A cheater on conceptart.org

[Mister_Justice]

Hi all!

I just wanna tell you that there a cheater on conceptart.org.
I don't think is fair and legal to re-use stuff from a CG artist and take it for yourself. The guy is Steve Yi http://steveyi.net/ he copied images from the famous mattepainter Yanick Dusso http://www.dusso.com witch is a artist that I respect a lot. See by yourself.

http://cafe.rapidus.net/pipratte/justice01.jpg http://cafe.rapidus.net/pipratte/justice02.jpg http://cafe.rapidus.net/pipratte/justice03.jpg

Mister Justice

[Carnifex]

oy boy!another fraud!:eek:

[darkcult]

Not nice Steve Yi! :nono:

Thanks Mister_Justice !!!

[OLSEN]

The only one that is totally obvious is the first one, the other two could be considered "inspired by". But that doesnt matter, the first one is bad enough.

Sooo Steve Yi, shame on you.

Edit: Btw, thanks for the link to Dusso, i had forgotten about that guy completely. :)

[I.was.ink]

Yeah, thats just not right. I also found similarities here:

feng's original (http://69.44.60.9/artbyfeng.com/sets/set_22.jpg)

steveyi's version (http://steveyi.net/images/SYIenv_f1.jpg)

Now, I know its not exactly the same, but he pretty much stole the idea and didnt give credit. Not to mention all the other ones that Mister-Justice posted.

Good job Mister!:thumbsup:

[fungi]

man, he even ripped the background of massive black for his site!

[OLSEN]

and he ripped Jason Manley aswell.

ripped:
http://www.steveyi.net/images/SYIchar_1.jpg

original:
http://www.conceptart.org/artist/jason-manley/images/jason-manley-7b.jpg


Hey, Steve Yi, now you really suck.

[Red_Rook]

my god. dissapointing. =(
I cant stand people like that, whats the point for gods sake.

[Wetterschneider]

Holy cow, there are still noticable scraps of the owl showing under the overpaint - what a knob!

Olsen, you should host that "original" image yourself, since this Steve character may pull it as soon as he catches wind of this thread, and then you post won't make any sense.

[Phuzion]

:rambo: :electric: :nopity:

[NOOSE]

Good lord!......:ranting:

[Kappei]

the same opinion like olsen... ok the first one is bad :)
.. but perhaps steve asked the guys first, to use the pictures? :)

hm

cya
kappei

[OLSEN]

Wettershneider,

i have saved Steve Yi´s paintover but im not going to host that kind of shit unless i have to. If he pulls the pic i´ll put it back up.

[cucaracha]

hehe -

as I saw this big sand-stone city I nearly posted sth like "wow - that really reminds me of Dinotopia or SW - nice pic anyways"

ooh and I want to add sth too :D
the background of his page looks traced from massiveblack.com
just kiddin :P

whew...

[NOOSE]

the backgrnd IS from massive black...I have it as my desk top because it looks so damn cool...all he did was smear some low opacity over it to hide the cool shapes!...you can see the edges of the main design coming through on the entertainment or illustration sections uper left....
.......is it wrong to hate someone this much?

[Mister_Justice]

I just wanna say that I sent an email to Yanick Dusso himself to inform him about this horrible cheater. He'll do what he wants with this now. I did'nt notice that Steve copied also other artists. That bad for him. Poor guy.

Mister Justice

[Joeslucher]

Good job guys. I'm glad more observant artists than me exist. I had looked at both these guys sites and didn't notice. It's annoying.

[Fozzybar]

I miss Bill Murray here...it's like Groundhog Day the last weeks on ca...

;)

[strych9ine]

This is getting ridiculous now...

[softdrawer]

the guy is cooked for ever now... that must hurt.

[helix7]

Originally posted by strych9ine
This is getting ridiculous now...

Seriously... I think it's been made pretty obvious in the various art forums that if you rip someone else's work and post it online, you will get caught. You've got to be dumb as a rock to think you'll get away with it.

[alkaline111]

wow i had no idea people did that kinda stuff.. i never would have thopught to look for it, i feel guilty sometimes even geting ideas from other artists, but that........i dont woudl consider that art, hes a coverband taking credit for the songs... " hi im my names ____ and this is a new song i just wrote called enter sandman, hope you all like it"...:bash:

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yeah I see similarities in all of them. Perhaps not directly cut and pasted--but too haveily influenced.

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by WildSpruceMoose
Yeah I see similarities in all of them. Perhaps not directly cut and pasted--but too haveily influenced.

Are you kidding? The first one is obviously copy-pasted directly. The rest are either crudely manually reproduced or lamely "touched up" to look more like he did it himself. (The Jason Manley one.)
Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if every other aspect of the background we see in those pictures is ALSO copied.


Fucking frauds and phonies. I knew someone who had his art ripped off by some swedish shithead who even went so far as to copy and paste all the english text from his website, only inserting his own name into the text instead of the guy he was ripping off. (Which meant that the text didn't make very much sense in the new context in which it was placed.)

Of course, in addition to ripping off my friend's art and website design, he also ripped off a few more people, and posted some of his own horrible artwork on the site. Also, apparently the guy was attempting to make a LIVING doing this, and even posted some of the jobs he'd had. (several of which were the jobs my friend had listed on his site, though.)

His site, however, was bombarded with DOS attacks from people who were justifiably pissed off at this phony for stealing my friend's work as well as taking credit for his jobs.

[Miau]

shame on him! its totally ok to give credits of your inspirations !! I wanna say you have to and it doesnt hurt!! :mad:
Thats going too far !!

[edit] unfortunately this is even no inspiration any more... just copies....

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Miau
shame on him! its totally ok to give credits of your inspirations !! it doesnt hurt !! :mad:

This isn't a case of "inspiration" unfortunately. This is a case of "stealing or poorly copying artwork and passing it off as your own."

It's perfectly okay to take a tiny part of someone else's work and then redesign it yourself to suit your needs, but this guy is just blatantly ripping people off.

He can't even rip off stuff RIGHT, or with much skill or finesse either. The Jason Manley face was obviously "touched up" (very poorly, too) slightly in a paint program because you can still see Jason's underlying strokes. Meanwhile, he royally screws up the perspective on the other stuff he rips off. (Especially on the third one.)

Of course, I'd still be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he either credited his sources, or said "I'm using X artist's picture for a study" or something.

[Jason Manley]

dong studies is one thing...claming the work as your own is another....he probably learned a lot from doing that....but he should not post it on the web a s his...unless he calls it studies of professionals works and shows the originals.


he butchered all of them but fengs....i like what he did with the color on that one...

coro showed m e this stuff a couple weeks ago....i had meant to ask him to take it down...just too busy...

i wonder what he thinks of this uproar.


j

[tarwater]

This one is a sketch over a horizontally reversed Feng drawing. I have the Feng version on my hard drive but I don't have space to upload it. But here is the stolen version from the other guy's site.

http://steveyi.net/images/sketches/wland4.jpg

[DanSTC]

I like how a couple of you guys are leeching from his site. http://home.san.rr.com/saintweb/danstc/Anti-troll%20images/lol.gif

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Jason Manley
dong studies is one thing...claming the work as your own is another....he probably learned a lot from doing that....but he should not post it on the web a s his...unless he calls it studies of professionals works and shows the originals.

he butchered all of them but fengs....i like what he did with the color on that one...

coro showed m e this stuff a couple weeks ago....i had meant to ask him to take it down...just too busy...

i wonder what he thinks of this uproar.
j

Jason, if you look closely at the one he rips off from you, it becomes more obvious that he apparently took your piece, put it in a paint program, and then retouched it. You can even see the headpiece the figure was wearing. Edit: And look under the "swirls" to the lower-left...you can see the autumn-leaf-like embroidery on her robes. Hell, you can even make out where he blotted out the owl...poorly...because he left a mysterious long white blotch.

However, I totally agree with you on people using other people's work for studies...that's how people get good; copying from other people who are good.
If he'd credited you or the other people he'd ripped off, it would've been fine. But he's got these up on his site without giving anyone credit...that's just wrong.

P.S. I've always enjoyed that particular piece by you, and liked to use it for the female wizard in my party in Icewind Dale 2. :) (Even though it's a little bit of a druid. She could really pass as a druid, wizard, or sorcerer though.)

[LeeSmith]

I'm not even sure if there is an original piece on his site at all is there?

Steve Yi's sketch
http://steveyi.net/images/sketches/head.jpg

Vance Kovacs original
http://www.vancekovacs.com/jpgs_big/I_10.jpg

[Halis_Aetrous]

Wow... it makes me sick seeing what this guy does. It's just wrong.

[-W.-]

Oh how sad caught befor he got his big Hollywood deal , the money and all the girls .So sad it almost made me cry . ^____^

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by LeeSmith
I'm not even sure if there is an original piece on his site at all is there?

(snipped to save space in thread)

Now THIS one is actually a good study.

Problem is, once again, he doesn't credit his source.

[Jason Manley]

omg...i didnt see the massive black rip....ok..its gone too far...i had seen his site a couple weeks ago and thought that perhaps he just was diong studies...but this is reeeediculous.

lol

where is banmaster D when ya need him?


j

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Jesus fucking christ.

He even stole the background image for his website.

If you turn up the contrast you can see where hes smeared a brush over the top of an exisiting image.

http://uploader.stonedonkey.com/uploads/cheater.jpg

[Jason Manley]

i left him a nice to the point message on his answering machine about the legal matters he will face if he does not remove these works from his site immediately. those works are copyrighted works owned by multiple companies. he will get sued if he persists.


he should know better...all the copycat thieves nowadays....it butchers their name and they always get caught.

we need to start a clean and precise discussion in a sticky on the topic of plagiarism and when using reference or others art in ones own goes too far. being derivitive is one thing...painting over others images is another.


j

[cycrincy]

ok taking ideas of other stuff is ok but this kid is rediculouse!:bash: :rambo: :dead:

[Jason Manley]

here is steves reply to my email and phone call.

> the splash wasn't taken or stolen from your site. i've made the texture and colors from photoshop. ~ but people think that i stole it just because i took image off from yanick(teacher) highley influenced. i will take my splash down n others because of the confusion. thx for letting me know by the way. their seems to be similarities but never stolen. dont get me wrong.theirs a lot of peoples art that looks very similar to other artist. n/e ways i'll take it down. -
> steve

[LeeSmith]

doesn't really explain every other image on his site either...

[jermainevl]

he says it's all a coincidence? :ahha: .. well, maybe he has some kinda telepathic link with the other artists.. yeah.. that'll explain it..:rolleyes: I've always wanted to use this 'smiley', this is THE oppurtunity: :bsflag:

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Jason Manley
rediculous.



j

I know you're a painter, not a writer...but..

http://home.san.rr.com/saintweb/danstc/ridi8ball.jpg

Just so you know. :D

[jermainevl]

unbiliefelaby rediculus!

[sparth]

the sad fact is that cheating this way prevents us from finding anything good on the site, even though the guy may have quite some talent. suddenly, you tend to find similarities everywhere, now convinced that everything has been borrowed or stolen. cheating that way is so dangerous for an artist, as it casts a huge shadow over all the artist's productions. too bad.

sparth

[Jason Manley]

REEEEDICULOUS

you see...in this case ridiculous is spelled with multiple eeee's

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by jermainevl
unbiliefelaby rediculus!

"She threw it all away just to make me look ridiculous! And a man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous!"

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Jason Manley
REEEEDICULOUS

you see...in this case ridiculous is spelled with multiple eeee's

Heh.

Yeah, it's just one of my pet-peeves. That and people who confuse "your" with "you're."

Although I should talk...up until a year ago, I'd been confusing "its" with "it's"

[sparth]

readyqueueloss?

[DanSTC]

Hey, wait a minute...Where'd the topic run off to?

ohshit threadhijacked

[strych9ine]

Oh wait, here it is... no need to worry, ladies and gentlemen. It seems that the discrepincies were all just coincidences. All 87 of them. Whew, for a minute there I thought you were ripping well-known artists off! Boy, would that be stupid...

[jermainevl]

strych9ine shame on you! you should really have more trust in your* fellow man!

*you see that danSTC? . It'S your and not you're.:D

[DanSTC]

^^^ Oh Em Gee!


Originally posted by Jason Manley
here is steves reply to my email and phone call.

> the splash wasn't taken or stolen from your site. i've made the texture and colors from photoshop. ~ but people think that i stole it just because i took image off from yanick(teacher) highley influenced. i will take my splash down n others because of the confusion. thx for letting me know by the way. their seems to be similarities but never stolen. dont get me wrong.theirs a lot of peoples art that looks very similar to other artist. n/e ways i'll take it down. -
> steve

"I didn't steal it, but I'll take it down anyway."

What a load of horse shit.

Now I want him to explain the countless other images on his site that he shamelessly ripped off from other artists.

PS. DRAMA!

[Dan.v.D.]

lol and i was just to think art is not the same like counterstrike.

****** ****ing *****er "§$ R§$²³"§%@@!!111

[Dan.v.D.]

(Player1) WAS KICKED BY CONSOLE

[Jason Manley]

his username was banned so he has resigned in as Vaporize and is claiming to be a blizzard employee....all of the posts cam after he was banned...the ip is the same....there was only one IP by stebie earlier now there are two profiles for that ip right after his banning. his ip will be banned for good.


j

[Wetterschneider]

At least he was enough of a nice guy to supply links to the artists he ripped in his links section.

Is anyone going to email his teacher at salvatidesign@earthlink.net and ask him to give his "student" a good talking to?

It's worth a giggle, imo :evilbat:

[Dan.v.D.]

rofl

[captnblack]

what a poor schmuck. too bad no one has ever seen fit to steal my art.

kinda funny how everything turns into such a witch hunt here.

[Jason Manley]

his IP is now banned.


j

[sic1]

I wish someone stole one of my current crappy pieces of art, just so I can point out how bad they are - err wait a minute.


Seriously, what in the hell do people expect to achieve from STEALING art?! There is no pride at ALL in doing so, and if they even get a job because of the stolen work, won't they be expected to produce at LEAST that caliber of art?

It's a shame, really. I can see if some ideas were remotely similar, because no one owns a copyright on a staircase... but a blatant rip of someone's hard work - arghhhhhhhhh!!!!!! /me stabs

[el coro]

wow! i found this a couple weeks ago. i like to peruse new members sites, and the kovacs study is what tipped me off initially. then the butchering of manley's owl girl...haha, hey jason, i took the two pieces and composited them together yesterday and found them to be exact in places. so you've been painted over...i cant believe someone would use other peoples work and think they won't hear about it. what a visionless idiot....-c36

[nikia]

You guys are so good at catching "artists" copying or downright stealing other peoples' work, I wonder if it might not be a good idea to have a thread listing the names of the people caught? It seems as all of these so called artists are trying to get into the gaming or film industry with stolen work, the industry would have a place to check and see if someone applying for a job at their company is legit or not. Of course there might be legal ramifications, such as being sued by the "artist", but I think that would depend on the laws in the U.S. or State this site originates from.

[ceenda]

Wow. I go out on the piss and suddenly this thread is 3 pages long.

To be honest, even if he gets a job somewhere on stolen Dusso art, 2 weeks into the job he'd crap his pants as the demands went over his head and employers fined him for lost earnings.

Blargh.

(but at the very least, this thread reminds me how much DUSSO F-ING ROCKS!!!1")

[NOOSE]

I figured he was toast when he messed with Jasons company...and his excuse is a bold faced lie...some of us out here in the snowy north have nothing better to do but to stare endless hours on end at great works of art.....you start to remember every detail...even random strokes at times..
:mad:

[mushuhaha]

haha, i love it. the more these bastards steal, the more it reminds me how awesome the original artists are.

steve yi, i saw ur stuff b4, and i thought u have a fair amount of potential.... haha, it turns out you really don't have any talent in creativity and vision, and you will never ever be a real artist. all those shameless lies in your replies to jason just make you a big scoundrel... i'm so disappointed and disgusted. whatever you do in the future, i hope you try not to sink lower than that.....

[Landmate]

pwn3d

[ChadTHX1138]

JASON'S Spelling was affected when he moved to my home town of Austin, The spelling of REEEEDICULOUS is correct there, I vouch fer thet feller!

nikia: I'm not sure You can go posting lists of people like that... is there an attorney in the house?:D

[Rantz]

Here's the absolute terrifying thing...

we almost hired this guy last month. No wonder he was so eager for an opp... trying to get in before we had a chance to cross-check. Dodged a bullet there.

This is just fucking pathetic that you've got to be so goddamn paprnoid in interviewing artists these days... damn.

[in4pain]

Looks Like he has taken his site down.:eek:

[endregan]

Wow if only people replied as much about artwork than cheaters we might get someplace ;)

it has to stop i agree, but it will always be around as long as man lives. lets not give this guy too much attention, he doesnt really deserve any of it.

[ChadTHX1138]

USE THESE LINKS TO HIS SITE INSTEAD :D

http://steveyi.net/entertainment1.htm
http://steveyi.net/illustration.htm
http://steveyi.net/sketches.htm
http://steveyi.net/aboutme.htm

[imajicastudio]

For his weapon of choice he should have put cut and paste or the clone button on Photoshop. I agree that a list of people that have been caught using other artist's work as their own should be posted. That way companies can check it before hiring someone. ALTHOUGH I would hope that only the admins would be able to post to it.

[bgermain]

Couldn't resist...

http://www.bgstudios.com/website/images/MonaLisa.jpg

[Lost Dragon]

Nice.. :D :ahha: :D :ahha: :D

There should be a "Hall of Shame" to "memorialize" these guys.

[NOOSE]

I vote for the hall of shame as well!!.....and a hall of most copied to tribute those most ripped off!...

[whoreable]

Im sure hes a ripper, but look at his life drawings, he understands art and can produce it well, but he likes to steal. If he were a complete noob, i would understand. Im still with you guys on this though, dont get me wrong.

[Foxglove]

:bash:
Two of these now? Cripes...
Looking through the comparisons, I don't see it as much in the tower he did and the one Feng did, but the matte paintings absolutely. The massiveblack image was pulled before I could see it though.
I was introduced to Dusso's work because of this thread though, which is just jaw-droppingly amazing. :D

[ghettomasterchen]

god dame it bgermain that shit is cold...but funny shit thou.

honestly...I think steve's got all the fundamentals to be a good artist, he can certainly mimic and intrepid what he sees. he just needs to develop his conceptual skills as a designer instead of straight copying others designs.

[Kappei]

hm... but he have talent.. some pics looks very nice to me :D!!!!!!

cya
kap

[Miau]

he has talent?? in stealing other peaoples work? come on :) im sure he did learn something with this but ..... i think we all know where the problem is :D

[Flint]

The plagarist cries for mercy as the artists corner him, pull out their pallette knives, and close in...


Mwuhahahahahahahahahaaaaa.

Less than 24 hours later... You boys work fast around here. I am just shaking my head.

Cool I am gonna go surf the websites of the plagarees :D Good shit. Thanks for the links !!


Jason,

when you lay out the copyright guidelines could you include information about using photo references from copyrighted materials like books and magazines? etc? Where is the line on that? When is credit and permission needed?

And where is the line on pictures of, say, celebrities? Because obviously they are gonna have to be drawn/painted off of someone else's copyrighted photography.

I know it may sound like a dumb question but I knew a perfeshunal horse photographer who said he nailed someone once for selling artwork that had obviously been painted from one of his published photographs.

Thanks!

[R_M]

I remeber him...
everyone was going apeshit about some images he posted a week ago. I really liked them too...

[NOOSE]

Just because the guy, has work in his portfolio that no one has found were it was ripped from doesnt mean it wasnt ripped!...life drawings or not, its not hard to trace anything...and talent isnt in the ability to copy someone using cut and past..because it were then every one would be a pro....any one that would rip one idea, let alone 8 or more cut and past or insulting to the origional artist, an "over paint" (smeared crud on a great work of art)..is not an artist..he`s a butcher!! and a fraud ..a fake ! and he is minipulating you by making you feel sorry for him..there isnt much for crime in the art world and so as such,.. this is at the top of the list.

Start defending a cheat like this and you give a open invitation to anyone to try this kind of behavior....and I, as Im sure many others feel suspisious of anyone who would feel obligeted to defend someone as fraudulent as this person..

infact saying this fellow has an ounce of talent CHEAPENS every other hard working origional artist out their who works their asses off to make something of their own work..and is a slap in the face of any true fans who rightfully give credit to their infuences and hero`s and to cap it off saying it takes talent to mimic another artist is like giving a nod to all the scanners and photocopyers out there....

Praise the pro`s..not the fakes

[psyop63B]

Mr. Zhu must be so disappointed in that guy :(

Has anyone compiled a list of known plagarists that have been discovered around the internet? If so I think we need to put up a sticky "$#!+" list thread so people can find out easily. Also this will serve as a warning to people who are thinking about ripping off someone else's art.

[Kappei]

he dont copy 100%..
look for example the first pic on ths thread :)
i luv the backround, looks cool....

but i dont like that 2, if someone get parts of other pics...

cya
kap

[alkaline111]

i have a feeling this thread will never end..... but its for a good cause. i wouldnt be able to sleep at night. and he shouldnt either. the mona lisa ones funny eh..... but you know if he would have done it ,he would have painted some poopy orignal marks then signed it...........

[Patch]

I agree there should be a hall of shame. I know that legalities was mentioned earlier, and while I am NO LAWYER (not by a long shot) - I would think some kind of 'disclaimer' should keep us from any kind of real troubles. ie:

DISCLAIMER: While we cannot be 100% certain as to the possibility that the following individuals actually copied the works of other artists, it is the concensus of the artists of this forum that they have used the intellectual property of others without those persons consent....

etc etc etc...

Most important aspect about this to me? The fact that companies would have someplace to go to double check when looking into a prospective employee.

*hops off soapbox*

:ak47:

[Franz Steiner]

cant believe that people are that stupid. Its so easy to
ruin your reputation wiht this sh...
Thanx you guys for keeping an eye on those cheaters.

[cycrincy]

this is halariouse not that he riped u guys but that ur runing at him like he just killed ur fammily lmao ur after him with a bunch a tommy guns lol:rambo: :electric: . wow im glade i never entered that black whole of no return steves in **sighing** but all in all he just another fraud and nothing can be done to stop him unless he is locked up in a hold cell with no pencils or paper**shutter** srry just the thought of that creeps me out ...:(
:ranting: if i was locked up i'd scream then id die of bordem!:drool:

[Flint]

Originally posted by cycrincy
and nothing can be done to stop him unless he is locked up in a hold cell with no pencils or paper

what does he need pencil and paper for? real punishment would begin with removing the copy and paste functions from all the software on his computer...

But hey, his career isn't totally over, he can always sell plagarized artwork at the local flea market for a buck or 2...

[hatee]

WOW. I had heard of it before......but never actually seen a case so .........I don't know (stunned).:eek:

Blatent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jason, you are taking it better than I would have.

[pstraub]

wow...I have an interesting take on this all! I saw his work on gfxartist and was pretty impressed...I responded to may of his images in praise! I can't believe I didn't catch the rip-offs...I like all the artists he copied from.
Anyways he e-mailed me looking for a job (I used to work for Vivendi Universal...starting at EA in a couple weeks). I told him I would help him out...I'm damn gald i came here and saw this post.

I am so tired of this SH_T...we all work to hard!

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Jason Manley
his username was banned so he has resigned in as Vaporize and is claiming to be a blizzard employee....all of the posts cam after he was banned...the ip is the same....there was only one IP by stebie earlier now there are two profiles for that ip right after his banning. his ip will be banned for good.
j

Wow, was he the "blizzard employee" who couldn't work image tags? Because I can't find the thread I chided him for it in.

Edit: Yeah, looks like it.

Here's the image I posted in his thread BTW:
http://home.san.rr.com/saintweb/danstc/Anti-troll%20images/cantseeshit.jpg

[Chewbacca]

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA god damn thats the funniest shit ive seen all day!!!

[defcombeta]

why god lord why, if your studing someones elses work fair enough, but this is out right rip offs, well wrong, christ its not hard to find real locations to draw inspiration from, hint go to any public library, look at the travel section or try history or my god there are hundreds of ideas just lying dormant in the mind. i feel sorry for him in a way, how old is he, is he starting out or like some of us in the mid twenties and moving around abit to find that perfect place that suits us like a glove.

john mac

[DanSTC]

Defcombeta, I think I can answer that a little:


There are countless artists out there who undergo the grueling process that it takes to become good enough to market your work every day. Some people realize that they're going to have to work, and work hard to get there. Some people get frustrated and quit.

Others, however, start looking for an "easy way out" or a convenient "shortcut"...some of these people simply become lazy (or bad) artists. Other less-than-honest types begin stealing other people's work and taking credit. Sometimes this even succeeds in landing them a few jobs, which usually don't last long when the client discovers where his quote/unqoute "inspiration" was lifted from.

There's also the fact that some people are just plain compulsive or pathological liars. Steve Yi seems to be one of these types, through his repeated denials and attempts at deception of other people...coming back on the boards as a "blizzard employee" was not a good move to this end.

Then there's other stuff, like attention-whoring...I believe that Mr. Yi was doing this as a means of getting some cheap attention. Unfortunately, he wasn't thinking beyond satisfying his own ego it seems, and has now ruined his reputation amoung at the very least this community of artists.

[defcombeta]

thanks DanSTC ,

for the life of me i dont understand the mind behind this kind of thing, i have a sense of pride in my work, it mine and comes from me, an extension as it were of my thoughts etc. on looking at the posts in the thread more closely i noticed the liar coming out, something that gives me a bad case of the chills, cant stand underhanded tactics. still i have to hope that he learns from this expereince and perhaps can turn it around and grow from this in some small way. in a way i think what he needs is strong guidance, he has a mentor , some strong words perhaps and instilling a bit of ethics would do wonders in this case.

john mac

[Flint]

Originally posted by DanSTC

http://home.san.rr.com/saintweb/danstc/Anti-troll%20images/cantseeshit.jpg

Looks like whoever designed Ray's jacket blatantly plagerized a pantone color pallette. I mean didn't even change the pattern. Some people I swear !!

Sorry.... that was terrible

[Firebird]

those kind of people should be sent to jails for few years..
man oh man.

[Flint]

Actually I like the concept of catching someone plagerizing my stuff, were it ever to happen.

As long as I have my stuff registered with the library of congress copyright division or whatever, then legal fees are picked up by the government while I take a plagerist to court, so I understand. Have the judge make the plagerist, in effect buy me a new surround sound sysrtem, tv, computer or something. "Judgement for the plaintiff for $X..."

I doubt it would be quite that simple, but I would be like HEY COOL!! I GET TO DRAG THIS IDIOT INTO COURT AND GET SOME FREE SHIT AT HIS EXPENSE WOOHOOOO !":D

[pvrhye]

If you make a hall of shame you should let people make legitimate concept art of what they imagine the thief to look like. I would love to make fake mugshots.

[bgermain]

Sounds like a topic for DSG.

[Darkness]

Jesus....Wow

[Forge]

urgh, secrets are always discovered... how can they think it will work.. if this guy works with Blizzard i'm the new artistic director of Pixar...:D

[Mister_Justice]

Wow!

I am the guy who posted this thread.

I did'nt think that this thread would go so far.
I feel a little bit guilty for Steve Yi to found that he copied http://www.dusso.com art. But what can I say.

I still think that it's not fair to steel drawing or art from other artists, even if it's a small piece of an image, like the first one that I sent.

Anyways, if you are curious to see the real face of "THE" famous STEVE YI, you can go here:
http://steveyi.net/index2.htm

Mister Justice

[insanelight]

Ehm... Why I can't find the images posted in this topic on his site? Where did you find that images Mister_Justice? :rolleyes:

[pogonip]

Yeah what the guy did was wrong but the lynch mob mentality of a supposed "ART" community makes me sick ..Some of you people should put all your HATE energy into keeping child molestors or murderers in prison it would be a lot safer place out there . :rolleyes:

[pvrhye]

Bah, we don'y particulaly hate him. But I don't feel sorry for picking on im a bit. I kinda feel sorry for ShawnYe though. The name is so darn close he might get a little grief.

[DragonGX]

Wow, looking over his site, I see a few images that we ripped on their entirity.. HE didn't even attempt a paint over on some of them..

Why do people haev to do this? :mad:

[Flint]

Gots hisself a BFA from Art Center in Pasadena eh? Wonder if that is true?

For someone to do this, in this age when you can go online and in short order find out if anyone knows about a certain so & so. Gotta be just mental to do something like this.


Mister_Justice, don't feel bad. You did a lot of people a favor. Exposing Yi saves grief for any art director that might hire this guy because of work he displays that is not his own. Crap like that makes it tougher on other artists trying to get a start because studios are more reluctant to risk getting hosed financially by a fraudulent new employee who can't do what he was hired to do.

This also sends a message to anyone who would misrepresent their work by stealing from better artists. Chances are very high that you will get found out, and once your name is known good luck getting work.

Do it on your own sweat, or dont do it at all.

[talmir]

Some of you people should put all your HATE energy into keeping child molestors or murderers in prison it would be a lot safer place out there

Why the hell is there always someone out there that says this stuff.. The truth is that the guy stole the work of other artists, he stole intelectual property. It´s not like we are in a full time job trying to hang this man, even tho hang he may. Why dont we just let people break into our homes, after all, shouldnt the cop be chasing terrorists instead of protecting what can be protected?

[madster]

Originally posted by pogonip
Yeah what the guy did was wrong but the lynch mob mentality of a supposed "ART" community makes me sick ..Some of you people should put all your HATE energy into keeping child molestors or murderers in prison it would be a lot safer place out there . :rolleyes:

You must be under the age of 25. It's not HATE energy, it's called a "heads up" within a professional community of artists on a website. People make their living from their art, and to that extent, this crap IS like child molestation, in that a "child" someone created and nurtured was stolen and abused without the knowledge or permission of its "parent."

A "lynch mob" would have spammed this guy's inbox, written his ISP, hacked his site, or other truly hateful things. Here, his indiscretions have been duly brought to light, along with the expression of well-justified disgust at the larcenous and deceptive behaviour of such a low-life.

Don't defend him to us, and please don't bother trying to redirect our energies. Speaking at least for me, I put my engergies where I best want them, thank you.

[Flint]

Originally posted by pogonip
Yeah what the guy did was wrong but the lynch mob mentality of a supposed "ART" community makes me sick ..Some of you people should put all your HATE energy into keeping child molestors or murderers in prison it would be a lot safer place out there . :rolleyes:

Omigod you are right, I am so horribly ashamed... Being touchy feely artist types we should have all wept and sent him fluffy bunny greeting cards!

[captnblack]

i am amused by people that should spend more time drawing spend so much time and energy to kill a dead dog. it's as if you think steve yi hasn't screwed himself enough. enough with it, its time to move on. these people do enough to hurt themselves already.

[OLSEN]

captnblack-> Writing a post here takes something like 30 seconds, thats not a lot of time if you ask me, since it is after all a topic that conserns most of us here. If people need to vent their anger over art theft, let them.

I say: keep the hate burrrrning!!

[bgermain]

I have to agree, this IS a forum for the world of art. While plagiarism and theft may not be at the top of the worldwide crime list, it's at the top of THIS forum's list. On this board, art IS the only world. That's why we come here.

Don't assume that people on here are unaware of the world outside the borders of their canvas. It's a bit arrogant to assume that the blasting you see here constitutes the entirety of everyone's sense of justice. Other topics have their forums, this one belongs to art.

[Miau]

phew... just looked up his site again :) its seems he somehow noticed whats going on :D.. new background, certain images are gone

off course Stevies behaviour is really :bash: :nono: .... but i think captianblack is kinda right - his reputation is destroyed, if he learned from this, he will maybe change his mind and take the longer road to become an artist, if not he will drown in his arrogance (hopefully)

[Mister_Justice]

Hi!

I went to Steve Yi's page web and he deleted all drawings that he copied from other artists even the background of is site has been remove. Which mean that all proof has been deleted. I think it's normal consequence for him to close the web site and get rid off all he did wrong.

This is the address of the site:
http://steveyi.net/index2.htm

You can access the gallery by clicking entertainment or Illustration on top of it.

Mister Justice

[softdrawer]

he took his picture off his website.... understandable...

( i still wish i could recognise the guy ) :rolleyes:

[garg]

hehe.. I'm sure this'll sound desperate and sad.. but I wish someone steals my artwork :D

[bgermain]

Hmmm... New rule: Before you can post on any cheater thread you have to post on someone's actual work thread; at least a one-to-one ratio.

[Bammer]

That's a weird rule.
Is there any reasoning behind it?

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by bgermain
I have to agree, this IS a forum for the world of art. While plagiarism and theft may not be at the top of the worldwide crime list, it's at the top of THIS forum's list. On this board, art IS the only world. That's why we come here.

Don't assume that people on here are unaware of the world outside the borders of their canvas. It's a bit arrogant to assume that the blasting you see here constitutes the entirety of everyone's sense of justice. Other topics have their forums, this one belongs to art.

Quoted for truth.

[bgermain]

Bammer: I was just noticing that these "art thief" threads get a TON of responses while new posts from artists are up for a week with one or two comments. I figured people should give as much attention to the art posted as the commentary on crooks. I'm not trying to bash anyone, just trying to encourage the feedback we all crave. Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that I recently posted stuff of my own :D .

DanSTC: Wow, thanks!

[Flint]

Constructive crit takes a tad more energy than playing buzzard at the carcass. :D

[DanSTC]

Originally posted by Flint
Constructive crit takes a tad more energy than playing buzzard at the carcass. :D

But we pick that carcass WITH PRIDE.

[otis]

Dam, after this I don't think the guy will ever draw again.:dead:

[NOOSE]

well if he does draw again....it will hopefully be of his own work..and possibly he will have come away from all this with the understanding that if it were his origional art being ripped or altered that he would have the support of fellow artists to see that credit gets put back were it belongs and that there is a HUGE level of respect for those that are legit that is well worth every artist out there striveing for.....





cue the bagpipes..

[hyphen]

not to beat up an old thread, but i just wanted to add that his life drawings look a lot like kchen's. could be stolen, might not be, too lazy to check :)

[Amish Rake Fight Man]

Maybe he was trying to take after Marcel Duchamp? I seem to remember a story about him being in a resaurant with some friends and he saw this painting hanging on the wall. He got up and signed the painting. Of course Duchamp was trying to make a statement but...

IMLAO using other artists works to learn how to do certain techniques, subject is fine. But those 'works' should never be protrayed as your own. I grew up trying to emulate many comic book pencilers and mimiced many of the images. But i was only trying to learn how to draw on my own. Those drawings are in my sketch book but they'll never be in my portfolio.

Arfm

[talmir]

Hmmm... New rule: Before you can post on any cheater thread you have to post on someone's actual work thread; at least a one-to-one ratio.

I totally agree.. Users that sign on only to badmouth others (cheaters or not) should really not be on the board at all.