Sheridan Information Please!

[softdrawer]

Meh... i'm fine with any class i guess. I only hate math.

As long as i get to do art for most of the time i'm good to go.

So i don't have to reach Sheridan to comfirm some kind of course picking stuff ?... i guess they'll send me stuff by mail....again.

:)

[endregan]

Yeah I just paid too. Lets hope OSAP comes through ! I am hoping for it!

[darth massacre]

Alright. Here's the full story. OCAD handed me a rejection letter just yesterday. So its going to be Illustration in Sheridan for me.

And because they took their time (I was holding out for their rejection or acceptance) I'm way behind on everything. Even with my student visa application and tuition fees payment (thank goodness the deadline is on the 29th June).

If anyone could help me out with housing options it'd be great. Since I'm outside of Canada, it would be helpful if anyone could point me some directions or some numbers to call.

Thanks loads upfront. And apologies if I incurred any inconveniences. Hope to see you guys there in September.

[endregan]

Good to hear youre coming to sheridan!

http://www.sheridansu.net/su/housing/index.htm

That will help you out a bit...

THing is youll probably want to call around and longdistance will be expensive. ALso you might want to visit the place, but I guess youll just have to work around that!

I am not sure, I went to the school and found postings on the walls and called around to find my place. It will be a bit more difficult internationally but the info is there!

[darth massacre]

My long distance calling service is quite affordable so its no problem.


Thanks loads dude. I'll be making some calls soon. I've also got a friend in Oakville who's helping me look around but I guess its better I call to find out for myself.


Once again, thanks loads!

[JJH]

Hi guys, I'm goin to art fundies this sept too.
I was just wondering if somebody can help me clear something out.
Extra life drawing. Is this a course? or is it an optional session you can attend as u wish. Where is it held?

Thanks.

[kennygeeze]

Hi guys, I'm goin to art fundies this sept too.
I was just wondering if somebody can help me clear something out.
Extra life drawing. Is this a course? or is it an optional session you can attend as u wish. Where is it held?


I took fundies this past year.
You have one weekly drawing course that is around 3 hours long that you are supposed to attend.


And... you have extra life drawing sessions that are optional. Extra life drawing classes are unlike your weekly drawing class because they only have the model and no instructor. Although optional it is *suggested* you attend as many as you can.
They're usually held once every late afternoon, last 3 hours, and run 4 or 5 days a week. Sometimes there's more than one session a day....
They're usually held in one of the several drawing studios the fundamentals students use.
If you wish to go to an extra life drawing session you just show up at the time and go to it.... no prior signing up is necessary. Sometimes they're really crowded (to the point of late arrivals being turned away at the door) sometimes there's barely any people (to the point where I show up 1 hour into the session and there's only 2 fundies students and the model already in there)

Hopefuly that helped.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yeah, I just took my first life drawing class the other night. I'm still new to it, but I'll be sure to get as many extra sessions in as possible when I attend Sheridan next fall. Hmmm, sounds like the open life drawing isn't always in the same spot and at the same time...looks like I'll really have to keep with it to attend =)
Thanks for your information.

[softdrawer]

Do we get to choose optional courses at any time before it starts ? or we just pick one when we get there ?... or we have to reserve a spot ?

thanx

alx

[endregan]

Well I got my receipt in the mail, but I am still working on all this Osap crap. It is a lot of paperwork but I guess it pays off in the end ;).

[kennygeeze]

If you even get to pick optional classes, the letter comes in the mail to do that sometime in august. People still register for classes like that even after orientation.... which is like right at the end of august.

[CoreyPierce]

hello everyone, I found this thread off google, looking for some Sheridan graduate friends I hadnt seen, ended up here.

I graduated from Sheridan in 2002 from Interpretive Illustration - you can see my stuff here: http://www.corey-pierce.com . I spent a year in Art Fundamentals before illustration.

Tips, news, realities. Some may scare you, some may calm you.

Art Fundamentals:
3d design, 2d design (B/w ink assignments & technique class), "imaging systems" which is like technical illustration, life drawing, painting and an elective class (photography, printmaking, woodworking, glassblowing, textiles were the choices when I was in Fundies. This was 1998 though and Fundies has changed since then) Art Fundamentals in many ways is harder and more expensive than 1st year illustration.

Fundies is harder because you are expected to perform in a wider variety of artistic tasks, all in your first year. By half the year up to 20% of my class dropped out. When I was there there were 300 people in Fundies, now there are several hundred more. Its more competitive now. Getting good grades in Fundies, however, is not difficult, so long as you stay on focus and spend a lot of time with your work.

Fundies is NOT A CLASS WHERE YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME PARTYING AND SUCCEED. What do I mean by succeed? Looking past good grades, I mean Direct Entry.

Remember these words. At least when I was there the top percentage/number of people in Fundies get to literally choose what course they wish to take next after Fundies: Illustration, Animation, Graphic Design, etc. This means no portfolio, no waiting around for letters, you're in, you're set, no worries. Its excellent. But its difficult. They take your marks from the first 7 weeks of the second half of the term and the best get to pick. If theres 'ties' then they look further back at your first term marks.

In my first half of Fundies I had a B average. But for the second half I was scared and feeling competitive, so I worked harder than I did in my entire 4 years of college and ended up with direct entry into illustration. Others didnt and still got into illustration after (my girlfriend did this), so its not the end of the world if you dont get it, dont kill yourself. But you've gotta try, you just gotta. Even if you dont get it you will put yourself in a much better position to get into other programs.

If you're just in Art Fundies to spend a year figuring out what you want to do with your life and dont care? Theres lots of people like that. In that case, make your own way. I'm speaking to the serious "career" kids here.

If you get Direct Entry into Animation you still have to go through an art test. If you want to get into Animation you have to be a Life Drawing Warrior. Which means you take that class ultra seriously, go to the extra night classes, study the body, and practise gesture drawing. If you dont do this, you might as well not even bother. Theres no give and take on this, no "i can take it easy and still make it". if you arent seriously dedicated, dont become an animator. Fundies for you will be art boot camp and you better know it in advance.

Don't expect to walk out of Fundies with an amazing style or as the best artist in the world. You probably wont be a whole lot different afterwards. Fundies in Sheridan is basically Grade 9. What you will have gotten is a sense of discipline and opportunities to do work you would have otherwise never had in high school.




to Illustration:

I'm going to be honest with you. Illustration at Sheridan has changed. A couple years ago I'd have told you that Sheridan is the place to be and OCAD sucks, blah blah blah. But now I dont consider much a difference, based on the work that has been coming out of the last two years' graduates. Dont get me wrong, theres still great stuff coming out here and there, but it doesnt stack up overall to what came out of my year or the couple years before me.

The head of illustration at Sheridan is Joe Morse, and he is one of the best illustrators in North America. You will know his stuff when you see it, or you can just see it at joemorse.com - he used to teach a lot of classes in 2nd and 3rd year but now he's the program co-ordinator. Its my opinion that he was so good that the students who have not have him have suffered for it. There are many other good teachers there but I dont think they stack up to what Joe can deliver.

Your first year of illustration starts off doign both technical and interpretive work After the first half you pick which section to go into and then you get more specialized courses. In 1st year you will get many similar assignments and classes to some Fundies work, but you'll notice the grading curve is harsher. Its harsher thoughout all illustration, becasue they expect more, and even more as you progress through the course. Even in first year you wont walk out with a style. Its all about laying a lot of solid foundations. YOu must learn to draw, learn the body, learn the rules of object drawing, how to draw perfect squares and circles and all that stuff freehand and fast, the color wheel, all that stuff you thought you knew - you re-learn it. You have to 'know the rules before you break them' sort of thing.

I wont talk about technical anymore becasue I dont knwo it. Lets just say it involves a lot of rendering, some model work, and la de da.

2nd year interpretive you get to spread your wings some more. Some of you will end up with a style by the end of the year (although theres no guarantee you'll keep it by the end of 3rd year). There are classes where you can experiment with different media, collaging, ink splattering, paint blotching, drawing things the way they definitely do not look. Theres a lot of classes on ideas and concepts. They show you the illustration cliches, and you basically learn the difference between comics, editorial cartoons, and illustration. They want you to either be clever and smart with your ideas, or maybe you can be a little more abstract depending on the style you work. its all about addressing the problem correctly. Editorial (magazine) illustrating, book illustrating, advertising illustration, you'll cover it all. You'll also have computer courses where you make websites, learn flash and html, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. - and you'll also you keep your very important life drawing and painting classes. Of all years of illustration, 2nd year is the one where you can loosen up the most and still do OK.

3rd year, they move you into the big communal room with your own desk for the year, and its serious business. You get the same drawing and painting, more editorial/advertising/book classes, and an important business class. DO NOT SKIP ANY CLASSES IN 3RD YEAR. Make sure you get everything done, you have your sketches and thumbnails done well in advance. Dont last minute anything. If you take it seriously, you will leave illustration in good shape for the 'real world'. for 4 weeks in the second term you do a work placement either with a working illustrator or a company, you arrange it, and hopefully you pick something up from that. At the end of the year its gallery and la de da, you're a graduate.

If your class is better than the last couple years, then some of you will be able to get work right away. I wont say how because thats getting way ahead of yourself, think about school now. Some of you will have to keep working and discipline yourself. You basically 'finish school' yourself by continuing working and experimenting at home. Some of you wont get work until several years after you leave Sheridan. It happens, frequently. That means dayjob kids, and finding time to better yourself.

its not easy, but if you love it, you'll do it and make it work. It hasnt been easy for me, but things are working out now. Keep your chin up and dont give up.

if any of you have any more questions, ask them here within the next couple days: i'll check in - otherwise feel free to email me about stuff.

[kennygeeze]

Thanks very much for all the info, Corey. That was very nice of you to write all that.

I just finished art fundamentals this past school year and I'm starting first year illustration in september.
A few things have changed since you left sheridan, I guess.... you might find them interesting.


Direct entry no longer exists. Highschool students, sheridan students, mature students all compete in the same big melting pot for spots in illustration and animation, etc.

Unfortunately my year of art fundamentals did not get electives. We were all just given art history as the 'elective' we didn't choose. It's too bad.... i was really looking forward to photography too.... however I think electives are perminantly removed.

Illustration and animation are both 4 years now... students graduate with an applied degree.

I have a question for you though.... I have practically 2 months until I start 1st year illustration. Any tips on what I should be practicing in my sketchbook and whatnot to prepare? I've been just drawing as many things from life as possible.... but I haven't really been focusing on too much.
Thanks.

[CoreyPierce]

if you have someone who can model for you for extended poses, great.

If you want to get ahead of yourself and think about concepts and ideas, I recommend opening up a Macleans or a Rolling Stone, take a look at their feature articles that use illustration, and try and make sketches of your own illustration idea to accompany the article.

As well, RESEARCH. a lot of first year and even second year students dont know other illustrators out there and what they're doing and how they work. Like GI JOe says, knowing is half the battle. Doing research will give you an advantage that extra drawing and painting cant even provide. I recommend that you go to this site: slap-press.com

on this site you will find basically a link warehouse of all illustrators across North America. Look at their websites and their artwork. Make note of not just the kind of work they do or the quality of the work they do, but take notice of who their client base is, and where they could improve on. Find cliches that a lot of them suffer from, and make note of the illustrators with the most clever ideas.

I can give you right now a list of names to research that will be important for you to know - each of them have websites. know their stuff!

Mark Ryden, Brian Cronin, Clayton Brothers, Dan Page/Riccardo Stampatori, Gary Baseman, Melinda Beck, Alain Pilon, Brad Holland, Gary Taxali, Christian Northeast, Christoph Niemann, Paul Davis, Henrik Drescher.

Pay attention not to just their ideas, but look at the small little things they do with the way they paint and draw. A lot of illustrators dont pick up on the subtleties of things people do to their boards or what they draw with or color schemes until way late in 2nd year/3rd year. If you can research and figure out how others do their work early, you will have an upper hand.

[endregan]

Hey Corey.

Great to see you stop by and give us some inside info... good to hear.

I am just leaving highschool and entering illustration, but I feel ready and I am always drawing and learning more and more.

I think life drawing is important, I recently took classes and am taking some over the summer to improve my life drawing skills so that I will be in shape for Sheridan!

That slap press site was awesome.

I guess I will have to wait and see what illustration is all about in september when it starts. It ends up Kenny and I will be living in the same townhouse and are both entering illustration so thats pretty cool, and my brother will be doing fundies. I was lucky and got to skip it.

Oh Corey you should stay and check out these forums...I have learned and progressed so much if not entirely inspired and motivated to do art originating from this site.

Good to hear from someone who is out there ;).

[CoreyPierce]

endregan,

You should know that the people who skipped fundies will have a tougher time in Illustration for the first couple months. Dont let it get you down, and work extra hard. Like I said, a lot of first year Illustration was a repeat of some of the harder Fundies class projects, so the Fundies grads are going to have a leg up on you and know whats expected.

If you think you're comfortable in life drawing, start doing some still life work. I know its boring, REAL boring, but it would do you good.

I have seen from looking on this site and portfolios people have posted that their life drawing/things they obviously copied from photos, are pretty good to very good. The shading is nice. I know myself from experience doing the same stuff that its easier copying photos for renderings.

The still life work I've seen on this site is not as good. The shading is missing the range, and the shadows are off, there doesnt seem to be much of a light source. Set yourself up a still life and put a harsh light source so you get some DEEP shadows. Dont worry, if you're lucky, Mr. Jack Taylor will still be your Object Drawing teacher when you're there, and you'll learn the secrets of reflected shadows and penumbras and all that. His class is usally marked the hardest, so you know.

SECRET:

When you submit your portfolios to Sheridan, its not just teachers that see them. Theres around 5-10 illustration students who volunteer and see everything. I was one of them. To anyone here thinking of applying: step up your still lifes, dont hand in abstract paintings, and dont send in comic book art. Not that I have anything against comic book art and fantasy art, but the teachers look down on it for portfolio because they see it as just copying someone elses characters. The portfolio requirements strictly say dont do it. And dont copy anyone elses illustrations, that will get you automatically disqualifed if you dont write down on the paper who it is a copy of and call it a "study" of the work. The teachers are smart. We had one really good guy a couple years ago but he had a bunch of submissions that were exact line drawing copies of Brad Holland illustrations from the 70s. As if we wouldnt notice.

Some other bad portfolio highlights:

page after page of hockey team logos, both poorly drawn and shaded.
TRACED drawings of pro wrestlers (we can tell by the lines on the back of the paper)
giant self-made posters of SPAWN and Dragonball Z colored with Crayola markers
Fake life drawings that were obviously taken from porno magazines as their reference
giant 9 foot paintings of a spider web. Really bad art cliches, cheesy. Giant spiderweb with Jesus on a cross stuck in it and a spider was eating him. (Whats funny is there are illustrators who could actually make this work, but with this person, heh)
Some guy who handed in his portfolio under the name "THE WOLF" and it was a series of drawings of chainsaws sawing off limbs, with accompanying pieces of writing about killing people.
Some guy did an anatomical drawing of the body, and labeled each part of the body with a Bible quote based on each body part. "if hand offends you cut it off blah blah" stuff.
Someone handed in their portfolio, each page crumpled up... in a garbage bag. Seriously.
And then theres the 3d sculptures. Dont hand in sculptures. Just dont.

[Red Mimic]

That would be fun to volunteer for. I remember the first time I went down to submit mine (didn't get in of course), I was always wondering what was in those large bags. The ones that were bigger than the artist themselves. I'm always curious about other peoples work.

[::EPIC::]

hi corey, thanks for the incite into fundies and the illustration program itself. Do you know how the classes break down the work as far as grading is concerned, is it mostly group based discussions or one on one with the teacher to determine a final mark.

I'll be entering AF in the fall.

[CoreyPierce]

in Fundies for the most part it is straight up to the teacher. You do your assignment you hand it in you get marked. No discussion except for in progress you might get their feedback on how to make it better and get a better grade, and sometimes you get chances to re-do or do more work and get your mark raised. The only class in Fundies that there was discussion before marking was 3d design, where there was a basic "show and tell" formula.

In illustration there is a lot of group critique at every stage - mainly in 3rd year. in the rough sketch stage, progress stage and finished piece stage there are extended critiques, sometimes harsh, on the ideas, concepts, whats workign, what isnt, what could make it better, etc.

[endregan]

hey Corey, this is a pretty large site, and I dont think it does any justice to view a few threads and speak of people copying photos...

if you really look around you will see that there are artists with tons of experience, and of course there are those like myself in the middle, progressing and learning and so on.

I agree with you, drawing from life is the best. I have painted and done still lives and they are really helpful in training the eye to see and not just that but line, rendering, light and so on. I liked doing the ones for the portfolio because I had to sit down and just do them instead of push it off, you know, I really wanted to get in and I worked away at it all of January.

Yeah skipping fundies may be a bit tough, but I am not sure yet, we will see. I am definitely not exposed to what goes on in fundies but I am sure I will be able to keep up, I always give it my all, and especially for what I am most passionate about.

Yeah so just to restate, the work on here that you see may be some guy in the other part of the world with 1 month of experience, or you may come across a professional artist, so dont say that this site has bad art! We are learning or there are hiding professional and busy artists that have old threads that you will find magnificient art... Just use the search feature I am sure you will be impressed. Oh and generalizing we all copy from photos is wrong, not to say the odd time you want a really dynamic pose or armoury and cant find it, well there is the thing called google out there~!

I was wondering if you have a site with your traditional works in it. I checked out your site but there were only a few illustrations and no life drawing or painting! I would like to see more :)

[softdrawer]

Hey Corey, Thanks for all the information.

I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.

1- I'm going into Bach of applied arts ( animation ) and i'm a 1st year student. I would love to hear some info about the program, how to handle it. ( That's if you know something about it and you want to comment on it .)

2- How did you managed your schedule and home environment? Because i will be living on my own, renting a place somewhere around the campus in Oakville and i'm not so sure about what to expect and get.

3- What was the most important ting that you learned coming out of Sheridan. Doesn't have to be a technical aspect of it, can also be social or personnal.

Oh well, i had these questions in mind for a little while, thanks if you can clear out my thoughts ! :googley:

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Now i have a question for everybody. How did you get to find a place to live while attending Sheridan and how much were/will you be spending for it.

I am curently going thru the Sheridan Student Housing website, they've got some adds and i'm phoning people. Not the best since i live far from Oakville, therefore hard for me to visit or expect anything. I'm ready to pay around 400 to 500 per month for a place... is that fair or should i get real and expect more ?

Anyway, if you have any experience, hints on the housing subject, please give your opinion/experience.

Thanks all.

alx

[endregan]

Hey softdrawer. The housing on sheridan is a great portal, but also I suggest going right to Sheridan College and check out the billboards as well. My brother and I went out in June and found a place. We are paying 500 a month which is probably the average price for comfortable housing. Townhouses are really nice, though I never really got a chance to check out many apartment buildings.

Bottom line you will want to get out there and SEE the places so you know what they are like! We went to a couple houses and they just had tiny rooms and you share with like a family in a little house kind of thing at this one place we checked out.

So yeah, check out the website and stop by sheridan, and good luck :). Usually its more affordable rooming with other people, but be careful you dont end up with a bunch of partiers because you will be distracted from your work ;).

[Red Mimic]

Hey, I found a place the first day I looked. I guess it's really what you expect to find. I didn't really have high standards though, just rules bother me. Plus I basically cross a street and I'm at the school.

I just ended up with a room in some guy's house that works the AM hours and I have run of the house mostly. I haven't moved in yet so I wonder how it will work out. I was browsing for awhile but only looked at a few of the ones I wrote down. 500 bucks a month seemed to be the popular rent so I don't think you're asking too much to pay that. There are the odd ones that go under 400 too.

There is this group of houses run by this italian couple Geno and Angela (i think that's the names). The properties seem nice but some of the houses are really grungy inside. They own a few houses and only rent them out to students. Some students were still living in them when i visited but I still found it hard to believe it would be that dirty. Also one house smelt like it had an oil leak.

[darth massacre]

Hi again gentlemen. It appears I might not be going back to school after all. Its a long story and I don't think I should rant out loud here.

I want to thank all of you for your advice and help over the last few months regarding applications, electives, and notes on what to expect. It seems like such a waste to give up a slot at Sheridan, but I think at this moment I'm better off staying closer to my family and sort out my own problems.



Once again, thank you all for your support and help. I wish everyone here who is going into the program, especially Endregan and Wildsprucemoose, only the best. And that you guys will continue to push harder, improve and make a name for yourself in the industry.

I'm just going to hurry along now and get back to my projects.

Thank you all. :ahha:

[softdrawer]

Woaw, heh fast reply.

Thanks guys, nice info. I was thinking of going there too but i'm only moving in August ( End ), which leaves me only a few days before school starts. So here's the problem, i can't see the place i will be renting untill i get there or the owner sends a lot of pics ( which will most likely not going to happen ).

So yeah, i don't want to wait neither and find out all the places are sold out.

[endregan]

Yeah soft just check it out right away. There are a lot of options!

Darth- That is sad news! Well if you believe it is for the best, then stay for a bit until you figure things out. I am sure you will figure things out and come eventually ;). All the best of luck and I am glad I could be of some assistance. Keep in touch and tell us what you are up to!

[sormint]

I've been looking all weekend for Sheridan people and I just stumbled onto your post about litetable.com. It's a buggy site, it seems, but it's just what I was looking for. I'm entering the Digital Character Animation program in sept and wanted to get a better idea of what the students and alumni are up to. It's really hard to find student work from that program and the three I did find weren't that impressive. The classical stuff seems much better. Anyways, thanks.

[JJH]

Hey Kenny thank you for the information on the life-drawing classes. I'm all pumped and ready for fundies, can't wait to get started.

By the way I've been told by a few people that Sheridan may open up a January admission for the 4-year animation program. Can anybody confirm this?


Thank you.

[CoreyPierce]

"hey Corey, this is a pretty large site, and I dont think it does any justice to view a few threads and speak of people copying photos..."

I meant by the few things I saw posted that people were going to use as portfolio for Sheridan. The reason I assume they were copied from photo is it was my opinion that the shading/drawing of people from what I saw were overall seemed much more complete and confident than some of the still life.

I dont post any life drawing or other work on my website because its a professional website. By the end of 3rd year and beyond you are expected to sell your work based on your style and how well you execute that style. The life drawing tools you get will help you come up with one in some cases. It actually is considered unprofessional to have some seperate life drawing type section, unless you regularly do life painting/drawings and get work for it/sell it. And even then, one has to consider if their life drawing/painting is up to par with their illustration style, and whether or not it could damage your reputation. Beyond that, if you're working regularly as an illustrator, you dont get a lot of time to sit back and do a complete painting of still life. You needn't worry about this sort of stuff at this time, you worry about school first.


softdrawer:
1- I can't tell you much man. I lived with an animation student for 2 years and let me tell you, if you're doing well, you're never home. You'll always be busy, you'll be at "Extra Life Drawing" (extra night class) every night. It scares me how hard the animation team is pushed. They were certainly busier than our class was, honestly. So I guess just make sure you're with the herd. Herd mentality in the Animation program seems to work.

2- The first year I lived in Oakville, but I had to bus. It was around 25 minutes getting there. At one time there was almost a strike and buses would have been canceled. I could have had to walk with my heavy-ass portfolio across town every day if that had happened. There isnt much to say about this, but living somewhat close to the school is a big advantage if you dont have a car. You'll be surprised how many times you need to get back there for some stupid little thing or another. Especially animation students, with their extra classes (you'll want to come home for short spurts for sleep and go back for the night).

3- Discipline. In high school you do X amount of work and it seems like a lot, but its NOTHING compared to what you do in college in Sheridans art programs. You teach yourself how to get things done, and if you do it right, find a way to get yourself doing assignments right away rather than waiting till the last minute (like you probably will for most 1st year assignments - its true)

The other thing I learned and everyone should learn is to check their ego. Every artist has one and you'll never lose it because we all know sometimes having people judge your work, esp. in comparison to other talented peoples, sucks. So you have to learn to not get bothered too much by what other people are doing. Or at least find a balance between competitiveness and just doing work to make yourself happy. Its difficult. Theres a lot of people who get really upset at bad grades or when their piece doesnt turn out and they have to show it to the class anyway. Some people end up not turning assignments in and taking a 0 instead of letting people see their bad piece. A few drop out or have breakdowns. yes, i'm serious. I nearly had one at one time over an unfair grade, or was outraged at how others were graded/criticized by teachers. But looking back now, so much of it doesnt really matter, and we were actually all better for having taken all the sharp criticism. You will get it in the business world, so you better start taking your lumps in school from people who are there to help you.



I've heard nasty things about the Geno and Angela places. Watch out..

you guys all know about the Sheridan Housing Board right?

[darth massacre]

My whole life was turned upside down.

It appears I'm going instead of not going. I'll be applying for a government study grant and that will cover the tuition fees. For the first year my folks just have to fork out the amount (which they already have) and hopefully the grant application will go through from yr 2 onwards. That will take a huge load off my parent's accounts and I'll be guaranteed to come home for 2 years (at least) to serve my bond to the country.

Looks like I'll be seeing you folks after all!



Hey Corey, I was looking at all your posts.....excellent advice. Now you got me REALLY SCARED. I've not been doing a lot of drawing the last 3 months after quitting my job, just some children's book illustration for spare cash. I have a feeling I'll be falling behind in the first year.

[endregan]

Corey- Yeah haha I guess I know what you mean now. My bad, I thought you meant everyone on this site. I didnt even think people would draw from photos and submit that :O. I just submitted a lot of my sketchbook and then did the structured application assignments, I think there were like 15 of them. I really learned a lot from them, I am glad I did them, not just because I got accepted though!

Thanks for the advice when I make my website, I was thinking of putting it all up, but I guess if I had a personal site for just art lovers I could do that, and then have a business side. (Or something ;)).

I am so excited. Geez processing Osap takes a month, I dont know how much I am getting, if any, yet... I pretty much rely on Osap so lets hope, I assume they will give me something haha :).

Oh and congrats darth, guess we will see you after all

[CoreyPierce]

darth - dont be scared, just be aware and knowledgeable. whatever experience you have doing those childrens book stuff can only help you. Theres more than one path, dont ever forget that.

endregan - the same. maybe you can find a way to 'put it all up' and make it work for you, or clarify that one thing is what you do, and the other stuff is recreational?

Let me use this one site as an example, this is a guy who graduated a year after me - whitehaze.com - now I think he's good enough to maybe get some work with his style, but he's made his site so big and convulated and including so much personal stuff that I think it takes away from his work, and would confuse any art director who went to his site. An art director doesnt have a whole lot of time to explore all that is you. They just want to see your work, take note, and get the hell out of there.

There are a few illustrators who are big enough they can get away with doing whateverthehell they want with their sites - like J. Otto Seibold - jotto.com I think is his site. His site is huge and has tons of stuff, but it all revolves around his work really, and he's bigtime so he can do what he wants... this is the guy whose style was used for the Olive the Other Reindeer Xmas special.

[JJH]

Corey, one thing that you mentioned disappoints me. I was thinking that I would be able to ask the instructor almost anything. Kind of like a support person offering advice, criticism, opinions and such. So I guess they give you a lesson, and you either can do it or not?

[CoreyPierce]

I was always able to talk to teachers about anything. I never had that problem, I had my stuff in front of everyone and if they had something negative to say I took it.

Like I said, some people have a huge ego and they wont put themself in that position to "look weak" in front of other students. Competitive to a fault.

You get the assignment and you're supposed to do it, with deadlines for each stage just as you would in real life. If you dont meet them you fall behind. If you dont do the assignment you dont get the mark.

[designgoblin]

As a graduate of the Sheridan Illustration program, my one and only suggestion to anyone trying to get in, or to fundies for that matter (which I also took) is work on your sketchbook(s) . Most of the teachers when I was there were interested in how you see, no how you polish. The technique and media skills come with time so they're primarily interested in seeing good, solid drawing skills. OCAD was the same but I got a bad vibe from that school (very snooty) so Sheridan suited me better. Also, the exposure to the animation department was a huge plus there and I made several solid industry friends who've gone on to great jobs, and even sent work my way.

It's no big secret really, just draw all the time. Keep everything in a good sized sketchbook and bring as many as possible when you meet anybody. Some of your best finished work aswell but most instructors I met spent 80% of the interview looking at my sketchbooks.

Hope that helps.

DG>>

[JJH]

designgoblin: Nice information. I have always known that sketchbooks are important, but I am curious as to what size I should draw at. Do you have any suggestions? What is too big and what is too small.

[designgoblin]

Well, I had many sizes. Some small ones 5"x7" I used for discreet sketching on the subway in Toronto, etc, others went as large as 11"x14" for at-home or general use. These I used mostly as I could do several sketches on one page around a single subject and just drop one and move on if it didn't work out. This would show a progression and it also gave me lot's of room to mess up ;)

Make sure you get one with decent paper (ie. not the cheapest one you can find although that would do aswell) and I found the hardbound ones (not spiral bound) worked well and preserved the drawings well for those times someone had to skim through them.

Last time I looked, Canson or Strathmore carried something like I used. Try Loomis&Toles (http://www.loomisartstore.com/) or Curry's Art Supplies (http://www.currys.com/index.asp - the Younge St. store was a fav hangout of mine). Then there's Graphix(?) on Queen St. (if it's still there..near Edwards book store) They're great but not cheap. Or Woolfits, also on Queen.

The Sheridan bookstore used to carry them too.

But really you can use any reasonable paper and collect it together in a book or portfolio. The books just make it easier for everyone :)



DG>>

[JJH]

HmM!! Interesting interesting... Can the hardbound sketchbook paper handle watercolour?

[darth massacre]

I believe there are watercolor sketchbooks available too. But most of the guys I saw just used watercolor on whatever paper they get their hands on anyway.




I really need to draw more often.

[softdrawer]

Are we supposed to get any other letters from Sheridan before it starts ? It just seems to be a while ago since i got any information about the program and all the blabbing. I think it was the tuitions receipt letter...

Oh well, at least i found a good enough place to live. Havn't said the final word to them though.

:dance:

[kennygeeze]

I recieved a bunch of stuff during august. For some reason I remember it being alot, but it's probably because I printed some junk off the internet as well.

You'll probably get an invitation to orientation, your schedule.... if you have to pick an elective you'll probably get a letter about that. I don't know of anything else.... I can't think of anything else that would warrant a letter.

[Hexal]

I got a call about last week from a student rep or something, and they told me about the school and the programs they have there, she also said that orentaion is on the august 31th. Did anyone else get a letter earlier like before school ended this year about the glenna carr award? I got one and they said if was because of my good marks(whos marks were they looking at :o) to send in a port? I picked my work up yesterday and the lady said they where mailing out letter to see if you got it or not already, anyone get one?

[JJH]

I also recieved that call. Orientation is August 31st. Two or so weeks before the day the program starts, we will recieve stuff in mail. I believe it is the scheduales.

[kennygeeze]

Hexal, are you just coming out of highschool?

[softdrawer]

I don't recall any calls from Sheridan. I got a whole lot of letters during may / june but thats it.

As for that carr award i think i got a letter about that too... and i am coming out of highschool as well. I dunno what that is ( probably gone down the trash can ).

Oh well, hope i get to do the rightthings in time. :rolleyes:

[JJH]

I recieved my call almost a month ago. My friend just recieved it today. So it is probably coming.

[Hexal]

Hexal, are you just coming out of highschool?
yes, why?

[WildSpruceMoose]

It would seem that my marks were not deserving of the glenna carr award--I'm starting to think that staying back at highschool an other year and taking all optional courses that get you 98% would have been a better choice.

Thanks for all of the information kenny and corey, I will read it over again.

I've been somewhat inactive now for 2 weeks, but am coming back with a fury. Its my birthday today(and my bro's), 18 finally =) I must practise visual accuity for school next year! I'll be starting a daily sketchbook within the next week, and will post my life drawing sketches in it.

Thanks for the info again kenny and corey, glad to hear you are coming afterall darth_masscare. Best of luck getting everything organized softdrawer and hexal. Oh--and happy birthday bro ;) I'm off to the dentist now, haha.

[carpal]

There is this group of houses run by this italian couple Geno and Angela (i think that's the names). The properties seem nice but some of the houses are really grungy inside. They own a few houses and only rent them out to students. Some students were still living in them when i visited but I still found it hard to believe it would be that dirty. Also one house smelt like it had an oil leak.

hahaha, if you looked at the house on Kent and Leighland that is where I stayed last year. upstairs overlooking the road. I can guarantee it was dirty, and not because of anything Gino did but because of some of the worst room-mates I could ever imagine. I am so glad to be out of there. After spending like 6 hours cleaning that place after school was out and making it look great, 2 of the other room-mates had a big party that brought POUNDS of dirt in, when I woke up there were BLOODY rags everywhere and kids sleeping in their own puke.

I definitely wouldn't recommend his properties just on the basis that I had a bad situation. He takes care of anything that he is called about and he has a real can-do attitude. Don't get on his bad side though or he will rape you in court. (which he has done before) he is a police officer too.

that is just really funny thinking about other people looking at the house I lived in and the landlord I got to know.

[endregan]

Pz that sounds terrible. Good thing I never got myself into that!

[Red Mimic]

Haha, that is funny. I was probably standing in your old room. I don';t remember the street names anymore, was yours the one with the 2 upstairs bedrooms, a ground floor one, and 2 basement?

[darth massacre]

Whoaa! Thanks for the heads up. I'm still looking for my housing and I've not settled down on anything yet. Gonna be hard for me. Anyway I'm stuck doing my reserves training now, Army fatigues for me one last time!

Happy Belated Birthday Endregan and Spruce. Wow, 18...geez that was such a long time ago for me. You guys are making me feel like an old man!






Blood hell, fitness test with the battalion on Tuesday. My legs won't move.

[endregan]

Hey darth thanks for the birthday wishes :)

Good luck in the army.

We must do push up contests when you get over here eh ;).

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yeah, thanks. I'm drawing more since my birthday. Yay. Still not enough, but hopefully I have developed good habits by next semester. Best of luck with the training and hope to see you soon--buff up for that fitness test! Feel the burn =D

[endregan]

one month left of summer

Get readddddy

[Red Mimic]

...And 6-7 days :D

The Tuesday is the first day right?

[endregan]

Yeah when do classes start? I am still waiting for something in the mail :P.

Is orientation the last week in august or what?

Still have to figure it all out and plan when to move in to Oakville.

[Red Mimic]

Anyone know when the Christmas break usually starts? I am trying to plan a trip during my break and if any previous or current students would fill me in I will mail you some in flight peanuts.

[Hexal]

orientation is on the 31th of August i got a call about it awhile ago. I maybe be wrong but im sure its the 31th.

[Nayuki]

Hi everyone!

I don't think I have posted in this thread yet, but I'm going to be going for art fundies this September too ^^. I just have a few questions.

Is there internet access at Sheridan? I'm trying to decide whether to get cable internet in the basement apartment I'm currently living in or not. The landlord says it's $20 each month for it. I pretty much need the net, for looking for references, keeping in touch, and more.. ^^;;

I'm also wondering if Sheridan provides any art materials for you to use? Or do you have to buy your own?

And for those that have already gone for art fundamentals, and have lived away from home to go there, approximately how much $$ will you end up spending each week? such as for food, (art materials?), and anything else..

also, does anyone know if you are allowed to change your time tables if let's say Sheridan doesn't give you one you really like. I want to get Friday off so I can at least go home for the weekends and then back to school on Monday..

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out with finding out answers to these questions ^^

[kennygeeze]

As a former fundies student I think I can answer your questions, Nayuki.

There is internet access at sheridan. They have computer labs there although you might have to get access password or register to use them once you get there... not sure. There's terminals everyone can use but sometimes they don't have E-mail access on them for some reason. When you get your student planner that they give out for free at orientation it has information all about that.
Also... if you have a lap top with a network cable there are internet ports you can hook into practically everwhere in the college.... even the cafeteria.

When you start art fundamentals you are given an art 'kit' in a large duffle bag. Basically it's most of what you need for your first two months while at sheridan. There might be a few other things you have to purchase.
It includes 1 roll of newsprint, starter painter set, brushes, some drafting supplies, art markers, and some miscellanious school/ art supplies. Some things will last you all year while other things you'll use up during your first week.

As far as I know sheridan allows time table changes.... although it might depend on the reason if they're already backed up with alot of other requests.

I moved into a townhouse condo dealy a half an hour walk from the school. Rent was about 500.
As far as weekly supplies and whatnot.... I wouldn't necessarily go grocery shopping every single week. Sometimes if I was lucky enough to have my parents visit we'd go grocery shopping for that month and I'd just load up the trunk with as much frozen food and cans as I would realistically eat around that time.
But most of the time I was probably eating for no more than $5 a day... sometimes alot less... like if I had a can of soup for lunch and then pasta for supper.... that's like $2 that day-- not even. Then I might have the extra pasta I made the next day for lunch.
I guess it just depends what you're willing to eat and what you're willing to put up with. Buying that sandpaper toilet paper will save you alot of money too... heh.

[darth massacre]

Use water! Save money on toilet paper :bashful:

I just got back from training and now I need to finalise my frikin flight plans. See all of you there in about 25 days time. That's if this stupid sprained ankle doesn't slow me down.

[endregan]

Hey Kenny when are you moving in? Petey and I are movin in at the end of august I think. We probably have to get a moving van because of two of us moving.

I still havent gotten the call about orientation. I think I will call and ask about that and when classes start and such. Do classes start before labour day usually ?

Kenny - You are lucky. Petey and I are master chefs. Well not master, but we know how to cook haha. If you ever want a good meal I am sure we could work something out ;). ALthough I am not sure how busy we will be and all with Illustration, we'll find out though. Maybe we will pay petey with pencils to cook us dinner every night. That would be nice. haha.

I am thinking of bringing my bicycle to get to Sheridan. Do they have bike racks or something? I was just thinking that some days I may not want to walk and it would be handy to ride my bike places if i needed something.

The count down continues! :o

Are you all ready?

It is just starting to hit me, im moving out very soon so I better start thinking of what Ill need and what to pack.

[kennygeeze]

Hey, Endgregan

I'm not exactly sure yet when I'm moving back in. As it is right now probably not before September starts because I'm busy with a bunch of stuff here quite possibly up until labor day.
Last year school started after labor day.

Hehe, that's awesome that you guys know how to cook. I'll look forward to that :} heh.
Last year contituted the first time I ever made a grilled cheese myself so I'm probably not that experienced.

I'm also wondering when school starts. Could you make a post if you find out?

Yeah, sheridan has bike racks or at least some place to put them. We might have to check around a bit to see where they are when I give you the short tour on how to get there.
My room-mate rode his bike quite a bit of the time as well.

I'll probably move back in hopefully *before* the day before classes start :[ I don't like being in that much of a rush.

Not to sound like some anal guy that has to plan everything before it happens or whatever.... but I figure after I get there at some point and you and your brother have both moved in ----I'd show you the fastest way to get to sheridan as well as some other stuff.

And tell you tales about living there last year and some of the weird stuff that happened.

I figure we'd divy up the household chores so it's something we can all agree with. The place doesn't get *that* dirty (despite what the landlord might try and tell you) -- but basically as far as that is concerned the two things that were making the place really messy moved out :) so yay.
Also, if we keep the place clean the landlord doesn't come by as much. Which is good despite the fact she is a nice person.

The one thing I was wondering today was whether or not someone has taken the basement bedroom yet. I assume you and your brother took the two bedrooms in the upstairs?
Anyways, I guess if there's a 4th person going to be living there I'll find out in september. The last time I was there to sign the lease the landlord was telling me about a person from the states that was interested in moving in, but that was back at the beginning of June. Perhaps it's them.

[softdrawer]

I'm not bringing much stuff there anyways. Cloth, computer and personal stuff... that's about it.

I get the food in the price where i live so. But i get to make my own during weekends but i don't mind. (been working as a cook for over 2 years now.) :rolleyes:

I'm not event stressed about moving. I've been doing that for all my life. about 5 different elementary schools and 5 high. Throughout 2 languages and a parents divorce. Meh, the usual really.

I just want to start now and finish it. Get over the studies and do good.

Too bad i have to leave my sweet heart behind, that kills me. :\ :dead:

[WildSpruceMoose]

Luckily the only strings attached to me are cats, dogs and parents. I guess I'm lucky.

I just cleaned up my room--trying to make it easier for the move and all. It would see we are heading up around the 25th-26th of august.(I know early) A nice student from senior year called me tonight as part of the outreach program and gave me some information. Orientation is on the 31st--schedules and other info is being mailed asap.(I have yet to recieve my osap info arghhh!) and school starts on sept.7th--not bad, we get a couple weeks to get used to things. Showing us the fastest route would be awesome!

So I need to see about a credit card(to make tuition payements easier) and cheques and various other things requiring paperwork :er:

Ohya, kenny, we were just wondering about things like cable/phone etc. Has it been connected all summer and we just continue to divie the cost depending of long distance bills etc, or do we need to hook it all up again? Just need to know to make things easier when we move--hooking up computers etc.

Dividing the chores is a good idea--picking up after ourselves should simply be the first step =) Cooking etc. should probably wait until we can all agree. Shared food bills etc. may become an issue so I'm not entirely sure how that will work.

Anyway, I must get back to drawing.

Seeya soon,
Pete

EDIT: a lot was directed towards kenny--but pick out info that will help you all (darth, mimic, soft, nayuki, Hexal, epic etc.) as you see fit ;)

Second Edit: Feel free to check out my sketchbook thread fellas, and leave a comment to help me out =D I'm worried I'm not at a decent skill level for fundies. Its freakin me out!
my sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27172)

[endregan]

kenny- Sounds good. Thanks for all the help, geez I would probably be lost without ya. Sounds like last year there were two sillies who ruined the atmosphere of living well? Haha I cant wait to hear the stories.... man I have a feeling we will have some good times!

Good news about the bike! Lately I have been riding my bike a lot more. I should probably get a helmet if I will be riding around Oakville though.


Grilled Cheese! Man you are lacking in the cooking area. We will have to teach you a thing or two :). Me and petey are lucky, our parents made us learn to cook and we have been doing it once a week for our entire family since I can remember basically :). Nothing like quality cooking I tell ya...food is key!

Yeah chores is always fun. No worries, we have been cleaning dishes, the floors, the bathrooms for a while in our own home so were used to it. I guess well figure out when it needs cleaning and who does what. No worries about "being anal' its good to be prepared and get settled, I know what ya mean.

Oh and before I forget. I believe there is someone living in the townhouse right now. I believe hes going into 1st year art fundies.

The clock is ticking..!

Softdrawer- where did you cook ? Well have to hire you and pay you with erasers to cook for us, master chef ;).

Sheridan is so close now. Soon I can put faces to names.

[softdrawer]

Softdrawer- where did you cook ? Well have to hire you and pay you with erasers to cook for us, master chef ;).

Hahaha, i used to work at Santa Lucia, cooked a whole lot of pasta / lasagna / pizza / salads / garlic / jiros and all the blabla but now just the smell of it makes me go green. But like i said before i'm done with the cooking for a while haha. But i know how to cook other things as well, that has to come from my mother who used to teach me how to do things in the kitchen. But still, i'm way too busy ! :P

Man i havnt got any phone call still, and no letters whatsoever since a long time. Maybe they forgot my adress or lost my infos i dunno... :dur:

Oh well... i'm leaving around august 15 - 18. so ill be there in the 20's. That's a kinda early, i'm gonna have to hook with you guys at one point and hava chat !! ;)

[darth massacre]

Geez you guys are all packed and set to go. I'm still not doing much!! I've not even confirmed my flight itinerary yet!!!!

I just gotta figure out how to bring all my books there.

[::EPIC::]

lol, me neither im hopelessly lost in a sea of unpraparedness... heck i still haven't purchased the car i need for school Jetta TDI *drools* in standard, and i've never driven standard.....SO if you hear a crash the first day of school you know I've arrived :[

[softdrawer]

lol, me neither im hopelessly lost in a sea of unpraparedness... heck i still haven't purchased the car i need for school Jetta TDI *drools* in standard, and i've never driven standard.....SO if you hear a crash the first day of school you know I've arrived :[

I wish I'd have a car.

[Red Mimic]

Helmets are for sissies! Same goes for brakes, don't need em. Makes you weak. :D

Seriously, anyone know the bike laws in Oakville? I have aquired a nice shitty red bike that barely works (back brakes are out for now, along with gears) and love riding it around my town now.

At Epic :

Damn you! That is the car I want (or a golf)! I miss my old standard golf from last year :( But you even got a TDI. Anyways, you won't crash in a standard, but we might hear a lot of grinding and see a lot lurching coming down the road until you get the hang of it. You won't go back to an automatic once you get good at it. It still bugs me to drive one after using a standard for 2 years.

[Nayuki]

Hey Kenny~~
Thanks a bunch for answering my questions. They were helpful to me ^^
This is going to be my first time living away from home, so I'm pretty clueless at alot of this stuff. Hopefully everything works out well ^^;;.

btw, how heavy is the workload for art fundamentals? I'm just wondering since I want to work on my own art in some of my freetime (to make prints throughout the year in time to sell for this anime con next May ^^;; ) Are there any stuff that we should buy in advance during back to school sales that we might need (or run out of from that art kit provided by Sheridan)?

and hmm.. I suppose I should just write a quick blurb about myself since I've just popped in here out of the blue ^^;;.. basically, I'm just your average Chinese girl, and the place where I'm staying is pretty much across from the school 0___o;;.. The place seems pretty clean and decent, and the landlord rents out only to girls, so hopefully my other roommates will be pleasant people. I hope I'll get to see some of you guys around at Sheridan. I wish you guys all the best :)

[WildSpruceMoose]

Sounds like its gonna be a good year =) endregan and I are planning the move in the mid 20s of August--so anyone else who will be up at that time (looking at softdrawer) should definetly look us up =D We can scout locations for a meet--tour the school together, etc.

The nervousness and fear of something new is passing and the hardwork is starting. Still have a few things on my "things to do list" and I'm managing drawing time :D Sounds like I'll be picking up a bike too, and a lock, and a helmet. I think it is only 10-15 away from where I live on bike.

Great to see so many replies and so many people excited about going!

Must thank kenny for all his help again =)

I have to go get my computer desk now, so I'll check in the thread later.

[softdrawer]

Yeah we should find some place, i'll have a good week to do nothing in my room.

Do they have a gym at trafalgar ?... ill hangout there for a bit perhaps.

Luckily i live at like 5 minutes walk from the school, something like on the other side of a park. Anyway, that will save me up some time and $.

Are you guys planning on getting a job in Oak? I thought about it. Neone knows if there's jobs offers AT the school?

An other thing... i don't know if anyone of you heard about that but is there a way to have summer course or intensive programs to go faster through my terms and years ? I'm doing a Bach(4years) and i wish i could make it in 3 or 2. I'd be ready to put the effort and all.

Oh well, lets hope evrything goes well as planned. :wink:

[Red Mimic]

To Nayuki:

What exactly does an "average Chinese girl" mean?

[Hexal]

Hey good to hear people are getting their stuff together. im moving like next tuesday to my house so its all good. WildSpruceMoose,endregan if you guys got some biking going on im in i enjoy a good bike around.

[darth massacre]

Ok, hell, exactly how many people are headed there this Fall?

Endregan
WildSpruceMoose
Mimic
Softdrawer
Nayuki
Hexal
EPIC
Darth Massacre


That's my count. Did I miss out anyone?

Looks like Kenny will be real busy with all the newbies.

:dur:

[Nayuki]

To Nayuki:

What exactly does an "average Chinese girl" mean?

I don't think it's supposed to mean much? 0___o;;
I'll just say I don't fit those wierd American stereotypes of Chinese people as in I can't speak English properly, and am a whiz in math in sciences.
And I mean average as in I could be any Chinese girl walking down the street kind of way ^^;; I don't think I meant it in any other way than that. Unless you were thinking something else 0___o??

[WildSpruceMoose]

If/when I get my bike I suppose I'll be in for a bike ride. I'm not "new" to biking, but we'd still have to go easy--and on the sidewalks on those 6 lane highways! >:D

Oh, there'll be plenty o' newbies =P

Counting down to my move day. Some wonky stuff going on with uhaul so we are looking into ryder. 16 days now, hehe.

Until next time,
Pete

[JJH]

Darth Massacre you missed ME!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
:yawn:

yep looking forward this year. gonna be a blast.

[Red Mimic]

Ok,

Just so you know I had just finished work and have been working with a nasty cold so I was easily confused by some words. Despite what it says in your location (didn't think to look there), I thought you lived in China. My mind will be up to speed soon.

If you had written, "I'm an average girl who is Chinese" I think i'd be ok. Maybe I shouldn't post when I'm worn out.

Sorry for asking a stupid question :)

[darth massacre]

Endregan
WildSpruceMoose
Mimic
Softdrawer
Nayuki
Hexal
EPIC
JJH
Darth Massacre

Ok got that, Who else did I miss out?



Mimic, you hitting on Nayuki already? >:D

Oh yeah, I'm an average Chinese (Old) guy too. Will be looking upon you folks to guide me around the area and with regards to Canadian culture when I'm there. Geez I'm gonna look soooo out of place. >:D

[endregan]

The days are numbered!~! Dont worry darth we will culturize ya, we'll culturize you good. Just say "eh" a lot and you'll fit right in with us fellow Canadians!.

:)

[darth massacre]

Sooo, its that simple eh? I guess I'll fit in pretty fast then eh? How's that for a start? :teeth:


Ok on a more serious note. I've read through what Kenny had wrote about fundies and their huge duffel bag with all the goodies to last them a couple of months before they had to start purchasing their own materials. I'm just interested to know if 1st yr Illustration students will get the same type of gear?

If not, then it'd be great to get a list or an idea what I'll need to bring from SG. Even if its priced the same, we pay only 5% tax here instead of 15% so that itself is a huge amount of savings for me. Stuff like pencils, markers, charcoals, pastels and so on....even newsprints or whatnot....an idea what's needed would help a lot. I've already got tonnes of art tools like curves and squares and rulers so they're all going into the lugguage.

Errr, we're not going to do Oil are we?

[JJH]

Wow I just got mail from Sheridan with information about the upcoming Orientation! We can do so much like buy all the stuff you need, textbooks, get lockers, and more! Can't wait! So excited!

Oh and if you want to fit more into our culture just end every sentence with 'Eh!"... HAHA that's what I do.. and I'm your average chinese (young) guy. =D

Hmm. I have to get myself a Photo ID as well. As for the textbooks. I believe that there aren't that many for Art Fundies if I am correct. But anyways, I will start reading them ahead of time just because I can't wait for Fundies to start. :}

[Red Mimic]

If everyone starts saying "Eh", I am gonna be a whole lot more violent this school year.


Tips that may or may not apply to you, do NOT call a Nova Scotian a "newfie". They may sound similar and come from a similar area but they will be pissed and may sucker mob you. (A newfie is a person from newfoundland if you don't know)

Tim Hortons is some sorta coffee cult that lives to steal your change. Although their coffee is inferior to everything but I still buy it :/.

Sayin something bad about the Toronto Maple Leafs is likely to get you killed at playoff time. Supporting the senators is also not a good idea. That is for this particular area, not sure about Oakville but it is basically Toronto.

Make a note not to hit on girls through the internet as well :P

[JJH]

Can anybody tell me how to access AccessSheridan? Where do I find the Username and Password. I can't remember if I recieved these things.

[kennygeeze]

Ok, it's been a while since I read through this thread.... just introduced myself to a ton of new posts not more than 5 minutes ago. I'll answer some questions below.... if I missed something, just repost or whatever to remind me :P

As a student at sheridan you get either free or almost free access to the gym and I'm 80% sure it is on campus. I know they have some sports facilities on campus... not sure about the actual excerise/weight lifting equipment although I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm not sure whether illustration students get an art kit when they start. A grad I do know basically had to buy all the supplies himself... he was only given a list. The main reason why art fundies students get kits vs. illustration students is because the fundies program is HUGE. there's like... 600 kids that start every september... and if any of you have seen the size of the sheridan store.... well.... 600 kids aren't fitting in there on the first day to purchase art supplies heh...
I'm pretty sure illustration students do not get a duffle bag of art supplies.

When I was in fundies there were no required textbooks you had to buy. They had "recommended" reading and we were given I think 2 packages worth of photocopied hand-outs, but other than that... no textbooks.

Illustration and animation both have required textbooks... I'm not quite sure yet on where to get the final list of what's needed. Even in the course descriptions textbooks are still TBA (to be announced)

Art fundamentals -- Stuff you will use up almost immediately is your drawing conte and newsprint. They didn't include guache in last year's kit... so you might have to buy that. You'd probably have to buy some black mayfair paper, some white mayfair paper....
Sometimes it really depends on the class... one design class might use vastly different supplies compared to the same design class taught by a different teacher. Different teachers have specific preferences on what type of illustration board to buy as well.
The only paint you use in your painting class in art fundamentals is acrylic paint. The stuff they give you in the kit will MOST LIKELY last you until the end of first semester. Maybe you'll have to replace 1 tube because some of the teachers do so many monochramatic paintings... and if you keep using cobalt blue for all of them... you'll run out of that. You might have to replace your liquid matte medium by the semester end as well.... but that's alot of time and you'll probably visit home over christmas or whatever... or have time to order from Curry's.
So I wouldn't necessarily suggest buying a whole ton of stuff before you leave.

One thing I will mention though is.... most of the things sold at the sheridan store are more expensive than purchased at other locations. Some things are even twice as much.... such as markers. You likely won't be touching your markers until second semester though, so don't worry about those.
But don't buy things at the sheridan store unless you can't help it.

Two things you will probably have to keep buying and replacing are #1 18x24 pads of newsprint (used for life-drawing) and #2 drawing crayons (black/brown conte) that you draw on the newsprint with..... Alot of my peers used colored nu pastels though or colored conte'...... also take note that some drawing teachers have SPECIFIC preferences.

Some drawing teachers will ask you to purchase other surfaces to draw on... mine asked us to buy alot of 18 x 24 pads of cartridge paper.... other classes were using paper I never even bought or touched.

So.... therefore it's kind of a guess as to what to buy before you get there. It might turn out your teacher may want a special something.... or maybe they changed the kit completely. So I wouldn't want you guys wasting any money based on my word.

When I moved to oakville I took all the art supplies I had... and besides for the basics such as sketching pencils, a couple blank sketchbooks, various erasers, and some clips..... I didn't use any of it.
If you can find a really really good blade though that can cut card-board cleanly, buy it! You'll be cutting a ton of illustration board to specific sizes.

Depending on your drawing teacher you'll also probably need several different colors of pencil crayons for the homework assignments... maybe. But I'm sure you have those.


As far as supplies go for first year illustration .... I have little to no clue basides for the basics. I know in the painting class you use both watercolors and acrylics first year (pretty sure).... and I know you never use oil paint while at sheridan (besides for water solluable oils) and even that doesn't come until second year or later.
If you already paint, bring you acrylic paints with you. In the fundies kit they had mars black, titanium white, and then double primaries.... so a warm blue, cold blue, warm yellow, cold yellow, etc. 2 of each color. THey also had a huge jug a acrylic jesso in every kit.... and.... a little container of liquid matte medium.
I have no clue whether the profs in illustration would want the same thing... or maybe an entirely different set-up than what was in the kit.

[kennygeeze]

Ohya, kenny, we were just wondering about things like cable/phone etc. Has it been connected all summer and we just continue to divie the cost depending of long distance bills etc, or do we need to hook it all up again? Just need to know to make things easier when we move--hooking up computers etc.

Dividing the chores is a good idea--picking up after ourselves should simply be the first step =) Cooking etc. should probably wait until we can all agree. Shared food bills etc. may become an issue so I'm not entirely sure how that will work.



Hi.
Ok.... a few things that the landlord may have forgotten to mention. The condo itself has no phone... yet. This past year my room-mates and I all had cell phones. One guy didn't and he seemed to survive allright without one.
I'm pretty sure there's landline jacks in the rooms so I'm sure it wouldn't be *that* much trouble getting an actual phone installed in your room or whatever.
My cell phone plan is basically I get a couple hours per month and evenings/weekends are free. Worked well for me. Plus it came with voice mail and whatnot.
An actual phone might even cost more... who knows.

Internet should still be working and connected. Last year it was the guy in the basement... the bill was in his name and basically every once in a while he asked us to 'pay up'.... basically the internet/cable bill is a certain amount and whoever is living there just divies up the cost. So... last year sometimes I was paying 1/4 of the bill.... the last month I was there it was 1/2 since there was only two of us.
It was really disorganized and often the guy in the basement was late paying... so I think the landlord is taking over that this year... or at least she should be.
The whole internet situation might be something that'll have to be sorted out and whatnot, hopefully it won't be too much trouble.
In fact... i might just call her about that today or tomorrow....

As far as the food situation goes... we can of course discuss something. I had a few friends who's room-mates had different plans to deal with food and whatnot.
Basically this past year (not that we would have to work it this way this year or whatever) was everyone had their own food. We divided the cupboards in the kitchen, the fridge space, the freezer space. Each person bought their own food, ate their own food, etc.
So, there'd be 3 different milks in the fridge, 3 different packages of sliced cheese, 4 loafs of bread in the cupboard. Everyone had their own stuff.
Sometimes we'd collaborate on meals and whatnot... during second semester I would provide the food while my room-mate cooked it up to feed both of us.... so I was donating to the cause so-to-speak.
But I guess it's just something we can talk about.

I'm really surprised the landlord didn't say anything about the phone though. That's strange.

[darth massacre]

and I know you never use oil paint while at sheridan (besides for water solluable oils) and even that doesn't come until second year or later.

NO OILS!!! YEEEESSSSS!!!! Man I HAAAATE Oil paints....the smell of the paints, the canvas primer, the linseed oil and the turpentine.....ARGH!!!

Thank you Kenny for all the priceless information.

I guess I'll pack my acryllic set along with the rest of the stuff. Now where did I put my pallete?

----------------That aside-----------------------------

I'll be arriving on the 29th or 30th, it'd be great if I can meet up with some of you guys ASAP so there'll be familiar faces on the first day of school. I'll probably make a pain out of myself by asking a lot of questions. Especially about surviving the cold, coz I come from a tropical island where the temperature rarely drops below 25 celsius.

I've not recieved any news regarding the orientation on the 31st Aug, but as far as I understand, international students have a seperate program on the 7th September.

If you guys are keen to meet up drop me an email here:

jerry@digitalcreme.com

Or just ICQ/MSN me.

ICQ: 13390179
MSN: sabrtoof@hotmail.com

Yeah don't call me Darth when you guys see me, Jerry is good. :dur:

[endregan]

Yeah we should plan a little get together before orientation so its not so weird and new when we get there.

kenny- yeah I dont really need a phone anyway. Its no big deal :). I might call home once in a while but I could probably find a payphone or work something out.

About food. Yeah that sounds good. We should have some stuff that is definitely our own, but if we work something out perhaps like sometimes I could cook if you provided the food. Most meals are for 4 servings anyway! So if we arent sharing then I will have 2 meals and my brother the other two, or we can all have the same dinner. Im sure well work somethin out.

Yeah definitely call and ask about internet and such. I wasn't sure if I will need a hookup to use the cable modem. I have high speed right now so I am not use to the whole cable setup. Just like, I am wondering when I move in if it will be available and I just plug it in.

Geeze I hope I dont have to buy a whole lot of useless textbooks!! :)

Wonder what the materials list will be like

[softdrawer]

Heh thanks for all the info.

I'm going in Animation though so it's most likely going to be different i bet. Like more paper and less paint.

The only thing that bothers me is I didn't get any phone calls or letter sine a while. Like the last thing i got was the receip for my tuitions that i had paid. And that was like in June. :dur:

Maybe it's just my weird program. Or me !?

anyhow, i hope to see you guys around before. xchange numbers at one point and make art meetings hehe.

I was also wondering if there was a swimming pool at Sheridan Campus? or Outside?

[WildSpruceMoose]

kenny: Yeah, I don't know about cellphones, but my bro and I will have to figure something out...
The duffle bag concept sounds good--less worry for me starting off, and sounds like I've used most of the media being passed out--even if only briefly =D We have a couple days before class starts to get the whole food/phone/inet situation cleared up in person =) Personally, I don't know what cable is like these days, and paying for the inet, but not having a phone sounds incredibly backwards. I'm so used to one 40$ fee for high speed inet and phone =P

softdrawer: I just had a phone call and recieved a letter inviting me to the orientation, so things should be coming soon.

Darth(Jerry): Good to hear we can mold you into a Canuck =P
I've only touched on oils and am glad we won't be using them too much. They are a wonderful medium but far too much hassle and way too messy for their results imo.

Haha, yeah surviving the cold here may be difficult all Canadians are born with extra hair to survive sub zero temperatures and we huddle together in our igloos at night with dogs, cats, and each other for warmth.--come on I couldn't resist.

Just get a decent winter jacket and hat and trey not to shower within and hour of heading out and you'll be fine =P Damn you and your tropical island haha.

[kennygeeze]

Endregen

I called the landlord today and asked her about the internet. Apparently everything is all ready to go *crosses* fingers. I guess nothing has really been altered or touched since last year.... the internet worked the day I moved out so it should still... They might even be installing another network port in the dining room area for those of us with lap tops..

In order to hook your computer into the cable internet (assuming your computer is in your bedroom).... I'm not sure if you noticed or not while you were looking at the rooms (I only first noticed after I moved in), but there's a little tiny white box in each bedroom with a network cable connection in it. Basically all you need to do is connect a standard network cable from your computer to the square port in the baseboard and you should be connected to the netwerk.

Basically the network cables from the upstairs go down through the walls into the basement bedroom where they are connected to a router in the laundry room and then to the cable modem in the downstairs bedroom.
By hooking into the router you not only have internet access, but we can also send files back and forth between our computers (sometimes my room-mates would trade music, or sometimes I'd scan stuff for the advertising student that lived down the hall)

I'll probably be moving in september 5th or 6th at the latest.... maybe drop by slightly before that with my heavier stuff.

Should be good.

[kennygeeze]

I haven't recieved anything in the mail either about orientation or whatever. The last thing I got was in ..... June about my tuition payment and portfolio marks.


Hey Kenny~~
Thanks a bunch for answering my questions. They were helpful to me ^^
This is going to be my first time living away from home, so I'm pretty clueless at alot of this stuff. Hopefully everything works out well ^^;;.

btw, how heavy is the workload for art fundamentals? I'm just wondering since I want to work on my own art in some of my freetime (to make prints throughout the year in time to sell for this anime con next May ^^;; ) Are there any stuff that we should buy in advance during back to school sales that we might need (or run out of from that art kit provided by Sheridan)?



That's a tough question actually. It really depends on 2 factors ... time management, and what you want to go onto after art fundamentals.
The work-load for fundamentals isn't that much.... it's significantly more than highschool (in my opinion), but it's manageable for most people. You'd have free time to do your own art, I suppose.

However, if you want to go onto animation or illustration or some other program where there is an extreme emphasis on drawing representationaly well then you have to go to extra life-drawing classes as much as you can manage. There were times where I doubled my hours in the classroom because I was going to so much extra life.... and at that point you have barely any free-time. You have a bit, but you'd probably be so sick of drawing by that point with literally hand cramps that you may not want to work on your anime con stuff.

Core fundamentals isn't that much, but the cool part about it there are SO many optional resources you can take advantage of.... such as portfolio/animation workshops, x life...... peer tutoring (getting a 2nd or 3rd year animation/illustration student to help you get better at specific skills such as life-drawing or painting)

Then there's time management.... I often waited until it was dark outside to bother starting homework sometimes, or I would just procrastinate a whole day away until it was time to go to bed again... so..... if you have good time management you'll probably have quite a bit of free time.

Hopefully that helped.

[softdrawer]

Bah nevermind everyone, i just received my letter telling me about everything. ( I guess Winnipeg is last on the shipping list haha )

[endregan]

awesome. I have a network thing because I am on a router right now, so Ill just make sure to bring that with me :).

Are we still paying for the internet and tv or is the landlord covering that? I am still not sure about how that goes.

Yeah we are moving in Aug 26, so we will have a couple weeks free time with orientation in between to get settled. I am not sure if Byron (our other roomate) is living there or not yet. We recently stopped by to drop off our table and random things, looks like hes moved in but he wasnt there. Maybe just missed him.

College keeps ya busy :)
Laptops? Good thing its not a req for Illustration, I dont think I could afford anything else like that :)

[Nayuki]

Thanks once again for the info Kenny :)

As for myself, I don't have the greatest time management. I tend to procrastinate alot and tend to get sidetracked into doing other things that I don't need to do. But hopefully I'll improve throughout my time at Sheridan (I really want to change my work habits ;___;!)

I've found that highschool has always been really busy for me, espcially this last year has been really hectic for me, including all these volunteering things I did, I remembered spending almost everyday afterschool for a few weeks at a time. It was really tiring and stressful. (But hopefully it'll all be worth it if I can get the Sheridan Student Union Entrance Scholarship, not that I do volunteer work for that purpose though)

However, hopefully everything works out well :) and thanks for all your wonderful information ^^ It's been extremely helpful!

[Hexal]

Maybe we should like plan a conceptart.org get together on like the 28 or 29 since that seems about the time everyones moving in and such. We could all just meet infront of sheridan to get and know every one before orientation and the start of school? :?:

[JJH]

I called about when the timetables will be in accessSheridan, and they told me starting on the 24th. Just thought I'd let you guys know.

[Red Mimic]

Hey Kenny, how much did you pay for your cellphone plan a month roughly?
I don't like cellphones but I think I'll have to get one to make life easier. I have no clue how much they cost.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Things are looking rough as far as working right until moving then unpacking at the townhouse, but no more 5am mornings for me after I'm in Sheridan, yay!

We SHOULD meet on the 29th or something to meet just before orientation--get to know each other a bit. =) Thanks for the helpful information kenny and others. Luckily, I plan procrastination time into my schedule. I found that for an hour of work I'd need atleast 10 minutes within that hour to check the forums or something and have started tossing it in with the maximum time required for assignments =D Creepily efficient, however I'd end up doing 3 hrs worth of hw in like 3 1/2 to 4 because of the procrastination time alotted...acceptable by my standards =)

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to school and meeting all of you.

Have a good one,
Pete

[softdrawer]

Hmmm...

So how's Oakville at this time of the year? ;)

Better than Winterpeg I surely hope so.

:S

[endregan]

well recently, I live about an hour and 45 mins from oakville or so, and it has rained off and on. All summer it has been rain, sun, rain, sun. Pretty strange weather. Felt like fall last week for a couple days too.

Anywho. might want to get prepared for anything...no clue what winter will bel ike

[WildSpruceMoose]

I don't mind the rain much. I work early and its much easier to sleep in the afternoon with a light pitter patter on the house and the clouds blocking the sun :D My dad said that the weather from here to Oakville will change almost insignificantly, however mentioned something about lakes or lack thereof. Said we'd get less snow than we do now. No shoveling =)

[darth massacre]

I don't mind the rain unless its heavy all the time. I pack rain gear daily....it rains here quite often too.

Anyway, I'll arrive in Oakville on the evening of the 29th. So just let me know if you guys are meeting up or something.

[JJH]

Oh one thing came across my mind guys. I am planning to apply for BAA Animation next year after I complete Art Fundamentals. In the portfolio, aside from life drawings and other stuff, I was wondering if the sketchbook is one of the most important things. For OCAD, the sketchbook was treated like one of the most important pieces. So I was wondering if it was the same for this. If anybody has developed a good sketchbook, can you give me some guidance as to what to sketch in one? What I have in mind is to sketch people, places and objects around me and things from memory and just out of my imagination.

[softdrawer]

Oh one thing came across my mind guys. I am planning to apply for BAA Animation next year after I complete Art Fundamentals. In the portfolio, aside from life drawings and other stuff, I was wondering if the sketchbook is one of the most important things. For OCAD, the sketchbook was treated like one of the most important pieces. So I was wondering if it was the same for this. If anybody has developed a good sketchbook, can you give me some guidance as to what to sketch in one? What I have in mind is to sketch people, places and objects around me and things from memory and just out of my imagination.

Well I just graduated from high school and I got into the BAA Animation program. I just made what was asked for the portfolio and sent it. There was life drawings asked in the list as well as some character/cartoon tests typathing and also you could put up some of your personal work.

I actualy did the entire requirement in one night. It's not in all that long or hard. You do your best and what they requested. I think they do consider talent/understanding as one of the main facets but I don't know much more than that. I only got accepted ( and I was surprized since it was one of my last choices and I only applied because someone told me about it ).

I can't say much since i'm a 1st year Stdnt and i have to see by myself what's out there! ;)

Oh well, good luck into all that and perhaps i'll be seeing you around next year into Animation. :P

Edit: Oh, did you mean the PBAAA Animation program? or maybe i'm way off there... :bashful:

[JJH]

Thank you softdrawer for helping me out. Don't worry it's the same program, the 4-year Bachelor of Applied Arts Animation, right?

You did it all in one night? Well I guess it makes sense since they asked for pencil line drawings of hands and stuff, which means no shading right? So I suppose having more confident line strokes instead of furry line strokes, as well as good understanding of the anatomy of a hand and such would make all the difference.

As for life-drawing, I had many life-drawings applying into OCAD and Art Fundies so I am a bit ahead of some people. Plus, in Fundies I'll be life-drawing my life out so I don't think the life-drawing aspect of the portfolio would be something to worry about.

You had to make a storyboard am I correct? Do you just have to know basic camera angles such as: extreme close-up, close-up, medium shot, shoulder shot, wide shot, low angle, high angle? Then the technical aspect of how you drew each frame and the creativity of the story would depend on me.

Could you tell me what kind of drawings you included in the personal pieces where you could select any other art you have done? I would think you would need a few paintings and tonal pencil drawings.

Once again, thank you for the help.

-Jeff C.

[softdrawer]

Thank you softdrawer for helping me out. Don't worry it's the same program, the 4-year Bachelor of Applied Arts Animation, right?

You did it all in one night? Well I guess it makes sense since they asked for pencil line drawings of hands and stuff, which means no shading right? So I suppose having more confident line strokes instead of furry line strokes, as well as good understanding of the anatomy of a hand and such would make all the difference.

As for life-drawing, I had many life-drawings applying into OCAD and Art Fundies so I am a bit ahead of some people. Plus, in Fundies I'll be life-drawing my life out so I don't think the life-drawing aspect of the portfolio would be something to worry about.

You had to make a storyboard am I correct? Do you just have to know basic camera angles such as: extreme close-up, close-up, medium shot, shoulder shot, wide shot, low angle, high angle? Then the technical aspect of how you drew each frame and the creativity of the story would depend on me.

Could you tell me what kind of drawings you included in the personal pieces where you could select any other art you have done? I would think you would need a few paintings and tonal pencil drawings.

Once again, thank you for the help.

-Jeff C.

Well, I can't find the requirement sheet they sent me at that time but here are few things I can recall. ( And again I applied at few places so this is what i recall from the Sheridan BAA and i might be misplacing some )

- They gave you a Character and a very short story line. For me it was a kid who found a small magic box thingy. With this you had to make 4 - 5 scenes where he would find it and then finaly open the thing. But in everyone of these scenes you had to change the expression and also the camera angle. There was like curious then confused, excited and then disgusted. ( something like it) *so this was the animation/storyboard of the portfolio*
A good 20 minutes.

- I think there was also one where you had to draw a realistic hand BEFORE doing an action and AFTER. I made a hand about to grab a towel and after when holding it. With all the shading and bla bla. Took 10 minutes.

- Another one was drawing a character in your room and then drawing the same room but from this charcter view. (which was kinda odd but pretty easy.) Took 15 minutes.

- Then there was the life drawing where they just basicly asked you a few examles. (Like 2 or 3) Since I had few sessions at the time I grabed them and added to the portfolio. If you don't have any just take some nude pictures from the net and that should do the trick. ( even tho they might not accept these hehe :P ) Shouldnt take too long again.Oh yeah and they would accpet underwears at the limit so if you've got an dedicated sister or brother... :bashful:

- Hmmm... then I think you had to make an object before and after being affected by an external force or evironment. I dunno how they explained it but I just drew my pencil and then the same one but melting and being pulled away like a plastic stick er smthing. ( looked pretty cool heh ) Took 10 minutes.

- Finaly you coud put like 5 or 6 presonnal work. I just put a few digital ones and some acrylic. That did the trick. I don't think they requested anything there neither.

So basicly there's quite a bit on rendering acutaly but nothing too heavy. I did all of it in an hour or two. One thing you should remember though is that they absolutely hate mangas or animes and all that junk. They expect you to know what life drawings is and understand the concept. Don't show up work that's been done in the past or copy other known artists.

If you got any other questions... will be happy to answer!

:)

[WildSpruceMoose]

I spent almost 2 weeks of 2 hours a day doing my drawing test and portfolio for illustration and didn't get in--damn, you are fast. Hopefully I'll have a stronger portfolio this year =D

[JJH]

Hahah Wow you ARE pretty fast. How good did you shade though, was it quick shading? Or did you get very dark values out for some contrast.

I really really really really (copy 'really' a thousand times) hate myself for not applying. I actually got the application, but I always had the feeling I wouldn't get in anyways (yea I know it's bad thinking, I changed it now) and thought 2 weeks would be too little time, which wasn't. So yea, I didn't do anything. I got into ocad, york, seneca, and art fundies at sheridan. Perhaps I'll post some life-drawings and paintings up here and you can tell me if I had a chance at all. If you say that I did have a chance I will smack myself on the face 5 times. But it's all good, I'll post some of my pics up soon, just got some stuff to finish up first.

Oh and, I JUST GOT A MAIL FROM MY ROOMATE! (cuz i got into sheridan's residence). Lol, makes me more excited now.

Thanks again softdrawer for your help, gives me a good idea of what to do.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Cool, JJH, your roomie isn't a hippie are they? =P
I got into OCAD as well, mainly because they *love* sketchbooks and I took like 3 with me. I WAS going to quit in my application for illustration too, but thought I'd give it my best go anyway--this year I will try my arse off to get in =D

[softdrawer]

Hahah Wow you ARE pretty fast. How good did you shade though, was it quick shading? Or did you get very dark values out for some contrast.

Well i guess it all depends on how fast you work. I'm praticaly a machine when it comes to drawing believe me. Not that i'm the best, ..just really quick. And I only made it fully rendered for where they asked to. For most people i guess it takes a whole lot more time. My friend applied to and it took him like 2 weeks and he didn't even get in. Although he was kinda lazy at it, he wasn't to bad. I mean it's almost like you give everything you have and then it feels more like a dice roll shot. You're in or not. But again trust me, if you stick to what they asked, do a fine job, you're 90% of getting in that program. If it takes you a month to make a really good looking life drawing well do it up. - I was just saying that for me it didn't take too long since I had already applied to other schools and wasn't looking into Sheridan all that much at first.

By the way, nice one with the residences :teeth: ...i wish hehe.

Bah it's nothing, happy to help you out.

I'm leaving Winnipeg like tomorow morning and it's a fair 2 days of road :rolleyes: . Then i'll get there on saturday and visit the city and pinpoint the good spots for food and etc..

Anyone knows if Sheridan is already opened up to new comers? I wouldn't mind visiting early and get my gym pass. :rendered:

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Edit : I suck at quoting... I really do. :blah:

[Monster Mash]

Hey!

I graduated from Sheridan Illustration in 2001...teaching..doing concept art......yada yada...good luck...fundies is a good move..i learned alot from it!

[WildSpruceMoose]

From what I heard, your student card is your gym pass...sooo don't expect to see it until orientation. You could check the office I suppose.

Thanks for dropping by Monster_Mash.

[::EPIC::]

Does anyone know how early they start giving out parking passes?

[endregan]

Luckily I dont have to worry about parking. You should call and ask or ask at orientation

I got a letter from sheridan just talking about orientation basically, and outling what we should do and can do there.

One more week until my brother and I move in!

JJH- wow quickly done. I guess you did a lot of your portfolio submission previously for other portfolios ?

Anywho it will be nice to meet you guys soon

[Hexal]

Hey i was think for the meet, maybe we should do it on the 30th since darth massacre is getting in on the 29 in the evening and i think im away on the 28 29 at my dads. :blahblah:

[darth massacre]

30th would be great. Just hope I won't get lost while I find my way around. So who's coming?

[WildSpruceMoose]

I should be able to go on the 30th =D The only issue now is finding an affordable bike and getting my student id card and with it, osap etc. I want to do that ASAP =) In other words, me and my bro will most likely be there ;)

[Red Mimic]

No going for me, most likely have to work that day and I already had to ask to get the orientation off.

Oh well, I'll meet people then probably.

[softdrawer]

I just moved in yesterday. There"s another student coming in on the 1st but he"s a second year student. I live about one minute walk from the school heh. I went to see it today and it"s pretty nice. The animation building looks good and niftay. (For some reason there was about one million kids around today, special kids day er smthing.. )

I just found out the drinking age here is 19, good thing my birthday was in June. :teeth:

I have a week to do nothing now, if anyone else feels the same give a shout hah. :P

Later folks.

[JJH]

Nice softdrawer! Hey feel free to explore the surrounding buildings eh! Let us know what kind of restaurants, malls, stores, and stuff there are.

[Hexal]

Wow softdrawer, where do you live?, i live like just south of sheridan its less then 5 mins away.We should definitly get together later in the week maybe, at Sheridan and do some drawing or whatever..
Hey Red Mimic what times do you work from?

My friend who's going into film might also want to come on the 30th.

So say we did it on the monday the 30th. Would we all meet infront of sheridan and what times good for most people?

I live really close so im good anytime really.

And to start a little list of who would come:

Hexal
WildSpruceMoose
endregan
Softdrawer
darth massacre(?)
Red Mimic(?)

I bet i missed some so by all means update the list. :^^;:

[darth massacre]

I'll try to be there. I'll probably get a friend along...he's starting his 1st yr animation this september and is from Singapore too so we both would probably need a lot of guidance from you guys.

I wouldn't actually have a phone or internet since I arrive only the evening before. So I guess it would be best if we can meet somewhere really obvious so I know it will be you guys I'm seeing when I get there.

Like maybe meeting next to a fountain or statue or landmark holding out huge signs saying CONCEPT ART FORUMS, SHERIDAN MEET or something will be really good :p



I've got a military style buzz cut so I shouldn't be too hard to spot. :$

[Moiss]

Hi, guys!

This is my first time posting in the forum. Just want to say hello to all of you. Hope you don't mind.

I think I might be late for this, but I'm going for Art Fundamentals too.

See ya all!!

[JJH]

Hi Moiss, nice to meet you! This year should be fun so I can't wait. Who knows, maybe some of us get put into the same class!

I am not sure if I can meet up with you guys but I'll see.

Well since I also joined in to this thread a bit later than all of you, I kind of want to get to know who you are and where you are from! This will also help us identify if a person in the same class IS from the this thread. If you don't feel like posting this info just ignore this. But I'll start anyways!

Name: Jeffrey Cheung
Age: 17
From: Toronto, Ontario.
Program: Art Fundamentals
Brief description: likes art, bowling, food, sleep, movies. =D

[Red Mimic]

Won't know until later this week when I am working. If it stays true to my schedule I've been having lately, It will be a 12-9 shift on Monday. Could be a day shift on sunday which has me finished at 5-6 but getting the car that night, and monday morning is a problem. It's an hour and a half drive to Sheridan from where I am now, I haven't moved in yet.

[endregan]

alright well I guess the 30th is probably the best day. The day before orientation too . Geez you know how darn busy and crowded it will be :).

All we have to do is set a time and place for monday! Meeting at Sheridan is probably the best idea and then we can go from there or just stay. We should probably bring a sketchbook and stuff to sketch, you know just talk and draw and things like that. Is there a better place for drawing, I am new to the area?

I am moving in on thursday!

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yes, 30th sounds good. I still need a bike-- better get myself into gear on that, 3 days till move. Packing now, see you all then--EH!!!

[Hexal]

Maybe later this week ill take a little bike around and see if theres like a park or something thats close by.

I say monday in the morning around 11:00 at the main entrance? or that s wing building, the one thats getting the front interlocking bircks fixxed.http://www.conceptart.org/forums/images/ca_icons/question.gif

[WildSpruceMoose]

Sure, bike ride sounds good. I'm not familiar enough with the area to agree or disagree with the meet spot yet =P

[JJH]

You know what, I can only come on the 31st, that's the day I am moving in. So I guess I can't meet up with you guys to sketch and stuff. But keep in touch and I'll come along if you have another meeting after that one.

[kennygeeze]

I probably won't be there.

However...

the easiest way to meet up is probably the main entrance of the college. There's a bunch of bus stops just outside of it.... and if you can't find it pretty much everyone in the area would know where it is.

Failing that there's a stream that runs down the middle of the campus....

[endregan]

Yeah lets meet on the 30th outside the main entrance, at around 11am sound good ? Then we could find this stream I havent seen yet :) and see if we could draw there.

Ill seeya when I seeya kenny!

Oh btw I was wondering if we are still paying for internet? Are we all splitting it four ways or is kathy covering that ? We were also thinking of getting a landline for a phone because our parents will have no way to contact us. peter and i and maybe byron could split it or something as I know you already have a cellphone ;).

[JJH]

I've been to the campus several times and I must say, there isn't much to draw from looking at the stream. Perhaps you can pull out a drawing or two of rocks, or the small bridge. I'm sure you guys can try out Starbucks or something, or perhaps in Oakville Place when there are more people there.

Moiss: Hey don't worry man this is a public forum and all, just join in. Design is personally not my thing, so I can't share much info about it. =D

[WildSpruceMoose]

I'll draw all of you, and hang you on my wall =) Sorry, that was creepier than I meant it to be =P

Name: Peter Shepherd
Age: 18
From: Port Perry, Ontario--look the town up some time, great for shops and other tourist attractions.
I like drawing, painting, used to play *a lot* of computer games. I'm a fan of movies, not a HUGE music fan, but I listen to music.

If possible I think we should take some digital pictures so we aren't completely unaware of who is who.

The move is so close I can feel it. One more life drawing class tonight, then last day of work tomorrow and BHAM move day :D

[darth massacre]

Guys guys, I won't have any means of contact when I actually arrive.

No phone, no internet, nothing....so if you guys are okay with it, can we set a time and place (on campus) to meet up on the 30th Aug? I leave on sunday the 29th and it would be great if we can set things up asap :bashful: I need to contact my friend who will arrive on the 27th since there's no way for me to let him know the location of the meet once he leaves this Friday.



Ok if I sound excited, I am.....if I sound impatient.....well heck I am. >:D

[softdrawer]

Hey all, well I know the Nburhood pretty well now. I went to Sheridan twice, worked out in the gym and got to make a few friends already hah. The school is fairly large, specialy my building (Animation) with the glass facade thing. Anyway, it looks wicked. Also went shopping for food and all.

For those who didnt make it here already, there's everything around the school. Food, shops, barber, whatever you need basicly. The people i live with say there's a popular pub very close from sherdian where students get down and relax after classes (like other side of the street) and it might be some nifty spot for a chat session. As for the drawing part, I havn't asked yet but i'm sure there are a few empty rooms around the school where people can do their own stuff during spares or summer. And there's a few places in the school full of sofa's and cool spots with tables.

As for myself, when you see me you'll think i'm a regular guy but most people say i'm actually pretty weird or at least out of the usual. No worries, i aint no psycho but i do have a day dreaming habbit and talk a whole lot, has a weird taste in music and draw a whole lot of surrealism stuff. I'm also French... and a crazy lover when it comes to relations (but that's another thing) even old fashioned at some points. I actualy left my girlfriend in Winnipeg and I already miss her. Ugh.. Gotta move on though, we met like about a month ago so i couldnt change my schedule. I would probably of stayed otherwise. Bah enough of that..

Alexandre Cote
19
Quebec - Winnipeg - Oakville (France a bit at one point)
I like art.. and philosophy.. and socialising... and also my girl. Oh and writing, reading too but not always. Music has it's goods. Odd comic books. I like taking the bus downtown and have conversations with very strange beings. Did i mention art? I moved many times, which makes me a big traveler. I'm always happy, don't know why really, got that from my father. I don't judge people, ever, and i also don't givadamn about being judged. I see things differently, most things actualy. I used to go out clubbing a whole lot, not anymore though and i have to budget now. And i used to do a lot of sport... then again that's another thing i let down hah. That's all i can think of. I don't like descibing myself.

I live at : 2049 Oak Spring Road ( yeah i told yah... a minute from school )

Damn I still got like 6 days of doing nothing much than drawing, walking around and watching movies. :er:

[Red Mimic]

Ian Herring
20
From Alliston which is near Cookstown, which is near the 400, the part that is between Barrie and Newmarket, which is in Ontario.

Odd but niceguy I think I'm seen as. I'd say I'm only social when I have to be. I learned that from my year in Georgian where I knew no one but ended up making a lot of friends. If I do know people already I seem to just settle with that (which i learned how I was when going to highschool). Stand about 5' 9" and I usually wear a grey hat or my short hair. I have a wierd interest in communism even though I don't know much about it. Music can basically be summed up as most of the stuff they play on EDGE 102.1. I sporadically drink and am not a fan of clubs due to their music. Use to play video games a lot (Nintendo all the way) but have stopped lately unless I have some friends who want to play. That's all I feel like saying for now, wanna know more? ASK!

[darth massacre]

I've not met you guys and I already feel old.


Jerry Teo
26 in less than 2 weeks.
From Singapore, which is an overcrowded little tropical island in Southeast Asia.

Served in the army as a medic for 30 months....GO INFANTRY!!! :dur:
Worked as a concept designer for 2 years after that.
Now I'm starting school again after 6 years.
About the same height as Mimic....got a military style cut from my boot camp days.

Not much about me though. I'm not really into music, I just listen to whatever I feel like listening to. I'm into CDs and not MP3s....don't ask me why. I just like to draw a lot.....but I'm getting lazy. If movies were cheaper I'll be watching them more regularly. Loves gaming.....anyone looking for LAN sessions on weekends? Recently picked up photography. Absolutely loves paintball.


Moiss, good to know I won't be freezing my balls off alone when it comes to winter :P

[Moiss]

Moiss, good to know I won't be freezing my balls off alone when it comes to winter :P

Hah....Yeah right..... :D, hope don't crack my balls off.

Anyway, What's it like working as a concept designer? Was it tough? Any storyboardings? cuz I'm kinda new, just fresh from high school, no experience. I was just doing sketching when I was in high school, never done a life drawing before. :(

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I'm moving in to the residence on the 31st, I arrived probably around midnight, Oh well, wish could join you guys at the entrance. But hey, maybe I can join next time, let me know again when you guys are on it again. It's gonna be exciting for me. Nice to meet you all !

[endregan]

yeah heres my intro

Jack
18 years young
Likes music (ALL kinds), movies, fan of communism much like mimic for no reason at all either, obviously drawing ;). I do martial arts and stuff like that.

I am moving tomorrow. I will see whoever shows up on the 30th, say 11am, with a window of however long. IN front of SHeridan! Main entrance :)

Good luck and seeya guys in sheridan :D Oh yeah and I guess we can tell who we are because whoever is there should whip out their sketchbook and draw till people come ;D

[darth massacre]

I'll show up on the 30th at 11am.

Means I gotta leave home at 10am coz I'll be trying to find my way. :nohope: Geez I need a compass. Probably taking more pictures with my camera than actually drawing but I'll bring my sketch tools too :)

Watch out for this 5'9" chinese male with glasses and a Ranger styled buzz cut. That should be me :)





Moiss, we'll talk more as we meet up.

That free rock concert sure seems interesting.

[Hexal]

Ryan Christiani
19
oakville
I like art obviously, My getbox(thats right i said getbox :nohope: ) computer games, and riding my bike.

So lets just say monday at 11 then? be there or be square? If this goes down ill be on my bike, its red black and yellow, not to hard to miss. :wink:

[kennygeeze]

Endregen... as far as your question and the internet are concerned I'm not 90% sure...

However, I know we'll all still be paying for internet and splitting it 4 ways. I think the only thing that's up in the air right now or at least what I haven't found out about yet is who the money goes to.

Last year the bill was in my one room-mates name and we'd just pay him our cut -- because of payment issues the landlord thought about last june putting the bill in her name and we would just pay her ( there were problems last year which is why she thought of it)

Honestly, I think that is the only way to go this year... way pay the landlord for the cable internet.
Essentially I don't think any one person living in the townhouse right now should have the responsibility of paying the actual bill... especially running around and collecting money every month because it's kinda a nuisance.... so hopefully we can work something out with the landlord.

I don't think it would be that much trouble to get a phone installed. I have no idea how to go about it though, so good luck with that.... I guess you'd contact the phone company or get the landlord to... Probably just ask her about it, I guess. :)

Good luck with moving in. Those stairs are quite the challenge for large/heavy objects so a separate "good luck" just for that stage of your journey. :P

I might meet the 3 of you very breifly on sunday as I'm moving some of my stuff into my room that morning-- basically to make it easier if I have to end up completely moving in last minute.. But sunday....I think that's the 29th....

So, yeah... if you hear someone come in that'll probably be me. The landlord changed the locks after I moved out and I was given a key that will "work", but I have not tried it yet, so I guess it should be interesting.

There's a grocery store called... dominion in a large plaza a little further up 8th line from our town house... that's probably the closest one and easiest to get to.
THere's also a loblaws on Trafalger much further from sheridan (in relation to the townhouse) and a rabba's right across the street from sheridan (EXPENSIVE)
So, if you need food or whatever that should help...

[endregan]

yeah were gonna check out dominion. IM going to have to get myself familiar with the area and how to get places/.


Ill see you sunday kenny!

Last time i post before I move into Oakville :O

[WildSpruceMoose]

Alright, we moved in, not any huge hitches andf my back is in ok shape as of now but we will see when I wake up tomorrow(look who is feeling old now). I can make it to the meet date no problem =) Good to see other people already moved in/talking about it. I like all music too, however much like mimic, prefer edge. I guess I'll see you guys soon.

P.S. bro, mimic, I can tell you *a lot* about communism =D western civ

[softdrawer]

Ok for the 30th at main entrance. You cant miss it.

As for food, Dominion is awesome. About 5 / 10 minutes walk from school.
Last time i went i spent like 43$ and i had plenty. 8 burgers 6 hotdogs 2 nice meat tourtieres, lots of juice / ham for sandwishes , few vegies and more.

Anyway, if you buy smart it gets pretty cheap.

I'm in the art room right now. They got internet and there's a library not too far from the school where they got internet also, it's free to register.

[endregan]

Yeah! Finally moved in. It is a nice area. The dominion was fairly cheap though I know it isn't the most competitive it is still pretty decent if you look carefully :).

You are in the art room already? Awesome.

So I guess I will be seeing you guys on the 30th :) at 11am then? Dont forget your sketchbooks :p

[endregan]

Got to check my schedule online! Man there are some bright and early classes :D

8 am classes to as late as 4pm "basic design" classes. Sounds like I will be a busy bee for the entire first semester with extra life drawing as well.

Anyone else see their schedule yet?

[JJH]

Lol LAN SESSIONS! YES! I WANT TO PLAY COUNTER-STRIKE AND HEADSHOT ALL OF U!!

Oh and yea I got my timetable on the 24th, lol. HEY i know. I'll post my timetable here and if ANY of you have ANY of the same classes please let me know. THANKs.


MONDAY

DESN 15039 (P02)
3D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room AS12 TRAFALGAR
8:00AM - 11:00AM
William Ottemiller

DESN 12719 (P02)
2D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room A202 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Kristin Mesley

TUESDAY

CULT 17360 (P04)
Art Fundamentals-Ideas/Images
Lecture
Oakville Room B124 TRAFALGAR
8:00AM - 11:00AM
Mike Walsh

ARTS 14636 (P02)
Painting 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room A112 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Barbara Wagner

WEDNESDAY

DESN 19667 (P02)
Imaging Systems 1
Laboratory
Oakville Room A117 TRAFALGAR
12:00PM - 3:00PM
Jacqueline Patrick

THURSDAY

ARTS 10702 (P02)
Drawing 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room A107 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Brenda McCrank

And yes, I am sorry I cannot come on 30th, I move in on the 31st, Already an early move-in though.
Oh and also, HOLY CRAP, Am I like the youngest out of ALL of u? I am 17.

OH and, if you people ever want some Oriental Food, there's a Chinese Restaurant RIGHT across from Sheridan, and also 3 Japanese Restaurants around there somewhere. <3

[::EPIC::]

Im all section P08 cept for Tues, im P05.

Went in today and got my ID and parking paid for, looks like anyone who drives will have a nice hike to class, ah well if im not working i need the exercise anyways. Not sure if I'll be seeing you guys at the 30th for sketching, i'll be pulling my hair out in the line for early OSAP. But you never know:)

I think someone was asking about bike racks out front? Well i notice like 10 and a pad for motor bikes as well, right by the arts and crafts building.

If you guys want a bit more info there is a school paper which has a bunch of useful info on starting in sheridan, i picked mine up at the SCAET building.

Question is the ideas and images course a general elective? or is it compulsary?

[WildSpruceMoose]

Ok, all moved in, know where everything is but the shoppers, but I'm looking for that tomorrow. Now there is the matter of osap and other financial services--oh well, jump the hurdle when I get to it.

Well I live 10-15ish min from school *on bike* (should really time myself for real though) but those 8am classes (I have 2) are really going to be a thorn in my side. Then again why am I complaining? I saw the illustration schedules and just about dropped my tongue to the floor.

I'm still in for the 30th. I'm going to try and settle a little bit before I have all the "paperwork" in order, but afterorientation I'm going to be down at the financial services office so fast...

Good night then.

[::EPIC::]

JJH, whenever your free to play some CS come on Clan Wicked's Main Server and play a few rounds with me and the boys on some custom maps. Need Cheating Death to play tho, look for a player named DeathDealer on there. We shall see if you can get me :)

[Moiss]

I got my schedule also, guess I have the only one who got late classes. :rolleyes:

MONDAY=
ARTS 10702 (P07)
Drawing 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room A108 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Instructors: Todd Tremeer

DESN 19667 (P07)
Imaging Systems 1
Laboratory
Oakville Room A117 TRAFALGAR
2:00PM - 5:00PM
Instructors: Douglas Donald

TUESDAY=
ARTS 14636 (P07)
Painting 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room A110 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Instructors: Eric Brittan

DESN 12719 (P07)
2D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room A202 TRAFALGAR
2:00PM - 5:00PM
Instructors: Michael McCarthy

WEDNESDAY=
CULT 17360 (P02)
Art Fundamentals-Ideas/Images
Lecture
Oakville Room B124 TRAFALGAR
12:00PM - 3:00PM
Instructors: Jack Urowitz

THURSDAY=
No Schedule

FRIDAY=
DESN 15039 (P07)
3D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
Laboratory
Oakville Room AS12 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Instructors: William Ottemiller


Mostly I'm in section P07 except for CULT, P02. What does a section represent anyway? anyone know? :rolleyes:

Oh and anyone know also how to get an extra life drawing classes there?, cuz I want that class so bad, really want to improve my life drawing skills.

Do you guys know Angel Art Academy? www.angelartacademy.com. Awesome stuff there. Check it out if you have some time. Wish could draw like that. :bow:

JJH: You play Warcraft?

[JJH]

:O
wow that angelartacademy place has some nice stuff!
AND, no sorry, I do not play WC. I also refuse to start it or any other new game out there because I will get addicted which will interfere with my school work. Counter-strike is still fun for me, plus, it's not addicting anymore for me, so if any of you play it, awesome.

As for TIMETABLES, sadly, none of you have yet to tell me you are in the same class!! :\

EPIC: Hey I will check out that server for sure! Be afraid, VERY afraid.. MuAHHAHAHAAHAA.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Lucky you on the late classes :D Wish I could have pulled out a schedule like that. I used to play warcraft3, but quit because it distracted me too much. Whenever I'd play just *one* game it would turn into 5 hours of theorizing new strategies and then another 5 hours of playing. I don't know though, if I have time I might start to schedule some wc3 on weekends. Moiss, you wouldn't happen to be someone well known/in a well known clan, would you?

[endregan]

Fair warning Kenny, their is no air conditioner upstairs, only one in the living room. Doesnt reach all the way upstairs. Bring a fan, I should have though of it :)

Who is coming monday?

[kennygeeze]

For the question pretaining to whether or not 'ideas and images' in art fundamentals is compulsory or not..... it was last year. Last year they started off the year with "yeah, you guys can choose one elective. Pick 1 out of these 5 choices"
Then we got to school and everyone had ideas and images on their schedule. essentially they did away with all the other electives for "budget reasons" (rolls eyes) and everyone got ideas and images as the elective no one chose.
You have to take it and pass if you want your certificate at the end-- and in theory apply to illustration, animation, etc.
Ideas and images isn't that bad of a course. It's like an informal arts, psychology, poetry, english lit, world affairs, history course. You do alot of drawing for it and some of the assignments are quite alot of fun.... I looked forward to them quite a bit when all my other classes were filled with much more boring things.

Mois, the section represents your 'class'. Unless you have time-table conflicts you'll be seeing the exact same people in your drawing class, your painting class, your 2d class, your 3d class, etc. Ideas and images is much larger group due to the fact in can be held in a lecture hall.
AF1 is one class of about 30 people, AF2 is as well, etc..... I believe it goes all the way up to around 20. last year it was 18.

Since you guys in fundies posted your schedules I was reading over them and noticed that some of the teachers you have -- I had last year.

Michal McCarthy and Eric Britain are pretty tough teachers, and their harsh criticism sometimes really gets to students who can't paint/use guache right away. A few friends of mine had their work called 'firewood' and they were pretty upset about that, but they got better and some of them put more time into practicing.
Pay attention to eric's due dates even if he is lenient again this year... if you don't follow his schedule the stuff will just pile up and you'll be @#$#'d with a portfolio of unfinished paintings.
No matter what teacher you get for 2D always meet the deadlines and ALWAYS do every single step they ask. 30 compositional drawings might seem like a dumb idea, but just buckle down and do them anyways... especially first semester. Presentation is extremely important so if on your final piece your illustration board isn't cut properly and your white border is all smudgy with graphite you can be dropped a grade or more (on the assignment.)

Jack Urowits is a really good lecture teacher. The stuff he talks about is usually the more interesting stuff than regular teachers and his lecture humor is often really cynical (which I like)
Last year he encouraged us to draw while he was talking and our assignment every class was to make a sketch at least somewhat related to one of the themes he talked about in his lecture. At the end of 4 weeks you'd take the sketch and make some form of final piece out of it.... either painting, final drawing, sculpture, whatever you want.

Mike Walsh the other lecture teacher (who any of you who have jack will likely get second semester and vice versa) is also a pretty interesting guy. He gives take-home assignments but they aren't too difficult to do (at least compared to things you'll be doing in your other classes. Don't talk during his class unless you want 80 pairs of beady eyes staring at you.

Bill Otamiller -- if you want input on something he'll give you alot. He's a tough marker especially at the start. Just remember you lose marks for how much tape you use on your reed project, and black is always gray if you can see it. Real black should look like a dark hole (just in case if he wants you to make a sculpture that is primarily black and blue like he did to my class)
And if he subtly passes around a class list with the question at the top such as 'favourite animal?' or 'favourite celebrity?' just know full well that whatever you answer you'll probably be sculpting it out of something awkward ;)

And that's all the teachers on your list I recognize. I probably met Brenda M. at some point, but I don't exactly remember what kind of teacher she is.

EXTRA LIFE DRAWING-- you don't have to sign up for. It just starts usually by the second or third week of classes and you're free to go to it if you have that time off. Sometimes classes in art fundies will often overlap with extra life-drawing on certain days so you may not be able to go 5 days a week.
They'll talk about it alot in your mandatory drawing class-- probably post a schedule for it on the main drawing studio door when times get finalized.

Sometimes the room gets filled so get there quickly (especially right at the start of the year and around portfolio times) um... sometimes there's barely any people... there's been more than a few times where it's just me and the model.

Illustration life-drawing last year started significantly later in the evening than art fundamentals.

Endregen, I got my schedule as well. Probably post mine a bit later.

[kennygeeze]

Fair warning Kenny, their is no air conditioner upstairs, only one in the living room. Doesnt reach all the way upstairs. Bring a fan, I should have though of it

Hehehe, I'll keep that in mind. Yeah, every year I get told there is a second air conditioner going in the upstairs and then there never is.... typical.
From what I remember about my room-mates complaining about the heat last year I don't think I get it as bad as you guys. The sun never touches my room (in true hermit style).... the only time I can really see it from my room is at the crack of dawn where this huge orange sphere screams into my window and wakes me up.

So is everyone mooved in except me? The guy in the basement ... Byron (I think)... he's moved in?

And I guess the internet is working nice and dandy?

Sometimes the connection went dead last year.... usually if that happens what will work is unplugging the power supply to the CABLE MODEM and then plugging it back in 30 seconds later. It reboots and usually everything is cool.... usually. Sometimes it's just cogeco being a jerk.

When I first moved in I didn't know I could go into the downstasirs bedroom so I spent the week prior to starting college with no internet and absolutely no way of contacting anyone. Wouldn't want you guys to go through the same thing.

Question: how's the front door working? last year I had to ram the door with my shoulder to get it open or closed and the lock was really sticky. I remember one time two of us had to reef on the bloody thing to even get out. I assume that got fixed or at least is working for you? It seemed to fix itself about halfway through fall but I guess it's because the wood expands when it's hot or something... and it could be that way now because it's the end of summer.

I think one of you asked where shoppers was... from what I remember it's on Trafalger closer to the shopping mall. It's a really big shoppers too.... never been inside though.
If you're just looking for a drug store though... I know there's one in the dominion plaza... also one I walk by on the way to sheridan. I can show you where that one is too.............................. which reminds me..... have you guys found your way to the school yet?

I can still easily show you when I move in, but I was just wondering. :}

[endregan]

Hey kenny

Yeah it does get really hott. I saw an aircondition on the floor, the larger one but I believe it is broken so there is only the one now.

The door is still stuck and you have to ram it but its alright I guess. There is now a deadbolt but it doesnt work so I dont even know about that.

Illustration will keep us busy. Thats good the extra life drawing is later in the night...

Yeah the internet is up and working. byron payed the setup fee so we'll all have to chip in and find out what it costs monthly. He moved in yesterday and we went bike riding. We found sheridan and the shortcut, though its longer on bikes because you can't bike ride up those stairs.

In the lease it says there are 3 air conditioners :O. I am still deciding whether getting a cellphone or landline would be better. What kind of plan do you have? Pay as you go or prepaid plans seem to be the best where you only have a certain amount of minutes. The only thing is longdistance and all the other fees like 7 dollars just to have it on top of your monthly bill.

Heres my schedule, unless it gets changed around

Monday

P06 Lecture Composition & Rhetoric Cls#: 2096
12:00PM - 2:00PM
Agar,Anita M.

2:00PM - 3:00PM
Agar,Anita M.

Tuesday

P04 Laboratory Conceptual Process 1 Cls#: 2364
8:00AM - 11:00AM
Dallas,Paul
Botelho,Clemente

Wednesday

P02 Laboratory Drawing & Painting 1 Cls#: 2354
8:00AM 10:00AM
Read,Lawrence P.

P02 Laboratory Computer Studies 1 Cls#: 2366
11:00AM - 2:00PM
Ridgway,Rhonda

Thursday

P02 Laboratory Life Drawing 1 Cls#: 2358
9:00AM - 12:00PM
Hughes,Stanley W

P02 Laboratory Basic Design 1 Cls#: 2350
1:00PM - 4:00PM
TBA

Friday

P02 Laboratory Drawing & Painting 1 Cls#: 2354
8:00AM 10:00AM
Taylor,Jack P.
Sherman,Bruce W.

11:00AM 1:00PM
Sherman,Bruce W.
Sherman,James

10:00AM 11:00AM
Instructor: TBA

1:00PM 2:00PM
Instructor: TBA

8:00AM 10:00AM
Read,Lawrence P.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Hey kenny,

I *am* looking forward to this year, but I'm not used to homework art assignments every night, I'd better get used to it fast huh? When I was assigned homework in high school, whatever the class, I was fairly good about getting it done on time and now I'll be doing homework for something that I love to do, so things should be fine. Just a wee bit nervous =P

It is hot up here, but I'm Canadian, I will adapt! Byron is in and everything. 40$$ installation fee he paid and now the monthly rate, so we should reimberse him for installation and he is going to collect from us monthly.

You still planning on dropping some stuff off tomorrow? So orientation in on the 31st, and then the rest of the week is orientation or do we have it off? And school doesn't actually start until the 7th of sept, right? I'll double check the letters anyway to be sure, but just thought I'd ask.

We went down to sheridan with Byron, as Jack said and this afternoon we found a shoppers at the strip mall up the street. Time us--5min from townhouse to the strip mall. The short cut looks good *on foot*. Hopefully we get a mild winter and I can keep riding to school.

Here is my schedule for now, it may be subject to change though, right?

DESN 19667
P05
Laboratory
Imaging Systems 1
11:00AM
2:00PM
Mon
Instructor: Donald,Douglas John

CULT 17360
P05
Lecture
Art Fundamentals-Ideas/Images
2:00PM
5:00PM
Tues
Instructor: Walsh,Mike


DESN 12719
P05
Laboratory
2D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
8:00AM
11:00AM
Tues
Instructor: Parker,John F.

ARTS 10702
P05
Laboratory
Drawing 1 - Art Fundamentals
2:00PM
5:00PM
Thurs
Instructor: McCrank,Brenda


ARTS 14636
P05
Laboratory
Painting 1 - Art Fundamentals
11:00AM
2:00PM
Thurs
Instructor: Peets,Bernadette


DESN 15039
P05
Laboratory
3D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
8:00AM
11:00AM
Fri
Instructor: Diruscio,Virginia

Fixed schedule up a bit in edit.

[softdrawer]

What the hell. I tried to go on acessSheridan to see my schedule but hey how the hell do I get my username and password ??!? ...never mentioned anything on the letter. :dur:

Guess ill have to go to school to have the info er smthing.

[kennygeeze]

softdrawer, it should be the same user-name and password for the online application services.... that is if you applied online.

[Red Mimic]

Whoo hoo!

Unless I'm reading this wrong, I have mondays off. Semester of long weekends! I have Tuesday and Thursday start at 11 and end at 5.
Friday and Wedsneday both start at 8 and drag on to 3,4 respectivley.
Very happy with my schedule since I am planning to go home every other weekend to see my friends around here.

In case you wanna know, I play warcraft 3 too. Mix of ladder play and a select few of the custom games. Its one of the few games I can't seem to stop playing and I try to get a good game the odd night when I am bored. Smash Bros and Fzero GX are also some favourites if anyone is interested in playing those one day.

Tuesday is looming closer......

[kennygeeze]

The door is still stuck and you have to ram it but its alright I guess. There is now a deadbolt but it doesnt work so I dont even know about that.

In that case we'll probably have to get on the landlord's case all about that. The door becomes a problem sometimes especially last year when someone would try to come in at 2 in the morning, try to push open the door (and at that point you can't even tell whether it's unlocked) the fiddling wakes up the guy in the basement and then everyone's pissed. :S

Are you talking about the extra deadbolt the landlord had installed on the inside of the door? I'm not even sure what she's talking about with that or why it was put there. As long as the door can be locked when everyone leaves with the regular lock, it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm not sure how much I paid for my cellphone plan as that's one of the things my parents are helping me with. But basically I have a certain amount of minutes a month... I'm pretty sure it's two hours because I recall using it up on one phone call, but I get free evenings and weekends and that is extremely convienient. Since I'm at school all day it's unlikely I'll be talking to anyone on the phone for any length of time until the evening anyways.

I'll have to go find the lease, but if it says 3 air conditioners then looks like she owes us that.

[kennygeeze]

Red mimic... you're going into illustration right (correct me if I'm wrong)?

[WildSpruceMoose]

I'd be up for the occasional 2s at of ladder, maybe 3s =P I play for fun ie: stupid strategies though.

[kennygeeze]

WildSpruceMoose,

I should be there to drop stuff on tomorrow (sunday) between 10am and 11am. Somewhere around there. I have no clue how long I'll stay.

You don't have to go to orientation, although it is suggested that you do. After orientation you're still on summer holidays until labor day 'cause school starts the next day :dur: And yeah.... school doesn't start until the 7th.

I'm nervous about school as well. You should be fine though... fundamentals isn't that intense to start off with, although it picks up speed pretty quickly.

I also played warcraft 3 an awful lot. I'm not even going to bring it this year because of the temptation. As much as I'd like to play with you guys I often procrastinated on homwork last year just to get a few games in every night.... never again :^^;: 'sides, I just managed to quit that addictioin last june.
I'm trying not to bring any computer games with me this time. :x

Oh, and one more thing..... I'm trying to get your names right. Byron is in the basement... wildspucemoose is peter... and endregen I don't think I ever learned your name. :^^;:

[softdrawer]

Sorry fellas, i gave up on games a long time ago. I still have tetris and Solitaire on my computer, but i doubt we can hook up some lan tournament things with these dinosaurs.

Man i can't even remeber than account thing from OSAC or something like that. They'll send me back my password and all.

Damn so that means after the orientation we gotta wait for an extra week ?!? ...is it just me or i want to start right now. :^^:

Oh well, gotta see you guys on monday at 11am.

My name is alex so you remember. ;)

[endregan]

Yeah I gave up on video games last year. Well it did wonders I tell you. If I hadn't began to seriously study art I wouldn't be in illustration right now. Video games slow you down!

See you sunday kenny. OH and it just rained so thats a relief from all that heat. Lets hope it keeps raining :D.

That cellphone plan sounds good. Free evenings and weekends, does that mean even long distance is free? I would probably only use the cellphone for calling my family and friends and such and a lot of them are long distance.

Oh yeah and I am Jack btw ;). The lighter haired twin haha.

[kennygeeze]

You'd have to pay for long distance (at least the plan I am on)

There's some weird phone plan I heard about a few months back.... basically it gives you a local number of where-ever you're from and calls to that location no matter where you are are free. At least that's what I understood from it.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Ohyeah man, I haven't played a game of wc3 for a week or so. Blizzard released patch 1.17 with 2 new heros, so I logged about 50 games over the course of a week, but after that I quit almost entirely. I won't be taking the frozen throne cd out of the box its in (I can't even remember if I pakced it) any time soon, and am going to stay focused on art and some fine cuisine =D

I'll see you all later then.

[Red Mimic]

Yep, Illustration for me. I have a bad feeling about this, now you're gonna tell me something that will take away my monday! I won't give it up I without a fight.

[endregan]

You get a day off? Aren't you a lucky boy ;)

[Moiss]

Lucky you on the late classes :D Wish I could have pulled out a schedule like that. I used to play warcraft3, but quit because it distracted me too much.

WildSpruceMoose: Yeah you right. Playing Warcraft too much will make you forget everything. I used to play it a lot, but since I'm going to Fundies now, I managed to do it just for fun.
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Kennygeeze: Thanks a lot for the information.

Michal McCarthy and Eric Britain are pretty tough teachers, and their harsh criticism sometimes really gets to students who can't paint/use guache right away.

What's fundies for then? :rolleyes:. Man :[ , Why do I always get the hard things...........I never used a gouache before, never see it, never know what it's like, that's why i'm going there.......Now that really scares me a lot..........Tuesdays are gonna be tough for me. McCarthy and Britain in a row, 11 till 5 :dead:. (First time studying overseas. Nervous.)

Does the class really start on the 7th, I though I saw on my schedule on Monday the 6th?

Anyway, my name is Maurice. Good to know you, Keenygeeze.
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Let me know if you guys have some class matched with mine. :rendered:

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I'm moving in this Tuesday. Seeing any of you guys there will be great!.....Maybe we can take some life drawings classes on weekends?
(not so sure though)

See y all there!

[WildSpruceMoose]

We should *try* and get some meeting togther on orientation day for those who miss the one on the 30th =)

I might play the occasional game, like I said, but if I *ever* find myself planning my homework, classes, meal times and in general life around a video game ever again I will toss it. Video games should be worked arpimd school, not the other way around.

I haven't ever used gouache either, but I'm hoping (and from what I've seen) it is similar to acrylics, which I've used extensively, so lets hope I don't have problems there. It would seem I don't have either of those teachers anyway.

See some of you tomorrow, one of you today, and the rest on orientation day, although we may not know who we are O.O

[JJH]

We should *try* and get some meeting togther on orientation day for those who miss the one on the 30th =)

I might play the occasional game, like I said, but if I *ever* find myself planning my homework, classes, meal times and in general life around a video game ever again I will toss it. Video games should be worked arpimd school, not the other way around.

I haven't ever used gouache either, but I'm hoping (and from what I've seen) it is similar to acrylics, which I've used extensively, so lets hope I don't have problems there. It would seem I don't have either of those teachers anyway.

See some of you tomorrow, one of you today, and the rest on orientation day, although we may not know who we are O.O

A meeting on the orientation day would be cool, although I'd have to wait until after the sessions AND move-in. After the sessions I will be moving stuff into my residence room and also getting PhotoID, library pass, locker maybe, and perhaps check out my classrooms. If you guys happen to arrange something on this day, then perhaps I will join, if not, we can always hook up in life drawing classes.

I haven't used gouche before either! I only used acrylics really. I heard that gouche is like watercolour but more opacity or something? So you can layer more? Meh! I don't know, but we'll find out.

Go here
http://jjh.deviantart.com/
There's a pic of me there. Yea well if any of you see me on Orientation, perhaps you can give me a shout. =p

[WildSpruceMoose]

Ohyeah, I need photo id, locker, library too and then there is the procedures to do in the financial offices. OSAP, scholarships, tuitions fees etc. With all of the things everyone has to do it might be easier to forgoe any formal meeting on orientation so as to avoid confusion.

[endregan]

Whose comin tomorrow ?!

[kennygeeze]

Pffft, I just checked by here and realized that the latest message I typed never got posted. Ah well. I'll type it up some other time.

[kennygeeze]

Hey, endregen and wildsprucemoose... it was really cool meeting you guys today. Sorry I was in kinda a rush, didn't have much time to talk. Anyways, have a good week off before school starts.

It should be a good year.

[endregan]

Hey Kenny.

Yeah it was great meeting you, how was the ride ? Good thing it rained, cooled things down a bit.

I will try and get a few sketches in this week as well as check things out at orientation. I'll tell you if anything about illustration comes up.

See you in a week

[::EPIC::]

Well it looks like im not in any classes your all taking :\

Correct me if im wrong lol

Monday - Off

Tuesday
CULT 17360 (P05 )
Ideas/Images
2-5PM

Wed
Arts 14636 (P08 )
Painting 1
12-3PM

Arts 10702 (P08 )
Drawing 1
3-6PM

Thurs
Desn 12719 (P08 )
2D Design
11-2PM

Friday
Desn 19667 (P08 )
Imaging Systems 1
8-11am

Desn 15039 (P08 )
3D Design 1
11-2PM

Im happy with it, since i have long weekends and i only have to get up early for friday classes, and even at that i finish at 2pm so it's easy to head out on the town, er plan for extra life drawing!

Somthing that is kinda burning in my mind Kennygeeze, is what really is necessary for the start of school, so far i've kept it light just a 1/2" binder and some lined paper in cases i need to write anything down. What did you find you needed for school and couldn't go without? I'm keeping in mind that there might be an art kit for fundies, so im hoping this is correct...

[endregan]

Hey epic. Yeah fundies is a huge program, there must be a ton of different classes! Thats good that you have a day off though

Oh yeah kenny I remembered something I had to ask, when is recycling? This friday we put out the garbage and recycling but they didnt take the recycling. Is it every other week?

[WildSpruceMoose]

EPIC: I know I'm bringing sketchbook and a binder full of lined paper, unless they say otherwise at the orientation. So refresh my memory, you are in for tomorrow?

kenny: it was nice meeting you too. Too bad we couldn't talk longer, but we'll have plenty of time for that later =D You have a good week too.

EDIT: This is a list of people I think are coming, that I can remember/could find in the thread. Correct me if I'm wrong. We might want to do a "headcount" incase some people don't come on time--we don't want to wait if nobody else is coming and we don't want to leave anybody behind =D

-me
-endregan
-hexal
-softdrawer
-darth
-darth's friend
-JJH (undecided?)
-EPIC

[::EPIC::]

At present ill be there on the 30th but im going to be on a tight timeline, my work is starting up another project monday morning, due to the fact i need every scrap of money i can get my hands on for the year, i'll be in and out monday just for OSAP purposes. Sorry hope you guys understand...

[JJH]

Hey, sorry count me out of that list there, I can't come.

EPIC: Hey! Haha.. I go to your Clan Wicked Server a lot now and I haven't seen u yet? Do you play at a certain time? My name is jjh.

[Hexal]

Hey kenny,

DESN 19667
P05
Laboratory
Imaging Systems 1
11:00AM
2:00PM
Mon
Instructor: Donald,Douglas John

CULT 17360
P05
Lecture
Art Fundamentals-Ideas/Images
2:00PM
5:00PM
Tues
Instructor: Walsh,Mike


DESN 12719
P05
Laboratory
2D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
8:00AM
11:00AM
Tues
Instructor: Parker,John F.

ARTS 10702
P05
Laboratory
Drawing 1 - Art Fundamentals
2:00PM
5:00PM
Thurs
Instructor: McCrank,Brenda


ARTS 14636
P05
Laboratory
Painting 1 - Art Fundamentals
11:00AM
2:00PM
Thurs
Instructor: Peets,Bernadette


DESN 15039
P05
Laboratory
3D Design 1 - Art Fundamentals
8:00AM
11:00AM
Fri
Instructor: Diruscio,Virginia




WOW, I think, We have the exact same classes together, i cant really get my list like your with out spending the time to cut and paster everything, but i looked mine over and im in all the classes there and at the same time,, and if the P05 number is like the class number i have that too. :teeth:, that would be cool if we did have the same classes.

Hope to see you guys tomorrow, i guess the easiest way to find people would be what?, I know im going on my bike, its the red black and yellow one once again. Maybe ill try and get there early. I dont know.

[JJH]

Dang. None of you are in my classes.

Does anybody know if fundies comes with a Kit? If so, where and when can I get it?

[endregan]

Our first concept art gettogether :o.
It was awesome meeting you guys today.

That dictionary idea will keep me going when I am out of ideas, thanks alex.

We did a lot of collab sketches with ridiculous crazy things going on. Hope to see em soon online!

Maybe we can do something weekly like friday nights or something just to sketch and hangout. Doesn't have to be every friday but it would be good to relax after a long week. What do you guys think?

seeya at orientation

[::EPIC::]

went in for OSAP wow anyone else wonder for 30 min looking for R122? its not even on the map at main entrance lol....

papers weren't even in after a 50 person wait, the madness continues...

ill be in for orinentation tommorow for sessions A and F and maybe some free lunch, yum! :teeth:

[kennygeeze]

Hey Kenny.

Yeah it was great meeting you, how was the ride ? Good thing it rained, cooled things down a bit.

I will try and get a few sketches in this week as well as check things out at orientation. I'll tell you if anything about illustration comes up.

See you in a week
.

The ride was allright. We were late mainly because when we finally got to oakville is was absolutely pouring, decided we didn't want to unlaod things in the pouring rain and stopped for something to eat to see if it would let-up a bit. It kinda did.

Awesome thanks. There are still some things I'm in the dark about illustration... like when the final lists for textbooks go up (since the current list is full of TBA and out-of-date books)

Somthing that is kinda burning in my mind Kennygeeze, is what really is necessary for the start of school, so far i've kept it light just a 1/2" binder and some lined paper in cases i need to write anything down. What did you find you needed for school and couldn't go without? I'm keeping in mind that there might be an art kit for fundies, so im hoping this is correct...

You get an art kit for art fundamentals. You should be able to pick it up from the bookstore at any time when it's open... I think you have to go around to the back of it, but there should be signs and whatnot directing you to where you get it.

You should be prepared allright.... usually just buy stuff as you need it, and if you find out about something ahead of time try to find it for cheaper than what it is at the sheridan store.

Oh yeah kenny I remembered something I had to ask, when is recycling? This friday we put out the garbage and recycling but they didnt take the recycling. Is it every other week?

Recycling alternates every week, so I guess by default that would make recycling garbage day this coming friday. Sometimes the garbage sits out all day before they come and pick it up though... first semester they rarely came in the morning. Sometimes during the winter and its harsher weather they didn't come until saturday.

kenny: it was nice meeting you too. Too bad we couldn't talk longer, but we'll have plenty of time for that later =D You have a good week too.

Definitely. you too.

Does anybody know if fundies comes with a Kit? If so, where and when can I get it?

Yes. Booksttore when it's open. Should be available any time after orientation (as per last year).... if you go to the bookstore they might send you to some other location to get it, but there should be signs and whatnot around for it.

[JJH]

Yay, orientation was fun! Met up with old friends! I unloaded stuff in my room and all! WEEE!

[endregan]

Yeah orientation was fun. The halls were like traffic jams though :O! It was a nice sunny day out though.

Kenny, all you need for the first week/first class is not bad. They mostly said for life drawing just conte, newsprint and clips to be prepared your first class to draw right away. Drawing and painting you might want to bring some pencils etc just in case but Im pretty sure once classes start the instructors said they would go more into detail. They gave out a list for drawing and it just said three coloured pencils light medium dark and drawing paper, 18x24 sheets of prefered texture (manilla, cartridge newsprint). I am guessing we do life drawing or a lot of drawing in drawing class so we need the big pads of paper ?

For the lectures they just said a binder with paper and a pen is all you need. I guess we will find out the rest :). The materials for art courses are deadly expensive!

It would have been cool if we got kits like the fundies students so that could get us started off, but I guess we will find out. There is a loomis and toles art store nearby I might try and see how far it is and get a few things. Is that where you usually go kenny ? Or is there a cheaper place around. That is probably the closest.

The faculty is pretty cool and easy going. The life drawing instructor is really oldschool and I bet hes amazing. This is going to be great, looking forward to it.

Thats it for now :D

[JJH]

Muahah I got a kit since I'm in fundies, WOW man, I WAS SO HAPPY when I saw all the supplies! CRAZY!

Oh and, there's like 2 different discount coupons for art shops like Currys' and, the other one. You can find these coupons in the Student Handbook we got today at the Orientation.

[Red Mimic]

Showed up, wandered around, got a burger, got an ID, got lost looking for an invisible room, and then went to the info section. Wow the illustration group is small even though that was about half probably of the 105 (?) people who are going. I was looming over everyone from the top row :P All by myself with 2 strangers.

[softdrawer]

HAh ! I lost all of you guys after the welcome session haha. Man I just went straight for the ID and got a new access sheridan. Printed my time table then got a locker. Got a burger and then met a few people. at like 11:00 i was done with everything. I just left heh.

Where do you see what type of books and gear you need to buy anyway?

ANIM 12190 (P04)
Layout & Storyboarding 1
Lecture
Oakville Room B125 TRAFALGAR
9:00AM - 10:00AM
Instructors: David Donar

ANIM 21975 (P16)
Digital Methodologies:Th/Prac
Laboratory
SCAET Building Room S142 TRAFALGAR
10:00AM - 12:00PM

ANIM 15107 (P09)
Animation and Design 1
Laboratory
Oakville Room C129 TRAFALGAR
10:00AM - 12:00PM
Instructors: Vivien Ludlow

ARTS 19015 (P04)
Life Drawing 1
Lecture
Oakville Room C139 TRAFALGAR
9:00AM - 10:00AM
Instructors: Richard Pottruff

ANIM 12190 (P09)
Layout and Storyboarding 1
Laboratory
Oakville Room AA18 TRAFALGAR
11:00AM - 1:00PM
Instructors: Timothy McCormack

HIST 18653GD (P04)
Art - Social/Cultural Context
Lecture
Oakville Room G404 TRAFALGAR
2:00PM - 4:00PM
Instructors: Mary Carroll

COMM 17889GD (P10)
Composition & Rhetoric
Lecture
Oakville Room E203 TRAFALGAR
2:00PM - 3:00PM
Instructors: Susan Hackett

ANIM 15107 (P04)
Animation & Design 1
Lecture
Oakville Room G304 TRAFALGAR
4:00PM - 6:00PM
Instructors: Michel Hannan

I think there might be a little more than that... i'm still confused. :dur:

So damn now we gotta wait for the 7th to start.

Maybe we could make meeting #2 during this week with more people ??

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yeah, orientation was fun and informative! Free lunches, can't pass them up--EVER! Yeah, we lost ya alex, just kinda wandered off? haha

My art instructor was talking about 3 hour classes for 3 weeks for one pose. ( hour poses--never came even close to that so far... I'm looking forward to the year a bit more though, pretty much every prof. I met/toured with was easy-going and generally nice/cool.

The art supplies were nice to get, my bro is really obsessed with the fact he didn't get any and jealously went through my stuff. I'm going to give the list a check over and make sure he didn't steal anything =P I thought I saw you JJH...but wasn't sure and then you were gone! ninja =D

We should get some more "drah'in jams" set up, the one on Monday was fun.

[endregan]

yeah man it was crazaaaay to day :O. I just checked online and my schedule has already changed and like shifted so that I have tuesday off somehow... :O

haha alex yeah sheridan is huge. Nice course load. Keeping busy I see :) I went to some of those half hour sessions then ate with jerry and his friend and petey then went to the academic thing for illustration. I finally got my photo id as well.

I will be at the school again tomorrow, too busy to do too much today and you have to wait forever.

When do you guys want to meet again? Thursday, Friday? I am up for it. Yeah we should get more people to come. We know you are out there, come sketch eh

hey mimic i was the guy in the white shirt and shorts with jerry (darth massacre) probably a couple rows down in front of ya. There werent all 105 students there but there was a decent size for orientation.

jjh- yeah I know i was looking through my brothers kit today. I was impressed. They make us buy all our crap :).

So yeah post when you think is a good time to meet and we'll have another sketch meeting

[kennygeeze]

Kenny, all you need for the first week/first class is not bad. They mostly said for life drawing just conte, newsprint and clips to be prepared your first class to draw right away. Drawing and painting you might want to bring some pencils etc just in case but Im pretty sure once classes start the instructors said they would go more into detail. They gave out a list for drawing and it just said three coloured pencils light medium dark and drawing paper, 18x24 sheets of prefered texture (manilla, cartridge newsprint). I am guessing we do life drawing or a lot of drawing in drawing class so we need the big pads of paper ?
?

Hey, thanks for finding that out for me, man. Appreciate it.
Yeah, alot of those supplies seem quite firmiliar from fundies... And yup... we do our life-drawing on 18 x 24 paper... sometimes larger.

Any info on the textbooks we have to purchase? If not I'll just assume we have to attend the first class first I guess.

It would have been cool if we got kits like the fundies students so that could get us started off, but I guess we will find out. There is a loomis and toles art store nearby I might try and see how far it is and get a few things. Is that where you usually go kenny ? Or is there a cheaper place around. That is probably the closest

I think I've been to the loomis store once.... It's probably reachable by bus... definitely not by walking though. Next time I'm in oakville I'll figure out where it is. Something tells me if you're going from oakville to toronto it's on the way... or at least that's what i remember.

Honestly though I just ordered most of my stuff online from curry's. www.currys.com their prices are pretty good and next to nothing for shipping depending on how much you spend on your purchase.
Usually takes a couple of weeks at least from when I order it to get my stuff though.

[endregan]

I dont know how far it would be on bike but probably not that bad. I think if I just find Upper middle and go up it until the 9th line, then I could find it. I am not sure the prices there. Is curry's cheaper? Here is a yahoo map of where it is http://ca.maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=3YI0fup_0Tp6671LdvhgcYD7BbSVmdZqUAM LJQ--&csz=Oakville%2CON+L6H6G6&country=ca&cat=

I have never ordered online. I dont even have a credit card yet. I should look into that. Definitely worth looking into.

[Hexal]

Your currys is a little bit of a bike, only cause ive been driveing around for awhile here, its do able for sure, but might want to think about the fact that you will have large rolls of paper and stuff. The loomis is down HWY5 going east I bet there are many buses going that way. If you guys get a time i might be able to come again. I have a lot of house painting to do still so. :\

[softdrawer]

Man.. you guys are all over that cheapest whatso is and all.. when i don't even know what to buy in the first place.

am i just retarded or i just don't catch on what's happening?

..gotta go eat.

( by the way. Im down for any day of the week for another meet up. Just gotta gather up everyone)

edit: oh except for friday night, you guys know the plan. :tihi: <3

[endregan]

alright cool. who is in for thursday? that would be tomorrow.


ryan
alex
me
petey

who else? I dont know if jerry has internet yet and I dont know if his friend does either.

Actually Alex I dont know what the plan is for friday? hahah you going out ?

ryan- how far is it by bike to get to currys, or is loomis the same price? I will have to check it out. Tell me if you are up for a bike ride anytime and you can show me the ropes.

[WildSpruceMoose]

It was nice meeting you all at the meet and orientation!

I'm up for another meet tomorrow...then again I'll follow my bro one way or another :devil:

Orientation was confusing and all that, but OSAP applications were even mnore confusing and I think I only have one step left to do.(hand in form with new contact information/change it on my online profiles)

I can't wait to start school now, but to ease the few worries I do have I'd like to look around and find all of my classes, or at least Tuesday's from the bike stand =D

Catcha later.

[Hexal]

Ive never biked to either but ive gone to loomis many times, its but the Best Buy i wouldnt bike there. Curry i know is not as far but still quite a bike, ive never actualy seen it but looking at your map i know the general distance.

What time on thursday would you say?

Alex: lol, nice :wink:

[endregan]

do you think friday afternoon would be good? Or thursday like 1 pm.

Depends, who can all come ? Speak up :D

[JJH]

WildSpruceMoose: You saw me? I wore a dark blue t-shirt (Gas), and I have some streaks of blonde in my hair. I don't even know how any of you guys look so I wouldn't notice any of you.

ART MEETING?: Well I am moving in on the 4th, which is a Saturday, so, yea that's all I can say. My roomate is going to 1st-year BAA Animation so I'll ask if he wants to tag along. BTW, where will you guys go to sketch? Hopefully not a zoo because I will probably look like Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer by the end of the day.

[endregan]

Yeah the weekend would probably be better, more people.

Nah we dont go to the zoo. Last time we met at Sheridan and drew at Sheridan. I am not sure what areas are open in Sheridan on Saturday or Sunday?

Saturday night or sunday sounds good then?

[JJH]

Ok. Sat or Sun. We'll see..

What will be be sketching? People who are nearby?

[endregan]

Oh anything and everything you want. just bring some stuff to sketch and paper. Out of your head drawing or you could draw us drawing if you wanted. how about saturday at 7 pm? I hope the school is open. If not I guess we could find a place.

[softdrawer]

Emm.. Alright for Saturday. Sunday is sleeping day.

How about 1:00 PM Saturday at entrance. Then we can headup to that place of last time, or another. I don't really care, i'd draw anywhere. And illl try to bring a Dictio. :P

Today i have to go shopping a bit. New glasses, hair cut perhaps.. food and more.

I'm still waiting for someone to post the place we can have a list of the books/material to buy.. I still don't know. :shrug: :dead: ( might as well ask at the school i guess )

edit: oh shit.. 7pm ?? ..thats kinda late mate. I eat at that time. Why not during the day ? :bashful:

[endregan]

1pm is good too haha

I guess the school is closed later on anyway

Yeah i should get a haircut sometime. Maybe Ill let the shag grow hahaha

I posted this in the Ontario local artist group too, see if more people close by may come. You never know

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We know there are more people around. If you can make it, come to our next meet:

Saturday Sept. 4 at 1 p.m.
Sheridan College, Oakville
Meet outside of Main Entrance

Bring sketchbooks and pencils and whatever, ready to draw

[Hexal]

Saturday is no good for me so i wont be there this time.

[Moiss]

AT LAST................ I'm in Sheridan. I'm in room E200 now. (I think it's the comp. lab).

Cool!! you guys had orientation already? mine's on Sept. 7.( for international students)

I was wondering if I can meet up with you guys. I kinda new here in Sheridan. It's HUGE.........I lost often. :P .Big difference for me.

JJH, you're in the residence, right? me too, just wandering maybe we can know each other.

Endregan: Are you planning to make a routine meeting? Since we are all have different schedules why don't try on every weekends? (I don't know, just suggesting...)

Endregan, you have said about Dominion Plaza, right? (or maybe Kennygeeze....I'm sure one of you guys...:P ) Could you tell me where? Is it around here? need a little help here to fill in my residence room.....got to buy lots of goods and stuff. Thanks....
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Anyway, I need to buy a new sketchbook, anyone know where to buy it? Sheridan's bookstore? Is it true the price is higher in the bookstore? or maybe I can get it in other place?

Well, see you guys soon. I'm wearing a backpack with a red SPF logo on it, kind of peach color and red zipper, sometimes wearing a green South Park hat, thought you guys might wanna give a shot..... What about you guys? I can't even notice one of you....:P

Oh, I can't make it again this saturday :( probably I'm going with my aunt to downtown Toronto. I will be looking forward to another meeting. :)

Hope we all can get along soon!

[JJH]

Moiss: Hey man, you're in residence? Well that's cool. What program are you taking?

As for the SATurday meeting, it's at 1 right? How long do we usually sketch for?

[Moiss]

JJH: I'm taking Art Fundamentals, too bad we have different schedules.......

I'm in room 322. incase if we all want to get along.
It's gonna take a while for me to adapt to the residence and the environment. I'm a newbie here.....

[endregan]

Hey guys. Yeah the more the merrier. Bring friends if you want eh

Yup Saturday at 1 oclock outside the main entrance.

We can sketch for however long. If you need to go somewhere just leave early or whatever. Usually it goes for a couple hours but theres no set time.

IM definitely eating lunch before we meet though so Im not on an empty stomach :D

[JJH]

Moiss: That's cool. Perhaps we can meet first on SAT at 1?

I'm bringing my roomate, he's going to 1st year animation as well. After that, I'll see how long I will stay because I have to go back in town for a family event. Then I'll officially move-in again on SUN morning.

[Moiss]

I don't know if I can make it on Saturday...I'll probably be away till Sunday, cuz I have to, you know, buy things that I need back in the residence, probably Laptop or PC......so I can keep in touch with all of you. Any recommendation?

Maybe if you guys were having the third meeting, I would try to be there......cuz first time in Sheridan, I was like, you know, have no friends, don't know how to get around, something like that.......I hope all you guys are the one I can get along with.......

[endregan]

Hey jjh where were ya ?!

It was just my brother and Alex today eh. Oh well next meet should be bigger when school starts and all that.

What is a good day to have a meet, maybe once a week kind of thing ?

[JJH]

I was 10 minutes late. I went to the main entrance but nobody was there. I hung around there for a few minutes and went back to my room. I came back to check again later but still no sign? SOrry! I believe it is my fault. If you want to arrange something for tomorrow (Sunday), I might be able to come. Perhaps you can give me a pic of how you look?

http://jjh.deviantart.com

that's how I look.

Sorry again for not being able to find you guys. Oh btw, do you guys have MSN? :perv:

[endregan]

Hey we were there for like 20 mins eh. Maybe your watch is a bit slow haha. Its okay dont worry about it, it happens. We ended up drawing in the animation building. Are you sure you went to the main entrance? The one that says main entrance and has rocks kinda garden leading up to the doors?

I dunno about tomorrow but next week is definitely lookin good

my msn is johnshepder

[WildSpruceMoose]

thepiper21@hotmail.com BUT if you add me, please message me and tell me who you are or I won't know who you are =P

Sorry, we must have missed you. Well my bro, Alex, and I had some nice little drawing fun =D I recieved a souvenir, a portrait of my beautiful visage =P Tomorrow...hmmm I'm not too sure, but we should certainly set something up in the next couple weeks.(If you have time.)

EDIT: Does anyone know where a department store is in relation to the school? I want to pick up that spiderman posable guy, I've seen a couple of posts on =D This thing: spiderman (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26396&highlight=spiderman+toy)

[JJH]

OHhh!! Wait. So is the main entrance the building on the right? I was in the middle building.

Next week should be ok. I'll see though, because I will have to organize my scheduale and daily routines. I am suppose to go home every weekend actually, so we'll see.

I'll add you two tmr (Sun), because I am not at my dorm right now, and the internet is not up until tmr, which is (Sun).

[endregan]

going home every weekend eh! Dont get homesick hehe ;)

Yeah well dont feel you have to go home every weekend !

I was thinking maybe you went to the other one. that building is the animation section entrance. haha oh well, next time eh

What do you guys think is a good night to have meets? Probably the weekend is best because were all gonna be really busy with classes and stuff.

[JJH]

Well I myself can't tell you what day is good to meet yet. I would like to finish the first week of classes before I say what day is best. This is because I would like to get a feel of how much work I have and how much time I need. However, I DO have Friday's off. But we'll see, that may be the day I finish up all my homework, which will make weekends the relax-days. We'll see we'll see. :}

[Moiss]

I agree with JJH...:)

Anyway, Does anyone know if Monday starts a class? or is it on Tuesday? cuz I'm a bit confused with the schedules? Anyone know? Is Monday a labour day, so its' off?

Thanks.

[softdrawer]

I'm not sure Moiss, i believe we start tuesday and monday's off.

Hey guys what was that Forum with people on the animation course from Sheridan again? One of you brothers told me but i can't recall. :[

[Red Mimic]

Labour day is always no school I believe.

[endregan]

Monday is a holiday! Starts tuesday.

Hey alex is Jack. I told you about this site: www.litetable.com ;)

I guess we'll figure out next week when is a good day for meeting !

[Moiss]

Thanks, guys..:)

[endregan]

How was everyones first day? I start tomrrow, lucky me.

:)

[::EPIC::]

My day went well, kind of a shock too. I mean heck we were asked to doodle in class and present...what's up with that?! 2-5 with (Jack U. from Ideas and Images) He's a cool guy and all, but he got really into the lecture right off the bat with how the world has programed us all into being consuming robots bent on ruining the world. Which i found humerous, but i guess time will tell. Some teachers just wear a topic to class to make the point and they are a different person under that, other's....well the are exactly what they preach.

Only thing that sucks hard is doing class presentations each week and 2 major ones in 15 week stint. But what can ya do?

How was everyones elses Tuesday? And how many plan on lugging that huge art kit around campus all day LOL...

[WildSpruceMoose]

Epic, are you in my class? I was in the 2-5 with Jack Uorwitz too... Me and Ryan were there. Did you present? Wait a second, were you in 2d design in the morning too? Wierd.

I liked Ideas and Images, drawing while a teacher talks is like high school =D 2d design was alright, the teacher was cool, no work until next week, can't wait to see the type of stuff we do =)

[Hexal]

I really like the Images and Idead class, Jack look like hell be fun. I must say i didnt mind the lecture right off and how he was jumping all over the palce.

Whats your name? what were you wearing?

Im looking forward to painting and drawing on thursday.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yes! Naked people all for me to draw and paint =D Can't wait. I was keeping my eye out for a giant guy with red hair, don't remember one in Ideas and Images, but then again I wasn't looking behind me and I *was* in the second row =)

[JJH]

Yea first day was cool.

I had Ideas and Images and Painting1.

I was not the same Ideas and Images as you guys though because I didn not have to stand up and present my sketch. In Painting1, Bobbi Wagnar talked forever and when you're sitting on a wooden stool for hours you kind of get ass-pain :$ .

We got our first Painting assignment. Making three paintings of a still-life composition. I am just waiting for my easel to arrive from home and then I will start painiting away =p. Planning to do Kitchen items.

I have Imaging Systems tommorow at 11 or something, and I will be off for the day to start my Painting1 hw.

[WildSpruceMoose]

Is the painting assignment due next week then? Hmmm, diffeent teachers means a lot of different quirks to each class eh?

[JJH]

My painting assignment is due on the 8th Week (says on sheet). So I believe that is plenty of time hehe.

[softdrawer]

Hi fellas,

I saw a few of you yesterday but it was barely just a glance.

My days are just plain long, huge classes, lots of stuff to remember but i love it that way. Keeps me busy. Im looking forward to the life drawing free classes after school but i heard they were starting only next week.

Im at the library and im hungry as hell but my other class starts in like half an hour from 4 to 6 heh. busy days..

I already started my journal ( i dunno if you guys need to do that but..) and i filled out like 10 pages already.. going wild. I also have to buy a million small things for my animation class and a friken 20gig portable hard drive at like 200$. Not counting all the paper ill have to buy. Luckily i already have a wacom tablet (which is required). I feel bad for other in my class, theyll have to add up another 200 er smthin.

Nothing much else than that, i have to go grossery shoppin but i cant pull the mile walk to dirty Dominion and back lazyness is starting to kick in. :wink:

K i gotta bouk it.

Al

[JJH]

Hi fellas,

I saw a few of you yesterday but it was barely just a glance.

My days are just plain long, huge classes, lots of stuff to remember but i love it that way. Keeps me busy. Im looking forward to the life drawing free classes after school but i heard they were starting only next week.

Im at the library and im hungry as hell but my other class starts in like half an hour from 4 to 6 heh. busy days..

I already started my journal ( i dunno if you guys need to do that but..) and i filled out like 10 pages already.. going wild. I also have to buy a million small things for my animation class and a friken 20gig portable hard drive at like 200$. Not counting all the paper ill have to buy. Luckily i already have a wacom tablet (which is required). I feel bad for other in my class, theyll have to add up another 200 er smthin.

Nothing much else than that, i have to go grossery shoppin but i cant pull the mile walk to dirty Dominion and back lazyness is starting to kick in. :wink:

K i gotta bouk it.

Al


Hey softdrawer, great to hear you're doing fine! =D
My roommate is in animation too, he told be about the journal. I plan on starting a new sketchbook/journal anyways so I was wondering if you were told about a specific sketchbook-size to do this in.

Well, best of luck in the program.

-Jeff

[endregan]

Hey alex. I dont have a journal yet. Seems like you are kept super busy. In computer studies it is suggested the conveinence of the portable harddrive but ill probably just end up using a cd rw or usb key... cheaper and i really dont need a whole drive yet :). I may look into later though

Today was my first day. Not bad. Had drawing system in the morning, went over perspective 1-3point intro, shadow intro etc, figured out what I need to buy...so early I woke up at 6:45 and barely got any sleep last night. You know the feeling... ugh

I had an hour to waste time, got my access card for the labs, met up with jerry (d massacre) and moiss. Oh yeah and I never got your name moiss :)? Good meeting you

Then I went to computer studies... pretty awesome class. The macs are so nice, I want my own, but obviously, in time haha. First assignment starts next week...

Maybe near the end of the week we can discuss a good day for the next meet

[::EPIC::]

Epic, are you in my class? I was in the 2-5 with Jack Uorwitz too... Me and Ryan were there. Did you present? Wait a second, were you in 2d design in the morning too? Wierd.

I liked Ideas and Images, drawing while a teacher talks is like high school =D 2d design was alright, the teacher was cool, no work until next week, can't wait to see the type of stuff we do =)

Just to make sure, this was a class on tuesday...um ya there was alot of people there. I was second row on the far right, i didn't present to the class. I put up 2 works on the board though mostly people did just one. I was near a goth/freak girl who had multi-coloured hair in a ponytail standing up, she was in the front right row lol.

-Hexal I'm Dave Webber, if it rings any bells lol...prolly not, no worries. 6'4 big build, red hair with a goatee, north face red backpack.

[WildSpruceMoose]

I'll look for you tomorrow in Painting class at 11am =) I sure as hell noticed the girl with that crazy hair. Maybe I should do something like that? =P Ryan and I both presented. I was the guy talking about fightclub with BF Skinner running someone's lobe through. Ryan was robot/tree man =) See ya tomorrow.

[darth massacre]

I'm still trying to recover from 2 straight days of 8am classes. Lucky for me tomorrow starts at 11am. Then its back to 8am on Friday....sigh....

I've already got my 80GB portable HDD as well as x3 pieces of 256mb storage media that I interchange with my PDA and Digital Camera so I'm covered. No problems there....I might be going back home to SG next april after the winter semester ends (depending on budget) and if that's the case you guys should gimme a shopping list. Hardware in Singapore is MUCH MUCH cheaper than over here. My eyes popped out countless times during my 2 visits to Futureshop....



Anyway Moiss was suggesting another meetup just today. Just wondering if you guys are ok with it and when. And errr..what's with CS...no one plays Ghost Recon or Ravenshield? :teeth:


Was also discussing stuff with Jack just now over MSN....errrr...do we want to try ordering stuff from Curry's or Loomis and have them sent to us? I mean, most of us don't own a car and the nearest Loomis isn't exactly that accessible unless you drive. So its either we try and pull in the supplies together or suffer the bookstore prices (last resort situation). I'm open to suggestions. But lets try and act fast....need stuff for next week already!!!