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::EPIC::
September 9th, 2004, 09:15 AM
I'll look for you tomorrow in Painting class at 11am =) I sure as hell noticed the girl with that crazy hair. Maybe I should do something like that? =P Ryan and I both presented. I was the guy talking about fightclub with BF Skinner running someone's lobe through. Ryan was robot/tree man =) See ya tomorrow.

Hey yea, i remember your presentation dude very nice. I think you were wearing green or somthing like that.. I think we might only share the lecture, today im in 2D Design at 11. Take it easy!

Moiss
September 9th, 2004, 02:46 PM
I need the stuff also for next week for Painting class, the teacher is Eric Brittan. If I don't get the stuff, I'm gonna be a dead meat next week. He told us to buy somekind of a board 11" by 14" inches, but I don't know what kind of board he wanted us to buy, and also some rags and 2 containers. I looked up the bookstore and I did find a board but not so sure, cuz I don't wanna buy the wrong board. And Mike Walsh told us also to buy the primary red, yellow, and blue "Artist Gouache", the bookstore sells it around $6 something for each tube, and It's not even "Artist Gouache" it's "Designer Gouache." And I still don't know where to buy it....... :nohope:
Loomis and Currys are too far from Sheridan, cuz I Walk, have no bike...:(

Anyone been to fundies before please help me!!!

::EPIC::
September 9th, 2004, 05:43 PM
I need the stuff also for next week for Painting class, the teacher is Eric Brittan. If I don't get the stuff, I'm gonna be a dead meat next week. He told us to buy somekind of a board 11" by 14" inches, but I don't know what kind of board he wanted us to buy, and also some rags and 2 containers. I looked up the bookstore and I did find a board but not so sure, cuz I don't wanna buy the wrong board. And Mike Walsh told us also to buy the primary red, yellow, and blue "Artist Gouache", the bookstore sells it around $6 something for each tube, and It's not even "Artist Gouache" it's "Designer Gouache." And I still don't know where to buy it....... :nohope:
Loomis and Currys are too far from Sheridan, cuz I Walk, have no bike...:(

Anyone been to fundies before please help me!!!

Yup had Eric yesterday, he's a cool fellow... ya what he mentioned to us about the board i couldn't find on curry's site. The only thing close to it was too big but i think it was the quality he wanted...so im not entirely sure what to do...might buy it from the sheridan store...but im gonna ask the curry ppl and see if they have some stock on hand which might be the size im looking for.... sometimes companies don't post all current stock to websites cause they know it will move in the store. As far as the gouache, i don't 'think' there is a difference, might be the binder in the tube... but i think both are acceptable...unless someone heard otherwise... just had mike from 2D Design so its fresh in my mind

JJH
September 9th, 2004, 07:51 PM
I need the stuff also for next week for Painting class, the teacher is Eric Brittan. If I don't get the stuff, I'm gonna be a dead meat next week. He told us to buy somekind of a board 11" by 14" inches, but I don't know what kind of board he wanted us to buy, and also some rags and 2 containers. I looked up the bookstore and I did find a board but not so sure, cuz I don't wanna buy the wrong board. And Mike Walsh told us also to buy the primary red, yellow, and blue "Artist Gouache", the bookstore sells it around $6 something for each tube, and It's not even "Artist Gouache" it's "Designer Gouache." And I still don't know where to buy it....... :nohope:
Loomis and Currys are too far from Sheridan, cuz I Walk, have no bike...:(

Anyone been to fundies before please help me!!!

ALthough I have a different Painting1 teacher than you, I was told to get the same size painting board. It's called a Canvas Board, it's thin. My teacher let us purchase either that or the book of thinner canvas sheets. I purchased mine at the Sheridan Store, and the board that you are looking for (if I am correct), is there.

darth massacre
September 11th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Here is evidence we met up at least once before school started!


:bashful:


http://www.digitalcreme.com/~jerry/conceptart_meet.jpg


The drawings we did that day will come in soon....as soon as I got it downloaded off "Huey".


Lets hope the 2nd turnout will be much better. Met Kenny for the first time just now too... :) Now I know where they live!!! (10 mins walk from where I live) :bashful:

endregan
September 11th, 2004, 08:41 PM
Ahhh the start of something beautiful.

Lets see when is a good time next week for another meet up :). What aboot saturday afternoon, or like thursday night, how is everyone elses schedule like ?

Moiss
September 11th, 2004, 10:21 PM
WOW.....the picture was nice.....:), where did you guys actually meet up? What room? I think it was at Annie Smith building if I'm not mistaken?

Darth and Huey: I'm terribly sorry I can't be with you guys this weekend..but I will for the next time...

btw, JJH: I think I saw you at the painting class....but not sure though....:P

For the next meeting, I'm looking forward to it, I actually got Thursday off....probably I can make it this time.

darth massacre
September 11th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Moiss, I think there are like 2 Curry's store in Toronto...one downtown closeby to OCAD. Maybe you should try checking it out next time you visit your aunt.


I'm not going that far away to get my supplies....I'll call for a delivery.


I don't think I'll be headed to Loomis for now unless in an emergency.....Curry's is soooo much cheaper!!

JJH
September 12th, 2004, 12:12 AM
Moiss: You saw me? Lol really? My painting class is in A112.

darth massacre: I live in Toronto myself. I also know of two Curry art stores. One is near where I live at a very Chinese plaza/shopping area. The other is nearby Sheridan. I believe the store you are referring to that is near OCAD is not Curry. That store is called Above Ground Art Supplies, but they also have very very good prices.

YEA I am looking forward to the next meeting. I did not get to attend the first one. I recently went to the caf to sketch with my roommate but was stupified when we saw nobody there, and realized that the caf was closed -__- .

Oh one more thing, can yo u guys leave your MSN e-mail so I can add you guys? If you don't use MSN then it's ok. I got Jack and Pete on my list now =D. If any of you play CS 1.6 then give me a holla. EPIC!! I know you play cs, I went to your server several times when I saw your name in the Player list info, but whenever I enter you're not in!.. lol.. what's with that..?

softdrawer
September 12th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Haha cool pic DM. 8)

JJH : alxcote@hotmail.com (i don't have internet, don't expect much activity) :rolleyes:

I'm down for another meeting. Maybe next weekend? ..or during the week? (if so it'd have to be after school)

::EPIC::
September 12th, 2004, 07:58 PM
JHH, ill be on the CW servers under DeathDealer tonight, its 8pm now...server 2 at present, but when i can i go over to 1 where most the 1337 hangout

::EPIC::
September 12th, 2004, 08:11 PM
in server 1 now

IbaltaxGrape
September 13th, 2004, 12:40 AM
Moiss, I wouldn't worry too much about what type of board it is you need in Eric's class, it's either canvas board or regular illustration board that you can get at the bookstore. I had Eric last year and he's pretty lenient about that sort of stuff and it's the first painting so it'll probably be pretty bad anyway, I know mine was. I remember it seemed really daunting the first few weeks having to keep track of all the materials you had to buy and bring to class but I eventually got the hang of it, ofcourse not after forgetting something seemingly every day. I once forgot my entire kit at home (I commuted 2 hours). I didn't even realize until I got to school. Hmm..maybe it's just me.

Have fun in Bill's 3D class, people in the picture, I would avoid talking to him if you can, he's a nice guy but he never, never shuts up. That class is kind of a waste if you're not going into crafts.

::EPIC::
September 13th, 2004, 01:18 PM
Yeah i got word before from a repeating student about the likes of Bill :) Luckily i have a woman for 3D...her name escapes me at the momment. But as far as the class as a waste, depending on your interests, but for some people to understand form and structure and how to go about creating it, it's easier handling it by hand...

Yeah, as far as supplies go, i could find on 15x20 PPk illustration board at curry's....pure madness there, so i guess ill be cutting stock down to size lol

Moiss
September 14th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Hey guys, I got so many assignments to do...very exhausting...

JJH: My Paint. Class is in A110 it's beside your paint. class.
Anyway, you know a Curry store around Sheridan...I wonder where that is and how to get there by bus, what number?

Darth: You went to Loomis store? my 2D Design teacher just told us that, I think, Loomis is having a sale for the next few days, but not sure when though, damn I bought the gouache for $6, I think Loomis sells it for $3 for this upcoming sale..

darth massacre
September 14th, 2004, 07:48 PM
Yeah the bookstore....they sell masking tape for $4....I think that pretty much sums up the pricing schemes there. :D

JJH
September 14th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Moiss: Sorry, I do not know exactly where Currys' is, I only know that there IS one around.

Grr.. I'm loaded with Assignments now.
Gotta do achromatic figure painting, homework assignment 3-still life paintings, 2d-design 3 sheet line/shape/texture assignment.. AHHHHHH

endregan
September 15th, 2004, 03:49 PM
There is the currys in mississauga which is 10 minutes by car from Oakville more or less. If anyone has a car speak up, we could take a trip every once in a while down to stock up !

Anyone good for a meet on saturday at like 2pm? Meet main entrance? Bring a friend or two, tell them about it! I am just suggesting a date, but friday nights are rather hectic after classes and busy night times for some of us so Saturday is pretty prime for a meeting.

WildSpruceMoose
September 15th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Hey Moiss, I was sitting right next to you in extra life drawing today. So hey! JJH, and us should say hey at the breaks next time =P

endregan
September 15th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Just found out extra life drawing is on saturday 1-4pm which I wanted to go to , but we could still have a meet at that time just I cant make it.

Or maybe later on like saturday night?

::EPIC::
September 15th, 2004, 09:27 PM
Hey all, just workin on the line/shape/texture assignment for 2D Design. Quick question if anyone knows, is it possible to mount your texture sheet onto a foam board for support, i just figure with heavy objects, etc it will buckle...i plan on doin it this way..but im fearful of losin marks lol... :[

JJH
September 15th, 2004, 11:55 PM
EPIC: If I were you, I'd stick to the specifications DEAD on.

darth massacre
September 16th, 2004, 01:05 AM
I'll get back to you guys on the saturday meet on Thrusday night.

Might join Huey on the trip to Niagara Falls. Since I've never been here before.


Anyway if I'm not going, I want to try for the 1-4pm extra life drawing too. So...heh.

I'll let you guys know more tomorrow.

darth massacre
September 17th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Neither myself nor Huey are going to Niagara Falls on the saturday. But I might join Endregan (Jack) for extra life. Either that or I'll hop by wal-mart for some stuff I might need....its getting colder....


So if we're meeting up, what time and when? And who's coming!?!?!

Red Mimic
September 18th, 2004, 12:03 AM
I'm alive!

After Bell screwed me over a few times,I finally have the net in my house. Was using the computer labs for awhile but that's it.

Enjoying most of my classes,went to 2 of the extra life drawing sessions so far. One for the full thing, and the second for just 45 minutes. I think i'll drop in late onsome if I don't wanna do so many gesture drawings. Also it thinned out later on when they started to do the 30minute poses in the final hour.

JJH
September 18th, 2004, 12:54 AM
Lol.
Oh hey guys I can't go to a meeting on Saturday, I have to go home.

Yea extra-life has been helpful for me
I've been to ever session full-time (3hours) so far.. Except for the first Monday Session because my scheduale does not allow me to.

Oh lol. I am scared to go the animation halls at the moment. I snuck into the animation life drawing a few days ago with my roommate (in animation). I was all ready to start drawing when an old prof went around to ask people which program they were from because it was crowded and i guess they arrange people in order of program year. So yea, he got to me and I don't know why I didn't lie, perhaps I thought that he might find out in the long run since I'll go to animation the next year, and hunt me down. Yes, all of that went through my head before I answered. I packed and went to the fundies session, WOW saw this black guy who was really good.

Moiss
September 19th, 2004, 01:03 AM
WildSpruceMoose: Oh really? I'm sorry I didn't notice you. We should say hey next time. :)

Damn, I missed it again. Can't really check the forum regularly though because I don't have any comp. to use, I'm getting a Laptop probably around next week. Can't wait to get it.

About the extra life drawing classes, I think they have special classes doing the life drawing only for art fundies students (I don't really know)? I think it was at room A107 & A108 only. Anyway, anyone know what days they are having the life drawing classes? cuz I forgot that I think Todd was telling us they have it like on Tuesday to Thursday? (not so sure) I'm gonna need more extra life drawing classes. :)

Has anyone seen the Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow?

JJH
September 19th, 2004, 04:29 PM
Moiss: Hey man. I'll give you the times for Art Fundies extra-life drawing.

monday
room A107
11am-2pm and 2pm-5pm

tuesday/wednesday
room A108
3pm-6pm

thursday
room A107
6pm-9pm

Moiss
September 19th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Thanks for the schedule JJH. Are you also looking forward to attend all of the classes?

::EPIC::
September 22nd, 2004, 08:27 PM
im in a muddle over the extra life, JJh is that specific to your class or everyone. I only managed to get out of Brenda Thursday at 6pm ....I'm in AF-H

Is there extra life painting specificly for painting or just in gesture time based drawing in 107 and 108...

Nayuki
September 22nd, 2004, 08:37 PM
actually.. the extra life drawing sessions aren't actually classes ^^;; like.. you won't have a teacher there to check out your work or teach you anything.. you basically just go in and just draw.. i've been to pretty much almost all of the life drawing sessions since it started on the second week :}

and about the times that JJH posted for the extra life drawing sessions.. they are open to all art fundies students.. although animation and illustration students come by and draw in there too.. try to get to the rooms for the extra life draw sessions a bit earlier than when it says it starts.. lately it's been really crowded in there and not enough space for everyone :(

and to answer another question.. basically what most people do in extra life is do life drawing.. so no figure painting.. the sessions start off with short guestures working from 30 secs, to 1 min, 2 min, 5 min, and so on to 20 min..

oh.. and before i finish off this post.. about the 1-4 PM extra life drawing on Saturday that endregan mentioned.. i've heard it's only for illustration students.. maybe i may try sneaking in one day when i stay in oakville for the weekend.. although it wouldn't be too great to get kicked out (since i'm in art fundies).. just like JJH got kicked out of animation :nohope:

JJH
September 22nd, 2004, 08:48 PM
Yea, I am afraid of sneaking into another program extra-life session now. When I got kicked out of the animation one, I had a small crowd of people staring at me, it was, bad.

There are actually OPEN extra-life drawing classes for any art student at sheridan to attend. It goes from 7-10 in the Illustration wing. I believe it is A131 or something, there is a sheet/scheduale listed beside the door there. Once again, get there at least 10 minutes early.

Nayuki
September 22nd, 2004, 08:51 PM
hey Jeff (JJH)..
is the open extra life run on Saturdays and Sundays too? or only Mon-Fri.. I forgot what the schedule said ;___;

::EPIC::
September 22nd, 2004, 09:00 PM
Thanks guys, yeah i havn't had the chance to budget my time to add in the extra life drawing....somthing thing i should REALLY be doing, cause it is all about millage in the end. I've had the bad habbit of escaping from classes as soon as they are finished, which in the end hurts me more. I'll try and be in there for thursdays work

time to buy another gesture pad! :)

JJH
September 22nd, 2004, 09:17 PM
i believe only mon to fri

Red Mimic
September 24th, 2004, 12:05 PM
They thin out pretty well about half way through to 2 hours in. The one last night was down to maybe 5 people when I left (got there late since I didn't feel like doing gestures, I had just had a life drawing class earlier). Gettin there later seems to work though since some people just want to do the extended poses and those are at the end.

Same applies to the gym, any time after 9 and its dead. 2 other people were in there last night and that was just for the treadmill, stair stuff.

Thunder Blossom
September 24th, 2004, 07:09 PM
Hey, does anyone know about extra life drawing for animation students on Saturdays? I heard from someone that there will be sessions now from 1 PM - 4 PM... but I didn't get any official word of it. Just wanna know before I go all the way to Oakville just to find out that there's nothing going on ;o

Thanks~

softdrawer
September 24th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Long time no post..

I've seen a few of you fellas around, as well as in some life drawing after hour classes ( sorry if i couldnt join in, i had things to do ).

Damn, friday nights in Oakville are long for christ sake. Not only this was the worst day of my life but its almost 8pm and i have to go grocery shoppin now.. suicide? ..no? ;)

im going to school tomorow just to work on my assignments.. soo many... sooo many.

:O

See you around poopers. :wink:

JJH
September 24th, 2004, 10:53 PM
Hah.
Yes I feel your pain, sort of, softdrawer.
My roommate is in animation and he usually comes with me to my home but this time he has to stay at school to finish lots of work.

darth massacre
September 25th, 2004, 12:15 AM
Alex, you could call the few of us up...I live pretty near Kenny, Jack and Pete. I think you're somewhere in the neighbourhood too....I was thinking maybe we could do DVD weekends or something. Who's got a DVD player? >:D

See you in school then.

endregan
September 25th, 2004, 03:29 PM
if anyone is up for a movie tonight drop me a line eh

darth massacre
September 26th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Geez where were the rest of you guys >:D You folks missed out on Endregan's "Chris Rock" impersonation....he's pretty good. :bashful:

Thunder Blossom
September 27th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Well, today was fun... anyone pick up some artbooks or comics?

Got Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter - Official Design Materials... the sparkly cover could not be resisted @_@... an impulse buy, considering that I had little idea about the quality of the inside contents since all the copies were plastic wrapped...

endregan
September 27th, 2004, 06:27 PM
oh man so many awesome books. TOITT

I saw spectrum 1 for 44 bucks, not thta I would buy it, too much.

I might buy like one good book and have to hold back on the rest, I mean we are in college guys haha

I didnt have money on me but I hope it is still on wednesday because I have tuesday off.

Nayuki
September 27th, 2004, 06:48 PM
the Labyrinth booksale is one for the whole week.. well according to the guy when i asked him =D

I was thinking of buying Yukiru Sugisaki's NEUTRAL artbook.. since it was for $50.. (somewhat cheaper for an artbook).. but i decided against it.. too much money just for a book.. even though it's filled with pretty illustrations ^^;;

hopefully they will have more and diff selection tmw and during the rest of the week.. i have a feeling that by the time i got there today.. alot of stuff was already picked up ^^;;

JJH
September 27th, 2004, 10:11 PM
nayuki, u couldn't find a lot of the books.. because i bought them all already MAUAHAHAHAHAHAH

:^^;:

Nayuki
September 27th, 2004, 10:13 PM
;o;~~~
jjh~ I'm going to become your new window stalker now... and stalk you for all those artbooks >:D

Moiss
September 27th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Yeahh right, the books are all awesome, I feel like I wanna buy it all. Anyway, been busy all the week, always homeworks....

darth massacre
September 28th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Bought an anatomy book. I didn't really need it coz I already had an anatomy book! :frustrated:

Saw most of the stuff at a glance. The unfortunate thing is most of the titles I like on display...I already have em at home....AT HOME IN SINGAPORE!!!! :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: ARGH!!!!

Nayuki
September 28th, 2004, 07:51 PM
death massacre.. i really envy you and your books that are back in Singapore..
today.. I blew $75 on the Katsuya Terada artbooks.. the one that's 300 pages, squareshaped, and has a brownish cover..
I couldn't resist the art style, painting, and designs in there ^^;;... kinda wondering if it was really worth it to get it now as it was an impulse spend... but i realized after I got home and checked up on it.. that this book and those other Katsuya Terada books are supposed to come in a cardboard slipcase.. what's the deal with no cardboard slipcase???
also my book is slightly damaged.. i tried exchanging it in but the other copy they had had an injury in it too.. and the asian woman at the front was getting pissed off at me by saying it's already on discount from $100... right...... >.> (cuz i should get even more of a discount for imperfect good rights?)..
anyhow.. I still like the art alot..and it's an excellent purchase in terms of reference and style :)

Hexal
September 28th, 2004, 09:20 PM
I too broke down and bought a book, I got "Rusted Lung" by Jerome Opena, its very nice, 1 of 200 printed they say. I cant find much of him on the internet. its a great book though, for 15 i would defenitly look it up. :}

darth massacre
September 28th, 2004, 10:35 PM
I blew $75 on the Katsuya Terada artbooks.. the one that's 300 pages, squareshaped, and has a brownish cover..


You got the RakugaKING book eh or issit Painterbon?? Yeah it comes with a slip on cardboard cover. I saw the cover of Rakugaking (no book) in a box when I was snooping around :p She's not too far off about the price though. Its about SG$100 and CAD$75 (lemme convert....holy cow) its about SG$99. We get it back home at about $99 too.

There's also another Terada comic book. Its translated as Monkey King in chinese (that's what we got back home) and its in french. I'm not sure how much is it, but its in french.....(dammit) so I didn't get it.

I've got most of the anime concept art books back home....its in a box ready to ship...but I figure I don't need it for the moment.


And errr...Nayuki....its DARTH Massacre :D

Nayuki
September 28th, 2004, 10:40 PM
actually.. i got the Zenbu one..

oh and sorry about getting your name wrong ^^;;.. I've been really tired lately and not getting enough sleep.. i'm really slow ;___;

softdrawer
September 29th, 2004, 12:49 AM
They didnt have any of my fav. french comics.. sooooo disapointed. ugh.

The entire show was... worthless. (to me) :yawn:

gotta run !

:eyecandy: :cheerleader:





... (holy shiat, thats smiley is ghey)

anyway, good night (its like 1am er smthin... im too tired to even type.) (wait now im typing bull**it on a public forum.. ... ...myehehe dfsgsdfgsdgsdfgsdfgsdfgsdfgsdfgsdgsdf)




(i used to be sane) ..animation isnt good for health issues.




:perv:



edit: god damn, my post is fukcing long for my left nut sake and has no purpose what so ever.. glad i wasted 10 seconds to who ever just read this.




hava good time now..

myello


EDIT 2 : damn sorry about this message.. i was really tired yesterday hah. I stayed at school till like midnight today and there was a LOT of people at the pub.. the line was huuuuge. (i didnt go though, it was like the kinky/skank night er something, just too scary for my taste)


So whats up anyway, i rarely ever see any of you guys now.. you like vanished. ( or we, animation people, are lab rats..) . ill try to pass by the fundies classrooms at one point just to skean a few of you out.

havagoodone !

:vodkamachine:

darth massacre
October 2nd, 2004, 12:16 AM
Alex...you used to be sane? :teeth:


I thought most of us here suffers from temporary sanity?



Anyways, we really SHOULD meet up one of these weekends....maybe just before Saturday's Extra life drawing.

JJH
October 2nd, 2004, 02:02 AM
*cries* I just want WOrld of Warcraft!!!

Nayuki
October 2nd, 2004, 10:46 AM
*cries* I just want WOrld of Warcraft!!!

NO JJH... say NO to the evil temptation of games ;____;
we all must work hard while Sheridan cracks its spiked whip at us~~

Hexal
October 2nd, 2004, 05:34 PM
*cries* I just want WOrld of Warcraft!!!

HA!, i have that, i havent played it in a couple months. It is good stuff though :perv:

darth massacre
October 2nd, 2004, 08:48 PM
we all must work hard while Sheridan cracks its spiked whip at us~~



FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR!!!

softdrawer
October 3rd, 2004, 12:22 AM
Whats up with the whole game thing anyway.. i find it so lame and useless.. i only have tetris and im glad. And my computer cant run fo shit.

This past week was total late style for me.. been staying at school till 2am for the past 3 days working on my stuff or being molested by the 3rd years.

I just got back from school and its passed midnight and i got nothing to do. I know for a fact that if i go to bed i wont be able to sleep cuz my roomate snores like a fukcing train passing by my head. I can even feel the damn vibrations from it. Speaking so, thats what happened yesterday, i went back home at like 3am after i went to eat something with my buddy, got to bed, cou;dnt sleep till about 6am when the bastard finaly woke up and it was calm enought to sleep. today i woke up at 6pm, had a breakfast before i ran again to school to finish up my last assignments.

man this is funny..

yeah i just felt like typing that crap

:confident

JJH
October 3rd, 2004, 10:13 PM
Hexal: YOUUU!!! YOU!!!! grrrr lucky u..

softdrawer: Man I laughed so loud when I read your post about your roommate's snoring. Ahah. I suggest some kind of ear plugs =p.

endregan
October 4th, 2004, 02:31 PM
yeah

I was thinking of maybe sometime soon we could have a get together, rent a movie or go out or something on the weekend. That is if we dont end up sitting around doing homework all the time.

what do you think, obviously not this weekend since its thanksgiving :)

darth massacre
October 5th, 2004, 04:13 PM
Meet up and do homework?


That could work! :D It'd be like going to class on Saturdays!!!




Yeah movie's a good idea....though I'd love to watch it at the theatre one of these days.....Ladder 49 sounds really promising.



How's everyone's sanity these days?

WildSpruceMoose
October 5th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Good idea on a meet ;) I don't know about ladder 49, but there are some movies still in theatres I'd like to catch before they leave...namely shaun of the dead, but whatever =)

My sanity is holding up...although some of the assignments frsutrate me or give me too much spare. Then again I've been using my spare time to do some studies, yay!

softdrawer
October 6th, 2004, 01:19 AM
Fukc man.. ..it's 1am, again. Can we ever die of a wakeuptoolong disease? Damn i wouldnt be surprised the last bit. At least im done like 90% of my assignments now and i almost hit the 3 digits on my art history test.

Anyway... i know the fukcer is snoring at this very moment before i even go check. I don't even feel like going up to my room, id rather get pissed out of my face and crashout on the kitchen floor so i wouldnt feel the pain.

Yo i dont even know what thanks giving is in the first place.. i thought it was like christmas or something.. soo confused.

Id be down fer a mooovay er something alike during weekend but since its soooo "special" to everyone ill go lonely stile in my room all the way..or go work at school like a die-hard-nerd-piece-of-rotten-sh*t.


..man i better stop writing cuz i know for a fact it will turn out into some ass whipe typo essay about nothing but meaningless crap. Im soo tired its not a joke, my head feels like a shit bucket about to be nailed by a hammer. My eyes are dry as hell and im gonna close this worthless-ass computer in 10 seconds or else i got nuts.

(sorry for the swears.. im just... stupid and french)

:moon:

darth massacre
October 7th, 2004, 07:01 PM
He ain't joking guys....I saw Alex (softdrawer) today in school and he seems... thinner. :nohope:



And err, its prolly just because you're French :bashful:

endregan
October 10th, 2004, 08:02 PM
alex - sounds like you are starting a journal hahaha

if you are not busy 90% of the time when you are at sheridan you are doing something wrong :)

if its not homework its extra life drawing, if its not that its practice and if its not that you are sleeping!

Red Mimic
October 11th, 2004, 12:12 AM
I think that wakeuptoolong disease is called exhaustion, and it can screw you up pretty good. I think your brain just eventually fails and you'll fall asleep on a bus that leads to Mexico where you will be put to work on the plantations.

I think I need to work closer to that level though, I need some better marks.

Shaun of the Dead was great, I saw it Friday when I went home. Now I have to avoid Rome, Pete knows what i'm talking about :P

darth massacre
October 13th, 2004, 05:47 PM
HEHEHE, I'm doing ok. Not the best grades ever...kinda like a B+ average so far on most of the stuff the profs have graded.....(except Object drawing which I screwed up)...Not losing any sleep yet. :D Aiming for a free and easy reading week.


I'm headed to school this saturday to finish up some stuff with Endregan. For those who have no life and are in school this weekend....how about a meetup at the cafe for lunch, say 12pm?



Oh yeah, can anyone advise on the portable heater thing? We might need one to stay back in school after hours.....I know I need one.




Oh yeah Alex....Animation is better....but also costs more :p (dammit jack, think of something to rebuke!) LOL

(animation-illustration joke.....sorry fundies :p)

softdrawer
October 14th, 2004, 12:10 AM
Hahahaha !!... i hope everyone in Illustration noticed it...since it's a fact.

By the way man, me and my buddy are making soooo many enemies from illustration its not even funny. It's all about joking though but still hahaha. ...oh yeah and also the fundies, i'm just killing those poor guys.. I feel regret some times but hey, someones gotta do it! :devil:


yeah we could meet up during the weekend but perhaps not at school ?? ... i like sheridan and all but i must be spending over 100 hours a week there for shit sake.

darth massacre
October 15th, 2004, 11:09 PM
I'll be in School with Endregan tomorrow. So err....see you guys there. If anyone is coming.

Red Mimic
October 16th, 2004, 01:38 AM
Weaseling out again, Sobeys is in control of my life it seems.

I'm there later tomorrow night after 8,9 and all of Sunday. Probably painting on Monday.

The sign has been revised, please make a note of it, Monkey...

Moiss
October 16th, 2004, 11:38 PM
Anyone know how to post an image to this forum?.....
thx

darth massacre
October 17th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Anyone know how to post an image to this forum?.....
thx

9th icon from the left just above the posting window.

Moiss
October 17th, 2004, 06:32 PM
thx....darth...I didn't notice i have to register for a web first.... :bashful:

darth massacre
October 17th, 2004, 10:01 PM
:nohope:

I had great expectations of you moiss......I really did :dur:

Moiss
October 18th, 2004, 07:02 PM
Hmmm......I don't understand what you're talking about, darth? what expectations? ...

Anyways, It's getting cold now......it's not even winter......winter....I'm gonna be freezing.......

WildSpruceMoose
October 19th, 2004, 11:53 AM
Suck it up! The weather is wonderful. I like a little chill =P When it snows for like 4 months, then I'll be complaining. Glad I don't have a car, wouldn't want to dig out the driveway and drive with black ice everywhere =)

darth massacre
October 19th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Hahaha, dude you live on residence! I've got to walk 25 mins to school everyday!!! :teeth:


Anyway Moiss....Reading week's coming up, and if you're free we should really go do some winter clothes shopping. I don't want to get it any later in case weather gets bad really quickly. I'll ask Huey to come along even though you residence folks might not need to go out at all (well you need to go get food no?). I probably would not have any additional work for reading week...everything's on schedule :D

Hopefully we can all go shopping at walmart or something. Anyone wants to come along and be our guide on what to buy and what not to? There are at least 3 winter newbies here. :teeth:

Red Mimic
October 19th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Snowboard coats are awesomely warm, and the average to best ones are insanely waterproof. That's nice once it hits the later part of winter and its wet snow. But they are good for the middle when its the nice frigid windchill. Snowboard pants are also nice since a lot of them can be worn as normal pants if you are really that cold, they are fairly light weight you won't feel too weighed down. Pajama pants are nice as well to go under whatever you wear. As for feet, who knows, i've been wearing the same type of shoes through all seasons since grade school.

Get a good toque. Hot paws make nice simple gloves as well.

If there is a sport chek or National sport around here they usually sell last years coats cheap around now before they stock up on the new stuff.

Learn to walk backwards as well...

Moiss
October 19th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Nice....thanks a lot for the info, Red Mimic.

Darth, you're right I still need to get some foods to survive.......hopefully I can come along as soon as I finished my lots of homeworks...

:)

endregan
October 19th, 2004, 09:18 PM
AHHHHHHh

darth massacre
October 20th, 2004, 03:05 AM
Its 3am....Everything's on schedule ....... everything.....on......sch...I need some sleep. 8am computer class in the morning...haven't touched a thing since last week.

WildSpruceMoose
October 23rd, 2004, 11:49 AM
Everything went right on schedule here too! I was talking to you yesterday about gloves darth. I have quite taken to the "hobo mittens" as some people call them...they turn into gloves with finger holes. I think they'll just make my life easier when I'm carrying awkward sized/shaped work to school in the winter. I should probably look into getting a new snowcoat too.

endregan
October 23rd, 2004, 12:34 PM
Halfway through first semester

Ahhhh.

JJH
October 23rd, 2004, 03:28 PM
Yea, halfway through 1st semester.

Let us all be successful =p.

E_flipmode27
October 23rd, 2004, 06:13 PM
wow haven't seen this post in quite some time. last time i posted was on the first page. neways Endregan its cool that u got into illustration and fundies and ocad! which one did u end up choosing? sorry to ask but i'm so lazy to check every page in the thread.

endregan
October 23rd, 2004, 06:55 PM
Hey! I ended up going into illustration.

It has been a long journey and is not over yet :)

Best of luck to everyone with midterm stuff eh!

E_flipmode27
October 24th, 2004, 09:06 AM
wow thats awesome!! Apparantly illustration was really hard to get into this year. Maybe ur in my friend Elise's group, she's in illustration 1st year too. She was supposed to be in 1st yr animation w/ me and my friends but she chose illustration in then end, psh whatever :nohope: neways maybe i'll c ya around at school.

darth massacre
October 24th, 2004, 03:12 PM
Elise is in my class :teeth: She's damn good with portraits.


Animation has too many topics overloaded into the first year as far as I can see. I just hope it doesn't take up so much time to the point animation students can't develop their own things. The workload is horrendous.


I dunno what to make of illustration at this point. Because most of the things I'm doing now, I did before years back in the arts college back home in Singapore. Its good to revisit those again (rusty) but I am hoping it'll provide the specific things that I want to pick up to further my job prospects.


Rhetoric is fun.....Word of advice to Fundies....read as much as you can now....and I mean read current affairs, politics, science, social issues, history and so on......(basically newspaper, everyday...its free in school, go grab your copy).....you'll need it.

X-Chan
October 24th, 2004, 03:28 PM
hey guys. it's elise
ian gave me the link to this forum. :O

rhetoric sucks.

softdrawer
October 24th, 2004, 03:59 PM
Hey people, im still in oakville.. there's no way to get out of this hole. This next week is going to be just like the previous ones. Ill have to go to school everyday working on animation stuff, paint and all the tralala. ..animation is a bitch.

At least i get more sleep lately, slept 22 hours yesterday and almost the same today.. i guess its healthy.. or is it?


See you around

alx :)

E_flipmode27
October 24th, 2004, 07:08 PM
haha find ur own forum xchan :P j/k. ur in illustration too darth? coolz! sometimes i think that i'd rather go to illustration instead but that involves painting so psh to that. we should introduce ourselves in real life sometime....u know, when my homework isn't consuming me >_<

darth massacre
October 24th, 2004, 08:09 PM
Elise, this is Jerry :teeth:

Which Ian gave you this link? Ian Herring from "E"??



Alex (softdrawer)....you just have to hang on to the (false) notion that "animation is better" :teeth:

X-Chan
October 24th, 2004, 09:04 PM
too much whining about hw. its not THAT much.

eflipmode - how are you going to handle a part time job.

hey jerry. its red mimic ian, from our class. :bashful:

darth massacre
October 25th, 2004, 02:05 AM
hey jerry. its red mimic ian, from our class. :bashful:


HOLY COW!!! HE's RED MIMIC!?!?!?!?!?!?! I'd never have guessed it! :teeth:

E_flipmode27
October 25th, 2004, 10:33 AM
hey i can handle a part-time job just fine :blah: and neways IT IS a lot of hw i mean, we barely get time to play Street fighter 3 in the pit at 1 in the morning nemore lol

endregan
October 30th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Round two, Last half of semester one

Fight!!!

darth massacre
October 30th, 2004, 07:56 PM
This week is too short! >:{

darth massacre
November 2nd, 2004, 10:37 PM
Hey guys...I'm thinking of creating a "Sheridan Sketch Thread" in the WIP forum.

Basically its just something to do outside of schoolwork. I'm for creating a world so we can populate it with creatures, characters, mechanics, architecture and so on. It could run until Christmas or beyond...then we can change a topic.

I'll talk to my classmates for some ideas tomorrow.....throw in a few chunks of thoughts here too. Let's see what we can come up with and how other institutions will react >:D

JJH
November 2nd, 2004, 11:54 PM
That idea is pretty good. However, I sketch people I see on a daily basis. I 'do' draw characters as well, but not creatures, mechanics and architecture mainly because I am focusing on People right now. However, I eventually will work on layout concepts such as skies and landscapes, all that stuff. So it's all cool..

darth massacre
November 3rd, 2004, 01:02 AM
Well, get cracking then! :painting: :wink:


I bet you guys have already learned a whole load of stuff, so lets put them into good use already!

JJH
November 3rd, 2004, 11:39 AM
hahaa...
darth are u in fundies as well?

darth massacre
November 3rd, 2004, 04:17 PM
Nope....I'm in Illustration 1st year with Endregan, Red Mimic, X-Chan and heck that's it I guess....we need more folks in here!



Anyway here's my recent thread in WIP...... Comic Book Test (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32952) crits are most welcome :teeth:

Rema
November 3rd, 2004, 11:09 PM
howdyy... this is Amer, i just signed up here. I love the idea of this project sounds like fun so count me in plz... and im also in first year illustration with darth massacre... w00t :wink:

darth massacre
November 3rd, 2004, 11:13 PM
Glad you signed up man....now we'll just have to convert the rest of the class.

Moiss
November 9th, 2004, 07:55 PM
Hey, Darth does the "Comic Test" Forum has to be a progress of pictures making a comic or can we just post any images?

I like the last one of your drawing........Superb.....! :)

darth massacre
November 9th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Hahaha...dude...that's my own sketchbook....


I guess anyone here can start a thread for our own Sheridan Sketchbook. Gotta come up with a theme first though.



Red Mimic suggested an Arctic environment for starters, maybe set it in pre medival fantasy........anyone has any objections?

endregan
November 11th, 2004, 10:05 PM
GOing to art college is like eating a lot of candy.

Its really bad for you but soo good

endregan
November 12th, 2004, 03:27 PM
Going to art college is like eating a tasty bacon cheeseburger and fries at Swiss Chalet

JJH
November 12th, 2004, 07:17 PM
or instant noodle...

Moiss
November 13th, 2004, 05:28 PM
Red Mimic suggested an Arctic environment for starters, maybe set it in pre medival fantasy........anyone has any objections?

Not at all, so........when? how?.

oh...btw anyone seen the WoW trailer.....It's really WOW!!!!!

darth massacre
November 16th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Ok folks...this is project week for 1st Yr Illustration guys so I'm a little tied up. The animation guys are always busy anyway so I don't think we'll be getting much input from them. No seriously....they're BUSY.....just ask Softdrawer.

Plus, I was saving the arctic environment painting on saturday when Painter 8 crashed on me.....so pissed off I'm not doing it again until I finished my projects and my rhetoric exam and research on the weekend.

If anyone wants to post something up to kick off the thing please feel free to go ahead. Maybe I'll just do something tomorrow and kick it off.


And errr....get your friends in here already if you haven't done so :teeth: Strength in Numbers.

softdrawer
November 17th, 2004, 01:58 AM
...just ask Softdrawer.

yeh, i do find it quite heavy but i dont even work as much as most others in my program, some just dont have a life anymore. I can still pull off some decent grades without going insane about it.

I have midterm english exam on thursday.. :nohope:

thats going to hurt big time. (pray for me!1)

;)

Moiss
November 17th, 2004, 11:03 PM
Hey guys...I'm thinking of creating a "Sheridan Sketch Thread" in the WIP forum.

Are we still "on" on that? :)

endregan
November 18th, 2004, 02:33 PM
Its like midterm all over again..

darth massacre
November 18th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Yes we are moiss....as soon as I finish business with the projects due this week.....actually they're all done :bashful: I got that same test as with Softdrawer/endregan/red mimic tomorrow

Moiss
November 29th, 2004, 10:44 PM
I'm really Tired............................................. ..... :yawn:

endregan
December 2nd, 2004, 08:33 PM
feels like yesterday was midterms. now were into finals.

good luck everyone :)

darth massacre
December 2nd, 2004, 08:50 PM
Hey Jack,...didn't you say something about Swiss Chalet on the last day of the semester? :bashful:




No food fights please....

endregan
December 3rd, 2004, 12:30 PM
Yeah! Swiss Chalet friday 17 woooo. Maybe we could rent a movie or something too.

Whose coming :)

Moiss
December 4th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Nice............last day of school......I'm in......:)

aico003
December 5th, 2004, 02:16 AM
Wow... just read through this whole thread (no real point in asking why.. I haven't a clue) so now I'm drooling over Sheridan of course.

Before this I was pretty set on going to Concordia in Montreal because it was.. well, in Montreal. Even though it's in Ontario (shudder), Sheridan seems to be just about what I'm looking for in a school.. less fine art-ish and more towards stuff like illustration.

Not entirely sure what the purpose of this post is though.. I took the SATs this morning (for some reason) so I've been awake for about 20 hours and my coherancy is sorta going down. In an attempt to save this sinking ship of a post, how about I ask you what you current opinions of Sheridan are. Maybe a bit about the whole admissions process too? Or some stuff I could start working on now to increase my chances?.. Oh, also if anyone anywhere knows anything about Concordia that would be cool too!

Heh, thanks and sorry about this... I'll try and post again tomorrow or something when I'm.. awake?

darth massacre
December 5th, 2004, 01:06 PM
aico....Sheridan's good to me so far. I did let go of Concordia for Sheridan. :teeth:

Good thing I didn't get into OCAD too.

Red Mimic
December 10th, 2004, 12:37 AM
I guess get your application in now, the portfolios are due at the end of Feburary/start of march or something. Get to work on life drawing and perspective stuff, they gave out a drawing test to-do list last time which included a free hand drawing of a building in 2 point perspective, drawing a group of people somewhere so we know what they are doing (sporting event, dance), some sorta freehand ink drawing I think, andt he final one was taking an object then drawing it in again in some sorta interesting way (designed to test creativity), May is the earliest to hear if you were accepted I think.

It's late right now and I just finished an essay and have to present something tomorrow, so maybe someone could say more stuff.

I wonder if this thread is gonna start looping over itself, when did it start anyways?

endregan
December 10th, 2004, 04:20 PM
mimic- hey how is it going! Yeah the thread started a while back. Probably around application time of last year, so about a year old...wow time flies. Just a year ago I was thinking about applying and where to go and now I am halfway through my first semester. Crazyyy

FRIDAY DEC 17 - LAST DAY OF SCHOOL

WE ARE GOING TO CELEBRATE THAT SAME FRIDAY NIGHT

7PM - SWISS CHALET DINNER

MOVIE AND/OR VID GAMES AFTER!
I am pretty sure we can rent a movie or play vid games after Swiss Chalet at where I am staying now. I will ask my roomies.

All are welcome to the dinner and if anyone wants to do things after that is cool too.

Lets get a head count to see how many we are expecting eh!

So far its jerry, moiss, my brother, Alex ( the animator! )
Come on lets celebrate!

Any suggestions welcome :)

aico003
December 12th, 2004, 01:33 PM
Darth Massacre - That's pretty interesting, mind telling me why you chose Sheridan over Concordia?

Red Mimic - Wow.. I'm really not prepared for applications :\.. I've been slacking off so much with that stuff, still haven't filled out these guidence papers we got at the beginning of the year. Guess I better get started..

Thanks a ton for all the portfolio information stuff, really really helpful :teeth: .

darth massacre
December 12th, 2004, 01:43 PM
Darth Massacre - That's pretty interesting, mind telling me why you chose Sheridan over Concordia?


Too much snow in Montreal. No seriously, for someone coming from the tropics....I'm finding it unbearable now. And of course Concordia doesn't offer what I am looking for. I wanted a more techincal/skill based applied degree to add to my resume.


Oh yeah guys, we should start soccer weekends from next semester onwards.....I'm feeling so unfit right now after yesterday's 2 min soccer game. Red mimic was there laughing at the old fart (me) run out of breath while trying to prevent the opponent team from scoring.

Red Mimic
December 12th, 2004, 09:12 PM
Gone as soon as Clemente releases us Friday morning,.

As for the soccer, that was great (despite my shittiness) We should figure out the time the gym is avalible so we dont get booted out like that time. Soccer in the snow would also be fun and a little trickier, we just have to get Jerry (darth) some arctic commando gear so he can brave the frost.

endregan
December 13th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Object drawing causes cancer

endregan
December 15th, 2004, 02:02 PM
Who is coming to Swiss Chalet Friday night?


Everyone knows where it is right? It is in the dominion plaza. We could meet there at 7 and get some food.

Do you guys want to just meet up there and whoever comes we order and eat? We could meet at sheridan but thats just extra walking time.

Moiss and Alex! Tell me what u think

softdrawer
December 17th, 2004, 12:15 AM
im coming... maybe with someone else, but thats a huge maybe.

But yeah, ill try to show up around 7pm...7:30 max. :confident

Moiss
December 17th, 2004, 09:23 AM
I'm coming too, i'll ask CA Lurker to come...............either way is fine....:)

I guess we'll meet at the place..............

endregan
December 17th, 2004, 12:06 PM
ALright awesome see you guys there.

If you come late or something and we arent at the front door waiting, we will most definitely be sitting down someplace. just look around :)

IMFINALLY DONE
YEAH SEMESTER 1 DOWN 1 MORE TO GO

darth massacre
December 17th, 2004, 11:34 PM
YEAH SEMESTER 1 DOWN 1 MORE TO GO

Errm....7 more to go. :bashful:

softdrawer
December 17th, 2004, 11:34 PM
With Cheese ?



;)

endregan
December 17th, 2004, 11:51 PM
a little end of semester celebration

http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/swisschalet.jpg
darth, softdrawer,moiss,me
http://www.visiblesurface.com/pics/oakville/swisschalet2.jpg
moose, soft, moiss, me

without cheese?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darth massacre
December 18th, 2004, 12:02 AM
That's 7 more semesters with cheese! LOL

darth massacre
December 22nd, 2004, 04:43 PM
If any of you guys are checking in....Results are out on Access Sheridan.

HEROIC
December 24th, 2004, 12:57 PM
hello everyone,

im new to the forum, its a great forume, with great people , great drawings, and great information,
Im in grade 11 high school now, and i want to go to sheridan collage after school.
I though having some good skills for 3D modelling and animating would be enough for the collage, but i found out that i need to have a good drawing too :dead: .
So i decided to start drawing, 1 month passed ,, i like it, its pretty cool,, its so interesting, i wont get tired of it. But im worried that this is not enough, i got to have some skilss when i enter the collage, and i didnt take any art courses in school, so i have 2 years to practise,, but i dunno how much should i learn and practise . i dunno do i jus need simple drawings, or anatomy and stuff, or Digital painting,, DONT TELL ME I GOT TO DO OIL PAINTING TOO<<< >:| ..lol
ok, so , do i need to get any courses in collage or some classes, or maybe night school courses,,, or WHAT??

i have 2 years to practise, and i dont want to just do drawings in collage, i want to strenghten my skills now, so when i enter the collage i have time to do some 3D modelling and animating and get better in that....
u guys should be really good by now, u know everything about the collage,,, but you are all illustartion people :( .
Anybody can help, ill appriciate it.

darth massacre
December 25th, 2004, 09:13 PM
He's dissing Illustration people already! Softdrawer....he'll make a good apprentice for the dark side LOL



The basic thing about art is drawing....if you can't draw then how the hell can you animate properly? So keep drawing and drawing and drawing. And drawing and drawing.....drawing is your core skill....the thing that you use to help you visualise....painting, animation, sculpture...all has its base in drawing.

Knowing 3D software is just knowing a tool. Your real skill is in your ability to animate....different animation companies use different tools, bigger companies like Pixar use proprietary tools that's created by their programmers....knowing 3D Max or Maya is just part of the job.....creating art with those tools....whatever it may be, pencil or software....that is your real job.


Digital painting is a good way to learn tonal and color concepts....allows you to make mistakes...but sooner or later you're gonna have to pick up gouache or watercolors.


What worked for me was to learn everything and bitch less. You don't have to like it, you just have to do it. That's what being an artist is about....you're the artist, all your tools, skills, experience help you create art.....if you decide...this set of tools or skills are enough...then you'll always be selling yourself short of your true potential.....you have 2 years...that's plenty of time to experiment with different media traditional or computers and to learn basics.



I hope that helped.....maybe in a few years I'll see you in Sheridan. Until then, work hard for it. Nothing in this world is easy.

HEROIC
December 25th, 2004, 09:24 PM
-darth massacre: thanx,, i really didnt mean anything bad about fundementals,, maybe i'll become a fundie too,, i really like it,, but it happend to like animation more. :bashful:
thx for the advices, but u know practicing is not just the only thing, u've got to learn the stuff too,, like didnt u do any pre courses?? or didnt u have any lessons or any courses before u go to sheridan????
i think im missing sth here,,,
thx alot anyways,
O by the way i send a PM to softdrawer a week a go,, it seems hes on a vacation or sth???? anyways, he didnt answer!!!!,, hope he can help too :[

darth massacre
December 25th, 2004, 11:00 PM
No probs dude....I was just kidding. :teeth:


I started drawing from a very young age....then I started drawing seriously at about 15....went to my first art school at 18 and worked a few years in film/animation and book illustration (and some comics) before I came over to Canada to further my education....I'm quite the dinosaur in Sheridan....well at least among you guys :p

So yeah I guess I picked up a lot of things from a lot of people....not necessarily in schools, just, try methods used by everyone, never know if it'll be helpful to you or not but its just good to get the knowledge.

I think you can't get away with basic training.....either on your own or with a school....like Sheridan Fundies and so on.....they provide you with a solid base to work from. You won't lose out if you learn more things.

Have fun, good luck and....remember these 5 words.


YOU ARE NOT DRAWING ENOUGH

softdrawer
December 26th, 2004, 01:12 AM
Hey there,

Im alex, heres a few things id suggest you to look into if ur willing to go to sheridan and aim at a big course..

1- get about 80% drawing and 20% 3D in ur spares.. for drawing, well i havnt seen what youre capable of yet so i can judge but id say start off with life drawing. Everyone says it and it gets anoying some times but...its true.

2- Then once you got that up into buisness and you know your stuff, go on and try to develop your own style and ideas, find a goal i guess. (You cant imagine how many people just DONT try to find anything new than copy waayy over-done themes from other artists here) Just take it a step further, when they'll look at your portfolio THAT'S what they want...they look for people than can learn and develop fast/good with their own stuff. Be creative and use your imagination. You can still look up at others work though, dont get me wrong. Watching others art and learn from them is very usefull, but dont over do what they do, specialy without thinking. I always think when i create my art, its all about that... i draw what i feel, my emotions bla bla...but guess what, im happy with it, its creative and people get good imressions. Thats all you need man.

3- Explore the mediums (without going too wild at it, Oils you can put them aside). Id say more like Conte (that black little stick that stains like a b*tch and you have to hold in a funny way) that`s for life drawing, and this year was the first time i used it and i was the only one in the class who never ever touched one of these. Now im picking up, but i sure wish i could of been an adept at it from an early age. Take pastels, gouache, different pencils/pens and just try them out, if you dont like'em well just try anyway, you got nothin to lose and ur in high school.

4- Finaly, just draw ALOT, and try to enjoy it.. at sheridan, its ALL about time managing and enjoying the work load... i find it very hard myself, as i rarely find time to work on my own stuff and get over loaded with some time boring assignments. .... high school is like playground man. Youre so lucky hah. But then here you learn much more... its got its good and bads i guess.

-- you should post some of your stuff here if you want, could give you some backup er smthing.

Hope this helped a tiny bet, and it's just my opinion too, there's gonna be different ones around.

( and sorry for the typos... i dont like reading back what i wrote... messy but goody)

Lates

alx :blahblah:

softdrawer
December 26th, 2004, 01:29 AM
Arlight dude, i just saw you PM'ed me and i felt like i should answer you on the board instead of just PM'ing it non stop.. and it could help others too.

So you basicly wondering why you should apply into animation at Sheridan and what are your chances/what to do to get in right?

Alright.. Tell you what, you won't touch any 3D what so ever untill 2nd semester here.. you start with traditional animation. (yeah, thats the page flipping/draw every frame thing) ..and many people dont enjoy it that much. BUT that's about the most important thing there is in the whole program. Like D.Massacre said, programs are just basic tools. Knownledge and understanding of space/movement is the key to enerything else. so you basicly learn animation and tools the 2 first years, then you make your own stuff the 2 last ones. Assignments are more than plenty in animation.. more than most programs i think. Youll find yourself working at night many times.. ie: 8pm to 4am. Coffee will catch you. But in the end it's worth it. They mark hard in some classes AND since it's a University degree you HAVE to take university courses like English / psycho or philo and all the junk (yeah baby yeah) and it SUCKS. But then the rest of the time you just do art.. which is what i like. People are nice.. some teachers are great , others you wonder whats gonna happen.. emm.. i guess a couple of other guys could add some more to that.

Chances to get in... fairly good if you know how to draw good life drawing/anatomy and you have notion of basic perspectives etc.. I mean it's really just about knowing the obvious of drawings AND being creative. Good life drawing + Creativity = ur in . The rest is up to you, you gotta put the work in it.

You should start drawing people in ur class during boring classes in school (though that might not be good at any time... i tried not to in pre-calc hehe) draw people at home or even street, what ever does the trick and help you draw good stuff from life. AND always try to learn and push yourself to understand more than the illusion.. seek more. Thats how you can progress in art.

and finaly i guess its a bit of luck.. but that never helps to hold on to that.

If you have more questions just post them here man, ill answer.

alx :)

HEROIC
December 26th, 2004, 09:18 AM
Thanx man,
now i got a clue what do i have to do.. its jus me, my sketch book, pencil, and the rest is infront of me.

I just have some other questions before start my work,
so, if i just draw draw draw and draw, on life drawing, and these stuff,,, i wont need to get any pre courses??
ohh, by the way when do i use the digital drawing then??

when im at home theres nothing to draw ,i can draw some stuff in the house, but after a while i'll get bored of it and as u said i have to imagine,, is that good if i do the digital drawings at that time, or i have to get good on the paper then go to digital drawing?
does it raelly matter,,,, i dont think so,, cause i still have the pen and paper!!! lol

oh, one more thing,, is it okay if i draw from the pics too,, like if i see sth interesting in the magazine and start drawing,, i dont think that helps,, does it?? Sth real, a photograph

Moiss
December 26th, 2004, 08:05 PM
Hi HEROIC.....I guess i'm gonna share a bit of my experience here in Sheridan.......basically i'm also a new starter here......i'm still learning......

I'm in Art Fundies now.......for me I'm still trying to get into Illustration next year.......and hopefully they'll accept me.....I'm still struggling.....

Anyway, I agree with Softdrawer and Darth, just draw and be creative......keep practising..........

As far as my experience here in Sheridan, the teachers really look into your drawing skills, especially from life observation........

Don't forget if u want to get into Sheridan either animation or illustration, just don't submit any of your portfolio that has images related to fantasy, anime, or things like that........that's the biggest mistake that most people do....(i dunno if did that, i guess i did....oh well....)


Good luck.........:) it's good to have a new member.......cheers............

softdrawer
December 27th, 2004, 01:20 AM
Heroic,

Tell you what, i personaly think digital art isnt gonna help you that much if you start with it. Be good traditional art and then everything else is gonna be right there to get. When you understand the basics and you know how to do great line work and life, then anything else is just a small step ahead. Painter, photoshop, flash or maya... i mean its just a small tool, a different pencil. You wont become michelangelo if we give you the ''special'' pencil right?

I dunno man, i told you what i thought of it.. its up to you know. Find the inspiration and passion in it.

darth massacre
December 27th, 2004, 02:34 AM
Aye there. Softdrawer is right. The computer is just another tool.

There's nothing wrong with drawing from photo reference....but its whether you're picking up the right things. Photos are great to learn composition of pictures, colors, perspective and so on....if you break them down technically and accordingly....shapes, lines and so on. But the danger with working from photographs alone are that you can replicate something letter for letter but fail to grasp the concept of building up a picture from scratch.

Tell you what. Take Softdrawer's advice and learn all those traditional media. Get books to help you, go for extra classes outside of school to get some instructions and advise from teachers.....a half whacked teacher is better than fumbling around in the dark. But make sure its within your budget.

Also get books on location drawing and books that give you an idea of what spatial depth, perspective and volume is all about.

On the other hand, make sure you study human anatomy and do life drawing, plenty of it. Study proportions, musculo-skeletal structures, poses, and then apply them to your drawings.....naked people = good :D Go draw in the open....doesn't matter if you're not good enough....just draw and apply what you pick up from books, forums and classes. Keep drawing and you'll improve....like said...2 years is a very long time depending on how you want to spend it. Maybe you'll change your mind by then....but if you don't change your mind, then you've had a solid 2 years invested in practicing.

There are no short cuts. One of my mentors....an animation director....told us....you pay now, or you pay later....but you still pay. Its only whether you want to make your future more smooth sailing by paying now.

And errr....post your sketches in the sketches-n-work in progress section so we can see how you're doing along the months.

HEROIC
December 27th, 2004, 09:29 AM
softdrawer, darth massacre, Moiss - thx guys, i really appriciate ur help.

darth massacre- as u said about drawing from the photo reference, i usually break them down the parts of drawings, like in this week i learnt how to draw the neck, cloth, lightining, and some other stuff, i mean i found out how to draw it, im gonna redo some parts that i think i need , like eyes, head, eyebrows, lips, nose, fingers(this is the hard one), and other parts in different figures and moods.

I really am not sure about the Illustration or Animation,, but i dont worry about it,, cause i know after a year for sure i'll get my answers.

Guys, we're moving right now to a new house, and i packed the scanner and stuff 2 days ago, there is jus the computer and my bed in the room. As soon as i set up my computer in the new house, i'll scan everything i have, probably next monday, its really crap,, i jus started from last month and its really funny to look at my drawings,, sometimes i feel like a kid, hahaa :bashful:
But its good by posting the sketches, cause i can get help from u guys, and the comments are always usefull. :)

"ChEsTeR"
January 2nd, 2005, 01:49 PM
Sheriton sounds like a pretty cool school. Iv'e read all this and it was pretty helpful. I live two provinces to the left. Sounds expensive as hell.
How do you know if your best suted for illustration or animation?
QUOTE]AND since it's a University degree you HAVE to take university courses like English / psycho or philo and all the junk (yeah baby yeah) and it SUCKS.[/QUOTE]
F**k. I thought sheridan had a pure art school where you didnt have to take any shit. Does that mean if your taking illustration or animation you have to take a bloody math class. That would make things even more expensive. How many other other classes do you have to take?
Are there any art school where you dont have to take anything but art?
Oh, and is the aplication portfolio for animation the same as illustration?
thanks.

darth massacre
January 2nd, 2005, 07:48 PM
The entry portfolio for Animation and Illustration programs are different.

My guess is a lot of folks swap from Animation to Illustration and vice versa because they couldn't figure out what's best for them until they experienced what they don't want to do. How do you know? Well I don't think you will until you tried it and decide for yourself. Don't let the "how much money will I earn" cloud your mind.

As for the breadth courses...no there are no math (for now) but don't throw back what you learned in High school.....math will come in handy when you least expected it.

There are programs that allow you to go hardcore into doing what you want....illustration or animation....but I don't think they give you a degree for that...most likely a diploma at most but I'm sure there are schools who do that. Breadth courses give you exposure to other things. You don't have to ace them....just pass them enough to pull you to the next year.

I think I've mentioned, we never feel we need something until we come across a situation where we need them. The programs are catered to help the artist grow in both in skill and thought. Its a hassle, but it's not too bad.

And errr...Sheridan isn't a pure arts school :D Its a college with all sorts of disciplines....even engineering.




__________________________________________________ _

Hey guys....what do you think is a good cross discipline elective? I was thinking of taking Esthetics >:D Lots of babes in there! We'll need to learn how to apply make-up too....its all part of our program isn't it :teeth:

endregan
January 2nd, 2005, 11:27 PM
jerry!! You must show me some of your latest beautician works :)

HEROIC
January 6th, 2005, 11:16 AM
hey guys, , back again, we moved to the new house but i still dont have a internet connection, am sending this from school(computer graphics class :bashful: ),
The Internet will be installed on Friday. oh, by the way , dont u guys look at people's B-day, eeh anyways, it passed anyway, it was Jan 1st

Schools started already and thats really bad because i wont have that much time to draw, but im happy cause i found so many subjects to draw in school, so many ideas come to my head at school,, library is the best, So i found a very big resource of references for drawing, and its pretty cool,, for a guy like me that started drawing just in a month, its pretty cool.'

I scanned my drawings and i'll upload it on Friday, so probably i'll make a thread of my drawings on Saturday,,,, hehee,, so happy to post my crap drawings.. lol

oh, by the way, We have a course selection for next year on February,, but i dunno what to choose, I wanted to get English 12, Calcules, Physics, and some other crap courses,, but im not sure,, , i got to have a grade 12 ENG U/ and 5 other U or U/C courses if i want to enter sheridan collage,, but i dunno what to take, :\
As darth massacre said " we never feel we need something until we come across a situation where we need them." ,,, so u mean i got to take em, , maybe i'll need them later on!!!!!! :[

One more thing i heard from my friends, in SHeridan if u fail a term or if u dont do well they're gonna kick u out, and u can never come back again,, is that true???? hope not :nohope:

softdrawer
January 6th, 2005, 11:07 PM
if u fail a term or if u dont do well they're gonna kick u out, and u can never come back again,, is that true???? hope not :nohope:

I dunno.. all i heard from my program is that if you do like under 60% in a class theyll watch you close for a bit and if you dont get any better ur out.. but even that im not sure.. :teeth:

But hey, why are you worried in the 1st place? You shouldnt have bad grades in Sheridan, if you're there, ur there to work hard! :P

EDIT : by the way, im thinking on scanning my whole animation journal and post it on here or other thread, linked from website. Just need to find the courage and time to do it. :dead:

darth massacre
January 6th, 2005, 11:56 PM
Alex, please show us your animation when you get it up online! If not we'd hunt you down in school anyway :teeth:



Heroic....if you submit your works on time and come to class for your lessons there's no way you'd fail unless you suck big time. If you can get into the program after the portfolio review, it means you have the potential....I've got lots of classmates who just play away and take things lightly....not giving much thought or consideration into submitting works reflecting what they learn...or worse, not handing in on time. They got plenty of Cs (still above 60%) and are still getting by somehow.

Moiss
January 7th, 2005, 12:54 AM
I would love to see your works, Alex............................ :} and Darth, post some more............... :}


Anyway, why don't we make another thread to post some of our works.....you know...like....the Sheridan Sketch thread.......or anything like that..........

I wanted to post some of my works too.....but just dunno when......... :[

Heroic, let us know if you already post some of your works............:)

softdrawer
January 7th, 2005, 11:20 AM
How'bout each of us make a new thread in the Daily Sketchbook section ex:

Sheridan's Darth SketchB

Sheridan's Soft SketchB

Sheridan's Moiss..

endregan..

etc..

So people know it's from students at sheridan.. we'd have all of us in the Daily section.. wanna do it? :teeth:

Im gonna scan my sketchbook today.. so by tonight ill make my thread and tsart posting.

:yayca:

HEROIC
January 7th, 2005, 06:49 PM
hey guys,
My internet is now connected, and i just uploaded the drawings,oh by the way, i madee the thread in SKETCHES, IDEAS, & WORKS IN PROGRESS section,,, is it right??
Heres the link:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36506 (http://)
Hope u like it,,
Plz comment, Thanx

endregan
January 7th, 2005, 09:29 PM
I would love to see your works, Alex............................ and Darth, post some more...............


Anyway, why don't we make another thread to post some of our works.....you know...like....the Sheridan Sketch thread.......or anything like that..........

I wanted to post some of my works too.....but just dunno when.........

Heroic, let us know if you already post some of your works............

Cool idea! Start posting guys! I already have a thread going, the one I started a long time ago.

softdrawer
January 8th, 2005, 01:13 AM
I just made mine... posted a few drawings from my sketchbook, ill add more later.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=379285#post379285

tweak_hp
January 8th, 2005, 04:06 AM
hey everyone, i read this whole thread long ago but never posted anything...i have now applied for fundies, but can't decided if its my first choice or not...i definatly want to take industrial design....but i can't decide if i want/need a year in fundies first...or if i'm even up to snuff for either program...i know i'm not good...but that is how i would learn right?..if anyone wants to check out my sketchbook and let me know wut you think (about wut i should do or if i even compare to an average fundies student) that would be awesome...post here or leave a comment in my sketchbook if you want...thanks a lot...sorry if i'm ranting...its 4 am and i need sleep. :dead:

softdrawer
January 8th, 2005, 01:18 PM
...or if i'm even up to snuff for either program...i know i'm not good...but that is how i would learn right?..

I looked at your sketches and im almost 100% sure you can make it into fundies.. they really take anybody..or almost. The real questions are, what do they look for in industrial design and how much you need to learn. Im not in that program and i know nothing of it so it's hard to have a strong opinion on it. You should apply to both anyway, better off with many options and if one fails you still got the other one. If you ever go in fundies, don't just stick with what they teach you, work some more on your spare times. School is good for knowledge but pushing yourself further is 10 times better that any course. I dunno if you live any close to sheridan or near Oakville, but id ask around about that program if i were you..see what they look for in new students. Then people can tell you exactly what to improve on.

But tell you what, you're not bad at all... ive seen hella worst in fundies right now. I think its more up to what you wanna do later and where you should start to improve and then everything else is gonna be sweet and easy.

good luck, if you have more questions go ahead, :rendered:

alx

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 10:51 AM
I am new here. The tread is really long and cool. I am appling BAA program...be busy with portfolio now. Hope I could be acceptted and see you lovely guys. Wish you happy! :D

softdrawer
January 9th, 2005, 12:03 PM
I am new here. The tread is really long and cool. I am appling BAA program...be busy with portfolio now. Hope I could be acceptted and see you lovely guys. Wish you happy! :D


Hey, yeah animation is a good program ( if BAA is what i think.. ) im in it and it's quite challenging in therms of time management. You have to reaally want to push into animation, or else you'll find it hard to go through the course. It's university degree, you also got english with it and bunch'a crap. I might be able to help you with the portfolio if you have any questions but i guess they change it year after year. You can post on this thread the portfolio requirements and what they want.. it's probably very similar to what i had to do.

good luck

alx

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 12:08 PM
1. Five observational drawings
3 drawings of a human figure (preferably nude, however, models wearing
a swimsuit or bodysuit are acceptable)
2 drawings of an animal figure (use pets, visit a zoo or farm)
Any 3 of the 5 drawings should show stillness, e.g. the figure standing,
sitting, crouching
Any 2 of the 5 drawings should show the figure in motion, e.g. walking,
running, pitching or batting a baseball.
All figure drawings should be done from life, not books or
photographs.
Note:
The 5 drawings will be assessed based on the following
criteria.
Score:
5 - proportion
5 - line quality
5 - character balance
5 - sense of volume
5 - motion or stillness
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25
2. Design 1 original character to be used in the following drawings
a.
Draw character rotations of your original character design using the
following views. Put each view on a separate (8.5"x11") sheet.
Turn-around model sheets
front view
3/4 front view
profile view
3/4 back view
back view
The turn-around model sheets will be assessed
based on the following criteria.
Score:
2 - line quality
2 - structure
2 - volume
2 - continuity of your design
2 - presentation
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10
b.
Action poses of your character (each pose on a separate 8.5"x11"
inch sheet). Keep these drawings rough and loose.
Two action pose sheets
The 2 character action pose sheets will be assessed based
on the following criteria.
Score:
2.5 - clarity of the character’s action intent
2.5 - adherence to the design of your character
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5.0
c.
Draw your original character’s head with 5 different expressions
(see below). You may choose to draw these heads on larger paper
and cut, paste and reduce if necessary to arrange all 5 heads on 1
(8.5"x11" sheet).
One expression sheet
neutral (normal expression)
angry
happy
sad
surprised
The expression sheet will be assessed based on the
following criteria.
Score:
5 - clarity of intent of the expression
5 - adherence to the design of your character
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10
3. (e.g. fruit, a box, a tin can,
a plastic funnel) based on these geometric forms: sphere, cube, cylinder, and
cone. Do use a ruler, compass or stencil.
Two composition sheets of household objects
not
1 freehand line drawing showing an accurate observation of these objects
1 freehand line drawing based on the first composition drawing (from the
same point of view) Using your imagination, show how it would look if it
were affected by some external force. This should tell us a story of what
happened to the objects (e.g. a heavy wind, an earthquake, a snowfall
etc.)
.
Note: Do not shade or colour in the artwork on the above
composition sheets.
The 2 composition sheets will be assessed based on the
following criteria.
Score:
2 - story
2 - structure
2 - composition
2 - transformation
2 - imagination
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10
4. Two freehand line drawings of a room in your house.
a. The first drawing should be an accurate observation of the room and
should show a person, drawn in scale, sitting, standing or reclining in that
space.
b. The second drawing should be the same room from that person’s point of
view. Unlike the first drawing, you should apply your imagination to
interpret how the character sees the room.
The 2 line drawings will be assessed based on the following
criteria.
Score:
2 - line quality
2 - volume – spatial
2 - composition
2 - perspective
2 - imagination
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10
5. Two freehand line drawings of a human hand
a. The first should show the hand anticipating an action (e.g. picking up a
coin, knocking on a door, pressing a button, etc.).
b. The second should show the hand carrying out that action.
The 2 line drawings will be assessed based on the following
criteria.
Score:
2 - line quality
2 - proportion
2 - anatomy
2 - perspective
2 - performance (acting)
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10
6.
Choose 1 of the character designs and using the 4 panel storyboard
enclosed show the character as it goes through the following narrative:
Storyboarding
enclosed
Panel 1 - The character finds a box and shows curiosity.
Panel 2 - The character is frustrated when the box proves difficult to
open.
Panel 3 - The character is pleased when the box finally opens.
Panel 4 - The character is shocked, horrified or pleased when the
contents are revealed
Note: Please remember to number your panels.
The storyboard will be assessed based on the
following criteria.
Score:
2.5 - ability to follow the narrative
2.5 - imagination
2.5 - communication
2.5 - ability to follow the enclosed character model
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10
7.
These submissions should include works that best demonstrate your artistic
abilities. Please include three-dimensional artwork (sculpture etc.).
Photographs of these works are acceptable. No video or digital media will be
reviewed.
Five pieces of your personal artwork
do not
These 5 pieces will be assessed based on the following criteria. Score:
2 - creativity/imagination
2 - versatility/technical ability
2 - communication
2 - artistic sensibility
2 - presentation
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10
The Bachelor of Applied Arts (Animation) Program does not accept
any existing (plagiarized) cartoon characters.
Please Note:
Due to the large volume of portfolio submissions, portfolios that do not meet
the format as outlined above will not be accepted. We cannot accept or view
videotapes, slides or diskettes.

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 12:17 PM
I have done the hands and the household object thing, as well as the secound of the room and person. I am trying to design my character( It's my first time to do this), and I don't know where to start. I did a lot comic drawing from Japanese cartoons in the past, so my drawing has that style more or less. But I am wondering how to express its volumn. I found out 2 way:the first is to build up volumns like a puppet( it's showed from the 2 characters sent by sheridan) , and the other is to use dark and light lines (just like structure drawing) to achieve its spacial apprearenc. just don't know which is the right track. :[

darth massacre
January 9th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Yep, that sounds like the portfolio requirements for BAA-Animation.

Well portfolio submission is less than 8 weeks away! So errr, don't slack off!! ;)

Good luck to Tweak and Qian Wang....and its more practice for Heroic!






Gee I really gotta draw more.....not yet in the gear. Been watching too many movies on DVD since I bought the DVD-RW drive.

HEROIC
January 9th, 2005, 01:39 PM
errrr,, portfolio submission , that thing scares me,

Qian Wang- u just made an end for me by posting the portfolio reguirements :dead: .
lol, no, im jk. Now i got a clue how dead am i, i want the same program as you, BAA.

tweak_hp, Qian Wang can u guys show your portfolio after you've submited it. If u don mind.

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 01:45 PM
hey everyone, i read this whole thread long ago but never posted anything...i have now applied for fundies, but can't decided if its my first choice or not...i definatly want to take industrial design....but i can't decide if i want/need a year in fundies first...or if i'm even up to snuff for either program...i know i'm not good...but that is how i would learn right?..if anyone wants to check out my sketchbook and let me know wut you think (about wut i should do or if i even compare to an average fundies student) that would be awesome...post here or leave a comment in my sketchbook if you want...thanks a lot...sorry if i'm ranting...its 4 am and i need sleep. :dead:

Hi, tweak. about industrial design. I used to be a student in that program and think I might could help a little bit. Try structure drawing to begin with. accurate perspective,line quality, spacial and expression are all important. this is the basic skill. It seems that they don't use figuring drawing, at least in China, though we had that practice in our spare time, it's not the point. and then you can browser some website to check out their concept design , such as cars etc. :D good luck

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 01:52 PM
errrr,, portfolio submission , that thing scares me,

Qian Wang- u just made an end for me by posting the portfolio reguirements :dead: .
lol, no, im jk. Now i got a clue how dead am i, i want the same program as you, BAA.

tweak_hp, Qian Wang can u guys show your portfolio after you've submited it. If u don mind.

dude, put youself together , I had the same feeling when I got it .lol lucky you cuz you could get a clue. I got mine and had to just begin my death. I am in Beijing now. very far away from you . I think I will put my portfolio up here after submission. Trust yourself and just go for it!! :rendered:

JJH
January 9th, 2005, 02:47 PM
Hey Qian Wang and HEROIC. I'm in fundies right now, it'll be cool if we all get into animation. Good luck to us all.

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 03:00 PM
Hey Qian Wang and HEROIC. I'm in fundies right now, it'll be cool if we all get into animation. Good luck to us all.

yeah, I hope so. guess we could set up a group lol. btw, does anyone know the proportion of boys and girls in that program? just curious

HEROIC
January 9th, 2005, 03:03 PM
dude, put youself together , I had the same feeling when I got it .lol lucky you cuz you could get a clue. I got mine and had to just begin my death. I am in Beijing now. very far away from you . I think I will put my portfolio up here after submission. Trust yourself and just go for it!!

you are right Qian Wang, but u know, u did drawings before this submission , maybe a year a go, 2 years, 3 years or so. But can u believe me that i started drawing from almost 40 days ago. lolz. Its pretty cool dude, i like it,. At first i though if i want to go to 3D Animation, i've got to learn just 3D modelling and ANimating, but when i got the information from concept art, and people like endregan, Moiss, darth massacre, and Softdrawer, i undrestood that i got to have good drawing skills. So i started and i've got a year and half to practise :teeth: . Im in grade 11, so i suppose i've got to do the Portfolio Submission next year this times of the year. Right??


JJH- Its a very good idea man, but u know , for a guy like me, im not still sure if i want to go to Fundementals or Animation. but im sure i wanna go to Animation for 89%.

Hooray for Fundemental and Animation Students. :yayca:

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 03:13 PM
y know what, I had the same feeling just 2 month ago. but now I feel better cuz I know what I really want. If I can't be acceptted this year , I can also apply next year, the year after next year untill I can go in. I don't care how long it takes. I choise what I love and go for it and everyone can 2. So don't be frustrated. I have only one year experence and all I drawed are structure drawing for industrial design . I have never tried figure drawing before. Different people have different experience. But I really wanna say that just try it , go for it !!!

HEROIC
January 9th, 2005, 03:38 PM
yes, you are right, if i like sth, and i see i have the talent and the passion. SO nothing can stop me from it. I'll do whatever i cna do,, practise, practise, draw, draw and draw to get to the final stage i wanted to get that comfort i wanted, to be satisfied.

Portfolio Submission for Sheridan for NExt year, HERE I COME. hahaha :^^:

Oh, by the way, i still didnt get my answer, i think i asked this question couple days ago. Can someone plz help me for the course selection thing for next year. i mean for grade 12, i know i got to take English, but what else. I though maybe to choose calcules, and Physics 12. U know they will help for later on, cause 3D Animators usually use mathematical formulas in their stuff, ANd Physics helps too. But what else. i've got to choose 2 more courses :S .

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 03:48 PM
well, I dunno much about that. You can check this site out " www.litetable.com" it's a forum by BAA student.good luck :confident

(I feel very happy that you are full of confident now. :-D)

JJH
January 9th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Ahhh memories of high school subjects! :$

As for guy/girl proportion. I heard, I repeat, heard, that there are more girls in illustration. That's all I know.

tweak_hp
January 9th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Hi, tweak. about industrial design. I used to be a student in that program and think I might could help a little bit. Try structure drawing to begin with. accurate perspective,line quality, spacial and expression are all important. this is the basic skill. It seems that they don't use figuring drawing, at least in China, though we had that practice in our spare time, it's not the point. and then you can browser some website to check out their concept design , such as cars etc. :D good luck

ya...cars are what got me into ID...i love em. and your right...figure drawing is not really involved with id, but i like to do life drawing for the practice and for fun..couldn't hurt right?..thanks for your info...and heroic...i just applied for fundies, not animation or illustration, so i don't need to sumbit a portfolio...i do need one for my ID program, for that i am not limited at all in what i submit. so i can do anything i want....i will post it when i'm done, but its not due till march...

Qian Wang
January 9th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Ahhh memories of high school subjects! :$

As for guy/girl proportion. I heard, I repeat, heard, that there are more girls in illustration. That's all I know.

what about animation? :wink:

softdrawer
January 9th, 2005, 11:42 PM
what about animation? :wink:

Hmm.. id say it's about 50/50. Well in my class theres a bit more guys but other classes have majority girls so.. it all depends. But in general its half half.

But tell you what, i dont think looking for relationships in the same program is the greatest idea lol. :blahblah:

Yeah good luck to you all.. and give everything you got to get in if that your goal. Its worth it. And dont give up, if you dont make it the first try, go in fundies and get better or try other programs before. Some people in my program have gone through 2 years of illustration,droped out and then went in animation...others have gone into 2 consecutive years of fundies or went at other schools before applying again.. its all about what you really want and the effort you are ready to give. dont let yourself down.

alx

darth massacre
January 10th, 2005, 12:01 AM
Hmm.. id say it's about 50/50. Well in my class theres a bit more guys but other classes have majority girls so.. it all depends. But in general its half half.
But tell you what, i dont think looking for relationships in the same program is the greatest idea lol. :blahblah:
Its 50-50 in my class too (I'm not in animation by the way) and I agree with Alex somewhat.

Anyway I'm enjoying the "view" while working hard on my results. Most girls in school are way too young for me >:D



yeah, I hope so. guess we could set up a group lol.
We already have a group :)


Qian Wang, it may be possible you get into the Animation program with my friend here. He's from my class and will be hopping over to Animation next year...provided his application goes through. Anyway he's from Guangdong, China so you guys would probably have something to talk about.


Looks like a whole new gang of Sheridan applicants are moving into this thread. Pay special attention to the earlier posts Kennygeeze left up....its great information to whoever's going into Fundies (I've never gone to Fundies myself but hell so far I hear its good and accurate what he's posted).

Qian Wang
January 10th, 2005, 01:58 AM
Qian Wang, it may be possible you get into the Animation program with my friend here. He's from my class and will be hopping over to Animation next year...provided his application goes through. Anyway he's from Guangdong, China so you guys would probably have something to talk about.


:rendered: that would be great. If I am acceptted , I gotta live a life on my own, very far away from my families and its cool to have many friends around to avoid homesick. I will try my best and hope everything goes well. btw, about my question on character design. any suggestion, I really feel a little bit tough anyway. thanks >:D

aico003
January 11th, 2005, 07:57 PM
Alright, I'm still alive. I really need to start posting here more so that I get focused.. I haven't been drawing at all recently. School has been driving crazy with the whole end of semester piles of work which was way worse since I got my wisdom teeth removed last week even more stuff piled one.. alright no more excuses.

I started going to a figure drawing night, have only gone once so far since it was cancelled due to weather last week but it should really help with the sketchbook aspect of the porfolio.. I haven't gotten started on any of the other projects but after seeing the animation stuff the illustration one doesn't seem quite as bad. I got some micron pens a few weeks ago too so I've been learning to use those.. maybe I should start a sketchbook thread to make sure I get productive.

Good luck to everyone else applying..

Qian Wang
January 12th, 2005, 05:45 AM
:rendered:
hi, guys. I need some help from you. well , I am doing my character design portfolio. about the side view. I tried many times but it still looks kinda plat, and I found that it's a little hard to draw face in side view. this did not happen when I draw other views. don't know why. any advice will be apprieated, thank you !!

Moiss
January 13th, 2005, 12:18 PM
Hey Guys,

Wow....we have more new members..........Welcome all...

Anyway, I just posted some of my drawings.....I really need feedbacks from you, guys.....

C&C are the things that will improve my drawings.....

Thanks a lot....and G'luck to you all.......:)

Softd: Your works are awesome...... :teeth:
Darth: post some more :teeth:

Here's the link:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36816

darth massacre
January 14th, 2005, 01:26 AM
Darth: post some more :teeth:
Go away Moiss :teeth: I'm lazy! :blahblah:




Hey Endregan had persuaded me to try out Parkour. So if you guys are interested we should to talk to the Student's Union about setting up a club if there isn't one already. >:D

softdrawer
January 14th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Hey Endregan had persuaded me to try out Parkour

huh?... i need some more info about this.. im confused. (as always)

HEROIC
January 14th, 2005, 10:05 PM
hellooo,,
can anyone give a hand here,

Im stuck, i started my sketch book, but eeeh. I got a sense that im not working good enough.:er:

I learned so many stuff about human Anatomy, but the really study is going to start from next week, because the Anatomy books i wanted to get(which are recomended- Anatomy for the Artist, 2 books from George Bridgman 1.books of life Drawings and 2.human anatomy) are not available anywhere, they were out of library, so i placed a hold.
But it doesnt matter cause i have some other books in home, they are not really great, but they help, they are also for drawing and i got them from library. I did some drawings on them(muscle and proportion studies).

Now, i've got a plan for my self-- i want to draw the skeletons first and learn their actuall places, and works, then, i'll draw the body, so i can undrestand where the bones had been placed in the body, then i'll draw the muscles and tendons, then after all those i can draw the figures. And after that it would take me along time to practise fugures.

:skull:TOO much work:skull:, but this is the way i chose! :android:

ok guys, i want u to help if im doing anything wrong, or my plan is not right, or sth in my drawings is wrong, or it doesnt looks like good for a start.

COMMENTs & CRITIQUEs are required>:{ if u want to see my sketch book, PLZ:S

Qian Wang
January 15th, 2005, 08:31 AM
wow,I am really looking forward to that club if it's possible,could u give out more information about that and I will be very happy to join in :teeth: !

To Heroic:

I think your play is not bad. There is one advice: Pay attention to body block(dont know it's the right word,..maybe it's called body cube or something) before going into details. ;)

aico003
January 15th, 2005, 10:28 AM
Hey Heroic, you might wanna try out www.saveloomis.org . I've scanned through all of them and read through the figure drawing one once but I've really been meaning to read though it again, it's a great book. Best of all it's totally free, all you need is internet access.

Alright just one week of exams and this semester will finally be over, maybe then I'll be able to get some solid work done.. I've been learning photoshop a bit for fun maybe I'll post some of that stuff somewhere too.

HEROIC
January 15th, 2005, 04:04 PM
Qian Wang- Thx man for da advice, oh by the way, dude why dont u make your sketch book, or upload it here so we can see your work!! hehe :wink:

aico003- I just dont know how to thank u, these books are great, the only problem is i've got to print it, that its worth it. Cool stuff man, thx alot.

darth massacre
January 15th, 2005, 08:58 PM
ya...cars are what got me into ID...i love em. and your right...figure drawing is not really involved with id, but i like to do life drawing for the practice and for fun..couldn't hurt right?...
My thoughts are the exact opposite. ID usually means egronomics in terms of functionality design for human use. Knowledge of the human body and how it interacts with a design can help in understanding why some part of your product may look good and serve its function but don't help with comfort level of the users.

Lucky for you Tweak, you love life drawing :teeth: You KNOW you can do both cars and life draw!

Qian Wang
January 15th, 2005, 10:19 PM
To Heroic:

I lost the driverprogram for my scanner. But there are some portfolios before

http://www.litetable.com/index.php?showtopic=236&hl= :rendered:

Best wishes!

HEROIC
January 15th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Qian Wang- hey, nice portfolio you've got man.

Um, the Admission requirements for Sheridan are:

o English, Grade 12 (U) or OAC English
plus
o Senior-level Visual Art credit at the M, or Open Level, or the general or advanced level (what da heck is this)
o Four other Grade 12 subjects at the U or M level or four OAC courses
o Minimum 65% overall average.

i don get it. Anyone knows?

by the way

"The Bachelor of Applied Arts in Animation (BAAA) degree transforms the Animation - Classical diploma previously offered by Sheridan and joins it with elements of the Computer Animation Graduate Certificate to provide students with an industry-ready skill set."

what is Classical diploma, i have to get this before i can apply for BAAA, right? how do i get it,, how long is it?
-- Its better to know it now than later on! hehe!! :bashful:

darth massacre
January 15th, 2005, 11:50 PM
HEROIC.

The programs have merged, classical animation and computer animation are now combined into one applied arts degree program. You don't have to take one before the other. Sheridan used to offer a classical animation diploma and other postgraduate computer animation programs (3 more years).

But be prepared to get stressed out. Its roughly 6 years of work squeezed into 4 years.

HEROIC
January 16th, 2005, 08:49 AM
darth massacre- so i do not worry i just take the BAAA programs or BAAI it will take me 4 years. But i still dont get the Senior-level Visual Art, as i told u i jus started drawings, and i didnt take any art courses in high school. so :dur: ,, is it bad, or i've got to get it next year or so, or maybe night school, or summer school :dead:.

darth massacre
January 16th, 2005, 12:31 PM
My suggestion for you Heroic....is to apply for all, Art Fundamentals and whatever program you choose (Animation, Illustration).

You can apply for all programs, just need to get your portfolio submissions in on time. You can decide which to choose later on when you gain acceptance into the programs.

If you feel you're not confident enough to tackle the Illustration or Animation program then you should really tryout for Fundies first. Softdrawer mentioned before, fundies are there to help you create a portfolio that's good enough to submit for the different programs. It does not necessarily have to be a program in Sheridan...it could be a program somewhere else.

Keep working on it and stop worrying about things that will only happen in the next 2 years.

walker
January 16th, 2005, 01:32 PM
woah, I have a pretty serious crisis here;

I recieved the Sheridan Portfolio requirements, and the guidline for submitting your original artwork says..


7. Five Pieces of your Personal Artwork
These submissions should include works that best demonstrate your artistic
abilities. Please do not include three-dimensional artwork (sculpture etc.).
Photographs of these works are acceptable. No video or digital media will be
reviewed.



By digital media, do they mean that including any CG artworks is not allowed? I have e-mailed Admissions Sheridan and they have not gotten back to me. Alot of my completed artwork is done digitally or with charcoal.
Can anyone clarify this for me?

softdrawer
January 16th, 2005, 08:03 PM
By digital media, do they mean that including any CG artworks is not allowed? I have e-mailed Admissions Sheridan and they have not gotten back to me. Alot of my completed artwork is done digitally or with charcoal.
Can anyone clarify this for me?


By this they mean you can post any type of art work...it has to show your best abilities. All they want is something on PAPER and nothing that's too big, in another material or on CD/Tape.. It can be digitaly done, but you have to print it out on paper and not send them a Disc. They dont want to receive a 5 foot tall sculpture to evaluate, take a picture of it and send it. I your case, everything is fine i believe.

alx

Red Mimic
January 16th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Wow reading those academic requirments reminded me I shouldn't even be in Illustration. So they must do something weird when it comes to highschool transcripts and it might be almost entirely based on your portfolio.

0 OACs for me :D

Qian Wang
January 16th, 2005, 10:06 PM
It's true. Y know, when you kept drawing , you could find much more fun than you ever expected. Portfolios can show your skill and what's more important is your passion. If you hate to draw, you will hate to take animation to be your goal. Take it easy. ;)

walker
January 16th, 2005, 10:26 PM
By this they mean you can post any type of art work...it has to show your best abilities. All they want is something on PAPER and nothing that's too big, in another material or on CD/Tape.. It can be digitaly done, but you have to print it out on paper and not send them a Disc. They dont want to receive a 5 foot tall sculpture to evaluate, take a picture of it and send it. I your case, everything is fine i believe.

alx

thank you so much for the info! Me and a friend were about to pull our hair out if prints of CG art weren't allowed at all! that's a relief for me

pencilfarmer
January 17th, 2005, 08:49 AM
yo guys

I'm finishing off my portfolio right now, but being an international applicant from South Africa, I've noticed that the international webpage hasn't been updated for a while. My concern is that there might be some discrepancies, such as the portfolio requirements that must've been changed since I last checked on the original site. I've been doing a crapload of gesture and lifedrawing, but not much perspective architechture and character design. I've done some plasticine sculpture and loads of detailed anatomical studies as well. So now I've got to hurry up and do all those perspective/character/storyboard stuff before the deadline (which is a bit tighter for me since I have to mail my portfolio via DHL/UPs).

There's also the application fee that's not made entirely clear on the international page: it says I should send in my portfolio along with $65 canadian, but on the original site it mentions that the portfolio should be registered and include a $40 portfolio-checking fee. Would somebody please try and clear up this issue for me?

pencilfarmer
January 17th, 2005, 09:55 AM
Choose 1 of the character designs and using the 4 panel storyboard
enclosed show the character as it goes through the following narrative:
Storyboarding
enclosed

How am I supposed to obtain these character designs if it's enclosed to whatever portfolio registration form they forgot to mention on the site?

Revenants
January 17th, 2005, 02:52 PM
hi guys, this is my first post...
I'm in grade 11 now and thinking about my future and I might be considering sheridan. Just a few questions:
1. do you get any elective courses that is not art related? Something like a third language?
2. I keep hearing the art fundies and other programs, I tried looking at the website but couldn't figure anything out. (my school's guidence is useless) I have liked art since a relatively young age and took extracurricular lessons starting at 13 or so. I learn from a chinese teacher and learn mostly proper stuff(drawing sculptures, human figure, portraits. very much similar to the russian ways of teaching.) So I'm not sure what I'm suppose to apply for.

edit:
Heroic: I just saw that you were looking for the bridgman's books. Although his smaller books are really hard to find, the larger compiled version of all the small ones is at chapters.

here's the title: Bridgman's Complete Guide To Drawing From Life: Over 1,000 Illustrations

HEROIC
January 17th, 2005, 04:26 PM
wow, thanx to endregan for making this thread. thx man :)

Revenants- heyy, good to see some one same grade as me here, man, i've got the same problem with da course selections too, its next month, and i still dont know what to choose.
the problem is i know what to choose, but the Admission requirements for Sheridan says you've got have a Senior-level Visual Art credit at the M, or Open Level, or the general or advanced level. SHould i get an art course or WHAT?
oh, and for the Bridgman books u told me, i've already booked that from library, but thanx anyways, i might buy it.

hope to see u in SHeridan next 2 years. haha

Revenants
January 17th, 2005, 04:48 PM
I got the high school side down pretty firm, I just have no clue about sheridan so please point out where i can find general info( ie. a presentation to go to, a website link...). The high school credit requirement means that you have to take visual art for grade 12. If your going to take a photography course instead, make sure it's either U or M, since some media arts courses are College level instead. It's just a requirement but we all know that our highschool art will not teach anything. I'll try and post a portfolio thread just like yours, but I don't have a scanner and havn't started my portfolio yet.(need info, which i cant find)

darth massacre
January 17th, 2005, 07:15 PM
Argh!!! Freshies are invading this thread! :dur:



Guys just keep asking questions if you're unsure, that's what we're here for. ;)


Hope to see y'all in Sheridan in the future.






-----------------------For Current Students------------------------

We're probably playing soccer again this Wednesday...so if you guys are free and want a workout, just pop by the gym at 3PM and if you see us there, you'll know there are some folks from CA playing. Just don't go shouting "Darth! Darth!"..... :dur: Say "JERRY!" :D

HEROIC
January 17th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Revenants- Hey man, um, there is Sheridan's website, which was realy helpfull for me:
http://www1.sheridaninstitute.ca/

and there is a site for all of the collage infos:

http://www.ontariocolleges.ca/pls/portal30/url/page/ocas_home

u can also grab one of the Sheridan's booklets from your school guidenss,

there are also, i think 6 or more people here which are in SHeridan, u can ask them if u want, just read the thread, and maybe you'll find some of your asnwers,, and if u wait , people will come asnwer your questions.

hope it helps. :^^:
----------------------------
darth massacre- Im really sorry man,, it was all because of me, i ruined this thread,, its really a great thread, and its the only sheridan thread in the whole site.

Maybe sn , like me or u, or softdrawer, or endregan, can make another thread, like: SHeridan INFO, or SHridan art Section, or Sheridan art Students. sth like this.

So, it can help alot of people, and we can move from this thread,
its just an idea!!!!! :thinking:

HEROIC
January 17th, 2005, 10:45 PM
one more thing, I've made my sketch book, but no one is answering anymore, i would like to see a little C&Cs plz. :er:

darth massacre
January 18th, 2005, 02:35 PM
darth massacre- Im really sorry man,, it was all because of me, i ruined this thread,, its really a great thread, and its the only sheridan thread in the whole site.
Geez will you loosen up! I was joking! LOL

Revenants
January 18th, 2005, 03:45 PM
hey guys, I looked through the site before, but I'm still missing info on portfolio requirements. I'm guessing I should start preparing now. I want to go into illustration, but since it's rather hard for high school people to go directly into sheridan(I still want to try), if I fail for the illustration entry, do I automaticly get sent to fundies or what?

thanks

Hexal
January 18th, 2005, 06:18 PM
hey guys, I looked through the site before, but I'm still missing info on portfolio requirements. I'm guessing I should start preparing now. I want to go into illustration, but since it's rather hard for high school people to go directly into sheridan(I still want to try), if I fail for the illustration entry, do I automaticly get sent to fundies or what?

thanks

No, you have to apply for fundies your self, and if you dont get into illustration dont feel bad about going into fundies, sure you get all the down talking from the animation and illustration kids but you do learn alot, things that (from what i hear) teachers except you to know in the main programs that you might not of ever done before.

Revenants
January 18th, 2005, 08:57 PM
So by the time I receive the letter saying that I failed to enter illustration, wouldn't it be too late to apply for fundies? or do I fill out two applications when I apply for college? :^^:

Qian Wang
January 18th, 2005, 09:32 PM
hey guys, I looked through the site before, but I'm still missing info on portfolio requirements. I'm guessing I should start preparing now. I want to go into illustration, but since it's rather hard for high school people to go directly into sheridan(I still want to try), if I fail for the illustration entry, do I automaticly get sent to fundies or what?

thanks

Different programs have different portfolio requirements and they won't sent files out untill Jun. If you have delivered your application form, they will sent a student ID as well as the username and password for logging in ACESSsheridan. You will get your portfolio requirement on your personal webpage.

Qian Wang
January 18th, 2005, 09:36 PM
So by the time I receive the letter saying that I failed to enter illustration, wouldn't it be too late to apply for fundies? or do I fill out two applications when I apply for college? :^^:

there are 3 options in one application. so you could add fundies just under illustration. :)

Hexal
January 19th, 2005, 12:00 AM
So by the time I receive the letter saying that I failed to enter illustration, wouldn't it be too late to apply for fundies? or do I fill out two applications when I apply for college? :^^:

yes, but they time you hear about illustartion the application prosess will have closed at least three months before, you have untill feb 1 to sign up to college courses i believe.

Different programs have different portfolio requirements ....

Fundies requires no portfolio its all based on your highschool marks

softdrawer
January 19th, 2005, 12:09 AM
Fundies requires no portfolio its all based on your highschool marks


..i second that.

darth massacre
January 19th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Hey Ryan (Hexal), haven't seen you in a while now. Even though our lockers are right next to each others (technically diagonally but who cares about details).

Revenant, apply for all the programs you want to try out. Not just for Sheridan. Sheridan Fundies have no portfolio requirement as Hexal states, but Illustration and Animation have their own portfolio tests and requirements.....and the Animation portfolio submission for this year has gotten harder.

Make sure you have a set of artwork you want to submit that you can reproduce....whether its digital artwork printed out or sketches that are lasercopied (photocopy doesn't bring out the tones, lasercopy tend to be more expensive....don't ask me where in Toronto you can get it done, its only my 5th month here in Canada). Get them ready so you can rearrange what you need for different applications for different schools and top up whatever special requirement the different schools need. Just as different schools need different portfolio, you'll discover in due time different jobs you apply for need different resume/portfolio submissions too.

Apply for all of them, then ask yourself what you really want to do.....once you get accepted by any or all schools you applied for, then you can make your choice.

pencilfarmer
January 19th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Question: If I send in my application now for BAA along with a strong life drawing & sculpture portfolio, will I get in?

softdrawer
January 19th, 2005, 11:10 AM
Question: If I send in my application now for BAA along with a strong life drawing & sculpture portfolio, will I get in?


Answer : Possible.

You really can't tell from what ive heard, ive seen some people who have strong skills in character designs and didnt get in last year and are still trying hard for the next one. And i know people in my program (BAA) that have weaker skills in other things and they got in.. I really can't tell anymore, but someone having stong skills in sculpture is a very good thing i believe and they would like that, since its all about stucture. If i were you, id send some good life drawing, bit of sculpture and bit of illustrational stuff that can rock their socks off(that is, original and good looking which prooves that you can create). They always love to see that someone knows how to draw good from life and from imagination. I guess thats what made it possible for me.. i sent paintings for the extra though.

alx

EDIT: Well i just had to say that, lets say you send them a sculpture of a dragon from D&D.. they might not like it. But if you send really cool gestures that demonstrate anatomy in the model, they will love it.. it's all about what you send, not the medium..

WildSpruceMoose
January 19th, 2005, 12:02 PM
Its portfolio time again, oh the uncertainty, the lack of confidence, the nerve wracking month before portfolios. I'll have to start up a thread to get some crits on my work. =D

Revenants
January 19th, 2005, 01:13 PM
wow thanks for all the responses. Just one last thing, do you get to have any non-art electives? Ie. Japanese. Since I'd really like to learn japanese and perhaps if I graduate technical illustration, I'd like to go to japan a few years and work for toyota.

pencilfarmer
January 19th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Thanks for the info softdrawer. Yea all my sculptures are anatomical studies + gesture poses of tragically obese people. Although being an international student might have a negative influence on the chance of being selected. But South Africa is/was part of the commonwealth so maybe that counts for something hehe

softdrawer
January 19th, 2005, 02:21 PM
Thanks for the info softdrawer. Yea all my sculptures are anatomical studies + gesture poses of tragically obese people. Although being an international student might have a negative influence on the chance of being selected. But South Africa is/was part of the commonwealth so maybe that counts for something hehe

Good to hear.

And you shouldnt worry about the selection.. i mean once your art skills gets approved, its just a question of money really. They don't judge people by their race/nationality.. if you got the $$ they want, they accept you. The school doesnt care about the rest. Just give all you got and youre chances are better than good.

alx

endregan
January 19th, 2005, 02:40 PM
geezz it has gotten busy here the last little while eh?

SO is everyone prepping for portfolios? Have to be in soon eh! Good luck everyone.

Looks like everyone else has already answered your questions :)

softdrawer
January 19th, 2005, 02:42 PM
geezz it has gotten busy here the last little while eh?

SO is everyone prepping for portfolios? Have to be in soon eh! Good luck everyone.

Looks like everyone else has already answered your questions :)

Yeah no shit, and where the hell have YOU been? ..crazy illustrator. :wink:

darth massacre
January 20th, 2005, 02:16 AM
And where the hell have you been you crazy Animator! LOL


Hey I'm probably going to the gym for a run this saturday after working on my stuff in class......who's coming?

softdrawer
January 20th, 2005, 04:55 PM
I might.. but i just lost my backpack with all my sketchbooks in it plus my animation stuff.. well everything basicaly. And now my motivation went down the drain so.. ill see how things goes thru the weekend. :[

darth massacre
January 20th, 2005, 08:41 PM
You gotta be shitting me! I hope you lost it in school...coz its gonna be damn hard to get it back if you lost it elsewhere.

Revenants
January 20th, 2005, 09:08 PM
you guys know what general type of drawing I should be submitting for illustration? As it's a year off, I have alot of time to prepare and practice. I normally draw from life(my dog and cats), draw sculptures and off pictures(architecture and portraits). Should I be drawing that stuff and hand it in or should I draw imaginitive things. Oh and someone please answer my question on taking non-art electives? I also heard there was a sheridan, UofT combined thing where I can take some courses at UofT. The main reason is, again, I want to learn japanese.

Thanks
edit: I've found a picture of something i've done. This is a year old though, and I've improved... But anyways, it's gives a rough idea. I don't have a scanner so it's hard for me to get pictures in, here's the link. (btw, you have to type that in the address bar. I'm sorry for using such a gay host but I was too lazy to find a host so I used my old gr.9 geography project thing.)

http://www.geocities.com/mixedwoodplains/aragon.jpg

aico003
January 20th, 2005, 10:03 PM
Argh.. alright finally done with midterms so it looks like I can get STARTED on this portfolio... I'm so very screwed..

For someone who was asking I had some trouble with the ard credit thing. My school guidence sucks and I though I wouldn't be able to meet the requirements for illustration, but it seems that what they mean is that you need an art class in grade 11 or 12. Im not sure what the thing with the letters means, I figured it is some sort of college/university prep course level thing but they said that my drawing course was fine.

Does anyone have an idea of how big a sketchbook should be? I've already missed a figure drawing night thing and two were cancelled in the last month and I only started it about a month ago.. I'm trying really hard to get at least a page done every night but theres never anyone to draw since my brothers got the soccer channel in their room.

tweak_hp
January 20th, 2005, 11:00 PM
draw them watching tv, its good practice

HEROIC
January 21st, 2005, 07:26 AM
Softdrawer-
I might.. but i just lost my backpack with all my sketchbooks in it plus my animation stuff.. well everything basicaly. And now my motivation went down the drain so.. ill see how things goes thru the weekend.

i know how u feel man, cause 2 month a go, i lost whole binder will all of my notes, quizez, tests, student card, TTC card, 50 bucks and so many other stuff, in school, but i didnt know here did i lost it. And i had 2 assignmetns to hand in and 1 test in that week :S , so the day after that, one of my teachers who was really good kind to me, came to guidence, and gave them the binder, so they can send me a paper and call me to guidence.

phew, it was one F*** situation for me, if i didny find it. I hope u left your bag in school. :^^:


Revenants- hey man, wow your drawing is nice,, if u did in in grade 9, it means u do nice drawings now, ehh?
, why did u draw aragon for geography project anyway..haha,, just curious.

aico003-
it seems that what they mean is that you need an art class in grade 11 or 12. Im not sure what the thing with the letters means, I figured it is some sort of college/university prep course level thing but they said that my drawing course was fine.

so, is it the same for Animation too, or is it just for Illustration, cause, if i want to choose a course for next year next month, and if i talk to my Art teacher, she can give me the Grade 12 art , but now im confused. Which one do i need?? :S

Revenants
January 21st, 2005, 09:47 AM
I drew that in gr 10. The gr9 geography project was the geocities account, they're seperate things. As for my drawing skills, it sucks quite alot compared to the other people on this forum. I would just draw from life and keep drawing from life, thats the best way to learn.

As for course requirement, you only need the gr12 art. (I have the sheridan booklet beside me). although to take gr12 art, you would need gr 11 art since its a prerequesite, right?

HEROIC
January 21st, 2005, 10:50 AM
I drew that in gr 10. The gr9 geography project was the geocities account, they're seperate things. As for my drawing skills, it sucks quite alot compared to the other people on this forum. I would just draw from life and keep drawing from life, thats the best way to learn.

As for course requirement, you only need the gr12 art. (I have the sheridan booklet beside me). although to take gr12 art, you would need gr 11 art since its a prerequesite, right?

OMG, i cant believe that,, so i've got to have grade 11 to take grade 12 art. Ah,,,, damn it. So my only solution is just to take the Fundementals from Sheridan right?
hope , i can get that without any other requirements.. i lost my Sheridan booklets.
Fundementals gonna help me alot, for a person like me that jsut started drawing, and need so many improvments. But i've got a question, If i apply for Fundementals next year in January. So, im gonna start the course like, in September 2006,, right???
i think it takes 8 month to finish the fundementals. so if i'll finish on April 2007,, i cant apply for BAA., i 've got to apply on Jan 2008 :\ :\

DOnt tell me im right??? :[

Hexal
January 21st, 2005, 12:24 PM
OMG, i cant believe that,, so i've got to have grade 11 to take grade 12 art. Ah,,,, damn it. So my only solution is just to take the Fundementals from Sheridan right?
hope , i can get that without any other requirements.. i lost my Sheridan booklets.
Fundementals gonna help me alot, for a person like me that jsut started drawing, and need so many improvments. But i've got a question, If i apply for Fundementals next year in January. So, im gonna start the course like, in September 2006,, right???
i think it takes 8 month to finish the fundementals. so if i'll finish on April 2007,, i cant apply for BAA., i 've got to apply on Jan 2008 :\ :\

DOnt tell me im right??? :[



Ok so if you started fundies in Sept 2006, and its ends in april, you can apply for the baa in Jan of 2007 and get in for sept 2007, I dont see where you got 2008 :s . So i guess your wrong. i hope that makes sense.




As for course requirement, you only need the gr12 art. (I have the sheridan booklet beside me). although to take gr12 art, you would need gr 11 art since its a prerequesite, right?

Yes to take Gr 12 art you need 11, I had a simalar problem myself, were i had to take gr 10 art in my grade 11 year, then Gr 11, and 12 art in my Last year. :dad:

Revenants
January 21st, 2005, 03:49 PM
don't panic, I know my art teacher have let students take gr12 art without gr11 art. As for when you apply, I don't see why you cant apply in 2007 as hexal said. Listen, as long you have a visual art gr 12 credit and english and 70% average, you will get into fundies. :^^: anyways, your in gr 11 right now right? that means semester two hasn't even started yet, so hurry up and get an art course in there if you havn't. Oh and I don't think there is any prerequsites for gr11 art, so if you can, take grade 11 visual art next sem. :S

softdrawer
January 21st, 2005, 04:06 PM
Sorry people, im in a shitty-ass mood right now.

Still can't find the damn thing and now its about 90% sure its gone for ever. Strangely enough i always manage to help people around and im the one who gets all the dirt around.. for sake. So yeah i gotta buy a new backpack, sketchbooks, anmation box, books, pencil case (for the 5th time this year fuck) with paint/brushes (those are expensive) and i lost my favorite book : Les vacances du petit nicolas. Thats only the material, then you add all the giant assignments due on monday that i have to do all over again.. Tell you what, if i lose anything else in the next few days im out of this school.

I'm not mad or anything, just sorta depressed heh.

Ill get back at everybody in a few days when i feel better.

alx

Moiss
January 21st, 2005, 05:47 PM
Geez....who would have done that?

Shit man..... I hate it when that happens to me too.......I lost my masking tape twice, I lost my eraser......and I will never let that F***ing thing happens to me again...... >:|

I just extremely hate it......F***ing Kleptomaniac...

I've always been very cautious since that F***ing thing happened to me..

Alex, did you try the security? they might be a help...

I'm sorry to hear that......

endregan
January 21st, 2005, 06:37 PM
yeah alex that sucks...

we will all be on the lookout. most likely someone from art area so maybe moiss and my bro can keep a lookout in fundies and us illustration guys can too. You never know, the person who took it would almost be the most likely to boast about it to get attention.

Where exactly did you lose it?

The same thing happened to someone in my class. Whole portfolio just vanished.

I dont understand it!

HEROIC
January 21st, 2005, 07:14 PM
don't panic, I know my art teacher have let students take gr12 art without gr11 art. As for when you apply, I don't see why you cant apply in 2007 as hexal said. Listen, as long you have a visual art gr 12 credit and english and 70% average, you will get into fundies. :^^: anyways, your in gr 11 right now right? that means semester two hasn't even started yet, so hurry up and get an art course in there if you havn't. Oh and I don't think there is any prerequsites for gr11 art, so if you can, take grade 11 visual art next sem. :S

All my courses started From Sep and end on June, so i cant take any course in next semester, :S .. man , what can i do,, aaa, its making me crazy!!!!! im so worried about it.

so, from what u said i've got to have grade 12 art to take fundies in sheridan. man, im stuck! i think i've got to check out for summer school courses!! :dead:

Revenants
January 21st, 2005, 09:10 PM
actually, I rechecked it. it says:
One English, Grade 12 (C or U) or two senior-level credits in English

for fundies anyways, animation still needed the arts.
so I guess, all you need is english. did I scare you? :rolleyes:

HEROIC
January 21st, 2005, 09:42 PM
actually, I rechecked it. it says:
One English, Grade 12 (C or U) or two senior-level credits in English

for fundies anyways, animation still needed the arts.
so I guess, all you need is english. did I scare you? :rolleyes:

Phew, man, u almost killed me, lol

ok, so i can apply for fundies next year sep 2006, and i can apply for the BAA on Sep 2007.

Oh, and if i dont take any art course, i still can go to fundies, and then BAA, right?

by the way, Revenants plz make a thread for your sketches. I wanna see your stuff!

softdrawer
January 22nd, 2005, 02:03 AM
Im 90% sure i left the thing by the exit door near our animation studio.. went to the buffet, came back 2 hours later and it vanished. I checked every single room in the school..asked everybody in animation, and asked the security about 1 million times.

option 1 : some stranger passing by in the animation wing found it, thinking it was lost (dunno why, just leave it there for fukc sake) and will give it back at some random time (i fucking need it now).

option 2 : some one took it for its own, maybe for selling back or just meanfully..

Then again, if someone just found it, i would of get it back by now...or the person would of gave the thing to the security (that would be smart, not keep it for a week..)

So im about 99% sure ill never see the thing again.. only i fuken miracle could save me here... but that just doesnt happen.
















...i need to get drunk. :vodkamachine:

darth massacre
January 22nd, 2005, 02:25 AM
Then again, if someone just found it, i would of get it back by now...or the person would of gave the thing to the security (that would be smart, not keep it for a week..)
I'm assuming you've checked with the security office in B wing already. I lost my wallet in school once and it found its way to my teacher (by the graces of a 2nd yr Animation student) and he passed it to security.

I found a wallet on one of the shelves in the bookstore.....I wonder how the hell anyone could leave their wallet on the bookstore shelves. Didn't even take a look.....sent it to the security office.

Anyway if its in school there's still a tiny chance of getting it back. I thought you left it somewhere outside of school....which would then, suck big time.



Hey dude, keep looking and keep your spirits up.....well try......you ain't out of the fight yet.

endregan
January 22nd, 2005, 01:18 PM
Hey jerry im at the school doing OB drawing now. Where are ya? You think this winter storm stops me. NEVARRR!!!!! It was actually pretty warm, just cant see 5 feet in front of you

WildSpruceMoose
January 22nd, 2005, 03:10 PM
Haha come on bro, the weather is insane today! I've been drawing since 12, so don't worry =D Just practising up for portfolio, think I have a decent study of a still life I want to develop further. I even drew my feet!

Once I get the right software to fix my scanner problems I'll start posting some of my portfolio stuff. I really hope I can get the portfolio done in quality by feb 25th.

aico003
January 22nd, 2005, 10:42 PM
Make sure you call Sheridan before you assume you can't get accepted for a program, they seem to be pretty lax with the acedemic requirements.. the portfolio is probably really competitive though.

I keep hating my schools guidence more and more. I made an appointment a few weeks ago when I was sure you needed an art course senior year to try to sign up for one next semester (starts monday) and find out the only two at an appropriate level are during english or french (which I had tried to drop at the beginning of the year). Of course they're useless so I can't drop anything because then you don't get credit for the class (I don't care about the damned credits)... anyways I'll try not to rant too much but I found out last friday in french class that a girl wasn't there because she had to sign up for the art class next semester to get accepted for school, sound farmiliar?

So I've been drawing in my sketchbook every day and I wanna get started on the portfolio. Does anyone know if the creativity part of the drawing test, where you need a sphere, cube and cylander that change need to retain that shape for the result? Does the school want stuff in colour or certain mediums(when it's not specified)? Any information or opinions will be really appreciated. Thanks again everyone and good luck.