Sheridan Information Please!

[amarryth]

61 and up gets you a spot in the program. If you are slightly below that they place you on the waiting list. The waiting list has a cut off and after that you'd get an application transfer into animation fundies.

The cut off for Illustration this year is 52. I got a 54 last year. Funny stuff.

lol, yeah i think the cut off last year was 57, i had a 54 as well... so how did you find out it's 52 this year? they must not have gotten as many good applications as expected...

[amarryth]

5frames, there is a "no storyboards" note written near the bottom on the sheet.

dude, you've GOTTA appeal that... if they didn't see any storyboards then they weren't going to put you on waiting list or into the streamed program because it was, or they THOUGHT it was, an incomplete portfolio.. and it says right on the portfolio sheet that they will not accept incomplete portfolios. get your ass into sheridan and get an appeal on the go 'cause apparently it takes a long time to process... just like everything.... i'm still waiting to hear about something that was supposed to be figured out last week......

good luck, man

[5frames]

Ah sorry, didnt see all the details.

Its going to be difficult to prove that the storyboards were IN the portfolio bag though. G'luck.

[arghmisfit]

how do u get these score sheets back???

[Atazure]

No mail no news for me yet :/ Taj any status change for you?

[Taj]

Yeah, I got application Transfer to Animation-Art Fundamentals, but i havn't recieved any mail. Only mail i got was for art fundamentals and my score sheet.

[Atazure]

Yeah, I got application Transfer to Animation-Art Fundamentals, but i havn't recieved any mail. Only mail i got was for art fundamentals and my score sheet.
So it changed from "Application transfer" to "Apllication transer to animation-art fundamentals"?

[Taj]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/tajn/Picture1.jpg
I'm sure it's not changing again.

[arghmisfit]

nvm i just got it in the mail... 75 %

my lowest was the rendering and compostion of my drawing test

[Atazure]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/tajn/Picture1.jpg
I'm sure it's not changing again.

Hrrrmmm...so i guess i have to wiat for the mail to know what's actually going to happen to me? *pouts & waits* thx for the info Taj :)


Congrats argh :D

[amarryth]

got my score sheet in the mail, 53.5%, which is bullshit... i got 54 last year and put next to no work into it... hmm... oh well, i still made the cut which is nice to know in paper even though i was pretty sure of it from all of this admissions crap.. so yeah.. i really wish they didn't cover the comments, at least last year we got to see a few of them.. dang

did anyone else get their scores today?

[Taj]

Congrats Amarryth!

[Atazure]

Whoo! congratulations amarryth :D *dance of victory*

[Leeway]

You know what, I didn't get offered Art Fundies - Animation, even though I'm on the waiting list. The only reason I can think of is due to the fact that I'm currently in the program, so it's possible that they may not offer it to me again. I would surely take it again if the waiting list doesn't work out for me. =/

[Taj]

E-mail admissions leeway.

[thomasaurus]

You know what, I didn't get offered Art Fundies - Animation, even though I'm on the waiting list. The only reason I can think of is due to the fact that I'm currently in the program, so it's possible that they may not offer it to me again. I would surely take it again if the waiting list doesn't work out for me. =/

same situation dude.

[Leeway]

You are in the program now too? Or do you mean you just weren't offered it like me.

But yeah, I think I may swing by admissions before my next class.

[amarryth]

i think how it would work is if wait list doesn't pull through for you, then they'll offer you the fundies.. i don't see why you couldn't take it again, it's them getting another year's worth of money from you after all, lol... the way it's explained on the sheet included with the score sheet is that if you got above 36% i think for animation, then you are offered a place in the streamed fundies.. it must be irrelevant whether you're in the program or not... they probably don't give you the option yet because if you accept that then things get confusing if/when you're offered a spot in the ba program from the wait list.. ya know?

[darth massacre]

Geez, why are you guys so worked up over your portfolio scores? I swear I haven't found out what I scored on my submission since I got here because it doesn't matter when at all when I already got in.

If you got in despite shit scores...relax....you're in - that's all it matters. How you psyche yourself up for the new challenges ahead is more important.

[Leeway]

i think how it would work is if wait list doesn't pull through for you, then they'll offer you the fundies.. i don't see why you couldn't take it again, it's them getting another year's worth of money from you after all, lol... the way it's explained on the sheet included with the score sheet is that if you got above 36% i think for animation, then you are offered a place in the streamed fundies.. it must be irrelevant whether you're in the program or not... they probably don't give you the option yet because if you accept that then things get confusing if/when you're offered a spot in the ba program from the wait list.. ya know?
See that's the thought that I originally had. But there are people in my class who scored fairly high, just not enough for the waiting list but were flat out refused and weren't transferred to the fudies animation stream, so this is what is a bit disconcerting. Well, in any case, I'll check out what's what with admissions a.s.a.p.

[kennygeeze]

So, I'm confused... what was the cut off to recieve an offer for the illustration BAA?

[amarryth]

So, I'm confused... what was the cut off to recieve an offer for the illustration BAA?

cut off for a definite offer was 52%

[5frames]

I think its a little misleading to say the cut off is 53%.

Because this year they introduced a WOW factor. The portfolios are actually out of 90. The WOW factor is a 'bonus' 10 marks.

So because its really out of 90, 53% works out to 48marks which isnt realistic. I believe you need a score of 61 to get into illustration.

[Amazing Action Ape]

my dad recieved my portfolio score in ottawa, forgot to change my address (I recently moved into mississauga on my own.) He said hes sending it to me, but told me my score -- 68/100 -- which IMO rocks. Im guessing I lost the most points on creativity (considering I illustrated what was stated in the requirements 3/4 of the time! LOL) and presentation.

[amarryth]

I think its a little misleading to say the cut off is 53%.

Because this year they introduced a WOW factor. The portfolios are actually out of 90. The WOW factor is a 'bonus' 10 marks.

So because its really out of 90, 53% works out to 48marks which isnt realistic. I believe you need a score of 61 to get into illustration.

well, in the package that came with my score sheet there was a page that said what the cut off was, and it says 52% for illustration... unless what you're saying is that with this new 'wow factor' thing, the score is actually different.. i don't know.. that's just what it says on the sheet.. this wow thing must not be mentioned then....

[Atazure]

I don't get two things, first off why did we have to wait (and in some way,. some of us still do), for final results so long and second why is everything so confusing and unclear? They should have a meeting with everyone on the final deadline day or sth explaining the process of applying and all the mechanisms with "application transfer" waiting list, the scores and stuff. And i know that sometimes they don't know about the final cut off until the very end of the process but that's just their mistake. I've gone from anxious to irritated and to annoyed. Geh. I swear if i DO get in i'm gonna go and try helping with the admissions so that people won't have to go through so much chaos O: and with all this trouble i figure they'd use a helping hand :] Not in graidng the portfolio's ofcourse, maybe sending them out and sorting? imo.

[Atazure]

Alright! My sun java added anothe option and that is Art Fundamentals - Animation Conditional Offer , SO i believe this means i can officially stop worrying! Hurray! hurray! Now, what i need is that mail to arrive, for me to send them my TOEFL results and i shall dance the dance of happiness :D

[Diseased Fetus]

well, in the package that came with my score sheet there was a page that said what the cut off was, and it says 52% for illustration... unless what you're saying is that with this new 'wow factor' thing, the score is actually different.. i don't know.. that's just what it says on the sheet.. this wow thing must not be mentioned then....

The wow thing was just for animation, Illustration remained the same.

[amarryth]

yay atazure!!! very awesome! get ready to work your butt off... hehe...

i'm still waiting for them to let me know what i have to do.. i was supposed to get a call back last friday, then monday.. so i'm thinkng about driving out to oakville today and kicking some admissions ass... or just asking quite kindly why they're screwing around with me... :P

[kennygeeze]

I don't get two things, first off why did we have to wait (and in some way,. some of us still do), for final results so long and second why is everything so confusing and unclear? .

Because it's sheridan and their collective organization skills are lousy at best.
Someone in the chain of information that leads from the portfolio evaluation to the acceptance letters was lazy and didn't do their part as per usual.


Spend some time at the school and you'll see what I'm talking about. I don't think I've gone a semester without hearing about something immensely stupid the school did to someone or did to me directly (that's not including application time)

Don't get me wrong... teachers are great... but the communication skills of the rest of the place as far as informing the students and applicants of ANYTHING ssuuuuckkkkssss.
When it's time for me to leave this institution I wouldn't mind sending a care package of "FLAKEY" snack cakes straight to the admissions office.

[Artistic Suicide]

61 and up gets you a spot in the program. If you are slightly below that they place you on the waiting list. The waiting list has a cut off and after that you'd get an application transfer into animation fundies.

It must be a damn short waiting list. It looks like my weekend portfolio netted me a 55/100 in Animation(44/100 Illustration, which is ironic) and I was flat-out rejected.
I also got a letter from Sheridan today that's supposed to list/explain the reason(s) why I wasn't accepted...the paper is blank! What the hell?

Oh well, for just applying on a whim, it looks like I have some animation potential. Maybe i'll take a year in the fundies animation stream and see if I like it.

When it's time for me to leave this institution I wouldn't mind sending a care package of "FLAKEY" snack cakes straight to the admissions office.

I'm with you there. Maybe we should pool our resources and buy bulk. Never underestimate shock value...just ask Alice Cooper. ;)

Congrats to those who made it!

~Blaine

[Feyz]

How many people here are actually in the art fundamentals or going to take it in september? how you feel about it? Do you really think your portfolio was poor? I dunno... I hear they do it just get more money out of your pocket.


I'm currently in HS now... I know I'm gonna have to go through some this stuff next year.

I havnt really decided what I want to get into..

[Taj]

I plan on taking it in September. As much as I wanted to take animation straight out of high school (and i tried hard) I knew i wasn't ready so I'm excited almost giddy to be taking this next year. I plan on keeping journal(carnet du voyage style) so I can tell you more then.

[Feyz]

Is there like a required grade you must get? (Art fundamentals course) to get into animation/Illustration??

Or is it just based on portfolio again? What would you do if they deny you again?



The schools I lookin at are sheridan and george brown (graphic design)...

george brown also has a fundamentals course... Anybody got any experience at george brown?

[darth massacre]

My classmate and a couple of Illustration students in 2nd year went to George Brown for fundies too. I honestly think there's no advantage in going to Sheridan fundies over any other art fundamentals program because its all gonna be portfolio based.

I don't want to come across negatively, but instead of just waiting for them to inform you exactly why you didn't make the cut, maybe you guys should take a step back and look at your own work lined up against others. I'm pretty sure several of the successful applicants have their sketchbooks posted on CA. Take a look and see where their strengths are compared to your own...don't bother wasting time waiting for them to tell you why you didn't make the cut.

If I'm not mistaken, this year's entry standards may have risen.

[amarryth]

My classmate and a couple of Illustration students in 2nd year went to George Brown for fundies too. I honestly think there's no advantage in going to Sheridan fundies over any other art fundamentals program because its all gonna be portfolio based.

I don't want to come across negatively, but instead of just waiting for them to inform you exactly why you didn't make the cut, maybe you guys should take a step back and look at your own work lined up against others. I'm pretty sure several of the successful applicants have their sketchbooks posted on CA. Take a look and see where their strengths are compared to your own...don't bother wasting time waiting for them to tell you why you didn't make the cut.

If I'm not mistaken, this year's entry standards may have risen.

i'm pretty damn sure the standards rose this year, just in comparing the quality of my portfolio from last year to this year, and the fact that my score was lower this year, but i did get in.. the majority of my portfolio is posted in my döödles/sketchbook... i didn't get in by much.. BUT i did make it in...

Feyz: yes, there are academic requirements for the ba programs.. which is why i haven't been officially offered a place in the program; in taking fundies and PASSING all of the courses, achieving an average of at least 65%, they don't bother going back to look at your high school marks, unfortunately i was a stuck up idiot, as i was in high school, and was actually there to learn, if i didn't feel i would get much out of an assignment or i felt it was a waste of time, i just didn't flat out do it.. i still learned a ton in fundies, and probably wouldn't have been able to create a passing portfolio, but i didn't pass the course, so they went back to high school.. but when i was in high school, you were able to apply to the ba programs as a mature student so i thought i was safe there.. well, somewhere between then and now they changed the rules so i'm going to spend every free minute away from my 50 hour/week summer job making up either one or two high school credits through correspondence... one or two because it's taking them two weeks to decide whether they'll let me count one of my high marks from fundies towards my average... so if you don't have the academic requirements for the ba program, which is 12u or 12m english, senior level art credit, and four other electives at the 12u or 12m level, and either illustration or animation is where you want to end up, get your ass into fundies and do the work lol.... and about them doing it just for the money, true in a sense, which is why they let just about anyone into that course.. but if you're there because you really want to be there.. you will learn alot, ask just about anyone..

[amarryth]

wooo!!!! i've JUST received a conditional offer to illustration..

anyone else still waiting?

[Atazure]

yay atazure!!! very awesome! get ready to work your butt off... hehe...

Thanks! I do hope i will. I've never been to an art school or program so i'm really looking forward to all the hardwork :D Yay!

Aaaand! Congrats on your Conditional offer! Hurray to us both :D

When it's time for me to leave this institution I wouldn't mind sending a care package of "FLAKEY" snack cakes straight to the admissions office.

They should be paid based on the amount of people they inform and time they need to do that. More people + less time = more monneh O:
I bet that'd speed things up :B

Feyz I'm going to art fundamentals animation starting september (YAY :D) And i'm REALLY excited! I need the teaching and if it's gonna be done by a school i plan to apply to again next year, even better :] In my (totally theoritic, since i'm speaking from what i think and not what i know :d ) opinion going into fundies of a program you wanna go to, and into the school you wanna get into, is the perfect catch. They probably know a lot about what Sheridan wants in the portfolio and the like so getting in might be easier then when you're just drawing what you think they want. Or not. :]

[kennygeeze]

I would take the art fundamentals course at the school you're interested in continuing at (if you can even figure it out this early in time)

If you really want animation at sheridan then during your fundies year at sheridan you can sign up to get a senior tutor directly from your program of choice to help you with life-drawing and even things like portfolio. $20 for 10 hours... not a bad deal.

Plus just being at the school you can meet people in the actual program and see work -- then truely decide if it's something you're interested in.

Edit: sorry, didn't see the post right above this.

[darth massacre]

Congrats Amarryth....now you take that "conditional" offer and use that 4 years to shove it up their asses.

[amarryth]

Congrats Amarryth....now you take that "conditional" offer and use that 4 years to shove it up their asses.

oh, yes.. haha.. i was already planning on it...

soo... who am i seeing on the 29th.. and who am i seeing in september? ohhh.. so exciting!

ps. i've got a fun idea.. but i'm keeping it top secret for now.. so when i've got some sort of group together i'll see what people think..

ciao!

[Taj]

Yo, count me in on both. Not sure about 29th though I kind of want to check out OCAD open house for the...people...and by people i mean...chicks..:bs: :bashful:

[Chichigo]

Taj: OCAD open house for you?? I think i'm going as a class field trip, May 5th. Have you ever been there before, because their exhibitions are great. This year they opened up a new area across the street at Village on the Grange where they're displaying all the art fundamentals work. So anybody who might be considering OCAD can check that out. My favourite is always their illustration work, the senior years have their shows at the very top floor. Good stuff. Same goes for sheridan, I've been to their open houses for two-three years now.

So is the general consensus here that apartment/housing is much better than residence at sheridan? I'm still very torn because i think safety is an issue here, not saying that apartments aren't safe, or that the fifteen minute walk to the college would be too hard, but this would be a new thing to be on my own, and its a bit scary.

[Taj]

Taj: OCAD open house for you?? I think i'm going as a class field trip, May 5th. Have you ever been there before, because their exhibitions are great. This year they opened up a new area across the street at Village on the Grange where they're displaying all the art fundamentals work. So anybody who might be considering OCAD can check that out. My favourite is always their illustration work, the senior years have their shows at the very top floor. Good stuff. Same goes for sheridan, I've been to their open houses for two-three years now.
Yeah, I'm really not considering OCAD, the best thing it can get me after graduation is a reputation; But, I did see some awesome work from illustration students. I went once to OCAD, got a shitty vibe from the school, but a really nice vibe from the students.

[Chichigo]

I totally agree with that. Its just not somewhere I think I'd want to go, not to be offensive, but there are a lot of different levels of skills going into first year at OCAD. It just doesn't seem to be as selective.

Plus I hate the building.

On the other hand, robert munsch's illustrator is an OCAD graduate. Love his stuff.

[amarryth]

So is the general consensus here that apartment/housing is much better than residence at sheridan? I'm still very torn because i think safety is an issue here, not saying that apartments aren't safe, or that the fifteen minute walk to the college would be too hard, but this would be a new thing to be on my own, and its a bit scary.

res is a waste of money.. and i really wouldn't worry about safety in oakville.. apartments are safer than houses if you're really concerned though, mainly because it's harder to get through the front door without a key, and you have so many neighbours.. i'm trying to figure out what to do still.. and seeing how much i'm going to be able to afford.. house would be cheaper and better 'cause you're living with alot more people.. but i don't know how many people are interested.. so we'll see... i'm not too too concerned yet...

chi: you're doing illy-fundies right?

[Taj]

robert munsch's
The memories you just brought back to me...ahh paper bag princess, the lessons you taught me.

[Chichigo]

Amaryth: Nope, illustration, like you. Five or six people from my school got into illustration too but i think most of them have other universities in mind, so lots of room will be freed up for the waitlisters. We might be in same class maybe ;p My dad is a real estate agent, and he was telling me it won't be necessary to look for housing until the summer so i don't need to worry about that now. I think no rez seems better, i haven't heard any good things about it.

[amarryth]

Amaryth: Nope, illustration, like you. Five or six people from my school got into illustration too but i think most of them have other universities in mind, so lots of room will be freed up for the waitlisters. We might be in same class maybe ;p My dad is a real estate agent, and he was telling me it won't be necessary to look for housing until the summer so i don't need to worry about that now. I think no rez seems better, i haven't heard any good things about it.

oh sweet! about the illy thing... keep me posted about what your dad sees.. i suggest as close as possible to the school without being ridiculously pricey, which shouldn't be toooo hard..

[Atazure]

Hrrm well i'll be there in Sept :] And from what i heard Oakville is not only safe but also a tad bit uuuh boring when it comes to entertainment :d But then again Toronto's like, what? 45 mins away? And they have a Shoe Museum! Now that can't be boring :D (sarcasm, irony not meant to be thar, i really REALLY consider a shoe museum interesting)

[Leeway]

If I'm able to get through with Animation then I may be looking for a place close by as well. It's just so much more convenient for me, and like someone said I wouldn't have to plan my schedule around how I'm getting home, and I could frequent extra life and events more often.

[Atazure]

Ohay, so, i've got this question. Any of you guys applied by mail and not by OCAS? Because i've got an email from sheridan (one probably you all got about the "You chose Sheridan, now Sheridan chose you" or sth by those lines), to accept my offer of admition through OCAS. So i created an account, but just as i figured, since i didn't apply through them there's no offer for me to accept. Anyone knows what i should do? Do you think i should recieve some kinda letter or sth? I'm puzzled :/

[SirGreenSock]

You should e-mail or if you can phone admissions and ask dude, or maybe other international students around here know?

[Atazure]

You should e-mail or if you can phone admissions and ask dude, or maybe other international students around here know?

Dudette, i think, that's the female form sin't it? Though i'm not sure ;D

Yea i calle dthem, but they're not working today, and i emailed them. I'm happy it's holidays but at the same time that means more waiting for their reply and i guess i should expect another one, that has a lot of text but no content :I

[Taj]

To the guy who got into Seneca and isn't sure about it:

Both Sheridan's and Seneca's animation programs were designed by the same guy. here are some Seneca students on blog spot that i found...
http://ericvanic.blogspot.com/
http://www.gavinball.blogspot.com/
http://linttrap.theroughsketch.com/
http://sundawei.blogspot.com/

[darth massacre]

Wow...thanks for the links Taj.


Either these guys are required to put up a blog for their daily artwork (school requirement) or they made a pact to do it. Either way I think its a pretty good way to encourage - or force - yourself to put things up for others to see and crit.

I have a blog too.....unfortunately its all about political ramblings.

[Atazure]

Oooh great links Taj! Thanks! :]

And everyone Happy Easter! Or Holidays, or sth, i'm not that good at being politicaly correct so...anyway, all the best :D

[dguy]

I got my acceptance to Animation Fundamental. I don't get it, is that like First year of Bachelor of Animation?

I scored 64 btw.

[darth massacre]

dguy, fundies are separate from the degree program. You will have to reapply for animation at the end of your fundies year.

I have no clue how the scoring system works or what criteria they're looking for exactly (having the scoresheet really does nothing much) so you should call to ask - though I don't believe the admin people know what they're talking about. Best bet is to ask friends already in the program.

[Kdeezy]

To the guy who got into Seneca and isn't sure about it:

Both Sheridan's and Seneca's animation programs were designed by the same guy. here are some Seneca students on blog spot that i found...
http://ericvanic.blogspot.com/
http://www.gavinball.blogspot.com/
http://linttrap.theroughsketch.com/
http://sundawei.blogspot.com/




thanks for the links taj, definetly looking forward to next year @ seneca, looking forward to everything except that long ass bus/subway ride each damn day to get there!

I got a question, is there such a thing as a BLUE ANIMATION PENCIL? or is it just a blue pencil crayon? and if there is where can i find me some. I looked @ curry's and couldnt find any, whats the proper name?

[Taj]

Ya, they're called Non-Photo Blue Pencils. I havn't gone looking for any, so not sure where to buy them.

[SirGreenSock]

Currys generally carries non-photo blue pencils. I'd recommend the ones from Kol-erase, theyre not waxy like pencil crayon and behave more like regular pencils. Also you can try light blue mechanical pencil leads, which I also found at Currys.
If neither works, just find a cheap, non-waxy, light blue or red pencil. Non-photo blues are good because scanners generally dont detect the lines(unless you press hard), but using a specific colour such as red or blue means you can just remove that colour channel in Photoshop and get the same effect.

[Leeway]

thanks for the links taj, definetly looking forward to next year @ seneca, looking forward to everything except that long ass bus/subway ride each damn day to get there!

I got a question, is there such a thing as a BLUE ANIMATION PENCIL? or is it just a blue pencil crayon? and if there is where can i find me some. I looked @ curry's and couldnt find any, whats the proper name?
As far as I know they are called Col-Erase pencils, and can be found in different colours. As for where they can be found, I've bought them from Loomis, Curry's, and the bookstore in Sheridan.

Non-photo Blue is extremely light and not visible to scanners and the like. I personally use the Light Blue Col-erase in all of my work.

EDIT: SirGreenSock beat me to the punch. And he's got more info to boot. Hehe.

[Kdeezy]

thanks, time go and get me some.

[Sanby]

Ok, I was in vienna for a week and I when I got back I got an offer for illustration fundies. I think I am going to take that over regular fundies. It's weird, because I put tons of work into my animation portfolio and got a shitty score and then put my illustration portfolio together in about 2 nights and did way better. Guess I should have actually put some effort into it. O well, now I have to work on a place to live.

Sanby

[Kdeezy]

Sanby, if u dont mind me asking what was ur animation portfolio's score?


I think i should have made a portfolio for illustration aswell, kinda pointless to worry about it now though.

[amarryth]

congrats sanby, are you still wanting to get into animation... or are you going to do illustration all the way now?

everyone, still looking for a place.. preferably all first year sheridan students... and if any of you exist that aren't coming directly out of high school, or can guarantee me you're not that immature :P

[Sanby]

Well my animation score was a grand total of 12. I honestly don't know what I did wrong. It was a big shock, but a good one I think. I mean, I knew I had work to do, but i didn't realize I had that much. I think my ego was starting to grow a bit, I was getting to cocky. That score put me in my place.

I got 38 in illustration. That's the minimum score required. Anyway, I am really stoked that I get to take illustration fundamentals. As for what I will take after that, I'm not sure. I will probably apply to both animation and illustration. But, that is still a year away and I have a lot to learn between now and then, so I may completely change my mind.

I will be lookng for a place. I will be probably checking into res, but obviously my chances arent great in which case I will be looking for somewhere else. I am coming straight out of highschool but I am honestly not that immature. I'm pretty quiet too.

I would preferably be looking for a place where I could have a visiter come over for a couple days on weekends sometimes i.e. my girlfriend.

Sanby

[thomasaurus]

Hmm. It looks like i'm destined for animation fundamentals come september. I'm still on the animation waiting list, and Linda Dalton hasn't gotten back to me about my appeal request. Honestly, I don't care anymore, an extra year of school won't kill me, the added formal training could really help.

For those coming to the Open House: We need to get this organized. Time, place, those coming, etc. I'm excited about setting up a possible CA rooming situation, and so should you.

[SirGreenSock]

That we do, I know myself and HEROIC are attending the open house, its next saturday, right?
We gotta figure out a meeting time and place. BTW Darth Massacre, i can't remember if I pm'ed you any more, in case I didnt, i'd be interested in looking at the apartments/meeting landlord on open house day.

PS- Nor, we'll discuss the Montreal Greyhound bus situation at the open house.

[darth massacre]

I'll talk to my building manager tomorrow morning and see if they can be around on the 29th.

If anyone is interested, 3rd year illustration students are holding a "end of year show" at 6pm along the Illustration A wing. If anyone is free to hang around till then, please do so and take a look at their stuff. There are some cool happenings with some of the artwork these guys have.

[amarryth]

hey guys, if you don't have issues living with a chick, like i said before.. i'd much rather room with people from ca than some random people in whatever program. i had a potential roomie, but sounds like he found a place already.. it looks like there alot of places with multiple rooms available between 400-500/month... which isn't too bad for oakville.. most places allow overnight guests, sanby, and i'd prefer to have a place that the landlord doesn't live in.. just would feel more comfortable and home-like that way.. and yeah, i really don't care how old you guys are, just no drama please! lol, i've had to deal with too much of that already...

anyway, if you're interested, i'm going into first year illustration, i've already done a year and a half at sheridan, so i can help out you fundies kids.. i've finally developed some good work ethic.. haha, i sound like i'm trying to sell myself here.. anyway..

next saturday, i'll be there hopefully for 9:30ish so i can make it in time for the illustration seminar or whatever it is.. then chill out for the day.. you newcomers would be best to pick the place to meet since the school is pretty confusing before you know it.. don't pick somewhere that's going to be incredibly busy.. like the cage.. aaaanyway, i'll be going with darth's group to check out the apts.. maybe we could even make arrangements for who wants to possibly live with who while we're there..

alright.. i think that's it...

ciao dudes

[Amazing Action Ape]

im going to be at the open house too, probably all day, im down to meet up! YEAH! :) sketch a thon it too if anyones interested.

[darth massacre]

hey guys, if you don't have issues living with a chick, like i said before..
No problems rooming with a hot chick here :teeth: I'm kidding, my apartment is already fully stocked or I'd offer a room. Anyway I believe $450 is the magic number. Anything above that is not worth it unless cable/internet OR food is thrown in, that or you have a huge room to yourself. And yeah, not that living with a landlord is a bad thing, I lived with a retired chinese couple for a school year and they were great. Except it always feels wierd to be living in "someone else's" home. If you guys get an apartment its always slightly easier because its "your rules".

[amarryth]

haha...

yeah, the landlord thing, that's exactly how i would feel... hell, i live with my mom and stepdad again and ever since i came back it feels like i'm living in 'someone else's' home.. i'm the little ogre in the basement... and i must get out!!!! being stuck underground in a non-stimulating environment is realllllly bad for the creative juices.. SAVE ME!

ok, now it's tired me talking.. i should probably sleep.. ciao~

[Sanby]

When is the open house? and is it worth going to?

Sanby

[amarryth]

saturday the 29th, there's student work from all of the arts programs; i mainly go for the illustration stuff (obviously), and for the viewing of the animation short films... absolutely incredible. there are tons of prints for sale and so on. if you are new to the school, it's a great way to get acquainted... two years ago this month was when i knew that was where i wanted to study... plus, word has it we're having a cA meet up.. hopefully a sketchbook session.. it'll be good times dude..

[Sanby]

So is this an open house only for people going to sheridan? Meaning, there will be different stuff then at the other open houses. Or, is this more of an end of year gallery thing.

Sanby

[SirGreenSock]

Bit of both I guess, but its primarily for those attending next year.

Can't wait to meet up and sketch with you all!

[Taj]

I doubt there will be another guy with shaved head so look for me. (Taj is my real name).

[Sanby]

Ok, where is the damn info for this open house?

Sanby

[SirGreenSock]

you shouldve recieved an email from Sheridan about it.
http://www1.sheridaninstitute.ca/offer/ <- sign up for info session

[Amazing Action Ape]

Troubles a brewin!

I work the day of the open house at 5pm, im going to try and get it off though so that i can have the whole day to chill. Otherwise ill be at sheridan until 330ish.

[darth massacre]

I've talked to the building manager and she says it should be okay for you guys to visit on the 29th, but she's not absolutely sure she'll have empty apartments for you guys unless you specify a date to move in.

[alxcote]

We had a great day at school today. It was so nice outside too. Apart from us breaking a window of the side of the school with water balloons it was prime.

what's up darth?

what the hell's jack been up to? ..i never see him around anymore. on the boards or IRL.

[endregan]

Im around, you sneaky animator. Just keeping busy as usual. I sometimes stare at you while your working and breathe heavily. Yeah... I know, not really.

So end of the year dinner Friday night if anyones down. 7pm ish we can meet in the fundies pitt then go from there. Does that work for everyone ? Bring yer sketchbooks and cameras!

[darth massacre]

Alex, where the devil have you been? Haven't seen you around much.

I'm down....but lets make it 6 instead.

Everyone here are welcome.

Yeah, sketchbook and cameras.

Here's another problem.....where are we gonna eat? Swiss Chalet again?

[Allegro]

Not sure who is interested, but I started a thread last week... it'd be great to get some participants... there'll likely be a few sheridan peoples participating

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65878

[alxcote]

So end of the year dinner Friday night if anyones down. 7pm ish we can meet in the fundies pitt then go from there. Does that work for everyone ? Bring yer sketchbooks and cameras!

hold on.... this friday or the next one?

[darth massacre]

This one, coz we figure most people will egress by next friday evening given the extended semester due to the strike. C'mon Alex....I'm sure you can spare a couple hours.


Allegro, are we actually meeting up for this one or just working on our own then putting them up here?

[Allegro]

nah, we don't meet up for these, just post it online... me and Psyonic were kind of starting it as a way to keep in touch when he heads home this summer (we're both in animation) but we figured, why not get other people involved too?

I'm hoping to try and get some grads involved too

[amarryth]

I'm down....but lets make it 6 instead.

Everyone here are welcome.

Yeah, sketchbook and cameras.

Here's another problem.....where are we gonna eat? Swiss Chalet again?

any not-quite-sheridians gonna show? i'll go but i don't want to be the only one...

[alxcote]

This one, coz we figure most people will egress by next friday evening given the extended semester due to the strike. C'mon Alex....I'm sure you can spare a couple hours.

nah man sorry i really can't make it, i got something planned out after school that day. shitty.

Anyway, if you guys are making something the last week just post up about it.

alx

[Amazing Action Ape]

ive got friday off, but ill be at a toronto comicon for the later part of friday, id still be interested in some dinner though.

EDIT: nevermind thats next friday, im a moron.

[amarryth]

ive got friday off, but ill be at a toronto comicon for the later part of friday, id still be interested in some dinner though.

EDIT: nevermind thats next friday, im a moron.

does that mean you're going to be able to make it?

oh, and i just realized.. i might not be able to make it out until 730 ish.. anyone want to make the dinner later??

[Amazing Action Ape]

I could make it if the dinner was like 930 - 10pm. 6 or 7... no dice! :S

[Sanby]

Anyone take Illustration Fundamentals this year? What was the curriculum?

Sanby

[Taj]

ive got friday off, but ill be at a toronto comicon for the later part of friday, id still be interested in some dinner though.

EDIT: nevermind thats next friday, im a moron.
Cya at comic con dude.

[amarryth]

Anyone take Illustration Fundamentals this year? What was the curriculum?

Sanby


the curriculum is the same as regular fundies, as far as course titles go.. but you do less pointless work, they expect you to be a bit better than a grade one level (which is how some of the instructors treat you in regular fundies) lol.... you do more illustrative type work.. just basically a preparation for ba illustration... with the learning benefits of a fundies course.. painting and drawing class do wonders for everyone's abilities, most of the instructors are amazing, and in illustration fundies, all of the instructors work in the field, either fine artists or illustrators.. it's pretty good and i think there's only two classes of illustration fundies this year (same as last year) so it's a nice small group and you get an extra year to learn who you're going to be going to school with for the next half decade.. some people decide it's not for them, and that's good too, it's better than wasting $6,500 on a program you have no interest in. there's no computer class though, it's all traditional stuff, which makes sense since portfolio needs to be all traditional anyway... but yeah, i hope that helps a bit.. basically, it's a good program, take it. if you do your work, you will learn.. i've never learned so much in a year than i did in my fundies year.. good luck.. and go to EXTRA LIFE!!! lol.. ciao dude :P

[endregan]

Okay so if this friday is busy for a lot of people, how about next friday night, how does that look? Let me know, if its the same situation we will just do it tomorrow and try to make it so as many people as possible can come.

[Amazing Action Ape]

Cya at comic con dude.


Sweet! who else is going to that? we should have a CA meet just for that! :P hahaha and im free next friday, i booked the day off for the comic con, so i could make dinner sometime that friday.

[endregan]

Okay, so it appears next Friday is better for everyone. Dinnner NEXT FRIDAY!! Meet up at the school at 6pm at the fundies pitt, then we will wait for a while sketch and whatever then head out to good ol Swiss Chalet for some tasty.

Seeya there! Get your finals done haha.

[alxcote]

Okay, so it appears next Friday is better for everyone. Dinnner NEXT FRIDAY!! Meet up at the school at 6pm at the fundies pitt, then we will wait for a while sketch and whatever then head out to good ol Swiss Chalet for some tasty.

Seeya there! Get your finals done haha.


sounds good, i'll be there.. my gf might tag along as well. :P

[amarryth]

i'll be working... on afternoon shift for my first two weeks, sadly... but whoever's around on the saturday, i'll catch you there.. i plan to hang out for most of the day.. take some pics at the dinner!!

[Odynia]

Hi! I've been following this thread for some time, actually while I was waiting for acceptance into Sheridan. I ended up with a conditional acceptance ( the condition was that I have to finish high school ) and I have a question about the portfolio evaluation sheet that I was wondering if any of you could answer for me.
I had some problem with structure, I ended up with a 2/10 in it, and was wondering if anyone could give me some help and clarify what structure actually entails? Thanks in advance!

[amarryth]

Hi! I've been following this thread for some time, actually while I was waiting for acceptance into Sheridan. I ended up with a conditional acceptance ( the condition was that I have to finish high school ) and I have a question about the portfolio evaluation sheet that I was wondering if any of you could answer for me.
I had some problem with structure, I ended up with a 2/10 in it, and was wondering if anyone could give me some help and clarify what structure actually entails? Thanks in advance!

i'm assuming you're referring to the animation portfolio.. my guess is that structure is referring to your characters.. you probably didn't show much rough work underneath the final lines of the drawing, which you should have which shows that you basically know where the spine and joints and such would approximately sit.. hopefully that makes sense with it, maybe some animators could give a bit more insight?

[darth massacre]

sounds good, i'll be there.. my gf might tag along as well. :P
How many? :teeth:

Next Friday sounds good. In fact my school year should be done by Thrusday afternoon.

[trickynick1001]

Hi. I've just been accepted into the Art Fundimentals - Animation program. I applied to the Bachelor of Applied Arts Animation, but my portfolio didn't make the cut :( . I'm just wondering what to expect from the course, because there's no information about it on the Sheridan website. Is it basically the same thing as the regular art fundi?
Also, will this course really help me get into the BAA? I really want to become an animator, and would like to get into the BAA course. I'm just anxious, I guess.
Thanks

[jordanwan]

Hi,

My name is Jordan Wan and I'm a second year Animation student at Sheridan. I was just wondering if anybody needed an apartment for the upcomming year.

If you are interested in knowing more, please email me at

jordan.lamarrewan@sheridanc.on.ca
or call me at 905-339-1709


Jordan

[Atazure]

Sooo? How did it go guys. Did you have fun? :)

[Leeway]

Some of my work might be put up for the open house guys. Hope you'll enjoy it.

[Atazure]

Oooh! congratulations Leeway. What major are you in? Aimation?

[Leeway]

Oh no, I wish! I'm in the Animation Fundies program right now. I'm unfortunately on the waiting list for animation. Hopefully I'll pull through by some sort of miraclulous outcome of events! =p

[Atazure]

Oh no, I wish! I'm in the Animation Fundies program right now. I'm unfortunately on the waiting list for animation. Hopefully I'll pull through by some sort of miraclulous outcome of events! =p

You're still on the waiting list?! OMG, that is just so over the top! How long do you thing they're going to keep you in this horrible state? Man, now i'm seriously going to help them out with all this acceptance stuff next year, they wanting my help or not :grandpa:

Did you enjoy fundies? You think it was worth going to? Asking caus ei got into fundies this year. Collecting info :d Oh adn did you live in the dorm or an apartment or house or something else?

[Leeway]

Yeah, the thing with the waiting list is that it can be anywhere from late May, up until the fifth day of classes in the fall (!) before they give you a call to come in; and this is only in the event of some seats becoming available in that time span. So yeah, it's kind of like sitting in limbo.

I've done both the regular core art fundies, and now I'm in the midst of finishing up the animation stream. I've gotta say that I've enjoyed this stream immensely, words can hardly express how much better I find this program to be than the core. It's been a great experience all around, and I've learned a great deal more in this program compared to the core as well.

Right now I'm living at home with my family, which is about 45-60 mins. away, just for the ease of expenses and stuff. The only thing with this is that, like previously discussed, it puts a real hamper on any plans you have because you've gotta work your schedule around getting to and from home.

[endregan]

Sooo? How did it go guys. Did you have fun? :)


The dinner is this Friday!! Should be fun though. Anyone have an idea if they can come or not? Give us a heads up so we know how many to expect and whos going!

[Atazure]

Leeway Aaagh! That's bad. Man, you can have your whole vacation destroyed if you're not stress reluctant D: Not fun. I'll have my fingers crossed for you and i'll ask some of my friends to do the same!

I'm gla dto hear that, for the second or third time, since you're not the only one praising that program :] Now i'm even more excited!

With your family huh? I'm kinda envious, thought the time spent for riding is kind of a pity :/ Have you uheard anything about the dorms? I was thinking about maybe choosing them, thought from what i hear, they're choosing people through a lottery (the hell??), so i'm not sure how that goes. :B

edregan: I see, have fun then :D And remember not to eat unhealthy things! Make photos so that the rest of us can oogle over the fun you'r egonna have!

[SirGreenSock]

Hope you guys have fun on Friday, the ride is too long for me to make it, but I'll be at the open house on Saturday.
We gotta hurry up and figure out where we're gonna meet and when!

[Taj]

How early do I have to wake up for this again? haha. Well, I'll try to stay as long as I can for your art show thing Dath :).
Sweet! who else is going to that? we should have a CA meet just for that! :P hahaha and im free next friday, i booked the day off for the comic con, so i could make dinner sometime that friday.
Heh If you see a guy with a shaved head and emo glasses(not emo) just say hi.

[Leeway]

Leeway Aaagh! That's bad. Man, you can have your whole vacation destroyed if you're not stress reluctant D: Not fun. I'll have my fingers crossed for you and i'll ask some of my friends to do the same!

I'm gla dto hear that, for the second or third time, since you're not the only one praising that program :] Now i'm even more excited!

With your family huh? I'm kinda envious, thought the time spent for riding is kind of a pity :/ Have you uheard anything about the dorms? I was thinking about maybe choosing them, thought from what i hear, they're choosing people through a lottery (the hell??), so i'm not sure how that goes. :B
Thanks for the support. I think you'll really enjoy the animation stream of fundies. You're definitely going to learn a lot and you will develop a lot more as an artist. One thing that I didn't take advantage of when I had the chance, was getting a tutor for life drawing, so I would recommend it. The people who did have tutors experienced a dramatic increase in the quality of their life drawings (exponentially I would say). If it should come down to it, and I have to take this program again, I'll probably get a tutor.

As for the residence, I've got a few classmates in res, and I've been there a couple times. It seems to be a bit too much in price, and the things I've heard are sort of a mixed bag.

I may go to the open house on Saturday too just to scope out the work from my peers, if anything I'll see you guys there. If you're meeting up at a certain place just let me know.

[amarryth]

is anyone else going to the illustration info session thing @ 10 on saturday? i'll be there, and i'm not sure how long it'll last, so i suggest we all meet up 12 or 1ish? what time can everyone actually make it there for? i guess a good place to meet would be on the stairs at the front of the school, i'm pretty sure that one is the scaet building, but it's basically all windows, to the left if you're looking straight at the school.. someone make a ridiculously large and dorky sign ("CA MEETUP!!!") or something haha.. or we can all just chill with sketchbooks and figure it out... anyway, guys.. let me know what you think, or if anyone has any better ideas.. i just figured i'd take some initiative since no one else is :P

[Taj]

Yeah, I'll be at the front for sure (though I might be late because if the animation hallway is open I'll be looking at that).

[thomasaurus]

Amarryth settled it. Meetup at the SCAET building at noon. Bring yer gear.

I finally got a reply from admissions about my appeal request... I have to drop off my portfolio at the school before friday... and I'm going to the school again for the open house. What a time for gas to go up! Grumble...

[darth massacre]

Who's up for the CA dinner on Friday? Confirm ASAP. Or it'll be just Endregan, Spruce, Alex and myself.....again.....LOL

[SirGreenSock]

Cool so amarryth settles it. :P
I'll see you guys on saturday then, too bad I'll be missing fridays activities though.

[alxcote]

My gf told me today that 2 of our friends want to invite us to some diner on friday. In any case i'll propose her if the 4 of us could join in with you guys or something. *cross fingers*

[darth massacre]

LOL....good luck alex. I'll see you guys friday...or not.

[endregan]

pshh whatever ill go by myself !! just kidding, but seriously. At least a few of the founding fathers will be around so come if you want. Its hard competition with all these potluck parties going on! Why not do both!

[Hexal]

lol weak showing on the dinner there, i wont be there ofcourse lol, congrats to those who got in to what they wanted.

[alxcote]

k i might bring 3 to 5 people with me on friday.. i need some confirmation from them tomorow and then ill tell ya guys about it.

[endregan]

bring faroq that guy will do anything for french fries. haha that works on so many levels...
Yeah a couple people from my class are probably coming. Illustrators are a little random and can hardly plan these things its usually on the fly for us. Excuses aside, lookin forward to it!

[alxcote]

shit guys i can't make it, gotta head out to a different diner on friday.. can't really do anything about it. But if a change comes up i'll inform/show up. in any case im sorry, i'll do my best to be on the next one. :/

alx

[Leeway]

For those of you going into Animation fundies, I just thought I'd let you know that you may be getting some different teachers than the ones we had this year.

Tigh Walker (http://www.tighwalker.ca), our layout teacher landed a gig at CORE (the company who did "The Wild"), so due to some constraints, he may not be teaching in the fall. Which is quite disheartening, as he's a great teacher, and I learned a lot from him. Check out his site.

And Vivien Ludlow, our 2-D design (character design and storyboard) teacher may very well be retiring this year. She is extremely knowledgeable, as she's been teaching in the animation program at Sheridan for quite a long time. I've learned quite a great deal from her as well, she's a bit hard to please at times, but I love her for it. She keeps me earnest in my work and she's definitely one of my "go to" teachers when I need help working something out.

[endregan]

aww too bad alex cant make it. we should totally go to the same restaurant and have two sides of animation vs illustration. That would be one hell of a food fight :D. But jokes aside, youll be missed!

Its still on Tonight 6pm meet at the fundies pitt, we will wait a bit then leave so dont come too late!

[thomasaurus]

Quick rollcall for those coming to the sketchmeet tomorrow, and darth, where should we meet you? at your apt building?

[Taj]

I'll be there.

[SirGreenSock]

I'm there, bringing HEROIC and another friend most likely.

[Amazing Action Ape]

Illlll beeeeeeee theeeeeerrrrrrreeeeeeee!!!! *cue cheesy 80s music*
Youll know its me because there will be hordes of undead following in my wake.

[Taj]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/tajn/IMG_0130.jpg
You guy's should've come.

[amarryth]

i'll be there too... about to go to sleep.. you guys probably won't get this message before tomorrow.. but yeah, i haven't been on here in a few days so i figured i'd check up on the situation.. anyway, sounds like i'm the only girl at this meet.. so uh.. look for a girl, if it's sunny.. i'll have my orange sunglasses on.. but yeah, we'll probably figure out eachother pretty easily, all the lonely/lost looking losers hanging out on the stairs haha... we're not losers though. we're tres cool! see you guys in a couple hours!

[darth massacre]

I'll have my CA FRIENDLY badge on. AND I'll probably be limping. In any case, just break out a sketchbook to draw and see if anyone else does the same.

[ambyuler]

If I see a big group of you I'll come over and say hi, but I've got other plans for the day.

[arghmisfit]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/tajn/IMG_0130.jpg
You guy's should've come. whos piece is that??

[endregan]

Good dinner, look at these busy sketchers!

http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/2006dinner/1.jpg
http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/2006dinner/2.jpg
http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/2006dinner/3.jpg
http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/2006dinner/5.jpg
http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/2006dinner/4.jpg



Kennygeez finally came out with us and a couple from school along with some Ca'ers. Maybe next year we can take over half of swiss chalet. Seeya guys and have a good summer

[Sanby]

O man, you guys are a quirky looking bunch

On another note. I was at the Sheridan Open house thing today. I know that there is an illustration show opening night tonight. Can anyone give me anymore details than that? Is there an animation show on as well where we can see all the animation students work? I would like to go, but I already saw most of the illustration stuff this morning. I want to see some animation. SOME ONE LET ME KNOW!!!

Sanby

[endregan]

Sanby- yeah lets just say our dinner conversations are totally ridiculously awesome with randomness.

I briefly met a lot of you guys from CA today checking out the apartment. That would be crazy if conceptart slowly took over the 9th floor haha. It was pretty short meet but I have packing to do...going back home for the summer tomorrow!

[amarryth]

great meetup today, guys! i'll scan my sketches later... getting über excited for september now.. we're already planning huge ass beginning of the semester dinner... yesss! how did everyone like the show? i wasn't impressed as previous years had a ton more work and stuff to buy, but i guess that's because of the strike.. ah well... we're gonna have a great time next year, can't wait until the next meet.. :D

[Taj]

Awesome meetup...any by awesome I mean moderatley cool. Sorry i ditched you and Brad, I went to the art show again. There was an amazing artist there who had his sketchbooks as the pieces, but i forgot his name. Maybe Darth can help me out, it was Matt H..something something, and he had a site that was his name so i wanted to check him out.

Darth, Awesome Haircut, i might copy it :p

[darth massacre]

@ Taj: THEY PUT UP SKETCHBOOKS!?! bloody hell...should've went in to take a look.

I've had that haircut for years :D would be funny to see another guy with it in school.

[Taj]

I'll take it to an extreme.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/tajn/IMG_2161.jpg

[Moiss]

great meetup today, guys! i'll scan my sketches later... getting über excited for september now.. we're already planning huge ass beginning of the semester dinner... yesss! how did everyone like the show? i wasn't impressed as previous years had a ton more work and stuff to buy, but i guess that's because of the strike.. ah well... we're gonna have a great time next year, can't wait until the next meet.. :D


Somehow I agree with you, Amarryth.......the setup is not so organized somehow......hopefully it's gonna be better next year...

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I guess I wouldnt be able to differentiate Darth and Taj...:D

[Taj]

Moiss you were there?

[SirGreenSock]

Great meetup guys, was cool to meet the lot of you. Thanks a lot to darth for showing around the apartments, thats the top res place Im looking at so far! :D
The illustrator who caught my eye first was martin wittfooth. (http://www.martinwittfooth.com/)

[Sanby]

You know, I have to say most of the illustration stuff was a little too "artsy fartsy everything is art as long as it comes from the heart modern art - ish" for me. And it looked like everyone was trying to do that find your own weirdo style thing, but they all managed to look really really similar. Atleast, a lot of them did. That was just the impression I got. I mean, does the program force you to go into that "cartoony sketchy child like" style of drawing?

Sanby

[SirGreenSock]

I dunno, seems to me that kind of style is popular right now. Some of it turned out good, it worked with the artists, although yeah, there were a couple that seemed forced or generic I think.
The style has nothing to do with modern art really, just another form of stylization. I don't personally like it when artists force a style unto themselves, most of the time its obvious, but whatever thats just me.

[Taj]

...although yeah, there were a couple that seemed forced or generic I think..
I get that vibe from a lot of animation people too though. For the most part I liked the 'similar' style they all had. Except for one guy who made his name tag out of lined paper and had it up with a tack...His stuff looked rushed and really forced.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yeah sorry our meeting was cut so short, but I had just made my sandwich and had to get back to lunch =D

Not all the work was my cuppa tea either, but there were some really awesome ideas floating around, which is more geared towards editorial kind of illustration where thinking outside the box is an asset. We'll see what everyone comes up with in a few years time :) Its all about skill building, and ideas are just as important as traditional skills.

I hope to see you guys again after summer and actually get a chance to talk.

Goodnight folks!

[Amazing Action Ape]

Was awesome meeting the majority of you all, sorry i was like half an hour late and missed out on prime sketch time! :@ Nor, i believe, was cool talking to you, and i hope you get some kickass footage of the workshop!

[darth massacre]

Moiss you were there?
No man...he was asleep until like 4 in the afternoon or something. LOL

Glad I could help out greensock....it should be fun having CA-ers living closeby to one another.



I just came back from a super awesome illustration party....waaaay too much fun with the marshmallow fight towards the end of it.

[thomasaurus]

damn, I missed the illustration show... serves me right for wasting my time at the info session

good meetup, its great to match faces with names, and darth (terry, right?) thanks again for giving us a tour of your building. I'll be keeping an eye on it.

AAA I'll definitely get some quality pictures at the workshop, force greensock to take some too *shakes fist*

[SirGreenSock]

Hehe I'll have to figure something out, maybe borrow a friends, my digi cam just broke down last week. :O :(
If they let us tape some of it, I might even bring my camera and record bits and pieces of everything!

[darth massacre]

and darth (terry, right?)
Its Jerry :teeth: When you hear Endregan and Spruce calling "gary" they're talking to their imaginary friend.



Oh yeah guys.....whoever's going to Montreal should confirm a list here. Red Mimic should be going with a friend of ours too (she's not a CA member). I'm not so sure about car pooling, but at least there's a considerable Sheridan showing if you guys are going there.



I'm out of budget or I'd go.

[kennygeeze]

Gah, I totally missed the open house (my own fault I guess) I saw a little bit when they were setting up friday, and then a little bit when they were taking down sunday. Not really any of the good stuff in between unfortunately. It was 4:00 on sunday before I even realized what day it was.

I had a couple paintings up in the show for anyone who cares though... I was was one of the sitting guys done in waterclor and the asian guy accompanied by woman in a red dress done in oils. There were plenty of other randitions of the same subject matter so I guess I can describe mine the best as being the 'messy ones'. :)

You know, I have to say most of the illustration stuff was a little too "artsy fartsy everything is art as long as it comes from the heart modern art - ish" for me. And it looked like everyone was trying to do that find your own weirdo style thing, but they all managed to look really really similar. Atleast, a lot of them did. That was just the impression I got. I mean, does the program force you to go into that "cartoony sketchy child like" style of drawing?

Sanby

As I saw very very little of this year's show it'd be hard for me to comment on this, but from my limited experience of actually recieving art direction (in an illustration sense) from a couple teachers this year I can say that...

1# the interpretive stream in sheridan's illustration program seems to have a pretty heavy focus on editorial illustration (as alot of the illustrator portion of the faculty seem to specialize in that -- with actual fine artists teaching the other courses) so it would seem to make sense that alot of the graduates would be looking for work in that area. If you look at the larger areas of editorial illustration -- parenting magazine, business, lifestyle, etc ... there is alot of really simplified abstracted images. The styles are all really far-removed from representational imagery... so I can see how graduates would be trying to play up to that expectation. Editorial illustration is more about concept than making pretty pictures. You still have to make a pretty painting, but it's usually more important that the concept be clever and well-communicated. And by that I don't mean conceptual stuff alla really arty farty fine art (orange block next to blue block represents society)...but images people actually understand.

2# I sometimes find myself picking up stylistic conventions of my profs . If I sketch out a concept and they don't like the composition, they'll sketch out their version to show me what they mean. Sometimes when I move on into fruther stages of the roughs I'll catch myself and realize that the eyebrows or noses of my characters have kinda morphed into how my teachers drew them. It's hard to watch someone else draw out your concept and still retain stylistic individuality -- sometimes.


I mean, does the program force you to go into that "cartoony sketchy child like" style of drawing?


Well, no one is really forced to do it -- but I've noticed the people in the year ahead of me no longer really find it 'challenging' to render a realistic figure with a stick of black conte anymore.
When I was in fundies all that really mattered was how well you could render the figure, or how well you could draw a face... but as I went on every year there were just other things that came into play and became way more important. Drawing the figure was still important and after a while it was just expected (or you were killed grade-wise), but 3rd year I think is more about creating original images rather than (hey I can render this face really really real) -- because everyone by 3rd year probably can just pull one of their asses..
I bet if you looked at the lifedrawing of the people with the craziest-most abstracted styles, you'd probably find some damn solid figures behind it all.

[Sanby]

I'm Going to the Workshop!!! And So is Greensock and Heroic. (Sorry for speaking for you guys, I just got so damned excited)

Sanby

[darth massacre]

You know, I have to say most of the illustration stuff was a little too "artsy fartsy everything is art as long as it comes from the heart modern art - ish" for me. And it looked like everyone was trying to do that find your own weirdo style thing, but they all managed to look really really similar. Atleast, a lot of them did. That was just the impression I got. I mean, does the program force you to go into that "cartoony sketchy child like" style of drawing?

I'll add on what Kenny has to say. If you're looking for a place to nurture skills in the hardcore way, you can consider trying for Academy of Realist Art in toronto instead of illustration major in Sheridan or OCAD. Atelier styled, super tough.

[Taj]

drop it off in person to the address and room number listed in the Application Selection Letter that outlined the portfolio requirements
Can someone help me find the room number...

[thomasaurus]

I'm Going to the Workshop!!! And So is Greensock and Heroic. (Sorry for speaking for you guys, I just got so damned excited)

Sanby

What I get the short end of the straw? ahahaha

[Sanby]

Question: If I accepted a Conditional offer, what happens after? Am I waiting for a package or something to get mailed to me?

BTW, how do I know what the start date of the Fundies - Illustration course is? I need to put it on the Res application form.

Sorry for shafting you nor, I haven't been paying attention and I've only ever met Greensock and Heroic so they popped up when I thought workshop. I hope we can still be friends, hugs all around.

Sanby

[Sanby]

Ok I just read where it says to apply for OSAP I just did that. All I have to do is set up an account or is there more I have to do?

Sanby

[kennygeeze]

Question: If I accepted a Conditional offer, what happens after? Am I waiting for a package or something to get mailed to me?

BTW, how do I know what the start date of the Fundies - Illustration course is? I need to put it on the Res application form.


Conditional offer usually means you have to complete or get something before they let you in. So if you're still in highschool you have to complete that or if you're missing a required credit you have to get it before they'll let you start the program.
They should tell you... but...
Don't wait for them to contact you... sheridan sucks as far as being on the ball goes (past two years they haven't even been good about sending me tuition bills... I've always had to call and ask)
E-mail them or call admissions.

School starts usually the day after labor day. They'll probably send you a package of some sort... and in that the whole res stuff... don't count on getting in though.

[Atazure]

Hey. Can anyone from the international people tell me what are you guys trnslating in place of that OSD thing they want? I'm kind alost at what they want from me. Is it my high school graduation diploma? Is it my grade list?

[Moiss]

Atazure= what translation do u mean? your transcript? i believe the international centre wants the latest education you achieved.....if you're graduating fresh from High School and apply directly to Sheridan, then your grade 12 transcript is the one u should submit.....if you have another education, like maybe a certificate, then they might want both......

[Atazure]

Atazure= what translation do u mean? your transcript? i believe the international centre wants the latest education you achieved.....if you're graduating fresh from High School and apply directly to Sheridan, then your grade 12 transcript is the one u should submit.....if you have another education, like maybe a certificate, then they might want both......

Well that's what i wasn't sure :/ But i calle dthem, and they said they want everything from me. Both my highschool diploma and transcript...whatever that might be.

[lorez]

Greetings

i went to Sheridan right from high school and i got in to residence.
i went when i was 18 and my portfolio rated in the top 10%.
i averaged a 3.8 GPA. i have been working full time in the industry for several year since i graduated.

my portfolio was just as they asked to the letter . i followed it and did all new material. i took two weeks off high school ( almost got expelled for skipping) to do all new work. and i got in.

to be honest the experience was VERY disappointing. alot of the instructors ( there are exceptions) have not worked in the industry in years. they are out of touch with their skills and the trade. my money would of been better spent at home sketching drawing and practicing every day. being a Sheridan grad has never opened any doors for me in the industry. ask yourself why you might even go and what you think it may do for you.what are your expectations?

I hope this was not discouraging as it was not meant to be. just recounting my experiences. just follow the portfolio requirements very carefully. do all new work if you have time. this represents your most current skills. if they ask to see work outside of the guidelines. only include your best work.seems simple but often overlooked. if your best stuff is only 2 things, then don't add more. don't forget they seen thousands of these portfolios. don't send sci-fi or this type of thing as they TONNES of and get sick of it. dont piss them off whith crap or stuff they have seen a million times. don't forget lots of figure drawing.

good luck

[Taj]

Greetings

i went to Sheridan right from high school and i got in to residence.
i went when i was 18 and my portfolio rated in the top 10%.
i averaged a 3.8 GPA. i have been working full time in the industry for several year since i graduated.

my portfolio was just as they asked to the letter . i followed it and did all new material. i took two weeks off high school ( almost got expelled for skipping) to do all new work. and i got in.

to be honest the experience was VERY disappointing. alot of the instructors ( there are exceptions) have not worked in the industry in years. they are out of touch with their skills and the trade. my money would of been better spent at home sketching drawing and practicing every day. being a Sheridan grad has never opened any doors for me in the industry. ask yourself why you might even go and what you think it may do for you.what are your expectations?

I hope this was not discouraging as it was not meant to be. just recounting my experiences. just follow the portfolio requirements very carefully. do all new work if you have time. this represents your most current skills. if they ask to see work outside of the guidelines. only include your best work.seems simple but often overlooked. if your best stuff is only 2 things, then don't add more. don't forget they seen thousands of these portfolios. don't send sci-fi or this type of thing as they TONNES of and get sick of it. dont piss them off whith crap or stuff they have seen a million times. don't forget lots of figure drawing.

good luck

Do you have a site? which program are you talking about.

[amarryth]

yes, which program are you talking about?

i think you get out of an education what you put into it... some people are fine without going to art college; but others, like me, need alot of guidance.. there's only so much you can do on your own before you need an outsider's perspective.. i'm sure lorez got something out of being at sheridan, but it's such a gradual progression you almost feel like you could have done it on your own... i found that with fundies, alot of people got frustrated that the instructors weren't teaching us how to do this and how to do that.. but they gave us the right assignments for us to almost help us self teach, they gave out the odd technique, but they weren't there to teach us how to draw or paint or design like they do, they were there to guide us when we got stuck.. but they had us doing the work.. and isn't that what an education should be? someone teaching you how to teach yourself? ah, but that's just my perspective.. i could be completely wrong-

but i doubt i am...

[endregan]

well put amarryth. You learn from your peers and making yourself do it the most, the instructors are their to guide you as best they can. No school can be perfect, if you must, go find a school that has exactly what you are looking for but a lot of those are $100,000 a year and honestly I dont know how anyone can afford that! It is doable but why spend that much when you can focus on what you wish to do in your own time. Obviously lorez is very self disciplined and took it upon himself to figure things out which is exactly what everyone should do, though dont blame instructors and school's that is way too general!

Well this will be my last post all summer, Im going up to Northern Ontario to treeplant and then camp counsel for 2 months after that. Have a fun summer and seeya guys come September!

[Kdeezy]

yes, which program are you talking about?

i think you get out of an education what you put into it... some people are fine without going to art college; but others, like me, need alot of guidance.. there's only so much you can do on your own before you need an outsider's perspective.. i'm sure lorez got something out of being at sheridan, but it's such a gradual progression you almost feel like you could have done it on your own... i found that with fundies, alot of people got frustrated that the instructors weren't teaching us how to do this and how to do that.. but they gave us the right assignments for us to almost help us self teach, they gave out the odd technique, but they weren't there to teach us how to draw or paint or design like they do, they were there to guide us when we got stuck.. but they had us doing the work.. and isn't that what an education should be? someone teaching you how to teach yourself? ah, but that's just my perspective.. i could be completely wrong-

but i doubt i am...


i dunno if i agree with that, i mean for animation atleast there are things that MOST students that go into the program have NEVER done, and have no clue as to how to do it and if the instructor is just gonna instruct u to learn urself without TEACHING u then what is the point of that, people go to school to learn and u cant learn without being taught.

and honestly if im sitting there next year @ seneca and am being taught NOTHING at all and spending a good deal of money only to end up doing what i do right now, then well ill be pretty fuckin pissed.

[darth massacre]

Personally I believe Lorez meant the teachers are outdated in their approach to teaching and the information they are teaching. He/she had never said the teachers don't teach.

I don't doubt Lorez's opinion one bit. Everyone will have a different opinion based on their personal preference and expectation. However I do agree to an extent that certain aspects of my program seems rather lagging behind the times. Although there should be enough exciting changes coming in the next school year, with a few new hybrid studios being built for Illustration.

I think I would like to add....don't expect to "get" anything just by graduating from a branded school. Looks good on paper, but in the end its still up to the individual to make contacts, work on their portfolio and figure out how to position themself in the market to get the jobs you want.



On a lighter note. I moved into my new room!! Whoooo!! Couldn't really figure out how I stuffed all my furniture into the smaller room but I did!. And I finally framed and put up both the DSillustration prints I bought at Art Out Loud 2006.

[alxcote]

Hay guys! What's goin on in this thread?? :cool:

by the way, if any of you ever wonder how i look like..

(darth and jack can back me up, this is really me)

http://i2.cashmoneyuploads.com/img/fakeme24fc.jpg (http://www.cashmoneyuploads.com/)

edit: anyone going for the cgtalk contest thing?

[darth massacre]

Please note that the cigarette is only a prop. :teeth:

[amarryth]

i dunno if i agree with that, i mean for animation atleast there are things that MOST students that go into the program have NEVER done, and have no clue as to how to do it and if the instructor is just gonna instruct u to learn urself without TEACHING u then what is the point of that, people go to school to learn and u cant learn without being taught.

and honestly if im sitting there next year @ seneca and am being taught NOTHING at all and spending a good deal of money only to end up doing what i do right now, then well ill be pretty fuckin pissed.

sooo... are you coming straight out of high school? if you are.. experience post secondary education before you bash a guidance-based learning experience. if someone shows you how to draw, they're going to show you how they draw.. you need to develop your own way of doing things.. that's what art is about... if i got marked on how much my painting looked like how my painting teacher did it.. kill me now.. honestly-

anyway, i'm not trying to be a bitch or anything.. but comment when you have a bit of experience.. and if you already have some.. i feel bad that your art college experience was so poor

[Kdeezy]

sooo... are you coming straight out of high school? if you are.. experience post secondary education before you bash a guidance-based learning experience. if someone shows you how to draw, they're going to show you how they draw.. you need to develop your own way of doing things.. that's what art is about... if i got marked on how much my painting looked like how my painting teacher did it.. kill me now.. honestly-

anyway, i'm not trying to be a bitch or anything.. but comment when you have a bit of experience.. and if you already have some.. i feel bad that your art college experience was so poor




I dont see how i bashed ur learning experience, but ok. But lets begin.

I never suggested that what i or any student learns should be exactly like the teachers, when i see art that i like, it is art that u can tell has alot of the artists own personal style in it. What i said was simple, i am going to art school to learn, which entails being taught something i didnt already know.

From ur first post what i gathered was that basically the teachers tell u to do something and let u do it, without any of their input, well shit if thats the case then i can do that @ home sitting on my ass and saving money. And like i said before to learn something u need to have i guess something or someone teaching you.


I can sit here and draw something a thousand times before i notice what im doing wrong and then ive learned something but im going to art school so i can have that teacher point something out so i can do just that (that being learn) but a lot quicker. It helps to have the objective eye of someone that knows what they are doing and looking out for you.

And this isnt about experience, it is about opinion, that is my opinion as to how i think and would like my experience to be like, last i checked i can have an opinion about things in the great white north.


just my 2 cents, no need to get defensive. and yes i am coming straight outta highschool.

[Sanby]

I think Kdeezy put it rather well. And, I didnt see any bahing going on, no need to get your back up.

Sanby

[SirGreenSock]

Kdeezy, well if you already have the sense of self direction, commitment and the ability to learn all on your own then you obviously dont need postsecondary education to do what you need. Save your money and do as you said, stay at home and work, break into the industry and you're set.

I suspect you can get as much out of sheridan or seneca or whereverer as you put in to it. You cant expect the teachers to just hold your hand the whole way through, if you're really dedicated to keep improving and learning, make use of the environment, both the students and teachers, to pull as much as you can from them. Even if the teachers experience isnt directly relevant to your ideas, they are all still industry veterans, and if you approach them the right way will help you find your way, at least by pointing you in the correct direction so you can reach there on your own.
College education, and a diploma from whatever program, no matter how prestigious means absolutely nothing in the industry, as Dan Milligan put it, no one ever asked for his diploma. It is about using the environment to learn as much as possible to create a strong portfolio and make the right connections. If you don't find this environment nurturing and dont know how to take advantage of it, college is not the right place for you.

[kennygeeze]

In all honesty I found my teachers in fundies really stand-offish when it came to helping students sometimes... to the point when they would only allow class critiques to be the sole 'official' input the project got... and usually it's just them standing there letting the students figure stuff out during the discussions themselves. Much like my last year of highschool art there *seems* to be total artistic freedom in the air, but often the faculty wanted something very specific, painted a very specific way.... only you wouldn't find it out till you got your grade back.

For some reason I think people treat art school quite different from other post-secondary. In other more objective courses you learn precicely what the course material has to offer and through how the teacher explains it. Self-developement and application takes place afterward -- that's your job. If business profs gave as little input as some art teachers I've met then they'd no doubt be fired.

I'm not paying the amount of tuition I do a year for some cleverly arranged assignments and a forced workload with 0 to none input on the side. I have a full expectation that if a teacher is walking around they will help me correct TECHNICAL things like how to hold the brush, how to mix the paint, how to get more reliable underdrawings, and help me fix my shoddy perspective. I doubt any of you disagree with that... but....

It's not a bad thing for a prof to sit behind you and give you tips on how they do it... it's not like you'll become a clone of them or something. You'll often only be seeing them for one or two semesters... and if they ever teach you again then it'll probably be another subject. Because your experience is unique, your style will likely be as well.

I hate to say this, but I improve the most when I use the tutors at sheridan. Employ kids who are 2-3 years ahead of me who have already walked in my shoes and the problems I currently face no doubt fresh in their minds from when they battled them.. THey can sit over my shoulder and help me, and point out stuff as it happens... then they demo how they do it. It helps.

And after having 3 tutors over the last 3 years of artschool (never for any class I was in danger of failing... just wanted to learn faster) I don't feel my artistic voice is ruined or I draw like them at all.
When I meet teachers who don't want to come up behind me and talk to me about what I'm doing, I'm very offended... because it feels like I don't learn anything -- well anything more than if I'm alone in the room.

Besides, most of the things a teacher can really comment on are just technical issues anyways... the only teacher to ever criticize me for my "voice" was fired a year after I left the school... or she was forceably removed... something like that.

Hold the conte to the side, hold the paintbrush this way... it's not going to screw up your style... and when you're done school and a huge pro you can have a big brain bonfire... and burn all the knowledge they forced on you, in yet you never needed.
Some mistakes can be corrected so easily... in yet I meet so many profs who are basically just glorified baby sitters.... I'm exagerating, but I can sometimes see them watching when I'm doing something wrong -- almost as if they're stuck in the corner with their fingers crossed just *hoping* I'll be able to figure it out for myself.

Besides alot of profs who imply alot of artistic freedom and don't give very much input are often the ones who want something VERY specific (at least in my experience)... and you have to dance between C's and A's on every assignment to figure out what you should be doing.

[Kdeezy]

Kdeezy, well if you already have the sense of self direction, commitment and the ability to learn all on your own then you obviously dont need postsecondary education to do what you need. Save your money and do as you said, stay at home and work, break into the industry and you're set.

I suspect you can get as much out of sheridan or seneca or whereverer as you put in to it. You cant expect the teachers to just hold your hand the whole way through, if you're really dedicated to keep improving and learning, make use of the environment, both the students and teachers, to pull as much as you can from them. Even if the teachers experience isnt directly relevant to your ideas, they are all still industry veterans, and if you approach them the right way will help you find your way, at least by pointing you in the correct direction so you can reach there on your own.
College education, and a diploma from whatever program, no matter how prestigious means absolutely nothing in the industry, as Dan Milligan put it, no one ever asked for his diploma. It is about using the environment to learn as much as possible to create a strong portfolio and make the right connections. If you don't find this environment nurturing and dont know how to take advantage of it, college is not the right place for you.


Again my point was never to have my hand held throughout college, what i have been saying is simple, in my OPINION, the teachers teach, and u learn, u cannot learn if the teacher does absolutely nothing. I dont want my instructors to be lookin over my shoulder and dictating what i am doing but rather i think they should be there to lead me in the right direction if i stray i want to have my own style my own direction but i think that like i said before constructive critism would help a person out far more than that instructor sitting there on their ass collecting his cheque @ the end of the day and the student coming out in the end with not nearly what he / she expected.

I mean these people are there TO TEACH us, that is there job no? So if they just sit on their ass and let the student take the projects on with no guidence then whats the point?

To clarify i dont want my hand to be held, i also dont want to be doing the exact same crap as my instructors, but I DO want to learn things i didnt know techniques etc. I dont know where the correlation is between being taught and having my hand held. They are not one and the same.



EDIT!!!!!!!


Kenny i couldnt agree with u more, u summed up what i have been trying to say and couldnt manage to put into proper sentences these past two posts. THANK YOU!

[darth massacre]

Wow, this is getting old really quick.




Check your results guys....its been out since yesterday. Fuck! I got a B.

[kennygeeze]

Check your results guys....its been out since yesterday. Fuck! I got a B.


I can't believe it took them that long to get the marks working.
For future reference (I should of told you this when we went to swiss chalet), but you can see your grades right away (usually the monday or tuesday after school ends) through your DAILY schedule on access sheridan. :P
Something I found out be accident :P

Have a good summer, man! and good luck at those potential jobs you told me about!

Edit: Kdeezy, no problem man.... your writing is coherant too, no worries :P

[SirGreenSock]

Good points kenny and kdeezy (sorry for misunderstanding part of your post), guess we should all keep our fingers crossed on getting a good prof.
The high school I go to is an art school, with a supposed intensive art program. Unfortunately, the curriculum is almost completely focused on modern and post-modern art (interesting stuff, but not what Im looking for). At the same time, my teachers are artists themselves, and pretty good ones, too, and many of my classmates have similar goals and interests as me. I learned much more from the environment, talking and working with my classmates, commenting on each other, and approaching the teachers directly one-on-one for advice on my technique and work. Learned nothing I would ever use in the class itself, but the environment brought together like-minded people and resources that can prove useful if exploited properly. I think Sheridan, and most other large non-atelier art schools would be similar; It is largely dependant on getting a good learning environment with the right people, and taking everything you can from it.
If afterward I am still looking for direct, intensive training, I'll take on an aprenticeship or go to an Atelier (toronto realist school is a good choice), which are more like a workshop environment.

[Taj]

Im gonna start a post and update it with sheridan grads for everyone else.

http://www.crackedhat.com
http://www.colinmayne.com

[SirGreenSock]

Great idea Taj, thanks.
Two links i see so far were cool, first one especially has a nice painting style. I was actually very surprised at how obvious it was that both of em used extensive photo ref for their paintings. Wonder if sheridan encourages that over life work.

[alxcote]

You all should worry about spending enough time on your own art then argue over your beliefs. Enough of that imo.

What are you all up to over this summer? We should have some kind of a contest/coop at some point! no?

just my 6 cents worth.

[darth massacre]

What are you all up to over this summer? We should have some kind of a contest/coop at some point! no?
Only if it involves guns.

[amarryth]

hey guys... sorry about the big rant there.. i was having a VERY off day and am terrible at explaining things... but for those who haven't been there.. sheridan offers a great learning environment, both instructors and students..

kdeezy, i apologize... give sheridan a chance.. i think you'll like it there... :)

edit: shit, sorry.. taj just informed me you're going to seneca... i've heard it's comparable... good luck!

[Moiss]

edit: anyone going for the cgtalk contest thing?


I am not convinced enough to myself now......maybe someday.
I saw your entry.......g'luck for u, man and have fun doing it.

Anyway, gee Alex, you really have gained some weights there.....LOL

You all should worry about spending enough time on your own art then argue over your beliefs. Enough of that imo.

What are you all up to over this summer? We should have some kind of a contest/coop at some point! no?

just my 6 cents worth.

I agree.... maybe start with a theme.....

[5frames]

This has probably been mentioned somewhere in this massive thread but:


I'm itching to do some lifedrawing like CRAZY. I know the Toronto School of Art offers sessions from thurs-sunday so I'll probably do that. I was just wondering if anyone knew of anywhere else that offered open lifedrawing over the summer?

I hear OCAD has something going on too but I cant find any info on it on their website.

Thx

[Sanby]

Has anyone else applied for residence, this year or in the past? The draw was on the 11th I believe, but when do we find out about, or how do we find out the results?

Sanby

[amarryth]

hey kids... wow where is everyone?? either finishing up high school or fully indulged in summer work....

what's everyone been up to and what are you guys doing with your summers?

me? working in a factory 9 hours a day.. shifts suck. outside of work i have alot of driving to do to get to and from work.. then i sleep or lose sleep playing random ds games and regret it in the morning... once in a while i even work on my course that i need to have done by the beginning of august.. oy~

[SirGreenSock]

Still got a month of school, final projects and exams goin on. :\

Also getting psyched for Montreal and the Last Man Standing TD.

[Taj]

Ugh 3 Summatives and 3 exams. Life will be great for a short while after this is over.

[Amazing Action Ape]

Hey guys, im trying to get rid of a ton of my stuff, just wondering if anyone would be interested in purchasing artbooks off me? Here is what i have below.
Its a little hard to see, but im too lazy to type it out right now! :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/BPoirier/P1002836.jpg

Also if anyone is interested in a nintendo DS with mario kart, or 3 comic boxes full of comics, send me a message.

[darth massacre]

You might want to keep that Animator's Survival Kit for next year.

And how much are you looking to get for your Halflife2 artbook? Gimme a PM. I can't guarantee I'd buy it though coz all my money is pretty much going towards a new PC rig and maybe a brand new Intuos3 at the end of summer.

[SirGreenSock]

Cool collection, I'd probably be interested in some of em, if I could read half the names.
Of the ones that are legible, the frazetta and facial expressions ones caught my eye.

But why would you wanna get rid of those? :O

[Amazing Action Ape]

yeah its hard to read because of photobucket resize.

My main reason for getting rid of my assortment of artbooks, comics, action figures, and video games, is that I bought most of them with visa/line of credit, and I've put myself in a situation where im in over my head debtwise.

Also, Id rather be able to move around more freely, having to pack and repack such a huge collection gets to be really really tiring, not to mention highly annoying.

[thomasaurus]

How much are looking for on the DC Mythology and Art of Star Wars Ep3 book, and what Vertigo books (on the right corner) are those?

[Taj]

...what Vertigo books (on the right corner) are those?100 Bullets

better picture?
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[Amazing Action Ape]

Basically what im looking for is 15 - 20 dollars off base price, since they are used, although all are pretty much mint condition. So its usually around 30 - 35 dollars for each, some cheaper, some slightly more expensive than that. Yes those are 100 bullets trades 3 - 9. Thanks Taj.

[darth massacre]

Hey Ape! Check your PM.

OH HEY!! You also have MGS2 artbook!!! Good thing I already have a copy of that!! :teeth: Those Star Wars books and Frazetta's ICON are also pretty spiffy stuff. Hey you know your shit! :P Grab them before he changes his mind folks.


I seriously feel you should at least keep your Animator's Survival Kit. Its gonna be a great reference to fall back on when you're in animation from next semester.

[SirGreenSock]

Oh sweet mgs2, I'll mudwrestle you bastards for that one!

Man I wish I had cash on me right now, saving everything for Montreal atm. I'll buy what remains (if anything) after that :P

PS - like the sp avatar.

[Amazing Action Ape]

Yeah, ive got a lot of wicked books! :) Ive already gotten my use out of them, so I wont be changing my mind! :P I probably will keep the animators book, and either spectrum 12 or the skydoll GN or both. but the rest must go!

Greensock, awesome man, take a grip of pictures in montreal, man i wish i could go! :S and thanks :)

[Allegro]

Greetings

i went to Sheridan right from high school and i got in to residence.
i went when i was 18 and my portfolio rated in the top 10%.
i averaged a 3.8 GPA. i have been working full time in the industry for several year since i graduated.

my portfolio was just as they asked to the letter . i followed it and did all new material. i took two weeks off high school ( almost got expelled for skipping) to do all new work. and i got in.

to be honest the experience was VERY disappointing. alot of the instructors ( there are exceptions) have not worked in the industry in years. they are out of touch with their skills and the trade. my money would of been better spent at home sketching drawing and practicing every day. being a Sheridan grad has never opened any doors for me in the industry. ask yourself why you might even go and what you think it may do for you.what are your expectations?

I hope this was not discouraging as it was not meant to be. just recounting my experiences. just follow the portfolio requirements very carefully. do all new work if you have time. this represents your most current skills. if they ask to see work outside of the guidelines. only include your best work.seems simple but often overlooked. if your best stuff is only 2 things, then don't add more. don't forget they seen thousands of these portfolios. don't send sci-fi or this type of thing as they TONNES of and get sick of it. dont piss them off whith crap or stuff they have seen a million times. don't forget lots of figure drawing.

good luck




sounds about right

[SirGreenSock]

Greensock, awesome man, take a grip of pictures in montreal, man i wish i could go! and thanks

hehe, will do, bringing my laptop along too, so space on the camera shouldnt be an issue. :D

I'll get back to you post-montreal if books are still available (and I have any cash)!
Woo, 2 weeks of school left, Montreal, graduation, summer then Im seeing you all at Sheridan! :teeth: Thinking too far ahead: we gonna have a summer meetup?

[Sanby]

I'm trying to apply for OSAP but one of the questions is how much of a full course load are you taking. How do I figure that out? Don't I have to pick my electives sometime or something? Seeing as I haven't a freakin clue and have never done this before, could someone lend me a hand.

O, btw what is the HL2 book like? Is it any good?

Sanby

[Leeway]

Hey guys, just thought I'd chime in and say that I got offered a spot for animation in the fall. I can't wait for the fall now, and I look forward to meeting some of you then as well.

[amarryth]

I'm trying to apply for OSAP but one of the questions is how much of a full course load are you taking. How do I figure that out? Don't I have to pick my electives sometime or something? Seeing as I haven't a freakin clue and have never done this before, could someone lend me a hand.

O, btw what is the HL2 book like? Is it any good?

Sanby

you will be doing a full course load, six courses per semester. it's considered full time, 18 hours a week of class....

i hope that helped..

oh, and congrats, leeway! see you in september!


has anyone found any definite housing yet? i might have found a house with 5 bedrooms.. ugh, the hunt for living space sucks...

[SirGreenSock]

Im still looking around, nothing definite yet. Gotta make a conscious decision within 2 weeks though.
I'd prefer a townhouse not living with a landlord, but at the moment my top choice is the apartment building darth massacre showed us (thanks again for that bud).
Aside from that site on Sheridan (placesforstudents.com or something) how else are you guys looking for arrangments in Oakville?

[sketchi]

I got in!!!!!

oh right, now I need a room! arg, haven't been keeping up-to-date. anyone in animation want a roomie?
eeeeek I'm horrrrribly happy now. *____*

[amarryth]

Im still looking around, nothing definite yet. Gotta make a conscious decision within 2 weeks though.
I'd prefer a townhouse not living with a landlord, but at the moment my top choice is the apartment building darth massacre showed us (thanks again for that bud).
Aside from that site on Sheridan (placesforstudents.com or something) how else are you guys looking for arrangments in Oakville?

that site is how i'm finding most stuff... i really don't know how else to look.. i wish all of the people on that site were willing to communicate with email, i really don't want to call someone... but they have a 5 bedroom available for $450 each/month and it's RIGHT across the street from the school... sounds goooood to me :P

so i guess people that were on the wait list are finding out if they got in now eh?? sweeeeet.

[sketchi]

I wasn't on the waiting list. I asked for a re-evaluation because they skipped over one of my pictures. x(

thanks a lot for the listing! wow, this is very helpful! :D

[SirGreenSock]

Congrats sketchi, see ya next year! Now start posting work around here!

[alxcote]

Oh by the way, my roomate (the only one..as we lived in a house where a family lives,but theyre very quiet) left and wont comeback next year, i think hes moving out with his girlfriend or something alike. Anyway, i believe there's an opened spot right now (not sure as it's already been like a month since he left so it might of been taken already).. in any case it's 400$ per month and it's 30 second walk from school. (you can see the school when you cross the front door) It includes internet/own fridge and that kind of stuff.

I pay 500 per month but they cook meals for me during the week and dont have to pay for most things like milk+bread+eggs whatever.. So i don't know if they would be willing to offer the same deal for an extra person but anyway it might work out.

If you're interested just PM me and i'll give you the # / adress what not.

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on another note, i sent in my entry for the cgtalk challenge and redesigned my website layout. finaly got these 2 done and cleared out.. can do other things yay.

sup everyone?

[Sanby]

you will be doing a full course load, six courses per semester. it's considered full time, 18 hours a week of class....

i hope that helped..

oh, and congrats, leeway! see you in september!


has anyone found any definite housing yet? i might have found a house with 5 bedrooms.. ugh, the hunt for living space sucks...

Yup that helps, thanks. Aren't there certain courses I have to pick that are outside of my main art course? When do I pick those?

Congrats Leeway.

I'm looking for a place now as well. I am number 313 on the res waitlist or something so I figure I'll not be living in res.

Sanby

[Moiss]

Dang........... Alex, you should post your entry here.... :D I like it a lot....it's very fantastic....

[darth massacre]

Moiss, shut up and go give Alex's landlord a call! LOL I still think its one of the better deals out there in terms of housing.

@ Sock = No problem, good luck to you guys regarding housing. You should confirm a date early and get back to all the possible places - it will be harder when it gets closer to september.

@ Alex - Dude, the 8 page comic!!! (what the hell am I talking about, I'm not even done myself!)

@ Amazing Action Ape - if you're reading this thread, I'll get back to you via PM asap.

[alxcote]

i think they already got someone who booked the room, sorry people. i'll post again if anything changes.


and i just bought a new sketchbook, ill fill it up with some insanity very soon and update my sketches theyre older then darth himself (lawl, just kidding i love you man).

man i had the most f**kedup weekend ever in my life... and thats means something.


edit: thanks Moiss.

[Atazure]

Hay guys, long time no hear. Happy to hear that everyone's in and prepearing for the school year :]

Also, are any of you having problems with entering the accessSheridan account? It tells me that it can't connect to the server or sth. Anyone knows where i can find the mail to the administrator so that i can ask him about this and stuff?


Edit: nvm it works :]

[AmiimA]

err. hi.
going into sheridan's illustration program next year.
.. I need to buy a computer this summer anyways, but i was wondering if there was anything in particular i should make sure it has?

[SirGreenSock]

Depends on what you wanna do with it. If you plan on creating art with PS and a tablet, make sure you have plenty of RAM to not be constricted by size.

Congrats on Sheridan acceptance, also welcome to the forums! Hope to see some art from you soon and at Sheridan in September!

[thomasaurus]

I did it, my appeal worked! I'm in Animation now....

[SirGreenSock]

Fuck yeah! Congrats NOR!

Gonna party twice as hard in Montreal now! Remind me to get you a beer or something!

[thomasaurus]

ahaha, thanks! I don't know how I'm supposed to feel right now, I've sorta gotten used to the idea of anifundies.. (shit I need more money now)

[Atazure]

Congrats nor :D

Wow, have you guys ever gotten a pervy prank call? '_'

[SirGreenSock]

Congrats nor :D

Wow, have you guys ever gotten a pervy prank call? '_'
Oh woops, I was sure i was calling Nor...

[Atazure]

Oh woops, I was sure i was calling Nor...

that explains a lot, thought i must say that your polish is quite remarkable :D

[amarryth]

err. hi.
going into sheridan's illustration program next year.
.. I need to buy a computer this summer anyways, but i was wondering if there was anything in particular i should make sure it has?

if you can, i would actually wait until at least after first year, not only does it give you time to save up some money, but you'll know what is necessary and what is just a waste of money.. plus, waiting until you absolutely need your own lets you get something better in the future... the school has a whole lab of g5's to satisfy your hunger (and to get your work done)... that's what i plan on using for school stuff until probably sometime throughout second year.. though having your own mac might be a good idea so you are more accustomed to how they work when you have to jump on one in class...

hope that helped, i'm going into first year as well.. yay!

[amarryth]

ahaha, thanks! I don't know how I'm supposed to feel right now, I've sorta gotten used to the idea of anifundies.. (shit I need more money now)

dude! it's awesome that you got in, but coming straight out of high school ( i'm assuming).. if you're gonna jump right into the ba program, be ready to spend a shit load of time working on school stuff.. i don't know how your work habits are.. but just give it a thought, although it would really suck to have to go through the application process again next year.. anyway, good news is great! i can't wait until september!!

[AmiimA]

SirGreenSock

Hmm. yeah. dont think i'd want to leave home without my little tablet. It is my friend......
But uh, thanks.

amarryth:
Well, I was honestly considering not getting a computer for next year.. but I don't think I could cope without it. Plus I know i can at least avoid the cost of a moniter....
..but yeah... it is another added expense to the already pricey next 4 years of my life....

erm. thanks anyways. *looking forward to this september...* :heart:

[thomasaurus]

dude! it's awesome that you got in, but coming straight out of high school ( i'm assuming).. if you're gonna jump right into the ba program, be ready to spend a shit load of time working on school stuff.. i don't know how your work habits are..

I've been out of highschool and working fulltime for more than a year now. Getting up before 8 every morning, so I dont think I'll have a problem going to class..and I'm actually itching to have homework, instead of lifting bags and boxes of clothing all day.

All this is exciting me something fierce.

[darth massacre]

Oh yeah guys, I just thought you guys should know. I did a the trade with Amazing Action Ape today, his books are in awesome condition (except without packaging but that's like asking for the moon at those prices). Just want to say they're good books for a good price - even though its used. If you're looking for those titles why not take it off his shelf? Its cheaper, almost brand new and you save money while helping him out :D

Thanks for the HL2 artbook dude. And don't play WoW too often LOL.

[SirGreenSock]

Thanks for the heads up darth! Ape, gonna try and get in touch with you soon post-montreal to discuss trade!

[Amazing Action Ape]

Hey Darth, I could always get saran wrap and a blowdryer and wala, instant packaging! Im slightly OCD about my artbooks :D Anyways Darth, hope you like it!
LOL, I actually cancelled my account this month, because it took up too much time! However, a friend lent me oblivion for PC, and well.. its been a bit of a battle to resist playing it 24/7. :D

Monsieur SirGreenSock - excellent! have fun at the workshop!

Also, Im looking to start a sheridan sketchgroup or something. Im having a bit of a hardtime staying motivated, would be cool to meet up with a few of you once a week or something to bounce ideas off of! If anyone is interested, lets talk about ideal times and locations here!

[darth massacre]

I'm around in Oakville and Saturdays are always good - Or any other day except Fridays and Sundays.

[amarryth]

yah saturdays! i'd be willing to trek out to oaktown for some sketching, as long as ape promises to actually draw from life and not doodle stuff that he can draw anywhere!!! :D but yeah, i work 9 hours monday - friday, rotating shifts.. so weekend please!

[arghmisfit]

ill be down for the sketch group when sepotember comes

[SirGreenSock]

Ditto with argh.

Takes me two hours to get to Oakville from North York, so unless something BIG goes down, dont think I'll be coming along until I live in Oakville.

[Leeway]

Yeah, I'm down with that idea in the fall. It takes me about an hour or so to get to school.

I don't know if any of you guys have experienced a "down time" lately with your drawings, but I find that I'm just not cranking it out like I should be as of late. Maybe it's because I was drawing almost non-stop during ani-fudies (school stuff and personal stuff amounted to a lot), and being out of school for the past month and a half has left me a bit drab. I just want to get back into that comfortable groove again.

It has me a little worried about animation in the fall, I don't want it to feel like an uphill climb, I want to maintain a reasonable stride.

[SirGreenSock]

Then go draw, you're in a slump, so you should go study something new, experiment and have fun with it, get the drive back for yourself.

[amarryth]

i wish i had the time to experiment.. though i have been doing some drawing at work, it's all been out of my head shit.. no time to do an actual study.. once i get my course done i'll be spending alot of free time drawing; hoping to do some great nature stuff when i'm up in algonquin later this summer... where's september???

[alxcote]

bah every year we make a sketchgroup and only a few show up :P