CHOW 134 :: The Eclectic, Eccentric Singer

[S.C. Watson]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/chowarchive/CHOW-LINES/CHOW-LINES-MEDUSA.jpg

ROUND #134 :: The Eclectic, Eccentric Singer

DESCRIPTION

The Eclectic, Eccentric Singer

Inspiration: Tom Waits "Brawlers, Bawlers and Bastards"

Description: A man or woman who has been around for a long time, their age disguised by wrinkles and scars that the times have written on their face. A person of faith, but not necessarily of a religion, just a power of greater than their own. No man tells them what to do with their life, they are guided by winds and season. A drifter by day and a power of soul by night. They travel from town to town, playing in low-lit bars, drinking to drown out a regretful past. They sleeps when they can, eats what people give them. Their clothes are dated to a time before modern day technology i.e. a tattered suit with old snakeskin boots.

Their only goal in their memorable life is to sing about their life story, full of tragedy and despair. They has a good heart but life and appearance shows different.

In short, a vagabond.
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:medusachow: Thank you to Equality72521 for this suggestion!
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[ikuru]

Cool subject, looking forward to seeing these babies. ;)

[Relic]

cant help to think about Amy Winehouse:)

[S.C. Watson]

cant help to think about Amy Winehouse:)

Nah. She's just frightening beyond all reason. We want someone who has some inherent cool about them :)

~Oreg.

[YIIT]

21st Century Siren Sketch

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/3003242352_7cf51b4524_o.jpg

21 st Century Siren sketch 2 (The docks)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3002545733_86ca22e55d_o.jpg

[hungryan]

This is kinda funny, I love Tom Waits, and made this quick colorsketch of him a couple of months ago. It will be hard to design a very different character with the same theme, seems like a tough challenge.

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[Lemmingwing]

love the topic, im a bass player myself :P

[S.C. Watson]

Some reference videos (Tom Waits)

God's away on Business
ExyRMqX8eOA

I don't want to grow up
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Chocolate Jesus
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For those unfamiliar with him, he's kind of an acquired taste. Kind of like French Roast.

All the best,
~Oreg.

[Pixeltuner]

'a real rocknrolla'
Well, here's a pose. I'm kind of attracted to the more Iggy Pop or Jim Morrison kind of character. Great topic!

UPDATE: Some base colour & details

[Equality72521]

Hells yeah, im all over this biatch!! Thanks for picking up the idea Oregano! Ill post WIP tomorrow cuz its time for work now

heres the link where i found those vagrant pictures
http://ziza.es/2007/07/23/page,1,3,La_vida_de_vagabundos_americanos_42_fotos .html

nothin better than MD 20/20s, whipits and meth, right?

[UCT]

YIIT - nice dude, loving the violin! Very ace.

Pixel tuner - looks cool but a bit aerosmith. nice work tho.

Nils Frykdahl from Faun Fables and Sleepytime Gorilla Muesum is deffinately an inspiration musically and within this brief cool as fuck 'out there' rocker.

Dont know who owns the copyrights to these images Ive googled.

Crazy goth guy with a statement.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DMtMTxLIASY

[MJ_Alcazar]

I'm running a blank pretty much. Quick idea sketch.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0012-5.jpg

EDIT: trying to fix anatomical errors. This is a hard topic!

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0013-4.jpg

[Aeronik]

I wasn't too excited at first by the topic, but the more I thought about it the more ideas came. At any rate I thought the old cadaverous rocker like Keith Richards or Iggy Pop would be a fun place to start. So here are some exploratory sketches to get into the swing of things.

http://www.users.on.net/~aeronik/chow/chow134_sketches01.jpg

And getting a bit more into the direction of the brief...

http://www.users.on.net/~aeronik/chow/chow134_sketches02.jpg
I hope to do some colour tests on these a bit later today.

Edit: Craggy!
http://www.users.on.net/~aeronik/chow/chow134_sketches03.jpg

[Pixeltuner]

UCT: Well, Steven Tyler is pretty much a worn out guy so it fits the brief partially. ;) Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is an awesome band though. The bastard love child of Tom Waits, Meshuggah and Swans. :D

[REKLAS]

Felt like drawing something so I figured I'd go with the CHOW brief so I sketched this character based roughly on my brother.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7452/chow134wip01jz0.jpg

I decided to go with an abstract look and make it look as if the music is radiating out of him and/or like he's in his own world when playing his music and just had fun with it and this is the result of that. It's probably a bit too abstract and I plan on refining it and make it clearer and more 'normal' sorta the direction his face is headed. Hopefully I'll have more time to work on it this week.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/3627/chow134wip02ga4.jpg


EDIT: If abstract-esque stuff isn't allowed in the CHOW poll that's cool, I'm just having fun with this and trying something different.

[tomwaits4noman]

It sucks that i have no time for this one...grr :(

might throw in some sketches if i get the chance

[indus]

http://in2thepaper.cdn2.cafe24.com/chow/134wip.jpg
my first rough to catch the mood...but
I'm not sure about this pic fit with the subject or not.

[Tec]

very cool topic.......i am still half-deaf because of a concert yesterday.......time to feed winamp with some g.g.allin mp3s for inspiration and get strated http://www.designsketch.de/stuff/headbang.gif

[Edriss]

Cool idea. Been stalking CHOW for several weeks now and finally have some time to participate.

Here's an idea I'm currently running with, not sure how much it fits the topic exactly (after looking at the ref pics posted). But from reading the brief images of old Western drifters and disillusioned holy men kept on coming to mind.

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Edit:

After Oregano's tip I exchanged his robes for a trenchcoat, scarf and gloves. I've also tweaked his boots.

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[UCT]

UCT: Well, Steven Tyler is pretty much a worn out guy so it fits the brief partially. ;) Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is an awesome band though. The bastard love child of Tom Waits, Meshuggah and Swans. :D

I thought tyler had a comercial look that didnt really roll with the eclectic theme of the brief, but your guy looks rougher anyhows.

HLOYSHIT! this opens up for a Dekal MC! :D

[dawnusllaw]

This looks like an interesting topic, I'll have to put in my 2 cents, now that i have some time this week

[Sforza]

A Tom Waits-inspired topic. How much better can it get? :heart:

[Shirro]

My first post. Couldn't resist this week.

[Artofinca]

Tom Waits is jenius :)

[madhatter106]

Constructive note I'd recommend for us all to ponder - a CHOW who "has been around for a long time, their age disguised by wrinkles and scars that the times have written on their face."

I'm trying my damnedest in WIPs not to skew this guy too young - I think the faces Aeronik did come the closest to that description so far...those pics that UCT posted might have the same "sound" or "soul" or "feeling" as Waits (though I have no idea, I listen to music ranging from opera to the 1930's), I think we have to keep the character description in mind...

Interesting, from what I'm interping from the piece Edriss posted - do we necessarily have to set this "present day" or even 20th/21st century? Can we go the whole "wandering Renaissance minstrel" route?

[S.C. Watson]

Interesting, from what I'm interping from the piece Edriss posted - do we necessarily have to set this "present day" or even 20th/21st century? Can we go the whole "wandering Renaissance minstrel" route?

I noted that piece while I was at work today.

It needs to be contemporary. As is, Edriss, your piece is a bit off topic. Bring him forward and it will work, even with the cool ride.

All the best,
~Oreg.

[Max Martelli]

Rough sketch so far. Hope I can finish this one.

Aeronik: I like the banana hammock. Nice.

Let me know what you think.

[Rarebit]

I feel like alot of you are missing the point here, just drawing what you would normally without taking the stylistic theme into proper consideration. This prompt made me think of the movie Gummo...
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/anewDawn/gummo-01v.jpg
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/images/ae/reviews/gummo2.jpg
(Not the best examples, but i hope im conveying the message, compliments google image search)
at least concerning tone.

[YIIT]

YIIT - nice dude, loving the violin! Very ace.



Thank you for the opinion I was going to go with the 1 st skecth but because of your post I choose the Violin... :)

[YIIT]

------ 21st Century Siren -----

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/3007720320_28e96c82e8_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/3007720316_225ed1b100_o.jpg

[daestwen]

YIIT - this is going to seem like an odd crit, but her head is tilted the wrong way. She isn't using a shoulder rest, so she'd probably tilt her shoulder up, and her chin further into the chin rest, tilting her head away from the viewer...

I'm probably just being picky but she looks uncomfortable and I love my violin. :)

[YIIT]

YIIT - this is going to seem like an odd crit, but her head is tilted the wrong way. She isn't using a shoulder rest, so she'd probably tilt her shoulder up, and her chin further into the chin rest, tilting her head away from the viewer...

I'm probably just being picky but she looks uncomfortable and I love my violin. :)

Do you mean like this ?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/3007009973_bff8d60747_o.jpg

I love the violin,love the sound and the distortion it creates on the player however I have never even touched a real violin in my life.Although I have seen people who play I realy dont know the right position it should be held.

On top of it all I have this personal policy of not using any references (dont ask its just plain inlogical and snob)... so your crit is not odd but greatly appriciated ( even more if youre a violin player :) )

But I wanted to create this feeling that after a long solo "the siren" pulls the bow away from the violin and with the sam movement her head releases it tight lock on the violin (in order to create drama) and we see the violin players face... also in the right position the head blocks th violin so I thought it was more practical too.

So please do crit it , tell me your opinion. Thanks.

[TheRealRonn]

http://www.ronnstern.com/images/RS-Eclectic-Singer.jpg

[daestwen]

On top of it all I have this personal policy of not using any references (dont ask its just plain inlogical and snob)... so your crit is not odd but greatly appriciated ( even more if youre a violin player :) )

Well, in this case I would recommend reference, even if you don't use it, persay, and just glance at it. We're taught a very specific way to hold the violin, and though most people wouldn't notice that it looks strange, I always will. :P It looks better now, but it still looks a little weird/awkward...

Though looking at it, I think I know why.

When you use a violin, the left arm actually wraps around the other side of the violin. Right now you have the arm coming up and behind the neck of the violin, and the hand awkwardly perched over top from behind.

Instead, the arm goes under the the neck and the hand twists so the fingers can reach the strings.

I can't recommend reference strongly enough because I don't think I can describe it. :/

edit: here: http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/849/25054651.JPG Look at it if you want. :P It'll show you what I mean.

[Sorknes]

Nuttin' But Stringz might be an idea to look at even if they're male and probably have another music style than what you had in mind... heh. Appearantly they got known through America Got Talent.

They play while jumping, walking, laying backwards, leaning and even without connecting the violin to their chin. Still they use the traditional pose a lot, at least as a base. Maybe this can help you?

Just skip the talk and the show stuff, look at them playing :)

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[Sorknes]

Here's some more inspiration for you, all grabbed from google images earlier... Trying to find an idea myself :P

Sorry to spam your thread.. Hope it helps? Tell if they're way off what you were thinking of with the brief...

[Whyto]

Awesome stuff being shown already.

What has impressed me the most is Pixeltuner and Aeronik's posts

Aeronik - Love where your going with this and the colour tests look impressive, love the deep rich colours you've achieved. I can't wait to see one of these characters developed.

[TheRealRonn]

http://www.ronnstern.com/images/RS-Eclectic-Singer2.jpg

[Aly Fell]

Oooh! Nice work! Great characters Aeronik, and I'm enjoying the Joni Mitchell vibe in MJ_Alcazars.

First roughs. Don't think I'm getting it really... :( Probably won't have time to finish anyway...

[Artofinca]

few sketches

[Equality72521]

everyone is doing a great job so far, lots of really cool ideas.

Here are some of my sketches, trying to get that combo of vagabond and Waits, its actually a lot harder than i thought

[Sorknes]

Doodled a bit, this is the one so far that looks the most promising. I dunno though. I'll doodle a bit more I guess. :)

[DSAzeppelin]

Holy shit it's Ronn Stern....been a big fan of your PB works for a long time. Used to play back in the day when I was a kid and always loved to check out your stuff.


Oh and Sorknes, Nuttin But Stringz is awesome....a fun twist on music with the classical + hip hop....I dig them. Awesome performers to boot. And thanks for all the ref/inspiration!

[madhatter106]

I think Sorknes' research captured something in the brief - those pics posted have that "vagabond" feeling to them, which seems essential.

And maybe I haven't had enough coffee this morning, but I'm still trying to figure out how someone can correlate the film Gummo with all this... ;)

[MJ_Alcazar]

Posh - I'm liking that first guy with the guitar and the last woman on the piano.

TheRealRonn - really liking the sketches. Can't wait to see how they turn out.

Sorknes - thanks for the references!

Equality - the first one in the second row really speaks to me. Looking good. I know what you mean about it being harder than it looks!

Just a thought for everyone, probably unneeded. I was in band for nine years and something I noticed was that each instrument carried it's own personality and attracted those with the same type of personality. Just a thought on choosing an instrument.

[amaliax]

hi again. ^^ I only just got to start tonight, and I don't know if I'll have time to finish, but it's been fun so far.

[Adele]

i like your chicks posh...they are awesome!

here is mine...not sure if ill do it...but i wanted to have a go at the sketch as I dont like street music much and REALLY dont like Tom...but I cant let that stop me :D

[Nibras]

Thank you for the amazing ref guys
That video of the two brothers playing was AMAZING! their supereb
Thanks again for all the ref

[YIIT]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/3009725227_0f7466d700.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/3009725231_0f2e4d6a61.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/3009725235_22646ca5c4.jpg

[c4l3b]

that's funny, I'll bet there are a lot of people who have done tom waits inspired art in the past few months. I did this vagabond when I was excited to go see tom waits live.

[Equality72521]

Poshspice i like your sketches, i really wanted the chance to go up against ya, but there will always be other CHOWS

everyone is doing soooo awesome, here are my finished pencils, it will be a black and white piece, gouache on paper

im having trouble thinking of a background, here are some of my ideas

1: adding an old pair of eyes for a god-like figure watching over him
2: Add some birds, like they are coming our of his mouth
3: Blackout background, then have some fun in photoshop

any suggestions?

Sorry for bad quality pics

Update: some Black and White WIP

[invinciblewombat]

a little more work on this, wip

[JessiBean]

YIIT - I know this is kinda late to bring up as you are pretty far into this piece, but remember this is a CHARACTER competition, and extablishing character is REALLY difficult without seeing your subject from the front. At the moment I gather this is a female violin player with interesting clothes, but not much here is speaking to the vagabond with a world of experience written on her (or his) face.

You've put in some good work, it'd be nice to see you save this piece.

Remember the brief, and remember what you are trying to get across.

[Aeronik]

Been working at the composition and colours and I think I'm set on what you see below; the old muso pausing mid set to tell his audience how it is.

http://www.users.on.net/~aeronik/chow/chow134_colruffs01.jpg

I like the first and fourth colour scheme - really not sure what direction to go. Still to finalise all the details too, clothes/props etc.

[YIIT]

YIIT - I know this is kinda late to bring up as you are pretty far into this piece, but remember this is a CHARACTER competition, and extablishing character is REALLY difficult without seeing your subject from the front. At the moment I gather this is a female violin player with interesting clothes, but not much here is speaking to the vagabond with a world of experience written on her (or his) face.

You've put in some good work, it'd be nice to see you save this piece.

Remember the brief, and remember what you are trying to get across.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3011731763_ebb26800c4_b.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/3012717660_b105bbd46e_b.jpg
Hope this new composition fixed the problem...

[RayTwicket]

I really like Aeronik's stuff, it's really fun, awesome colors
and equality72521 is great too can't wait to see it finished
.....
anyway, here's what i got so far any comments would be great :)

[rodriguez]

Hey great work everybody

Heres what i've got going so far hopefully have time to finish

[MJ_Alcazar]

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0014-2.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Seloh_Eft/scan0015-3.jpg
Don't know if I'll have time to finish. Really busy weekend.
EDIT: This is probably the finished version.


And, thank you Daray. That means a lot to me.

YIIT - I like your front facing view one. Cool idea with the violin.

[Daray]

MJ: You wouldn't believe how far this piece has come on compared to your others. Every week you -still- improve and give me a good kick up the arse to do more work :)

I've come up with something, although upon looking back, she isn't really a singer... so I may go back to the drawing bored on this tomorrow if I have some time. Nearly over this stupid chest infection!

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[Aeronik]

More progress. Made the final drawing and opted for colours somewhere between the two I liked. All that's left is polishing it up!

http://www.users.on.net/~aeronik/chow/chow134_colruffs02.jpg

[Adele]

cool Aeronik! The guitar is awesome.

[Chate Noire]

YIIT, I think your new piece is significantly better than the first one. Well done.

[YIIT]

YIIT, I think your new piece is significantly better than the first one. Well done.

Thanks.I think so too. :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/3015787640_fe93a10256_b.jpg

[Jacob Kobryn]

How about some of my favorite Eclectic bands for some inspiration?

Diablo Swing Orchestra. Pretty much a mix of every music style out there (well I guess there's no Hip Hop or country, folk, but not country)

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King Crimson Damn, I love them! To appreciate the full eclectic-ness of them you have to listen to a full album, not only a song.

[Pixeltuner]

I'm pretty much done. Maybe a few touch-ups here n there.

[hungryan]

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My net at home wasn't working, so I could only upload this quite late at the workplace today, and didn't see other entries much. I really like Aeronik's picture, I will post some critiques about others soon. If anyone could creatively criticize my picture I'd be happy (I know it's a bit late). I will detail the stuff more today.

[Mutley]

Uh, Uh....hope it's not too late. :oneye:

[MJ_Alcazar]

Hungryan - I was having computer trouble this week too, don't you hate that? I like your piece, the only thing I can see is that on the last piece, his right knee blends into the background a little bit too much which makes it look a little flat. Hope the computer stays up enough for you to make it to finals!

[hungryan]

Some late, but hopefully useful notes on the pictures:
Mutley: in the brief it says the character has to be old, or something like that, and yours doesn't look like that
Pixeltuner: He is also not too oldish, his belly and arms look a bit too smooth in my opinion, almost like a tube or something, there's no definition of any anatomy on it. Also his back is arched in a very strange way, is it possible for a human to be such a back curve? All the stylistic little pieces are nice.
Yiit: Good use of perspective, but she looks also very young, and is she a singer? Nice anatomic (and other) details, you really got that part very well!
Aeronik: The best piece so far in my opinion, the theme looks a bit like mine, but I swear I didn't see yours before I made mine! And you topped me in evey aspect, I'm ashamed :)
Daray: She is not old, and not singer, but I like it! This is the best picture I've seen so far from you (I think I only saw 3)
MJ Alcazar: If you use pen for shading (is it a pen?), it's better, if you try to follow the surfaces with your lines. Check how Duerer and Rembrandt used a pen to shade stuff. I mean this for example for the counter in the background, where you used lines with all kinds of angles, and because of that the surface starts to 'wave' around. There also some perspective problems with the top and the bottom of the counter. The figure itself has some nice detalils, and I especially like her hand. The face has some problems probably too, her cheeks look a bit like she got punched in the face, like it's swollen.
Rodriguez: The pose is a bit stiff, but it's a funny character
RayTwicket: She is scary. I see that you wanted it to be deformed, but still her hands are NOT deformed in a nice way. Her microphone hand for example looks like some rope knotted around the microphone.
Invinciblewombat: Maybe his furthest hand/arm is a bit too big? Or just coming from someplace weird? The pencil sketch had big head, but somehow that character looked more fun to me. A nice drawing although.
Equality: The arm going down looks a bit small probably, but the picture has a nice feeling, and kudos for making it in china ink!
C4L3b: nice Waits sketch, he looks a bit younger on the picture isnt it? The hand going forward looks small
Adele: will you finish this? She also looks a bit young.
Amaliax: You've cut the picture in a strange way, but it looks much better than your dragondentist one!
Sorknes: I don't it see enough to criticise it effectively, will you finish this?
Artofinca: He looks like a voodoodrummer guy, strange interpretation.
Poshspice: That piano girl has very nice mood, I like it.
Realronn: it seems your were thinking a lot about references, will you finish the picture?
Edriss: did you make this digitally? It has very nice crayony feeling. I like this ideas, it's just strange how you've cut the picture at the legs of the pure donkey :)
Cognition.sb: Nice, funny ideas. I understand that you like painterly feel, but her left hand which holds the cigarette has some problems, the 'topology' of it is a bit messed up (I don't know how to explain it better)

I know my stuff is very far from perfect also, so feel free to criticise it.

[YIIT]

Thank you for the kind words about perspective and anatomy.But to be honest theres is a lot mistakes. Yes shes rather young and about her being a singer or not... hehe its up to your imagination I suppose.Thanks again.

[Mutley]

@hungryan ... Yeah, you're right, now I read the brief. Next time I'll be more careful. Good luck to all! :)

[MJ_Alcazar]

Thanks Hungryan for the pointers! I'll definitely be applying those in the future. I looked up those artists and I see what you're talking about. Again, thank you!

[Flipnastywebby]

about an hour and a half into this
maybe i might make the deadline

CCs are welcomed

[Daray]

Daray: She is not old, and not singer, but I like it! This is the best picture I've seen so far from you (I think I only saw 3)

there are some old ones about, but not in this style at all. This style is defiantely a maturing phase in my art. But yep, shes not old, nor a singer, so thats why I pulled out. Ran out of time too ;) Thanks though Hungran!

[RayTwicket]

i'm not going to finish mine...too much homework.

hungryan: thanks for the comments, i agree the hands need work, they're pretty much always a challenge for me.

[Daray]

i'm not going to finish mine...too much homework.

hungryan: thanks for the comments, i agree the hands need work, they're pretty much always a challenge for me.


this can help you, it did for me (some kind soul passed it on) feet aswell as hands, oh and the odd torso :)

http://www.posemaniacs.com/tools/handviewer/

[pepps]

Argh!! i should stop starting the deadline day! again i left the head for last and now i´m crying =) Probably went a bit out of topic, but it was fun =)

there are lots of nice entries, many managed to capture the flavour and the mood very well, really inspiring...!

cheers!

[Larriva Art]

I'm not nearly finished, obviously. Indecision, beat me this week.

I'm trying to inflict more style on this, a la James Jean, Glenn Barr, and Ashley Wood.
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Muppet arms go well with a banjo; thanks, Kermit.

[Simon Boxer]

Hungryan: Thanks for the crit! I'll fix that when I get home if I can beat the polling.

Pepps: Hacked up your pic really quick to repose him. Hope it helps because he looks off-balance, and his right foot should be more aligned with the knee direction. The fix I've posted is a pretty boring pose though, unfortunately. I locked his left leg so it supports most the weight and reigned in his right leg and foot.

[pepps]

thanks for the paint over! yeah i tried to hack the pose a bit myself, but it also felt a bit boring, so i went for the other one trying to get it right, but with not much luck =)

[Zaxser]

So, I take it I'm the only one who thought of Thoth? (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGVGwpxg7yA)