View Full Version : Chow 136 :: GOBLIN GUNSLINGER
S.C. Watson
November 17th, 2008, 09:38 PM
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ROUND #136 :: GOBLIN GUNSLINGER
DESCRIPTION
Just what it says: A Goblin Gunslinger - however it needs to be an orthographic view. (Front, Side, Back). Greyscale or color. The rest is wide open.
[EDIT] Just for clarification - the character doesn't have to an "Old West" or cowboy style goblin - so long as it is a goblin with a gun, we're good - type of gun and time period are open.
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S.C. Watson
November 17th, 2008, 09:38 PM
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Sorknes
November 17th, 2008, 09:48 PM
Ooooh... this sounds fun :D
Btw, for those of you (like me) have trouble following the PST, THIS SITE (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/) has a nice clock that'll keep you updated.... :P
humboldt squid
November 17th, 2008, 10:22 PM
pretty awesome topic, I havn't really decided on anything yet (even if he's gonna be a good guy or not) but I think I might be leaning towords something more comical and cartoony, I dunno.
Vorace
November 17th, 2008, 10:39 PM
it's funnybecause I have been drawing goblins for the last 2 weeks haha
great topic, can we add an illustration or concept variations to support the ortho views in the final?
S.C. Watson
November 17th, 2008, 10:46 PM
can we add an illustration or concept variations to support the ortho views in the final?
Sure - go for it, though the main focus this week is the ortho. So don't lose focus!
~Oreg.
MJ_Alcazar
November 17th, 2008, 11:03 PM
Quick question, with orthographic views, do you depict the character in anatomical position?
S.C. Watson
November 17th, 2008, 11:05 PM
Quick question, with orthographic views, do you depict the character in anatomical position?
... not sure I'm following you.
MJ_Alcazar
November 17th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Ok, when I was looking up orthographic views, they seemed to be in anatomical position. Which is legs together, feet flat, hands at sides and palms forward. For the most part.
I was wondering if that was what orthographic view was, or if they could be posed in front, side and back position. I saw a few of those too.
If that's still confusing, I'll just wait and see what everyone does and I'll get it! :)
S.C. Watson
November 17th, 2008, 11:16 PM
Ok, when I was looking up orthographic views, they seemed to be in anatomical position. Which is legs together, feet flat, hands at sides and palms forward. For the most part.
I was wondering if that was what orthographic view was, or if they could be posed in front, side and back position. I saw a few of those too.
If that's still confusing, I'll just wait and see what everyone does and I'll get it! :)
I'm going to say yes, for the most part :)
However, I am willing to defer to those who have more experience with doing ortho views than myself - so if someone wants to pipe in on this, feel free.
Regards,
~Oreg.
AfroLaxMan
November 17th, 2008, 11:56 PM
my idea, a female booty kickin goblin, even with kung-fu grip, and working hunting rifle! Order now!
¿Dubious?
November 18th, 2008, 12:09 AM
psyched I am.
hungryan
November 18th, 2008, 01:08 AM
One question to clarify things:
Gunslinger means here a wild west theme, or can it be a goblin with any kind of gun? The wikipedia entry of gunslinger states it's a wild west expression, but for me a bit more free interpretation would be better, that's why I ask.
earFuzz
November 18th, 2008, 03:24 AM
Hello!
After Marama and watching Marko's DVD I'm feeling pretty motivated. The goal is to finish something, and here's the start of it. I'm always open to ideas and feedback.
This guy used to be someone's sidekick before they got gunned down and now is facing some hard times on his own. He likes to think he's more sophisticated than he actually is, and doesn't realize that snacking on vulture stew doesn't really go over well with the posh people.
Things to include:
-Bowler hat
-Bowlegged
-Bow tie, more like a tied ribbon
-light brown corduroy pants frayed from the knee down to look like flairs.
-vest is a bit darker than the pants, too small for him, frayed in places.
-shirt was white but is now dirty, has sweat stains, sleeves rolled up to the forearm (to hide potential forearm rotation pinching in 3D)
-big triangular collar
-nose has deviated septum
Anyway, there's still lots to do, seeya. :)
Oden
November 18th, 2008, 04:28 AM
Hello!
This guy used to be someone's sidekick before they got gunned down and now is facing some hard times on his own. He likes to think he's more sophisticated than he actually is, and doesn't realize that snacking on vulture stew doesn't really go over well with the posh people.
Things to include:
-Bowler hat
-Bowlegged
-Bow tie, more like a tied ribbon
-light brown corduroy pants frayed from the knee down to look like flairs.
-vest is a bit darker than the pants, too small for him, frayed in places.
-shirt was white but is now dirty, has sweat stains, sleeves rolled up to the forearm (to hide potential forearm rotation pinching in 3D)
-big triangular collar
-nose has deviated septum
Anyway, there's still lots to do, seeya. :)
I like this idea! if you've read any Terry Pratchett, your description kind of reminds me of Nobby Nobbs. Go with it...:)
Daray
November 18th, 2008, 04:57 AM
I'm going to say yes, for the most part :)
However, I am willing to defer to those who have more experience with doing ortho views than myself - so if someone wants to pipe in on this, feel free.
Regards,
~Oreg.
It depends what Industry you work in really! Game design Ortho views are front, back and side, and animation are front, back, 3/4 shot. Or well that's what I was told at Uni.
:)
YIIT
November 18th, 2008, 06:22 AM
It depends what Industry you work in really! Game design Ortho views are front, back and side, and animation are front, back, 3/4 shot. Or well that's what I was told at Uni.
:)
Yep And as far as I remember (took my technical drawing 101 course back at 1998) Architectural Orthographic views are Top+ Front+ Side + 45 degree top down view left or right side... :D
The_Macedonian
November 18th, 2008, 09:34 AM
I'm in:steph:, but I'm new in this activity so can u tell me what is the deadline?
arttorney
November 18th, 2008, 09:40 AM
5 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, November 24, 2008.
Read first post carefully for other pertinent details.
S.C. Watson
November 18th, 2008, 11:06 AM
One question to clarify things:
Gunslinger means here a wild west theme, or can it be a goblin with any kind of gun? The wikipedia entry of gunslinger states it's a wild west expression, but for me a bit more free interpretation would be better, that's why I ask.
That's fine - when I came up with the idea, I originally thought a goblin with a blunderbuss would be cool, but chose to describe the character as a "goblin gunslinger" because sounded better.
So, it doesn't necessarily have to be an old west goblin - but it does need to be a goblin with a gun!
~Oreg.
prepsage
November 18th, 2008, 01:13 PM
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6096/chow13602li0.jpg
goblin eastwood,manwithnoname,techno-gunslinger, pewpew WIP
Sublimus
November 18th, 2008, 02:26 PM
OH snap! This will def be my first chow entry! I hope I can live up to the standard you guys set! :P
[edit1] Here is the sketch, time to put it to ortho (and paint this one out!)
[edit 2] Progress on the painting, must start orthos!
corspufo
November 18th, 2008, 02:29 PM
friggen sweet topic. I'm in baby.
Prepsage, like the pose and the attitude.
AfroLaxMan: I like the head orthos but the pose of the figure looks silly. More of a runway model than goblin.
BlightedArt
November 18th, 2008, 02:59 PM
So... I'm juuuuust a little curious. I have this pretty interesting idea here and need to ask if we can get away with "crazy modifications" to the guns the Goblin will be using?
Thanks. :D
~baxter
November 18th, 2008, 03:10 PM
Definitely going to be hopping on board for this one, I finally have some time to sit down and just draw :D
Daray
November 18th, 2008, 03:30 PM
For those a little stuck with the Orthographic views when it comes to design, the folks who did the Warhammer: Age of Reckoning concept art are gods. Taken from the site admittedly :)
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BlightedArt
November 18th, 2008, 03:36 PM
So here's what I've got so far... any help at all would be appreciated:
- Facial features representing a hawk (nose area, but more so the eyes to portray "eyes of a hawk" / trained marksman)
- A sort of 19th Century North American hat (saw it on Fable and liked it, sort of like the Leprichaun hats? If someone knows the proper name please tell me, it's driving me nuts!)
- A boomerang gun, two of them actually. He's quite literally a gun-slinger.
Artificially Awake
November 18th, 2008, 04:28 PM
this one sounds fun ^^
S.C. Watson
November 18th, 2008, 04:39 PM
So... I'm juuuuust a little curious. I have this pretty interesting idea here and need to ask if we can get away with "crazy modifications" to the guns the Goblin will be using?
Thanks. :D
yah - go nuts. These are goblins for Pete's sake. I doubt anything they have is going to be even remotely "normal" or unmodified.
The wackier, the better :geekg:
~Oreg.
corspufo
November 18th, 2008, 04:47 PM
I've put together some thumbnails during lunch. One thing that I'm thinking about with the character is to keep him calm and collected. Most goblins (at least in D&D settings) are deranged psychopaths with a berserker hunger for destruction. I'm thinking that's what separates the the Gunslinger from the rest of the pack. He still has an apatite for destruction but has to keep his cool when he aims his guns. Also, I was toying with the idea of the goblin packing a giant six-shooter (a la Kid Revolver) and having it strapped either to his back or another Goblin's back. Just ideas, what do you think?
Presage: nice update
BlightedArt
November 18th, 2008, 05:09 PM
The bottom head-on portrait you have going is quite good corspufo. Especially for the composed stance that you mentioned you were going for. Just keep in mind the subtle stance tells that are relevant to culture, for example:
Thumbs-in-the-belt Western:
http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/18458.jpg
Some of the poses you have there seem to be a little off-the-mark, and seem more akin to ninja's (like the bottom left sprinting pose you have there). Keep in mind that gunslingers are meant to be fast on their feet, yes, but more importantly they're incredibly dextrous and nimble with their hands. The sprinting pose looks like he has enough speed and leg-power to jump over chasms and engage in close combat, and doesn't fully fit the gunslinger persona.
But keep going, I'm really looking forward to your final. :D
DefiledVisions
November 18th, 2008, 05:25 PM
Cool stuff people!.. first thing I come to think of is the Warcraft universe and WotC: Magic TDCgame .. tons of inspiration there!
rodriguez
November 18th, 2008, 05:37 PM
Hey everybody looks like this is gonna be a great round
hope i have enough time this week
doodles
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naomiful
November 18th, 2008, 05:40 PM
lol
What's wrong with a sprinting ninja goblin with a gun?
;(
haha
corspufo
November 18th, 2008, 06:00 PM
thanks for the advice Blighted art. But really I am going for something with a fantasy stylized western air, something along the lines of of Samurai Champloo meets Sukiyaki Western Django (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nluPs-nGngk&feature=related). So the fast action, dancing acrobatics mixed with Western Flair mixed with Fantasy overtones is my end intention. Now we'll see if I can actually get there.
BlightedArt
November 18th, 2008, 06:29 PM
thanks for the advice Blighted art. But really I am going for something with a fantasy stylized western air, something along the lines of of Samurai Champloo meets Sukiyaki Western Django (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nluPs-nGngk&feature=related). So the fast action, dancing acrobatics mixed with Western Flair mixed with Fantasy overtones is my end intention. Now we'll see if I can actually get there.
Epic, in that case, can't wait to see what you come up with! :D
Mock
November 18th, 2008, 08:40 PM
For some reason I can't get the image of a goblin riding a giant gatlin gun into an old west town Dr. Strangelove style.
madhatter106
November 18th, 2008, 09:32 PM
For some reason I can't get the image of a goblin riding a giant gatlin gun into an old west town Dr. Strangelove style.
LOL. "Hey, what about Major Kong?" ;)
MJ_Alcazar
November 18th, 2008, 11:39 PM
Only got one idea down, my head is spinning with ideas though. I might try to sketch a few of those out too.
OR, I could actually work on the wonky anatomy problems and stick with this one. :) Looking good everyone. Can't wait to see the ideas people are coming up with!
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0019-2.jpg
Wolfentir
November 19th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Hey all, this is my first CHOW, doubt I'll finish it in time, but i really liked the idea so i did a quick sketch. Lemme know what you guys think.
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Hookswords
November 19th, 2008, 03:01 AM
Some initial doodles. The idea is that he will have at least two of those pistols. The sight on the gun is a direct feed to his goggles creating a cyberpunkesque smart gun.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/215/ggdoodlecopyej5.jpg
Foofea
November 19th, 2008, 05:46 AM
Time permitting
I have a tongue in cheek idea of how to do this one ;)
Flipnastywebby
November 19th, 2008, 12:45 PM
if i get more time this weekend ill rock something out
this was a speedy paint, 45m, granted the final, if done, wont look like this.
earFuzz
November 19th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Just workin' on some stuff:
-Proportion studies (front view is easy but what would his side view posture look like? this was actually on lined spiral notebook paper, traced it for scan)
-Rough block-in of orthos (made a simple grid in inkscape and printed it to draw on)
-tiny cleanup with tracing paper
-layer on some clothing with tracing paper
Enlarged the orthos to 8x10, printed and need to do some detailing and fix some matching issues with tracing paper.
:scribble:
edit: inked a bit, did some pencil shading, etc etc
prepsage
November 19th, 2008, 01:27 PM
corspufo: Awesome sketches. Really got some great characters there already.
hookswords: be careful he doesn't look too much like vash the stampede in the end.
Keeviin
November 19th, 2008, 03:17 PM
BlightedArt - Awesome facial features, I'd almost shamelessly copy that ;)
Only a sketch so far, hope this still fits the theme of "gunslinger". I mean if you detach the term "gunslinger" from its wild-west context, what is left except for some maniac on a killing spree? So I decided to go for the "insane-goblin-with-ridiculously-over-sized-(mini)-gun"- thing.
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Pixeltuner
November 19th, 2008, 03:21 PM
bitches be flyin' already. Keep em coming! Here's my first take. No idea where I'm going to take this, because I'm rather lacking a clear cut vision of what a Goblin should look like to me. Looks a bit moronic and a bit too bulky I guess.
Any tips?
Hookswords
November 19th, 2008, 04:17 PM
corspufo: Awesome sketches. Really got some great characters there already.
hookswords: be careful he doesn't look too much like vash the stampede in the end.
Ah! Holy crap! I didnt even think about that, good call. I had the assassin's coat from Fable II on the brain. Gonna have to adjust that.
BlightedArt
November 19th, 2008, 04:36 PM
BlightedArt - Awesome facial features, I'd almost shamelessly copy that ;)
Only a sketch so far, hope this still fits the theme of "gunslinger". I mean if you detach the term "gunslinger" from its wild-west context, what is left except for some maniac on a killing spree? So I decided to go for the "insane-goblin-with-ridiculously-over-sized-(mini)-gun"- thing.
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Try writing up a little backstory to your character before working on his appearance, when you work to a brief background, your character will become more convincing since he'll have a sense of history behind him.
The oversized-gun-holding-crazy-goblin still fits in the theme yeah. :)
Desmayado
November 19th, 2008, 05:55 PM
El Charro in progress
corspufo
November 19th, 2008, 07:08 PM
Desmayado: That's a pretty cool idea. I like the Mariachi meets masked vaquero look. Sweet stuff so far.
Pixelturner: I like the rendering technique you've got. I agree with your comments. Seems a bit top heavy for a goblin. I would suggest lengthening the arms for a more ape/simian look. Really it's the arms and facial expression that bother me. The expression seems like a simpleton got hold of a gun, rather than an expert wielding his death dispenser.
♦♦Jackdaw♦♦
November 19th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Wow. Really cool topic.
Vorace
November 20th, 2008, 02:55 AM
cool stuff guys!
ortho wip :
Pixeltuner
November 20th, 2008, 04:50 AM
Desmayado: That's a pretty cool idea. I like the Mariachi meets masked vaquero look. Sweet stuff so far.
Pixelturner: I like the rendering technique you've got. I agree with your comments. Seems a bit top heavy for a goblin. I would suggest lengthening the arms for a more ape/simian look. Really it's the arms and facial expression that bother me. The expression seems like a simpleton got hold of a gun, rather than an expert wielding his death dispenser.
thanks :) I'll take a shot on a more menacing goblin then with a more 'simian' approach.
Mutley
November 20th, 2008, 05:57 AM
Here is a first sketch of goblin face character. I'm sure in the end will not look like this. :P
sony
November 20th, 2008, 08:10 AM
Did the concept mood, will do the front, etc, orthos! :yum:
Abrodos
November 20th, 2008, 09:40 AM
Hi! here's mine, inspired on catalan "Bandolers" and touareg women. I thought hardly anybody would made a female goblin!
nimbusnacho
November 20th, 2008, 12:41 PM
So I've started the past few chows but never really got anywhere, which sucks cuz I like where my Agatha was going. I figured it's cuz I never show my wip so I'm not really committing.
Anyway, here's a few silhouettes that look more like scribbling(don't usually do them, I think it helped a lot though so I'll stay with that part of the process). I wound up choosing one of the first ones I did I think it's dynamic enough yet not too complicated to do the three different views of it. Not sure what to do about design for clothing/armor, thinking going a bit like post-apoc type minimal technology (like the goggles) with I dunno, other random things like a high collar to give him personality.
And I was going to try to figure out what a post-apoc goblin tech gun would look like, for some reason I think a goblin would use a rifle mainly, maybe I just want to draw a rifle.
We'll see.
AlotAbitAlittle
November 20th, 2008, 01:07 PM
Arbrodos - you're right, not many have explored a female goblin. I thought about it too. Watch your proportions. Unless it was intended, the head is a little large, and the hands and feet could use some work. I would find some reference to help you keep your proportions in check.
Mutely I like the colors and texture. Look forward to seeing where you go with it.
Vorace Looking good
Pixelturner I would take a look at the arms, chest and feet. All of the forms seem to be a little static and rectangular. Perhaps adding some more shape and contour to these areas could help bring the visual interest you are looking for.
Hookswords
November 20th, 2008, 01:17 PM
SO I was thinking. This is a really interesting topic. The word gunslinger has a connotation of expertise, while goblins are usually depicted as anything but. So to make a haphazard little creature an epic weapon master has a real interest to it.
I cant help but visualize an awful pun. Like a goblin with a catapult with the bucket full of guns. Funny, but not good ortho material.
Having a lot of fun doodling this one. I hope to put some more solid stuff to pixels soon
Pixeltuner
November 20th, 2008, 01:39 PM
alotabitalittle:thx :) but there was a lot wrong anyways and I didn't really like the design so I started with a new one. Still has flaws, but it's a better starting point. Here's Mr. Bulldoggoblin :p
earFuzz
November 20th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Humboldt squid: I like the guy with a cigarette, maybe if he was more goblinny?
Pixelturner: i like this one a lot more, a bit dark up top, but he has personality.
Desmayado: He looks great, Banderas would be proud, tronco.
MJ: I like it, she looks like she's from Shadowrun, which i like.
Rodriguez: I like the profile head the most
AfroLaxMan: I'm learning from those heads how to approach my own.
Prepsage: nice painting, I'd like to to light like that.
Sublimus: he's cool, i like longer noses personally
BlightedArt: BushGoblin, love it, boomerang gun is clever
Corspufo: pretty cool, i like the grey front-view head in the middle
Wolfentir: looks like a guy i went to school with
Hookswords: cool stylization,
Flipnastywebby: I like the sense of light, and the interesting head shape
Keeviin: Cool but i think he has an akward grip with his right hand
Vorace: sweeet
Mutley: nice painting, wish i could do that
Sony: Very cool
Abrodos: She's spicy, good idea to go female. I like bigger noses personally.
Nimbusnacho: cool, i think you should draw a rifle.
rswanson
November 20th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Ok, so here's my first attempt at a CHOW. MY first attempt at any of the CA weekly activities, actually. Hopefully I don't disqualify myself by missing one of the rules, which I tend to be poor in following at times.
Anywho, here's the initial concept sketch. It's probably too bland to 'score well' but I was going for instant readibility. Basically what I had in mind was a goblin and a gunslinger, in the classic sense of both words...to me that equates to a nasty little bugger that's quick to pull iron. Too generic?
Daray
November 20th, 2008, 02:51 PM
I know some people have gone down for small sketched illustrations but please remember the final poll will be for the Orthagraphic views of the character :)
Mr.Wittmann
November 20th, 2008, 03:03 PM
my first entry on chow :P
heres a wip
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9830/chowsketchki5.jpg
corspufo
November 20th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Pixelturner: looks a lot better. Sweet update. I would push the gun some more and you'd have something pretty cool.
Mr. Wittman: Welcome. I like how you did the head, but your hands and gun need more work. Visual Reference would carry you a long way.
Rswanson: I like the pose and attitude. I'd like to see you really push this into a finished piece, IMO it's the most gobliney one yet.
Sublimus
November 20th, 2008, 06:38 PM
Are we supposed to keep all of our updates in our first post?
rswanson
November 20th, 2008, 06:39 PM
I've decided what's a gunslinger without a cowboy hat? Or too generic?
rswanson
November 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Are we supposed to keep all of our updates in our first post?
Oh, good question. I've not submitted to the CA weekly's before so I'm not sure of the protocol.
RayTwicket
November 20th, 2008, 07:13 PM
sweet topic! hope i have time over the weekend.....nice work everyone
earFuzz
November 20th, 2008, 07:18 PM
Are we supposed to keep all of our updates in our first post?
I don't know either, probably a good idea?
♦♦Jackdaw♦♦
November 20th, 2008, 08:17 PM
Are we supposed to keep all of our updates in our first post?
Not sure.
I don't know about anyone else, but I never check previous pages for updates.. It's kinda nice when the posts are in chronological order.
Maybe that just me... :dur:
Mods?
Daray
November 20th, 2008, 08:46 PM
there used to be a use one post for the update pictures, I'm sure of it, but it kinda got ignored :P
S.C. Watson
November 20th, 2008, 09:18 PM
Are we supposed to keep all of our updates in our first post?
It's not necessary in this thread. However, in the Finals thread you will need to do so. Trying to keep everything in one post here breaks up the flow of the thread and makes giving progressive crits challenging.
All the best,
~Oreg.
S.C. Watson
November 20th, 2008, 09:23 PM
my first entry on chow :P
Welcome!
check the length of the arms -Right now the are about twice as long as the should be.corspufo is dead on in suggesting some visual reference.
best,
~Oreg
wheezy
November 20th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Great work everyone!
WIP 3 Decided to start over and clean up and fix line art. I doubt I get this finished before CHOW deadline.
http://www.charlieharper.net/images/1108/chow136_wheezy_linefix.jpg
WIP 2 Trying to fix the sneaking hand and the sarape. No where near happy with the lighting. Have several light and dark passes to go.
http://www.charlieharper.net/images/1108/chow136_wheezy_whip1.jpg
WIP 1 Sketch
http://www.charlieharper.net/images/1108/chow136_wheezy.jpg
ZyklonB
November 20th, 2008, 11:35 PM
Hya guys!:) A quick front view sketch of a future goblin gunslinger.
MJ_Alcazar
November 21st, 2008, 12:11 AM
Well, turned out I didn't have as much time as I thought this week. But, I'm determined to get as much done as possible. Really great excercise for me.
I think my goblin is looking way too much like a human with really bad anatomy issues.
So, I'll probably throw this out and start again tomorrow.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0020-3.jpg
scorge
November 21st, 2008, 12:24 AM
rswanson: Damn, diggin it like crazy! I thought about the hat thing too but it looked pretty wierd. Yours looks great!
I'm in.
anibawl
November 21st, 2008, 01:25 AM
Rswanson... the Goblin Gunslinger up top without the hat looks awesome. The hatted one looks sweet too but the baldness gives it more character :D
Errghhh... I've been workin on a freakin Orthographic View of this one character that doesn't actually even look goblin-y at all :S... I'll post it soon. Orthgraphics are a hard .
Hookswords
November 21st, 2008, 02:13 AM
when it comes to goblins I cant help but think in D&D terms. I have seen excellent and memorable things done with them as rogues. So with that in mind, I'm trying to keep my goblin on the light and sneaky side with a few perks to give him an edge. His clothing is light with some camouflage for a sneak bonus, with a protection plate over the vitals (i.e. Josey Wales/ Back to the Future), goggles with zoom and patch in function for his gun's targeting, and his gauntlets have automated speed loaders for his silenced revolvers (holstered on his lower legs).
Very cool stuff coming out of this one. Keep up the awesome work folks!
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6154/gg2copycf6.jpg
hungryan
November 21st, 2008, 02:49 AM
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This is going to be a goblin sniper, still very much under development. I hope it's not too far from 'gunslinger'. I will have to make it look a bit more evil and nasty probably. Critiques welcome!
Mr.Wittmann
November 21st, 2008, 03:30 AM
Welcome!
check the length of the arms -Right now the are about twice as long as the should be.corspufo is dead on in suggesting some visual reference.
best,
~Oreg
thank you, i know the arm is very long but i was feeling free since its a goblin, but i will chance the arm ;)
EDIT:
It looks much better, thx :D
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9830/chowsketchki5.jpg
Wiggers
November 21st, 2008, 05:14 AM
Beautiful drawing Zyklon B, it's a real shame about your choice of name though!
Daray
November 21st, 2008, 06:02 AM
Quick lineart doodle of the idea I have for my gunslinger (minus her guns). I kinda wanted something a little tank girl-eqse for my gunslinger! Will get around to working on this more today with any luck :)
and quickly before work: MJ - She may look too human for you because of the porportions of the body. Goblin tend to be squat so if you make her legs shorter and her torso possibly, it should work ;)
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matias
November 21st, 2008, 07:56 AM
Love the topic, just working on my overall concept, hopefully I'll get time tpo squeek out an ortho!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/matias.jakku/Linking%20Files/Goblin%20Gunslinger%20wip.JPG
Cheers
Matias
Wiggers
November 21st, 2008, 08:30 AM
Not going have time to do this just wanted to do something.
Jangles
November 21st, 2008, 10:13 AM
This is what i'm working on. I just got my graphics tablet in so this is my first time using it. This is also my first COW
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/janglefish/goblin-1.jpg
timothee
November 21st, 2008, 01:40 PM
Here's what i've been working on in my free time this week. Hopefully, I can squeeeze some time in this weekend and finish the whole concept.
thelefthand
November 21st, 2008, 08:31 PM
Here is part of my WIP.
http://vintagegijoe1964.com/images/goblingunnerscreen.jpg
YIIT
November 21st, 2008, 09:07 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/3049437226_9c6b2ee9d9_b.jpg
MJ_Alcazar
November 21st, 2008, 10:54 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0021-2.jpg
There's several things I'm planning on changing, but I think it looks just a tad bit better. This ortho view thing is hard, but a really great excercise!
YIIT - amazing work as always, you're line work is beautiful.
Daray - I'm liking her, nice take and thanks for the suggestion.
¿Dubious?
November 21st, 2008, 11:26 PM
here is a face. More shall follow.
Sorknes
November 21st, 2008, 11:58 PM
Well, after trying to make a fully clothed one, I've now at least made a naked one..... Even if it's without feet. Everytime I clothe him it feels wrong though...
I'll have to see if I get any more time to do anything during the weekend.
*crosses fingers*
wheezy
November 22nd, 2008, 01:59 AM
YIIT - I freaking love it! I don't know if color could do that pencil work justice.
AndresArias
November 22nd, 2008, 01:59 AM
Always wanted to participate in the CHOWs...probably wont have the time to finish but here is my first attempt anyway
Here is a head study of my character, going for a more gothic cowboy doc holiday goblin, a sort of rock star, maniacal goblin,
try to get more done...
t i m
November 22nd, 2008, 02:05 AM
neat stuff guys, here's the start of mine..
Mr.Wittmann
November 22nd, 2008, 09:10 AM
wip: linework + base colors
now i only need the hear and details :D
but i have very little experience with hair,
do somebody have an ideas for colering a mohawk?
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2111/chowcolortexturego2.jpg
Goog
November 22nd, 2008, 09:25 AM
Here's my ortho. This is good cause it's my first ever ortho, really good practice.
hungryan
November 22nd, 2008, 11:49 AM
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Goblin skysniper continued, but a lot left to complete. Still no objections against bending the gunslinger theme this much? :)
Scotwith1T
November 22nd, 2008, 11:52 AM
I'll try this one, hopefully I can finish it this weekend.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6831/goblingunslingercopyug4.jpg
RosemaryDarling
November 22nd, 2008, 11:54 AM
TWOASIX: He looks like Iggy Pop!
The_Macedonian
November 22nd, 2008, 12:10 PM
I was wondering, are submashineguns counts as guns?, I mean it has the word gun in it
¿Dubious?
November 22nd, 2008, 01:30 PM
TWOASIX: He looks like Iggy Pop!
GOOD CALL. He totally does. In an awesome way though.
nimbusnacho
November 22nd, 2008, 03:41 PM
Here's an update:
MJ_Alcazar
November 22nd, 2008, 05:08 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0022-2.jpg
More progress.
dubious? - I'm liking the face!
Pixeltuner - yours is coming along nicely.
Goog - really liking this. Esp. the little details like the goblin emblem.
vandalfish
November 22nd, 2008, 11:34 PM
I probably won't be able to finish this, but I loved the subject so much I had to at least start something. I feel kind of lame for making her pretty and for giving her a top that shows most of her boobs for no reason, but, eh.
Jangles
November 23rd, 2008, 01:03 AM
here is an update of mine.
again, this is my first time using the graphics tablet.
hopefully i'll have time to complete this COW
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/janglefish/goblin2.jpg
Redfrog
November 23rd, 2008, 01:08 AM
Great topic and cool entries, peeps!
Here's a quick early concept for my gunslinger.
¿Dubious?
November 23rd, 2008, 03:22 AM
so now he has a body. For some reason I thought the top hat was really original when I drew it. Haha. Anyway the things on his back are something very like samurai flags hopefully that'll be clearer with more color/detail work.
scorge
November 23rd, 2008, 04:58 AM
Looking good folks!
Couldn't stand the way it was going, decided to redraw.
Back and side in the works.
Peter Stapleton
November 23rd, 2008, 05:52 AM
I didn't read the ortho part...whoops.
I'm not going to make the deadline.
Lesson learned: read the brief.
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Daray
November 23rd, 2008, 08:48 AM
Some of these are looking fantastic, nice to see some illustrations but I really hope those have ortho's to go with them, wouldn't want to see you miss out on poll because of it! :)
I've hit a totally block with mine, managed to get the base ortho of the body shape down, but it just looked completely boring to everyone elses. Kinda lacking in motivation to finish now :(
Arthur 'Two Sheds' - That illustration is ace, the colours are beautiful!
Refrog - I can't help but love how devious he looks. Would work well for a tattoo acutally! ;)
MJ - The poportions are looking a lot better now. I love how unique your design is and you're improving again with each chow. Damn your motivation! Share it with meeeee! :D
Mr.Wittmann
November 23rd, 2008, 09:10 AM
I see many are doing all the sides of the character... so...
Do wee need to make all the sides (front, side, back) or is it okay with only one of them?
Because i have only made one side and will not be able to finish if all sides are needed :\
zimfin
November 23rd, 2008, 10:13 AM
Wow! There is some really nice stuff here. I happened across this challenge today and it is the first time I will be participating in a CHOW, so I am definitely running late but that is fine by me. Here is my idea so far.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee272/zimfin/chow136_zimfin.jpg
Daray
November 23rd, 2008, 10:30 AM
I see many are doing all the sides of the character... so...
Do wee need to make all the sides (front, side, back) or is it okay with only one of them?
Because i have only made one side and will not be able to finish if all sides are needed :\
You need all 3 views for an orthagraphic :) I posted some help on the first page about it.
Mr.Wittmann
November 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM
You need all 3 views for an orthagraphic :) I posted some help on the first page about it.
oh sry :[ ...
im out then
but here is what i finished.
http://campnorth.tv/userart/MrWittmann652f112e1ee401663615c89ab538e4451d5.jpg
matjosh
November 23rd, 2008, 12:40 PM
Hi all. decided to participate in this one, so heres my gangsta goblin.
i dont think that i'll have the time for ortho's but will try.
"I shot the sheriff! But I didn't shoot the deputy..."
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3137/11smallbs6.jpg
wips
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8230/wipav0.jpg
Daray
November 23rd, 2008, 01:59 PM
Mattjosh: lol that is awesome :D
Mr.Wittmann: I'm sorry, hope I haven't ruined things for you, it was mentioned at the start and in the breif though :(
update: I suddenly got a spill of motivation and came up with a totally new goblin chick. yes, she will kick your arse :P erugh its come off horribly low res too, its not like that on the final.
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Mr.Wittmann
November 23rd, 2008, 02:39 PM
Mr.Wittmann: I'm sorry, hope I haven't ruined things for you, it was mentioned at the start and in the breif though :(
no problem, i really like how my goblin came through, maybe i join the next one... or i just return to cow :P
Daray
November 23rd, 2008, 02:53 PM
no problem, i really like how my goblin came through, maybe i join the next one... or i just return to cow :P
Don't do that, stay and have some fun with CHOW too! You goblin has come out very nice, its just a shame you do not have time to complete this round :)
rswanson
November 23rd, 2008, 02:58 PM
A quick post of the roughs for the ortho views. Mostly posting to show a WIP step. Ditched the hat.
This will probably mostly be linework for the final...provided i finish it before deadline. I'm still wrapping my head around painting digitally.
Redfrog
November 23rd, 2008, 04:14 PM
Here's the concept. Should be able to knock the orthos over tonite.
Daray
November 23rd, 2008, 04:42 PM
Ok, I think this is my final...well It kinda has to be, have no more time left! :D
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matjosh
November 23rd, 2008, 05:32 PM
my ortho view. small adjustments still need to be done. like finishing the feet, and drawing the gun into the side and back views.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9999/12smallra7.jpg
zimfin
November 23rd, 2008, 06:19 PM
Daray and matjosh: Nice work. good characters IMHO.
Rushing on here, hoping to get this finished in time.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee272/zimfin/chow136_zimfinwip2.jpg
¿Dubious?
November 23rd, 2008, 06:27 PM
Matjosh thats amazing. I love it.
Adam Schumpert
November 23rd, 2008, 06:39 PM
Well I'm not sure if I will have time to totally finish this up so I thought I would post what I have atm. All of the entries are looking neat I can't wait to see everyone's finals.
MJ_Alcazar
November 23rd, 2008, 07:18 PM
It looks like I won't get this finished. I won't be near my computer until late tomorrow. :( I probably should have colored them all at the same time, that might have saved me some time. I would try doing it for a few more hours, but alas, I get seizures if I stare at the computer screen to long. Thanksgiving break is this week, so I should have some time for this next CHOW.
Daray - glad you stayed! Awesome looking character, she looks like she could take these guys out!
Mr. Wittman - I hope you stay and join other CHOWS, the people here are very nice and there are really awesome topics that come up. :)
Matjosh - that is awesome! Love the take on it.
Adam Shumpert - love your gentleman gunslinger goblin. Very nice.
Redfrog - love your goblin! Hope you can get your orthos done.
zimfin - love his face! One seriously creepy looking goblin.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/goblingunslinger4.jpg
corspufo
November 23rd, 2008, 07:56 PM
MattJosh: Bad to the ass dude! That rocks!!
AdamSchumpert: I like yours as well. Good colors and nice attitude.
Zimfim: I'd like to see this finished, the rendering you have on the one face is pretty good. Although the proportions are off on the arms and feet. Though I do like the color palette you've chosen.
MJ Alcazar: I didn't know if you were planing on coloring all of the images? Right now, your colors are very soft, like you're painting with an airbrush. May I suggest a hardedge brush to lay your colors down, then go in with a soft brush or airbrush to add in the details.
DeKal
November 23rd, 2008, 09:59 PM
what a great fuckin round. i feel like ass that i can only contribute semi crappy little sketches but its all ive had time for lately so i figured id show my avatar.
mjalcazar - your progress is astounding man. do not stop
matias - so fucking dope man. style overload
matjosh - real interesting. i like the imprint on the coat a lot but im not sure about the gender of your goblin. the lack of genitalia and the leg anatomy suggest female but the face seems male. reguardless, very well done and dope style.
artdwx
November 24th, 2008, 04:02 AM
Here is mine at the last few hours.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/artdw2000/chow136.jpg
scorge
November 24th, 2008, 04:09 AM
Redfrog, Matjosh, Dekal: Killer shit gentlemen.
One more WIP before the final....
corspufo
November 24th, 2008, 04:48 AM
Hey guys, here's an update for ya'. I'm planning on being finished by tomorrow night, just wanted to show you where I was. Feed back would be appreciated.
Redfrog
November 24th, 2008, 04:50 AM
A bit rushed but here it is.
Some sensational entries people! :)
zimfin
November 24th, 2008, 05:49 AM
MattJosh: Bad to the ass dude! That rocks!!
AdamSchumpert: I like yours as well. Good colors and nice attitude.
Zimfim: I'd like to see this finished, the rendering you have on the one face is pretty good. Although the proportions are off on the arms and feet. Though I do like the color palette you've chosen.
MJ Alcazar: I didn't know if you were planing on coloring all of the images? Right now, your colors are very soft, like you're painting with an airbrush. May I suggest a hardedge brush to lay your colors down, then go in with a soft brush or airbrush to add in the details.
Thanks for the feedback. Could you explain where the proportions are off? I might have time to fix them!
MJ_Alcazar: Thanks. Yeah, he is pretty creepy!Lol.
ikuru
November 24th, 2008, 06:20 AM
Daray, ur outlines look too sharp here, a good way to avoid that, is to double the line layer and to blur it and take down the opacity to 30% or something, maybe even ad some color to the blurriness. ;) Nice work though.
zimfin
November 24th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Right, that is the front view pretty much done. Reduced the size of his left hand too. It was massive when I flipped the image!
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee272/zimfin/chow136_zimfinwip3.jpg
corspufo
November 24th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Zimfim: I like the style you're rendering in. Well done. I've attached a paintover I did for where I think your character should be. Mostly where I had been paying attention to was the profile view. The legs are very stiff and don't feel natural. Also, the positioning of the arm doesn't feel right. Lastly, and I think this will help with the image, is showing the back leg. It doesn't have to have detail, just an indication it's there. I think it'll add some depth and weight. Also, on your front view, I think you could touch up the elbow and foot where I've indicated. These are just my opinions, so take them if you'd like. I am enjoying your work.
ZyklonB
November 24th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Hya ! Really cool stuff guys :) ! - update for the ortho view. Not to happy about how it came out but I didn't have the time to try another one .:P
zimfin
November 24th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Zimfim: I like the style you're rendering in. Well done. I've attached a paintover I did for where I think your character should be. Mostly where I had been paying attention to was the profile view. The legs are very stiff and don't feel natural. Also, the positioning of the arm doesn't feel right. Lastly, and I think this will help with the image, is showing the back leg. It doesn't have to have detail, just an indication it's there. I think it'll add some depth and weight. Also, on your front view, I think you could touch up the elbow and foot where I've indicated. These are just my opinions, so take them if you'd like. I am enjoying your work.
Thanks for taking the time to do a paint-over/correction! I will definitely make changes as suggested. I had tried originally to show the other leg in the profile view but failed to find a decent angle. Yours is good. Before seeing this, I had thinned his face in profile too so it won't need as big an adjustment. One part I am still very unsure of is the back view. It looks like he's on tip-toes!
Daray
November 24th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Daray, ur outlines look too sharp here, a good way to avoid that, is to double the line layer and to blur it and take down the opacity to 30% or something, maybe even ad some color to the blurriness. ;) Nice work though.
aha! I've always wondered how to do that! Thank you will defiantely remember it for future pieces!:)
Dan!
November 24th, 2008, 03:24 PM
my take on the subject was that of a deployable unit a la star craft w/e
soooooo Dan! plays his Goblin Gunslinger + 15 damage to wacom tablet
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/DECYPL/Chow136_dan.jpg
corspufo
November 24th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Zimfim: your back very isn't bad. The thing is, since I see how your painting style is, I can visualize how the end result will be. I say keep going, keep the things in mind that I've pointed out and you should be fine. Also, remember to flip your canvas every now and then. Mistakes will pop out instantly when you see things from a different perspective.
MJ_Alcazar
November 24th, 2008, 06:42 PM
Thanks corspufo for the tips on the painting, will keep that in mind for the next piece!
BlightedArt
November 24th, 2008, 07:15 PM
Zimfim: I like the style you're rendering in. Well done. I've attached a paintover I did for where I think your character should be. Mostly where I had been paying attention to was the profile view. The legs are very stiff and don't feel natural. Also, the positioning of the arm doesn't feel right. Lastly, and I think this will help with the image, is showing the back leg. It doesn't have to have detail, just an indication it's there. I think it'll add some depth and weight. Also, on your front view, I think you could touch up the elbow and foot where I've indicated. These are just my opinions, so take them if you'd like. I am enjoying your work.
Also Zimfim, if you're adding the indication of that back leg in there (very nice tip, thanks corspufo!:) ), it'll be good to have the back leg somewhat transparent, or maybe give some sort of eraser-outline to the front leg to separate the depth of field between the front and back, and make the front leg more readable in silhouette.
Tried to find a good example, this is a trick that I heard from Keith Thompson, so here's one of his images:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9195/pestilentialzb4.jpg
Take a look at the arm holding the horn, and notice just where the cloth turban(?) and the arm meet... The arm, slightly further in the background, has been slightly erased following the outline of the turban in the foreground. It might be hard to see at first, but it's there.
Anyway, that's just a little tip to try and help you to separate the indicated background leg with the foreground one. :)
Edit: Okay, so this is a really quick crop 'n' sketch to try to better explain what I was rambling on about before:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6766/lawllp3.jpg
¿Dubious?
November 24th, 2008, 09:54 PM
sorry I didn't get in on this one guys. I think I went a little overboard with my first view and didn't manage to finish the ortho. Ah well Ill be in next week.
BlightedArt
November 24th, 2008, 09:58 PM
It's an interestin' idea mate. But you did go a little overboard there. Keep that drawing aside for the ideas, but distribute them across multiple characters next time instead of piling them on one character like a game of Buckaroo. :P
Remember that he's also a gunslinger, so focus should really be on the guns idea. If you have revolvers on the flags he carries, then that'd enforce that, but at the moment the clutter really obscures just what kind of character he is meant to resemble at first glance.
It still looks good though, and you've a lot of sweet ideas there, but pull-back on the reigns every now and then to prevent overcomplicated designs. :)
Mbyle
November 25th, 2008, 12:21 AM
There's some great characters in here!
I'm prolly not gonna have enough time to finish my other views up because of classes this week but I figured I'd post my sketch and painting of it.
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Quinn Simoes
November 25th, 2008, 12:23 AM
Didn't have time to complete this but I thought I would add it anyway. I hope to participate in the Goblin Boss round.
Really nice designs everyone.
DeKal
November 25th, 2008, 10:26 AM
QUINN thats awesome. definately a noticable improvment in your work. head is a little weird and lacks the expression id like to see but thats just me.
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