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Duztyn(db)Brown
October 8th, 2008, 11:21 AM
okay when i graduate im getting wat ever i need to do conceptart... SO I need some opinions? What is the best computer to get... Best Programs and everything electirc drawing pads.. I HAVE NONE OF THAT NOW SO ANYINFO ON ANYTHING WILL BE GREATLY APPRECHIATED... HOOK ME UP WIT SUM INFO LOL :yayca:

Nibras
October 8th, 2008, 12:00 PM
First thing please stop talking like that :D
lol
Second forget all teh digital stuff for now
1 Get a pencil
2 Get a piece of paper
3 pick an object from life
4 put pencil to paper and draw that object
5 repeat over 1,0000000000000000000000000000000000000..... times
DRAW FROM LIFE! this is the best way to improve your drawing skills
Go study anatomy and learn about art
Improve your traditional art skills, concept art needs strong foundations and people who can first do traditional work then digital will come very easy.

Serpian
October 8th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Do you have pictures of your art? Maybe you should post some in the Critique Center area here, so we can give you some more specific tips?

Grief
October 8th, 2008, 12:44 PM
i Am way past that lol...

no. whatever arrogance you have about your art, lose it. you should be very fortunate for any feedback you recieve, chances are if someone takes the time to set you aside and give you a word or two, there is probably good reason and sound advice in what they are saying.

you are not beyond the need to draw from life. you never will be. the pencil is not some tool you master in a weekend then discard it for something better.

im ready to get my stuff looking like accual conceptart..

it's good that you desire to have a level of professionalism in your work (although "accual conceptart" is a loose term, but i get what you're stabbing at). having a brand new computer and all the digital goodies can be a lot of fun and allow you to better express your imagination, but it is by no means something that will make you a better artist. fancy equipment is merely a tool. owning the most expensive camera wont make you the best photographer, having the fastest car wont make you the best driver, and having the biggest dick wont make you the highest paid pornstar (sigh).

HEhe and i will def. stop talking that way =D the only problem i have is creat'n stuff but im movin past that

i be all tryin' 2 figur out how i cn draw n' shit. den i reelize "w8 homes meybe my Engriss r hard too read" dat is whack, wats a sucka 2 do?
pensils? lol, noob i is dun lernin' dat crap, i used my pizencil since i was in diaperz w/ my crib studio drawin' str8 up 4 lyfe.

Duztyn(db)Brown
October 8th, 2008, 12:55 PM
i didnt mean to come off as arrogant.. I meant that i know how to use a pencil and what not.. I still do and always will use a pencil. But I really want to get the realism that i see in art that is finished threw photoshop.. I am going to be headed to college soon and i was just curious on what type of digital material i might need... I am definitaly not the best artist and i really dont act that way my message just came across wrong.. i do appreachiate your reply Grief.. you put some things into prespective and i dont try to talk that way its faster but your def. better at it then me =) THANKZ

Duztyn(db)Brown
October 8th, 2008, 01:05 PM
oh and let me apologize to lilnebo because i didnt mean snappy and i am very aprechiative at the feedback i get because i dont get much. SO thanks and im sorry that my reply came across wrong but i def. see it from your prospective

Mirana
October 8th, 2008, 04:28 PM
I agree with the others, but I assume you're asking b/c your parents are going to be kind enough to buy you a machine. When I was around your age I just had a cheapo "package deal" computer that my father upgraded a little (graphics card and memory) and a CRT monitor. What really made the difference was getting photoshop and a 6x8 intous wacom (which I still use today).

I don't know how much your parents are going to go in for you, but start with the must haves and work outwards. Wacom is the brand of tablets we recommend (use the search function and you'll find many threads on the subject). Ideally you'll want at least a 6x8 in graphire or intous, however you can certainly do quite a bit with a 4x6 bamboo fun if need be. After that, Photoshop is a $600 program on it's own so it might be best to use a freeware program like gimp and then buy PS when you're in college as PS has great discounts for college kids.

Computer-wise, there's this thread (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135747) in the PS forum where one of the members outlines a few build-your-own PCs You can also use the search tool and find maaaany threads on the same subject. You very likely will not need a top of the line machine at this point in time, though. You'll be too busy with basics to ever push it as far as professionals do. By the time you need that it will be time to upgrade anyway, so keep an open mind about what you'd like and what you really need.

Hyver
October 8th, 2008, 06:22 PM
you'll never graduate if you keep spelling like that

kab
October 8th, 2008, 06:48 PM
You seem very interested, because you´re posting alot of threads, and don´t get me wrong, that is a good thing. Perhaps putting all you questions in one thread would be a better idea in the future though, makes it easier for the members here to see what you´re into and what you would LIKE to be into.

And spelling is essential, we don´t like having to decipher posts that look like they were copy-pasted from a youtube comment-field... :) Speed is not the essence, being understood is what matters.

First of, buy the pencils and a good sketchpad, start carrying it (this is a point I neglect myself :)). Next, don´t go overkill on the computer, any reasonable workstation should do, aslong as it has the memory and juice to run graphics apps, I believe someone gave you a link to a good thread with lots of advise. Perhaps spend what you save when not buying "über workstation overkillus - professional film-edit-edition" on a small, inexpensive laptop instead, so you can do digital sketching while not at home, you don´t necessarily need the ability to work super-large scale in PS on it, just enough to put your ideas down and do some digital studies. Third, buy a tablet, Wacom is your best bet, I recently got an Intous myself and the thing is addictive. My last tip is, buy acrylics or oils, painting digitally is fine, but real paint gives you alot of extra knowledge about colour interaction and how to achieve good values, this is hard, but fun and worth it when you notice your arts getting better each time you bring out the brushes. :)

Also, you´ve taken the right step by coming here instead of hanging around places like DeviantArt, this place is honest and knowledgable. Tough crits are your best friend. :)

Duztyn(db)Brown
October 9th, 2008, 10:13 AM
Okay thanks alot... and i just had a bunch of questions i was comming up with i i went... sorry about that.. and yeah im graduating i may and everyone knows that i cant spell =) i will chose smaller words from now on and i proof read... but seriously thankz i am NOw officialy done with my pestering