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Flea-Market
November 12th, 2003, 10:22 AM
He's a Captian going down with the Band:
http://angelfire.com/blog/bugfooder/CapBand.jpg
C&C's Welcome
and sorry about the lines....
I have a habit of drawing in note books
-Flea
Flea-Market
November 12th, 2003, 01:42 PM
no replies after 57 views
and only like 8 of them are mine
do you people hate me?
Michael_H
November 12th, 2003, 01:50 PM
It's really hard to get replies here unless you "dazzle" people. I don't usually get replies either.
You've got the shape down, as well as his expression, but you may want to take another look at facial and body structure.
Red_Rook
November 12th, 2003, 02:07 PM
57 views and no replies is nothing special. Plus your also suffering from complete n00b syndrome. By the way many of those people who view your stuff are lurkers who arent even registered as forum members but just look at the stuff. Just out of curiosity, if you dont mind me asking how old are you?
Any way on to crits. To be blunt, honest and to the point, looks like it took you about 30 seconds to do that. Your anatomy is WAY off in every way i can think of. Draw from life, get anatomy books and draw from them maybe even take an art class if you can.
You need to clean up your lines drasticly, i dont think there is a line you made on that page that is more then an inch long, it just makes it look rushed. His feet disapeare into the floor, plus the calfs on his lower legs are on the front instead of where there meant to be, on the back. The mast just disapears at one point, behind the guy. His hand is well... u sorta funky.
Seriously just look at other art (there are some brilliant people on this forum)and learn from that. Dont take this as me being rude but you ask for the crits, as far as im concerned its better then saying: "uhh.. thats nice"
cheers
-Rook
Marie
November 12th, 2003, 06:22 PM
I'll bite :)
If you are serious about improving your art and getting up to the quality of some of the artist here that when you look at make you drool... regardless of age you could be 4 or 90... do this:
As said before, draw from life. all the time, as much as you can, on notebook paper, sketch paper, napkins... Leaves if its all you have at the time (yes I've done that) Fall asleep with a sketchbook in your arms.
Second is this, look up some masters, find their drawings and copy them... I don't suggest tracing. I mean look at the drawing and draw it. This is for practice only. Use their line drawings, their roughs.. whatever. For me it helped a lot along with life drawing, it got my hand eye and mind to understand and grasp the linework, the reason behind it even some extent.
Don't have a model? no problem, draw your hands over and over and over, change the "pose" angle etc. Hands by many are considered difficult... so master it. What you learn from that will help you when you do move on to other things. Use pictures if you have to, though I find that often they just don't have the life that a real model does. Master quickly sketching strangers discreetly in public :) Whatever...
Thats my critique, yes yes I did not say much about the drawing itself, because from looking at it, you seem to be at a very beginning stage where the only critque I could give is what I said above...
how about this... I actually think you might have a grasp on proportion, its hard to tell, so I'd be intersted to see more. I'd like to see you use less solid outlines. When you draw the human face for instance... the eyes they have a lot more detailed shape and at some points the outline might break.. as with a lot of other parts..
Its hard to tell the ship is sinking by the illustration, I'd make that more obvious :)
I like the humor you added with the bermuda shorts!
You obviously have a lot of creativity packed in you, now just to work on your art skills :)
Don't give up!! Keep working on it.
(and remember this is my critique, which involves a lot of personal opinion... but I do think you should draw draw draw from life!!.. then draw some more, draw until your fingers fall off... then use ductape to put them back on...draw some more)
any more complaining will result in another long rambling post from me .. oh no... just teasing.
:p
Flea-Market
November 13th, 2003, 09:48 AM
to start I'm 14 almost 15.... I guess at this age that really matters
thanks for the advice, I would be doing that right now, but i'm also trying to master the guitar... yeah, I'm gonna be in a Band
But I'll try the stuff you said... and thanks for being so blunt.
-Flea
Flea-Market
November 13th, 2003, 09:59 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/blog/bugfooder/blaster.jpg
this is an older one but i like it.
and the captin had his hand in a pocket, his feet in water, and i just didnt want to draw all of the mast... i know how lazy
Red_Rook
November 13th, 2003, 11:19 AM
I like this one better then the first. But the anatomy thing again, its nice to see a more interesting perspective (i like the leaf or feather really close up on the right) even if i didnt quite work as well as it could. Try and force yourself to draw every day and i promise you, that you will improve greatly (im not exactly a master myself but i try). Try for instance to post another image here every day or even start a daily sketchbook in the sub forum. =)
cheers
-Rook
p.s you have too many lines on the fingers ;), 3 not 4.
Molly
November 13th, 2003, 11:28 AM
you have the ideas, just need to get you dem skills!
Lots of advice for you here luv!
Keep at up, don't give up!
Mollyx
Mr. Teatime
November 13th, 2003, 01:50 PM
hey flea-market you suck. Actually pretty good but on the skinny side:chug:
Pencil Soldier
November 13th, 2003, 04:23 PM
Hey im 15 too, so thats no excuse. :D
Red_Rook
November 14th, 2003, 09:33 AM
I never said it was an excuse (im 16). I just asked so i could make a picture of who im talking to no other reason. =)
shyst
November 14th, 2003, 09:47 AM
my 2 cents...some one mentioned if your serious- you'll scout out books tools ect...
also try to draw shapes every thing is broken down into shapes -boxes- cones -cylinders circles...
i love that guys shorts also-
-L :D
shyst
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Flea-Market
November 14th, 2003, 09:47 AM
yeah yeah, my scanner is messed up so, i dont have anything
and it was a cool pic too *sob*:cry:
die_with_honor
November 15th, 2003, 01:05 AM
you gots a bunch of comments i just thougt id ad one:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: see you later
Flea-Market
November 15th, 2003, 02:52 PM
yeah so would my friends mind using my screen name instead of my real name....
and 14's not that much
Mr. Teatime
November 15th, 2003, 04:05 PM
notice that i changed it to fleamarket:rock:
Flea-Market
November 20th, 2003, 09:57 AM
soooooooooo any more useful advice?
Lost Dragon
November 21st, 2003, 09:33 AM
Tips:
Go to an office supply place and buy a ream of unlined copy paper. It doesn't cost that much and it's great for sketching on. The notebook lines really detract from your work.
Draw BIG. Like BIG-BIG. Fill up the entire paper. You are going to make mistakes, so you might as well make them big enough for the world to see. You can never get any detail drawing small. If you really get into art, buy a big pad from an art store (eg: www.dickblick.com) and start going at it with some charcoal.
http://www.saveloomis.org/ has some books online that might help you out.
Set yourself up a little still life in a corner of a room somewhere and try to do draw that. You will get a lot better after a couple weeks of trying to get it down. Start with a contour line drawing if that helps you. Getting the basics of art down is mostly about practice. You can do it though. Keep going. Post your best stuff here always. You seem to have a good attitude with critique, so you're off on the right foot.
Cheers.
Flea-Market
November 25th, 2003, 01:42 PM
So um I'm back......
teh fonx
November 25th, 2003, 10:21 PM
i know somebody said something about drawing shapes, cones and other such litte nasties. Personally i dont agree with it, ive been trying to do that for a while and honestly it always ends up looking like crap, not to mention artifical. The appraoch i take is to use photo references, go to google, find a picture you like, a pose what ever it is that you are trying to draw at the moment and use it as a reference, or just straight out copy the damn thing. It really seems to be working for me. And the loomis books are great too, im just a bit to lazy to read all that writing. Well nyways good luck, if you have any questions feel free to pm me.
p,s i hope im not sounding like i think i know everything there is about art, im pretty bad actually, well in comparison, but nyways good luck :)
tikiman586
December 21st, 2003, 11:37 PM
Do you guys have anything better to do than comment on things? Hey Flea, you should add some of the other drawings in your notebook! Any way, catch ya later
Mr. Teatime
December 22nd, 2003, 12:06 PM
Bryce, its fun. And at least in my case i only do when i've got nothing better to do.
Wizard
December 23rd, 2003, 07:11 PM
Try copying pictures from comic books or internet (of course you don't get the credit) that way you will train. thats how i learned anyways:D
DO NOT TRACE
AmishCommy
December 24th, 2003, 05:32 PM
shout out for your avatar, hooray for communism
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