the Rings movies. I prefer the adventure of the first movie over the endless battles of the later movies. Plus, the way they omitted some of the final parts of the last book annoys the hell out of me. The Shire is not at all as peaceful and idyllic when the hobbits return as when they left, at least in the books.

No Country for Old Men. (Beware of spoilers!) I thought this was an excellent movie, and seeing it in the theater was an amazing experience. However, I think it is marred by one of the most crushing anticlimaxes in the history of film. The conflict and antagonism between Moss and Chigurh is raised to an exhilarating pitch...but then it all collapses. Moss is killed disappointingly offscreen, and then we're forced to listen to Tommy Lee Jones and the other sheriff and his uncle complaining and ruminating for another half hour as the main conflict of the film fades away, unresolved. I realize that this disappointing conclusion was probably the point, and is faithful to the book, but it's so frustratingly anticlimactic that it comes close to ruining the movie for me.

I could probably think of more, but I gotta go do other things.

tomwaits4noman
November 30th, 2008, 07:44 AM
The last two Lord of the Rings movies.

No Country for Old Men..

personally all of the lord of rings films... they just bored me

spidey three was laughable

No Country was ok, but there is a better film with similar feel Tommy Lee Jones gives the jaded performance but its better....
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada

Star wars 1-6

Everything the Coens have done since The Big Lebowski

Oh Brother and The Man Who Wasn't There were good but there was something missing... after that it tail dived, think they are getting back on form but not there yet.

Jules and Jim (not a bad film per say but it didn't seem to be the classic it was supposed to be)
probably loads more.. can't think at moment

Zaxser
November 30th, 2008, 08:07 AM
Another vote for LoTR. Also, fuck the matrix. And fuck everyone who says people don't like a movie because they don't understand it.

Also, Relevant to Your Interests. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/WorseThanItSounds)

By the way, bitching is fun, (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/ComplainAboutShowsYouDontLike) but I say, fuck negativity. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SugarWiki/SweetExists?from=Main.SugarWiki)

Mock
November 30th, 2008, 08:18 AM
Yeah, I still have no idea why Crash was so hyped.

Spiderman 3 was horrible. Apparently venom is that emo kid who just wants to dance.

The entire X-men trio. Not just 3. Rogue and Iceman? No Gambit? No. No in so many ways.

nickmarshallvfx
November 30th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Ok, first off, i had a feeling this was gonna turn into a 'take the biggest and most well loved movies' and bash on them. The LOTR movies are masterpieces. No two ways about it.

Im split on the Matrix movies. The first one was a good movie with an intersting premise, the sequels were pretty awful, and id lost all interest in them because having an invincible lead protagonist, all sense of danger was gone. There was only trinity who was really in danger and the characters were so emotionless that i didnt really feel that anyone would care if she did.

Transformers was a good fun movie with some amazing visuals. It didnt take itself too seiously and was a good time.

Sin City i agree was overrated, it was an average story with an interesting visual style. Not the movie it was hyped to be.

Nick

MiniGoth
November 30th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Well, the first Matrix was stolen from another writer(she was in court for quite a while, believe she won), and it becomes painfully obvious in the other two.

LoTR live action has Ralph Basci rolling in his grave - take out those long boring traveling shots, and the rest of the movie is a frame by frame rip of his animated series.

Crash was hyped because it was groomed as an Oscar contender. those movies tend to be star studded, preach about some 'current' affairs subject, and try to be 'hard hitting' with high production values. I have yet to see one that I didn't think was a self congratulatory pile of horseshit.

tomwaits4noman
November 30th, 2008, 05:03 PM
well the matrix basically takes the films Dark City and Ghost in the Shell and crosses them with video games. The first one was entertaining a decent action film with some brains... they should have stopped there...

creatix
November 30th, 2008, 05:56 PM
I'll bite and I'm sure some people will be offended by my list of over-rated movies. That aspect I actually do find laughable.

Keep in mind, over-rated doesn't mean it is a horrible movie. Some of the movies on my list have some amazing things about them but with me - they just don't resonate and give me that "Oh my God that was outstanding" feeling.

Pulp Fiction
Fight Club
Boondock Saints
Snatch
Star Wars Ep 4
Sin City
Spiderman 1 & 2
American Beauty

Mossi
November 30th, 2008, 07:26 PM
Holy crap, MiniGoth.. just mentioning the Matrix *trilogy* gave me an aneurysm!
EDIT- deep breaths.. deeeeep breaths.

IMO there was only one.

FightingSeraph
November 30th, 2008, 08:13 PM
MiniGoth: Ralph Bakshi is still alive, seeing that he was interviewed for the Wizards DVD release and again in Comic-Con. Plus, his version of LotR was Rotoscoped due to the fact that his company was low on cash.

MiniGoth
November 30th, 2008, 10:36 PM
I wasn't sure(and using a kind of tongue in cheek phrase). I do know about the cash flow issue - still doesn't excuse the blockbuster for stealing every single shot. Watch em. It's the exact same movie.

Vulgar`
December 1st, 2008, 02:01 AM
Good Will Hunting - Expected in every way possible for me. The beginning, ending, and middle twists were predictable for me.

The Usual Suspects - This movie was also predictable for me as well. I knew Kevin Spacey, an actor of great capabilities was sooner or later going to be included in an incredibly unexpected twist... and so forth.

Crash - Agree with everyone else who mentioned it.

Costau D
December 1st, 2008, 02:41 AM
LoTR live action has Ralph Basci rolling in his grave - take out those long boring traveling shots, and the rest of the movie is a frame by frame rip of his animated series.


Ralph Bakshi is still alive and kicking

The Usual Suspects I have to agree with.

tobbA
December 1st, 2008, 08:18 AM
As far as I know the Matrix is just copy pasta of a lot of other movies and comics. Some of the movie scenes are exact copies of ones in Ghost In the Shell as well. The bullet time effect is borrowed from anime series and so on...

But i'm not really complaining. I like the movie anyway :)

The only overrated movies I can think of are the Dark Knight and Batman Begins. Sure, lot's of spectacular action... but not so much more.

Equality72521
December 1st, 2008, 12:53 PM
since everyone is talking about action movies, thought i would throw in some comedies:

Will Ferrell Movies since Anchorman have all been dry and predictable, he plays the same arrogant, dumb SOB character in every movie

Judd Apatow movies, they always have big hype, but are never as funny i thought they would be. Like 40 Year Old Virgin, i thought i would die laughing, but found the movie was kinda sad and pathetic. Same with Knocked Up (exceptions to me are Anchorman and Superbad)

To add perspective, Ive only laughed in the theaters REAL hard (as in crying) in two movies: Borat and Jackass 2 (i know, but some parts in those movies are too much!)

Taboo
December 1st, 2008, 01:59 PM
The new SPIRIT movie, and Frank Miller in general

Madagascar I+II

High School Musicals

Mr.Delicious
December 1st, 2008, 02:19 PM
most every indie movie that labels itself as an indie movie

Taboo
December 1st, 2008, 02:41 PM
^ Juno

Straight Edge Ryan
December 1st, 2008, 04:26 PM
All of the Matrix movies-too long. After the first one I had absolutely no idea what was going on. Also, every character in those damn movies apparently had a complete innability to give straight answers to anything. Ask someone where the bathroom is in that movie and your answer is always something along the lines of "do you seek the bathroom -or does the bathroom seek you?"

Disaster Movie, Epic Movie, Scary Movies 3 and 4, etc.-Just repetitive shit. Completely absent of any coherent storyline whatsoever, it's like they thought "let's just forgo any and all writing and get right to making a bunch of puns on popular movies and peoplez! HARR!". Not only that, but the jokes are centered around pop culture movies and people that are only relevant NOW, our kids would be like "what? I don't get it. What they hell are they talking about?". The first and second scary movie were good, but they were also vastly different from the 3rd or 4th. Seriously go watch scary movie 1 again, it's got a whole different style

Juno-movie wasn't bad by any means, people just hyped it up a lot. Plus it inspired a lot of slutty teenage broads to get pregnant in some high school

Kill Bill 1&2-again, not a bad movie. I actually like both of them, but there are several instances of intentional corniness that I think ONLY Tarantino could get away with. If any other director went for the 1960s-1970s kung fu action flick feel that Tarantino did, everyone would just be like "this is dumb"

the Lord of the Rings series-not bad flicks, maybe it's just my ADD or something, but I couldn't keep track through every film. But having your ass in the same chair for 3+ hours will make you really fidgety

Napolean Dynamite-I chuckled silently maybe twice through this entire movie. People made it out like it was the funniest damn thing they'd ever seen, but I thought it just droned on and on and on and on and on. It was a movie about people who not only spoke in the same boring monotone voices, but spoke about equally boring subjects

300-it's entertaining, I'll give it that. But what I hate is, well, you know those big, macho, egotistical, jock dudes who go around looking for anyone half their size to fight and use the words "bro" and "fag" religiously? Yeah I picture this as being the most motivational and meaningful movie they've ever seen. Like they walk out of the movie theatre flexing their muscles thinking "yeah HONOR yeah they weren't afraid of dying and I wouldn't be either. HONOR woo yeah. HONOR. man. HONOR!!!"

Cthogua
December 1st, 2008, 05:32 PM
Fight Club...I got so fucking tired of hearing about how this was the greatest movie ever made. Being a freshman in college at the time, I think it tapped into a sort of vague anti-commercial society idea that alot of my friends and I felt...However I think a lot of people (atleast my friends anyway) seemed to miss the point about the "fight club" part of it. It seemed to me that the violence, that was originally intended to ground the charater, and members of the fight club, really only ended up as a masturbatory spectacle, and the whole club ended up feeding his psychosis. Everyone else went out and bought boxing gloves and started hitting each other....

sing-macabre
December 1st, 2008, 07:55 PM
Twilight, definitely. Me and some 20 something other kids in my grade all went to see it this Saturday. It was ok, but it wasn't some perspective-changing, mind-blowing work of art like most people my age treat it like it is. Both the movie and the book were unbelievably predictable and cliche, IMO. Stephanie Meyer sure knows how to sell to 13 year-olds, though.

Also, I'll go along with everyone else and say The Matrix. I hate the whole concept of a "chosen one".

I'd have to disagree with most of you about LotR, though--I really enjoyed them. Sure, they're not everyone's cup of tea, but I don't think they're bad, and I don't think they're intolerably hyped up, either.

FightingSeraph
December 1st, 2008, 08:51 PM
Straight Edge Ryan: You're not the only one who likes the original Scary Movie and hated Epic Movie. And Kudos for including Napoleon Dynamite, that flick was way, way overhyped.

Kagemusha22
December 2nd, 2008, 01:39 PM
Pirates of the Caribbean, easily. In matter of fact I have a very long rant by Mark Kermode that sums up my feelings for that series pretty well;

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Costau D
December 2nd, 2008, 03:24 PM
I think this makes things official. Either nobody knows what they like anymore, or saying you hate everything and elaborating on why to a point of where people just zone out is in fashion. I wonder how many people these days say they hate something because someone else said so, and they don't want to look silly...

The one piece of good advice I have received about seeing a film is to never just see a film because your favorite actor or actress was in it. You won't believe how many people I run into at work saying Iron Man was the greatest movie EVAR just because Robert Downey Jr. was in it. Same goes for directors. But, I've also learned if a person likes a movie let them like it. I'm not going to berate them and make them feel dumb. I like stupid movies once and a while. Also, a lot of movies people like for different reasons.

I do have a question though. Why so much appraisal for A Clockwork Orange? Every time I ask people why they love the movie so much they stumble around and give me answers like "it just is" or "the book was really good" or "stanley kubrick directed it!". I come to think that most people who come to like a movie because it's in fashion and dont know why are tools. But, I mean that in a friendly way.

Someone explain it to me!!! It's seriously bugging me. Is it just in fashion because it's edgy and they wear cod pieces?

I also thought The Assasination of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Redford (god thats a long title) had great cinematics but holy shit was it boring. I still liked it though.

Straight Edge Ryan
December 2nd, 2008, 05:50 PM
well I think the whole thing about a Clockwork Orange is it tends to attract all the people that wanna be "artsy". I thought it was an alright movie, but I don't worship it like some others do. I thought it was interesting how the main character was also the antagonist of the story, it brought up some valid questions about personal choice, morality, personal freedom, etc. and did have a unique and somewhat bizarre visual style

For the most part tho, the movie adaptation of A Clockwork Orange kinda misses the point that the book was going for cause the U.S. version of the book had the very last chapter edited out. Originally Alex was supposed to turn good by his own choice, run across his old friends, find a new girl, stop being violent, etc. which changes the message from "their attempts to make me passive have failed, the media victimizes me, and now I'm going to continue being a bastard" to "violence is wrong, I shouldn't have done all that, I should leave it in the past blahblahblah".

But I do agree that it's overrated

FightingSeraph
December 2nd, 2008, 06:23 PM
CosmoChimp: Your thoughts on A Clockwork Orange remind me of my thoughts on Joss Whedon's stuff. As for your first and second paragraphs, I'd have to agree with you there.

Cthogua
December 2nd, 2008, 07:16 PM
I think this makes things official. Either nobody knows what they like anymore, or saying you hate everything and elaborating on why to a point of where people just zone out is in fashion. I wonder how many people these days say they hate something because someone else said so, and they don't want to look silly...


He he seriously, people have hated on popular things ever since there have been popular things. This goes at least double for things that developed a following while still unpopular. I'd say it's part reverse-trend following (all the non-conformist Manson fans :-P ) and part legitimate burn out.

Kagemusha22
December 3rd, 2008, 06:17 AM
It's because we like a good whine in the Lounge area, near-enough 70% of the threads on here are dedicated to it. If we didn't our heads would explode, with all the negative pressure filling them...

FightingSeraph
December 3rd, 2008, 11:01 AM
Goddamn, Looks like I started something popular on this site. Looks like I might have start a worst/most annoying anime thread.

Straight Edge Ryan
December 3rd, 2008, 03:05 PM
Goddamn, Looks like I started something popular on this site. Looks like I might have start a worst/most annoying anime thread.

No need, the answer will always be Naruto

sjmarshy
December 3rd, 2008, 03:43 PM
I have to say I enjoyed fight club, though I do agree about many people not appearing to 'get' some of the main points about the actual violence in the film. It's hard to say which films I find over rated, I don't tend to actually go to the cinemas any more, just lack of time and intrest more than anything else, but I would have to agree with Napolean Dynamite being over rated, I just don't understand how the hype has gotten to the level it has.

Bill
December 3rd, 2008, 10:06 PM
Indiana Jones 4 was a waste. Pirates 1 was ok I thought but the last one was drivle. Spidey 3 should have been better but I think that was the Suits screwing that one up. I like the last 2 LOTR's aswell as Transformers and Iron Man.

FightingSeraph
December 4th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I'd also throw in Kiki's Delivery Service and Castle in the Sky; what a waste of time those were. I'd rather take Titan A.E. or Who Framed Roger Rabbit? over any of Studio Ghibli's movies anyday.

Man Made God
December 4th, 2008, 01:07 PM
No need, the answer will always be Naruto
Part one was pretty good, nice soundtrack and voice acting(Jap), and decent to good animation. After the first 130-odd episodes it turned into what may be the worst anime ever made. It annoys me how bad and how popular it is now, especially when the manga is still good.

Overated movies? Sin City, 300, Crash, Saw, No Country For Old Men, Pirates of the Caribbean, and too many to name.

Dorkthrone
December 4th, 2008, 04:25 PM
-300
Zak Snyder is a pretty good director, but 300 really did nothing for me. Sure, it was nice to look at, but that doesn't make it the best movie ever made.

-Twilight
Oh god do I hate Twilight. Ignoring the sparkling vampires, there's the fact that there's a far better movie with a similar plot (Let the Right One In) that one could go see instead.

-Transformers
Yes, this does sound like the perfect movie for Michael Bay to helm. That doesn't make it any better. This is Michael Bay we're talking about.

-The entire Epic/Date/Scary/Disaster Movie franchise
Thank god people are starting to realize that these films are absolutely terrible and don't even really have any jokes. Just random pop culture appearances and people being hit by things.

Straight Edge Ryan
December 4th, 2008, 05:15 PM
Part one was pretty good, nice soundtrack and voice acting(Jap), and decent to good animation. After the first 130-odd episodes it turned into what may be the worst anime ever made. It annoys me how bad and how popular it is now, especially when the manga is still good.

Overated movies? Sin City, 300, Crash, Saw, No Country For Old Men, Pirates of the Caribbean, and too many to name.

A fun drinking game to play si sit around watching Naruto and you and your buddies take a shot every time Naruto says "believe it!". You'll be wasted after about 10 minutes usually

I think the fact that it's gone on so long the crux of a lot of animes though, they carry on too damn long, some of the most loved animes were relatively short. If you let anything go on for long enough it's bound to get stupid eventually. This principle applies to humanity as well.

Man Made God
December 4th, 2008, 07:16 PM
American dub adds a whole new layer of awful. Naruto doesn't even say "believe it" in Japanese lol. And you're right about the length. Anime are often just bastardized adaptions of manga. They are full of non canon material designed to create more episodes at the cost of continuity and anything good about the original series. Naruto is a good manga, and it was a good anime, but a lot of people only see the terrible dubbed/censored version or the filler episodes. I always read a manga before I watch the anime now, there so many examples of great manga turned into horrible anime, Naruto and Gantz both come to mind.

Brightdreamer
December 4th, 2008, 07:20 PM
Actually, my list isn't that long; if I get a bad feel off a movie, regardless of hype, I don't go. I'm sure I miss some good ones, but I also save money on some baddies. That said, here are some that snuck past my crud sensing system on a wave of hype....

Pretty Woman - A guy picks up a hooker and decides it's cheaper to marry her. Beautiful love story, my tail...

Twister - I didn't see this one until it came out on video. Before then, I saw a made-for-TV knockoff. The TV knockoff had much more going for it.

Ice Age - Some fun throwaway lines, but I'd rather have a plot. And I really, really got sick of the characters. (Some time ago, I read an interview with the creator of Finding Nemo, where they said that they originally didn't start with Marlin's wife being killed and saved that info for the climax, but that test audiences found him annoyingly irritable when they didn't know why he was such an overprotective grouch. That is the exact mistake they made in Ice Age with that mammoth.)

Spider Man - I'll give them credit for not making Spidey wear all-black like most movie superheroes these days, and I liked that he actually enjoyed his new superpowers (if briefly), but... man, that was so not worth all the hype.

Scary Movie - Now, I love me a good parody. I didn't love me this parody. I actually preferred the similar Shriek If I Know What You Did Last Friday The Thirteenth, which is still low-brow but actually makes me laugh. (I watched Scary Movie in a theater with a row of college-age boys ahead of me. When college boys keep checking their watches during the overlong sex gag scene, you know they've missed their mark.)

Pirates of the Carribean 2 - The first one I found fun, if a bit overlong. The second one... why? Never saw the third one, and I doubt I ever will.

Honorable Mentions:
Shadow of the Vampire - I learned an important tip from this movie: when the audience of the showing before you walks out in dead, horrified silence, go straight to the box office and get your money back.

Flirting with Disaster - After reading a glowing review in the paper, we went to see it in the theater. I almost walked out repeatedly. Aside from the last 10-odd minutes, the whole thing was repulsive.

ET - Now, there's a weird thing about this movie. When I first saw it, being a kid, I enjoyed it. My parents also enjoyed it. We saw it again when it came out on DVD, and we were all thoroughly turned off by it. (I say it's weird because, while I rather expected my own tastes to change since grade school, my parents also were repulsed and they remember loving it in theaters, too.)

FightingSeraph
December 4th, 2008, 07:58 PM
Man Made God: If you want to see a manga-to-anime conversion done right, watch and read Angel Sanctuary by Kaori Yuki. If you do watch the anime, watch the original Japanese version. Fun fact about English-Dubbed Naruto: One of the voice actors (Yuri Lowenthal) is doing voices for the new Prince of Persia games.

Brightdreamer: I liked both Shriek If I Know What You Did Last Friday The Thirteenth and Scary Movie. And rest assured that you're not the only one who didn't like Scary Movie (you should hear what the guys at I-Mockery have to say).

nickmarshallvfx
December 4th, 2008, 09:36 PM
I cant believe i missed Pirates of the Carribean! Yes, all 3! Complete trash! Im a visual effects artist, and the visual effects in that movie are some of the best to date, but that STILL couldnt make me sit through the whole thing! I have even tried going back and rewatching in case i had missed something and there really was some genius there, but no...

I have to wholeheartedly agree with everything Cosmo Chimp said back there too.

Nick

Junck
December 4th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Twilight.

For the love of Jemima, what an overrated piece of crap. I can't wait until it passes and I don't have to hear about it somewhere on every forum I frequent.

AMEN TO THAT. I've gone through the book series recently, and after seeing the movie ... I can't even put to words how disappointing it was. It's like the actors didn't even ATTEMPT to care about their roles, and just went on set looking bored and pissed while drooling out their lines. The first book could have made things at least interesting or entertaining... but this was beyond failure. I propose they burn every existing copy. But then again, it probably doesn't take much to please that fandom. It was #1 on the hit movies for this season last time I checked.

The new SPIRIT movie, and Frank Miller in general

Madagascar I+II

High School Musicals

The Spirit isn't out yet I thought...



As for my opinion, the Hulk was a pretty huge letdown. A step up from the first version, but still no dice. I love Edward Norton to death and all, but half the movie you're waiting for him to stop running and -do- something.

Spiderman 3. For a movie that was hyped over Venom he sure wasn't in it much :P. Not to mention the movie itself took a turn for the terrible. Talk about a stinker.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Not worth the 8 bucks. This is what we call a sell-out. Lets recruit Shia LeWhoever to reel in the teen audience in hopes they'll turn out to buy the original trilogy for more profit. It sucked. Extra-terrestrials and Indiana Jones do not mix. It left behind the fun, adventurous feel of the old movies in favor of an overload of punch-lines and Shia swinging like an ape through vines with sub-par digital effects. Outlandish to the point of ridiculous. Stupid.

The others... Cloverfield, 10,000 BC (great cinematics but ...whaaat?), Speed Racer...

Kagemusha22
December 5th, 2008, 05:06 AM
-Transformers
Yes, this does sound like the perfect movie for Michael Bay to helm. That doesn't make it any better. This is Michael Bay we're talking about.



Someone say Michael Bay?

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algenpfleger
December 5th, 2008, 06:48 AM
Worst thread ever.

Straight Edge Ryan
December 5th, 2008, 12:23 PM
By the way, this is kind of unrelated but hearing people talk about Twilight reminded me of this: Is it just me, or is every vampire in the movies always a dick? Like if people are ever like "oh hi! glad to meet you!" and go to shake his hand, the vampire always stares at them blankly with a really pretentious look on his face

Interceptor
December 5th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Tim Burton as a director, I find to be extremely overrated.

kingshaj
December 5th, 2008, 06:57 PM
bat man begins
dark night,

although id did like them they far to many unintentional laughs

hulk(v2)

spidey 1,2&3

Quentin Tarantino (great but no where near as great as his hype ..not nearly...still a fan)

war of the worlds

cloverfield!

AVP's

transformers

harry potter

many of these are fun films but ...c'maaaan.
most of them don't stand up too repeated viewings.
Quentin Tarantino is the exception to that rule, but if i hear one more "royal with cheese" quote i will slap a bitch...it ain't that funny. and he has never written a line of dialog that wasn't inarguably in his own voice.


so nyah.
:nohope:

Diphallia
December 6th, 2008, 03:28 PM
I can't believe someone named Fight Club.
It's underrated, it really is an awesome movie.

FightingSeraph
December 6th, 2008, 08:16 PM
I can't believe someone named Fight Club.
It's underrated, it really is an awesome movie.
No offence, but compared to those here who put in Fight Club; it isn't what I consider underrated. Now, I would like to see what you would consider overrated.

Taboo
December 9th, 2008, 04:44 AM
It annoys me how bad and how popular [Naruto Anime] is now, especially when the manga is still good.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/nanu/eatcrow.jpg

uh, sure

Diphallia
December 9th, 2008, 05:39 AM
No offence, but compared to those here who put in Fight Club; it isn't what I consider underrated. Now, I would like to see what you would consider overrated.

Twillight.
evan the allmighty (bruce the allmighty is much better).
The lord of the ring (the whole trilogy)

Almost every american comedy.
The american pie movies.

Err, Troy.
300.
Can't come to think of any others right now.

FightingSeraph
December 9th, 2008, 12:25 PM
Diphallia: I agree with you on American Pie; judging by the trailers, they looked awful.

I'm surprised that nobody has commented on my overrated list. Plus, judging from the Naruto debate, looks like I will start that worst/most overrated anime thread when I get the chance.

Straight Edge Ryan
December 9th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Can't believe I didn't think of this earlier, but SCARFACE. Seriously, can you think of any movie that's had a quote used as many times as "say hello to my little friend"?

Movies good and all, but what annoys me is that people seem to miss the point. So many people saw this movie and thought "woah, the life of a mafia drug lord is cool!" When the entire point of the movie was supposed to be "the life of a mafia drug lord is NOT cool". By the end of the flick his arrogance and greed and thirst for power got his sister killed, made him kill his best friend in a fit of paranoia, got him hopelessly addicted to cocaine, lost him all his money, and left him face down in a pool of bloody water, filled with bullet holes, while his entire empire collapsed around him

Diphallia
December 9th, 2008, 12:58 PM
I'm gonna get flamed for this.
But I tried to watch The Godfather but it was so boring that I switched to some fantasy movie instead.

algenpfleger
December 9th, 2008, 01:35 PM
FightingSeraph, the fact that no one comments on your list might be due to the fact that they all feel pity for you being unable to enjoy some of the greatest animation films ever made. It also seems to me that you're starving for attention. Instead of starting another stupid thread, you might want to go draw instead.

FightingSeraph
December 9th, 2008, 03:42 PM
No offence, Algenpfleger, but animation quality doesn't make a movie great. I found GitS and Studio Ghibli's films to be the most boring movies I've ever seen. Honestly, seeing either Mononoke or GitS getting higher scores than Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Goku: Midnight Eye, Titan A.E., or Ark (from the same people as Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within) is an insult to some truly great movies that deserve it. I will credit my choices with good acting, but even that couldn't keep them from being boring.

Farvus
December 9th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Well. You need to be interested in the cyberpunk genre to fully appreciate Ghost in the Shell. I don't think it's anime created for wide audience.

Hideyoshi
December 9th, 2008, 04:41 PM
It’s not about animation quality.
Those films easily outdo many life-action films in terms of story, characters, concept and atmosphere. Almost all of the Ghibli movies evoke stronger emotions than many films with actual actors in it.
Either you’re indeed trying to get attention or you just can’t get your head around japanese films (especially their pacing) in general, thus appreciate them because they are significantly different from Hollywood mainstream crap. How can someone claim that GITS is not original? And also, please don’t compare Ghibli with Naruto or DB because that’s just plain ridiculous. But hey, seeing that you watch anime in english dubbed versions I can see how that cultural distortion of unspeakable dimensions can unsettle any sensible viewer... Dubs are horrid americanized abominations of japanese animation spirit.
Stick with ‘in-your-face’, claptrap American animation if you’re dependent on American voice actors in anime. And yes, I am aware I might alienate some other folks here... (I don't watch German dubbed Hollywood films either).
If you have seen japanese non-animation films, you might detect certain qualities in the pacing of these films which makes you think they are boring while it has deep roots in japanese culture and mentality.

no offence.

algenpfleger
December 10th, 2008, 09:21 AM
Hide, I love you. My thoughts exactly. And I mean, exactly.

DanielC
December 10th, 2008, 11:03 AM
Cosmochimp: Because that movie is about yourself, and myself, and anyone else. Because it's about the choices you make in life and even if they're immoral, you chose them because you like and maybe need them. That's why i loved this movie. Cause its also about what makes this world interesting, for the differences people are able to make. (that's for clockwork orange) I dont understand why people ask and refer to other people about movies. Its like asking if they like the taste of chocolate, where it should be you who taste it. Anyway, im out of here... i smell ignorance in quite a few posts...

arttorney
December 10th, 2008, 11:45 AM
After everything I had heard about Fight Club I would have thought it would be great. The only part I really liked was the way they dressed and made up Helena Bonham Carter, or whatever the hell her name is. After you've been beaten up involuntarily a few times I guess that stuff just loses some of its charm.

Days of Thunder- I fell asleep.

Birth of a Nation- Racist drivel

Cthogua
December 10th, 2008, 12:25 PM
For the record I don't think that Fight Club was a bad movie. I just thought it was overrated, especially amongst my group of friends, and I didn't think a lot of them got the point about the violence. It seems like a lot of folks are taking overrated to mean necessarily bad, when I took it to just mean that people made a bigger deal out of it than it was.

Hehehe, I'm gonna get strung up by the Anim-nazis for saying this, but I actually prefer dubbed versions of Anime to the subtitled ones, despite the sometimes hilariously off intonation and emphasis. Ordinarily I don't mind subtitles at all, and enjoy many foreign films that way. However with animated things I really like taking in the visuals, and if I'm spending all my time reading then I don't feel like I'm enjoying the "animated" part of the movie enough and would rather be watching a live action movie.

arttorney
December 10th, 2008, 01:10 PM
I didn't see pages 2 and 3 when I posted and I can see I've jumped into a debate late.

What I meant about Fight Club was "overrated" rather than "bad." As a bookend, the only part of the movie I really hated was when he punctured that biohazard bag on the ribbon wire. Sheesh! Are people really that clueless in this world.

If I was going to post about bad movies I would have had to include Suspiria.

A Clockwork Orange is about levels and interconnectedness. On the face of it, it looks like the movie is about various adventures of a really bad kid. In there deeper, is the fact that there are levels of badness in our civilization that go way beyond first appearances. We have mid-level operatives such as Deltoid, the police sergeants, and the prison guard who can do violence under cloak of authority and get away with it. We have government behavioral scientists who can do evil on so deep a level that they brainwash and torture people to accept whatever bad is done to them (again, under cloak of authority). We have politicians who are so bad that they will invoke the evil of the scientists to turn a person this way or that (like a switch) depending on their need of the moment. These politicians will even turn against their own servants to protect themselves ("An inquiry will place the blame where it belongs.") We have victims, friends, family, and co-workers who will turn into oppressors as soon as opportunity presents itself. Each of us is a clockwork that can be reprogrammed. Society itself is a clockwork full of interconnected parts. Each of those parts is driven by the neighboring gears of predatory force or fraud. A Clockwork Orange seeks to expose the extent of this interconnected mechanism.

I think these two movies are kind of about the same thing, but are told with different voices. I would say Fight Club is much more accessible to young adults. I didn't really get the full impact of A Clockwork Orange until I myself have passed through career stages as a scientist and attorney, and seen more levels of power than merely that of the street.

Cthogua
December 10th, 2008, 01:35 PM
I didn't see pages 2 and 3 when I posted and I can see I've jumped into a debate late.

What I meant about Fight Club was "overrated" rather than "bad." As a bookend, the only part of the movie I really hated was when he punctured that biohazard bag on the ribbon wire. Sheesh! Are people really that clueless in this world.

If I was going to post about bad movies I would have had to include Suspiria.

A Clockwork Orange is about levels and interconnectedness. On the face of it, it looks like the movie is about various adventures of a really bad kid. In there deeper, is the fact that there are levels of badness in our civilization that go way beyond first appearances. We have mid-level operatives such as Deltoid, the police sergeants, and the prison guard who can do violence under cloak of authority and get away with it. We have government behavioral scientists who can do evil on so deep a level that they brainwash and torture people to accept whatever bad is done to them (again, under cloak of authority). We have politicians who are so bad that they will invoke the evil of the scientists to turn a person this way or that (like a switch) depending on their need of the moment. These politicians will even turn against their own servants to protect themselves ("An inquiry will place the blame where it belongs.") We have victims, friends, family, and co-workers who will turn into oppressors as soon as opportunity presents itself. Each of us is a clockwork that can be reprogrammed. Society itself is a clockwork full of interconnected parts. Each of those parts is driven by the neighboring gears of predatory force or fraud. A Clockwork Orange seeks to expose the extent of this interconnected mechanism.

I think these two movies are kind of about the same thing, but are told with different voices. I would say Fight Club is much more accessible to young adults. I didn't really get the full impact of A Clockwork Orange until I myself have passed through career stages as a scientist and attorney, and seen more levels of power than merely that of the street.

That's a really interesting, and I'd say spot on break down of Clockwork. I've never really heard it analyzed like that. One thing that strikes me about that breakdown is that it's essentially based around the anarchist concept that any coercive form of governance or other social structure ultimately leads to repression/"evil". Do you think Kubrick meant it as an incrimination of the mechanism of government, or the society as a whole? Was Kubrick an anarchist?

FightingSeraph
December 10th, 2008, 02:39 PM
It’s not about animation quality.
Those films easily outdo many life-action films in terms of story, characters, concept and atmosphere. Almost all of the Ghibli movies evoke stronger emotions than many films with actual actors in it.
Either you’re indeed trying to get attention or you just can’t get your head around japanese films (especially their pacing) in general, thus appreciate them because they are significantly different from Hollywood mainstream crap. How can someone claim that GITS is not original? And also, please don’t compare Ghibli with Naruto or DB because that’s just plain ridiculous. But hey, seeing that you watch anime in english dubbed versions I can see how that cultural distortion of unspeakable dimensions can unsettle any sensible viewer... Dubs are horrid americanized abominations of japanese animation spirit.
Stick with ‘in-your-face’, claptrap American animation if you’re dependent on American voice actors in anime. And yes, I am aware I might alienate some other folks here... (I don't watch German dubbed Hollywood films either).
If you have seen japanese non-animation films, you might detect certain qualities in the pacing of these films which makes you think they are boring while it has deep roots in japanese culture and mentality.

no offence.

I wasn't saying that GitS and Mononoke were bad, just overhyped. Not to mention that there are several anime movies that I do like (Appleseed, Fist of the North Star, Goku: Midnight Eye). I just wanted to clear this up.

Costau D
December 10th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Cosmochimp: Because that movie is about yourself, and myself, and anyone else. Because it's about the choices you make in life and even if they're immoral, you chose them because you like and maybe need them. That's why i loved this movie. Cause its also about what makes this world interesting, for the differences people are able to make. (that's for clockwork orange) I dont understand why people ask and refer to other people about movies. Its like asking if they like the taste of chocolate, where it should be you who taste it. Anyway, im out of here... i smell ignorance in quite a few posts...

Thank you, that is the best answer I have ever gotten about the movie. That's how I felt about the book.

Edit: I have to agree with what Cthogua said in the last past.

arttorney
December 10th, 2008, 03:12 PM
I couldn't really say about Stanley Kubrick's politics, although it is interesting that he took out that redeeming last chapter where Alex (and Pete) seem to grow up and become well socialized. (His messages in Dr. Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket strike me as decidedly against the machine.)

A lot of that "analysis" may be more indicative of my mindset than that of Stanley Kubrick. I've read a bunch of edgy and philosophical stuff from various movements and spent more time than I should comparing the messages of things like "Crime and Punishment," "The Theory of the Leisure Class," "The Prince," "The Social Contract," etc. etc. (Rousseau was an ass, by the way).

Costau D
December 12th, 2008, 05:58 AM
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FightingSeraph
January 1st, 2009, 07:41 PM
Here are some that needed mentioning:

1. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2007: Even though I saw the second half of this; that was the time when it was out of steam. Would have been better without the celebs and the Futurama guys.

2. Spider-Man 2

3. Blade I and II: Spawn was better than either one of these.

That's all for now.

Psypomp
January 1st, 2009, 08:11 PM
All of the Underworld movies..

and Twilight.

Moai
January 2nd, 2009, 12:26 AM
Tropic Thunder. What a mess! The characters were poorly developed, even considering that they were just stereotypes. I only chuckled a few times, and only actually laughed once, which was disappointing after hearing how funny it supposedly was.

Jacob Kobryn
January 2nd, 2009, 01:10 AM
Tropic Thunder was in my opinion the best comedy of '08...

Moriah
January 2nd, 2009, 01:32 AM
Sometimes anime needs to be dubbed... Why do some of the Japanese voices for the girls have to be so screechy and whiney?

Anyway, I'd have to say that I really don't understand the ancient love for the Maltese Falcon. It's boring.

Moai
January 2nd, 2009, 01:02 PM
Tropic Thunder was in my opinion the best comedy of '08...

That's what I kept hearing. I was disappointed.:[

chriskot
January 3rd, 2009, 01:26 AM
Citizen Kane.

Great movie? Of course.
Greatest movie ever? Highly doubtful.

seba_boi
January 3rd, 2009, 03:05 AM
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind

Citizen Kane.

Great movie? Of course.
Greatest movie ever? Highly doubtful.
I'd rather have Citizen Kane on top of the list rather than The Godfather, Casablanca, Gone With The Wind, and The Rules Of The Game (which I think are all great movies)... At least that was revolutionary (perhaps that's not the right word) and actually worth studying shot by shot....

squidmonk3j
January 3rd, 2009, 11:06 AM
The Dark Knight - poorly paced, pretentious and boring. good joker, tho.

ChristianWeeks
January 3rd, 2009, 11:50 AM
Worst thread ever.

Definitely. Turns from "What movies you think are overrated" into "take whatever cinematic masterpiece that comes to mind and hate on it". Just a bunch of people with grudges on movies who've been waiting to hate on them. And then theres some mediators in between. :)


LoTR live action has Ralph Basci rolling in his grave - take out those long boring traveling shots, and the rest of the movie is a frame by frame rip of his animated series.

What? I'm surprised nobody quoted this before. Really? Did you REALLY just say LotR is a rip off of some unknown (I say this because either you spelled his name wrong or he isn't on any internet search engine) guys animated series? Pretty sure everything in that movie was taken straight from Tolkien's books. Which were, BTW, written like 5 decades ago. Granted, several things from the books are exxagerated (battle scenes, ofcourse, and Arwen and Aragorn's relationship), but they definitely didnt have to look at somebody's animated series to a get a feel for what they are doing.

Might as well go and say that every action movie with swords and arrows and monsters is a rip off of this guys animated series.

Hookswords
January 3rd, 2009, 12:51 PM
What? I'm surprised nobody quoted this before. Really? Did you REALLY just say LotR is a rip off of some unknown (I say this because either you spelled his name wrong or he isn't on any internet search engine) guys animated series? Pretty sure everything in that movie was taken straight from Tolkien's books. Which were, BTW, written like 5 decades ago. Granted, several things from the books are exxagerated (battle scenes, ofcourse, and Arwen and Aragorn's relationship), but they definitely didnt have to look at somebody's animated series to a get a feel for what they are doing.

Might as well go and say that every action movie with swords and arrows and monsters is a rip off of this guys animated series.


Any word you may care to utter is rendered empty and mute by you not knowing who Ralph Bakshi is. I dont care if it was misspelled. You have lost any and all academic integrity you could possibly bring to this conversation.

ChristianWeeks
January 3rd, 2009, 03:58 PM
Any word you may care to utter is rendered empty and mute by you not knowing who Ralph Bakshi is. I dont care if it was misspelled. You have lost any and all academic integrity you could possibly bring to this conversation.

I disagree. I'm just trying to say how ludicrous it is to say LotR ripped off of anything. Considering it was published in the 1950's. While the movie adaptation does not follow the book 100%, there were no momentous changes in the storyline, and the action scenes aren't very different from that of an other medieval hack-and-slash movies.

Stoat
January 3rd, 2009, 04:18 PM
Dwarf tossing. They put a dwarf tossing joke in a Lord of the Rings movie. Seriously not cool.

Night before last, we tried to sit all the way through There Will Be Blood. What the hell? Two hours and ten minutes into it, we realized it didn't have enough time left to get better.

I was amazed when I checked the online reviews, how much people loved it and dogpiled on anyone who disagreed. Whatever they saw, I can't see it.

HunterKiller_
January 3rd, 2009, 05:55 PM
Definitely. Turns from "What movies you think are overrated" into "take whatever cinematic masterpiece that comes to mind and hate on it". Just a bunch of people with grudges on movies who've been waiting to hate on them. And then theres some mediators in between. :)


Yup. Pretty bad thread.

FightingSeraph
January 3rd, 2009, 08:04 PM
Hunter Killer and ChristianWeeks: Guys, just because a movie or whatnot is overrated doesn't mean it is a bad movie. I just wanted to clarify that before a flame war breaks out.

Stoat: The fans of that movie you mention remind me of other viscious fanbases. (Arrested Development, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Invader Zim, Cowboy Bebop to name a few.)

Jazz
January 5th, 2009, 01:23 PM
I think "Shrek 3" was overrated...I found it too serious, especially after enjoying Shrek 2 so much. :( I actually hated the movie. I walked into the end of it by mistake, so that may have made things worse.

Way back I found "Liar, Liar" to be overrated as being so funny. It tricked me: a comedy-drama. Ever since then I've hated comedy-dramas to some degree.

"X-Men 3" was overrated to me...and it happened to be REALLY BAD...in my opinion.

Yes, Spidey 3 was overrated, Pirates 3 was, too...that one just turned me off. O_O I loved the first, liked the second...

I actually loved Dark Knight and Transformers...thought both were awesome for their action. I guess I tend to ignore everything else, unless it's a long enough scene to notice.

Titanic was overrated, I thought. It was a good movie though, just not spectacularly good. o_O

kev ferrara
January 5th, 2009, 03:25 PM
Any serious movie from the 30s, The Philadelphia Story, Magnificent Ambersons, Reflections in a Golden Eye, The French Nouvelle Vague films, anything "important" with Gregory Peck in it except when he played Mengele, any "swinging" ultra hip movie from the 60s except for Blow Up, Any period movie made in the 1970s (Tess, Barry Lyndon, Days of Heaven, etc.) unless its a western, (maybe any Period movie ever made... Gaslight comes to mind as being particularly boring. And those period films by Scorcese, Spielberg (Amistad, Hook), and Mamet are also mostly dull affairs, any movie with an airplane as a central locale except for Airplane! All Tarantino's output since Pulp Fiction, and maybe Pulp Fiction too, but especially Kill Bill. West Side Story (the music is good, however.) Anything Madonna. Snatch, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Sin City. Dogma. Love Actually. Anything directed by Kenneth Branaugh or Laurence Olivier.

I better stop.

Molly
January 5th, 2009, 04:15 PM
[QUOTE=Zaxser;2027543]Another vote for LoTR. Also, fuck the matrix. And fuck everyone who says people don't like a movie because they don't understand it....QUOTE]

FOOKING A, mate! The fuckng Matrix - WTF?!?!

LOTR- mainly, return of the king - how much back light was needed?

Star Wars the new episodes...ergh - someone kill adult Annakin please...

Spiderman 3 - Emo-Spidey and his bloody hormones...

Aly Fell
January 5th, 2009, 04:19 PM
'Apocalypse Now'. Bloated and self-important like it's central actor. Great cast and director, all, but for some reason just completely up their own proverbials! It kind of believes its own mythology, if it is possible for a movie to do so.

Edit: BTW Kev, as far as Gregory Peck is concerned, Mengele in 'Boys From Brazil' is small beans compared to his performance in 'To Kill a Mockingbird'.

Edit again: Oh and while I'm having a moan, 'The Godfather'. It's good, but is it 'that' good? Sorry Francis... And 'Scarface', the Pacino one. Give me Paul Muni every time! ;)

Hookswords
January 5th, 2009, 06:58 PM
COME ON! Gregory Peck's Moby Dick was awesome!

FourTonMantis
January 6th, 2009, 12:49 AM
Night before last, we tried to sit all the way through There Will Be Blood. What the hell? Two hours and ten minutes into it, we realized it didn't have enough time left to get better.

I was amazed when I checked the online reviews, how much people loved it and dogpiled on anyone who disagreed. Whatever they saw, I can't see it.

Atmosphere, man! That movie had to be one of the most atmospheric films I've ever seen. The washed out, desaturated cinematography, creepy soundtrack and bits of well placed silence took a movie with a rather basic plot about greed and it's consequences and made it into an artistic masterpiece. The book that inspired it, Oil! by Upton Sinclair, is incredibly different but also awesome. Probably one of the few book-based movies I've seen where the movie is nothing like the book, but it stands on it's own merit and didn't try to be a 3 hour adaptation.

As for overrated movies, I'm adding Eagle Eye to the list. Just saw this today. Rather loaded with tripe, I'd say.

Elwell
January 6th, 2009, 03:12 AM
This thread:

"You know that movie that everybody loves? I think it sucks!"
OR
"You know that movie that made a ton of money but everyone said sucked? I think it sucks, too!

...x ∞

I know everyone likes to prove how unique and superior their taste is, and it's sometimes hard to pass up a whine-fest (especially when all the other kids are doing it), but COME ON.
To quote Dr. Kermode (since he's already been brought up), "everyone involved should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves."

Aly Fell
January 6th, 2009, 06:57 AM
Yes, Elwell I am indeed thoughly ashamed. My head is hanging as I write this. Invoking Mark Kermode is always a blinder.

Stoat
January 6th, 2009, 07:36 AM
Hey, you know that conversation you guys were having for, like, four pages and really kind of enjoying? Well, I think it's stupid, so shut up, that's what.

Elwell
January 6th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Hey, you know that conversation you guys were having for, like, four pages and really kind of enjoying? Well, I think it's stupid, so shut up, that's what.
Oof. Touché.

Stoat
January 6th, 2009, 11:52 AM
Awwww...dammit. Now I feel bad for being a sarky weasel.

Aly Fell
January 6th, 2009, 12:20 PM
Awwww...dammit. Now I feel bad for being a sarky weasel.
Don't feel bad. My old grandma used to say sarcasm is the highest form of intellect, sadly it is also the lowest form of wit...

armando
January 6th, 2009, 11:53 PM
I appreciate the people here with the courage to admit they don't like certain movies. One of the reasons a movie gets overrated is when people are too scared to admit their feelings because they don't want to look stupid. The Wizard of Oz is overrated.

Elwell
January 7th, 2009, 12:12 AM
If bitching on the internet was a form of courage, this would be a world of superheroes.

Stoat
January 7th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Ha! Wizard of Oz is my favorite movie EVARRRR. When I was little, I thought it was a creepy religious movie about what happened to you when you died. Seriously, there was more death per square inch in that film than any three Tarantino flicks ("the last to go will see the first three go before her!"? WTF?!).

It didn't help that they ran it at Easter time every year.

That probably has something to do with some of the classics that get overrated. In my dad's day, he'd get a chance to see them once in the theaters and then not again. When I was a kid, they'd run particularly profitable movies in the theaters again after a few years (I think Disney flicks re-ran every seven years, IIRC). Then when they started putting movies on TV, you got to see them once every few years. Once a year at a particular time, if it was a 'beloved favorite' (my mom let me stay up until midnight every year to see Frankenstein and Psycho. Thanks, mom!).

Then when tape and DVD came out and you could see movies as often as you wanted -- and pause them, back up and whatever -- it was like, "oh. Right. This is kind of crap, isn't it?"

Dave_
January 8th, 2009, 04:11 PM
this whine-fest is starting to go Dutch heights.


the saw series fail at scaryness, its more hillarious then scary tbh.

JailHouseRock2
January 10th, 2009, 08:26 PM
This thread:

"You know that movie that everybody loves? I think it sucks!"
OR
"You know that movie that made a ton of money but everyone said sucked? I think it sucks, too!

...x ∞

I know everyone likes to prove how unique and superior their taste is, and it's sometimes hard to pass up a whine-fest (especially when all the other kids are doing it), but COME ON.
To quote Dr. Kermode (since he's already been brought up), "everyone involved should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves."

Well said mate!

Moai
January 10th, 2009, 09:53 PM
(Ignoring the detractors of this thread)

2001: A Space Odyssey. I've heard it described as a science-fiction landmark many times, but I was disappointed, and in fact somewhat irritated. So many long, dragging sequences, often with annoying sound effects in the background. Utter failure in the storytelling department, especially when things get weird at the end. They only way you'll be able to make sense out of the end part is if you've read the books (which, though enjoyable, are also somewhat irritating, but that's another story).
The special effects are impressive even today, though. Model spaceships kick CG spaceships' asses any day.

FightingSeraph
January 10th, 2009, 11:06 PM
Moai: Here's a fun fact: Hal Labs., the creators of Kirby and Hyperzone, was named after the Hal 9000 in that movie.

SigonWulf
January 12th, 2009, 06:30 AM
Any Jack Black or Will Ferrel movie. They're funny guys but its time to give it a rest already. Oh and someone tell Will that he is not required to star in 2-3 movies a year.

Twilight was overrated. It was okay but not the masterpiece so many girls are claiming it to be.

Fraz
January 12th, 2009, 04:06 PM
I am one of those idiots that love every movie, and cannot stop watching it until I see the end. I am yet to come across a film that I haven't enjoyed to some extent.

FightingSeraph
January 25th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Many of you will hate me for mentioning this, but I just saw Titanic and it bored me to hell. I consider that one on the list of "The Most Pretentious Movies Ever Made."

ian.
February 6th, 2009, 04:02 AM
Slumdog Millionaire; this movie was insanely the most overated movie I have ever seen. Left and right were praises from the media and 10 oscar nom.

Comeon; it had terrible character development and one of the most predictable endings ever. I was turned off right from the start of it.

Flaccid.

Vehkt
February 6th, 2009, 10:04 AM
The Nightmare Before Christmas, The Corpse Bride - We get it Tim, you do dark films. You're like the embodiment of a goth orgasm.

Clodioz
February 6th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Requiem for a dream.
Trainspotting.
Twilight
Snatch
Big lebowski. Boooooooooooring.

Dusty
February 7th, 2009, 04:00 AM
Requiem for a dream.
Trainspotting.
Twilight
Snatch
Big lebowski. Boooooooooooring.

Other than Twilight (which I have not seen, and have no interest in seeing) it is apparent to me that I am completely opposite to you.

All of those movies are awesome....
(Even though I can't watch RfaD more than the two times I have seen it)

-D

Vehkt
February 7th, 2009, 08:24 PM
I don't know if it's over-rated but it took an hour and a half of my life away without giving me a satisfied feeling: Open Water.

Dusty
February 9th, 2009, 01:41 PM
I don't know if it's over-rated but it took an hour and a half of my life away without giving me a satisfied feeling: Open Water.

Open Water is just one of those movies that is following the recent trend of "It's scary because it's depressing". Personally, I prefer horror movies to be a bit more "fun" in the way they scare you...or if it isn't fun, at least its just badass like Hellraiser or something.

I agree, Open Water left me feeling pretty empty inside after watching it.
Maybe some people like that shit, but not me....and I am a die hard horror fan.

-D

wiggum
March 5th, 2009, 10:23 AM
Dwarf tossing. They put a dwarf tossing joke in a Lord of the Rings movie. Seriously not cool.

Night before last, we tried to sit all the way through There Will Be Blood. What the hell? Two hours and ten minutes into it, we realized it didn't have enough time left to get better.

I was amazed when I checked the online reviews, how much people loved it and dogpiled on anyone who disagreed. Whatever they saw, I can't see it.

I DRINK YOUR MIIILKSHAAAAKE!!!!!! i drink it up!!! *makes slurping sound*

I can't give you a good reason why but I absolutely loved every second of this film (Its the only movie I ever watch twice in a row). Especially the music when the oil derek got destroyed. Although by the end of it I was a little creeped out by how much I related to the main character. Besides, who wouldn't like a movie that has an ending like that?

As far as overrated movies go:

Saw, admittedly I'm not into torture flicks but something about the whole premise here agrivates me. It just seems like Jigsaw is torturing people to death over really stupid things.

Rosemary's Baby, if I live to be 1000 I will never understand why people think this movie is so good. Once she gets that horrible haircut about half way in I couldn't think of anything other than how bad it looked.

Napoleon Dynamite, I thought that, for an independent movie, this was exceptionally well done. Still, this simply didn't justify the kind of hype it got.

Bourne Movies, can't explain why, but I just hated these.

I could probably think of more, but I might get myself in trouble.

FightingSeraph
March 5th, 2009, 01:23 PM
All I have to say here is: "Keep posting, I'd like to see more!"

RocketMonkey
March 25th, 2009, 08:29 AM
Wow, where to begin...? Ok, how's about this one:

Titanic

What a load of poo

vampire cervix
March 26th, 2009, 05:51 PM
well i saw "suspiria" last night and wikipedia said it's regarded as one of the best horrors ever but i thought it was crap.

FightingSeraph
April 9th, 2009, 09:56 PM
I'd like to add another to my overrated choices: Speed Racer
The reason: From what I saw, Too many unintentional laughs and the colors are somewhat hard on the eyes.

RocketMonkey
April 10th, 2009, 08:35 AM
Not so much overrated as just plan rubbish:

The Fast & The Furious
2 Fast & 2 Furious
The Fast & The Furious 3: Tokyo Sh1t
Fast & Furious (even though I haven't seen it yet)

Best movie Vin Diesel was ever in: Saving Private Ryan

FightingSeraph
April 18th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Pan's Labyrinth: Great animatronics, but this was a major case of poor pacing, pretension, and just plain boring. I'll take the Conan films over this one any day.

RocketMonkey
April 19th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Watched Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem last night with the wife. It was shite

Losdog
April 27th, 2009, 07:13 PM
the english patient, enough said.

Flashback
April 27th, 2009, 08:13 PM
Every movie ever made.

Straight Edge Ryan
April 27th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Saving Private Ryan

The main reason I say this is because I was in 5th grade when it came out and EVERYONE in the whole fucking school had to come up to me and say "hey Ryan we have to save your private! HUR HUR HUR"

MAN THAT SHIT SURE NEVER GOT OLD

THOSE FUCKING 5th GRADE CUNTS

Straight Edge Ryan
April 28th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Saw, admittedly I'm not into torture flicks but something about the whole premise here agrivates me. It just seems like Jigsaw is torturing people to death over really stupid things.

You are not alone, I went on a big rant about this with some friends the other night. I think it was Saw 4 where the whole premise was a guy who held a grudge against a guy that accidentally killed his son in a car accident, near the end he's given the choice to either a)save the guy, and in doing so get shot in the face with a shotgun or b)allow the guys arms, legs and eventually neck to be broken. And I was like "What? Jigsaw somehow thinks that murdering someone is less morally wrong than silently holding a grudge? This dude's murdered several perfect strangers because they had some moderate personality flaws and he has the balls to put himself on a moral pedestal??"

Carnifex
April 29th, 2009, 10:48 AM
bridget jones.
GOOD GOD I HATE THAT MOVIE!
this is probably the only film that made me want to gauge out my own eyes,ever.
edit: yeah,the saw franchise probably is,too. i saw the first one,it was quite clever and ok,but i don't need to see it a second time. and the rest's just money milking.
edit2: oh,ohhh texas chainsaw massacre. wtf.

FightingSeraph
May 2nd, 2009, 11:04 PM
To all of you who put Saw in this thread: You're not the only ones who think this. Try watching both of the Baron von Brunk Vs. Saw cartoons when you get the chance.

RocketMonkey
May 10th, 2009, 04:24 PM
10,000 BC was rather amusing, if a little sh1te...

Dorkthrone
May 10th, 2009, 09:30 PM
I'd like to add another to my overrated choices: Speed Racer
The reason: From what I saw, Too many unintentional laughs and the colors are somewhat hard on the eyes.

Was it really rated at all?

Moai
May 15th, 2009, 12:35 AM
Watchmen!

I just saw it. After reading such comments on this site that it "was about as good as a Watchmen movie could be," I was very disappointed. The pacing was off (particularly in the final scenes). The dialog was off. The performances were lackluster. The changes to the plot were unnecessary, and in my opinion, made the story much less interesting.
As an adaptation of the graphic novel, this movie could have been very much better indeed.

Aside from that, though, it's uncanny how well the lyrics to "All Along the Watchtower" fit that situation in the movie.

FightingSeraph
May 16th, 2009, 10:07 PM
Was it really rated at all?

Yeah, and while it was ok; it doesn't deserve the hype that it got.

RocketMonkey
May 19th, 2009, 01:17 PM
Wanted. What a complete waste of nearly two hours of my life...

Dethklaus
June 4th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Not even Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson was enough to save Snakes on a Plane.
I think we can all agree that this was one of the most overhyped debacles in recent years. I mean, Hell, someone made a goddamn SONG about this movie. (I didn't like the song either.)

Dorkthrone
June 4th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Not even Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson was enough to save Snakes on a Plane.
I think we can all agree that this was one of the most overhyped debacles in recent years. I mean, Hell, someone made a goddamn SONG about this movie. (I didn't like the song either.)

I don't know, Snakes on a Plane is sort of enjoyable in the Plan 9 from Outer Space way. As an actual movie, it is pretty terrible.

Straight Edge Ryan
June 4th, 2009, 11:54 PM
Yeah I think snakes on a plane was intentionally bad

Oh and does anyone else think Quentin Tarantino movies are overrated? I mean Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, Grindhouse, and Reservoir Dogs are all good but I mean it's like a lot of people act like everything that guy does turns to gold

Brashen
June 5th, 2009, 02:51 AM
I love how artists are bashing other artists work....but if there was any movie or set of movies that needed to be pooped on (keeping aside the artistic assets of course) is the SAW series....fuck me if that wasn't a load of fly shit piled into one big heap.

FightingSeraph
June 12th, 2009, 08:01 PM
Here's something I just remembered watching a few years ago: Halloween Ressurection. I haven't seen the original, but this just wasn't scary at all.

JackHatesJack
June 13th, 2009, 02:14 AM
The Godfather Trilogy. I can't watch any of the movies for more than half an hour. Though the hospital scene in the first is pretty cool.

Dethklaus
June 13th, 2009, 02:33 AM
I don't know, Snakes on a Plane is sort of enjoyable in the Plan 9 from Outer Space way. As an actual movie, it is pretty terrible.

Yeah I think snakes on a plane was intentionally bad

Hmm, I may have to re-watch this film with that in mind, then.
I'd also suggest "The Happening", but then again I haven't met one person yet who claimed to have had high hopes for that to begin with. Anyone?

яequiem
June 13th, 2009, 02:35 AM
Any of the Harry Potter movies, Goodfellas (though I did like it, it wasn't as good as everyone made it out to be.)

JackHatesJack
June 13th, 2009, 04:35 AM
Goodfellas (though I did like it, it wasn't as good as everyone made it out to be.)

Agreed. I think knowing a LOT of hardcore "Italian-Americans" I'm going to find just about every movie about the mob overrated.

Except for Johnny Dangerously.

яequiem
June 13th, 2009, 02:31 PM
Except for Johnny Dangerously.

I love that movie.

"You shouldn't grab me, Johnny. My mother grabbed me once... ONCE! "

Crass
July 5th, 2009, 12:22 PM
The Lord of the Rings trilogy

I really cannot understand what is so incredible about these movies, admittedly I am not a huge fantasy fan but even if I were I'm not sure that would redeem them.

FightingSeraph
July 5th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Paprika: I know a lot of you will hate me for mentioning this, but even though it's well-produced; it wasn't the first movie that dealt with the nature of dreams. On the other hand, it still beats Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann.

WhizBang
July 13th, 2009, 04:28 AM
Wow, where to begin...? Ok, how's about this one:

Titanic

What a load of poo

Agreed. Who cares if it raked in a ton of cash. I never thought it was that good. Technically Cameron was king of detail, but story? Snore.