Sheridan Information Please! [Archive] - Page 4

TPhilipT

January 25th, 2005, 08:05 PM

HEROIC

January 25th, 2005, 11:29 PM

hello everyone im new here and i need help on my portfolio ...I went to Sheridan 2003-2004 and took fundies and now im trying to get in Illustration and i doubt im going to get in this year but probably the second time i apply ill have a better chance ...and ya im stressing out on the portfolio right now....do you guys know if Illustration takes students in January 2006? and how do you post your work here I dont know much about computers.....my friends letting me borrow his web cam i dont know if that will work?

do you guys have any tips for the Illustration portfolio like for one of the things you have to do is draw freehand sketch of like a historic building like a town hall or a church?? how much time do you think i should spend on this and all the other 13 things i have to draw...... thanks guys

hey man,, welcome to the forum. I want to apply for the SHeridan too, i really dont know that much, but if u wait, there are so many great people here that will asnwer u.

About posting:
If u want to make a Sketchbook, go to the forumes for Sketchbooks (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=41), then, u got to make a Thread, and if u want to post your Sketches, u;ve got to first get a photobucket (http://www.photobucket.com) Account(its the easiest), then upload your pictures. ANd then copy the [IMG] of the pic, and paste it in the thread,. That was it. Or if u've already uploaded some in any other site u can insert by wrapping the location of the site in a IMG format.

HAHA,, that was what i know, u want more help, u can ask others,, or even can ask me again! i'll be happy to help

darth massacre

January 26th, 2005, 02:43 AM

Phillip, I got your email today.

I'll just reply here so everyone can see it.

As far as I know there are no January intakes for Sheridan's Animation or Illustration program. They cannot accomodate 2 courses running at the same time coz we really take up too much resources!!

You should already have some older works you're happy with that you want to use for the portfolio submission. So there's no need to come up with new works. Make sure you have a good album of your bigger works if you wish to submit them......its not easy to transport huge sculpture pieces to the portfolio interview and its hard to set things up in the small room.

Your sketchbook is REALLY IMPORTANT.....it should contain your ideas and sketches....maybe even some thoughts....but it shouldn't be a diary :D They would love to see more anatomical studies and perspective studies. So drawing figure and landscape or architectural stuff would be things to work on. For drawing from observation...sometimes its easier if you make a small frame that you can hold up in front of you....so you have an idea how to compose your pictures before you start drawing.

Digital works need to be printed (mentioned before). I don't think they accept showreels for illustration....just a folder will do. I'm not so sure you should include original artwork.....a photo replica may do just as well but its really up to you....if you feel relicated artwork can't convey the message across (some artists are anal about such things) then just submit the originals.

I think above all they don't want to see what messages your art conveys....more on whether you already have a good grasp of drawing....ie, whether you're at a certain level where you can handle the syllabus you're going to recieve in Illustration, coz its pretty technical....we learn methods, ways of percieving and so on. The Illustration program so far is very specialized in terms of the knowledge passed on....and it can get very boring.

Animation is much more different. If you want to get techincal about animation, you'd spend 20 years in the school. So they cover a lot more ground at lightspeed to give a grasp of the process of making an animation. I think Alex can give you more information on that area. Even the portfolio requirement is different.

Anyway just don't panic. You have another 3 weeks or so to gather your stuff, that's plenty of time.

Qian Wang

January 26th, 2005, 03:43 AM

Hello , everybody! Long time no see,...I really almost gotta crazy by my portfolios....maybe I am too nervous about it .... >:{ I always felt them not good enough....and now I got one storyboard left..but I don't like my former stuff :dead:

To Heroic:
I have went to your sketchbook tread...it's weird that I can't see your pics in it??? but anyway, I can see that you are progressing! So keep going , man!! ;)

HEROIC

January 26th, 2005, 07:48 AM

To Heroic:
I have went to your sketchbook tread...it's weird that I can't see your pics in it??? but anyway, I can see that you are progressing! So keep going , man!! ;)

OMG,, why not,, but some friend just checked it out last night and post me a reply. There was no problem. I checked my Photobucket account too, i still have so much space left. Maybe there was sth wrong with your pc that time, Just MAYBE. PLz check it out again.
Man, im getting mad at ya. Why arent u making a Sketchbook. come on. :confident

To all SHeridan students, and others. Plz check out my sketch book and C&C plz. Its a little bit soon cause i just started , i know, but at least say sth, or give me a hint, or tell me if there is anything wrong. THX all. :^^;:

Qian Wang

January 26th, 2005, 08:23 AM

:[ I guess it's because of my stupid pc. well, I think I will send out my portfolios in 2 weeks and then put my portfolios up here. I need to get a scanner or pc camera...(awe...drunk too much coffee!!!)

TPhilipT

January 26th, 2005, 11:51 AM

Hexal

January 26th, 2005, 07:00 PM

Thanks for the info heroic about the sketchbook, Sheridan was amazing school and it was great... youll be set by the time you go there, i like the anatomy sketches I gotta start doing tons of those .............and for the Illustration portfolio i know this guy from animation that said to hand in original drawings .......do you know what kind of paper i should use ...like should i just cut out the paper in my sketch book ?????? and is 11 by 14 sketch paper good size for all of the drawings?????

For the Drawing test you have to use 8.5 x 11. Other then that, whatever you feel comfortable with, but dont make it too big.

And please dont use a web cam to post pics they get really bad pictures. Get a scanner, or borrow one, thats would be best when you want to show people your work.

TPhilipT

January 27th, 2005, 10:20 AM

aico003

January 27th, 2005, 08:21 PM

Alright alright alright.. must get started on some good copys of these. I have studies in the my sketchbook for most of them, and they're pretty much all planned out but I still haven't even started any of the good copys :nohope:. I gotta get a mirror this weekend, I think I'm gonna do the self portrait first since I did tons of portraits just a little while ago and I was getting pretty good towards the end.
Maybe I should try to phrase my question from the last post a bit better.. what mediums do you guys in illustration usually use? Do you stick mostly to pen and pencil? Do you use a lot of charcoal? I seem to remember people talking about guache (eww) at some point in this thread, have you guys been using that much?
I really want to get some variety in the mediums I use, but I don't wanna miss anything that you guys use a lot or use something that I'm not especially strong with if you never use it. Please help is thankedful! yes yes!

Hexal

January 28th, 2005, 05:03 PM

Is the cheapest scanner good enough to show work?? For the portfolio I'm working on the choose 1 item of clothing, shoes, gloves, etc and arrange them in a still life with use of other props or environment that helps tell a story about the clothing you selected.....any tips on that and how to they want it drawn.....like do they want a perfect outline of a shoe as best you can or what.........

I think there are looking for a good line weight im most things, i remeber that from the illustration info session, its always to the best of your ability so just take your time and get something you like and you feel happy about.

Alright alright alright.. must get started on some good copys of these. I have studies in the my sketchbook for most of them, and they're pretty much all planned out but I still haven't even started any of the good copys . I gotta get a mirror this weekend, I think I'm gonna do the self portrait first since I did tons of portraits just a little while ago and I was getting pretty good towards the end.
Maybe I should try to phrase my question from the last post a bit better.. what mediums do you guys in illustration usually use? Do you stick mostly to pen and pencil? Do you use a lot of charcoal? I seem to remember people talking about guache (eww) at some point in this thread, have you guys been using that much?
I really want to get some variety in the mediums I use, but I don't wanna miss anything that you guys use a lot or use something that I'm not especially strong with if you never use it. Please help is thankedful! yes yes!

I think for illustration this alot of Conte and nupastel for life drawing and such, and gouche for bigger projects, and pencil for drawings, thumbs, roughs, what not. Im not in illustrtaion, but from what ive seen and what im using in fundies that seems to be it. But im sure someone from illustration can help you more :S

darth massacre

January 28th, 2005, 08:57 PM

aico003

January 29th, 2005, 01:11 PM

Awesome news, I've always hated guache... well actually I only used it once, but I didn't like it very much :dur:. Watercolour, on the other hand I was using quite a bit a little while ago, and I was starting to like that stuff. Alright, I guess I'm really running out of excuses to not get started on the final copies.. guess I'll go out to get a mirror so I can do that self-portrait. Thanks for the help Darth and everyone else too.. good luck everyone.

HEROIC

January 29th, 2005, 01:40 PM

Animation uses Gouache. Brighter colors are useful for animation.

Illustration uses Watercolors and Acryllics. We use acryllics like oil...thick.

Phillip: Draw it the way YOU want. Measure your proportions accurately before you start.

Blahh,,, i hate Watercolors and Acryllics. I dunno why, but i dont like working with them, i didnt try it, and dont want to try it again.

darth massacre- thx for the information man, its been long time, u didnt check my sketchbook :^^:

oh,,, Fresh News:

I went to art Department of my school and talked to one of the teachers wheather i can get the grade 12 art course for next year or not. She saw all of my drawings, and said i cant decide now, cause u started recently ,, u've got to do some life drawings, and some watercolour. And i was like,,, AWWWW man,, why water colour, i really dont know for Art 12(life drawing), i dont need any watercolour , do i?

So, im feeling better now, cause i now what i have to do.

aico003- can u post some of your drawings.? :bashful:

Phillip- dude, did u get the scanner or not? :dur:

Softdrawer, WHERE ARE U MAN? i need help!!!!!! :S

TPhilipT

January 29th, 2005, 04:09 PM

I found out my friend has a scanner so I dont need to buy one soon........and for the portfolio, one of the guys in Animation said to send your original drawings not photocopy.....I dont know which to do wouldnt it be better sending your original drawing??

Qian Wang

January 29th, 2005, 10:08 PM

/m\
It's Too weird that I have installed the driver program for my scanner, but it still can't work!!!Damn >:{

well, Long time no see , guys. Best wishes!! ;)
(will be back)

darth massacre

January 29th, 2005, 10:37 PM

Phillip: If you can get good photocopy services, then you may want to try getting them made to send. I sent copies and it cost me about US$0.25 per piece of A4 (slightly bigger than 8X11). If you're coming for the portfolio review in person, then don't send copies, bring originals. Just make sure its not huge pieces, or if its a sculpture, bring an album of photographs that illustrate the form of your artpiece (still counts as one).

The idea is, if you can't find a copy service that makes copies as good as the original, then you shouldn't bring/send copies.

Qian Wang: Sorry to hear man.....I suggest a reformat :rendered:

Moiss

January 29th, 2005, 10:56 PM

Anyone get caught up at the booksale.........?

I'll be trapped on monday..... >:D

softdrawer

January 30th, 2005, 02:30 AM

Hey all..

I fuken finaly updated my website.. im so lazy. Nothing all that new on it, xcept for one digital painting, that i just posted on the "finaly finished" section here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37800).

Anyhow.. im still trying to catch up with evrything lost/late.. ill get back to evrybody when im feeling loosed up again.

ciao

alx

Qian Wang

January 30th, 2005, 06:59 AM

I don't feel happy today.cuz there is something wrong with my scanner, so I went out to scan my portfolios. :tihi: That Bitch!!!! She took 170 for the payment!!!! I was silly 2, why I made that stupid deal!!! What I remembered is that my brain was full of shit just thinking " send portfolios,...send portfolios..." losing my "talent" AWE! What a cramy day!Q! :perv:

Revenants

January 30th, 2005, 01:58 PM

Hey, I think I should go for the campus tour since it's exam week here and I have a few days off. Can you guys tell me which campus I should visit? I see 3 campus and I have no clue where I would go if I'd take illustration.

tweak_hp

January 30th, 2005, 02:06 PM

that would be the Trafalgar campus...i think i'll take a tour there soon too...have fun.

aico003

January 30th, 2005, 04:54 PM

aico003- can u post some of your drawings.? :bashful:

Yeah, I'm gonna start a sketchbook thread soon to post my portfolio stuff. All I've got done so far (aside from some pages in my sketchbook) is the self portrait and its not so good as I would like it to be. I'll be sure to post here when I finally get around to it, maybe even later tonight if I can get some more stuff done.

In other news, I just got the application confirmation OCAS thingy yesterday.. I know its not really a big deal or anything but it was cool to get :^^:. I was planning to drive up to Canada during my vacation for the last week of february, the portfolio is due 25th or 26th and I'm turning 18 the 27th (so I wanna be in Quebec ;)). But thats on sunday so I either have to drive 6 hours, the day after driving 6 hours, drunk or miss a day of school and drive home hungover.. Alright, gotta draw more, gotta finish that portfolio.

TPhilipT

January 31st, 2005, 03:01 PM

I havent started on the portfolio yet, I'm working on my sketchbook becuase theres barely anything in it and my old one is gone somewhere...Im doing option B on the portfolio so I'm only submitting whats requested

darth massacre

January 31st, 2005, 05:15 PM

Guys, if you're coming over, try and get hold of the student's union or another office to have a student bring you guys around. If not you'd be walking around and not getting a lot of the information most of the time. :dur:

Revenants

January 31st, 2005, 07:49 PM

how do you get a student to bring you along? All I figured out from the website is the phone number to book a tour.

Hexal

January 31st, 2005, 09:47 PM

how do you get a student to bring you along? All I figured out from the website is the phone number to book a tour.

If you book im sure you can ask for a student to bring you along. ;)

HEROIC

January 31st, 2005, 10:09 PM

If you book im sure you can ask for a student to bring you along. ;)
i hope one of u guys will come and help me for Next year, lol :^^:

have fun, and good luck all

TPhilipT

February 1st, 2005, 10:38 AM

For the originals you submit for the portfolio do you just cut out the paper from sketchbook or do you buy separate paper?? Thanks

Hexal

February 1st, 2005, 04:53 PM

For the originals you submit for the portfolio do you just cut out the paper from sketchbook or do you buy separate paper?? Thanks

I would do it on nice paper, unless you think the paper you have is good enough, and dont leave the little ring things on it if you do pull it out.

"ChEsTeR"

February 1st, 2005, 06:18 PM

Anyone know when the portfolios are due????? I heard on the 19th.

Revenants

February 1st, 2005, 07:06 PM

you guys who are handing in portfolios... Wanna post the portfolio online? so people like me who are hoping to apply next year can get an idea?

TPhilipT

February 1st, 2005, 07:50 PM

thanks for the info.....and the portfolio's are due on the 25 and 26 if your delivering it to them in person and for mail in it's due on the 19......and the portfilio requirements are on the sheridan website

darth massacre

February 1st, 2005, 11:06 PM

Phillip: I think you gotta make some of those judgements for your own. They want to see both skillsets and individuality in presentation. There are no specific guidelines on how to present your portfolio unless stated (ie max size for mail in portfolio and so on). All I know when I submitted mine was the recommended size and I just chucked my work in and sent it.

softdrawer

February 2nd, 2005, 11:58 AM

I would do it on nice paper, unless you think the paper you have is good enough, and dont leave the little ring things on it if you do pull it out.

Back in the day i used paper from the printer..

Hexal

February 2nd, 2005, 01:04 PM

Back in the day i used paper from the printer..

yeah, its not bad paper, somethings like the drawing test say to use that paper i think.

Revenants

February 3rd, 2005, 05:49 PM

it's pretty bad as its rather smooth, so unless your a pen guy, the graphite smudges and its hard to erase. Anyone wanna fill me in on what exactly a technical illustrator do once he gets out of school? Is technical illustration similar to industerial design?

Qian Wang

February 3rd, 2005, 08:11 PM

I've sent out my package!!!! :S nervous

endregan

February 3rd, 2005, 08:17 PM

Good luck to everyone!!!!

Man this year has flew by so fast.........halfway through 2nd semester almost. I can tell ya if your doing things right you will always have something to do and then some :D.

darth massacre

February 6th, 2005, 01:47 AM

Revenants: Idustrial Design (ID) and techincal Illustration are different.

Illustration will never get as techical as ID. If I'm not wrong, ID is looking at practical solutions to daily items. So you'll be doing a lot more on design solutions that integrates with engineering. Tech Illustration has a lot more freedom in terms of creativity, and tech illustration also covers scientific illustration, ie, medical illustration....bones, muscles, animals and so on.

And don't start thinking of what you'll do after getting the degree.....honestly speaking what you learn in school is your skillset, it doesn't even start to indicate what you'll do later in life. Don't narrow your scope by thinking this is what you want to do and this is only what you want to learn. It should be the other way around....learn what you can, in school and outside of school....then all those skills and experience you've learned, you can then apply to whatever you choose to work as in the future.

I've seen engineers draw comics and doctors making video games. Their knowledge and method of thinking is only a tool that gives them an advantage over their peers.

Revenants

February 6th, 2005, 09:46 AM

Thanks! The dilemma I'm in was sort of similar to yours. I know what I love to do, and I try to do it. I grew up in asia and Canada, and in big cities only, thus my art always seems to be a combination of things man made, and humans it self. I clearly understand that drawing man made things and drawing "alla prima" or for that matter, inventing figures out of thin air, are two completely seperate skill set. One is fine arts, the other is industrial design. I wanted to get a mix and thought technical illustration was the solution, but it appears not. There is a third problem, that eases my descision in chocing between the two, which is the fact that I want to work in Japan for a few years. (I fell in love with the place when I went there). Unfortunately, being an illustrator in Japan, is rather hard since I am not fluent in the language. Thus (having visited the toyota headquarters on my last visit) I decided I'd try and shift my direction towards working there. If you can give me any advice or perhaps a diffrent route of doing this, please...

Moiss

February 11th, 2005, 01:50 PM

I just wanna say: "Good Luck for everyone who's applying for either animation or illustration" and all the best for those who are already in first year....keep rocking......!!! animation and illustration stuff are awesome...........:)

Qian Wang

February 11th, 2005, 10:17 PM

hi,guys.I have put a sketchbook tread. Welcome to see it. ;)

darth massacre

February 11th, 2005, 11:28 PM

Deadlines for mail in portfolio submission is next week isn't it?

Anyway good luck to you guys. In the meantime, don't stop drawing. (hee hee, I should take my own advice)

"ChEsTeR"

February 14th, 2005, 01:11 PM

Are only life drawings acceptable for the sketchbook that you have to submit with the illustration portfolio, (it sais "representing your personal interests that fall within the criteria") Im assuming drawings from your immagination are not acceptable.

Does the sketch book have to be a hard copy or are we just soposed to send some photocopied pictures?

darth massacre

February 15th, 2005, 04:13 PM

As long as there's no Anime in there, you're pretty much ok.

::EPIC::

February 15th, 2005, 08:13 PM

yup 25th and 26th are the dates to go by depending on your drop off slip (talking illustration) i think its the same as animation now

just kinda jumping in from long ago, haha

good luck everyone

softdrawer

February 16th, 2005, 10:35 PM

..so when do you get to know if your in or not folks?

Hexal

February 16th, 2005, 11:40 PM

..so when do you get to know if your in or not folks?
My one teacher said in march you find out. But im not sure if you can trust him lol

Qian Wang

February 17th, 2005, 04:33 AM

I am wondering about that 2. Waiting almost drives me crazy..

Moiss

February 17th, 2005, 08:56 PM

My one teacher said in march you find out. But im not sure if you can trust him lol

I believe that's so......they begin to issue your acceptance on March 31, it should be around that time, or maybe first week of April.......

you can check more detail here http://www1.sheridaninstitute.ca/acad/apply.html#Dates

so Good Luck for everyone applying........(crossed fingers) :)

softdrawer

February 18th, 2005, 01:23 AM

woaw...thats like in ages.. (seemed so much faster back in my day)

oh well, good luck everybody!!

darth massacre

February 18th, 2005, 03:52 AM

They don't need luck....they need SKILLZ!

HOLY SHIT...READING WEEK BREAK! 3/4 OF THE YEAR HAS GONE BY!

softdrawer

February 18th, 2005, 02:58 PM

They don't need luck....they need SKILLZ!

HOLY SHIT...READING WEEK BREAK! 3/4 OF THE YEAR HAS GONE BY!

that was quick

endregan

February 18th, 2005, 06:04 PM

yeah alex and jerry! think i might have said this before but the weeks seem like little segments, so it seems like a whole midterm is one huge story but since it is one story it feel so much shorter...... weird :o

The busy you are the less aware you are of time :D...its great I mean to pass by that many weeks not even realizing it. unexplainable feeling

Good luck again guys. Anyone have their portfolios online so we can take a peek ?

darth massacre

February 18th, 2005, 07:53 PM

Actually I do have a bead on time.....its just that I thought there was so much time in the beginning but now I'll have a problem towards the end of the semester coz I need to find and move into a new apartment closer to school, get finances settled so I can GO HOME FOR THE SUMMER, clear out my school projects (I don't think straight lines help much for my portfolio so I gotta trash em) and worst of all...FINISH THE PROJECTS FOR THE LAST TERM.

And apply for that study grant thing back home.....where's my portfolio when I need it?

Qian Wang

February 19th, 2005, 12:05 AM

hi,everyone..
I am reserching anatomy these days and now I found that there are many problems in my portfolio and which has been sent out. >:{

darth massacre

February 19th, 2005, 03:54 AM

Hehehe....lesson learned then....should've done your research before sending out the portfolio.

Now all you can do is wait coz all that can be done is done. So just relax and err....keep your fingers crossed.

endregan

February 19th, 2005, 10:24 AM

Yeah have good week off guys.

Thanks jerry for bringin troy, that was a good movie. have fun at the car show!!! hahah

Later

Moiss

February 20th, 2005, 02:34 AM

Shit!! why you didn't tell me you're going to the show, Darth...you cheat...:)

Sadly enough I have to refine some things for my portfolio.....It's due this friday............ :\

darth massacre

February 20th, 2005, 02:37 AM

Shit!! why you didn't tell me you're going to the show, Darth...you cheat...:)

I only remembered you were into cars when I was on my way back home :D

Anyway there's a lot to see....only that there are no race queens....(dammit)

Its on till the 27th....plenty of time over reading week to catch the show.

Qian Wang

February 20th, 2005, 08:41 PM

:D Hello,everyone.

I received the courise of the offer for Art Fundie this morning. It asked me to sign the letter of comfirmation and send it out in 3 week with the date Feb.16. I am wondering that , cuz I also applied BAA program which is still under consideration, so what if I comfirm the offer of Art Fundies and then here comes that of BAA program? May I have the chance to pick up one of them? looking forward to your replies, help me and thank you!! :)

darth massacre

February 21st, 2005, 01:20 AM

Send out the confirmation. Either way nothing is set in stone until you paid up the fees. Unless of course you prefer to wait for the admission letter from the other application.

endregan

February 25th, 2005, 01:50 PM

heyy!! only 7 weeks left of the term.....creepyyyyyyy

a year goes by too quickly :D

Hey I know on monday nights at the school there is a comic jam that goes on in one of the rooms. I might try to make it sometime for those of u who want to get out and draw, thought u should know. A guy jprovost from here goes to sheridan, hes 2nd year techy illustration started it up...

enjoy the last days of reading week.....
later!

aico003

February 25th, 2005, 05:49 PM

Wow, that portfolio damn near killed me... not really, though I wish I had started a lot earlier. Well it's finally done and that's always nice. Really sorry I never posted anything for the guy who asked awhile ago >:|. Bah, now that that mess is done with I can get to learning photoshop (finally got a wacom, took me like 2 hours to get it to work :nohope: ) and doing all those drawings that I promised to people months ago. Oh yeah, and pretending that I don't have tons of school stuff to do for next week, that's fun too.

Good luck to everyone else who applied, hopefully I'll see you all in about 6 or 7 months...

TPhilipT

February 26th, 2005, 01:49 PM

i just dropped off my portfolio and the line up was huge.....that portfolio killed me too

darth massacre

February 26th, 2005, 03:08 PM

Naw, if you think the portfolio killed you, wait till you get into the program :teeth:

Its all good.

endregan

February 26th, 2005, 03:10 PM

Naw, if you think the portfolio killed you, wait till you get into the program :teeth:

Its all good.

Haha WORDDDDD

Indie-Pendent

February 27th, 2005, 02:53 PM

aico003

February 27th, 2005, 03:50 PM

Haha, well hopefully if I get accepted I won't be in high school with all this other stuff to do at the same time. Seriously though, I really learned not to leave the stuff off like this, I really should've started around christmas.. It seems like that only applies to art at this point though since I've got a ton of work do next week and I haven't really started any of it. Back to drawing!

Hexal

February 27th, 2005, 07:27 PM

Ok, so I’m a grade 11 high school student and I just started getting into art in a BIG way. If I attend Sheridan will this put me at a disadvantage considering others probably have more experience then myself. Also are there any other requirements rather than English 12? I find that hard to believe. There must be a certain GPA requirement. Or standard high school courses that I need to take if some one could get back to that would be much appreciated :D

Disadvantage? im not sure what you mean by that, But for both fundies and any of the baa's you need an grade 12 art and grade 12 english. Then there are other requirments needed for the baa's like so many c or u courses. Check the website or book and youll see all that you need.

Indie-Pendent

February 27th, 2005, 09:02 PM

Thanks for the input. :wink: When I say disadvantage I mean I haven’t taken any art classes. Wont people who are entering Sheridan have more experience then me? I mean they will have been drawing longer then myself, and have had more teaching in the area. Also what are C and U? (i.e.) english c or english u

Hexal

February 27th, 2005, 09:22 PM

well i hope you have highschool art class' cause you cant get in there with out it. And yeah, the u and c thing like English U or english C, once again check the site or book to see what you need for any of the courses, i forget what they are.

aico003

February 27th, 2005, 09:37 PM

If you just keep drawing and drawing you'll probably be better than I am.. Just make sure to keep learning new things from wherever you can and do lots of realism stuff, nothing really stylized, that's what the school wants to see.

Indie-Pendent

February 28th, 2005, 12:13 AM

Thanks for the encouragement! :^^: Ok another question in grade 12 should I take 2D art or 3D art? What will be more beneficial for me in the long run?

Hexal

February 28th, 2005, 02:49 PM

Your school cuts it up into 2 differnent art class'? Is there no grade 12 art or whatever. And is 3d just like maya and max and all that jazz? cuase if so go with the 2d.

Indie-Pendent

March 1st, 2005, 01:08 AM

Thanks, uhh I’m getting so frustrated with my drawings >:| I just don’t see any progress iv been drawing things around me live in motion but I can’t seem to capture the realism in my drawings. What can I do too improve? I heard Anatomy is a good place to start. Should I try doing my drawings from it?

darth massacre

March 2nd, 2005, 01:49 AM

Anatomy study is to understand the human body. What you're doing are gesture drawings....same subject, different application, method and mentality.

You might want to concentrate on stick figures....capturing the head, spine and hips and try and get as close to the silhouette of the person as possible....its not possible to get the little details in such a short time. We do 15 second poses....even trying to get the proper proportions on the paper is a challenge let alone figuring out how many eyes the model has.

Gesture drawings are useful for studying the human figure in motion....how people move, wave their hands while talking, walk and so on....Animators are especially well trained in it considering all they do is draw millions of pages of characters in motion. :teeth:

darth massacre

March 3rd, 2005, 05:36 AM

Oh yeah guys....folks already in Sheridan....

The indoor Intramural Soccer league has started already....I believe most teams have played their first game, so if anyone of you are interested in coming to watch I'll be more than happy to send the schedules.

Illustration has 2 teams....one of them is ours of course.
- Thrillustration, we believe they are 3rd year students
- Long Shots....that's whom I play for.
So far I know of 1 team from animation....very strong team.
- Come Fiesta (no not the porn site). We play with them once a week since the beginning of the semester so we know they're really good.

Even the teaching staff are playing.

Indie-Pendent

March 4th, 2005, 12:56 AM

is Sheridan a good school to go to in preperation for a career in animation? Just wondering.

darth massacre

March 4th, 2005, 03:56 AM

is Sheridan a good school to go to in preperation for a career in animation? Just wondering.
I dunno actually, it has an intensive 4 yr applied arts degree program, a good reputation, a good connection with the major industry names, teachers with years of industry experience and over 20 years of experience in their school's syllabus.....nothing much to write home about.

Don't let us cloud your own judgement of what's good. :teeth:

softdrawer

March 7th, 2005, 03:09 PM

meh animation isnt that great, but thats all there is so.. just sticking around.
And i rather do that that any other program. :vodkamachine:

Moiss

March 14th, 2005, 06:20 PM

Feng's gonna be interviewed on G4techtv channel on March 15, 7pm ET about his latest works on Star Wars Episode III. Anyone have that channel... I wanna see it so bad....I'm a huge fan of his works......and the problem is I DON'T HAVE THAT CHANNEL.... :nohope:

Anyone know how to get that channel...?

thx

O, btw I'll be posting some of my new works very very soon, c&c are most important things I need.....thx, guys...

Wasabi

March 14th, 2005, 09:06 PM

Hi everyone,
I've been enjoying reading this thread!
I got accepted for fundies for September, and I am planning to attend it.
I have some questions for any of you who can help me...

(1) Is it too late to apply for the 4 yr illustration for Fall 2005?
(2) Do you know anyone employed in a graphic design job after completing fundies?

Thank you anyone who could help me with my questions.
Have a nice evening!

Hexal

March 14th, 2005, 10:52 PM

In Canada you need Digital cable or satellite to get that channel.(which i have :D)

And its too late to apply to illustraion now, the dead line for that was feb 4th, and i have no idea about fundies jobs, i assume if you have an amazing portfolio you could, but they why are would they be in fundies :x

Qian Wang

March 15th, 2005, 04:44 AM

[QUOTE=Moiss]Feng's gonna be interviewed on G4techtv channel on March 15, 7pm ET about his latest works on Star Wars Episode III. Anyone have that channel... I wanna see it so bad....I'm a huge fan of his works......and the problem is I DON'T HAVE THAT CHANNEL.... :nohope:

Anyone know how to get that channel...?

thx
QUOTE]
:frustrated: well, I am not in Canada...so there is no possibility for me to see it.... ah!!!!! ( You might feel better now)

HEROIC

March 15th, 2005, 06:56 AM

Heyyy,
Long time, havent check this thread.

Feng's gonna be interviewed on G4techtv channel on March 15, 7pm ET about his latest works on Star Wars Episode III.

Awesome, i should see this today. thx alot for telling.

Wasabi

March 15th, 2005, 05:54 PM

Hi Hexal, thanks for your response! I'm a career changer hoping to find employment in greeting card design/graphic design. The reason I chose art fundamental @ Sheridan is cuz the course outline says that the graduates of this certificate "can seek entry-level employment opportunities requiring fundamental artistic skills". I guess I have to hope it's true and work hard!

Thanks for you help! :teeth:

Moiss

March 16th, 2005, 04:02 PM

I wanna watch it...... :nohope: ...............:)

Hexal....care to share??? How was the show, his new studio? was it any good?

Moiss

March 16th, 2005, 09:51 PM

I wanna watch it...... :nohope: ...............:)

I take that back......check it out at www.g4techtv.com, you can watch it there.......the works are awesome.....damn.....:)

darth massacre

March 16th, 2005, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the link Moiss. Enjoyed his interview and I thought he's very honest about his jobscope. Tonnes of fun at times, tonnes of headaches at other times. Should give you guys a good idea what it feels like. :teeth:

Moiss

March 17th, 2005, 11:38 PM

Tonnes of fun at times, tonnes of headaches at other times.

yeah......I remembered he was saying has to produce 100 drawings over a week...wuuhhhh......that's 400 a month......and he must be drawing all day long...:)

I would be extremely happy if I could work on his new studio....haha...it's just impossible......... :blahblah:

darth massacre

March 18th, 2005, 01:43 AM

yeah......I remembered he was saying has to produce 100 drawings over a week...wuuhhhh......that's 400 a month......and he must be drawing all day long...:)

Errr...I think he meant the entire art department for StarWars....not him alone. That's still about 12-15 drawings per week for about 8 or 9 concept artists. Or 3 a day, which breaks down to about 3 hours a piece if you consider an 8 hour work day (which is pure hell when you look at the detail they produce).

Moiss

March 18th, 2005, 10:41 AM

Errr...I think he meant the entire art department for StarWars....not him alone

that's what i meant.....

yeah......I remembered he was saying has to produce 100 drawings over a week...wuuhhhh......that's 400 a month......and he must be drawing all day long...:)

I forgot to put "THEY" supposed to be = I remembered he was saying that they have to produce 100 drawings over a week...wuuhhhh......that's 400 a month......and he must be drawing all day long

sorry for the misunderstandings....... :bashful:

Rah

March 18th, 2005, 08:10 PM

Hey Everyone,
I'm new on here and I'm planning on going to Sheridan for Art Fundies in September and I'd like any advice from anyone, also I'd like to get to know other people who are going there. Thx! :) Also I got a question for Wasabi...

Hi everyone,
I've been enjoying reading this thread!
I got accepted for fundies for September, and I am planning to attend it.
I have some questions for any of you who can help me...

(1) Is it too late to apply for the 4 yr illustration for Fall 2005?
(2) Do you know anyone employed in a graphic design job after completing fundies?

Thank you anyone who could help me with my questions.
Have a nice evening!

Hey Wasabi, how do you know you've been accepted to fundies for September? I thought they don't send out acceptances until March 31st? IF they've sent you yours already then WOW your so lucky, I can't wait to get mine!

Rah

March 18th, 2005, 08:33 PM

Wasabi

March 19th, 2005, 09:58 AM

Hi Rah,

Not to worry - I am a mature student - a lot older than the people in this forum, and for mature students they send out acceptance after Feb 1st.
I think, for current high school students they send out acceptance letter after Mar 31st.

So don't worry!
Good luck with your application!

Wasabi

Rah

March 19th, 2005, 10:11 AM

:) That's a relief, I was gettin kinda worried for a bit there. Did you take a year or few off or were you attending a different school?

HEROIC

March 19th, 2005, 10:38 AM

AaaaAa,,, Lotssa people are goin to fundies this Sep.

hmmm, But i wont be goin for next year. I'll be in the Animation for next year. Yay. Gotta work hard to catch it.

Also heard about Seneca collage. its offering a 3 years course. I tink the same certificate that sheridans giving.

i've asked many people which has gone to SHeridan or Seneca, they've said in Seneca u've make a big big pile of portfolio for your self. But, i dunno. Am gonna apply for Both of em. Sheridan and Seneca.

huh,,, for now,, its better to just draw, learn, draw, learn. 10 month to go. for Sending the portfolios. eik....
Should work hell more than this then.

oh,, any one know Wheres Softdrawer. long time he havent check ma stuff. And also you darth massacre. Would u plz pay a visit to my sb.
I migh go to Illustration. i still dunno what do i like more.

rah- Start an Sketchbook. Yeee. :confident
Looking forward to see your drawings..

ALi, :^^:

Rah

March 19th, 2005, 02:30 PM

Thx Heroic for the advice. I've got a little SketchBook now so check it out everyone! :)

darth massacre

March 20th, 2005, 12:10 PM

oh,, any one know Wheres Softdrawer. long time he havent check ma stuff. And also you darth massacre.
Go away I'm trying to draw something :teeth: :teeth:

Improving all the time dude....

Hope to see y'all at Sheridan in September.....

Hey guys (referring to the older group) maybe we can organize a sketch outing like we did when we started out last september?

endregan

March 20th, 2005, 01:29 PM

well in two weeks (first monday of every month) there is a comic jam that happens monday nights 7- 10 in the A-Wing.

we could all meet there. I went last month and was lonely....didnt know anyone lol.

Lets dooo itt

Rah

March 20th, 2005, 05:19 PM

How long have you guys been at Sheridan?

endregan

March 20th, 2005, 06:36 PM

Hey Rah and welcome. For most of us its our first year here.

I originally started this thread about a year and a half ago!!! The school year is almost over sad to say :(

Rah

March 20th, 2005, 06:57 PM

That's kewl endregan, I'm anxiously awaiting an acceptance letter *crosses fingers*.....it's gonna be so weird IF I get in...I don't know a single person from my highschool that's planning on going to Sheridan.

TPhilipT

March 20th, 2005, 07:51 PM

does anyone know when they give out the confirmation or letter for illustration...im a mature student because i went to art fundamentals in 2003 ....i saw those star wars art by feng on tech tv pretty genius i say.. and animation and illustration is 4 years heroic man, they're bachelor's degrees ....rah dont worry i'm sure you'll meet tons of interesting people =) peaceee

darth massacre

March 21st, 2005, 12:51 AM

The school year is almost over sad to say :(
That's 4 months in Singapore for me and 4 months of peace and quiet away from Endregan and Softdrawer! :teeth:

Add: They'll prolly give out acceptance letters by end March or early April. If you're applying for Fundies I heard they've already sent out acceptance letters.

Phillip is correct, the program is a 4 yr applied arts bachelor and not a 3 yr diploma program like it was previously.

If my friend from Singapore gets into the program I'll be back in Oakville slightly earlier so we can all meet up, I don't mind bringing you guys around too, its not a big town....if not I'd just move back the weekend before school starts :D

Rah

March 21st, 2005, 08:19 AM

Do you think I'd be able to get into residence? I've applied for it already, I know it's a lottery but what are my chances? :P

Hexal

March 21st, 2005, 09:28 AM

Sooo I think that one of my first questions is:
With life drawing in the Fundies program, how basic do they start off?
I haven't had a lot of experience, mainly because I live in a small town and we can't find models. I have done a bit though.

Since no one seemed to answer your question i will. It starts off pretty easy i think, you just start drawing right away really, the teacher i have doesnt go into explaining any strucure of the figure really, but if you keep it up and go to all the class, as well as extra life, then you should get a good grasp of it. Extra life being life drawing classes held off your regular schedule.

In class you start with gestures of course, and then move into longer poses, get into some cross hatching, and right now we are doing a 3 week pencil crayon rendering which is kind of cool. If you get a good grasp of line wieght you should do fine.

HEROIC

March 21st, 2005, 11:47 AM

Do you think I'd be able to get into residence? I've applied for it already, I know it's a lottery but what are my chances?

I wanted to get residence too, but its not worth it. ALot of money :\ which i dont have. AaAaa. I always wanted to live in a dorm. But, hopefully am pretty close to SHeridan. And i dont got the money for residence.

Rah

March 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM

Yea, residence may be expensive, but lucky for my cost isn't an issue, my dad is paying for everything. :teeth:

endregan

March 21st, 2005, 03:15 PM

Rah

March 21st, 2005, 05:48 PM

residence = no

you dont get your own kitchen, you have to share with everyone on res.. Im paying the same if not less for my rent and I am staying in a townhouse with my brother and another guy from illustration, Ken, he used to post here..... hehe

Anyway I HIGHLY recommend LOOK FOR A PLACE NOW!!! or really soon. The apartment buildings are just across the road from sheridan, they are pretty decent places too.

rah - luckyyyy... not all of us are that fortunate :)

Yea, I didn't really WANT to get into residence, but my dad really really wants me to, I originally wanted to get a place with my boyfriend, but I don't think that's a great idea. How many places will still be available in mid-May after I can find out if I get into residence. Thx for the tips though, I'll start looking into the other places to live around Sheridan. :)

darth massacre

March 21st, 2005, 07:08 PM

Residence ....HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Its expensive, its not terribly big, you pay for laundry, no kitchen, shared space, terrible internet bandwidth, only upside...its in school so you don't need to spend on transport.....then again you could get a room around Sheridan for less than $500 and still not pay for transport....there are many places within walking distance.

There are more places to stay around Oakville that have better access to facilities and are cheaper. If you're willing to share with some friends, you can bring the cost down further by getting an apartment.

I'm actually moving out of my room coz I'm renting a place with some friends. So if anyone's interested, message me and I'll give you the information of my landlord. Nice Taiwanese couple, their kids are at school somewhere else so the house is pretty much yours. Bonus if anyone speaks mandarin :D

Rah

March 21st, 2005, 09:04 PM

Residence ....HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

There are more places to stay around Oakville that have better access to facilities and are cheaper. If you're willing to share with some friends, you can bring the cost down further by getting an apartment.

Whhhhaaa, but I have no friends going there, I'm going to be alll alone. :P

darth massacre

March 21st, 2005, 11:50 PM

You can try here.

SHeridan Housing (http://www.sheridansu.net/su/housing/index.htm)

Endregan showed me this link about a year back and that's how I found my current hole.

Check Trafalgar Campus....not Brampton Campus. Good place to start. Though I'd suggest you consider places that are less than 500 meters away from school. I stay about 1.5km away (just a hundred meters away from Endregan, Moose and Kenny) and its a 25 min walk to school daily. I'm moving to an apartment that's less than 500m away from school so it'll be easier next semester.

I have some addresses ready to send to anyone who needs a place to stay. These are good landlords I've spoken to personally or recieved recommendations from friends who stayed with them. I have to say my current room is very nice, but a tad too far to walk....great if you own a bike or car....or can somehow get used to the bus service (bus stops just 30 seconds away).

HEROIC

March 22nd, 2005, 07:39 AM

Whhhhaaa, but I have no friends going there, I'm going to be alll alone. :P

hmm,, i know Qian is goin to fundies on this September too. and SHe wanted to get residence too, but i know she'll be happy to hear about this. maybe u can talk to her about getting a little house around the campus. :)

ALi :^^:

Rah

March 22nd, 2005, 10:46 AM

hmm,, i know Qian is goin to fundies on this September too. and SHe wanted to get residence too, but i know she'll be happy to hear about this. maybe u can talk to her about getting a little house around the campus. :)

ALi :^^:

Qian, when you read this, like send me a message or something and we can chat.

Taj

March 23rd, 2005, 10:29 PM

is it REALLY as hard as people say to get into the BOA in animation or illustration courses out of high school?

I could take U english for my final year, but id rather take C so thats why im asking.

Qian Wang

March 24th, 2005, 06:36 AM

Qian, when you read this, like send me a message or something and we can chat.

Ray, yes, I have got an admission for art fundies. but I am still waiting for other results from BAA program and one in vancouvour. well , if I am end up to Sheridan, I prefer to live off campus, though my parents hope me to live in residence. I guess I can know their decision soon since March 31. :^^;:

endregan

March 24th, 2005, 03:10 PM

is it REALLY as hard as people say to get into the BOA in animation or illustration courses out of high school?

I could take U english for my final year, but id rather take C so thats why im asking.

Well of the thousands that apply only just over 100 are accepted so it is pretty difficult to get in I would say!! Getting in is a feat in itself, and then going through the program is another challenge hehe.

Dont take C college. Unless you have english problems, you will be very bored with college english. I was thinking of doing the same but its not worth it, college level english is waste of time just go for university english!

Taj

March 24th, 2005, 05:05 PM

So End, i SHOULDNT bother with Illustrattion and Animation till im done fundies maybe?

Hexal

March 24th, 2005, 11:55 PM

If you feel like you can take it, and you have what it takes to get in, go for the Baa courses, But Fundies is a good course, teaches you alot that you are expected to already know for the baa courses, or atleast i hear. But ofcourse the course is what you make it.

Rah

March 25th, 2005, 10:12 AM

So End, i SHOULDNT bother with Illustrattion and Animation till im done fundies maybe?

Why don't you just apply to all three?

darth massacre

March 25th, 2005, 11:57 AM

Like Hex said, it really depends on where you feel you stand.

A lot of people couldn't understand why Fundies is important. But reality is, fundies help shape up some skills, trains your eyes and take away the unpolished edges for what's coming ahead. Better yet, if you're not sure you want to go into this line of work, Fundies could be your "tryout". Spend a year to figure out whether its what you want (though I can safely say work and school are completely different).

If you feel you're confident enough to move from high school art direct into an bachelor program, go ahead. All I can say is a lot of my classmates who were talented enough to go direct into Illustration got an initial shock at how much work there was. But they survived the year well and scored pretty good.

darth massacre

March 26th, 2005, 12:15 PM

International Students Applying for Illustration AND Animation check your mailboxes. The acceptance letters have already been sent out.

endregan

March 26th, 2005, 05:59 PM

Yeah moving straight from highschool to the baa program is rough, plus I missed out on OAC's which used to be that last year of high school so it was a bit of a brutal wakeup call to begin with.

If you try really hard and do your best you adjust and the second semester is a lot easier to handle.

Really its just getting used to the workload and what your main goal is, what you want to learn. Spend more time on what you like doing otherwise you become miserable!!

Plus the fact they make the first semester really tough, its always hard for everyone in the beginning, it is something new to get a grip on.

happy easter
happy psychology test monday morning.... :)

Majofo

March 27th, 2005, 05:28 PM

Just to Clearify.
In the Fundementals Program...does it cover just FINE ART stuff in general or does it deal directly with what the other programs are teaching, like Computer Animation?

I am taking FINE ART at Grant Mac right now so at first when i see this Fundementals Program i feel that it's the same as what I am doing right now in my first year.

If I do 2 years FINE ART, then I will be okay if I wanna go into Computer Animation right?

~Matt

darth massacre

March 27th, 2005, 06:03 PM

**scratches head**

Eh, hopefully this doesn't sound offensive, but its not math...doesn't mean you do 2 years of this or 20 hours of that and you're qualified for something else.

Fundies is a seperate course from the BAA or diploma programs that Sheridan offers. I'm sure you've covered whatever Art Fundamentals have to offer in your current school. You can apply for Animation or Illustration without applying for Fundies.

Also, what you're asking may be BAA Animation instead of the Postgrad Computer animation. BAA animation is a 4 yr program that contains elements of computer animation and classical animation...you'd be trained in both by the time you graduate.

While the postgrad computer animation program is quite advanced and caters to folks who've already had past experience (be it work or school) with 3D software. It includes character rigging, programming and the more techincal aspects of the 3D software.

Qian Wang

March 27th, 2005, 10:05 PM

International Students Applying for Illustration AND Animation check your mailboxes. The acceptance letters have already been sent out.

:heart: OMG! :vodkamachine:

Artistic Suicide

March 28th, 2005, 02:43 AM

Hey guys,

I realize it's too late for this year, but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with applying for fundies and/or illustration as a mature student. Aside from the 19 year old age limit, what are the admission requirements? The Sheridan website is pretty vague in that area. I'll probably be giving the school a call soon, to see what they have to say, but a little extra information never went amiss.

Thanks in advance,
~Blaine

darth massacre

March 28th, 2005, 01:39 PM

:heart: OMG! :vodkamachine:
So did you get in?

Artistic Suicide: I applied as a mature student. Not much difference to me, you still have to submit a portfolio and your past academic results (if you have any) and resume if you have work experience in related fields. Basically the more information you can provide the better your chances. Most of the folks who applied to Sheridan from Singapore (these guys are friends of mine) are usually successful on the first try due to their work experience, portfolio and past diploma in visual arts.

Artistic Suicide

March 28th, 2005, 07:10 PM

Darth, are the portfolio submissions/requirements the same as if I was applying normally(i.e. option A/option B)? Would I have to submit a portfolio when applying to fundies(that seems redundant to me)?

For my academic results, I assume you're referring to my highschool marks? The main reason i'm looking to apply as a mature student is because, technically, I only possess a grade ten education(possessing all the compulsory credits for that grade). Will this pose any problems for me when applying? Do I need to have certain credits? Will I have to write any tests to demonstrate my current abilities?

As for my past work experience, I have done some private commisions, web layout design, designed/painted a mural for a previous school I attended, etc. Do those things count as being in a related field?

Thanks, again, for your help. I'm still pretty ignorant when it comes to this sort of thing.

~Blaine

Taj

March 28th, 2005, 07:29 PM

Darth, do you still get a math/english class for fundies?

darth massacre

March 29th, 2005, 02:02 AM

ArtisticSuicide: I'd opt for Option A but keep the artwork selection close to the guidelines for option B.

I'm not sure how the system here works...I'm an international student. But I believe as a mature student, they look more at your work experience (freelance work in your case) rather than at grades from high school. So your resume, or at least track record, should be relatively complete.

I'll check with my older classmates tomorrow regarding the mature student application (hehe, older....hahaha....I'm the oldest fart in class). They might have a better idea whether high school results matter as a mature student applicant.

Taj....I didn't go through Fundies so you should direct your questions to Hexal, Moose (that's Endregan's twin) or Moiss (if they still hang out at this thread that is.) Don't give the math and english back to your teacher yet :D it will come in handy in first yr animation and illustration.

edit: For all those who are going into First Yr animation or illustration...READ UP NOW...READ A LOT....English classes will be easier if you have knowledge of current affairs.

Bloody @#!@%@#^%....this year's animation fees are cheaper than last yrs by CAD$1000 (for international students) I hope the fees for illustration reduce accordingly.

Moiss

March 29th, 2005, 06:34 PM

I guess I'll share some of my experience in fundies which currently i am,

Taj: as far as i am in fundies now the courses offered did not teach math or english, however there are some courses that expect you to understand some maths but not like "heavy" stuff, u know like calculus, or algebra something like that.....it's pretty much the basic stuff.....but heck...there's nothing wrong if you do better in math.......like darth said.....it'll become handy........:)

Artistic Suicide: I'm not sure about mature student bcoz i applied to fundies using my secondary school transcript with eligible marks of entry level requirement, but in my opinion i think you don't need portfolio to enter fundies...i think they just want the transcript and proof of your academic level, i'm guessing you can use those highschool transcripts or diploma-level certificates that you have done in the past.......well...I'd give a call to the school for more info........

Darth: last year's animation tuition fee was higher than illustration, now is vice versa.......(sigh....)

For all those who are going into First Yr animation or illustration...READ UP NOW...READ A LOT....English classes will be easier if you have knowledge of current affairs. damn....i really suck at essays........

see y'all in this september whoever got accepted......:)

Hexal

March 29th, 2005, 11:21 PM

lol Whoa, i was reading your post moiss, and i could have Sworen i relied to this. its like my post dissapeared D: wierd.

What i mean is

Darths post
Where mine should be
YOurs

I did it at lunch today D: i must not have hit reply, lol

Moiss

March 30th, 2005, 12:07 AM

darth massacre

March 30th, 2005, 01:37 AM

Getting sloppy Hex....getting real sloppy :teeth:

HuB

March 31st, 2005, 02:09 PM

Hey fellas & gals,

Anyone check their access.sheridaninstitute.ca account? I just checked mine today and it says "firm admit", so I think I'm in - unless it's some database error, but that would be far too cruel! If I choose to accept, I'll be starting the BAA Animation in the fall. Anyone else on these boards gonna be there?

Good luck to everyone who's still waiting!
cheers!

p.s. I haven't posted anything in a few months, so don't take my old posts as representative of my current portfolio. I think I kicked it up a notch when I started going to regular life drawing studios.

p.p.s. here are details of two images I did submit in the "personal" artwork section of the portfolio. I did these in october 2004.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/HumanB/barbarian2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/HumanB/astronaut.jpg

Artistic Suicide

March 31st, 2005, 02:37 PM

Thanks for the info Darth and Moiss. It's mainly the fact that I only, technically, have my grade ten that's bothering me. It's going to be a real pain if I need to get my grade twelve diploma.

I'm confident I could put together a decent portfolio, despite the fact that you don't really need one for fundies and my drawing leans heavily toward the fantasy genre. I still don't understand why fantasy is frowned upon at Sheridan.

Oh, and Darth, were you able to talk to your older classmates?

~Blaine

Nayuki

March 31st, 2005, 04:30 PM

Hey guys.. none of you guys probably remember me... (cuz i don't post here much)..
but I got accepted into BAA Animation too!!
I'm so happy!! feels like all my hard work hard finally paid off *____*;;;
hope everybody got favourable results too!! good luck!! ^^

Rah

March 31st, 2005, 04:40 PM

Yey! I checked the access sheridan thing too and I've got me a conditional offer for art fundamentals! :)....i don't know why it's conditional but I guess I'll find out when all the papers get here! but still yey! i'm so excited, i was so exicted to go tell my mum i slipped on the stairs! lmao

tweak_hp

March 31st, 2005, 04:53 PM

yay...i got into fundies...at sheridan and georgian ..i'm leaning toward sheridan...but we'll see if i get into carleton for industrial design before any decisions are made.
also, i girl in my art class just found out she didn't get into BAA animation at sheridan..i feel so bad for her, she came all the way from korea just for that program...she applied elsewhere but was hoping for this one...wut really bugs me is that her art is amazing...she really really shoulda got in. maybe she'll come for funies tho....

darth massacre

March 31st, 2005, 04:54 PM

Oh, and Darth, were you able to talk to your older classmates?

D'oh! I just remembered! I'll get them later via MSN. Its been a tough few weeks for most....one more major assignment deadline tomorrow + major major essay deadline on Monday.

Anyway from what I know. 2 of the guys from my class went into Art Fundamentals first before going into Illustration. Another girl had an engineering degree and didn't go through Fundies...she go accepted right away. Others applied having done a couple of years in Fine Arts elsewhere. So I think having a strong portfolio, a decent resume/record of jobs and a good recommendation letter from someone you worked for (in relevant fields) should be good places to start.

TO EVERYONE ELSE: Congratulations to those who got in. And Good Luck to whoever's still waiting.

HEROIC

March 31st, 2005, 10:24 PM

Hey guys,, congratz to all those who got in.

Um, i've got a question.
For PBAAA it needs a:
seniorlevel Visual Art credit at the U/C, or Open Level, or the general or advanced level

DOes it mean, it needs a Grade 12 Art, or Grade 11 will be enough. If my portfolio will be something really amazing , will they let me in with grade 11 art? . I know, there are alot of people applying to PBAAA, but eeh,, it worth a try.
Its for NEXT year.

And, also, i just found the Trafalgar Road Campus Tell #.
is there any number for Art Animation department, or something like that?

darth massacre- Hey,,, arr, i think, u got straight into PBAAA, ehh?
how come, an International student, wow, that should have been really hard. a pain in the ass.

darth massacre

March 31st, 2005, 11:12 PM

Heroic: I'm actually in BAA Illustration not Animation. 2 of my friends from Singapore (one was a former colleague) got straight into Animation. I can't speak for international students from elsewhere, but for Singaporeans, especially males, we have to complete our 2 yr military service before we can further our education. Usually we have a diploma of some sorts preceding our military service. And most of us have some sort of industry experience prior to going ahead with further education.....sooooo, we're probably slightly ahead with our portfolios with regards to that.

In fact my friends are turning 30 and 27 this year....I'm turning 27 myself in 2005. We're kinda old :teeth:

Red Mimic

April 1st, 2005, 12:02 AM

Hexal

April 1st, 2005, 10:53 AM

Moiss

April 1st, 2005, 04:07 PM

I'm confident I could put together a decent portfolio, despite the fact that you don't really need one for fundies and my drawing leans heavily toward the fantasy genre. I still don't understand why fantasy is frowned upon at Sheridan.
It's not that they don't want to see fantasy genre stuff, but honestly when I came to Sheridan I've seen a lot of animation and illustration students' works doing fantasy or whatever genre you want to make..there were some really really cool stuff......they really wanna know most of your observational skills like life drawing.

At first before I came to Sheridan I was thinking the same way..........but hey...I think you pick the right direction for choosing Sheridan... :)

WildSpruceMoose

April 1st, 2005, 05:27 PM

Yay! I got accepted to Illustration. Let the hazing begin =) Gotta long way to go still :bashful:

darth massacre

April 1st, 2005, 07:48 PM

You two are SOOOOOOO gonna get it! >:D

tweak_hp

April 1st, 2005, 08:04 PM

Hey Tweak,

Georgian is a fun school but as far as attitude, its leaning towards slacker school. I went there and I did get into Illustration after I took a year off between my fundies year and now. Georgian was a good experience even though I wasn't 19 for most of it. Barrie is a fairly nice city, small, but nice and its not crawling with suburbs everywhere. Also you get a few academic courses up there that you dont get in the Sheridan fundies program I'm told. Bunch of electives like psychology and some other terrible stuff but just pick the right ones and its alright.

Just thought you might wanna know that stuff if you choose that place.

thanks a lot for your input...that's definatly some stuff i need to consider...a psych class would come in handy when/if i go to carleton after. i dunno yet tho, i love the sounds of sheridan, and georgian just seems way to close to home...i need to get away...ottawa would be nice.

Qian Wang

April 1st, 2005, 10:52 PM

:\ now, I am really worried about my application. My status on BAA is still under consideration. What is the deeper meaning of that...??? When could I know the result?... I am almost insane! :er:

"ChEsTeR"

April 2nd, 2005, 12:06 PM

how can you tell if you got in or not

tweak_hp

April 2nd, 2005, 12:34 PM

go here (https://access.sheridaninstitute.ca) and use the user name and password they sent you in the mail. go the the self service thing and go through that till you find check application status.

one question for people at sheridan. does anyone in fundies have a sketchbook or some examples of the work they did this year? i'd really like to see some of the stuff coming out of both schools.

endregan

April 2nd, 2005, 01:54 PM

Good luck guys and congrats to those who got in already. So far I have heard that Ryan(hexal) and my little sister (wildsprucemoose) got accepted into illustration. Well hes not really my sister, hes my twin brother and I have 12 mins on him. Alright!

Just finishing off first year I can tell you, you guys are in for a ride :).

"ChEsTeR"

April 2nd, 2005, 02:48 PM

i got a conditional offer to illustration.. but im not sure if im gonna go yet. I live two provences to the left and thats pretty far away. i could take a year off. anyone know if alberta school of arts and design is good. calagary is such a dope city. im sure toronto is too.

alxcote

April 3rd, 2005, 01:29 AM

fukc ive been away for so long, hey everybody. I remade my website, made a new CA account, made a new sketchbook, new everything !!1 .. i had to refresh for 2005. ;)

so hows everybody ?? .. ready for a 2nd year at nasty sheridan? Im 80% im coming back.. so its all about how i feel during the summer id say.

..and who got in their new programs ???????

alright, im off, its 1:30 am, i have a damn essay to write up.

alx

darth massacre

April 3rd, 2005, 03:49 PM

sooooo Axl....who the hell are you?

And what do you mean you're not having fun with the Essay! :teeth:

(its 15 hours to D-Day and I'm still only 25% done)

Chill dude.

endregan

April 3rd, 2005, 07:25 PM

pshhh alex only has to write a two page essay, takes like 5 minutes :D. lucky bastard. Whats this 80% sure coming back? Ohhh you will come back haaha.

I say we petition the retarded required psychology course we have to take!!!!

Whose with me!!!

Rah

April 3rd, 2005, 09:24 PM

I say we petition the retarded required psychology course we have to take!!!!

Whose with me!!!

Why do you have to take psychology for illustration?

darth massacre

April 3rd, 2005, 10:32 PM

Psych is important for Illustration and Animation.....VERY important. And I'm not being sarcastic.

No time to explain, I still have another 400 words (or so) to write up and finish it off!

JUST IN TIME :teeth:

Oooooh Alxcote...= softdrawer = ALEX! Dude, 2 pages.....WTF? We have to do like...10. (no comments on others....Animation is a 48 credit/year course and Illustration is a 36cred/yr course).

Alright alright...I'm buzzing off.

Artistic Suicide

April 4th, 2005, 03:19 PM

Hey Guys,

I called the school and the requirements they gave me for applying as a mature student(for Art Fundamentals anyway) are:
- 19 years of age
- never finished highschool
- highschool transcripts
- possible english testing
- resume(optional, I believe)

And applicants are chosen on a first come, first serve basis. Basically, the sooner I apply, the better my chances. Although, they only start looking at applicants for the January term in August.

I still need to ask about portfolios and whether or not I have to go to the school for the english testing.

It's not that they don't want to see fantasy genre stuff, but honestly when I came to Sheridan I've seen a lot of animation and illustration students' works doing fantasy or whatever genre you want to make..there were some really really cool stuff......they really wanna know most of your observational skills like life drawing.

That's good to know....
It annoys me that people don't seem to realize that fantasy, while being fantasy, does contain a high degree of realism.

Elves, fairies, mages, warriors, etc. still require good life/anatomy drawing skills to look convincing. Western/european dragons can be referenced from different forms of life as well(bats, snakes, lizards, alligators, crocodiles, caimans). The asian lung can be further added to with birds(for feathers) and deer(for antlers). The mexican amphithere can also use birds for feather reference.

The fantasy genre actually takes other genres like realism and portraiture and takes them to a whole new level. A lot of people can draw/duplicate a face, but can those same people draw/duplicate a face and add pointy ears, battle scars, various tatoos, etc. while still having it look real/convincing?

Drawing fantasy requires realism skills as well as a great imagination. I don't see why some fantasy artists have their work ridiculed and called generic or have people tell us that a unicorn is a horse with a horn and isn't suppose to have wings or be purple. It's freakin' fantasy! [/RANT]

Oh, Darth, for psychology, do they teach you colour psychology. You know, stuff like:

- Red is an attention grabber. Words and objects in red get people 's attention immediately. In decorating and design, red items should be perfect since it will attract attention. When it comes to cars, there is a positive correlation between the color red and theft rate.

- Red is an emotionally intense and very extreme color. Red clothing can be uplifting and convey power and energy but may invite confrontation.

- Red is extremely dominating. It should be used as an accent not as a background.

- Red rooms make people anxious but rooms with a red accent can cause people to lose track of time, thus are favored by bars and casinos. Restaurants often use red as a decorating scheme because of its appetite stimulant function.

I'd love to learn that sort of thing. People like(or hate) different works of art because it makes them feel something(disgust, awe, familiarity). So, if you painted something using colours psychologically proven to promote a certain emotion in people, they'd be more likely to buy(or, at least, notice) your work. That's my theory anyway. I'll have to test it some day.

~Blaine

darth massacre

April 4th, 2005, 05:40 PM

Psychology PSYCHOLOGY. As in ALL ASPECTS of it in brief (very brief, but a lot to cover).

Here's the textbook. 14 chapters, spanning from early psychologists like Sigmund Freud to more current psychologists like Maslow. It gives us good insight of the human mind and how it works.

OUR TEXTBOOK (http://www.mcgrawhill.ca/college/feldman/)

It annoys me that people don't seem to realize that fantasy, while being fantasy, does contain a high degree of realism.
I think the issue isn't directed against fantasy art or (GASP) Anime. Just that these are particular styles that the client wants and the artists deliver. The objective of the program is to let the students have a variety of core capabilities that they can utilise when they graduate. It'd be great if they let us do what we want, but in the end, when we graduate and go look for jobs and we only did things in a particular style, we will not be able to justify spending that much for a degree coz we can't find jobs across the board.

These are words direct from the Course COordinator. And I agree totally from work experience.

I've got friends work on a Hobbit house for perspective drawing. I consider it fantasy art, but the important point was he did the drawing based on the method that was taught. He got an A that he totally deserve.

Anyway no one is stopping anyone from doing things their way outside of school. I revert back to my personal style I've been developing for the last 10 yrs or so (err, I'm kinda older than most of the folks here by at least 5 yrs) outside of schoolwork. But I deliver what the program expects out of me when I submit schoolwork. The teachers in school are your first clients.

Rats, lost out to Endregan on the 3rd test by 5 points!! :needle:

darth massacre

April 4th, 2005, 06:50 PM

Oh right.....if anyone wants to stay outside of rez and are still looking for rooms, let me know. I have a couple of trusted landlords to introduce.

Qian Wang

April 4th, 2005, 11:57 PM

:[ I failed. BAA declined me. I am stilling waiting for other consideration from Emily carr and have the admission of art fundies already. I have preceived that the way is not easy to go, so it's ok. At least , I am still pursuing my dream. :confident Congratulations to those who got accepted! Best wishes, and hoping to meet you guys in Sheridan one day. ;)

Rah

April 5th, 2005, 07:09 AM

So I'm going to a Art Fundies Information Session or something on the 23rd I believe, is that like a big thing for all the ppl that got into it or some or individual?

tweak_hp

April 5th, 2005, 09:40 AM

i'm pretty sure its a big thing for everyone. i'm probly goin, maybe i'll see ya there.

Hexal

April 5th, 2005, 10:10 AM

Its not so much a big thing, its just a showing in the fundies work, illustartion, animation. You just get a feel for what youll be doing there and whats come out of the programs. Plus you can walk around the school and see what its like.I went last year its pretty good, get a feel for stuff.

darth massacre

April 5th, 2005, 11:01 PM

tweak_hp

April 5th, 2005, 11:21 PM

hmm...i dunno if i like the sounds of that or not
if i'm going for industrial design after, which stream do you think i'd be in?...illustration?

HuB

April 6th, 2005, 12:31 AM

Oh right.....if anyone wants to stay outside of rez and are still looking for rooms, let me know. I have a couple of trusted landlords to introduce.

thanks for the offer. I sent you a PM.

HuB

April 6th, 2005, 12:37 AM

Qian Wang

April 6th, 2005, 01:00 AM

"Dear Qian

I have learned that unfortunately, you were not offered a spot in the
BAAA program due to the level of competition. The college has developed
a new program called Art Fundamentals - Animation and they are planning
to offer you a spot in that program. It recognizes your ability in
animation and is offered to students who applied to animation but did
not make the cut.

We will be in touch soon with more information.

Sincerely"

:dead: cmft me,please...

Rah

April 6th, 2005, 07:06 AM

Supposedly this Fall's fundies are being streamed. Animation, Illustration, Interior design and so on.

If they target specifics, ie impart specific skills required to prepare a student for the course they're going to take up, then I think its great. But if its going to become nothing more than a portfolio preparation year then it defeats the purpose completely.

eek, so will i have to know what i plan on doing the year after fundies? because i'm looking at both animation and illustration because I'm not sure which one i'd rather take

tweak_hp

April 6th, 2005, 09:25 AM

ya..i've decided that i don't like the idea, most of the people that go to fundies are going to decide which route to take after it...they shouldn't force them to decide before they even get started.

Hexal

April 6th, 2005, 11:29 AM

I do think that the animation and illustration Streams are for people who applied to animation or illustration and did not get in, you could still take normal Fundies if you want, if you are looking for a taste of what an art college and career is going to be like. Its a perfect idea as a course for people who want to go into thoses respecting courses, you would learn stuff more strictly based for that course not just general this and that.

So if your not really sure, maybe straight fundies is that way to go.

But this is all things i heard for students and teachers, just yesterday so dont hold anything to me :bashful:

TPhilipT

April 6th, 2005, 03:54 PM

i didn't get accepted in illustration and i wasn't suprised, does anyone know how you can see how they marked your portfolio,what you did wrong or your score on it???

darth massacre

April 6th, 2005, 08:17 PM

You can call the School of Animation, Art and Design office to arrange for a portfolio pickup or for your score on the portfolio test.

Qian Wang

April 6th, 2005, 08:18 PM

I didn't get in either (for Animation). and I wanna my score 2. Does anyone know about it ?

HEROIC

April 7th, 2005, 03:13 PM

whats the number for School of Animation, Art and Design office ?? :[

Hexal

April 7th, 2005, 11:49 PM

I dont know how relevent this is, but heres a taste of what you do at the end of fundies, the last 2 drawings(2 weeks) we have been doing were portraits, since i handed mine in already i did this weeks for fun. I really enjoy these this is only one class' worth.

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/5138/bam0vg.jpg

ps.dont mind the pixelation on the sides, i dont know what was up there,= :bashful:

JJH

April 8th, 2005, 02:03 AM

I'm sorry to hear some of you here did not get into the program you wanted.

One of my friends was also put into the streamed program. I think it's a good idea to have a stream. If you come to Sheridan you most likely know which program you wanted to get into, so it's all cool.

However if you want to gain some knowledge about the Illustration fundies stream then try to get to know someone that is in that program and you can swap valuable knowledge.

Oh and on a sidenote, if you want to really improve your chances of getting into your desired program next year then when you get to Sheridan, sign up for a Tutor in Lifedrawing (animation or illustration). Mine not only helped me with lifedrawing but looked through my portfolio, helped me along the way through the whole year, and got me into Animation. With a tutor you get a really good idea of what they are looking for in the portfolio, and will guide you in the right direction. It's 20 bucks for.. sorry i forgot how many hours but it's a lot for 20 bucks.

edit: oh and, if u really want to spend your life doing animatoin as a career, don't give up =p. apply again.. fundies is a great program to prepare again.

alxcote

April 8th, 2005, 02:15 AM

Anyone know what kind of hardware animation students will need? I did take a quick tour last time I was in the area but I forgot to ask. Do most folks just use the labs and do everything there? It wasn't too busy that Friday afternoon but I imagine it might get overcrowded at times.

At school there's everything except Wacom Tablets (theres expensive, break easily if used by everybody, can get stolen) , and you need to buy a portable hard drive. Those 2 are around 200 each so = 400$.

Then you can buy your own light table to put at home, like i did. Because you don't want to go to school every now and then just to make your short animation test. And that around 200 - 300$ for one.

Scanners, Computers, Software, Workstations, Light tables, Laptops, Cameras, Line Testers... its all at school and ready to use. Not too crowded either.. it's usualy pretty good. Only the line Testers might get crowded by times...but even thats ok.

home that helps

alx

darth massacre

April 8th, 2005, 02:28 AM

Oh hey, guys, who's interested in a "end of school year dinner" once again?

Last outing we had a pathetic 5 people turn up despite having about a dozen or so regulars on this thread.

Weekdays are good too actually. In fact after next Wednesday I won't have anything more to submit. Friday is good too...assuming none of you guys have already packed and gone off home by the end of this week. I'm going for a paintball game this friday anyway so it might be tight.

Which leads me to ask. Who wants to go paintball on Friday?

endregan

April 8th, 2005, 03:19 PM

lets all get ripped on our last day and go to class!!!

:o
dinner shounds good. where you want to go eh ?

for all you people with work to do, I know I do:
GET HER DONE!!!!!!

Rah

April 9th, 2005, 10:33 AM

I dont know how relevent this is, but heres a taste of what you do at the end of fundies, the last 2 drawings(2 weeks) we have been doing were portraits, since i handed mine in already i did this weeks for fun. I really enjoy these this is only one class' worth.

Wow, that's really impressive! Are classes like 3 hours long in fundies?

Hexal

April 9th, 2005, 11:02 AM

Yeah classes are about 3 hours long, with a big break of 30 minutes in there. I life drawing the model takes some breaks every now and then so its was about 2 hours maybe. But yeah, all classes are 3 hours.

this_is_du

April 9th, 2005, 09:03 PM

hello

i got into Sheridan's illustration program :perv:

but why is Sheridan opening up the admissions again? i thought they said it was an oversubscribed program?!? :S

i also got into OCAD and i dunno which one to go to now...what do you guys suggest?

darth massacre

April 9th, 2005, 10:30 PM

Toss a coin lad. I dunno which is better or worse.

JJH

April 9th, 2005, 10:45 PM

Yea um. Sheridan's Illustration program is already quite good.. but I also heard that OCAD's was nice too.

I don't know either.. lol.. like he said. toss a coin?

But another thing you can consider is, the people you will be studying with.
At Sheridan, a lot of people are work-a-holics (so I think). You'll make some friends and all of you will push each other to do better and better.
Then at OCAD, I heard their interest/passion level in their art studies is generally not as high.

I think the the program at Sheridan costs a lot more.

It's in Oakville, and you need a car to get to places that are more fun.

OCAD is downtown Toronto, i'm sure there is a lot of fun there =D. CHina town food! T_T

You should try to ask others out there for opinions.

gl on ur decision

endregan

April 9th, 2005, 10:53 PM

thisisdu- one of my friends currently in the illustration program now at sheridan college was previously at ocad for illustration. The program at OCAD is a lot more like design, you graduate with a bachelor of design and so it isnt as focused in illustration really. There is barely any life drawing compared to sheridan extra life drawing every day except sunday and the program wasn't as good, which is why my friend came to sheridan. I guess it depends, I would check out both schools and see what the best choice is.

Sheridan is an awesome choice for sure :)

this_is_du

April 9th, 2005, 11:18 PM

welll right now...either way i'm screwed

sheridan would cost more and the transportation would be high too...those GO transits are quite the bitch...$200/month and it takes like 1 and half hour to get there?!?! i live near centrepoint so i have to pay the ttc to get to York then go on the GO transit

is there a cheaper way to get to sheridan? i don't have the money for rez

i would love OCAD cause i get to choose between Graphic design or illustration on 2nd year after trying out both. but i dont have a 70% in English....only a freakin 65%!!! so i would have to take summer school...which is quite the bitch again

lol

and i've never really done illustration before...my portfolio was a bunch of car drawings and a shit load of life drawings and still life drawings and 1 gouache still life painting and a whole lotta graphic design work

darth massacre

April 10th, 2005, 12:30 AM

There are apartments and rooms in townhouses scattered all over oakville within walking distance to school available. They're usually slightly cheaper than Rez.

Its not such a big issue to travel....just that you might be better off if you need to travel less. So you'd have to see which one is the lesser evil. OCAD and Sheridan both have good programs....in the end its what you do with your skills when you graduate. The important thing is if your travel time takes away time you can use to work, then it may not be worth it.

"ChEsTeR"

April 11th, 2005, 01:30 PM

Rah

April 11th, 2005, 01:52 PM

endregan

April 11th, 2005, 02:24 PM

I dont even know what illustration means or what its like. Im pretty stupid.

You need a car to get to fun places because its in oakville?? shitty. 200$ a month for transportation? Damn. Is there a skatepark near by? Do you guys get lots of homework in illustration. What types of drawing assignments and tasks do they ask you to perform?
I gotta watch my english mark. Its pretty damn low, gott bring it up. Anyone know the conditions of the conditional offer to illustration are?

Yeah your pretty much busy every single minute of the day. Of course you can slack of in some courses you dont like and likewise we all do to some degree but you at least have to be there and put some effort in. The assignments are pretty straight forward first year. If you put the time and effort in you can do it no problem.

Quite honestly I had very little knowledge of how the program was going to be and was pleasently surprised in some cases and in others no to happy hehe.

We do core, basic essential drawing skills first semester with courses such as :
conceptual process (from idea to final illus), systems (drafting, techy stuff, perspective) Design, Life drawing, painting (watercolour and acrylic), object drawing (structure, basic shapes first to finally fully rendered still life).
There is breadth courses too. You get rhetoric first semester and psychology 2nd. All in all its pretty damn solid course.

Your letter probably said cond offer you need to get 65% min average to get in and im pretty sure they follow that closely and you need to successfully graduate. Come on english isnt that bad!!! You speek good englesh, your language is engleshhhh!

this_is_du

April 11th, 2005, 03:36 PM

lol 65%...

must be a total retard to not get a 65% average in high school

but hell with English! :nohope:

i remember seeing this $20 addon sticker on the YRT monthly pass to get access to GO tranists?...anyone know anything about that? but it was like 2 years when i saw that...don't know if it still exist

darth massacre

April 11th, 2005, 08:36 PM

Yeah your pretty much busy every single minute of the day. Of course you can slack of in some courses you dont like and likewise we all do to some degree but you at least have to be there and put some effort in. The assignments are pretty straight forward first year. If you put the time and effort in you can do it no problem.

You're busy every single minute of the day only if you're Endregan. That guy is nuts, he's either always drawing or doing work. :^^: Makes me feel bad.

But that said, we do have tonnes of fun here. Honestly there's not much fun in Oakville, but then again everyone defines fun differently. Just today some of us from class went to the lake after the psychology exam and played "manhunt".....too windy for frisbee.

Chester, I'm sure you'll fit right into the skate crowd here in Sheridan. I know a lot of skaters from my class and around school. Dunno about the skate park though.

"ChEsTeR"

April 11th, 2005, 11:28 PM

cool, thanks.
If when you say you have no time because your buisy doing homework, if its mostly for the art-related classes, its no problem. Yeah the course outline for illustration looks pretty damn solid.

alxcote

April 12th, 2005, 01:23 AM

Sheridan is going to eat you all fools !!!! aaaqhgggg fgh../

endregan

April 12th, 2005, 12:33 PM

dinner friday then were all going streaking
YEAHHHH\
\
WHOSE IN!!!

Moiss

April 12th, 2005, 04:19 PM

So I got my package in the mail from Sheridan today, and I was just wondering what the "general education" classe(s) are for Art Fundamentals? I didn't know that they had that seeing as I had never seen it mentioned online or in their program books.

General Education is pretty much a lecture class.....which is IDEAS AND IMAGES, the course's name....it's basically teaching you about current affairs going on today's world...and you're gonna make a piece of art out of those topics....stuff like that.......

hope that helps......

Looking forward to everyone next year........

Anyone going to Comicon? Adi Garanov is gonna show up there as a special guest..oh well...just to say......

alxcote

April 13th, 2005, 11:59 PM

dinner friday then were all going streaking
YEAHHHH\
\
WHOSE IN!!!

I cant man, not this time. My plane leaves early the next morning, plus i have stuff to do friday. Too busy, not enough time. But next fall in september we will.. nive weather too!

alx :wink:

darth massacre

April 14th, 2005, 12:08 AM

Well if not many people are up for it then I guess we should call it off :D I got paintball in the morning and most likely a gathering at a friend's place on Friday evening.

Leave this till tomorrow evening. If the response isn't great then we'll toss it till when we come back. Tonnes of time....we have a few more years to do this :D

Qian Wang

April 14th, 2005, 05:29 AM

:nohope:
guess I will take the admission for art fundie(animation) this year. Just so worried about the visa thing....

Rah

April 14th, 2005, 06:29 AM

General Education is pretty much a lecture class.....which is IDEAS AND IMAGES, the course's name....it's basically teaching you about current affairs going on today's world...and you're gonna make a piece of art out of those topics....stuff like that.......

Ok, but I'm still a little confused, the sheet I got with my offer has General Education seperate from Ideas and Images. Both 3 credits each.

HuB

April 14th, 2005, 03:42 PM

I heard there have been some recent changes to the faculty in the animation program. Rumour is that some profs with lots of work experience but without degrees have been dropped - is that true? Anyone have a list of names?

endregan

April 14th, 2005, 04:46 PM

JERRY!! - Yeah well see. Petey said him a some of his friends may want to go and I will ask some people in my class. I wouldnt mind a tasty fricken burgerrrrrrrrr! Well see how it plays out. Just dont tire yourself out shooting at people hehehe.

alex- your leaving on a jet plane dont know if youll be back again!!!! Yeah thats quick. Guess theres no point in staying around too long after though. I will miss the silly animator. Till next year muahahaaaa

HuB- yeah since its now 4 year degree program there is some faculty changing. You need a masters to teach a degree program the government says so either you update or ship out. Its a choice but a lot of the teachers may be close to retirement anyways and getting their masters is a waste of time. I can't speak for animation but I know Illustration has hired 3 new teachers just this year and more for next year and I know for sure one of the faculty members is leaving. It happens with such a great change. Change is good though!! I Got to admit we are missing out on some great teachers though, masters doesn't say anything but "IM a piece of paper"!

Formalities....... :)

Mmmk

darth massacre

April 14th, 2005, 09:46 PM

Its not just "upgrade or ship out". The problem is two-fold. Most professional illustrators with ages of experience do not possess a qualification beyond a degree simply couldn't get it. BECAUSE THERE ISN'T SUCH A PROGRAM THAT OFFERS A MASTERS!

Bureaucrats being bureaucrats don't really have a choice but to follow rules set down by the Ontario Government.....ie, if you don't possess a masters, you cannot teach in a degree program. Of course the problem is there wasn't such a program that offers a masters in the first place. While we as artists may value the experience these great teachers offer, people who make rules - who are not part of the industry, will never understand the importance of experience transfer.

Even if they do, its hard to answer to the dozens of registered professional bodies out there....why does the art faculty get special treatment? A lot of politics involved and I can assure you guys, its not happening just in Canada. In Singapore its the same thing, which explains why a few of my CLASSMATES are teaching in the school I graduated from almost 6 yrs ago. How would you feel if your classmates (who aren't much bettere artists than you) were teaching in the degree program you are attending??

But having said that, its not all a bad thing. Well heck, for someone with over 30 yrs experience, they're bound to retire sooner or later so the rate of attrition is really not out of the ordinary. New teachers will continually be pushed into the school system, its the way things go. But of course the younger teachers (not in their mid 20s hopefully) will bring in their own experience and newer methods in the industry and it will be interesting on its own.

DINNER ON FRIDAY
We'll still be going on Friday if anyone;s interested....but I'll leave before 8pm :D Can we get a confirmation who's going?

50% more on the last drawing.

alxcote

April 15th, 2005, 01:18 PM

well, in animation i know theres like 4 teachers leaving or something..

DQ might stay, thats really unsure..he pretty much the best animator around.

Vivan is most likely leaving, retire because too old or whatever.. shes like the main teacher for 1st years, shes been here for soo long... its gonna hurt.

Berry, Storyboard teacher.. he my favorite teacher btw, hes leaving, he went to school with vivian...they both too old i guess.

Some other teacher (cant recall the name) for 3rd year is going to teach Art Fundies only now.. so byebye animation.

Then there another one too leaving because hes too old... 3rd year teacher agian so i dunno.

So yeah, all the veterans are leaving, theres going to be only yound teachers soon, and thats a total guess to everyone about how its going to end up like.
It might be for the better like it can crash, but hey.. nothing is a waste so.

HuB

April 15th, 2005, 04:24 PM

Thanks for your responses guys - much appreciated.

I guess faculty turnover could be a good thing, but I get the sense that it's too quick and it'll be significant sudden loss of experience. Losing one or two each year won't affect as much, but a wholesale shift can really make or break the program.
Alx: is losing five profs a lot? How many are there in total? Do you know where I can get a list of the current animation faculty? The Sheridan websearch doesn't narrow it down enough.

I'm still leaning towards Sheridan because of its reputation, but I want to make sure that by the time I graduate in 2009, it won't have tanked. Four years is enough time for a new reputation to form.

I'll be at the April 23rd info session. The ad said I'd have a chance to meet some of the faculty then. Anyone I should look out for in particular? Anyone I can email now to get their opinions or the inside scoop on the faculty? Who's the department head/coordinator anyways? I don't know why it's so hard to find this info online.

I also heard April 23 is the same day that the final years project screenings are - is it possible to get in to see those too or are they invitation only?

I'm kinda "old" and don't have much time (or $) to experiment with careers anymore, so if I really do jump into four years of animation, it won't be half assed. It'll be the whole ass. >:D

Does anyone know who the replacement faculty are going to be yet?

Again, all your responses are very much appreciated! Getting official info is like pulling hippo teeth with tweezers.

darth massacre

April 15th, 2005, 05:26 PM

There's an open house at about the 20th I think. So it should be an open thing for all.

Anyway, a good teacher can only share so much, but if the students aren't sucking it up like dry sponge...then it doesn't really matter how good your teachers are since the shared experience would be wasted. I've seen a lot of younger, less committed artists just skip classes and hand in the projects at the deadline....they don't even know what's going on or the what the teacher wants us to learn from a particular project. Losing the fac members with experience is a bad thing, but I think the greater sin is for the student to not learn after paying so much and spending so much time there. So I think if you push hard (and you're about my age) you should have an edge over the kids.

IbaltaxGrape

April 16th, 2005, 08:39 PM

uhh I haven't posted here before but whatever, I'm posting now to clear this up a little, from what I know, so whoever can also be aware of it as well....anyway...

alx, - i'm assuming is french Alex, this be Marko, you know me,
from what I know, Vivian is not leaving but DQ and Andrew Bodor are rumoured to be going to fundies next year, which is awful if its true, the buoracracy of animation is ridiculous. I'm really hoping that this is just a rumour because, well, I don't know anything about Andrew Bodor but DQ doesn't belong in fundies, anyone in animation knows how ridiculous that is.

however, despite that, animation this year was very good for me at least, the 3rd year films too were amazing.

Qian Wang

April 18th, 2005, 07:08 AM

Hey, guys. I am looking for roommates for this fall semester.hm..this is my information.

First name: Qian
Last name: Wang
Nationality: Chinese
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Program: Art Fundies (Animation)

I wanna live off campus with 1-3 roommates. So if someone intrested in this, just drop me a line~ :rendered:

endregan

April 18th, 2005, 01:09 PM

The Last Dinner!!!!!!! Not really but hey ;)

This is the illustration crew. My brother and Ryan just joined up for 1st year

http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/GroupPic.jpg

first row (leftside)- wildsprucemoose (Peter-lurker!), hexal-(Ryan), me, Ashley, Mark, Center- Matt

2nd row from front (Rightside) - Jerry!!! (Darthmassacre), Dave, Szasha, Peter Chan (Lurker!! Come post eh!)

good times.

Moiss

April 18th, 2005, 10:53 PM

hey, nice picture, Endregan..........too bad i can't join you guys this time.............

alxcote

April 19th, 2005, 01:29 AM

so... many of'em..so many.. illustrators.

my eyes !!!! :P

nice picture guys, too bad i wasnt there

alx

darth massacre

April 19th, 2005, 01:55 AM

Yeah, we don't even need so many animators.....Alex would just own us all....

Well maybe not Endregan or myself but.....you guys get the point :dur:

Qian Wang

April 19th, 2005, 11:45 AM

:^^: hey, is there anyone who will enroll in art fundie(animation) this fall? :teeth:

endregan

April 19th, 2005, 08:50 PM

hey if anyones interested theres a room in our townhouse thats gonna be available for next year.

Its in a nice townhouse with 3 male illustrators including myself, 25 min walk from school, close to dominion and buses.

Let me know and Ill give you further info.

this_is_du

April 19th, 2005, 09:06 PM

how much?

i dunno yet though...do any of you know how long it takes to get to sheridan by the go bus at york university?

tweak_hp

April 19th, 2005, 09:26 PM

does anyone know wut time we're supposed to be at this thing on saturday?...i can't seem to find any of my info on it

darth massacre

April 19th, 2005, 10:06 PM

I might be moving house, but if I'll let you guys know if I'm there.

Rah

April 19th, 2005, 10:20 PM

does anyone know wut time we're supposed to be at this thing on saturday?...i can't seem to find any of my info on it

I'm pretty sure it's 10:30am....but I don't know WHERE we're supposed to go there.

this_is_du

April 20th, 2005, 09:20 AM

does anyone know where the bursary forms are? i can't seem to find them

i only found the 2003-2004 forms on the sheridan website

HuB

April 20th, 2005, 01:12 PM

does anyone know where the bursary forms are? i can't seem to find them

i only found the 2003-2004 forms on the sheridan website

I don't think it's available yet. Even OSAP's online application for Fall 2005 won't be available until the end of April. Try calling the financial aid office.http://www1.sheridaninstitute.ca/acad/faqs.html

Rah, tweak: check the website, I'm not sure what your programs are, but it's 10 am for animation. No info on where it is, but I imagine there'll be signs. Just show up earlier if you can and look around.

You can try calling too, but it's hard to figure out who you're supposed to ask. Their phone system really sucks if you don't know who you're looking for since they never have any human operators you can ask - if you press the operator option, it just tells you there's no one available and hangs up. :dur:

Good luck.

HuB

April 20th, 2005, 01:14 PM

I heard there are some screenings for final year animation projects this weekend. Anyone know if it's true - and if it's open to the public? If so, what time(s) are the screenings?
Thanks!

endregan

April 20th, 2005, 04:12 PM

Have fun at the open house.

I started up a forum for illustrators to post. The animators already have a forum posted by third years so I thought we could use our own! Animators are certainly welcome though.

Its nothing spectacular yet but its a start. You never know what may happen.

http://www.visiblesurface.com/sheridan/

Even if your not in illustration you can talk with other students, ask questions and just have fun.

I wont be able to make it to the open house but have a good time guys...

darth massacre

April 21st, 2005, 07:50 PM

Current Students. Grades are out!

Current battle with Endregan....he's got more As than me, but I have a slightly higher GPA :dur:

this_is_du

April 21st, 2005, 09:16 PM

what kinda courses do you have for first year?

what are the art exams like? draw a picture? lol

tweak_hp

April 22nd, 2005, 05:23 PM

i phoned...10 am tomorrow...see ya there...goes to 12, but the art shows are open to people after that so i'll probly stick around

this_is_du

April 22nd, 2005, 06:19 PM

i'm going to the OCAd one tommorow

there's no bus going to sheridan on weekends...have fun!

Rah

April 23rd, 2005, 04:33 PM

Just got back from Oakville and the information session...did anyone else find that it really wasn't THAT informative? I think everything they talked about I already knew.

darth massacre

April 23rd, 2005, 07:22 PM

LOL, hey don't be too upset. You'll find out more when you come aboard.

Who did you talk to? Joe Morse?

alxcote

April 23rd, 2005, 11:07 PM

Just got back from Oakville and the information session...did anyone else find that it really wasn't THAT informative? I think everything they talked about I already knew.

information as what?.. what you're going to do in your course?

In my opinion it doesn't matter all that much, it's what you do of your time and how much you will push yourself during that year that's going to make a difference in the end. Illustration, animation, interior design.... meh, all the same really. Youre gonna get the basics like how to hold your ruler and make some nifty little cubes. But in the end you might end up being a producer for some movie production firm thing. Whats gonna matter, is how much you push yourself in your spare time, after hours at home working on your assignments and then on your personal stuff.

If it's about anything else then, i'm way off heh.

...ouuuhhh, by the way, almost 1000 posts on the Sheridan thread!! (who will be the ONE to take it!?)

:blahblah:

HuB

April 24th, 2005, 02:38 AM

Just got back from Oakville and the information session...did anyone else find that it really wasn't THAT informative? I think everything they talked about I already knew.

a sheridan staff member who shall remain nameless told me over the phone not to bother with the info session as it "won't be very informative" although she specifically said she didn't want to discourage me from going... i guess she was right :S

oh well, did you at least get to see some student film screenings and look around campus?

HuB

April 24th, 2005, 02:45 AM

information as what?.. what you're going to do in your course?

In my opinion it doesn't matter all that much, it's what you do of your time and how much you will push yourself during that year that's going to make a difference in the end. Illustration, animation, interior design.... meh, all the same really. Youre gonna get the basics like how to hold your ruler and make some nifty little cubes. But in the end you might end up being a producer for some movie production firm thing. Whats gonna matter, is how much you push yourself in your spare time, after hours at home working on your assignments and then on your personal stuff.

I've been told the same by everyone I know who's graduated from there, and it sounds like good advice. Jump through all the hoops you have to in order to graduate (proves you can cut it in the corporate cogwheel world), but it's up to you to decide what you're going to spend most of your energy on to excel - whether in class assignments or personal projects.

otoh, i imagine great teachers and great peers can really help create an atmosphere where you want to excel and push yourself even further. doing life drawing in a studio where most folks are hobbyists instead of artists doesn't really help spur you on to bigger and better things. just look at my sketchthread... three months of near stagnation.

Rah

April 24th, 2005, 11:19 AM

oh well, did you at least get to see some student film screenings and look around campus?

I did get to see a couple screenings and some examples of students work, it was amazing. :)

information as what?.. what you're going to do in your course?

Like just general information about what I'd be doing next year, like what classes I'd be taking, what the shedueling was like, etc.

I think the only thing I really saw that I hadn't was I got to see the residence. :\ I'd really like to live off campus but within a short walk but my Dad insists we wait until we find out if I get into res and I'm worried that by that time all the good close places will be gone.

Who did you talk to? Joe Morse?

I don't know, if he was one of the student tour guide people, then maybe. The dude that took my group around was named Joe.

P.s. !!! ooOOOoo I'm 1000! :P hehe