Sheridan Information Please!

[Ebillan]

I imagine the whole point of them is so that you GET good, and that they are not only for those that ARE good. And I would think that they were supposed to have started on the first day of school, but I heard on orientation that the model situation may be affected by the strike. So I am not sure the status on it currently...I plan on asking on Tuesday.

Aw, damn it! That's right. I forgot that models would be affected too, ugh!
I don't know when they're supposed to start either. And they certainly aren't going to tell you that you aren't "good" enough to show up at the extra life drawing classes, hahah c:

[Andrew Sonea]

Aw, damn it! That's right. I forgot that models would be affected too, ugh!
I don't know when they're supposed to start either. And they certainly aren't going to tell you that you aren't "good" enough to show up at the extra life drawing classes, hahah c:

Yup, models and Cintiqs are affected. The two things I looked most forward to...

[Ebillan]

Yup, models and Cintiqs are affected. The two things I looked most forward to...

Absolutely.
The best classes at OCAD last year for me were the model classes, I love drawing people. And I was so excited about the Cintiqs. Whyyy? ;-;

[Butterknife]

I imagine the whole point of them is so that you GET good, and that they are not only for those that ARE good. And I would think that they were supposed to have started on the first day of school, but I heard on orientation that the model situation may be affected by the strike. So I am not sure the status on it currently...I plan on asking on Tuesday.

Sank you Andrew Sonea <3. I saw your art, and creeped your art blog, and have seen some of the advice you've given people. Like the importance of learning anatomy, and you mentioned something about skull studies to help learn the proportions of the face to draw from anatomy.

I luff your art as well <3. I hope there will be some other people there who are just atrocious like me haha..So I don't feel completely like the odd man out.

[Lynn_]

So I'm in these classes for illustration, and I attended the orientation, some of you might have noticed me as the girl with the tail > < lol
Anywaysss

Mondays

Conceptual Process 1
11:30-2:30

Tuesdays

Representational Draw/Paint 1
8:00 - 11:00

World Cinemas
12:00-3:00

Wednesdays

Representational Draw/Paint 1
12:00-3:00

Thursdays:
Illustration Life Drawing Principals
9:00-12:00

Friday is my full day > <
Illustration Design Principals
8:00-11:00

Composition and Rhetoric
12:00-3:00

I know no one in this program > < lol

Dude my schedule is pretty much identical to yours xD

Anyone have a guess for how long the strike will last? I was really looking forward to using the cintiqs and life drawing damn it ;n;

[Andrew Sonea]

Sank you Andrew Sonea <3. I saw your art, and creeped your art blog, and have seen some of the advice you've given people. Like the importance of learning anatomy, and you mentioned something about skull studies to help learn the proportions of the face to draw from anatomy.

I luff your art as well <3. I hope there will be some other people there who are just atrocious like me haha..So I don't feel completely like the odd man out.

Thanks for all the compliments haha! It's great to hear my advice doesn't go unheard.

In terms of skill level, I actually am not sure what the average person in the program is. Obviously one has to have some skill to get into the program, so the skill range won't be that large. I scored 80 on my portfolio, so I believe I am higher than most, but there will be people who scored higher than me too. It should be a mixed bag and should be fun--everyone can learn from everyone else.

[Ebillan]

Oh my God, Andrew, why are you going to art school, your artwork is amazing!

I did really badly on my portfolio- mind you they missed my sketchbook, so that's ten points lost right off the bat.
I'd been hoping that they might divide classes up based on portfolio grades, because I do know they said that they try to get people together that they think would work well together, but clearly that's not the case.

[APiggy]

Obviously one has to have some skill to get into the program, so the skill range won't be that large. I scored 80 on my portfolio, so I believe I am higher than most, but there will be people who scored higher than me too. It should be a mixed bag and should be fun--everyone can learn from everyone else.

Looking at your portfolio, I think the skill range *is* large ._.U

I did really badly on my portfolio- mind you they missed my sketchbook, so that's ten points lost right off the bat.
I'd been hoping that they might divide classes up based on portfolio grades, because I do know they said that they try to get people together that they think would work well together, but clearly that's not the case.

I asked them about the blocks and they said it's random >_> Oh and we are supposed to have only 25 people per block/class, but this year, some classes will have 26 people.

By the way, did we get any list for books/ art supplies? What are we supposed to bring to class this first week?

Oh and could anyone tell me some places where i can buy cheap art materials? I think they mentioned two places during orientation? I didn't catch the name & location of the stores...

[Andrew Sonea]

Looking at your portfolio, I think the skill range *is* large ._.U



I asked them about the blocks and they said it's random >_> Oh and we are supposed to have only 25 people per block/class, but this year, some classes will have 26 people.

By the way, did we get any list for books/ art supplies? What are we supposed to bring to class this first week?

Oh and could anyone tell me some places where i can buy cheap art materials? I think they mentioned two places during orientation? I didn't catch the name & location of the stores...

The two places mentioned were a little store at the school (which he warned can be very overpriced in some things but not necessarily all) and a Curry's Art Store that I think was across the street not too far from the school. I think there is an Omer De Serres somewhere within Oakville as well, but I'm not entirely sure where.

[Lynn_]

Looking at your portfolio, I think the skill range *is* large ._.U



I asked them about the blocks and they said it's random >_> Oh and we are supposed to have only 25 people per block/class, but this year, some classes will have 26 people.

By the way, did we get any list for books/ art supplies? What are we supposed to bring to class this first week?

Oh and could anyone tell me some places where i can buy cheap art materials? I think they mentioned two places during orientation? I didn't catch the name & location of the stores...

If you turn right from the Trafalgar Campus and drive down then take a left on Iroquois Shore Rd. the Curry's is the third left (you won't miss it). And DeSerres, from the Trafalgar campus, take a left and keep on driving up until you reach Dundas then take a right on Dundas. It's pretty much right across from the Silvercity players and it's in the same plaza as the PetSmart.
I'm not too sure which one has the better deals, I've heard DeSerres but I just go to Curry's because it's convenient :P

[APiggy]

Thank you, Andrew, Lynn :teeth: I'm checking out their pages and I like DeSerres more, but Curry's is definitely more conveniently located :)

So what did you guys get to prepare for classes? I'm not sure what to buy... :^^;:

[Lynn_]

Thank you, Andrew, Lynn :teeth: I'm checking out their pages and I like DeSerres more, but Curry's is definitely more conveniently located :)

So what did you guys get to prepare for classes? I'm not sure what to buy... :^^;:

No problem :)

Were you at orientation? I actually got an email from one of my profs (do we all have the same profs idk) and I bout a big pad of newsprint, two bulldog clips, and some conte. One of the drawing/ art courses wanted an notebook, but I can't remember which one :|

Anybody bought an textbooks yet? I honestly don't know when I should get them :S

[Andrew Sonea]

Thank you, Andrew, Lynn :teeth: I'm checking out their pages and I like DeSerres more, but Curry's is definitely more conveniently located :)

So what did you guys get to prepare for classes? I'm not sure what to buy... :^^;:

I uh...haven't bought any supplies yet haha. I already have some stuff (enough to last a bit?) like some paints and brushes, a few canvases, a sketchbook, some newsprint etc. I don't think it will last very long and will probably shop sometime in the first week or two once I get an idea of what exactly I'll need.

[APiggy]

I attended the orientation, but I don't remember anything about art supplies/textbooks.... :^^;:

And nope, I didn't get any mail from any professors...

[Andrew Sonea]

I attended the orientation, but I don't remember anything about art supplies/textbooks.... :^^;:

And nope, I didn't get any mail from any professors...

With the possible exception of your electives, I was told at Orientation that there are no textbooks we need, although they may recommend some books (such as one for anatomy) to help out in a particular course.

[APiggy]

It's great that we don't need textbooks :D I wish they'd given us supply bags like what they gave to the Art Fundamental students though..

[Lynn_]

Isn't there a textbook for composition and rhetoric?
I guess they'll just tell us during class.

I kind of like that they didn't give us the starter kit, that way we can buy our own products and customize our supplies (and learn the differences between brands ><)

[Sacari]

When you guys go to Curry's, be sure to bring your student ID, you get 10% off :D

[Cloverbell]

Isn't there a textbook for composition and rhetoric?
I guess they'll just tell us during class.

I kind of like that they didn't give us the starter kit, that way we can buy our own products and customize our supplies (and learn the differences between brands ><)

I've taken essay writing course before and I don't find textbooks to be too helpful as everything you need to know about setting up a well written academic paper can be found for free on educational websites like this one: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/01/

...unless the professor demands you use their material for whatever reason it may be. You will most likely do more academic research and writing responses to articles opposed to sticking your nose in a textbook. Then it's best to use it or borrow it from someone who has it or get a copy somehow. I personally think buying English textbooks are a waste of money.

Literature on the other hand.... that's a different story. ;) The philosophy course elective I'm taking will probably require us to read Franz Kafka or Kierkegaard or something.

[Devi23]

Oh god, please tell me there is an animation student here
I missed the animation orientation 2 days ago on the 29th (I know fucking irresponsible, it slipped my mind)

Can anyone please tell me if the orientation gave out something super important? I am going tomorrow to find out as much as I can about the orientation and/or pick up some things
I went to orientation and this is what happened :)

-They told us to bring these supplies to get us through the week:
Pencils, blue pencils, erasers, graphite, animation paper and an animation peg.

-Extra life drawing sessions are from 6-9 everyday weekday (the models are clothed on Thursday) and from 1-4 on weekends.

-"Preston Blair's Cartoon Animation" is recommend reading

-You can buy a lock and find a locker for it, but if the AA and A Wings are filled I heard the E Wing's a good spot.

-Mark Mayerson also suggested that animation students send him a link to their online gallery or blog, so it can be added to the "Sheridan College Animation: Links to Successful Applicant Portfolios" website.

-And you need a Sheridan ID if you don't already have one :)

Hope this helps!

[Butterknife]

Does anyone in Art Fundies or VCA know what we should bring from our art kit to the Intro to Drawing/Intro to 3d design courses?

Thanks :)

[visoutre]

I wonder what year it will be when this thread hits 200 pages.


@Butterknife
I'm not in Fundies or VCA this year, but I figured I'd answer your question.

For Intro to Drawing (that's life drawing right?)
- newsprint
- conte sticks (bring all them)
- conte pencil
- kneaded eraser
- sandpaper thingy if they gave you one
- general stuff (pencils, white eraser, sharpener)
- sketchbook...just in case


For 3D I don't think you'll do anything besides some drawing for your first project, but in case they changed the program from last year you should bring:
- knife (OLFA or whatever it is)
- pliers (for cutting the wires)
- tape
- clay tools
- layout paper (I think you need this to draw your rough work on)
- pencils, erasers
- large metal ruler
- also bring a sketchbook to doodle in

That's about all you should need to start out. The teacher will tell you what else you need to buy. Have fun, first week is soooooo exciiiiiiiting!!!

[Lilac]

I apologize if this is a strange question..but I didn't know where else to ask or get information on the subject. Sorry in advance for my ignorance here.

I'm an American citizen who wishes to apply and take part for Sheridan's animation program in a year or two (and maybe art foundations if I must) but I'm curious about the acceptance rate for international students and if American/and or international students attending Sheridan for animation or illustration is a common thing? I realize that Canadian citizens are first up for consideration since it's the home country but what exactly are my odds here...? the school is my top choice for an animation degree.

thanks in advance.

[visoutre]

I apologize if this is a strange question..but I didn't know where else to ask or get information on the subject. Sorry in advance for my ignorance here.

I'm an American citizen who wishes to apply and take part for Sheridan's animation program in a year or two (and maybe art foundations if I must) but I'm curious about the acceptance rate for international students and if American/and or international students attending Sheridan for animation or illustration is a common thing? I realize that Canadian citizens are first up for consideration since it's the home country but what exactly are my odds here...? the school is my top choice for an animation degree.

thanks in advance.



@Lilac
There is no ignorant questions, ask away.

It is usually harder for international students to get accepted to animation. I think the reason is there are only a certain number of seats for international students. With the number of international students applying, the score you will need to get is higher than the Canadian score. Like last year I had a friend from America whose score was above 3.0 (the cut-off for Canadians), but he didn't get in because it was below the international score. (I think theirs was 3.3 or something). Otherwise he should have gotten in.

With that being said a lot of people I know got 3.6 or higher on their portfolio, so if you're good enough, you should get in regardly of where you're from.

As for fundies it is pretty expensive for international students, but supposedly 75% of the people who got into animation this year took art fundies, so maybe it's worth it (personally helped me a lot).

[Lilac]

@Lilac
There is no ignorant questions, ask away.

It is usually harder for international students to get accepted to animation. I think the reason is there are only a certain number of seats for international students. With the number of international students applying, the score you will need to get is higher than the Canadian score. Like last year I had a friend from America whose score was above 3.0 (the cut-off for Canadians), but he didn't get in because it was below the international score. (I think theirs was 3.3 or something). Otherwise he should have gotten in.

With that being said a lot of people I know got 3.6 or higher on their portfolio, so if you're good enough, you should get in regardly of where you're from.

As for fundies it is pretty expensive for international students, but supposedly 75% of the people who got into animation this year took art fundies, so maybe it's worth it (personally helped me a lot).
thanks for answering my question. I tend to have a bit of trouble with drawing bodies due to being out of practice. I'm in community college for now taking art classes to kick my butt into gear (as well as save up more tuition money) would that help get me ready to start on the portfolio?

also whats is the scoring based off of and what are good examples of 3.6 work? also what is the international art fundamentals tuition?

[Butterknife]

Does anybody have any tips for lifedrawing since we're heading into that in this second week now? I never tend to draw the shape of the body well enough.. I was told it's good to think of the body in bigger shapes, but I find it so hard for myself to do that. It seems like all of my 30 second drawings are spazzy stick figures because I can't get down the forms properly.

I know this is a long process of practice, but I've been trying for a long time, and I just don't know how to get myself on the right path with this -.-. I don't want to draw stick figures in the extra life drawing sessions loool :(.

[visoutre]

thanks for answering my question. I tend to have a bit of trouble with drawing bodies due to being out of practice. I'm in community college for now taking art classes to kick my butt into gear (as well as save up more tuition money) would that help get me ready to start on the portfolio?

also whats is the scoring based off of and what are good examples of 3.6 work? also what is the international art fundamentals tuition?


If you have life drawing class 3+ times a week then you should be fine with the community college. Otherwise if the course content isn't that great it might take away time you could be practicing on your portfolio.

When you apply they'll give you a rubric which details the scoring system. Unfortuantely I'm using a slow computer so I can't show you the real rubric, but basically they give you marks in these areas:
- Story
- Performance
- Believable Character
- Line Quality
- Proportion
- Sctructure
- Perspective/ Spatial Volume
- Composition
- Creativity
- Overall Impact

The most important elements which are marked on every assignment are these:
- LINE QUALITY
- PROPORTION
- STRUCTURE
- PERSPECTIVE

The other categories are important because they can make or break your chances, but in general focus on those 4 because they get marked the hardest.

Also a piece of advice, don't even bother spending hours on personal artwork because it's only worth 2 marks. I threw in some crappy life drawings + a decent layout and they seemed to like that. They love life drawings and animation styled artwork. Some people do these 40 hour epic fully rendered drawings and thats just time wasted which could be spent improving your other pieces (still if you enjoy doing that kid of art I'm sure they appreciate the skill).

Unfortuantely I don't know the exact tuition of international students, but I heard it was 2-3X more than Canadian tution. So maybe $6000-$9000?? Animation is more expensive too unfortunately. Like over $20,000. Seems unreal to me, so you should contact the school to find the exact tuition.

If you want to see good examples of portfolio work, then check out http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/students-2 . Most of those drawings are 4 level quality. Study how those students handled things like line quality, composition, structure, etc.

There's also http://sheridananimation.blogspot.com/ . That blog has links to all the student blogs and some students put their portfolio up. You can also see how awesome the upper years are...

Recently a former student created a blog with animation portfolio tips http://sheridanportfoliotips.blogspot.com/ . I didnt see that blog when I applied, but it looks like a great resourse.

So hope that answers your questions. The portfolio seems like a lot of work, but what I recommend is make a few real quick practice portfolios starting now so you can get used to them and figure out what your weaknesses are. Then up to and during the winter break just study and work on your weaknesses until you improve. Then make an updated portfolio and you'll already see the improvment. From then until the due date you can keep revising the portfolio and it'll keep getting better. This is better than spending a long time on one version of a portfolio because the first one always sucks.

And from what I'm getting in week 1 of animation there will be lots of revisions of your assignments, so get used to it. I already had to redo some assignments and they're not even due until week 4! It's just simple bouncy ball animation stuff haha. Imagine real character animation. :O But each time i redrew it the teacher had less to critique. I know you didn't ask about this, but I thought I would throw the tip out there. Good luck with your portfolio!

[visoutre]

Does anybody have any tips for lifedrawing since we're heading into that in this second week now? I never tend to draw the shape of the body well enough.. I was told it's good to think of the body in bigger shapes, but I find it so hard for myself to do that. It seems like all of my 30 second drawings are spazzy stick figures because I can't get down the forms properly.

I know this is a long process of practice, but I've been trying for a long time, and I just don't know how to get myself on the right path with this -.-. I don't want to draw stick figures in the extra life drawing sessions loool :(.

Since I have too much time on my hands I can give you some general tips for doing life drawing @ Sheridan. These are just my opinions, so if someone has better suggestions share!!

First thing don't expect going to life drawing every day will make you better unless you read the anatomy books in addition to life drawing. If you read the books and study professional figure drawings you will understand what people mean when you think of the body in bigger shapes. Actually shapes is a bad way of thinking about it because shapes are flat (unless you're using a sighting drawing technique which isn't that useful for animation). They also probably meant instead of drawing say, the detailed contour of the arm with all the muscle bulges, the simple shape would be cylinders.

So in life drawing you would look at the model and instead of focusing on the outside contours, see them as the art figure dude who is built from cylinders,spheres, etc. This requires some abstract obsevation.

You also want to think of the body in terms of FORMS, not neccessarly shapes. There are three key forms of the body: the head, ribcage and pelvis. You can represent these as spheres, cylinders or boxes.

However I'm getting ahead of myself because there is an important primary step! Even if you're doing a 30 second pose, spend the first 5 seconds or less studying the model without drawing! Drawing without observation in life drawing class is pointless.

Observe these things to start:
- line of action
- tilt of shoulders
- tilt of pelvis
- tilt of head (and direction eyes are looking)
- skeletal landmarks! (this is why you need to study the anatomy of the skeleton. The landmarks will show up on the model and will help you will getting the proportion right)
- the perspective (like which foot is in front of which?)
- where is the weight? (Which side of the body has the most weight supported? this affects the tilt of the pelvis too)
- where is the horizon line! (since its life drawing some people forget about this, but it's still important because it effects how much you see certain parts of the body. Also if you're standing then sit down during a long pose, you'll see the perspective changes because you lower the horizon line).
- Overlap! (part of foreshortening and creating depth)
+ some more I forgot

So basically it's okay to start with the "stick figure" if that stick figure consists of the line of action, tilts of the ribcage/pelvis/head and suggestions for limbs. Don't expect your 30 second poses to look good though, instead try to look for these elements in the model.

RANDOM TIP: actually since you'll do so many 30 second poses it wastes newsprint, so rotate your newspint horizontally and draw 3-5 poses per page. Your teacher might not allow that in class, but in extra life drawing it'll save you $$$. Draw on both sides too unless you're handing it in for an assignment or portfolio piece.

ANOTHER RANDOM TIP: Use the conte sticks, not the conte pencils. You get better line quality. Also use the SIDE of the conte sticks to draw, don't hold it like a pencil! My teacher didn't show us this until the 9th week or so which was a shame because it was such an awesome revelation. Ask your teacher to show you how to hold the conte properly.

There's more but I reaaally should be doing my homework and I also don't think you wanted such a long response to your questions (sorry I got carried away).

Don't worry if you don't get all of this information at first because your teacher will explain it eventually throughout the course. The class does go really slow at first, but halfway through it will pick up and become intennnnse! You learn everything you need for the portfolio by winter break. If you get burned out from life drawing or don't improve as fast as you want that's fine. Just take a break for a week, read some books instead and next week you should do better.

Oh crap I keep forgetting important things! If you haven't already, sign up to get a life drawing tutor! It's REAL IMPORTANT! You pay over $3000 for the program and the tutor is only 20 bucks!! I don't know why everyone in the course doesn't get a tutor, you're cheating yourself if you dont. I owe most of my success to my tutors and the best thing is they know way more than I do, plus they will not only answer your questions but draw with you. There's no better way to learn than that.

[Ryn]

Lifedrawing protip. Buy this: http://www.amazon.ca/Force-Dynamic-Life-Drawing-Animators/dp/0240808452/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315540981&sr=8-1

[Lilac]

one last question does Illustration have a scoring system as well? how hard is that for international students?

[Butterknife]

Damn Visoutre, you are just a god damned king. All of those suggestions were awesome :)! A double thanks for the rotating the newsprint pad, I knew I was going to go through a ton of it. I also think you're right about needing to understand anatomy while substituting it with lifedrawing.. That's something I will start as well.

You were right that they probably meant more basic forms, like cylinders for the arms, egg shapes for the ribcage. I've always started my drawings with the head.. Not the line of action lol.. But I did try that last night, and it did go a lot better, though my drawings were quite shit.

I also tried sitting in the library for two hours and drawing from a Hogarth figure drawing book.. That was essentially pointless, as yeah, it just feels like I'm copying something half-assed without knowing what is where on the body. Anatomy anatomy :'(

How do you sign up for Life Drawing Tutors?? I definitely will if I can find out how to.

Edit- And Ryn, I got that book you suggested as well, I hope it helps :)!

[Andrew Sonea]

Damn Visoutre, you are just a god damned king. All of those suggestions were awesome :)! A double thanks for the rotating the newsprint pad, I knew I was going to go through a ton of it. I also think you're right about needing to understand anatomy while substituting it with lifedrawing.. That's something I will start as well.

You were right that they probably meant more basic forms, like cylinders for the arms, egg shapes for the ribcage. I've always started my drawings with the head.. Not the line of action lol.. But I did try that last night, and it did go a lot better, though my drawings were quite shit.

I also tried sitting in the library for two hours and drawing from a Hogarth figure drawing book.. That was essentially pointless, as yeah, it just feels like I'm copying something half-assed without knowing what is where on the body. Anatomy anatomy :'(

How do you sign up for Life Drawing Tutors?? I definitely will if I can find out how to.

Edit- And Ryn, I got that book you suggested as well, I hope it helps :)!

I wouldn't start with Hogarth...his stuff is...not the best. Some of it may be useful for some people, but in general I would recommend avoiding him, especially if you are just starting out. The most ridiculous part about his books is that he doesn't actually show any bones! How can you draw a figure without knowing the bones?!

I always recommend getting two anatomy books--Bridgman and Peck. Bridgman is godly and will help you with the forms and understand how everything fits together and how to represent it, but at times may be a bit hard to understand since it is very sketchy. Peck is more scientific and accurate and clear, but if you only study him you will have very stiff drawings and won't understand the forms properly. When you use the two books in combination they compensate for each other's weaknesses.

The most important thing to do is to study bones first. You may be bored and want to skip to muscles, but the bones are so crucial for drawing the figure that you cannot afford to skip studying them. Furthermore it is useless to study the muscles without studying the bones first since you need to know the origins and insertions of each muscle and how they relate to the bones.

[Lynn_]

one last question does Illustration have a scoring system as well? how hard is that for international students?

I'm not too sure about the score for international students, but the minimum score this year for illustration was 55. This year was pretty low, but for Canadian students I think the yearly average is in the mid 60s, maybe high 50s (forgot to say they score out of 100 for your portfolio). I'd think mid 70s for an international student should be pretty safe.

Just keep in mind the animation and illustration portfolios are looking for different styles and methods of communicating seeing as the courses themselves are extremely different.


I always recommend getting two anatomy books--Bridgman and Peck. Bridgman is godly and will help you with the forms and understand how everything fits together and how to represent it, but at times may be a bit hard to understand since it is very sketchy. Peck is more scientific and accurate and clear, but if you only study him you will have very stiff drawings and won't understand the forms properly. When you use the two books in combination they compensate for each other's weaknesses.


Thanks for posting this Andrew, after the first week of class I realize I'm going to need a fair amount of help with drawing the figure haha. Any specific books from Bridgman that you recommend?

[Butterknife]

I LUFF U ANDREW. Do you have many friends at school? Could I hire you as a tutor lol??! I'm going to look more into Peck. I'm also going to try to start with the bones, move to muscles, then eventually the outer stuff.. I have no idea how I'll begin this, but I'll try to get as much info as I can.

Also, does anyone have any idea of places that might be available for rent that aren't filled with rabbit shit & flies? I APPRECIATE ALL INFOZ

Edit- Where do you even hire life drawing tutors x.x, I want oneee

[Andrew Sonea]

Lynn: DON'T buy his Drawing from Life book. It's just a combination of parts of his other books and doesn't flow or hold together very well. I'd recommend either Constructive Anatomy or the Human Machine. The Human Machine is better organized in my opinion but has very sketchy drawing that can be hard to understand at times. Constructive Anatomy is a bit clearer at times.

Butterknife: I'm only in first year, so there are certainly better tutors out there! If you like though I can meet up with you to draw or give some tips :)

[visoutre]

Edit- Where do you even hire life drawing tutors x.x, I want oneee



To get a tutor for life drawing you go to this page (http://www.sheridancollege.ca/Services/Student%20Support%20Services/Career%20Centre/Get%20Tutoring/Help%20with%20Other%20Subjects.aspx)and wait until sept 12. Then the online application form becomes available. Fill it out and wait a few weeks for an email (I guess the stike affects tutoring match up).

The email tells you to bring $20 to the career centre (D103). What happened last year is they did group tutoring so there was a different tutor each day of the week. Same should happen this year as well. $20 for 20 hours of tutoring. daaaaamm

[Butterknife]

Butterknife: I'm only in first year, so there are certainly better tutors out there! If you like though I can meet up with you to draw or give some tips :)

Lol, I wouldn't waste your time =(, I'm really terrible. Once I start to develop some kind of adequacy I'd love to get tips from you. So hopefully you'll be available then :).

And thank you so much visoutre.. You're the treasure of this sheridan thread lol.

Extra life drawing starts tomorrow.. I'm so scared :(.

[Andrew Sonea]

Lol, I wouldn't waste your time =(, I'm really terrible. Once I start to develop some kind of adequacy I'd love to get tips from you. So hopefully you'll be available then :).

And thank you so much visoutre.. You're the treasure of this sheridan thread lol.

Extra life drawing starts tomorrow.. I'm so scared :(.

Haha, the better you get the harder it is to give critiques :P. But yeah it's not a waste of time at all to meet up. If you want, after school a couple times a week I've been meeting up with Jordan and Bhagat (Flashjordon and Prince911 on the forums) and you can join us. We're starting up a mini group that will meet and then draw people in the cafeteria or the Learning Commons.

Also, where did you hear about the extra life drawing? I heard it wouldn't start for another week or two. What room is it in? Are you sure it starts tomorrow? I wanna goooooo!

[Lycoris]

Hey guys, I was wondering... um, I'm not really strong in my perspective drawings (room drawing, buildings, objects). So do you know any good books that could give me some right directions for drawing good perspectives? I would really appreciate it, thanks :)

edit: Also I don't know how to do structural lines like this... :/

http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/animaion-portfolio/sonia-furier (the pelvis in the middle) Are there any good books or tutorials out there that could help me construct good lines and such??

Thanks guys!

[Butterknife]

Haha, the better you get the harder it is to give critiques :P. But yeah it's not a waste of time at all to meet up. If you want, after school a couple times a week I've been meeting up with Jordan and Bhagat (Flashjordon and Prince911 on the forums) and you can join us. We're starting up a mini group that will meet and then draw people in the cafeteria or the Learning Commons.

Also, where did you hear about the extra life drawing? I heard it wouldn't start for another week or two. What room is it in? Are you sure it starts tomorrow? I wanna goooooo!

I'd absolutely loveeeee to do that, if you don't mind having someone really shit along with you guys. I bet I could learn a lot from all of you.

I heard from my lecturers, it's supposedly for art fundamentals and vca students, but anyone could probably sneak in. I think it's in room A107 at 6:00. I'm going there at about 5:30 today or maybe 5:00 to make sure I get a spot lol. I hope I'm not misinformed x.x.. But all of my lecturers did say it started this week.

Edit - I'd sent you a friend request on facebook if that's not too weird >.>, I thought it might be easier to get in contact with you about the sketch group if you'd let me join you.

[Butterknife]

That was a disaster lol. I've realized I'm at the bottom of a mountain still =(. Couldn't draw any of the people modeling for shite. Soso bad. Oh well, I'll have to keep trying I suppose.

[flash jordan]

That was a disaster lol. I've realized I'm at the bottom of a mountain still =(. Couldn't draw any of the people modeling for shite. Soso bad. Oh well, I'll have to keep trying I suppose.

Be confident man. Improvement will come!

[Andrew Sonea]

That was a disaster lol. I've realized I'm at the bottom of a mountain still =(. Couldn't draw any of the people modeling for shite. Soso bad. Oh well, I'll have to keep trying I suppose.

In addition to what Jordan said, keep in mind the fact that there was no model that showed up didn't help haha. None of the people volunteering were very good at it and the fact that there were clothes just complicated things (and ruined many gestures).

[Butterknife]

Thanks for the encouragement.. I hope improvement comes in some form haha.

Huge thanks as well to you three for running the night without a model, I think everyone would have left after five minutes if you guys didn't show up.

[donatello]

Hi there everyone :D
I guess I better start with a quick introduction.
My name's Niki, and I'm currently going into grade 12 starting on the 6th, and hoping to apply for Sheridan's animation program this fall :3

I've gone to an open house, and been toured by a student myself. I've also contacted a few students who are going into their first and second year of animation for extra info and tips, concerning the portfolio.

I was hoping to get some info from you guys too, I've been reading a bit of this forum, starting from 2009 (theres no way I'm reading the whole thing lmao) and I've gotten a lot of info already ^_^

Anyway, what I wanted to ask was if Digital Art (meaning photoshop drawings) are accepted for the 5 personal works. I've been told that yes, its fine, but I came across (here on this forum) that they prefer not to have it, and now that kinda freaks me out :S
I've been doing digital art for 3 years, and I'd say its acceptable to be put into a portfolio, but I don't want to be docked marks or anything if I do :S

I'm really nervous about the life drawing part of the portfolio as well. I'm about a 20 min drive away from Toronto, and wondering if there are any classes nearby that I could take during a weekend in the fall, before holidays/etc. Oshawa area, anywhere there, even Toronto would be fine with me :3

Also, I'm may post a few WIPs on here, and quite possible reply back later through the year with my sketches, just to see if you guys have any advice for me.
For now, my galleries are in my signature, I'd really appreciate if anyone could take their time to let me know what I should work on, if I have a good chance at getting into the program,etc.

Long post o.o Sorry about that ^^;

Thanks in advance! :hugsmile:
yeah ,, I wanted to ask if digital drawings are accepted for other stuff , like character rotation and room line drawing ..

[Nicnak044]

I'm pretty sure those are to be kept traditional only. I haven't seen anyone post any digital works for room and character drawings.
I think I'm just going to stick with submitting one digital piece for my 5 extra's, just to show I can use digital media as well as traditional.

I'm already getting started on life drawings, taking a class starting next week, I'm pretty excited, but nervous, since this will be my first time drawing a nude model lol.

Anyway, best of luck to ya if your applying! Its going to be a lot of work for us, but I'm sure it'll be worth it <3

[whatami]

Hey guys, do you remember when the next try outs for the animation program starts? Going solo this year, so I don't have helpful teachers or classmates to remind me of important dates!

[mutedfaith]

I'm interested in taking the art fundamental program but i think it's going to be hard for me to get to school on time because i live in toronto. do any of you guys know if there is a schedule the starts later then 8am?

[HocusPocus]

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It is right Behind the ARTS Department so, u dont even have to walk all the way around campus to get to class...its sooooo close. I need to move out by end of this month or sooner if possible...again PM me for more info. Thanks /B]

[Lycoris]

Okay, so instead of applying for Animation this year, I'm going to try for Art Fundies, mainly to improve my skills more and find out more about Ontario, the faculty, Sheridan stuff, etc.

Hopefully I can get in!!! :)

[Nicnak044]

Okay, so instead of applying for Animation this year, I'm going to try for Art Fundies, mainly to improve my skills more and find out more about Ontario, the faculty, Sheridan stuff, etc.

Hopefully I can get in!!! :)

Best of luck to ya! I'll be applying for fundies too, just in case I don't get into animation ;P

[Lycoris]

Yeah good luck Nicnac!! Hope you get in to both of them~~:muscle:

[Nicnak044]

Just sending out a question to current Sheridan students...when do they start accepting applications for fall 2012?

[Lycoris]

^ For animation? I heard that you can start applying for it this month. The portfolio hand-in.... I'm not sure. February or March??


Does anyone know when I'll probably start getting the Art Fundamentals acceptance notice? I've applied to it on September, but I'm not sure when they will let people know.

[Nicnak044]

^ Yup, but I checked the site today and its still saying apply for September 2011 :\ I'm guessing by the end of this month, or beginning of November that they'll start opening up for fall 2012 applications. The portfolio I know is to be handed in sometime in February, so I'm good there ^_^

[Nickels]

Hey guys I was wondering if anybody could name some pre collage courses to get into the sheridan animation course. Not too sure about the art fundies though.

[paperquack]

I have a question... Is it hard to get into art fundamentals? My senior grades were mediocre (I'm in my first year in university in a different country, where junior grades mattered, not senior ones -___-) so.. do most people who apply for art fundamentals get in? I'm super nervous.

[Andrew Sonea]

I have a question... Is it hard to get into art fundamentals? My senior grades were mediocre (I'm in my first year in university in a different country, where junior grades mattered, not senior ones -___-) so.. do most people who apply for art fundamentals get in? I'm super nervous.

As far as I know if you are willing to pay you will be accepted into Art Fundies. I'm not quite sure how it works for international students though.

[paperquack]

^

I'm not an international student per se, I got my high school diploma and am studying in a different country, but I'm actually a permanent resident in Canada, so I'll be applying as a Canadian student lol. Hopefully it'll work out.

Thanks for answering my question!

[paperquack]

I suddenly have another question, haha.

If I get into and start Art Fundamentals this January, ending around August, would I still be able to apply for the Illustration Program of 2012, or would I have had to submit a portfolio the same time as everyone else (start of 2012)?

I was thinking I could use art fundies as a way to help out with my portfolio but I guess that won't be happening? :)) And I'll just go for art fundies in september?

[Lynn_]

I suddenly have another question, haha.

If I get into and start Art Fundamentals this January, ending around August, would I still be able to apply for the Illustration Program of 2012, or would I have had to submit a portfolio the same time as everyone else (start of 2012)?

I was thinking I could use art fundies as a way to help out with my portfolio but I guess that won't be happening? :)) And I'll just go for art fundies in september?

Fundies, as far as I know, only starts in September and runs until April. You can apply to illustration this year without fundies (in March I think), but if you feel like you need fundies to get you into the program you'd have to apply for 2013.

And what I've been hearing from the people in my class who have taken art fundamentals, it's not the most helpful program to get you into illustration. The content is actually more structured towards animation than illustration. What does help though, is that you can meet people already in illustration who can talk to you and potentially help you with your portfolio.

[ieva]

Hi there...I've been lurking these forums for a little while now and I have a few questions about Sheridan. Hoping someone can give me some information. I haven't done any art for a very long time (almost all of highschool)...recently I've been trying to get back into it and I would like to apply to Sheridan Art Fundamentals as a mature student (I will be 19 in june without a HS diploma) to build a portfolio and then hope to get into the BA of design or animation at Sheridan. I got a response back from Sheridan telling me that the AF program satisfies the academic requirements for the BA of design, but I didn't ask about Animation. On the sheridan site it says you can apply to Animation after one year of post secondary if you have the required courses. Does this mean just english 12 U OR english U AND 5 other U/M courses? Or does AF satisfy the academic requirements as well? Also how helpful might the AF program be in creating a portfolio for BA of design? I feel as if I am almost starting from scratch with my art again, so I feel like AF would be very beneficial. Thank you for any information! Appreciate it :)

[Lycoris]

I suddenly have another question, haha.

If I get into and start Art Fundamentals this January, ending around August, would I still be able to apply for the Illustration Program of 2012, or would I have had to submit a portfolio the same time as everyone else (start of 2012)?

I was thinking I could use art fundies as a way to help out with my portfolio but I guess that won't be happening? :)) And I'll just go for art fundies in september?

Fundies, as far as I know, only starts in September and runs until April. You can apply to illustration this year without fundies (in March I think), but if you feel like you need fundies to get you into the program you'd have to apply for 2013.

And what I've been hearing from the people in my class who have taken art fundamentals, it's not the most helpful program to get you into illustration. The content is actually more structured towards animation than illustration. What does help though, is that you can meet people already in illustration who can talk to you and potentially help you with your portfolio.

Actually, AF can let you in on September or January, so you can just apply for this January and hope to get in. I heard that Sheridan accepts almost anyone for AF as long as they're willing to pay up front.

If you start around Jan for AF, then you'll probably finish around next year's December (since there are two semesters).

You might not be able to apply for Illustration 2012, but the year after it (like Lynn said).

I heard that AF's not really helpful for some students who are gearing towards Animation, unless they feel that they're not ready or want to have some art college 'experience.' Or they might just want high marks there so that it might benefit them along with their portfolio. Also you get to know your profs and colleagues, so there's a bit of advantage there.

Animation Portfolio Workshop (I think that's what it's called) has got great reviews from former animation students, but the price for it isn't cheap.

Hi there...I've been lurking these forums for a little while now and I have a few questions about Sheridan. Hoping someone can give me some information. I haven't done any art for a very long time (almost all of highschool)...recently I've been trying to get back into it and I would like to apply to Sheridan Art Fundamentals as a mature student (I will be 19 in june without a HS diploma) to build a portfolio and then hope to get into the BA of design or animation at Sheridan. I got a response back from Sheridan telling me that the AF program satisfies the academic requirements for the BA of design, but I didn't ask about Animation. On the sheridan site it says you can apply to Animation after one year of post secondary if you have the required courses. Does this mean just english 12 U OR english U AND 5 other U/M courses? Or does AF satisfy the academic requirements as well? Also how helpful might the AF program be in creating a portfolio for BA of design? I feel as if I am almost starting from scratch with my art again, so I feel like AF would be very beneficial. Thank you for any information! Appreciate it :)

You probably might get in, but they might make you do some tests as a mature student. They won't ask you any hard questions, but it's just to see if you have the basic knowledge and concept. Once you pass the test, you might be able to get in.

But I can't guarantee everything on this. The thing is, you might have to check with the school again since these issues get a bit tricky at times.

AF does seem to do the trick since the requirement just asked for two semesters of post-secondary education. I heard that AF used to be a requirement for Animation students, but they changed some rules so now it's like this.

AF might help you out with the marks. Basically they probably want to see if you've got the drive or not, so good marks might help with your portfolio. AF won't help you too much with technical skills for Animation, but you at least get to explore all kinds of art mediums and meet the profs and (future Animation) friends, so it might help you with it there.

[Butterknife]

Bonjour Sheridan peoples.. So I was originally living in a place that wasn't being kept up to standards, to put it mildly.

I was wondering if anyone had a spot available, or knew of any friends that were renting a place to live?

Thanks <3

[Lycoris]

Hey you guys, for any students who took the fundies, what was it like? Was it easy, hard, stressful...? Was there a lot of work load? Were the teachers hard on you? Was it hard to get good marks? Did you guys get any help from the animation students?




All I'm hoping right now is to get into the fundies :(

I applied around the end of September for the January 2012 semester... I wonder when they'll give me the notice that I'm in or not?? Waiting is hard enough (lol impatience).

[HocusPocus]

Bonjour Sheridan peoples.. So I was originally living in a place that wasn't being kept up to standards, to put it mildly.

I was wondering if anyone had a spot available, or knew of any friends that were renting a place to live?

Thanks <3

Hey

the room is still available...
I got your Private Message, but I cant send you one back, can you PM me your email so we can arrange for a viewing? thanks

[Nicnak044]

Hey everyone. I plan on going to that portfolio review this sunday down in Toronto. I believe its faculty of Sheridan and York that are willing to review and give advice on what you have done for their portfolios so far (Animation, illustration, etc). Is it worth going? Would it be of any help to me? And who else plans on going? (:

[zhao7931de9]

My highschool art program decided to sell itself on the fact that their graduating class all applied to art fundamentals at sheridan and ALL of them got accepted.

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[Lynn_]

Hey everyone. I plan on going to that portfolio review this sunday down in Toronto. I believe its faculty of Sheridan and York that are willing to review and give advice on what you have done for their portfolios so far (Animation, illustration, etc). Is it worth going? Would it be of any help to me? And who else plans on going? (:

Definitely go to Sheridan's. Last year I went to them, they told me I probably wouldn't get into the program and it got me to really focus on the portfolio. They really do take the time to talk to you and give you some pointers, just get there early because the line will be fantastically long.
But don't bother with York. They mainly look for 'fine arts' and they're complete jerks :/

[Nicnak044]

Definitely go to Sheridan's. Last year I went to them, they told me I probably wouldn't get into the program and it got me to really focus on the portfolio. They really do take the time to talk to you and give you some pointers, just get there early because the line will be fantastically long.
But don't bother with York. They mainly look for 'fine arts' and they're complete jerks :/

Oh awesome! I'll definitely go then. I think its great they are willing to tell you face to face whether or not you have a good chance at making it in, and like you said, it gets you focused a lot more (which I need atm xD I get so distracted! )
Ugh, it bothers me how some university/ college representatives are such asses >:C I've already met and talked with a good chunk of them, and only a few were actually nice and helpful xD

Well thank you very much for replying, I'm very excited for sunday now aha!

[BeenaMistry]

Hey everyone. I plan on going to that portfolio review this sunday down in Toronto. I believe its faculty of Sheridan and York that are willing to review and give advice on what you have done for their portfolios so far (Animation, illustration, etc). Is it worth going? Would it be of any help to me? And who else plans on going? (:

I know I'm going. But I'm nervous because I'm not sure how it all will work?
Lynn, could you give us a run down as to what happens?

[Nicnak044]

Oh awesome Beena! Maybe we'll run into each other xD (Although I doubt we will, there are going to be a ton of people there o.o ) Same here! But excited at the same time! xD I hope to talk to a few people while waiting in line. They could end up being future class mates aha ^__^

Yes, that would be great if you could Lynn, for us noobs of the college/portfolio experience x3

[Lynn_]

Lol wow I kind of feel special what is this xD

Basically the best advice I can give you is to go early. Like... a few hours early. My mom and I went around 8, 8:30 I think and we were pretty close to the entrance. One of my friends though, arrived about half an hour before and by that time the line was CRAZY long (like it was curving around this alley off of McCaul st. and looked like it was pretty close to Queen st.).
Also, I don't know if you guys are going to apply for OCAD, but if you're not then go straight to Sheridan (they'll give you a map with all the schools). I went to OCAD first, and since I was closer to the front I didn't wait too long to actually see the representative, but I went to Sheridan right afterwards and the line took hours. Not joking it was crazy @_@ They only have one or two representatives for each department and they actually talk to you. Ya the lady did kick my butt, but she was super nice and told me people I could contact and gave me pointers on what they really wanted to see from the portfolio (I couldn't really remember any of it afterwards, but it was the thought that counts).

So take a friend or a family member, grab some Timmies and expect crazy long waits the entire day. Oh! And when you're actually presenting your work, just be natural. OCAD will ask you more personal questions about connections in your art, inspirations, whatever and just answer them to the best of your ability. Walk in like you're confident but not cocky I guess. Sheridan will most likely just flip through, and you can talk about certain pieces, but for me at least they didn't ask me too many questions about what I felt. It was more like my techniques and whatever.

But good luck guys, hopefully that's what you were looking for.

[Tealouie]

Just sending out a question to current Sheridan students...when do they start accepting applications for fall 2012?

I didn't see a concrete answer on this...

Anyways, for anyone interested in the dates for Animation:

Last year the application went up around mid/end of November.
The portfolio is due the last day of February.
Results are issued end of March.

:D hope that gives someone piece of mind.

[zhao7931de9]

I think you should definitely take a trip to Sheridan and to OCAD and talk to some people. Find out what it is EXACTLY that you want to get out of school, then find out if that school can give that to you.

Good luck
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[Lycoris]

I've just got an offer from Sheridan AF for Jan 2012. I'm in, but now my parents are sort of the obstacle I'll have to deal with.

They would rather have me hand in a portfolio for Animation than go into AF, but for me, I just don't feel ready. I know my drawing skills, and I know I won't be able to make it. It would be better for me to just go into AF...

What do you guys think? Should I just decline my offer to AF and do my animation portfolio or...?

:(

[BeenaMistry]

Lycoris, you should definitely do fundies. I've heard that it helps a lot, and will probably help you build an even better portfolio for animation.

I have two questions for anyone who's doing Illustration at Sheridan right now

1. Just a general question on the type of work you do?
2. Do you guys do a lot of deep, huge symbolism type artwork?

[Lynn_]

I have two questions for anyone who's doing Illustration at Sheridan right now

1. Just a general question on the type of work you do?
2. Do you guys do a lot of deep, huge symbolism type artwork?

First year is all basics. We won't be doing any hardcore illustrative work this semester at all. Actually, we probably won't be doing many "serious" illustrations until 3rd year. First and second year really develop your basic coulour sense, media use, anatomy skills etc. and they don't expect you to put everything together until later.

[Lycoris]

Lycoris, you should definitely do fundies. I've heard that it helps a lot, and will probably help you build an even better portfolio for animation.


After talking with my parents, I received their blessings. I can go there now!!!! :mod:

Yeah however, now I'm confused. They're telling me to apply to OSAP and ontariocolleges.ca... so do I have to apply for both?


edit: It seems like it. Nvm :P


I'm kind of excited. New school, new stuff.... Seeing about 600 students all in AF will give me the jitters....

[paperquack]

After talking with my parents, I received their blessings. I can go there now!!!! :mod:

Yeah however, now I'm confused. They're telling me to apply to OSAP and ontariocolleges.ca... so do I have to apply for both?


edit: It seems like it. Nvm :P


I'm kind of excited. New school, new stuff.... Seeing about 600 students all in AF will give me the jitters....

I'm thinking of going for AF too, but am wondering if I should apply for this coming January or September :\

If I applied this January, and it'll end around December, then that means I'd be out of school for nine months, since the other programs start in September, which is not really something I (or my parents lol) am looking forward to. So can I ask what you plan on doing in the time between art fundies and the 2013 school year?

[whatami]

Lol wow I kind of feel special what is this xD

Basically the best advice I can give you is to go early. Like... a few hours early. My mom and I went around 8, 8:30 I think and we were pretty close to the entrance. One of my friends though, arrived about half an hour before and by that time the line was CRAZY long (like it was curving around this alley off of McCaul st. and looked like it was pretty close to Queen st.).
Also, I don't know if you guys are going to apply for OCAD, but if you're not then go straight to Sheridan (they'll give you a map with all the schools). I went to OCAD first, and since I was closer to the front I didn't wait too long to actually see the representative, but I went to Sheridan right afterwards and the line took hours. Not joking it was crazy @_@ They only have one or two representatives for each department and they actually talk to you. Ya the lady did kick my butt, but she was super nice and told me people I could contact and gave me pointers on what they really wanted to see from the portfolio (I couldn't really remember any of it afterwards, but it was the thought that counts).

So take a friend or a family member, grab some Timmies and expect crazy long waits the entire day. Oh! And when you're actually presenting your work, just be natural. OCAD will ask you more personal questions about connections in your art, inspirations, whatever and just answer them to the best of your ability. Walk in like you're confident but not cocky I guess. Sheridan will most likely just flip through, and you can talk about certain pieces, but for me at least they didn't ask me too many questions about what I felt. It was more like my techniques and whatever.

But good luck guys, hopefully that's what you were looking for.

Hey do you know where the portfolio review is being held and where I can find more info about it? Thanks for the info so far!

[Lynn_]

Hey do you know where the portfolio review is being held and where I can find more info about it? Thanks for the info so far!

For national portfolio day? I'm not sure where Sheridan will be this year, but the event is hosted inside of OCADU in downtown Toronto. There will be more info on their website about times, and the volunteers give you maps for where all the schools are before you enter. I think it's being held either today or tomorrow though.

[Lycoris]

I'm thinking of going for AF too, but am wondering if I should apply for this coming January or September :\

If I applied this January, and it'll end around December, then that means I'd be out of school for nine months, since the other programs start in September, which is not really something I (or my parents lol) am looking forward to. So can I ask what you plan on doing in the time between art fundies and the 2013 school year?

The January program goes from Jan 2012-Aug 2012, so that means I got a whole lot of September to February to work on my portfolio...

I'm planning to go into APW, and just learn and draw like crazy.

I'm also going to look for a job to pay off APW and my bills, but I heard it's pretty tough to get a job right now in Ontario. My friend who's from Ontario told me this. Of course, I don't really know because AF for 8 months might get in the way with a job, so... :/

I'm imagining that it might be hard to see the animation profs and students, but I want to see how they work...

I really want to get into animation more than anything, so I'll make that my goal this year for sure.


(And I also want to do a bit of traveling around the East coast after I'm done with the portfolio. I've never been to those areas before ;P)



Uh, do we still get those large duffel bag with art supplies in it for AF??



Edit:



I'm not getting something... it says that I have to pay $300 deposit to OSAP to secure my spot at Sheridan, yet I can't apply for OSAP because I live in another province... hmmmm, what should I do?

Stuff like this confuses me lol

[SinEater]

Hello ladies and gentlemen, I've just applied to the Illustration program for 2012 and was wondering about the drawing test where it says 'Paper should be white, 8.5 x 11 inches, and all drawings should be black and white.' Can you do the test on 9 x 12 and shrink it to standard when photocopying it? Also when do you get the portfolio requirements or do they just post it on the Sheridan site and do you have to pay another fee, I payed 95 dollars just to apply.

[Lycoris]

Yeah, I've been posting here a lot lately..

It's just that, I've been thinking... APW isn't cheap. So maybe there would be a better alternative solution to this than just me taking APW? Did anyone ever not take APW and still get into Animation? There are probably some, but could anyone give me tips on how to do this? Any books to help me have better line quality, draw better... etc? :D

I need to know... :(

[waltz.chu]

New to ConceptArt, hello! I have a few questions for anyone who has answers:

1. Are you allowed to submit two sketchbooks for Sheridan's animation portfolio?
One has life drawing and class work. The other has personal sillyness/characters, etc.

2. For personal works, are sculpture, printmaking, and ceramics acceptable?
I feel like they would be out of place but apparently they mark personal works on creativity and want to see that I have an interest in other fields of art too?

3. Is my impression of the application process correct?
My impression is: Apply from ontariocolleges > Get school to send transcript > Pay fees > Get response in February > Attend portfolio day sometime in March? > Wait to see how you did

I mean, I got a suggestion from one of the professors there to take fundamentals first before animation and I'm expecting to be in fundamentals anyway. But I'm still going to try for animation since the $95 covers applying to that too. Plus, having my portfolio evaluated can show me what I should focus on improving the most.

Edit: I realised that I am able to answer some questions myself!

@SinEater:

1. You are allowed to draw larger and shrink it, but they want you to include the original; just don't make the larger too large because they dislike that.

2. They send it in the mail sometime in February, I believe, once you are accepted. Figured that because February 1st is the deadline for equal consideration for applications, so it should be after that date.

3. There is a $50 portfolio assessment fee.

@Lycoris:

First: I like your name! Moving on.

Many people have gotten in without taking APW!
Take a look through the previous pages--there are many people straight out of high school or other art programs that have gotten in!

Also, the professor I spoke to during the portfolio review said that about half of the animation students come right from Sheridan's fundamentals program--I am also fairly sure that most of them did not take APW alongside that due to money and time constraints.

All I can say really is draw often for getting better. Improving is about what you put into it. Do you have any books on anatomy/life drawing/etc.? They are much more useful for improving than any other books.

My teachers are all nuts for Bridgeman's and Nicolaides' life drawing books and I've had that stuff drilled into my head for the past year and a half.

Force yourself to draw things you totally dread or hate drawing too. For me, that stuff is perspective scenes and still life but you learn a lot from getting out of your comfort zone.

[Lycoris]

New to ConceptArt, hello! I have a few questions for anyone who has answers:

1. Are you allowed to submit two sketchbooks for Sheridan's animation portfolio?
One has life drawing and class work. The other has personal sillyness/characters, etc.

2. For personal works, are sculpture, printmaking, and ceramics acceptable?
I feel like they would be out of place but apparently they mark personal works on creativity and want to see that I have an interest in other fields of art too?

3. Is my impression of the application process correct?
My impression is: Apply from ontariocolleges > Get school to send transcript > Pay fees > Get response in February > Attend portfolio day sometime in March? > Wait to see how you did

I mean, I got a suggestion from one of the professors there to take fundamentals first before animation and I'm expecting to be in fundamentals anyway. But I'm still going to try for animation since the $95 covers applying to that too. Plus, having my portfolio evaluated can show me what I should focus on improving the most.

Edit: I realised that I am able to answer some questions myself!

@SinEater:

1. You are allowed to draw larger and shrink it, but they want you to include the original; just don't make the larger too large because they dislike that.

2. They send it in the mail sometime in February, I believe, once you are accepted. Figured that because February 1st is the deadline for equal consideration for applications, so it should be after that date.

3. There is a $50 portfolio assessment fee.

Hola, welcome to CA :)

Um, I think you should just submit one sketchbook... that's what I think. Not sure too much about other things, but your personal works aren't weighed as much as some of the other mandatory works you need to hand in :/

For personal works, they don't accept 3D works, so no sculpture, installations, ceramics, etc. If your print art is just flat (not part of any installation) then that's probably fine. Usually I hear that people send in their anatomy sketches, skull drawings, still life drawings, drawings, but nothing beyond that.

I think you hand in your portfolio some time in Feb, get response back at least a month or so later...

All right, good luck on your portfolio there :D

Edit:

@Lycoris:

First: I like your name! Moving on.

Many people have gotten in without taking APW!
Take a look through the previous pages--there are many people straight out of high school or other art programs that have gotten in!

Also, the professor I spoke to during the portfolio review said that about half of the animation students come right from Sheridan's fundamentals program--I am also fairly sure that most of them did not take APW alongside that due to money and time constraints.

All I can say really is draw often for getting better. Improving is about what you put into it. Do you have any books on anatomy/life drawing/etc.? They are much more useful for improving than any other books.

My teachers are all nuts for Bridgeman's and Nicolaides' life drawing books and I've had that stuff drilled into my head for the past year and a half.

Force yourself to draw things you totally dread or hate drawing too. For me, that stuff is perspective scenes and still life but you learn a lot from getting out of your comfort zone.

Thanks for this keke ><

Your tips assured me. Yeah I was feeling kind of down, seeing how lots of people were able to pull their portfolio off so well. I guess I'll see where it goes.. I mean, as much as I would love to take APW, I don't think I can pay for it :( However, by some luck, maybe there will be some chance to do it, but that luck seems pretty slim to none.

Yeah, I've been drawing and studying anatomy/perspectives a bit. I'm still no good, and doubtful, but I love drawing, so I hope I'll be okay :)

Some AF students did take APW also and got in. They say AF wasn't too much of a help for them, but I'll have to give my best on this.

[waltz.chu]

Thanks for this keke ><

Your tips assured me. Yeah I was feeling kind of down, seeing how lots of people were able to pull their portfolio off so well. I guess I'll see where it goes.. I mean, as much as I would love to take APW, I don't think I can pay for it :( However, by some luck, maybe there will be some chance to do it, but that luck seems pretty slim to none.

Yeah, I've been drawing and studying anatomy/perspectives a bit. I'm still no good, and doubtful, but I love drawing, so I hope I'll be okay :)

Some AF students did take APW also and got in. They say AF wasn't too much of a help for them, but I'll have to give my best on this.

I think it depends on how much you try to look at the brighter side of things and apply what you have learned from all the seemingly unrelated bits of fundamentals class.

The school I currently go to has an art program that is apparently very similar to Sheridan's fundamentals program. Sure I have life drawing and painting and the helpful-towards-animation subjects, but I also had ceramics, sculpture, printmaking, photography, digital media, art history, and whatever that is under the sun of art.

In addition to all that I have my normal high school courses, can you say homework nuke? :nohope: So happy that I finished all the required courses early so that anything I drop will just be an elective.

Anyway, that all seems wholly unrelated to what I intend to study but after I joined this art program, my drawing skills? They zipped all the way up! I got this huge spike of improvement, though I still am pretty bad due to the bad anime art stunt I had for a few years, ouch.

I won't say that everything unrelated helped improve the skillset I need for animation--I'm looking at you, photography/digital media/art history--but I feel it is good to understand those things too. Having the concepts of those things drilled in helped in pulling me way out of my comfort zone and gives me more to draw inspiration from. Again, I find a lot of improvement comes from being pulled right out of that comfortable, easy to tackle corner. Even if you are being pulled into very boring, unrelated-to-what-you-want-to-do things.

... I seem to enjoy writing whole essays on everything I post. Anyway, I'm off to study Voltaire's point of view on societal matters but I will boomerang right back into this thread once I have the time.

[Lycoris]

Yo guys, right now I'm looking for a place to stay in Oakville. It's kind of stressful right now since I got a lot of things going on in my life...*sigh*

But anyway, does anyone know any good place to stay? Somewhere preferably close to school? About $200-$400 approx? Girl roommates only?


Yeah, and good luck, y'all. I really can't wait to see some of my classmates :)

edit: I have checked that website where you find out renters and stuff.... just looking for some other options if they're here.

[DearMichy]

Hi everyone, I'm Michy. I'm new to conceptart and I've taken the apw, and I'd say it's well worth it. I just applied to Sheridan's Illustration and Animation program for 2012!

I'll be making two portfolios..

Are you guys going to the open house on Saturday?

[Lycoris]

edit: Well this whole week had me pretty stressed... but that was sort of an immature post. Anyway, I should've figured out more about the info than stressing out (shame on me ><). I'll look on the bright side; surely things will turn out alright as planned :)

[Nicnak044]

Hi everyone, I'm Michy. I'm new to conceptart and I've taken the apw, and I'd say it's well worth it. I just applied to Sheridan's Illustration and Animation program for 2012!

I'll be making two portfolios..

Are you guys going to the open house on Saturday?

Hello Michy ^_^
Ooh, two portfolio's? Best of luck to ya (: I'm applying for the Animation program ^_^ Did you happen to go to the portfolio review day in Toronto a couple of weekends ago?

[DearMichy]

Hello Michy ^_^
Ooh, two portfolio's? Best of luck to ya (: I'm applying for the Animation program ^_^ Did you happen to go to the portfolio review day in Toronto a couple of weekends ago?

Hey!
Yeah I feel a bit nervous. I hope I can successfully complete the two on time.
Good luck with the Animation program! Did you start your portfolio yet? (:

And I did not go to the portfolio review day to be honest LOL. I felt unprepared.. Did you go?

[Nicnak044]

Hey!
Yeah I feel a bit nervous. I hope I can successfully complete the two on time.
Good luck with the Animation program! Did you start your portfolio yet? (:

And I did not go to the portfolio review day to be honest LOL. I felt unprepared.. Did you go?

I'm sure you can if you spend lots of time working on it, and not saving it last minute aha ;D
Thanks! I did actually! I have the character part finished, my hands, 1 room drawing, 1 pet drawing, and a few extra pieces. I plan on re-doing them more then once though, just to keep improving and what not (:
(Officially applying for schools on Thursday..so nervous x3 )

Ah, ya, I went (: Spent that whole week preparing and got there early at 9am, and waited for 3 hours until the doors opened lmao xD I spoke to one professor, Mark Mayerson, who teaches the animation class I believe, and he was very helpful telling me that I'm "In the ballpark" and all I need to really focus on is structure and anatomy. Plus I ended up meeting another guy I talk to on dA who is also applying for animation, along with his group of friends. They were all very nice ^_^ But ya, I'd say the day went very well and worth the wait ;D

[jjcaseley]

Will anyone be going to Sheridan open house this weekend? I know I'll be there :)

[DearMichy]

I'll be at the open house! I have a lot of questions to ask. I'll be wearing a bright blue tuxedo sam backpack! If you see me, say hi? (:

I'm unsure of whether to go into animation or illustration. I feel kind of worried because my friends know which program they prefer, but I don't know which is right for me.
Does anyone have experience in either of these programs or thoughts on this?

[Nicnak044]

I'd go to the open house, but I've already been to last years, went to the portfolio review day thingy 2 weekends ago, and got a personal tour from an illustration student who happens to be my dads work friends son xD

But I plan on going in April for the spring open house..if I'm accepted that is.

[BeenaMistry]

I'm gonna be going as well!

[Alex Eh]

Hey I had a few questions about Sheridan Illustration if anyone had the time.

First off is the tuition for the first two terms really $8500? That's quite a bit of money for me. I was wondering how your finding the program?

How much life drawing is available? Do most the students have the right attitude when it comes to there art? What kind of assignments are you doing in your first term?

If I were to go to school I would want to be around people that really care about there art have drive and really want to get better. Would I find that in Sheridan illustration? I went to this one school in my hometown for a year a few years back and no one gave a fuck about there art it seemed.

[smurf808]

How does the workload in the Sheridan Illustration program compare to OCAD Illustration program?

[Alex Eh]

I was also curious do you get to paint more in the illustration program?

I want to gear myself more towards entertainment design for movies and video games. As well as card art for Magic the Gathering. I want to teach myself how to depict things that don't exist as realistically as i can.

[enrigo]

I'm in 2nd year interpretive illustration and overall it has been pretty good so far. This program does teach a lot of the techniques that goes into picture making and we do quite a lot of painting and working in different media. The main part of the program covers creating narrative image that tells a story or image that suggest meanings ,like an editorial illustration.
I'd say if you want to really get good at painting you'd have to put in extra effort and self teach a bit of the technical part (perspective, anatomy etc) because it wasn't the main focus anymore after 1st year. There's extra life drawing everyday and extra life painting once a week and those are very helpful if you can go often:lifedrawing:

[Alex Eh]

Thanks enrigo someone else said pretty much the same thing to me which is good, basically what I was expecting.

[whatami]

Did anyone get mail from Sheridan yet? I remember that they send you an ID and password for their website so you can download their animation portfolio package...

I didn't get anything in the mail, registered for this year quite a while ago too. Kinda worried I screwed up somewhere with the registration....

[jjcaseley]

I haven't received anything in the mail yet either. You're not alone!

[Callykitty]

I'm in 2nd year interpretive illustration and overall it has been pretty good so far. This program does teach a lot of the techniques that goes into picture making and we do quite a lot of painting and working in different media. The main part of the program covers creating narrative image that tells a story or image that suggest meanings ,like an editorial illustration.
I'd say if you want to really get good at painting you'd have to put in extra effort and self teach a bit of the technical part (perspective, anatomy etc) because it wasn't the main focus anymore after 1st year. There's extra life drawing everyday and extra life painting once a week and those are very helpful if you can go often:lifedrawing:

Oh thank god, i found someone in second year to actually talk to.

What is the difference between interpretive illustration and technical.
No one I have asked has given me a clear difference and I don't know what one to choose for next year :s TOO SOON

[Lycoris]

Did anyone get mail from Sheridan yet? I remember that they send you an ID and password for their website so you can download their animation portfolio package...

I didn't get anything in the mail, registered for this year quite a while ago too. Kinda worried I screwed up somewhere with the registration....

I haven't received anything in the mail yet either. You're not alone!

Hey you two, it might be a good idea to give Sheridan a call...

[whatami]

@jjcaseley and lycoris

Aha, yeah, I e-mailed them last night and they said they won't be receiving our applications until early December and won't be mailing stuff out until then. :)

Just a question, they are going to be mailing from the address we used on Ontario Colleges right?

[DearMichy]

I heard that starting next year, the two classes of Illustration: Interpretive and Technical, are merging together. So you get to pick the classes you want to take or something!
I was told this at the open house on November. Pretty interesting!

[Callykitty]

I heard that starting next year, the two classes of Illustration: Interpretive and Technical, are merging together. So you get to pick the classes you want to take or something!
I was told this at the open house on November. Pretty interesting!

Hmm really? Cause when I asked the teachers they seemed to think we still had to choose o.o maybe we are the last year of students who have to choose between the two and those going into the program next year get to choose what courses they want to take.

[DearMichy]

Hmm really? Cause when I asked the teachers they seemed to think we still had to choose o.o maybe we are the last year of students who have to choose between the two and those going into the program next year get to choose what courses they want to take.

Aahh yes! Sorry maybe I was unclear.
People who are already in illustration follow the regular standards of choosing one of the two. The new illustration peoples of 2012 begin the new program of the merged classes.

Sigh~ I still don't know whether to go into animation or illustration. What's your experience of the illustration program so far..? O:

[smurf808]

How does the workload in the Sheridan Illustration program compare to OCAD Illustration program?

[Lycoris]

@jjcaseley and lycoris

Aha, yeah, I e-mailed them last night and they said they won't be receiving our applications until early December and won't be mailing stuff out until then. :)

Just a question, they are going to be mailing from the address we used on Ontario Colleges right?

Hm, probably.

How does the workload in the Sheridan Illustration program compare to OCAD Illustration program?

From what I've heard, OCAD is a bit 'artsy.' OCAD is geared more towards Fine Arts rather than Design, or so it goes :/

[Callykitty]

How does the workload in the Sheridan Illustration program compare to OCAD Illustration program?
Apparently from what I've heard, OCAD is more do-it-yourself project first year and less major orientated while my experience in Sheridan is first year is extremely technical in most of the art classes. I might be biased here though since I am in Sheridan illustration.

Aahh yes! Sorry maybe I was unclear.
People who are already in illustration follow the regular standards of choosing one of the two. The new illustration peoples of 2012 begin the new program of the merged classes.

Sigh~ I still don't know whether to go into animation or illustration. What's your experience of the illustration program so far..? O:

Illustration has been awesome for me so far, because I like working with the details in things. I think it all depends on what you want to do. Animate or illustrate. Spend hours on creating movement through many images, or through one. I used to think I wanted to go into animation, but I didn't get in, though I got into illustration with a decent score o.o which means I was kinda more meant for illustration in the first place xD

[Jipai]

Hi I want to get into Sheridan's animation program but I saw the quality of accepted portfolios and saw that I'm not good enough. I've read how much better and more helpful the Animation Portfolio Workshop is than the Art Fundamentals Program, plus its closer so I really want to go there. Does anyone know if the entire $4000 has to be payed all at once before the workshop starts? And does OSAP offer loans for this workshop? Because my family does not have enough to pay for this.

[DearMichy]

Hi I want to get into Sheridan's animation program but I saw the quality of accepted portfolios and saw that I'm not good enough. I've read how much better and more helpful the Animation Portfolio Workshop is than the Art Fundamentals Program, plus its closer so I really want to go there. Does anyone know if the entire $4000 has to be payed all at once before the workshop starts? And does OSAP offer loans for this workshop? Because my family does not have enough to pay for this.

To be honest, I'm not too sure, but I know you can contact them at their website.
they responded to me in a day or two at the most. (: so it's pretty nice.

[Alex Eh]

Salut, quelqu-un parle le Français au Sheridan? J'addrendre le Français.

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Hi, does anyone at Sheridan speak fluent French? I am on a war path to learn French, I want to surround myself with as much of the French language as I possibly can.

[Nicnak044]

Gah! December 1st! We'll be getting our portfolio requirements soon, those who applied to animation<3
I heard they changed the storyboard characters to a girl (I forget her name) and Doug the Dog. o.o RIGHT when I just finished my storyboard involving Alex -_-

[DearMichy]

Gah! December 1st! We'll be getting our portfolio requirements soon, those who applied to animation<3
I heard they changed the storyboard characters to a girl (I forget her name) and Doug the Dog. o.o RIGHT when I just finished my storyboard involving Alex -_-

I'm nervous to start on my portfolio T____T
Well it shouldn't be too bad? Just change the cat into a dog.. LOL D:

Good luck to everyone~

[waltz.chu]

Hello everyone! I just received my log-in information in the mail and yes they did change characters for the storyboard.

Carol the girl and Doug the dog. I think Carol looks kind of like Elmer Fudd's daughter if he ever had one.

Still, in my opinion these new characters look much better than the old ones! :P

Also the storyboarding was changed to:

Panel 1. Character finds the object.
Panel 2. Character shows curiosity about the object.
Panel 3. Character uses the object to do something (accomplish a goal).
Panel 4. Character reacts after goal is or isn't achieved.

The portfolio requirements are the same otherwise.

[Nicnak044]

Dammit! That changes all my storyboard ideas I had, originally :c
But I like the storyboard idea for this, its new, and sounds like it'll be fun (: Plus I love Doug's design <3 He looks like the one dog from the loony toons shows aha <3

By the way, I only have my log in information, but I don't have the requirements yet :\ Can anyone explain to me why its taking so long? I live about an hour away from Toronto, so is it just because of where I live? I just want my requirements T_T

[Nicnak044]

Lmao, nevermind! I just check my access sheridan and have received them, finally <3 I think they come in the mail too, so I'll check it tonight (:

[whatami]

Wow! You guys got your access info already? I hope they send mine soon... I didn't get any mail from them yet. Should I be worried? ):

Oh that's right, I should mention I live in Oakville... ): A good 10 minute driving distance from Sheridan.

Edit: Nevermind! I got my info! :D

[Nicnak044]

I'm really nervous about this now :S I have a ton of sudden school work to do over the holidays. I just don't want to be rushing through it the week before or something.

I'll try working on it every night, bit by bit, if I can >_<

[whatami]

Hi Nicnak, I was wondering where you found your requirements?? I tried checking my sheridan webmail and my access sheridan, but couldn't find anything. ;_;

Also, yikes... the deadline for the portfolio assessment is shorter this year. >< Good luck to everyone!

[Nicnak044]

Ya, I'm dropping mine off at the school on the 19th of February :S I'm so nervous!

And how I found the requirements was by signing in and going into mystudent center. Scroll down to 'Admissions' then click 'Applicant status'. Then click on 'View additional requirements' in the sheridan animation box. Click on that and a pdf file will pop up with all the requirements for this year :3 And if not, they just haven't sent you them yet xD

[whatami]

Thanks Nicnak! Wow, I can't believe I missed that... I guess I was just too nervous to search carefully hah. >< Each day my portfolio isn't finished I am getting nervous as heck.

Oh I'll also be going on the 19th! Maybe I'll see you there! :D

[Nicnak044]

No problem!
Ugh, I know right! So nervous >_<
Really?! That's awesome! Maybe we shall! :D Since I'm a good distance away, and its family day weekend, I'm going to be hanging out around Oakville for the day, just to see what the area is like if I plan on living there for 4 years (5, if I only get accepted into fundies x3 )

[Ylaz]

actually im interest in the program but the porfolio requirement are send to us..I though there was some directive of what we have to put into the porfolio at the website and thats all... What is the deal about storyboard they change a guy for a girl ..Can someone explain a little Thanks

[Nickels]

what are you guys applying for the art fundamentals or animation program

[Nickels]

Do you guys think I should take the art fundamentals course before I go into animation? I heard that it teaches some basic drawing lessons.

[kawaiixdesu]

Hello! Im new ^_^ I believe I've talked to nicnak on DA :P but yes I have applied to art fundies as well as animation! Im crossing my finger for myself and all of you gifted artists ^_^

p.s. I just booked my animation assessment for March 1st! ^0^

[erase]

First off, Hi everyone! Just signed up with the sole purpose of getting an answer to a question I have.
I just applied to Sheridan through ontariocolleges. Am I suppose to get some email explaining when portfolio assessments are? Help!

[kawaiixdesu]

First off, Hi everyone! Just signed up with the sole purpose of getting an answer to a question I have.
I just applied to Sheridan through ontariocolleges. Am I suppose to get some email explaining when portfolio assessments are? Help!

hello :D
To answer your question, unfortunately nothing will happen until they send you your information in the mail D:, everything is on your email they give you from assessment dates to portfolio requirements but you can certainly continue working on your portfolio ^_^

[erase]

hello :D
To answer your question, unfortunately nothing will happen until they send you your information in the mail D:, everything is on your email they give you from assessment dates to portfolio requirements but you can certainly continue working on your portfolio ^_^

How long does it take for the letter to arrive by mail? Haha I'm over the top anxious these days. I actually decided that I want to go into animation just this weekend! :D

[Nicnak044]

Hello! Im new ^_^ I believe I've talked to nicnak on DA :P but yes I have applied to art fundies as well as animation! Im crossing my finger for myself and all of you gifted artists ^_^

p.s. I just booked my animation assessment for March 1st! ^0^


Ooh we have? :o Whats your name on dA? :D

[kawaiixdesu]

Nicnak: I'm Yukimeno ^_^ remember me?! :D
erase: I don't know for sure but itll come soon don't worry I just got mine today and I applied on December 12th!

[visoutre]

i miss Alex the Alley Cat. RIP

[erase]

So where's everyone on their portfolio? I feel sorta behind...

[whatami]

So where's everyone on their portfolio? I feel sorta behind...

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I've been working at it for weeks though, it's just never up to my standards, so I keep scrapping and starting over again... total nightmare. I don't think I have anything really done at all...

And my life drawings, oi... I think I've gotten worse with each session.

Ramble: I can't sleep right with this anxiety. I think I might be worrying way too much, but at this point, I think I should be worried... I've told myself I'd finish in October, but it's already nearing the end of December! The thought of being rejected the third time just absolutely terrifies me. The last two times still make me want to hurt myself, ugh... Will all be worth it when I get in though, at least that's what I keep telling myself!

[erase]

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I've been working at it for weeks though, it's just never up to my standards, so I keep scrapping and starting over again... total nightmare. I don't think I have anything really done at all...

And my life drawings, oi... I think I've gotten worse with each session.

Ramble: I can't sleep right with this anxiety. I think I might be worrying way too much, but at this point, I think I should be worried... I've told myself I'd finish in October, but it's already nearing the end of December! The thought of being rejected the third time just absolutely terrifies me. The last two times still make me want to hurt myself, ugh... Will all be worth it when I get in though, at least that's what I keep telling myself!


Are you me? lol. Except this is my first time applying. It also doesn't help that I started my portfolio last week, but I guess that's my fault. Just realized how bad I want to get into animation. Hope its not too late. :s

[D4ni3l]

wow, i haven't even begun my portfolio, just done one life drawing session. i feel so behind now...

[kawaiixdesu]

Are you me? lol. Except this is my first time applying. It also doesn't help that I started my portfolio last week, but I guess that's my fault. Just realized how bad I want to get into animation. Hope its not too late. :s

Oh gosh I know the feeling of your work not being up to standards! its like I draw my friends cat, I look at it...SCRAP, objects look at it..SCRAP and don't even make me get started on my room line drawings D:

[erase]

Oh gosh I know the feeling of your work not being up to standards! its like I draw my friends cat, I look at it...SCRAP, objects look at it..SCRAP and don't even make me get started on my room line drawings D:

Haven't even started that. I'm saving it for last because I DESPISE perspective. It takes soo long! Lets all share our frustrations. :D
Oh and anyone know when the deadline for the portfolio is? Still haven't received that letter so i have nothing to go by.

[D4ni3l]

Haven't even started that. I'm saving it for last because I DESPISE perspective. It takes soo long! Lets all share our frustrations. :D
Oh and anyone know when the deadline for the portfolio is? Still haven't received that letter so i have nothing to go by.

after they send you the letter, log in and book when you go in, itll probably be in the last week of feburary

[kawaiixdesu]

after they send you the letter, log in and book when you go in, itll probably be in the last week of feburary

hey you mentioned applying twice already right? for us first time applicants, could you explain to use what it was like and maybe show us some of your work and score sheets? Im just curious, your portfolio is probably so good but sheridan is so specific on what they want but never really keep that mindset o_o

[D4ni3l]

hey you mentioned applying twice already right? for us first time applicants, could you explain to use what it was like and maybe show us some of your work and score sheets? Im just curious, your portfolio is probably so good but sheridan is so specific on what they want but never really keep that mindset o_o

no, sorry im straight out of highschool. first time applying lol. I think it was a different person

[whatami]

Awwe, makes me feel a lot better how other people feel the same way... this mind torture will help us get ahead in the end!

hey you mentioned applying twice already right? for us first time applicants, could you explain to use what it was like and maybe show us some of your work and score sheets? Im just curious, your portfolio is probably so good but sheridan is so specific on what they want but never really keep that mindset o_o

Yeah, I think you meant me! :)

The process is pretty straightforward, you pay your portfolio fee (50 bucks in cash, I believe. Both times, they refused my cheque) then you go line up where the other applicants are. Go nice and early, there will be at least 100 other people there already, and the line up will be very very long. There is no interview, so don't be concerned with that. After you hand your portfolio in, they will tell you the 'orientation' time. You watch a few animation shorts in it, they explain what they do in animation, answer your concerns and questions, you know the likes! You can skip it I guess, at least I will this year, since I get the jist of what's going on. You'll get your portfolio back I think a few hours later, then you can go home. Any marking on your applicant sheet (the one you must tape on the cover of your portfolio case) doesn't mean anything, other than it's been looked at. Since there was very little interaction, the only nervousness was about whether they liked it or not, but you won't even know that until late March or early April. Not sure this year, it is probably sooner because of the earlier deadline.

Sadly I lost my first portfolio, I forgot to pick it up after sending it over to them for an appeal on my score. I got a 2.73 overall first year. I can't remember the appealed score, but it wasn't raised very high. I think it went up to a 2.75 at most. Fair I guess, I didn't really know many of their terms or what their boundaries were, and my knowledge was admittedly limited. ;_; I went to fundies after that.

Second time, I got a 2.70 overall, which just shot me right in the heart. :( Seriously, what were the chances of getting a worse score than you did last year? Especially after going to their fundies program? :( Anyway, I want to say that I did really well during my stay in fundies, but I think the more I say that, the more I'm starting to think acing fundies was probably 'easy' and I wasn't aiming high enough. :/ My twin sis got into animation however, even though her grades were worse haha. (We both handed in our school assignments for our portfolios, by the way, which is why I'm mentioning our grades.) Oh well, at least I get to know the animation assignments ahead of time!

You can note me for specific pieces you want to see, I have all of them but it is kind of tedious to upload 15-20 large pictures haha. Also, yes I appealed again, but it was only raised to 2.75. :c

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Hey guys another question.. for the room line drawing, what does it mean by 'other persons' point of view'? Like the person your drawing and what they're seeing?

[D4ni3l]

Hey guys another question.. for the room line drawing, what does it mean by 'other persons' point of view'? Like the person your drawing and what they're seeing?

What ever person you drew in the first room drawing, his view of the room. If you want good examples they have a bunch if you search up sheridan animation portfolios

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What ever person you drew in the first room drawing, his view of the room. If you want good examples they have a bunch if you search up sheridan animation portfolios

Oh and did you get an email when you applied to Sheridan?

[D4ni3l]

Oh and did you get an email when you applied to Sheridan?

no email, i just got a letter like 2 weeks after i applied. That had all the information to get onto the website

[erase]

no email, i just got a letter like 2 weeks after i applied. That had all the information to get onto the website

Whoa that's a long time to wait. Did the letter say when the last day for portfolio assessment is?

[D4ni3l]

Whoa that's a long time to wait. Did the letter say when the last day for portfolio assessment is?

The final day it let me pick was March 1st, i dont know if you can still pick that date though.

[erase]

The final day it let me pick was March 1st, i dont know if you can still pick that date though.

So its like first come first serve for the choices?

[D4ni3l]

So its like first come first serve for the choices?

thats what it seems like, when did you apply?

[erase]

thats what it seems like, when did you apply?

I applied to the program on December 19. No mail yet :(

[D4ni3l]

I applied to the program on December 19. No mail yet :(

Ahhh, it shouldn't be too long. I also got frustrated when i didn't get it quickly.

[Vertical]

Hahaha oh crap.

Hi, my name is Sam, and due to a lapse in brain usage up until a few minutes ago I was under the impression the "S" in SCAD stood for Sheridan, I just now realized they're separate colleges.
I've been impressed with Sheridan's animation and SCAD looks pretty good too, so I guess I'm applying to both, and LCAD too. (Calarts is my first choice btw, already applied) Needless to day I'm going to be getting started on my Sheridan portfolio lickety split, but I have a couple of questions for you guys!

1: I don't live in Canada. That's not really a question is it? Uh anyway, is that going to be a problem in any way?

2: I'm reading on the website the deadline for application is February 1, is that accurate? That leaves me just around a month to get everything in, correct?

Alrighty, I guess I'll be applying and doing a whole bunch of work tomorrow. Thanks for reading, appreciate any answers I get, and Merry Christmas!

[D4ni3l]

Hahaha oh crap.

Hi, my name is Sam, and due to a lapse in brain usage up until a few minutes ago I was under the impression the "S" in SCAD stood for Sheridan, I just now realized they're separate colleges.
I've been impressed with Sheridan's animation and SCAD looks pretty good too, so I guess I'm applying to both, and LCAD too. (Calarts is my first choice btw, already applied) Needless to day I'm going to be getting started on my Sheridan portfolio lickety split, but I have a couple of questions for you guys!

1: I don't live in Canada. That's not really a question is it? Uh anyway, is that going to be a problem in any way?

2: I'm reading on the website the deadline for application is February 1, is that accurate? That leaves me just around a month to get everything in, correct?

Alrighty, I guess I'll be applying and doing a whole bunch of work tomorrow. Thanks for reading, appreciate any answers I get, and Merry Christmas!

well, i dont about international applications. But i know that you sign up and pick a time for handing in the portfolio. I set mine up march 1st, thats for Sheridan animation anyway. You could always try to call the admission office and ask them.

[Nicnak044]

Lol whoops, totally forgot to stay caught up with this thread xD
Ya, I'm in the same boat. I've had most of my portfolio done because I went to the review day in October down in Toronto, but since then I haven't really done much :S I went to a life drawing session December 8th at OCAD. Got a few good sketches that I plan on submitting (Although I may sign up for a January session xD ) And I've practiced drawing Doug the dog and my original character for the rotation.

So I have some stuff done, but they need re-doing. Kinda getting nervous now, considering I have exams and assignments to focus on now, but theres my portfolio that needs to be done too. Plus my social life has picked up recently so I really need to balance out everything lol xD

[Nicnak044]

Oh ya, and the date I signed up for my portfolio is February 19th :3 Anyone else going that day? I definitely plan on talking with some of the other applicants, make some friends ahaha (as shy as I am in person, I'll try and spark some convos lol)

Best of luck to you all! <3 And merry (late) christmas ;D

[whatami]

Hey guys, I heard from my sister that there's a video game design class that's supposed to be out this year at Sheridan. Anyone know if there's a portfolio requirement for that one? Also, where can I get more info about it?

She and her teachers warned that no one crash tested it yet, but you know, in case I don't get in animation, that could be something interesting?

[thrillpop]

I'm pretty low on skill and foundation... I want to do two years of art at community college then try sheridan's foundation program and apply for animation. For those of you who have taken it do you feel it's worth it?

I've always wanted to get into animation/do art in general but it feels so hard to reach.. :/ sheridan's portfolio seems really hard to be a standard for. Any tips?

[Sacari]

I'm pretty low on skill and foundation... I want to do two years of art at community college then try sheridan's foundation program and apply for animation. For those of you who have taken it do you feel it's worth it?

I've always wanted to get into animation/do art in general but it feels so hard to reach.. :/ sheridan's portfolio seems really hard to be a standard for. Any tips?

There's really no requirements for Art Fundies, so I don't know how much doing 2 years of college before taking Fundies would actually help you, since you'd probably be able to get in right away.

[ChaosTheory]

Guys, are there any scholarships for international students which cover at least 40-50% of tuition fee?(Illustration program)

[kawaiixdesu]

Im dying to see everyone's work in progress! :) but I'm curious...does anyone on here live in brampton and if so do you got to the life drawing classes near shoppers world?

[Lycoris]

I'm pretty low on skill and foundation... I want to do two years of art at community college then try sheridan's foundation program and apply for animation. For those of you who have taken it do you feel it's worth it?

I've always wanted to get into animation/do art in general but it feels so hard to reach.. :/ sheridan's portfolio seems really hard to be a standard for. Any tips?


You'd be wasting your time and money doing two years of art in community college since Sheridan's fundies program is basically geared for beginners. It's probably better to do the fundies than two years spent in another college.

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Just came back to say I got my registration mail! :)
Signed up for February 27. Anyone going then?

[kawaiixdesu]

Just came back to say I got my registration mail! :)
Signed up for February 27. Anyone going then?

Not me! :P Im going March 1~ hows your portfolio progress going?

[erase]

Need to get started on life drawings and the storyboard. Other than that I'm pretty much done! Well nothing really FEELS done but still :D

[kawaiixdesu]

Need to get started on life drawings and the storyboard. Other than that I'm pretty much done! Well nothing really FEELS done but still :D

oooh your in the same place as me except I havent done my room drawings, object drawings and storyboard the storyboard has got me stumped and confused :s

[Miss Teatime]

Hey guys, I lurked the forums last year when I was applying and I'm in the 2nd yr VCA program now (transferred from Fundies).

Last year I got marked heavily on my Life Drawing (within reason), but the only thing I never understood is how they want the animal drawings to look, because I still think mine weren't all that bad last year (They had quite the clean, and finalized look to them, with structure and different line quality). I've seen many portfolios, but they vary so much in that section. :/ Do you figure they just want gesture-like drawings for the animals?

[Lycoris]

Hey guys, I lurked the forums last year when I was applying and I'm in the 2nd yr VCA program now (transferred from Fundies).

Last year I got marked heavily on my Life Drawing (within reason), but the only thing I never understood is how they want the animal drawings to look, because I still think mine weren't all that bad last year (They had quite the clean, and finalized look to them, with structure and different line quality). I've seen many portfolios, but they vary so much in that section. :/ Do you figure they just want gesture-like drawings for the animals?

Hello, if you could, maybe you could post your animal drawings here?

For all I know, this was one of the accepted animal drawing:

http://portreview.blogspot.com/

[ChaosTheory]

Guys, are there any scholarships for international students which cover at least 40-50% of tuition fee?(Illustration program)

Guys, i'll appreciate if u answer to this question

[Wuffle]

Hey guys. I'm starting Art Fundies in January but from what I've read, I might take APW in May as well. Really want to get into Animation for 2013. x:

Oh, also: they said I was one of the first on the list for winter residence. Around when should we expect confirmations?

[tmoby]

They have an entrance one for everybody that can give you between 500 and 4000 depending how much you need it.

And go check their website's scholarship page.

Definitely call them as well to get more information about international scholarships if it's the only way you can go to Sheridan. It's worth it!

[ChaosTheory]

tmoby, thnx!) I've checked their scholarship page, and haven't found that much(only entrance scholarship). But i wrote them, so i'm gonna wait for response
Uhm... What about housing expenses? Is there shared type of accommodation? Because 5k is kinda a lot of money(for me at least ;D)

[GoddamnitDonna]

Im dying to see everyone's work in progress! :) but I'm curious...does anyone on here live in brampton and if so do you got to the life drawing classes near shoppers world?

Homigawd I live nearby.. and have been there! :D

[Lycoris]

Orientation... crazy day today. Got my duffel bag and some papers... I carried that heavy thing around the whole entire school, and the school's pretty big!!

[Lycoris]

Guys, i'll appreciate if u answer to this question

Probably best for you to ask Sheridan. You can contact them through their e-mail. They answer pretty fast. Sheridan even has International Center for International students, I think.

edit: sorry for the double post.

[ChaosTheory]

Lycoris , I wrote them a few days ago. Now I'm waiting for their response

[kawaiixdesu]

Homigawd I live nearby.. and have been there! :D

yaay! Im not alone! :D Ill be going on tuesday :3 how about you?

[kawaiixdesu]

Lycoris , I wrote them a few days ago. Now I'm waiting for their response

If you have a calling card handy you should definitely call them theyre more helpful on the phone than in an email and you can ask them much more! Good luck!

[Wuffle]

Orientation... crazy day today. Got my duffel bag and some papers... I carried that heavy thing around the whole entire school, and the school's pretty big!!

You should have just grabbed it as you were about to leave the school, much easier. :> Are we meant to bring all of the supplies on the 9th or only what's specific to the classes on our time table?

[GoddamnitDonna]

yaay! Im not alone! :D Ill be going on tuesday :3 how about you?

Uh not this tuesday since I'll be going away for a week but the next week for sure!!!!!!!! it'd be cool to sit with you :]

[Lycoris]

You should have just grabbed it as you were about to leave the school, much easier. :> Are we meant to bring all of the supplies on the 9th or only what's specific to the classes on our time table?

I don't know what class you have on the 9th, but it might be a good idea to check up with your instructor. My instructor had already sent out e-mails on what he wants us to bring.

And yeah, I should've done that. It occurred to me as soon as I received the bag... I was in such a rush :o

[Nicnak044]

Hey guys! So I ran into a bit of confusion. On December 10th I signed up for my portfolio assessment date, which was set for February 19th. I decided to check my sheridan account yesterday to make sure everything was still good, but I noticed the date is now set for the 29th of February :o And they never emailed me to make sure I can confirm that date, or warned me about the change :S So I'm just leaving it as it is for now, but I just was wondering if anyone else ran into the same problem :\

[D4ni3l]

Hey guys! So I ran into a bit of confusion. On December 10th I signed up for my portfolio assessment date, which was set for February 19th. I decided to check my sheridan account yesterday to make sure everything was still good, but I noticed the date is now set for the 29th of February :o And they never emailed me to make sure I can confirm that date, or warned me about the change :S So I'm just leaving it as it is for now, but I just was wondering if anyone else ran into the same problem :\

They could have just been correcting a mistake, and Feburary 19th was always supposed to be 29th.

[Jipai]

Are you guys doing your character rotations on one page or 5 pages? And for the gesture drawings I should get my friend to pose for me right?

[D4ni3l]

Are you guys doing your character rotations on one page or 5 pages? And for the gesture drawings I should get my friend to pose for me right?

they prefer nude, so i say go to a life drawing workshop. You can draw people in bathing suits, but they dont recommend it. I have no idea about the character rotations, probably 5 pages and combine them after.

[kawaiixdesu]

Are you guys doing your character rotations on one page or 5 pages? And for the gesture drawings I should get my friend to pose for me right?

hmmmm o_o from what I've read they want them all on separate pages but if you can you should access the requirements! :)

[Jipai]

Okay thanks guys! Guess I'll have to go to a life drawing session. ><

[OfficialLamp]

Hey people, I was planning on applying to Sheridan, but I'm super confused at the application process going on. Does Sheridan do all of this stuff really early in the year, because colleges here usually do so in spring. I see that people already have a portfolio review date set up, does this mean it's already too late to start the process? Not that I'm itching to pay the registration fees.

Another thing is that I live in BC, so there's no chance of me going in person with my portfolio. I understand that they do accept mail-ins, but is there something different I have to do in the application process, or just make sure they receive my portfolio by the review date I sign up for?

Oh dear, I so incredibly unorganized for this.

[whatami]

Hey guys! So I ran into a bit of confusion. On December 10th I signed up for my portfolio assessment date, which was set for February 19th. I decided to check my sheridan account yesterday to make sure everything was still good, but I noticed the date is now set for the 29th of February :o And they never emailed me to make sure I can confirm that date, or warned me about the change :S So I'm just leaving it as it is for now, but I just was wondering if anyone else ran into the same problem :\

Hi Nicnak, this happened to me as well. I've changed my booking date to the 27th since it seems they've either extended the date or it was some kind of typo. (Which I know they are very prone to, knowing their past instances of misspelling their own website address. :P) I've also e-mailed them just in case. They really ought to notify us of these things... if it weren't for you, I would have missed that completely.

EDIT: Speaking of unorganized, I just got an automated message saying they're not answering e-mails or phone calls until the 2nd of January. It's the 8th... you'd think they'd turn off that auto message by now. xD

[D4ni3l]

Hey people, I was planning on applying to Sheridan, but I'm super confused at the application process going on. Does Sheridan do all of this stuff really early in the year, because colleges here usually do so in spring. I see that people already have a portfolio review date set up, does this mean it's already too late to start the process? Not that I'm itching to pay the registration fees.

Another thing is that I live in BC, so there's no chance of me going in person with my portfolio. I understand that they do accept mail-ins, but is there something different I have to do in the application process, or just make sure they receive my portfolio by the review date I sign up for?

Oh dear, I so incredibly unorganized for this.

The deadline for applications is feburary 1st, im pretty sure since it is a college. So you're not too late, but i suggest you hurry and start on the portfolio, they send a letter about 1-2 weeks after you apply.

[Nicnak044]

Hi Nicnak, this happened to me as well. I've changed my booking date to the 27th since it seems they've either extended the date or it was some kind of typo. (Which I know they are very prone to, knowing their past instances of misspelling their own website address. :P) I've also e-mailed them just in case. They really ought to notify us of these things... if it weren't for you, I would have missed that completely.

EDIT: Speaking of unorganized, I just got an automated message saying they're not answering e-mails or phone calls until the 2nd of January. It's the 8th... you'd think they'd turn off that auto message by now. xD

Ya, I think I'm just going to keep mine on the 29th. I emailed them too, and they told me they forwarded my message to Paulette Geffros who works in the Bachelor of Animation Coordinator's office. I believe she is the one responsible for applications in that program and contacting us with reminders and what not. I still haven't gotten a reply from her yet though..and I sent that email last Thursday :\
Lmao, yeah, they need to get a little organized here; I don't want to run into any major problems :S

[okayla]

Oh my goodness, I thought the portfolios were ideally due on the 1st and was panicking over shipping times (I live overseas) -- this thread was quite the relief to find.

[erase]

Anyone know where to take life drawing classes near the Toronto area?

[D4ni3l]

Anyone know where to take life drawing classes near the Toronto area?

I go to a life drawing session every saturday by Brock, and Dundas St West. Artist studio 25 i think. You could also try taking some at OCAD

[Nickels]

Frig i waited so long :o I am applying right now on ontario colleges.ca. I have to start getting some life drawing sessions in and preparing everything. If i sign up today my deadline would be the Feb 29 like everyone else right?

[whatami]

Frig i waited so long :o I am applying right now on ontario colleges.ca. I have to start getting some life drawing sessions in and preparing everything. If i sign up today my deadline would be the Feb 29 like everyone else right?

The portfolio assessment days are February 27th, 28th, 29th and March 1st. :) You can choose between any of those once you get your Access Sheridan info.

Good luck with your portfolio!!

[Nickels]

does anybody know if there are any drop in life drawing sessions in mississauga?

[OfficialLamp]

I'm really confused about how mail-in portfolios work. I know that I send in 8.5"x11" photocopies, but will I need to show them the originals at any point? It would be a load off my mind if I knew I didn't have to keep them in pristine condition for several months.

Also, how rough do you guys think the character action poses should be? They stress the "rough and loose" part, but the accepted portfolios I've seen are quite clean and tidy.

*edit* Oh dear, now I'm freaking out. I just got the funds required to apply ($95 are you kidding me?) and did so. But wait, now I have to send in my highschool transcript? And I totally forgot about that letter, will it even get to my house by Feburary 1st? I'm I already safe from the deadline because I paid the fee? I will not be pleased if I just wasted $95 which would be better spent on rent.

[D4ni3l]

I'm really confused about how mail-in portfolios work. I know that I send in 8.5"x11" photocopies, but will I need to show them the originals at any point? It would be a load off my mind if I knew I didn't have to keep them in pristine condition for several months.

Also, how rough do you guys think the character action poses should be? They stress the "rough and loose" part, but the accepted portfolios I've seen are quite clean and tidy.

*edit* Oh dear, now I'm freaking out. I just got the funds required to apply ($95 are you kidding me?) and did so. But wait, now I have to send in my highschool transcript? And I totally forgot about that letter, will it even get to my house by Feburary 1st? I'm I already safe from the deadline because I paid the fee? I will not be pleased if I just wasted $95 which would be better spent on rent.

dont worry about the deadline if you applied and you paid. the letter has nothing to do with it. About the poses, from what i've seen they want it fairly tidy, but i have no way of knowing for sure other than past portfolios, i would suggest you try to make it fairly neat.

[Sacari]

I'm really confused about how mail-in portfolios work. I know that I send in 8.5"x11" photocopies, but will I need to show them the originals at any point? It would be a load off my mind if I knew I didn't have to keep them in pristine condition for several months.


I mailed in my portfolio and never had to show originals. :)

[GoddamnitDonna]

Lololol.... oh good god I'm stressing out... I've barely accomplished anything and everytime I start I just wanna rage quit immediatly lol

[kawaiixdesu]

Lololol.... oh good god I'm stressing out... I've barely accomplished anything and everytime I start I just wanna rage quit immediatly lol

lol dont ! am I seeing you tomorrow? ahahahah

[GoddamnitDonna]

Got called into work bleh. Is that professor there still? Peter Emsly?

[mt_02]

Hey guys, I am applying to the Sheridan Illustration program for Fall 2012. However, I have a question about the portfolio. I know it says you can submit up to 25 personal portfolio pieces, but is there a minimum? How many pieces are usually submitted? I was hoping around 10 personal pieces along with the drawing test would suffice? Thanks for the help!

[Sacari]

Hey guys, I am applying to the Sheridan Illustration program for Fall 2012. However, I have a question about the portfolio. I know it says you can submit up to 25 personal portfolio pieces, but is there a minimum? How many pieces are usually submitted? I was hoping around 10 personal pieces along with the drawing test would suffice? Thanks for the help!


I had about 12-15 pieces in my personal part of the portfolio, plus my sketchbook and drawing test when I applied.

[okayla]

FYI, for curious international potential applicants - it says portfolios must be postmarked as of 'Feb 24th'.

[OfficialLamp]

Just out of curiosity (seeing as there's less than a month left) how far are you guys into your portfolios? Has anyone finished already?

I have my objects, room, and animal drawings left to do. The second object drawing is proving difficult to find a good concept for, and the room drawings are overwhelming, so I've stupidly saved them for left.

[Nickels]

Just out of curiosity (seeing as there's less than a month left) how far are you guys into your portfolios? Has anyone finished already?

I have my objects, room, and animal drawings left to do. The second object drawing is proving difficult to find a good concept for, and the room drawings are overwhelming, so I've stupidly saved them for left.

Im taking a year off and applying next year, I want to get some more money and save up as well as build up my life drawing skills. Also another reason is that there is the guy in my life drawing class who is about 1-2 years older then me and his drawings are sick.

[Vertical]

I still have to do my storyboards and before/after still life, I think that's all.

[erase]

Still life, storyboard, and character face expressions for me. I might also redo my object drawings. Though there is always room for improvement....

[kawaiixdesu]

I have to do my room drawings, households and storyboard still xD

[OfficialLamp]

Im taking a year off and applying next year, I want to get some more money and save up as well as build up my life drawing skills. Also another reason is that there is the guy in my life drawing class who is about 1-2 years older then me and his drawings are sick.
Sorry to hear that, never let what other artist do keep you from trying. Good to hear that you're taking life drawing, though! You're doing exactly what I did, although saving up money didn't exactly happen :teeth:
There's no need to go to university straight out of the highschool doors.

In other news, I got my application letters today (finally). I think I have everything set up properly, I signed up for mail-in portfolio and I just need to send my transcript in. Oh man, I have less than 23 days to get this done!

Bring on the pressure!

[okayla]

Do you have to send your transcripts in with your portfolio or is it an after-you're-in sort of thing?

[OfficialLamp]

Do you have to send your transcripts in with your portfolio or is it an after-you're-in sort of thing?
I've already sent mine in. I was a bit annoyed with the way they handled transcripts because it's only ever mentioned in unimportant parts of documents. They do say, however, to send it in as soon as possible. So I recommend doing so.

[dreamycrowdy]

is it not normal to 'just about to get started' ?

[erase]

^ lol I would say it's normal. I don't now about you, but I work better under pressure.

[erase]

guys I have another question...was there suppose to be a rubric mailed to us? For evaluation or something.

[Wuffle]

is it not normal to 'just about to get started' ?

You're not alone dood.

[roseluff]

Does anyone know when the Illustration portfolio submission is? :)

[waltz.chu]

guys I have another question...was there suppose to be a rubric mailed to us? For evaluation or something.

You should be able to find it somewhere in the AccessSheridan portal under the programs you applied to in "View additional admission requirements" for BAA Animation.


Does anyone know when the Illustration portfolio submission is? :)

Check your AccessSheridan account and sign up for a day. It's coming up soon and from what I saw last week for Animation, slots are filling up quickly and are limited.

[dreamycrowdy]

yay, Thought I was late as hell.

[OfficialLamp]

yay, Thought I was late as hell.
You are. You have less than a month to get this done. That's not a lot of time, especially if you've never done any nude model drawing before.

Work hard.

[OfficialLamp]

Hmm. In the portfolio requirements for animation it says the room drawings need to be "freehand". So no rulers at all? I only ask because the object drawings specifically say no rulers but the rooms do not.

I might cry.

[Zeel]

Hmm. In the portfolio requirements for animation it says the room drawings need to be "freehand". So no rulers at all? I only ask because the object drawings specifically say no rulers but the rooms do not.

I might cry.


Yeah I saw that too, then checked out examples. All of them looked like they used rulers. So I used one too, for small lines. Not all of them.

I'll be dropping in my portfolio feb 23rd, anyone else on this board gonna be there?

[waltz.chu]

I have a question about the room drawing for animation.

The room drawing from the person's point of view, does it require that you have something crazy/imaginative happening from their point of view?

From what I see a lot of people seem to be doing this yet it is not specified on the list of requirements for that section.

Also about the ruler thing, you are allowed to use rulers for the room drawing. I asked some questions to one of the instructors during portfolio day a while ago.

She seemed somewhat annoyed when responding because she felt it was very straightforward and simple but it says 'freehand room drawing' and the section before it wanted no ruler! That does not seem very straightforward at all but anyway, she said 'if it doesn't say that you can't then you can use a ruler,' or something along the lines of that.

So there you go. Rulers are fine for the room drawing.

[Alex Chow]

The room drawing from the person's point of view, does it require that you have something crazy/imaginative happening from their point of view?


Creativity is only one criteria out of the a myriad of technical criteria. If you can do the imaginative stuff without sacrificing the rest of the evaluation then it's worth going for it. I think it's a lot more important to show you can draw the same space in different angles so be very wary about twisting it too much!

EDIT: As for me, I just did two drawings of the same space with no imaginative work in the POV and got a 3 in Creativity.

[Miss Teatime]

Hmm. In the portfolio requirements for animation it says the room drawings need to be "freehand". So no rulers at all? I only ask because the object drawings specifically say no rulers but the rooms do not.

I might cry.

The term freehand does imply no rulers. That's what I did with mine and people can't tell at first. Even if you did it shouldn't be a big deal, they don't really stress it. :)

The room drawing from the person's point of view, does it require that you have something crazy/imaginative happening from their point of view?

I never actually noticed that before lol.
I know in my art fundies class we were required to do that for the person's point of view, and I guess everyone has always stuck with it.
But room drawing doesn't get marked on creativity, so it shouldn't matter.

[Alex Chow]

But room drawing doesn't get marked on creativity, so it shouldn't matter.

Interesting, I swore it was marked 3 years ago. Did they change it recently? EDIT: Not that it matters much since the other aspects still weigh a ton more than that for the room drawings.

[whatami]

Yeah I saw that too, then checked out examples. All of them looked like they used rulers. So I used one too, for small lines. Not all of them.

I'll be dropping in my portfolio feb 23rd, anyone else on this board gonna be there?

Isn't the 23rd the mail-in deadline those who live outside of Ontario? Actually, don't you mean the 24th? Just making sure... that would suck if you showed up when you're not supposed to.

Got a question for hand drawings: I've shown my hand drawing to a life drawing professor who's currently teaching in the animation program, and he said my hands were TOO structural? He suggested I get rid of the blue lines altogether and just draw it 'naturally'?

I don't mean to undermine his credibility but everyone's hands in their portfolio (with a few exceptions) had their structure in blue, and their hands drawn over it? It's like it was tradition to do that... so I kinda feel like I'm taking a risk here. Last year, my hands got a 2 in structure (it had the blue lines and stuff though), and my (fundies) profs told me that it didn't have ENOUGH visible structure in it which was why they deducted points. Then again, the fundies profs I had weren't exactly the most reliable people... so what should I do? I don't think the life drawing prof I've mentioned is marking portfolios this year, so the opinions could be different?

[erase]

Isn't the 23rd the mail-in deadline those who live outside of Ontario? Actually, don't you mean the 24th? Just making sure... that would suck if you showed up when you're not supposed to.

Got a question for hand drawings: I've shown my hand drawing to a life drawing professor who's currently teaching in the animation program, and he said my hands were TOO structural? He suggested I get rid of the blue lines altogether and just draw it 'naturally'?

I don't mean to undermine his credibility but everyone's hands in their portfolio (with a few exceptions) had their structure in blue, and their hands drawn over it? It's like it was tradition to do that... so I kinda feel like I'm taking a risk here. Last year, my hands got a 2 in structure (it had the blue lines and stuff though), and my (fundies) profs told me that it didn't have ENOUGH visible structure in it which was why they deducted points. Then again, the fundies profs I had weren't exactly the most reliable people... so what should I do? I don't think the life drawing prof I've mentioned is marking portfolios this year, so the opinions could be different?

I've talked to a Sheridan graduate about hand drawings and he suggested I draw the hands 'naturally' and add in the structure later. I think he meant that it's suppose to be a draw-and-think process...You draw the hands and then add in all the structures based on the natural shape. Hope that helps!

[kawaiixdesu]

Isn't the 23rd the mail-in deadline those who live outside of Ontario? Actually, don't you mean the 24th? Just making sure... that would suck if you showed up when you're not supposed to.

Got a question for hand drawings: I've shown my hand drawing to a life drawing professor who's currently teaching in the animation program, and he said my hands were TOO structural? He suggested I get rid of the blue lines altogether and just draw it 'naturally'?

I don't mean to undermine his credibility but everyone's hands in their portfolio (with a few exceptions) had their structure in blue, and their hands drawn over it? It's like it was tradition to do that... so I kinda feel like I'm taking a risk here. Last year, my hands got a 2 in structure (it had the blue lines and stuff though), and my (fundies) profs told me that it didn't have ENOUGH visible structure in it which was why they deducted points. Then again, the fundies profs I had weren't exactly the most reliable people... so what should I do? I don't think the life drawing prof I've mentioned is marking portfolios this year, so the opinions could be different?

well in my opinion I think the best choice would be to draw the structure first and just enough so you can actually see a hand forming, then to the best of your ability you should draw the hand with very simple detailing I think they want to see if you understand the shapes and process of drawing a hand not only how well you can draw a hand if that makes sense! good luck :) dont stress!

[Miss Teatime]

Interesting, I swore it was marked 3 years ago. Did they change it recently? EDIT: Not that it matters much since the other aspects still weigh a ton more than that for the room drawings.

Yeah this year it changed.

I know it sounds weird.. but regarding the hands question, I do a rough of my hands, then I go over it with the blue lines then pencil. Just so that it comes out as a really clean and as accurate a drawing as possible. Everyone has a different method of doing it though ~

[Crrristian]

Oh gosh, for some reason I assumed if I wasn't accepted into the illustration program I would still be offered a position in the fundies. Was I still supposed to apply to it separately?

[Zeel]

Isn't the 23rd the mail-in deadline those who live outside of Ontario? Actually, don't you mean the 24th? Just making sure... that would suck if you showed up when you're not supposed to.

Got a question for hand drawings: I've shown my hand drawing to a life drawing professor who's currently teaching in the animation program, and he said my hands were TOO structural? He suggested I get rid of the blue lines altogether and just draw it 'naturally'?

I don't mean to undermine his credibility but everyone's hands in their portfolio (with a few exceptions) had their structure in blue, and their hands drawn over it? It's like it was tradition to do that... so I kinda feel like I'm taking a risk here. Last year, my hands got a 2 in structure (it had the blue lines and stuff though), and my (fundies) profs told me that it didn't have ENOUGH visible structure in it which was why they deducted points. Then again, the fundies profs I had weren't exactly the most reliable people... so what should I do? I don't think the life drawing prof I've mentioned is marking portfolios this year, so the opinions could be different?

Ha! you were right. I checked and it's feburary 29th and March 2nd for my illustration. Damn I have more time than I thought.


Also, about your hand drawing dilemma. You're over thinking it. You didn't lose marks because you had little to no construction lines. Structure is also a general word for just how well the hand looks. I've seen portfolio's with little to no construction lines and they got 4's across the board.

Either way, I would listen to your funies profs. I mean they would know, wouldn't they? Even if they are supar profs.


Oh gosh, for some reason I assumed if I wasn't accepted into the illustration program I would still be offered a position in the fundies. Was I still supposed to apply to it separately?

No they will automatically offer you a position. It's money for them afterall.

You can still apply btw. it's not too far past the due date.

[Crrristian]

Zeel- Ah, okay that's good to hear.

Just another question (and I apologize if it's already been asked, I'm too lazy to go through this thread) for the Illustration portfolio, one of the tasks is to draw a still life with basic shapes, and then you have to draw a second image where a change has occured to the still life. Does anyone know whether they are looking for you to physically change the objects, and draw them again from life, or if they just want to see any kind of change taking place?

[Zeel]

Zeel- Ah, okay that's good to hear.

Just another question (and I apologize if it's already been asked, I'm too lazy to go through this thread) for the Illustration portfolio, one of the tasks is to draw a still life with basic shapes, and then you have to draw a second image where a change has occured to the still life. Does anyone know whether they are looking for you to physically change the objects, and draw them again from life, or if they just want to see any kind of change taking place?

An external force. They dont want you just move around the objects, they want you to imagine the objects being changed. Think like; a great wind moving them, a storm soaking them. Your suppose to imagine the difference.

The second drawing should be from your imagination not from life. I believe there are creativity marks on that section as well. So get creative!

[D4ni3l]

I did gravity shutting off, but I didnt move the table.....I hope that wont be a problem. On a different note, anyone know if the storyboard should show construction lines, or be clean?

[dreamycrowdy]

can you tell me what's this option A and option B about? I see none in my portfolio register guide thingy.

[whatami]

Thanks everyone for the replies, I guess I will draw the hand "naturally" as he said and then draw in the construction lines later!

[Zeel]

can you tell me what's this option A and option B about? I see none in my portfolio register guide thingy.

There use to be two options for creating an illustration portfolio. Option A was the drawing test + a few personal works. Option B was all personal work. Something like that if my memory is anygood.

I guess they removed that now.

[dreamycrowdy]

ah I see.
thanks

[Jipai]

Oh yeah, are you guys drawing your own hands for your hand drawings? And do you think I should go over the life drawings I drew with blue col-erase using pencil?

[HocusPocus]

Hey guys.. I have a question for the Animation Portfolio...

For the Storyboarding.... it says

'' It's alright to draw larger panels and then reduce them to fit the storyboard template, but you must include the original drawings as well as the reductions

I'm wondering technically, how do you ''REDUCE" it? stupid question i know,, but do people actually 'reduce' it somehow to fit?<-like using a scanner?? , ooor do people just tediously RE-Draw it into the tiny squares?

???
??
?

[dreamycrowdy]

Hey guys.. I have a question for the Animation Portfolio...

For the Storyboarding.... it says

'' It's alright to draw larger panels and then reduce them to fit the storyboard template, but you must include the original drawings as well as the reductions

I'm wondering technically, how do you ''REDUCE" it? stupid question i know,, but do people actually 'reduce' it somehow to fit?<-like using a scanner?? , ooor do people just tediously RE-Draw it into the tiny squares?

???
??
?
scanner I guess, then you re-scale it with programs like ms.paint, photoshop, paint SAI, etc