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Ryn
February 26th, 2010, 10:31 PM
REDiceT, I'd say submit the whole sketchbook. Or take out ~20 pages you think work the best.

yuvi
February 27th, 2010, 03:19 AM
Hi! I am scheduled for March 6 for the portfolio assessment but my friend and as some one mentioned here said theirs is on march 1....
am i tripping out that the date is different?
Has the date changed and its not showing the correct date on my student access?

ha ha. just want to double check here. Thank you in advance.

REDiceT
February 27th, 2010, 09:34 AM
Hi! I am scheduled for March 6 for the portfolio assessment but my friend and as some one mentioned here said theirs is on march 1....
am i tripping out that the date is different?
Has the date changed and its not showing the correct date on my student access?

ha ha. just want to double check here. Thank you in advance.

There was an evaluation day on March 6th???

Well as far as I know Yuvi, there were about 4 dates you could choose from to bring your portfolio on.

Those were March 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

That was when I applied for my evaluation day though. It could have changed.

yuvi
February 27th, 2010, 10:52 AM
There was an evaluation day on March 6th???

Well as far as I know Yuvi, there were about 4 dates you could choose from to bring your portfolio on.

Those were March 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

That was when I applied for my evaluation day though. It could have changed.

Whhhaat... ok, i really panicking now. ha This is what it says currently on my event registration for illust on access sheridan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/BurstDream/NewCanvas-2.jpg

march 6, 2010 it said. They gave me two choices, March 5 and March 6. No other date. Does it vary of when you applied for the course? I applied mine pretty early.

any explanation? Thank you in advance.

friedikins
February 27th, 2010, 11:21 AM
Whhhaat... ok, i really panicking now. ha This is what it says currently on my event registration for illust on access sheridan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/BurstDream/NewCanvas-2.jpg

march 6, 2010 it said. They gave me two choices, March 5 and March 6. No other date. Does it vary of when you applied for the course? I applied mine pretty early.

any explanation? Thank you in advance.

I'm pretty sure that March 5th and 6th is scheduled for Illustration program only. March 1st until 4th (or 3rd, don't remember) is scheduled for the Animation portfolio only :).

REDiceT
February 27th, 2010, 11:28 AM
I'm pretty sure that March 5th and 6th is scheduled for Illustration program only. March 1st until 4th (or 3rd, don't remember) is scheduled for the Animation portfolio only :).

Oh yeah... that would make sense lol! xD

friedikins
February 27th, 2010, 11:29 AM
Oh yeah... that would make sense lol! xD

Yeah, hahaa. I applied to both programs, so I'm sure with that :)

laurabaura
March 5th, 2010, 09:38 AM
yeah. march 1-4 was for Animation ( I dropped mine off yesterday :D ) and today (the 5th) and tomorrow (the 6th) are for Illustration applications.

Now we all wait.

amarryth
March 5th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Good luck, kids!

While you wait... DRAW! :D

Visona
March 6th, 2010, 10:31 AM
whew! Just dropped my animation portfolio on the 3rd, I finished just the day before now I'm pretty much waiting anxiously ever since for my results. I am applying straight out of highschool, so this is my first try, and the fact that i'll be going against more experienced people doesn't make me relaxed one bit *bites nails* Btw, out of curiosity how long did you guys spent on your portfolios?

laurabaura
March 6th, 2010, 03:50 PM
whew! Just dropped my animation portfolio on the 3rd, I finished just the day before now I'm pretty much waiting anxiously ever since for my results. I am applying straight out of highschool, so this is my first try, and the fact that i'll be going against more experienced people doesn't make me relaxed one bit *bites nails* Btw, out of curiosity how long did you guys spent on your portfolios?

hmm. for me it's hard to give an exact time. I work full time, so I was basically working on it for a month after work. The last 2 weeks got more steady, doing it all evening on most nights. And the last week was every night from 4pm until 1am. up at 5am to go to my real job, get home and draw, repeat.

Thankfully I got 6 hours of sleep before handing it in on the 4th, other kids there had finished theirs *on* the train to sheridan.

I wouldn't be too worried though being out of high school. I read somewhere that about 25% of the students they take in, end up being straight out of high schools. And if you don't get in, don't worry, take the art fundamentals course. It looks like a person could learn alot there and be able to advance into the animation program after completing it and learning the neccessary components :P I'll be taking it if I dont' get in. And I'm turning 25.

friedikins
March 6th, 2010, 05:48 PM
I start doodling my character around January...but didn't do anything much. I officially started on February. And finished just a day before it's due. Lol. So yeah...not a good example there...

pleasance
March 6th, 2010, 07:32 PM
I noticed two of the courses included as part of the Art Fundamentals curriculum are available to take as continuing education courses (i.e. part-time)... these are Arts 10702 and Arts 14636.

Anyone if I could take these and have them go towards the Arts fundamentals program?

waidot
March 6th, 2010, 08:26 PM
I am so nervous now. Who went to the illustration portfolio session today? I'm happy about the Adobe Suite subscription thing!

laurabaura
March 6th, 2010, 11:06 PM
I am so nervous now. Who went to the illustration portfolio session today? I'm happy about the Adobe Suite subscription thing!

Same here! So much anticipation :S

I applied to the Animation program, not illustration however. But I made my peace with the potential of not getting in. 600 portfolios were submitted for the 120 animation slots. So... yikes!

My back up is art fundies. If I don't get into Animation, it will be because obviously I'm missing something in my foundational materials that I need. (here's hoping!)

laurabaura
March 6th, 2010, 11:09 PM
I noticed two of the courses included as part of the Art Fundamentals curriculum are available to take as continuing education courses (i.e. part-time)... these are Arts 10702 and Arts 14636.

Anyone if I could take these and have them go towards the Arts fundamentals program?

from my understanding, the Art Fundamentals course is basically a portfolio building program. It's a 1 year certificate program. I know it is also apparantly offered over the summer, aswell in winter terms.

I would *imagine* that you could break it down accross several semesters if you desired to, but the real intent of the program - I believe - is to get your portfolio ready for review for some of the other programs that Sheridan has to offer.

Best thing to do would be to contact the school's admissions through their website I'd imagine.

dt.nguyen
March 7th, 2010, 12:04 AM
I just dropped my portfolio in today as well for illustration. I'm so nervous and anxious! Does anyone know what they will be doing for the next few weeks since they have already assessed our portfolios?

Look at our transcripts AND our portfolio assessment marks? Compare? And why do they keep our drawing tests? I'm so nervous, I think asking random questions helps me calm down a bit.

Maybe. Anyone care to answer though? :)

waidot
March 7th, 2010, 12:33 AM
I just dropped my portfolio in today as well for illustration. I'm so nervous and anxious! Does anyone know what they will be doing for the next few weeks since they have already assessed our portfolios?

Look at our transcripts AND our portfolio assessment marks? Compare? And why do they keep our drawing tests? I'm so nervous, I think asking random questions helps me calm down a bit.

Maybe. Anyone care to answer though? :)

I'm going to guess they have our drawing tests for review later on (such as when people have tied scores, and have to compare once again).

I talked to this girl from fundies and her work was a lot better than mine, so I'm sad now >_>

waidot
March 7th, 2010, 12:36 AM
Same here! So much anticipation :S

I applied to the Animation program, not illustration however. But I made my peace with the potential of not getting in. 600 portfolios were submitted for the 120 animation slots. So... yikes!

My back up is art fundies. If I don't get into Animation, it will be because obviously I'm missing something in my foundational materials that I need. (here's hoping!)

Yeah, fundies is my back up, too, and I'm pretty sure I'll have to go into it since my portfolio isn't very strong.

And to any who are/were at Sheridan,
is it true they have a live model from 6-9PM from Monday to Thurs?

laurabaura
March 7th, 2010, 12:39 AM
as I applied to Animation, I don't know anything about the drawing test.

But I saw that there was a room with a label for nude models sitting every week.

Also, keep your chin up! Just because someone who is finished fundies has a strong portfolio doesn't mean you won't get in :) Worst case scenario, you take art fundies and conquor the day next year! :D but stay positive :D

friedikins
March 7th, 2010, 01:15 AM
And to any who are/were at Sheridan,
is it true they have a live model from 6-9PM from Monday to Thurs?

Yeah, it's called extra life drawing and basically we can just come in there and draw, there'd be no teachers during that time.

Kb-Kaho
March 7th, 2010, 01:24 AM
oh, the teachers in my class told me there was 1200 portfolios for animation though?? last year was 900. 8B. and like 600 for illustration.

I spent around 25hours on mine...finished the last peice sunday night and handed it in on the 1st 8D.

RyerOrdStar
March 7th, 2010, 02:25 AM
And to any who are/were at Sheridan,
is it true they have a live model from 6-9PM from Monday to Thurs?

Yes, and Fridays from 3-6 and Saturdays from 1-4.

Rosered
March 7th, 2010, 01:59 PM
And to any who are/were at Sheridan,
is it true they have a live model from 6-9PM from Monday to Thurs?

There are four different extra life drawing sessions. Animation only, Illustration only, Art fundies only, and then an open one for all. They all take place every night during the week except Sundays.

pleasance
March 7th, 2010, 02:02 PM
Thanks for answering my earlier question. I have two more questions now..

How does the Art fundamentals program rate in comparison to other similar programs available at other colleges in the Toronto area? I know Seneca and George Brown both offer similar type programs.

Also, I just came across the Spring Show 2009 page of Student Galleries from the Academy of Art located here:

http://media.academyart.edu/springshow2009/fnd.html

Everything looks really phenomenal! Is this the same level of work expected from students graduating from the Sheridan Art Fundamentals program as well?

laurabaura
March 7th, 2010, 03:43 PM
oh, the teachers in my class told me there was 1200 portfolios for animation though?? last year was 900. 8B. and like 600 for illustration.

I spent around 25hours on mine...finished the last peice sunday night and handed it in on the 1st 8D.


During the information session on the 4th, they told us that 900 students payed the fee to submit a portfolio, but only 600 portfolios actually were turned in for Animation this year.

laurabaura
March 7th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Thanks for answering my earlier question. I have two more questions now..

How does the Art fundamentals program rate in comparison to other similar programs available at other colleges in the Toronto area? I know Seneca and George Brown both offer similar type programs.

Also, I just came across the Spring Show 2009 page of Student Galleries from the Academy of Art located here:

http://media.academyart.edu/springshow2009/fnd.html

Everything looks really phenomenal! Is this the same level of work expected from students graduating from the Sheridan Art Fundamentals program as well?

i would imagine it's similar. The ultimate thing to remember, is that any sort of schooling's success is dependant on the effort put in by the student. Because Sheridan's Art Fundamental's program has 500 students every year, I'm sure you could find student's work that doesn't compare up to the stuff that site is showcasing.

However, the entire point of Art Fundamentals, is to give students skill sets they may be missing ,and help them build a portfolio, so that they can apply into another program at Sheridan.

I think that going to Sheridan for Art Fundies is a good idea, because that way you get to know the faculty, other students, and the area. Connections are a big thing in the industry, so starting at ground zero just makes sense to me. But up to you in the end :)

Demonique768
March 7th, 2010, 06:28 PM
I would take art fundy in Sheridan if you were trying to get into animation at Sheridan. You can get more feedback on your portfolio and they regularly put up the animation programs art on the walls so you can see where you need to be for your portfolio. Also most of us help out some Fundies by giving them feedback and so forth.

Does anyone know the timings for fundy extra life?

RickyS
March 7th, 2010, 06:48 PM
any sort of schooling's success is dependant on the effort put in by the student

laurabaura is right!!! :D

I wouldn't rely on art fundies to help you build a new portfolio because it's up to you to do the work required to improve. You also shouldn't worry about the students being better than you because they get to focus on drawing for 10+ hours a day. So you can't really compare yourself to them, especially if you're still in high school.

Which means for you guys and girls worring about getting in, just start working hard NOW, so by the time it's Semptember you'll already be awesome before you get into art fundies! Then you're pretty much guaranteed to get into animation or illustration the next year.

I better stop talking and get back to work...

NMartin
March 8th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Art Fundies is especially good for making early links and references. You can simply hang out at 'the Pit' where most art fundies students gather and do assignments on drawing tables. Most Illustration and Animation students pass there from time to time to help near portfolio deadlines.

Extra life drawing helps tremendously, also. Some who come straight from high school or haven't had previous experience from drawing a live model will realize how important it is for understanding mass and perspective for certain portfolio requirements. Drawing a 3D representation of a person from a 2D photograph can be detrimental to your work if you're not too careful.

yuvi
March 9th, 2010, 02:38 AM
good luck for all of those who applied to their courses!

Now we all shall play the waiting game.....

how excruciating... >.<

Visona
March 9th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Hmm from what u guys are saying art fundies sounds promising, problem is my parents aren't so crazy about it cause 1 extra year=pay more money. So im really hoping that this year is gonna be one of the less competitive years, lol im curious to see what everyone's portfolios look like now

laurabaura
March 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Hmm from what u guys are saying art fundies sounds promising, problem is my parents aren't so crazy about it cause 1 extra year=pay more money. So im really hoping that this year is gonna be one of the less competitive years, lol im curious to see what everyone's portfolios look like now

hah you and me both! Seems there's alot more online representation to other schools for applicants on these forums. Could it be that most applicants to Sheridan are Canadian, and this is just a Canadian-ism? We are not very boastful people :P

as for tuition, if you're living at home, it won't be so bad. Fundies is only $2,000 for the year, and that includes your basic art needs aswell.

manda_
March 9th, 2010, 04:16 PM
Hey everyone!

I have a few questions that I wanted to know about regarding the Animation Portfolio Workshop in Toronto, so if anyone is familiar with it or has taken it, any feedback would be much appreciated...I don't even know if they're still taking students but I'm considering registering for to be in the next session.

I've heard really great things about it but I'm still unsure because I want to get my moneys worth and I'm not sure if it's worth it, especially if you're not getting any type of credit for it, whereas in Art Fundies at least you get a certificate in the end. What do you guys think? Still worth it?

Also, for anyone who has taken it and is in Animation now, I'm wondering if what is learned in this workshop makes a difference in terms of their art skills compared to others who have not taken the workshop? I know it's for building a portfolio to get into animation but I want to know how beneficial it is beyond that, once you're already in...

Thanks for any feedback you have for me... :)

P.S- Good luck to everyone who is currently waiting for portfolio results!

laurabaura
March 9th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Hey everyone!

I have a few questions that I wanted to know about regarding the Animation Portfolio Workshop in Toronto, so if anyone is familiar with it or has taken it, any feedback would be much appreciated...I don't even know if they're still taking students but I'm considering registering for to be in the next session.

I've heard really great things about it but I'm still unsure because I want to get my moneys worth and I'm not sure if it's worth it, especially if you're not getting any type of credit for it, whereas in Art Fundies at least you get a certificate in the end. What do you guys think? Still worth it?

Also, for anyone who has taken it and is in Animation now, I'm wondering if what is learned in this workshop makes a difference in terms of their art skills compared to others who have not taken the workshop? I know it's for building a portfolio to get into animation but I want to know how beneficial it is beyond that, once you're already in...

Thanks for any feedback you have for me... :)

P.S- Good luck to everyone who is currently waiting for portfolio results!


First things first, I know they said on March 4th that it wasn't too late to Apply to Art Fundamentals. And I think that holds true pretty close to the actual start date.

Next, you just mentioned that it's in Toronto, but just to be clear, Sheridan is located in Oakville, which is a 30-45minute Go Train ride from Toronto. Not a big difference, I just wanted to ensure you weren't thinking of moving to Toronto (I love it here :( be sad to go)

If your skills are strong enough and you *don't* need Art Fundamentals to get into Animation, then the class *may* not give you as noteable return as someone who needs to be taught those building blocks. However, having an environment in which you are constantly drawing, and getting feedback from a teacher, is a good thing. Whether that be in Animation, or in Fundies.

The Fundies course is notably cheaper than the school's tuition for Animation, at only $2000 for the program. So it very well may be worth taking. Really, what else are you going to do for a year? :D

They take students who have the building blocks in place already into Animation - from my knowledge. So once you're in the program, how you got there doesn't matter, be it self taught, taught elsewhere or taught through Fundies. If that answers your question about how beneficial it is once you're in... Basically, it's beneficial to *getting* you in.

Do a google search for "Sheridan Blogspot" you can see some accepted portfolios and some student work years 1-4. If you feel that your artistic capabilities aren't on par with the accepted portfolio work, then perhaps consider Fundies. That's where I"ll be if I don't get into Animation this year :D

All the best,

Cheers.

manda_
March 9th, 2010, 10:31 PM
First things first, I know they said on March 4th that it wasn't too late to Apply to Art Fundamentals. And I think that holds true pretty close to the actual start date.

Next, you just mentioned that it's in Toronto, but just to be clear, Sheridan is located in Oakville, which is a 30-45minute Go Train ride from Toronto. Not a big difference, I just wanted to ensure you weren't thinking of moving to Toronto (I love it here :( be sad to go)

If your skills are strong enough and you *don't* need Art Fundamentals to get into Animation, then the class *may* not give you as noteable return as someone who needs to be taught those building blocks. However, having an environment in which you are constantly drawing, and getting feedback from a teacher, is a good thing. Whether that be in Animation, or in Fundies.

The Fundies course is notably cheaper than the school's tuition for Animation, at only $2000 for the program. So it very well may be worth taking. Really, what else are you going to do for a year? :D

They take students who have the building blocks in place already into Animation - from my knowledge. So once you're in the program, how you got there doesn't matter, be it self taught, taught elsewhere or taught through Fundies. If that answers your question about how beneficial it is once you're in... Basically, it's beneficial to *getting* you in.

Do a google search for "Sheridan Blogspot" you can see some accepted portfolios and some student work years 1-4. If you feel that your artistic capabilities aren't on par with the accepted portfolio work, then perhaps consider Fundies. That's where I"ll be if I don't get into Animation this year :D

All the best,

Cheers.

Hey there,

I'm actually in Art Fundies now, I was referring to something different. There's a specific Animation Portfolio workshop in Toronto...lol. but I appreciate the time you took to write all that :) Thanksss

Gerard Sternik
March 10th, 2010, 04:04 PM
Hi Manda.

I'm Gerard Sternik, the director of the Animation Portfolio Workshop in
Toronto.
I'll try to answer some of your questions in regard to the Animation Portfolio Workshop that I hope prove helpful for you.

In answer to your first question, we are currently registering students for the upcoming Workshop that starts on May 1 2010.

What we do essentially is train our students in the skill set required to make a portfolio for a specific animation program(s) of their choice.
The whole content of the Animation Portfolio Workshop,quite simply put, is the content of the animation portfolio being asked for by the animation program that the student is applying to.

So for example, to meet the portfolio requirements of the Sheridan 2-D animation program, we have two parts to our program: Life Drawing for Animation and Drawing for Animation.

The life drawing for animation class covers the life drawings, hand drawings, animal drawings, and all other topics that relate to observational drawing that are required by the Sheridan animation portfolio specs.

The drawing for animation class covers the room drawings, head rotation, character design, storyboarding and object drawing components of the portfolio requirements.

So in effect, everything that you study with us is focused on the animation school portfolio and nothing else.


I noticed that there has also been some discussion on this thread about art fundamental programs and the relationship between these programs and animation school portfolios.


Before I taught in the Animation Program at Sheridan, I taught in the Art Fundamentals Program at Sheridan.
At that time, I taught life drawing and also 2-dimensional design class for the Art Fundi's dept.
Drawing on my experience as a teacher in both the AF Dept. at Sheridan, and the Classical Animation Program at Sheridan, I think that perhaps the fundamental (pardon the pun) difference between what we're doing now in the Animation Portfolio Workshop and the Art Fundamentals Program at Sheridan is a matter of program focus.

As I recall, and please correct me if I'm mistaken here, at the time that I was teaching in the Art Fundi's program some years ago at Sheridan there were 5 mandatory classes that had to be taken, Drawing, Painting, 2-d and 3-d design and a class called Ideas and Images (which is akin to a general art history /design / concept development class).
The students that we have taught over the past few years who have simultaneously been taking the Workshop and the AF program, have indicated that the AFprogram is primarily the same as it was at the time that I was teaching in it, with some tweaking having taken place since I was a teacher there.
Accordingly, the mandate of the AF program is to give its students a solid foundation in a broad range of visual arts disciplines, which in my opinion the Sheridan program does very well.
But, what our students have mentioned is that there isn't an AF course that deals exclusively with developing the portfolio for the animation program, which is logical considering that AF programs by there nature are designed to impart "art fundamentals" or a broad, solid, general visual art background for students to draw upon eventually in a more specific fashion.

And I think that this is where our program and all Art Fundamental programs gently part ways...

Nothing about the Animation Portfolio Workshop is generalized, because every drawing exercise that we do and every drawing that we make is produced solely with the animation portfolio in mind.
Our primary function is to stay focused on the production of the portfolio and only the portfolio from the first day that the new student steps through the door,to the last day when the same student is working madly putting the final touches on their portfolio.


In terms of speaking with AF students who have done both the AF program and the Animation Portfolio Workshop, I am happy to hook you up with the AF students who are at Sheridan now, who took the Workshop in the 09/10 session, as well as a bunch of former Workshop students who are in the 2-D animation program at Sheridan now.

I also suggest that you pay a visit to our new site:


http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/



and have a look at the portfolios there, but also, please take a look at the videos page:

http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/videos/watch-the-videos

because here you will find a variety of students/instructors and parents voicing their opinions about what we're up to, and a large number of those students in the videos are former AF students.


Whew...that's a mouth full....

One other thing that might prove helpful to you Manda, is the public information sessions occuring at Sheridan College in April, designed to give curious AF students a chance to look at our students work , learn about the Workshop, and most importantly ask questions to our former students who currently are in the 2-D Animation Program at Sheridan now.

The first Information session is on Wednesday April 7 2010 in room A107 from 11am to 12pm.
Room A107 is just around the corner from the AF "pit".

Please feel free to drop me a line through the conceptart site if you wish or through our website and I'll be happy to put you in touch with some AF /Workshop students.

Best of Luck!!

Gerard Sternik / Director / Animation Portfolio Workshop

http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/

laurabaura
March 10th, 2010, 05:42 PM
oh sorry about that :) sleep depravation has made me non-sensical!

And that's a great amount of information on that Program.

Just wondering though. If you're in Art Fundamentals currently, why are you looking to take a different portfolio building program? I'm just wondering to get your point of view on the program. Was it not helpful for you, and should people potentially be looking at other avenues for the same end goal?

manda_
March 10th, 2010, 11:16 PM
oh sorry about that :) sleep depravation has made me non-sensical!

And that's a great amount of information on that Program.

Just wondering though. If you're in Art Fundamentals currently, why are you looking to take a different portfolio building program? I'm just wondering to get your point of view on the program. Was it not helpful for you, and should people potentially be looking at other avenues for the same end goal?

No problem LauraBaura, I appreciate the intent of trying to help out anyway :)

To answer your question, I'm looking to take a different portfolio building program because although Art Fundamentals is a great program, its very general and it helps you build a portfolio with a range of works in different mediums. I know that for many people it has been a successful backup plan in case they didn't get into Animation the first time, but I personally have found that it is a bit distracting and difficult to keep up with 6 courses AND prepare a separate portfolio for the entry level of Animation at Sheridan...because Art Fundies doesn't really cover specific requirements for Sheridan's animation program. There are parts of the course you can certainly include in your animation portfolio but you still have to include the storyboard, objects, animal drawings and character design for instance, which aren't covered in Art Fundies.

But just to reiterate what many others on this forum have said, you get what you put into it, or any course for that matter. All I know is that for me personally, while I did improve a lot since the beginning of the year at Sheridan, I still want to spend more time honing in on my skills, specifically to get in and succeed in animation and not just as a general art student as Art Fundies is targeted towards.

Gerard Sternik
March 11th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Actually Manda...what you have written here echoes the precise sentiments of the AF students who enroll in the Animation Portfolio Workshop.

The difficulty that these students encounter isn't with AF programs because of the content or quality of those programs......it’s when it comes to trying to put together a decent portfolio for animation school while your studying in the AF program simultaneously that gets tricky.
The strain of having to keep on top of all of your assignments for the various AF courses your taking while trying to piece together the animation portfolio on the side ends up affecting the quality of the actual animation portfolio itself.....

It is stressful making the portfolio for animation school to begin with, because of the element of competition involved.

I know that our own AF / Workshop students have admitted that before they joined AF, they thought that making the animation portfolio was a formal part of their AF curriculum in some way, which in reality it isn’t, nor should it really be, when you get back to what the AF curriculum mandate is meant to be.
Having said that, I have also seen students who can manage the work load of keeping on top of all their AF assignments and piece together the animation portfolio at the same time.


Gerard Sternik / Director / Animation Portfolio Workshop

http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/

NMartin
March 12th, 2010, 09:56 AM
It is quite true that it's hard to balance your course load in Art Fundamentals while making your portfolio, but the true problem lies that students start their portfolio too late.

Almost always. Most started a week before their due dates.

Professors have warned students in the Art Fundamentals program since September-October last year that they should start planning things out early. Since the base requirements of the portfolios don't alter severely year after year, this was made possible to plan things out with a calendar or something. They also recommend to submit the assignments with decent effort put into them (not made the night before they're due), in order to submit them as personal pieces. One of the assignments which was due in 7 weeks was a pencil portrait drawn on a transparent sheet with a skeletal representation underneath. It made a pretty good personal piece.
You also have a ton of opportunity to ask the professors to grade or give criticism for your portfolio pieces all year round. They're not busy, and they love to help when they can because almost no one visits them unless it's the week before portfolio dates.

Then again, it's hard to work hard within the program because of its lax nature. You really need to cram in the Sheridan library from time to time to learn by your own, but it's a great year to prepare yourself to be independent and to manage your time effectively.

laurabaura
March 12th, 2010, 06:00 PM
does anyone know if when they say "we'll let you know in the last week in march" means... the 22nd (which is the 4th week) or would it be the 28th - the 5th week in march (stupid march having 5 weeks this year)

Kb-Kaho
March 12th, 2010, 07:46 PM
i'm not really sure either, but people from last year found out on the 22nd, but some didn't find out the the 26th. Some didn't even find out till the beginning of april, so i guess we should all start checking frantically online starting the 21st?? at least thats what i will be doing...

yuvi
March 12th, 2010, 07:58 PM
When i read this forum, many found out their result around the 30-31st of march. Usually that when most get their results. Sometimes it could be around first week of April. But doesn't hurt to wait and check on the fourth week. :3 The wait is killing me...

My57
March 12th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Awww damn. I hate waiting.

This has been bothering me a little though: I did two drawings based on master works on anatomy (like how Leonardo did those sketches of people and so on) I was wondering if they like those kinds of things?

btw my portfolio had 2 oil paintings, 2 pencil crayon (prisma), one etch/watercolour and the rest pencil. Was that diverse enough? I wanted more oil but oils took longer then expected :P

laurabaura
March 13th, 2010, 12:40 PM
Waiting really sucks. Only 8 more days until I can start obsessively checking my mail!!!

waidot
March 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM
Waiting really sucks. Only 8 more days until I can start obsessively checking my mail!!!

Your results come by the 21st?! Illustration apparently sends results by April 1st T_T

My57
March 13th, 2010, 02:22 PM
April 1st???? D:

yuvi
March 13th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Oh yeah, i forgot to ask... Did anyone go the the information session for illustration?
I had some stuff to do and was unable to make it...

Was there anything important at the session??

laurabaura
March 13th, 2010, 06:04 PM
Your results come by the 21st?! Illustration apparently sends results by April 1st T_T

they said in the session that it would be the last week of March. So it *could* be the 21st. It's just the closest that it *could* potentially be.

Someone told me that last year they had heard by the 22nd I believe. *shrug* the obsession begins!!!

My57
March 13th, 2010, 08:48 PM
Oh yeah, i forgot to ask... Did anyone go the the information session for illustration?
I had some stuff to do and was unable to make it...

Was there anything important at the session??

I was in it for a few minutes. I came in late though so I dunno if this opinion really counts though: They where basically showing artwork from students, but the guy was so incredibly boring that I kinda cheezed after 3 minutes. I don't think it was really anything to worry over missing.

laurabaura
March 14th, 2010, 10:35 AM
I was in it for a few minutes. I came in late though so I dunno if this opinion really counts though: They where basically showing artwork from students, but the guy was so incredibly boring that I kinda cheezed after 3 minutes. I don't think it was really anything to worry over missing.

i went to the animation information session. I would imagine that it would be structured the same. The first part was a small talk to us by the lady the runs the Oakville Sheridan campus, And then there were 4 students that were there who were answering any questions we may have had. So that was the real benefit. Anything you're whimsically curious about, they were answering. After that, they showed us some student work.

So did you miss anything? probably not anything vital, but being late / leaving early or not going means you missed the opportunity to have answers to anything you're curious about.

waidot
March 15th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Oh yeah, i forgot to ask... Did anyone go the the information session for illustration?
I had some stuff to do and was unable to make it...

Was there anything important at the session??

I was there the whole session, and I was totally itching to get out and go for the tour.. The guy in the purple shirt explained some of the basic stuff, like how you had to choose between technical or concept stuff by the third (?) year. He showed some artwork, did a little commentary on each one. Made a lot of corny jokes that people politely laughed at. He also told us that there were about 400 portfolios for Illus. this year (I was surprised by such a low number) and they were taking 100 for the first year class. Then he told us about his career, and how if you're expecting a steady salary, it's unlikely, haha. You are eligible to go into teaching with the degree. Um... Stuff about drawing the cover for a comic book, and designing Canadian Tire money.. I don't remember questions being asked. Kinda boring, but informative.

The tour was nice, but really short. I walked around with my friend afterwards. Our tour guy's name was Kelsey, I believe.

Sorry for the long post, I was half trying to let you know about the stuff and half testing myself on how much I remember.

My57
March 15th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Only 100 people? D:

I guess thats a good number but that is only 1/4 of the people....

yuvi
March 16th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Thanks waidot for the info. I bet the majority of people who were attending the session was dying to get out of there. lol

Only a 1/4 eh... ah... my portfolio was pretty weak in my opinion...so i'm going to prepare a sappy appeal letter in case. ha ha.

alffla
March 16th, 2010, 01:30 AM
shiiiiieeet only 100 out of 400??? FFFUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuu

Rosered
March 16th, 2010, 09:11 AM
The guy in the purple shirt explained some of the basic stuff, like how you had to choose between technical or concept stuff by the third (?) year.

It's actually at the end of first year you have to decide whether to go into the technical or interpretive stream. Second year onwards is devoted to whichever of these two disciplines you chose. The first year of illustration acts more as general illustration course and lays down the basics for both streams. Then depending what you like or excel at more, you chose one and the courses you have to take differ depending on the stream you're in once you've completed your first year.

laurabaura
March 16th, 2010, 11:23 AM
yeah 400 is actuallly low for their normal application pool from what I've heard.

Animation only got 600 this year aswell, which is low for them on that front. They take 120 Animation students. so that's 1/5 :wtf:
But still better odds than it has been in previous years :P

kennygeeze
March 16th, 2010, 12:16 PM
I was there the whole session, and I was totally itching to get out and go for the tour.. The guy in the purple shirt explained some of the basic stuff, like how you had to choose between technical or concept stuff by the third (?) year. He showed some artwork, did a little commentary on each one. Made a lot of corny jokes that people politely laughed at. He also told us that there were about 400 portfolios for Illus. this year (I was surprised by such a low number) and they were taking 100 for the first year class. Then he told us about his career, and how if you're expecting a steady salary, it's unlikely, haha. You are eligible to go into teaching with the degree. Um... Stuff about drawing the cover for a comic book, and designing Canadian Tire money.. I don't remember questions being asked. Kinda boring, but informative.

The tour was nice, but really short. I walked around with my friend afterwards. Our tour guy's name was Kelsey, I believe.

Sorry for the long post, I was half trying to let you know about the stuff and half testing myself on how much I remember.

I wasn't at the session, but who was the guy in the purple shirt? A teacher or a former student?

The year I applied there were over 1000 portfolios... count yourselves lucky, haha :P :)

Ryn
March 16th, 2010, 12:29 PM
I wasn't at the session, but who was the guy in the purple shirt? A teacher or a former student?

If his name is Kelsey and he was one of the STARs guys giving the tour, he's a student. 3rd year interp.
At any rate, I find it strange that a student would be telling people that a steady salary is unrealistic. He's a student with no industry experience, how could he know?

RyerOrdStar
March 16th, 2010, 03:52 PM
It was probably Joe. Corny jokes give it away, also he gave the same speech at my info session. Basically to the effect of, "If you're thinking you're going to make $200,000 a year doing this, leave now"

waidot
March 16th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Yeah sorry, the guy in the purple was a teacher/someone in charge. Kelsey was just a student, who gave a tour around the halls AFTER the info session.

kennygeeze
March 16th, 2010, 06:38 PM
It was probably Joe. Corny jokes give it away, also he gave the same speech at my info session. Basically to the effect of, "If you're thinking you're going to make $200,000 a year doing this, leave now"

My memories of my session long ago are pretty hazy... that was back in 2003 or 2004 or something...

All I really remember was one applicant putting up his hand and asking "if I got in to illustration AND animation then could I do both at the same time?" He was promptly laughed at.

The other one was when the old coordinator was saying he'd love to take everyone who applied (when answering a question about why illustration only took 10% of the applicants) but couldn't as the industry could only take a 100 grads every year.

Visona
March 17th, 2010, 10:29 AM
hmm i remember on the rubric they gave u a sample score sheet and it said if u don't have a min score of 3.26 u can't get in and it also said the average can also increase if theres more competition. But since theres not as many applicants this year i was wondering will the min score drop too? God I hope so...

Cherry_Cheesecake100
March 17th, 2010, 12:11 PM
If it makes you feel better I read on the website of another Canadian animation school (Algonquin) that only about one in ten portfolios are actually acceptable, and by what I've read on here (DBZ fanart poster? Seriosly?) I can totally believe it. So if it makes you feel better, so long as you follow the rules exactly and have a smidgen of skill, you should be okay, especially with the low turnout this year.
Actually I'm quite curious to see how they grade me.

laurabaura
March 17th, 2010, 01:17 PM
I wonder what's caused the low turn out...

They said in the information session for animation that they had 900 students pay the tuition fee to apply, but only 600 portfolios were submitted.

Other than the work load being daunting I'm not sure.

Perhaps it's the flood of 3d animation that's in the market right now (do people not realise that 2d animation is being re-picked up by disney as a focus again? or that there's lots and lots of animation work that you can do with the animation degree, including 3d :P )

OriginalAdric
March 17th, 2010, 05:56 PM
There's always a good-sized gap between the number off paid applicants and actual portfolio submissions. They two years I tried to get in, I was told that the average number of applicants was something like 1200-1500 each year, but they never receive that many portfolios.

Even then 900/600 is pretty low. Last year was bad, too. Probly related to the down economy.

@Cheesecake: Following the rules exactly is pretty tough unless you're actually on campus. The written rubric is sparse, and they're looking for some specific things in the portfolios. The first year I applied, I didn't know any of that, and didn't get in. I took art fundies (guinea pig for the now-dead animation stream), and they gave us the run-down of all sorts of extra info they wanted to see.

@Visona: If they don't meet their enrollment quota after tabulating the scores, they'll go down the list in score order, granting acceptance until they hit their number. I heard rumors that they had to go further down their list than they really would've liked to fill the list last year.

Ryn
March 17th, 2010, 06:02 PM
I wonder what's caused the low turn out...

They said in the information session for animation that they had 900 students pay the tuition fee to apply, but only 600 portfolios were submitted.

Other than the work load being daunting I'm not sure.

Perhaps it's the flood of 3d animation that's in the market right now (do people not realise that 2d animation is being re-picked up by disney as a focus again? or that there's lots and lots of animation work that you can do with the animation degree, including 3d :P )

Last year the number of applicants for illustration and animation was low as well. I'd chalk it up to the fact that a recession economy doesn't inspire people to follow a career that is notoriously unstable (at least, as far as people perceive). I don't think it has much to do with the industry influx of 3D, since that's been going on for a good decade, not just in the last year or two. Probably just people's parents wanting them to be accountants instead of animators. :P

waidot
March 17th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Last year the number of applicants for illustration and animation was low as well. I'd chalk it up to the fact that a recession economy doesn't inspire people to follow a career that is notoriously unstable (at least, as far as people perceive). I don't think it has much to do with the industry influx of 3D, since that's been going on for a good decade, not just in the last year or two. Probably just people's parents wanting them to be accountants instead of animators. :P

Hooray, less job competition in the future then? I don't know whether I'd be glad or scared if I actually got accepted for illustration right now, I feel that a)since the acceptance rate is higher than normal, it's kinda unfair and b) I never really learned the basics so I REALLY think I should go for fundamentals.. I've spent a long time drawing from observation instead of looking at structure (I can't draw people from imagination or anything..) Sigh. Yet I'm STILL nervous about the scoring anyway, as if I have a hope even though I kind of expect/need art fundamentals.

BTW did you see those guys who are.. older than I expected (since I'm 17) with giant paintings of like.. dragons? I thought fantasy stuff was disapproved of. I was the short asian guy and one of the only ones carrying a small folder instead of a fancy case.. Yeah, I suck.

laurabaura
March 17th, 2010, 10:34 PM
aww you don't suck. I saw some other students handing in similar portfolios to what you did, presentation wise. I'm sure they get that. But in the future, you should probably pick up a presentation binder, or a portfolio. A presentation binder is only like $12 at art stores.

as for the paintings, I thought I read something about items over a certain dimension should be photographed. Also, pretty sure they say no manga/anime, no fantasy work, and no digital art. But people had tons and tons of that stuff in their books when I was there. *shrug* not sure.

waidot
March 17th, 2010, 10:46 PM
aww you don't suck. I saw some other students handing in similar portfolios to what you did, presentation wise. I'm sure they get that. But in the future, you should probably pick up a presentation binder, or a portfolio. A presentation binder is only like $12 at art stores.

as for the paintings, I thought I read something about items over a certain dimension should be photographed. Also, pretty sure they say no manga/anime, no fantasy work, and no digital art. But people had tons and tons of that stuff in their books when I was there. *shrug* not sure.

I wonder how strict they are with the whole fantasy/manga work, maybe they'll deduct points for not reading instructions properly..? Haha

I think the photographs are for the mail ones only, or at least keep the work at a good size. I saw some sad looking women with GIANT paintings, I think they couldn't submit them because they were too big.

14 AT MAXIMUM DAYS LEFT TIL WE FIND OUT!

Kb-Kaho
March 17th, 2010, 10:48 PM
Actually, ive heard quite a few thigns regarding what we can and "cannot" submit. For the animation portfolio, we were told we were not allowed to put anime or digital art in there. But i know plenty of good artists who got in with the majority of their portfolio based off of both of these things. Regardless, a skilled artist is a good artist. They tell people to stay away from anime because they don't want cookie cutter anime styles like sailormoon and big googly eyes and they don't want digital art because some are against the younger generation learning digitally with the undo button and not with a pencil first. Which isn't all true, its more of a generalization.

the tl;dr is. If you do it tastefully and with skill,it they should allow some leeway. Not sure how MUCH leeway for the illustration portfolio but i know this for the animation portfolio for sure. A artist who's art style is influenced by anime or done digitally doesn't mean they can't display things like line weight, proportion, line variety, light source and good composition and coloring techniques. Just make sure it doesn't flood your portfolio.

Do it tastefully :)

Ryn
March 17th, 2010, 11:43 PM
...since the acceptance rate is higher than normal, it's kinda unfair..

Is it? Keep in mind, the number of people applying is much less important than how good peoples' portfolios are. There weren't a tremendously high number of applicants this year, just like last year. However, this year had some much stronger portfolios than last year, so the pass grade will (likely) be higher.
Do you have any idea what the pass grade is this year? Have you been told, or are they going to tell you when you get your evaluation back?

Either way, a lot of people in this thread are worrying about other people - how many applied, how good they are, etc. Don't worry about other people! The best person to compete with is yourself. Set your own standards, push yourself hard based on your own capabilities. Put your nose to the grindstone and work your butt off; don't worry too much about the other guys. : )

maybe they'll deduct points for not reading instructions properly..? Haha
They certainly will! The portfolio is an indicator of your skill, but your ability to follow simple instructions is absolutely crucial. If you can't follow the basic instructions regarding portfolios, you won't do well in the program, much less as a professional illustrator. If a client asks you to do a commission with a specific art brief and you blatantly disregard it, you won't be getting work from that client again.

waidot
March 18th, 2010, 12:55 AM
Is it? Keep in mind, the number of people applying is much less important than how good peoples' portfolios are. There weren't a tremendously high number of applicants this year, just like last year. However, this year had some much stronger portfolios than last year, so the pass grade will (likely) be higher.
Do you have any idea what the pass grade is this year? Have you been told, or are they going to tell you when you get your evaluation back?

Either way, a lot of people in this thread are worrying about other people - how many applied, how good they are, etc. Don't worry about other people! The best person to compete with is yourself. Set your own standards, push yourself hard based on your own capabilities. Put your nose to the grindstone and work your butt off; don't worry too much about the other guys. : )


They certainly will! The portfolio is an indicator of your skill, but your ability to follow simple instructions is absolutely crucial. If you can't follow the basic instructions regarding portfolios, you won't do well in the program, much less as a professional illustrator. If a client asks you to do a commission with a specific art brief and you blatantly disregard it, you won't be getting work from that client again.

Thanks for the response Ryn! I don't believe they told us the passing grade.. AND WAIT, "this year had some much stronger portfolios than last year", were you helping out/evaluating or just heard from a teacher about the portfolios? If so, out of curiosity, how many of the transformations involved objects being cut in half? >_> My ideas are usually quite bizarre (I was thinking about transforming them into different textures, like a cup turned into the texture of strawberry skin or something, or a frog? I don't know) and I'm not very good at drawing things up from imagination, more from observation.. So all I did was draw a pill bottle and some other stuff sliced in the middle.. Sigh, not very creative.

And you're absolutely right, their standards will remain the same so the amount of portfolios does not matter. This is just me blabbing, I'm nervous but I've fully accepted and anticipate art fundamentals. I have a year to improve myself and although my parents wouldn't like to hear this but.. AN EXTRA YEAR OF SCHOOL, YAY! It may cost more $$$, but I've always imagined art school not as a thing I go to before going off to work, but a place to help me master my skills, or at least to a level I'd be proud of, haha.

Crap, it's late.

northdrow
March 18th, 2010, 06:28 AM
I don't know for the previous years but the "no digital" rule is not specified in the illustration requirements this year....You people gave me a scare with that, i have 4 of them in my PF :^^;:

I was wondering, do they always send you the assessment score or you have to ask them for it?

kennygeeze
March 18th, 2010, 12:48 PM
I wouldn't judge whether you followed the requirements or not by what the vast majority of people in line had. When I handed in my portfolio there were people in front behind me who (and I didn't even see inside their case) broke at least three of the rules just by looking at them.

AND WAIT, "this year had some much stronger portfolios than last year"

Something that got said every year I was at sheridan.

BTW did you see those guys who are.. older than I expected (since I'm 17) with giant paintings of like.. dragons? I thought fantasy stuff was disapproved of. .

It is. Refer to above :)



I was the short asian guy and one of the only ones carrying a small folder instead of a fancy case.. Yeah, I suck

As I recall the requirements said something about clean and organized presentation. There was nothing explicitly stated about a leather zippered case so don't feel bad. Refer to above.

14 AT MAXIMUM DAYS LEFT TIL WE FIND OUT!

Every year there is often a very long delay with many people's applications. The year I got in there were many others left 'under consideration' for quite a while after my status changed. It isn't like christmas morning. There might be delays.
There is also never any 'at maximum' when it comes to the online services of sheridan. Sometimes it can take a very long time to find out anything. Don't go crazy. :)

With that said I stayed up all night hitting refresh on my browser when I went through that time period. :P

A artist who's art style is influenced by anime or done digitally doesn't mean they can't display things like line weight, proportion, line variety, light source and good composition and coloring techniques. Just make sure it doesn't flood your portfolio.

The illustration portfolio is done from observation so anime is inappropriate if submitted under those guidelines. It tells the evaluator nothing about how well you can draw from observation.
You might as well submit a chunk of math homework and a written essay for all the good it will do.

....and the written instructions for the requirements can fit on one sheet of paper. If a student includes things they explicitly state not to then the student is screwing themselves over. It's one of the only things they say not to do.

They also say no heavy metal frames. Plenty of those sticking out of cases when I walked by ....heh.

People in the program aren't even allowed to use digital on illustration projects (outside of computer class) until at least the latter part of second year.

kennygeeze
March 18th, 2010, 12:55 PM
I was wondering, do they always send you the assessment score or you have to ask them for it?

Unless it's changed in the last couple years you still have to ask for it.

It usually winds up being sent quite a while after you find out whether you got in or not (if I remember correctly)

Ryn
March 18th, 2010, 12:58 PM
Something that got said every year I was at sheridan.

Last year was actually atrocious though. The pass mark was a good 30 points under what it was the year I applied. A lot of people were freaking out about how awful most of the stuff was. There was ONE illustration portfolio that scored above a 90. In my first year class alone there were five people who had recieved 90 or above.

laurabaura
March 18th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Last year was actually atrocious though. The pass mark was a good 30 points under what it was the year I applied. A lot of people were freaking out about how awful most of the stuff was. There was ONE illustration portfolio that scored above a 90. In my first year class alone there were five people who had recieved 90 or above.

i guess as long as the teachers arent grading on "whats good for that sttudents level of ability" and rather on "whats good" then im fine with lower scores getting in. If they end up learning and able to produce just the same, what's the hurt eh?

Obviously though if they're producing *in*sufficient work, that's where it becomes problematic.

But I imagine many of the students applying that dont' get in, or that get in who are deemed "atrocious" are probably from a school where art isn't a focus. Right out of high school, Ontario is awesome that it has art high schools, but really only in the big cities. If you go out of the province, most don't have art as a focus, and only offer an under-funded arts-and-crafts version of what *should* be taught.

Ryn
March 18th, 2010, 07:24 PM
But I imagine many of the students applying that dont' get in, or that get in who are deemed "atrocious" are probably from a school where art isn't a focus. Right out of high school, Ontario is awesome that it has art high schools, but really only in the big cities. If you go out of the province, most don't have art as a focus, and only offer an under-funded arts-and-crafts version of what *should* be taught.

I hear that! I came from a high school in Nova Scotia. I had to bust my butt to get in, I probably wouldn't have been accepted if it wasn't for all the awesome people on CA.org helping me out. :B

stevensgilton
March 19th, 2010, 04:14 AM
Why don't you prefer the thing which you are comfortable with so that you can achieve better.

My57
March 19th, 2010, 10:23 PM
question: So for one of the drawing test I changed this:

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs435.snc3/25041_380269606577_601146577_5450272_7688354_n.jpg

to this:

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs415.snc3/25041_380269561577_601146577_5450269_3992970_n.jpg

Is this good enough? I had no idea how creative they wanted us to be so I held back a tad :P

And I know they said fantasy/horror isn't allowed but I considered these 2 drawings surrealism and thus stuck it to the man. Then added 2 more drawings just in case :P

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs435.snc3/25041_380297351577_601146577_5450374_3270669_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs415.snc3/25041_380297331577_601146577_5450373_969725_n.jpg

^ My art teacher considered them to be surrealism so I just kinda did that. I also gave them a title taped to the plastic (obviously not over the images but in a corner or blank spot). I thought if I gave them a title that explained what I thought about them then they would consider it surrealism? Or am I trying to hard here? xD

Don't judge their quality of line please! Photo's suck badly and they look 10x better in reality. Take my word for it please.

PS: I think some may be warped since I took the pictures at a angle a bit. It was either that or have horrible glare...

Cherry_Cheesecake100
March 20th, 2010, 11:47 AM
Um, My57? The instructions said not to shade the household objects, and your ID number should be on the back, not the front. I don't know if it'll hinder your chances at getting in, but considering the high competition you want to do everything perfectly. I also now know your name is Samuel. :P

laurabaura
March 20th, 2010, 01:48 PM
Um, My57? The instructions said not to shade the household objects, and your ID number should be on the back, not the front. I don't know if it'll hinder your chances at getting in, but considering the high competition you want to do everything perfectly. I also now know your name is Samuel. :P

yeah I noticed that the household objects weren't supposed to be shaded, the night before, so I whipped out 2 new ones. Thank goodness!

Also, I think the objects were supposed to be affected by an exterior force, where it seems that your objects morphed? Not that I think it matters, just something to consider I suppose. Just also wondering where your cone and sphere are in the drawing?

There's alot of little instructions to keep track of ><.

As for your origional 5 drawings, I think anything goes there. That is definitally the place to show your drawings, zany as they may be. It's your opportunity to show them who you are as an artist. And if that is who you are, then great :D

EDIT: sorry, was thinking you applied to animation. If you applied to illustration maybe the guidelines are different >< Like for animation our house hold objects picture had to show cone, sphere, cube, and cylinder, so im assuming it wasnt the same for illustration then...

Gerard Sternik
March 20th, 2010, 03:04 PM
Hi My57.

The drawings that you posted here...are they for the Sheridan animation portfolio, or the illustration portfolio?



Gerard Sternik / Director

Animation Portfolio Workshop

http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/

waidot
March 20th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Hi My57.

The drawings that you posted here...are they for the Sheridan animation portfolio, or the illustration portfolio?



Gerard Sternik / Director

Animation Portfolio Workshop

http://www.animationportfolioworkshop.com/

It's for animation. Got scared for a bit, but their transformation specifies no shading.

My57
March 20th, 2010, 05:28 PM
Sorry I'm in illustration. I forgot to mention that.... And I don't remember them saying no shading for it...

And I really don't care if you know my name is Samuel, you can just call me Sam :Pl. And its not like I put the information right on the drawings, just in the corners...

They also said basic shapes. I didn't think they wanted any specific looking ones. I just used two rectangles and a cylinder. I don't have a cone object in my house...well I don't think so anyways. Most likely not.

You also know my Student ID! lol, well lets see what people do with it.

D:

friedikins
March 20th, 2010, 08:26 PM
I applied for illustration, and I checked the portfolio requirements they didn't specify where to put the ID number and our names, so I'm just guessing that we could put them anywhere (I put them at the front as well).

My57
March 20th, 2010, 08:39 PM
I just did it in case they lost them or something. I would have been heart broken if one of the papers ripped off for some reason. I also hate how they wanted photocopies. The originals look way better >.>

I also wrote down the time it took to complete each drawing. Mainly due to the fact that my figure drawings they wanted where a bit flat and I only had an hour to do them in class. Really wish they allowed for photo reference rather then life. Would have made it easier finding the time for them...

Visona
March 20th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Hey guys, i was wondering does sheridan offer any scholarships and awards for animation applicant/hopeful students? I know i should sound this optimistic now, but do they give you scholoarships if your portfolio score is at a certain level or if you have a certain average in school?

laurabaura
March 20th, 2010, 09:56 PM
I just did it in case they lost them or something. I would have been heart broken if one of the papers ripped off for some reason. I also hate how they wanted photocopies. The originals look way better >.>

I also wrote down the time it took to complete each drawing. Mainly due to the fact that my figure drawings they wanted where a bit flat and I only had an hour to do them in class. Really wish they allowed for photo reference rather then life. Would have made it easier finding the time for them...

That sucks that you were so limited in time. I think that's something that you'll get more comfortable with as you draw more, is speed. Knowing where to place the lines, more confidence in your strokes.

I get why they don't allow a photo reference. It ends up looking rather flat and not much depth. Drawing from life also shows them where you are as an artist in terms of ability to keep up with the work load that they're going to be giving you.

My57
March 20th, 2010, 10:43 PM
Tis true but If your only given an hour to draw someone in your class then it ends up flat anyways. I had to focus more on proportion and such rather then shading.

Soooo anyone gonna answer my surrealism question with illustration? And I'm pretty sure transformation in illustration allowed for shading.

4) Draw a still life of simple objects similar to a sphere, cube and cylinder (for example, an orange, a cereal box and a coffee mug). Now do a second drawing, on another sheet, of the still life but with some kind of change or transformation having taken place with the objects. This exercise is meant to test your creativity.

ya it says nothing about not shading. So I presume what I did was fine. Although I guess I did miss read it since I did 3 basic shapes of a 2 cubes and 1 cylinder. Hopefully my marks won't be docked off to much...

I still don't understand what they wanted with creativity? Did they just want a small change in the objects? Or did they want a full blown toaster hand?

Cherry_Cheesecake100
March 20th, 2010, 11:45 PM
Haha, nevermind, then, My57. I guess I wasn't thinking what you had to draw for animation and illustration would be so similar.

My57
March 20th, 2010, 11:54 PM
That scared the crap out of me though >.>

Ryn
March 21st, 2010, 12:56 AM
Hey guys, i was wondering does sheridan offer any scholarships and awards for animation applicant/hopeful students? I know i should sound this optimistic now, but do they give you scholoarships if your portfolio score is at a certain level or if you have a certain average in school?

I had a few of my friends recieve tiny entrance scholarships ($500 - $1000ish). You won't get any if you aren't a resident of Ontario, unfortunately. :(

Once you're in the program, they're quite generous with needs-based bursaries if you demonstrate 'financial need' (in my experience, anyway). You have to be receiving student loans to be eligible for them, however.

Gerard Sternik
March 21st, 2010, 03:50 PM
It's for animation. Got scared for a bit, but their transformation specifies no shading.

Sorry...I'm a bit confused here.....is it My57 who did the drawings or waidot?

Gerard

My57
March 21st, 2010, 04:03 PM
Well the drawings are in my post so I can only presume I did it. I hope anyways.

Any answers on the surrealism question that I had a few posts above?

waidot
March 22nd, 2010, 10:56 AM
Sorry...I'm a bit confused here.....is it My57 who did the drawings or waidot?

Gerard

Haha yeah sorry. I applied to illustration too so I was answering some of the questions, sorry for making my answers so confusing.

And to my57, I am not sure about the surrealism, but at least you did not draw dragons or anything. I put a pastel sorta surrealism self portrait in my portfolio.. It was the only thing from high school that I wanted to use. The rest were abstract pieces..

yuvi
March 22nd, 2010, 11:22 AM
Well the drawings are in my post so I can only presume I did it. I hope anyways.

Any answers on the surrealism question that I had a few posts above?


I believe Surrealism is accepted but make sure you use references based on real life objects.
From what i heard, they love surrealism. It shows creativity but also shows that you are rendering from real life objects.
So you are fine if you did that.
:3 The third sketch from the sketches you shown, it doesn't actually look surrealism. More like horror. I'd pay more attention to the hand and face. Use some references. Add a background rather than sketchy words.
As for the test with the manipulation, you can go from normal transition [like items being stepped on] or render it to completely different but still able to identify from the original sketch. I think a lot of people did like normal transition where the items just get torn, stepped on etc...to be on the safe side.
A just a little more than a week left till results? Ooooh...

My57
March 22nd, 2010, 05:44 PM
Oh ok. Well 1 out of 2 for surrealism kinda works I suppose. Maybe they'll make an exception based on how awesome it looks :P - Heh, if only...

Hopefully they like my manipulation. I think you can still identify the objects right? Well I'm mainly worried about the hand not being seen as the toaster.

waidot
March 22nd, 2010, 06:29 PM
Oh ok. Well 1 out of 2 for surrealism kinda works I suppose. Maybe they'll make an exception based on how awesome it looks :P - Heh, if only...

Hopefully they like my manipulation. I think you can still identify the objects right? Well I'm mainly worried about the hand not being seen as the toaster.

Yup, hopefully they like the transformation, but two things: there wasn't a hand in the first one, and I don't think you did anything to the cup? I have no idea what they would say about the hand. Otherwise, I think it's pretty imaginative.. more imaginative than mine. I guess you'll see once you get your results back haha

My57
March 22nd, 2010, 07:32 PM
of course there wasn't a hand in the first one. The toaster turned into a metal hand. Or at least I tried to make it look metal. That's the thing. As for the cup... I are got lazy. I really put that drawing back a little in comparison to the other stuff I did.

I hope these guys aren't to hard of markers. So far it isn't looking to good for me D:

dt.nguyen
March 24th, 2010, 11:19 PM
I am SO freakking nervous.

laurabaura
March 25th, 2010, 12:02 AM
I am SO freakking nervous.

Agreed. :P When monday comes, I'll be checking my status on the portal non-stop :S

dt.nguyen
March 25th, 2010, 03:12 AM
How long does this accepting thing go on for? I heard they stop accepting illustration applicants by the end of April? And that they accept in small groups instead off all at once?

waidot
March 25th, 2010, 10:47 AM
How long does this accepting thing go on for? I heard they stop accepting illustration applicants by the end of April? And that they accept in small groups instead off all at once?

Small groups? That might sound possible. Maybe they accept the highest graded portfolios first, and go on slowly from there, because some people applied to more than one program and not everyone will confirm the acceptance.

Fingers crossed for all of you!

etui
March 25th, 2010, 02:31 PM
I applied for Animation, and I am so nervous. But it's nice to see others in the same boat.

The one thing I was wondering, it seems like the scores for the personal pieces aren't very weighty. I just couldn't help but feel self conscious when I saw people with 50 foot canvases [exaggeration, but you get the idea] , while all I had was 3 drawings, a really polished sketchbook page and a photo of a painting for the sake of variety.

Painting is not my forte, so I tried to focus on my strengths [structural drawings, character designs and drawings of the nude figure]

Are they known to favour those giant, ambitious paintings over drawings? I am very satisfied with the rest of my portfolio, but I am worried because I didn't do huge paintings like everyone else.

Ryn
March 25th, 2010, 03:08 PM
Are they known to favour those giant, ambitious paintings over drawings?

They don't. They hate when people bring in huge paintings because it makes the grading process way more of a pain in the ass. Don't worry.

etui
March 25th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Oh thank goodness. It was starting to feel like everyone but me had brought one in.

My57
March 25th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Ya don't worry about size man, its the quality! All my paintings where about 8.5 x 11. And I only put 2 in. My largest one was something like 12 x 17 (pencil drawing). Just big enough to fit under my arm. Sooooo don't sweat it. I was worried when I saw large ones as well.

hunchback
March 25th, 2010, 09:37 PM
what are your scores? :sungod:

My57
March 25th, 2010, 09:45 PM
I won't get my scores until April 1st... Or so. Which is funny since that's April fools day...

etui
March 25th, 2010, 10:05 PM
Does anyone know when the offers of admission are supposed to start coming in? I've heard everything from the 26th, to April 1st, to the first week of April.

I get so nervous wondering if it should have been in right now, and if everyone else has already gotten theirs. I wish there was a definite date.

laurabaura
March 26th, 2010, 04:56 AM
Does anyone know when the offers of admission are supposed to start coming in? I've heard everything from the 26th, to April 1st, to the first week of April.

I get so nervous wondering if it should have been in right now, and if everyone else has already gotten theirs. I wish there was a definite date.

They told us in our information session for Animation, that it will be the last week of March. Friends told me that they got theirs last year around the 22nd, but this year the last week of march is the 28th. :/

They also said because it's such a large pool of people, it can be a few days after that, up to 2 weeks after that. but by mid-april you should definitally have a result either way.

Visona
March 26th, 2010, 11:52 AM
I was wondering, how much do they care about your marks when deciding whether or not they should let you in?

My57
March 26th, 2010, 04:10 PM
Marks are looked at after your portfolio. I would guess they do value your portfolio more, but that doesn't mean you should slack on your grades otherwise. If your like me and your getting in based on your mid-term marks for this semester then try not to slack >.>

If your not a A+ student or something then try at least for a B- or something and it shouldn't effect you to much if your portfolio had say a 80/100.

Ryn
March 26th, 2010, 09:03 PM
I was wondering, how much do they care about your marks when deciding whether or not they should let you in?

As long as your average is above 65%, you're good to go!

xshay12000x
March 27th, 2010, 02:35 PM
does anyone know when can freshmens entering fall 2010 apply for on campus housing?

friedikins
March 27th, 2010, 03:14 PM
does anyone know when can freshmens entering fall 2010 apply for on campus housing?

I think you can apply from now on, I think it already starts from February.

Demonique768
March 27th, 2010, 05:29 PM
I just got a place across the street from sheridan if anyone wants to get a room and such. message me.

pleasance
March 27th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Anyone know anything about the student dorms right beside Sheridan... a place called theplace2be? Is it worth staying there?

I've always wanted to experience residence life, but I'm 24 now so not many residences will take someone that old.

etui
March 27th, 2010, 09:41 PM
I need an opinion. Is it stupid to move into residence if I live exactly 20 minutes from the college?

I was leaning towards living in residence, because I'd really like to make friends and I'm worried about how long the drive is...but I'm very poor and I don't plan on working. (Currently, I'm not allowed to live in a house with people; maybe in my next year, but that's not an issue right now.)

details

-I enjoy my house, free meals, my computer and my privacy.

-I'm really worried about not making friends if I live at home. :( Is living in res and being part of the college culture worth the money?

RyerOrdStar
March 27th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Absolutely not. You'll make plenty of friends in class. I did not meet 1 single person from res the whole year I lived in res. I was more interested in like, working hard at school. And I met plenty of people in my own program who, bonus, had the same interests as me.

Second year I lived a 40 minute walk away from school.

etui
March 27th, 2010, 11:01 PM
Thank you! This is so good to hear. I am extremely work-focused, but so many people are telling me that the college experience is all about making friends and the like.

I'll make an effort to attend clubs and events, but I was just worried I'd be out of the loop if I wasn't living in the same building as everyone.

I want to live at home for the sake of cost, first and foremost, and comfort. And wow, 40 minutes? Okay, that means the 20 minute drive isn't such a hassle, I just assumed everyone was going to be on campus but me.

laurabaura
March 27th, 2010, 11:13 PM
In response to the grades, I was worried about this too, as my grades were AWFUL in highschool when I graduated 7 years ago. So I called the admissions office. I don't qualify as a "mature student" because I *did* graduate.

The lady on the phone basically told me to just put forth a great portfolio. And that if my portfolio is good enough, then they won't care about grades. A pass is a pass, and they want the best quality of student they can get. However she did say that it does carry *some* weight, just not nearly as much as the portfolio does. I know that this could very well be the deciding factor for me NOT getting into Sheridan. In which case, I would have to spend the next year, upgrading my high school credits. Which would suck. My best friend from gradeschool passed away in a car accident in my graduating year, and my grades plummeted. I got about a 53% average. So passing, but not the 65% that they're looking for. Being that there's no interview with Sheridan, I am very worried that they won't be understanding or know this, and just judge me on numbers from 7 years ago. *sigh* such is life, as we roll the dice.

Second: It is not worth paying the money to live in residence. I got a tour of the dorms while I was there dropping off my application, and the rooms are *decently* sized, but you're paying the *same* money that you would to live in an apartment with a roommate for a year, as you would only EIGHT MONTHS in the dorm. Consider that if you only live 20 minutes away, free of charge, is a pretty sweet deal. People will be walking 20 minutes, or taking the bus 20 minutes to get to class.

I've been to University before, and friends and socializing IS a really big part of it. BUT - Sheridan is not the place to discover yourself, to discover what it is you want to do, to wade into that knowledge pool and try on different hats, like University is. you go to Sheridan to learn X Skill. You are going to learn how to become an Animator, or an Illustrator, or whatever stream you're in. You are going with other students with the same focus that you have. and You'll bond with your classmates in those trials and triumphs.

Dorm life also means you're living near people who are in courses potentially less intensive than yours are. and there may be parties and drunk people around to distract you from work.

Also - in a dorm you have to live with a roommate. how is that different to your parents than living in an apartment?

Ryn
March 28th, 2010, 10:27 AM
I need an opinion. Is it stupid to move into residence if I live exactly 20 minutes from the college?


I lived in residence first year because I'm from out of province. In my humble opinion, you should definitely live at home if it's so close. Res is terrible and the rooms expensive. Having no kitchen makes eating decently a nightmare. The toilet in our room probably broke 10 times through the course of the year and would randomly overflow in the middle of the night, soaking into our carpets. It was pretty gross. :/

Res isn't really conducive to meeting people, in my experience. I met a lot more people just being friendly in my classes, making an effort to get to know people, etc. Any hardworking people who live in res seem to hole up in their rooms and never come out except for class, the people you'll make friends with in res will be 'party people'.

That being said, a lot of people at Sheridan still live at home. If you make an effort this factor alone will certainly not be detrimental to your friend making ability. Pretty much everyone here is super friendly, so don't worry! :)

Sheridan is not the place to discover yourself, to discover what it is you want to do, to wade into that knowledge pool and try on different hats, like University is. you go to Sheridan to learn X Skill.

Aw, Sheridan is totally a place to discover yourself. It's just more narrowed down than a university, since most people have roughly figured they want to be artists. But just because it's more focused in that regard, it's just as much a place for learning about yourself than any other 'normal' university. The difference is that you discover yourself through hard work and not through partying all the time. I've changed drastically since my first year, and learned a shitload about life that has nothing to do with art. Don't be so quick to be a hardcore badass artist that you forget to live and better yourself as a person in-between your work. :)

etui
March 28th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Another question;

Will I be able to arrange my schedule to suit my needs, or is it very rigid? My only qualm is the possibility of having classes at 8 am; anything else is fine.

Ryn
March 28th, 2010, 10:37 AM
Another question;

Will I be able to arrange my schedule to suit my needs, or is it very rigid? My only qualm is the possibility of having classes at 8 am; anything else is fine.

Nope. What you get it what you get. Not to be an asshole, but, don't you want to be an artist bad enough to get up for an 8am class? It's not so bad once you get used to it. In my first year, all my classes were 8am starts. You just make the best of it! :D

etui
March 28th, 2010, 10:58 AM
lol you've got a point. if I want it bad enough to pay thousands of dollars, I'm just going to have to be efficient with my time so I can go to bed early :)

What time do classes generally end?

yuvi
March 28th, 2010, 11:02 AM
Nope. What you get it what you get. Not to be an asshole, but, don't you want to be an artist bad enough to get up for an 8am class? It's not so bad once you get used to it. In my first year, all my classes were 8am starts. You just make the best of it! :D

ah no, does that including switching class? Because my friend and i was hoping to be in the same class because it'll be much more convenient to take turns driving to school. [35 minutes drive away] Almost ridiculous to pay separate parking and pay all gas expenses when we live in the same area.

So switching class is out of the question?

yuvi
March 28th, 2010, 11:09 AM
lol you've got a point. if I want it bad enough to pay thousands of dollars, I'm just going to have to be efficient with my time so I can go to bed early :)

What time do classes generally end?

oh wait, i just found something: http://www.sheridaninstitute.ca/Services/Term%20Startup%20Information.aspx#timetables

if you want to change your timetable you can discuss it to the student adviser or program coordinator . :3

RyerOrdStar
March 28th, 2010, 11:38 AM
You can switch into another class. Just talk to Joe and have a good reason. But you can't mess around with the schedule of that class's schedule.

kennygeeze
March 28th, 2010, 04:01 PM
lol you've got a point. if I want it bad enough to pay thousands of dollars, I'm just going to have to be efficient with my time so I can go to bed early :)

What time do classes generally end?

When I was in the program most days would end before 3 or 4. Many days from many schedules I had just had the morning class and that was it. There were a couple rare days in my 4 years that any class ever lasted until 5pm or 6pm -- or at least were scheduled to.

Life-drawing is important though -- that is 7 - 10pm at night from what I remember and "optional"

waidot
March 28th, 2010, 05:46 PM
When I was in the program most days would end before 3 or 4. Many days from many schedules I had just had the morning class and that was it. There were a couple rare days in my 4 years that any class ever lasted until 5pm or 6pm -- or at least were scheduled to.

Life-drawing is important though -- that is 7 - 10pm at night from what I remember and "optional"

I will have to take the GO train from Toronto every day, and I really want to take advantage of the life drawing.

I envy you guys who live close to Sheridan :)

etui
March 28th, 2010, 10:44 PM
Wow, reading back through old posts it seems so many people going into either animation/illustration are so much older than me. And they're still saying it's difficult; very intimidating.

I am 17. On the off-chance that I actually get in, is the workload going to be impossible for me to keep up with even if I'm the type who gets assignments done as soon as I get them?

And does Animation really have courses like science, English and psych on top of everything else?

I assume I'll eventually get used to the non-stop workload, but it's scary seeing people say how stressful it is. :( If I work hard I hope to improve a lot.

laurabaura
March 29th, 2010, 12:21 AM
Wow, reading back through old posts it seems so many people going into either animation/illustration are so much older than me. And they're still saying it's difficult; very intimidating.

I am 17. On the off-chance that I actually get in, is the workload going to be impossible for me to keep up with even if I'm the type who gets assignments done as soon as I get them?

And does Animation really have courses like science, English and psych on top of everything else?

I assume I'll eventually get used to the non-stop workload, but it's scary seeing people say how stressful it is. :( If I work hard I hope to improve a lot.


First, Everyone develops at their own pace. I am a late bloomer, so it took me until the age of 24 to really get good at drawing, enough where I felt comfortable thinking I had a shot at applying. So you may be ready now at 17. everyone is different. Don't sell yourself short :) Having a good work ethic is a really big part of being successful in school. I didn't have that until now, if you have it, then that's fantastic :D

In the information session for Animation, they told us that we do need to fullfil an English requirement, as it is a DEGREE, and not a Diploma. Which is a note of distinction between this program and most others. It's not like regular University where you have to take Psych, and all those other redundant requirements. But there are some. All they told us was the English credit and an elective in 4th year. Other than that, it's a plotted out course load.

Alex Chow
March 29th, 2010, 12:32 AM
I am 17. On the off-chance that I actually get in, is the workload going to be impossible for me to keep up with even if I'm the type who gets assignments done as soon as I get them?


It's stressful but manageable at least in my experience for the first year. If it is impossible to keep up, I wouldn't have the time to post this message.

Ryn
March 29th, 2010, 04:00 AM
Being fresh out of high school and succeeding at Sheridan is totally possible! I was 18 when I was in 1st year and didn't have much trouble adjusting. Lots of people do it.

It's not like regular University where you have to take Psych, and all those other redundant requirements.

Not to call you out, but that's actually exactly what it is. All degree programs have a requirement of a general breadth courses. The idea is that because of this, a degree symbolizes a more well-rounded education, rather than just focusing on one specific skill set (like a diploma does). There are certain electives you will be required to take, and some you will have more choice with, but they are all quite unrelated to art (depending on how you personally can make the best of it). They are 'plotted out' as it was said, but that just means that they've already picked most of your general breadth courses for you. And Illustration students do have to take a general Psych, ironically. :P

laurabaura
March 29th, 2010, 04:49 AM
Being fresh out of high school and succeeding at Sheridan is totally possible! I was 18 when I was in 1st year and didn't have much trouble adjusting. Lots of people do it.



Not to call you out, but that's actually exactly what it is. All degree programs have a requirement of a general breadth courses. The idea is that because of this, a degree symbolizes a more well-rounded education, rather than just focusing on one specific skill set (like a diploma does). There are certain electives you will be required to take, and some you will have more choice with, but they are all quite unrelated to art (depending on how you personally can make the best of it). They are 'plotted out' as it was said, but that just means that they've already picked most of your general breadth courses for you. And Illustration students do have to take a general Psych, ironically. :P

no that's fine. no calling out taken :D Just regurgetating what they told us in the information session. Mine was the Animation information session, and the only non-art-related course they said we had to take was an English credit. And that a "history" credit would be the "history of Animation" class.

RickyS
March 29th, 2010, 07:11 AM
Has anyone been accepted yet? I'm starting to get anxious. :O

etui
March 29th, 2010, 08:09 AM
No, nothing yet over here...:(

etui
March 29th, 2010, 08:17 AM
In regards to the extra courses, I just found them here:

Animation (http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/Programs%20and%20Courses/Full-Time%20Programs/Programs%20A-Z%20Index/Bachelor%20of%20Applied%20Arts%20-%20Animation.aspx)
Illustration (http://http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/Programs%20and%20Courses/Full-Time%20Programs/Programs%20A-Z%20Index/Bachelor%20of%20Applied%20Arts%20-%20Illustration.aspx)
So it seems like illustration takes quite a few courses that aren't directly illustration-related, as you can see from the course codes.

Animation seems to be a little different in that most of the courses are animation related, except for english, history and some character culture thing..

etui
March 29th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Shoot, link for illustration didn't work. Here we go;

http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/Programs%20and%20Courses/Full-Time%20Programs/Programs%20A-Z%20Index/Bachelor%20of%20Applied%20Arts%20-%20Illustration.aspx

But under "courses" you can see that they're much more varied then animation

Sheridan sent me an email saying we should be hearing back from them at the end of march. Getting so anxious now..

RyerOrdStar
March 29th, 2010, 02:55 PM
I have had Animation people in my Mythology course last semester, and also in my Practical Ethics class this semester. They definitely do have to take non art related electives.

kennygeeze
March 29th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Shoot, link for illustration didn't work. Here we go;

http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/Programs%20and%20Courses/Full-Time%20Programs/Programs%20A-Z%20Index/Bachelor%20of%20Applied%20Arts%20-%20Illustration.aspx

But under "courses" you can see that they're much more varied then animation

Sheridan sent me an email saying we should be hearing back from them at the end of march. Getting so anxious now..

I wouldn't try to read toooo much into the course names ;)

etui
March 29th, 2010, 04:18 PM
I wouldn't try to read toooo much into the course names ;)

Aahah, I've been driving myself nuts trying to figure out what some of them might be about...

I understand that it's a like a university level program, but I really hope the electives aren't super intensive. I can't see myself being too thrilled to do a 20 page essay every day when I have art I could be doing. :(

Kb-Kaho
March 30th, 2010, 10:49 AM
hey guys...just got the news this morning.. me as wells as 3 other classmates got into animation for fall 2010. :D

None of my friends gunning for illustration have gotten their news yet, as far as i know they're still under consideration, words is that they don't find out till later this week :/.

Good luck to you all who have not gotten your results yet.

etui
March 30th, 2010, 03:08 PM
Holy cow!! Congratulations! :D :D :D

I am still under consideration, but I applied for animation..Hopefully I'll hear back soon.

etui
March 30th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Omg! Nevermind, i got in!

Good luck everyone!!

RickyS
March 30th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Congrats guys! I haven't heard anything yet, but hopefully I will soon. :O

REDiceT
March 30th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Hey guys! Congratulations on getting in!! :D

I hope me and my sister gets in too. ><!

waidot
March 30th, 2010, 05:02 PM
GRATS YOU GUYS! I think my results are coming in tomorrow midnight, so April 1st.. I hope the teachers don't have sick senses of humour.

Cherry_Cheesecake100
March 30th, 2010, 05:31 PM
Arg, I'm still UC. Congrats to those who got in, though.

Visona
March 30th, 2010, 05:45 PM
ugh still under consideration, lol i remember always being weak and limp just before checking my app status and seeing that UC status *headesk* Congrats to people to got in though!

etui
March 30th, 2010, 06:59 PM
If you check your access Sheridan account it will probably still say under consideration. HOWEVER, I checked my Ontario Colleges account and that's where it was posted (and where I confirmed the offer.) Try that!! It seems to be much faster; I got accepted into fundamentals on there looooong before access Sheridan got around to posting it.

RickyS
March 30th, 2010, 07:43 PM
If you check your access Sheridan account it will probably still say under consideration. HOWEVER, I checked my Ontario Colleges account and that's where it was posted (and where I confirmed the offer.) Try that!! It seems to be much faster; I got accepted into fundamentals on there looooong before access Sheridan got around to posting it.

Yeah, I remember getting accepted to art fundies from the Ontario Colleges website a week earlier than Access Sheridan. There's still no offer for animation from Ontario Colleges though. I hope that doesn't mean I didn't get in. :( It seems like a few people already got accepted into animation.

aFractionoftheWhole
March 30th, 2010, 08:25 PM
hi guys and congradulations to all who already got offers!!!
i was accepted into animation this morning, and 6 or so hours later i was accepted into illustration. march has been crazy, and now i feel so fulfilled ;)
but i'm definitely going into animation. can't wait to go to curry's, buy a lot of stuff and start preparing myself for the actual courses!!

wish the best for all those who are still waiting, it seems they give out offers right through the first week of april.

;)

My57
March 30th, 2010, 08:25 PM
My profile says its a conditional offer ( I know what that means D: Gotta strive for mid-term...), but where do I check for my portfolio marks? It says it's completed marking it so I presume they must have put them somewhere >.> Their website sucks for navigation D:

Winona
March 30th, 2010, 10:03 PM
My profile says its a conditional offer ( I know what that means D: Gotta strive for mid-term...), but where do I check for my portfolio marks? It says it's completed marking it so I presume they must have put them somewhere >.> Their website sucks for navigation D:

Your portfolio marks are sent to you in the mail. I got into animation and can't wait to get my marks and compare how much I improved from having applied last year. XD Congrats on getting into your program!

REDiceT
March 30th, 2010, 10:18 PM
Hey My57! What does a conditional offer mean? D:

AHH... the more I hear people getting in, the more anxious I'm becoming to hear a response!!

@ Fraction: OMG CONGRATS ANGELA ON GETTING IN!!!! 8DDD!!! *GUESS WHO~*

yuvi
March 30th, 2010, 11:03 PM
Hey My57! What does a conditional offer mean? D:

AHH... the more I hear people getting in, the more anxious I'm becoming to hear a response!!

@ Fraction: OMG CONGRATS ANGELA ON GETTING IN!!!! 8DDD!!! *GUESS WHO~*

Conditional offers mean you are accepted as long as you complete the requirement listed. For example, if you are in your last year of high school, you have to graduate in order to accept the offer. Most likely it'll be that and your completion of English U.

So, congrats My57!!!
Waiting is killing me as well. No status change yet, hopefully it will come by tomorrow. Good Luck everyone!!

aFractionoftheWhole
March 30th, 2010, 11:06 PM
Hey My57! What does a conditional offer mean? D:

AHH... the more I hear people getting in, the more anxious I'm becoming to hear a response!!

@ Fraction: OMG CONGRATS ANGELA ON GETTING IN!!!! 8DDD!!! *GUESS WHO~*

YOUUUU :star:
haha i've been stalking this thread for such a long time XDD ( since beginning of march lol) and now im finally leaving my own message muhahahah

dt.nguyen
March 30th, 2010, 11:38 PM
Yay! Just found out I got into illustration!! :D

REDiceT
March 30th, 2010, 11:51 PM
Conditional offers mean you are accepted as long as you complete the requirement listed. For example, if you are in your last year of high school, you have to graduate in order to accept the offer. Most likely it'll be that and your completion of English U.

So, congrats My57!!!
Waiting is killing me as well. No status change yet, hopefully it will come by tomorrow. Good Luck everyone!!

AH, thank you for the response!!!

So does that mean conditional offers are only given to people who doesn't have the minimum average needed to go to Sheridan?? (Or graduate??)

@ Fraction: OMG you stalker... to think you were reading my posts that I've seldom posted since around that time ROFL!!! AGAIN congrats!!!! <33333333333

Kb-Kaho
March 31st, 2010, 01:46 AM
congratz to the lot of you who got into animation and illustration!

I guess a few of us will be classmates in September!

I"m still super stoked haha, i hope to be able to see you all :)

Ryn
March 31st, 2010, 08:18 AM
AH, thank you for the response!!!

So does that mean conditional offers are only given to people who doesn't have the minimum average needed to go to Sheridan?? (Or graduate??)


Conditional just means that you don't have all the credits you need yet (presumably because you're still in high school and simply haven't graduated yet). So as long as you pass all the necessary classes you need in high school, you'll be accepted.

Congrats to everyone who got in so far! :D And those who haven't yet, don't worry!

laurabaura
March 31st, 2010, 02:07 PM
ontariocolleges.ca is down *again*

I really wish they'd upgrade their servers or something. :S

My57
March 31st, 2010, 03:57 PM
Conditional offer basically means: Your in but you have to complete the required classes you are in at the moment.

Or something to that extent. In my case I have to have a certain average for my English class by mid-term. Or just pass the class. I'm trying to aim for at least a 70 or a 75 so my average isn't below a 65. Which I don't think it is at the moment, it should be a 70 or so but just in case I don't wanna slack off >.>

- Lol didn't know there was another page.

And I gotta wait for the mail?? Gay. Can't they interweb it?

PS: I technically already graduated high-school but I'm in it for a victory lap. I wasn't to sure what I was doing last year D: - But I never had ENG U (I are a applied student :D) So I decided to take it this year to get into illustration. This was before I was informed that Fundamentals lets you go into other art courses (it doesn't say it'll get you in illustration on the course info from their website) But all I have been doing this year is practising hardcore so I think I haven't held myself back to much in terms of drawing...

Ryn
March 31st, 2010, 05:00 PM
And I gotta wait for the mail?? Gay. Can't they interweb it?


The scores are graded on physical paper because it's easier. The time required to scan that many application scores/send to appropriate email addresses would take forever. Have some patience. :P

kennygeeze
March 31st, 2010, 05:39 PM
And I gotta wait for the mail?? Gay. Can't they interweb it?

It's not anything profound really. The comments are usually covered up before the scores are photo-copied...

For people who didn't get in... it rarely offers much insight as to why other than all their scores are low and around the same number.

yuvi
March 31st, 2010, 05:43 PM
Just got my most recent action. I couldn't sleep well for the couple of nights and the anxious burst of emotions finally escaped out of my body. I hope to meet some of you guys in illustration! I am certainly set for the upcoming future.

Cheers!

Good luck for those who have not received their result yet.

[sigh] ontariocolleges.ca is having some technical difficulties. stalling us once again. ha ha.

waidot
March 31st, 2010, 06:06 PM
Did anyone get a refused admission yet? I guess they're saving them for last?

RickyS
March 31st, 2010, 06:18 PM
Well... this whole waiting thing is rather ridiculous, so I'm going to assume I didn't get accepted and check for updates next week. If I don't get accepted then no big deal, but if I do, then SWEET! In the meantime I'm going to work my ass off because I feel like my skills are crap. :O

Cherry_Cheesecake100
March 31st, 2010, 08:26 PM
One of my backup colleges has already accepted me, so if I'm one of the few rejected by Sheridan I can take it, but this waiting is still frigging annoying!

My57
March 31st, 2010, 08:31 PM
The scores are graded on physical paper because it's easier. The time required to scan that many application scores/send to appropriate email addresses would take forever. Have some patience. :P

I have patience. I just thought they did it digitally so I automatically made fun of them D:

Ah well, when are they usually received? I guess it would be sometime in the following week or so?

Btw the illustration course allows a person to "teach" at schools (thats what I heard anyways), but what kind of schools? Are we just talking art schools or is it possible for high schools/elementary schools? Or would this allow you to do teachers college afterwards? Just out of curiosity. It would be neat to be a teacher :P

Ufo264
April 1st, 2010, 10:44 AM
I've been following this thread for a while now.
My most recent action says 'registered in requirements' for a couple weeks now. Any idea what that is?
Still no news from sheridan on OASIS nor the sheridan email.
can't sleep lol
I applied to Illustration by the way.

aFractionoftheWhole
April 1st, 2010, 01:15 PM
I've been following this thread for a while now.
My most recent action says 'registered in requirements' for a couple weeks now. Any idea what that is?
Still no news from sheridan on OASIS nor the sheridan email.
can't sleep lol
I applied to Illustration by the way.

hey there, my animation application was "registered in requirements" for a few days, that worried me a bit and then it turned back to " under consideration ", while my illustration application never returned back to under consideration. I think it just means all your requirements are met, and you're under considertaion, i guess they are slow at changing our status to the exact action thats been taken..><..... gl to u ;)

Ufo264
April 1st, 2010, 01:34 PM
hey there, my animation application was "registered in requirements" for a few days, that worried me a bit and then it turned back to " under consideration ", while my illustration application never returned back to under consideration. I think it just means all your requirements are met, and you're under considertaion, i guess they are slow at changing our status to the exact action thats been taken..><..... gl to u ;)

Thanks for the reply.
Well it's april 1st now, afternoon. Was hoping to get a reply when they come back from lunch :)
I guess I have to be more patient.
The wait is hard, as for everyone here.
Well let's hope for the best and be ready for the worst.

Cherry_Cheesecake100
April 1st, 2010, 01:50 PM
Ok, though it still says I'm under consideration for animation, it now says I'm Firm admit for both Art Fundies and Visual and Creative arts, neither of which I signed up for. Does that mean I was rejected from animation?

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 04:14 PM
Guys, I got refused!!! D:> So did my sister!!!!

I'm kind of in panic mode now. Is there anything I can do to change this??? It just seems so sudden. D:

EDIT: I'm sorry if it doesn't sound like I'm admitting this well, but I don't know how else to react... Maybe I really wasn't good enough, but I wanted to get into this program so badly, I just want to know if there's any way to get in?? I can show my portfolio to you guys if you'd like to see if maybe I really did deserve to get turned down. D:

RickyS
April 1st, 2010, 04:43 PM
Guys, I got refused!!! D:> So did my sister!!!!

I'm kind of in panic mode now. Is there anything I can do to change this??? It just seems so sudden. D:

EDIT: I'm sorry if it doesn't sound like I'm admitting this well, but I don't know how else to react... Maybe I really wasn't good enough, but I wanted to get into this program so badly, I just want to know if there's any way to get in??

I just checked my application when I read your comment and I was refused too. :( I guess all we can do is wait for the score sheet and if they marked unfairly then we can appeal. A few people get in that way.

Oh well, I probably wasn't ready this year, but now I have to work my ass off to get in next year. I don't think I was THAT bad though (wonder what I screwed up).

Well looking on the bright side, at least I went through it once so it'll be easier the next time. :P

Cherry_Cheesecake100
April 1st, 2010, 04:48 PM
Darn, refused. Guess I'm going somewhere else. A little disappointing but also a relief. No more waiting. Looks like I'll be going to Algonquin or Seneca. I don't mind. It'll be cheaper, if anything.

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 04:52 PM
I just checked my application when I read your comment and I was refused too. :( I guess all we can do is wait for the score sheet and if they marked unfairly then we can appeal. A few people get in that way.

Oh well, I probably wasn't ready this year, but now I have to work my ass off to get in next year. I don't think I was THAT bad though (wonder what I screwed up).

Well looking on the bright side, at least I went through it once so it'll be easier the next time. :P

Appeal? How do you appeal? (What should you say? D: ) I'm definitely going to try that... D:

Anyways, I'm uploading my portfolio right now to get some straight answers. .___. Because maybe I really did deserve to get rejected, but DAMN I've worked hard on it! ... As other people probably did. OTL;;

EDIT: Okay, I've uploaded my portfolio here, and put them into links instead of direct posting (I think they are too large ><) Sorry for the murkiness, I took this quickly with my camera. OTL If someone could please take a look at them and give me some opinions, I think that would cool me off better. OTL

Sorry for sounding so needy and stuff. OTL;;;;;

EDIT 2: Sorry, I thought this was a little out of place. I'll create a sketchbook or something to place the links instead. ><

yuvi
April 1st, 2010, 05:03 PM
Appeal? How do you appeal? (What should you say? D: ) I'm definitely going to try that... D:

Anyways, I'm uploading my portfolio right now to get some straight answers. .___. Because maybe I really did deserve to get rejected, but DAMN I've worked hard on it! ... As other people probably did. OTL;;

Sorry to hear that. If you feel that you are truly confident about your portfolio you can write an appeal letter to the dean/registrar. I think you have to meet up and have a chat with the registrar first.

Write a semi-formal letter about why you deserve to get in. Also appeal to them with your accomplishments or awards related to the program. Make a memorable letter for them. Make it convincing and professional. Keep your emotion in check though. Should be around 3 paragraphs max.

Hope this helps. I know many did their very best, but its hard to pick when there are only restricted number of people that can get it. There is always another way.

RickyS
April 1st, 2010, 05:05 PM
Appeal? How do you appeal? (What should you say? D: ) I'm definitely going to try that... D:

Anyways, I'm uploading my portfolio right now to get some straight answers. .___. Because maybe I really did deserve to get rejected, but DAMN I've worked hard on it! ... As other people probably did. OTL;;

I never wrote an appeal before, so I'm not sure how you do it. Sorry, I'm in the same position as you right now. There are people in the forum who have appealed though and will probably help.


In the meantime I'll upload some of my portfolio in my sketchbook too and maybe someone can tell me where I can improve (and what I did wrong). Compared to other portfolio's I saw get accepted, I thought I did okay, but I could be wrong... I spent a lot of time working on it too (like, months).

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 05:13 PM
Sorry to hear that. If you feel that you are truly confident about your portfolio you can write an appeal letter to the dean/registrar. I think you have to meet up and have a chat with the registrar first.

Write a semi-formal letter about why you deserve to get in. Also appeal to them with your accomplishments or awards related to the program. Make a memorable letter for them. Make it convincing and professional. Keep your emotion in check though. Should be around 3 paragraphs max.

Hope this helps. I know many did their very best, but its hard to pick when there are only restricted number of people that can get it. There is always another way.

Thank you for telling me, I'll do that! I know others did their best too, maybe I really didn't deserve to get in, but I'm going to try anyway. Dx

@ Ricky: It's okay! I hope we can both appeal somehow. D: I'd like to get feedback on my portfolio too. ><!

EDIT: Ahh I've made a sketchbook with my portfolio stuff in it! Please, I would really love your opinions. >< http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2694510#post2694510

Ufo264
April 1st, 2010, 05:35 PM
OMG guys, I'm sorry for those of you who did not get in.
No word for me yet though...
If it's not today, then I guess it will be next tuesday (the easter weekend thing).
well... the idea is NOT to go crazy.

Visona
April 1st, 2010, 05:48 PM
hey guys i just found out i was refused admit too. oh well it is my first time applying afterall, straight out of highschool and against people who have been taking it seriously way longer than i have. But I know that i've tried my best and quite frankly I have no regrets at all :D I'm not gonna put myself down as an artist just because some school rejected me. Hope everybody here will still keep drawing, and never let go of their dreams of making it big in the art world, after all a lot of other successful people faced rejection at least once. Don't give up!

LOL hopefully my parents will let me take art fundementals so I'll try next year when i get more experience. When i do i hope to see some of you there!

RickyS
April 1st, 2010, 06:34 PM
I uploaded my rejected animation portfolio in my sketchbook which you can view here. (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2694578&postcount=137) It would be great if someone could give me feedback because I'm not sure where I stand in terms of skill level required for the course.


@ Visona - Sorry to hear you got rejected too. I'm also coming straight out of high school. Yeah, it's funny because lurking around DeviantArt I found an artist who I looked up to 2-3 years ago when I was just starting to draw got accepted!! They were already great back then, whereas I was struggling with drawing cubes, so I guess the competition is greater than I anticipated! But you're right, no matter what if you get rejected you should only draw HARDER so you will reach your goals. The only true failure is when you give up or don't try.

waidot
April 1st, 2010, 07:31 PM
I'm on the waiting list for Illustration.. T_T Is anyone else?

Can I even appeal for this? & does anyone know how long it'll take before I find out I've been rejected/accepted?

laurabaura
April 1st, 2010, 07:47 PM
Just out of curiosity. Anyone who is waiting, what Letter does your last name start with? I have a feeling like they're sending out responses alphabetically. My friend just heard today, and her last name starts with a G. My last name starts with an S and I haven't heard. Wondering if anyone could support/invalidate this hypothesis? :D

RickyS
April 1st, 2010, 08:03 PM
It's not alphabetical because my last name starts with an S too (hence the username :P).

To be honest I have no idea how they mark the portfolios. It seems like they do it randomly, but I think they send out the scores to the best people first then narrow it down from there.

waidot
April 1st, 2010, 08:08 PM
Just out of curiosity. Anyone who is waiting, what Letter does your last name start with? I have a feeling like they're sending out responses alphabetically. My friend just heard today, and her last name starts with a G. My last name starts with an S and I haven't heard. Wondering if anyone could support/invalidate this hypothesis? :D

I'm on the waiting list for Illustration and my last name starts with Y. I can't believe it's a holiday weekend..

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 08:45 PM
Hi guys, still around lol. ><

I think they are going by the number of student applicant number? That might make more sense lol. ;u;!

mellox
April 1st, 2010, 08:58 PM
I applied to animation and found out that I got refused admit.
How sad... I wanted to get in so badly, and was really looking forward to learning animation starting fall 2010.
I also spent a long time on this portfolio but I guess it just means my level didn't meet the expectations and i'm not ready for it yet.
This has really been a big disappointment. :(

So, looking at the bright side, I'll go to art fundies this year and apply for animation again next year. Oh god, the thought of making a new portfolio really disgusts me.
It makes me sad to think I won't be able to learn with the people in the same age group. Those of you who got it this year, we won't be able to be in the same classes. :(

There's one question I want to ask. How do you get into the waiting list? If possible, I'd like to try to be put into the animation waiting list.
Is it, if you've been refused admit, you have no chances of being put into the waiting list?

Congratulations to those who got accepted.
Those who didn't, I'll be seeing you at fundies!

(man this is one long ass comment. hahah sorry.)

Ufo264
April 1st, 2010, 09:09 PM
Mine starts with a K
and still no word from Sheridan

Ryn
April 1st, 2010, 09:15 PM
Sorry guys who didn't get in. :< But this is only a failure for you if you let it be.

Remember why you want to go to school in the first place. You all want to be professional artists someday, and school is just a stepping stone to that. It's a great stepping stone, but remember that it is but a small step on your journey of becoming a better artist. So please, don't loose heart! Channel your disappointment into working even harder than you were before. Turn your refusal of acceptance into a catalyst of determination.

Also, being in Art Fundamentals is NOT a bad thing! It's a very useful program for many people who have taken it, and will allow you to be immersed in an environment full of artists. Half of the people in my current class took fundies, and there is no skill difference between those who did and didn't at this point.

That being said, I know plenty of people who got in after being waitlisted, and a few who have successfully appealed. There is always hope!

Take care all. Don't worry! :)

waidot
April 1st, 2010, 09:21 PM
I applied to animation and found out that I got refused admit.
How sad... I wanted to get in so badly, and was really looking forward to learning animation starting fall 2010.
I also spent a long time on this portfolio but I guess it just means my level didn't meet the expectations and i'm not ready for it yet.
This has really been a big disappointment. :(

So, looking at the bright side, I'll go to art fundies this year and apply for animation again next year. Oh god, the thought of making a new portfolio really disgusts me.
It makes me sad to think I won't be able to learn with the people in the same age group. Those of you who got it this year, we won't be able to be in the same classes. :(

There's one question I want to ask. How do you get into the waiting list? If possible, I'd like to try to be put into the animation waiting list.
Is it, if you've been refused admit, you have no chances of being put into the waiting list?

Congratulations to those who got accepted.
Those who didn't, I'll be seeing you at fundies!

(man this is one long ass comment. hahah sorry.)

I'm not sure if you can ask to be put onto the waiting list, but I was put there as my "Recent Action", and I guess I just have to wait a while. Maybe you can appeal to get accepted or put into the list? Has anyone here been placed in the waiting list or know what goes on?

RickyS
April 1st, 2010, 09:27 PM
I applied to animation and found out that I got refused admit.
How sad... I wanted to get in so badly, and was really looking forward to learning animation starting fall 2010.
I also spent a long time on this portfolio but I guess it just means my level didn't meet the expectations and i'm not ready for it yet.
This has really been a big disappointment. :(

So, looking at the bright side, I'll go to art fundies this year and apply for animation again next year. Oh god, the thought of making a new portfolio really disgusts me.
It makes me sad to think I won't be able to learn with the people in the same age group. Those of you who got it this year, we won't be able to be in the same classes. :(

There's one question I want to ask. How do you get into the waiting list? If possible, I'd like to try to be put into the animation waiting list.
Is it, if you've been refused admit, you have no chances of being put into the waiting list?

Congratulations to those who got accepted.
Those who didn't, I'll be seeing you at fundies!

(man this is one long ass comment. hahah sorry.)

I really wanted to get in too. I don't think you'd be learning with people the same age as you though (assuming you're coming out of high school) because from what I saw, most people who get accepted are around 19-20 years old and some are even older. Not that age matters anyway cause there's some freakin' insane 17 year olds out there...

On the sample score sheet you get with the portfolio requirements, it says you get on the waiting list if your portfolio score meets the standard, but is below the minimum adjusted score (which means you're good enough to get in the program, but more people have higher scores than you and fill all the seats). Unfortunately this means if you got rejected you can't get on the waiting list because your score doesn't meet the minimum standard. :(

Well see you in fundies along with everyone else. :P


@ Ryn - Hell yeah, that's how I feel about it! I'm going to work harder so they will HAVE TO accept me next year! I'm more pumped now to do my second portfolio than my first one. :D

aFractionoftheWhole
April 1st, 2010, 09:31 PM
MARIAAA!!!! don't be upset, after seeing your portfolio , i felt that you didnt have that much guidance while making your portfolio, so its kinda not your fault, I went to this art studio for 3 months almost everyday, and i felt the teacher there really helped me a lot. i wouldn have come up with something like what i handed in if i was doing it on my own. and i read on you DA you only had a month to prepare it, dont be discouraged!!! HUGGG

and hope everyone will cheer up ; )...

I'm on the waiting list for Illustration.. T_T Is anyone else?

Can I even appeal for this? & does anyone know how long it'll take before I find out I've been rejected/accepted?

I read somewhere on this thread ( from the 2009 period) that the wait list is a short list. i think you should call the admission and ask for you positon on the wait list. and than you can appeal, if your appeal is approved you'll either be on top of that list or given a offer... you should check out the pages on this thread, its around p127ish ;) gl

waidot
April 1st, 2010, 09:41 PM
I read somewhere on this thread ( from the 2009 period) that the wait list is a short list. i think you should call the admission and ask for you positon on the wait list. and than you can appeal, if your appeal is approved you'll either be on top of that list or given a offer... you should check out the pages on this thread, its around p127ish ;) gl

Cool! I've read through a lot of this forum but I never imagined myself being on the waitlist.. Thanks for everything!

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 09:45 PM
MARIAAA!!!! don't be upset, after seeing your portfolio , i felt that you didnt have that much guidance while making your portfolio, so its kinda not your fault, I went to this art studio for 3 months almost everyday, and i felt the teacher there really helped me a lot. i wouldn have come up with something like what i handed in if i was doing it on my own. and i read on you DA you only had a month to prepare it, dont be discouraged!!! HUGGG

OMG Angelaaaa ;____;!!!

YEAHS I guess this year just isn't gonna work. Should I even bother to appeal??

Also I wanted to ask about the art fundies thing! I'm kind of leaning over to that, it seems to be the popular choice after rejection, but my mom's kind of against this because she thinks it's a year of waste since it's basically a portfolio building year, right? (Because if I start going to Sheridan, my whole family has to move over to Oakville, which was the plan before I didn't make the cut. >< The iffy-ness about this is that my mom actually has another year to go in York, so moving to Oakville is kinda inconvenient to her.)

There's also something I heard about going to Seneca for a year, and then transferring to Sheridan... is this possible???

aFractionoftheWhole
April 1st, 2010, 09:52 PM
OMG Angelaaaa ;____;!!!

YEAHS I guess this year just isn't gonna work. Should I even bother to appeal??

Also I wanted to ask about the art fundies thing! I'm kind of leaning over to that, it seems to be the popular choice after rejection, but my mom's kind of against this because she thinks it's a year of waste since it's basically a portfolio building year, right? (Because if I start going to Sheridan, my whole family has to move over to Oakville, which was the plan before I didn't make the cut. >< The iffy-ness about this is that my mom actually has another year to go in York, so moving to Oakville is kinda inconvenient to her.)

There's also something I heard about going to Seneca for a year, and then transferring to Sheridan... is this possible???

a bit off topic, but your mom goes to york?XDD...cool mom
well i was planning to go to art fundies if i didnt get accepted, at first i wasnt so sure about fundies, but after reading all the things on this forum about how your self motivation is much more important then the programs, i think fundies is a really good year to focus on improving skills. ;) it all depends on you.

and for secena, as its a college program, the credits you earned there cant be transfered to sheridan ..so will have to start from year 1.. ;(

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 09:57 PM
a bit off topic, but your mom goes to york?XDD...cool mom
well i was planning to go to art fundies if i didnt get accepted, at first i wasnt so sure about fundies, but after reading all the things on this forum about how your self motivation is much more important then the programs, i think fundies is a really good year to focus on improving skills. ;) it all depends on you.

and for secena, as its a college program, the credits you earned there cant be transfered to sheridan ..so will have to start from year 1.. ;(

LOL yeahs that's the reason why I moved to toronto in the first place! ;u;

Ahh okay then, I guess art fundies is the way to go. >< Now my last concern is if OSAP can cover this?? >< I might have to dorm there with my sister instead of moving my whole family over. ><

aFractionoftheWhole
April 1st, 2010, 10:08 PM
LOL yeahs that's the reason why I moved to toronto in the first place! ;u;

Ahh okay then, I guess art fundies is the way to go. >< Now my last concern is if OSAP can cover this?? >< I might have to dorm there with my sister instead of moving my whole family over. ><


YESSSSS@.@!!! :DDD i want dorm toooo, if i dont get in rez, i'll live with my mom :D ..and visit you guys..if you guys win the lotto.. :))))

REDiceT
April 1st, 2010, 10:12 PM
YESSSSS@.@!!! :DDD i want dorm toooo, if i dont get in rez, i'll live with my mom :D ..and visit you guys..if you guys win the lotto.. :))))

YESS as in I'm not giving up and going to art fundies or YESSS because OSAP can cover the fees??? 8D ROFL I'm taking this way better than I thought. TuT

AHH YES. Then we can visit each other and play everyday HAHA. (And you can give me insider tips about what you guys do in the first year HURHUR.)

aFractionoftheWhole
April 1st, 2010, 10:45 PM
YESS as in I'm not giving up and going to art fundies or YESSS because OSAP can cover the fees??? 8D ROFL I'm taking this way better than I thought. TuT

AHH YES. Then we can visit each other and play everyday HAHA. (And you can give me insider tips about what you guys do in the first year HURHUR.)

yes to fundies..
not sure to osap.-V-
insider tips? no problem ;D

Ufo264
April 2nd, 2010, 10:44 AM
Hey guys, who is STILL waiting for a response?
Im guessing the offers of admission are suspended untill tuesday because of the holiday weekend? Some more days of waiting...
meanwhile here's some of my work I included in my portfolio.
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Ufo264/Portfolio/?start=all
i did only pencil works, cuz thats pretty much all i can do (except the one we were asked to do in ink) and i can paint a bit in photoshop.

anyway, good luck to all who are still waiting for a response from sheridan!

laurabaura
April 2nd, 2010, 01:25 PM
Hey guys, who is STILL waiting for a response?
Im guessing the offers of admission are suspended untill tuesday because of the holiday weekend? Some more days of waiting...
meanwhile here's some of my work I included in my portfolio.
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Ufo264/Portfolio/?start=all
i did only pencil works, cuz thats pretty much all i can do (except the one we were asked to do in ink) and i can paint a bit in photoshop.

anyway, good luck to all who are still waiting for a response from sheridan!

I think they all got updated before they left the office last night. I finally heard, and I didn't get into Animation. I shall be on Team Fundies :D Check the sheridan portal, not the ontariocolleges.ca portal. I bet you your status has been updated.

Ufo264
April 2nd, 2010, 01:46 PM
I think they all got updated before they left the office last night. I finally heard, and I didn't get into Animation. I shall be on Team Fundies :D Check the sheridan portal, not the ontariocolleges.ca portal. I bet you your status has been updated.

Ive been checking accessheridan OASIS nonstop for past few days. Only today I checked around 30 times already. Is still says 'registered in requirements' under most recent action. I check OCAS and webmail regularly also. No news.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Ufo264/Capture.png
I think they refused my application but forgot to change status, because I still have 0 offers of admission on OCAS. But what suprises me is that I cant be that bad so they don't even offer me a place at art fundies? I mean come on, check my portfolio works, i was among the best in cegep (quebec).
But how long does it take for them to post an offer of admission on OntarioColleges website after an offer to Fundies or, whatnot, a firm admit???

RyerOrdStar
April 2nd, 2010, 04:02 PM
Don't worry, you WILL be accepted to Fundies. Everyone with a pulse is accepted into fundies ;)

alffla
April 2nd, 2010, 07:38 PM
oh my godddd i've been checking access sheridan everyday.. still under consideration.. is that a bad sign >_<

Ufo264
April 2nd, 2010, 08:31 PM
oh my godddd i've been checking access sheridan everyday.. still under consideration.. is that a bad sign >_<

At least I'm not alone in this :)
lets wish each other good luck!

alffla
April 2nd, 2010, 09:52 PM
At least I'm not alone in this :)
lets wish each other good luck!

hahaok ;S so nervous everyday. i hate it when the page starts loading lol.. gets me every time.

ok .. good luck to everyone!

laura0707
April 3rd, 2010, 05:09 PM
I've applied to illustration, and I am currently on the waiting list. :(
I hope good things come of this lol

northdrow
April 4th, 2010, 01:27 AM
I'm still under consideration too...just up to when do they have to actually make a decision? Wouldn't want to pay penalty on my lease if i'm accepted.


They sure are taking their sweet time :\

waidot
April 4th, 2010, 01:33 AM
I'm still under consideration too...just up to when do they have to actually make a decision? Wouldn't want to pay penalty on my lease if i'm accepted.


They sure are taking their sweet time :\

You'll probably have to wait til Tuesday before getting a response, as I'm assuming the college isn't even open on Easter Monday.

laura0707
April 4th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Just curious...

It says we could be waiting on the list until 5 days up till classes.
Lets say I went into fundies.
Are there not fees that need to be paid by June?
Will I have to pay for illustration too?

Anyone else on this boat? lol

waidot
April 5th, 2010, 09:49 AM
Just curious...

It says we could be waiting on the list until 5 days up till classes.
Lets say I went into fundies.
Are there not fees that need to be paid by June?
Will I have to pay for illustration too?

Anyone else on this boat? lol

I'm on the waiting list too and I'll be taking Fundies for now. I've been calling the office but the person who's supposed to tell me my place on the waiting list isn't there.. Keeps going to her voicemail. I'm gonna ask once I can get her to answer.

biancaeris
April 6th, 2010, 08:02 AM
Hello! I just got my results and I passed (my last name starts with a B) I hope to see you guys as classmates there. :D
I just have a question? Will they send the score sheet by e-mail or do we have to ask for it or something? And good luck to you guys!

Ufo264
April 6th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Hello! I just got my results and I passed (my last name starts with a B) I hope to see you guys as classmates there. :D
I just have a question? Will they send the score sheet by e-mail or do we have to ask for it or something? And good luck to you guys!

I still have nothing from them :(
I think the score sheet comes by regular mail without requesting

manda_
April 6th, 2010, 04:36 PM
Hey everyone! Congrats to those who made it into Animation so far and good luck to everyone who's going to work hard and/or go into Fundies and re-apply next year. =)

Not sure if this was asked before on this forum...but does anyone know if Macs are acceptable and compatible for Sheridan Animation and the programs used? Or are PCs better for it? Anyone who knows please let me know! I am looking into investing into getting a Mac but I don't want to get one to find out I can't use it in Sheridan's Animation program...

Ufo264
April 6th, 2010, 05:17 PM
Hey everyone! Congrats to those who made it into Animation so far and good luck to everyone who's going to work hard and/or go into Fundies and re-apply next year. =)

Not sure if this was asked before on this forum...but does anyone know if Macs are acceptable and compatible for Sheridan Animation and the programs used? Or are PCs better for it? Anyone who knows please let me know! I am looking into investing into getting a Mac but I don't want to get one to find out I can't use it in Sheridan's Animation program...


I say, don't buy a Mac.
I know I know, this whole thing about digital art world and Mac thing...
Macs are really overpriced. For the amount i spent on it last year i could of changed PCs 3 times already with the same config and power, and more.
You will work on programs that are both mac/pc supported, so the file you save on a mac in class should work on a pc at home and vice versa.
I say buy a PC, and a decent 12.8X8 Wacom tablet, thats a better investment. For a Mac's price you could get a kickass PC powerfull enough for everything, 3d, 2d, gaming, you name it! Or even that could wait. As far as i know, you are not touching computers in the first year, so start your classes then see.
Good luck!
Btw no reply for me yet :(

REDiceT
April 6th, 2010, 09:22 PM
Hey guys, I just wanted to ask something!

I accepted the art fundamentals today, but I wanted to ask if I can still appeal? (Marking sheet didn't come in yet!)

Sorry to be such a bother, but I was just wondering if this was still possible! Otherwise, I guess I'll see you guys as an art fundie! :>

biancaeris
April 6th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Thanks ufo264 :) And I hope your results come out soon! The waiting part really made me so nervous and anxious :|

Alex Chow
April 6th, 2010, 10:16 PM
I accepted the art fundamentals today, but I wanted to ask if I can still appeal? (Marking sheet didn't come in yet!)

Wait for the marking sheet to come before writing your appeal letter. You need to be able to state your specific concerns on the pieces you wish to have a second opinion on.

laura0707
April 7th, 2010, 12:24 AM
I am looking into investing into getting a Mac but I don't want to get one to find out I can't use it in Sheridan's Animation program...

Honestly, I don't even think you need to worry about that until 2nd, 3rd year. They do very little digital stuff, near the beginning so I hear.

I have a mac...saved up for a whole year :D
So I kind of went against my own advice but whatever :)

manda_
April 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Honestly, I don't even think you need to worry about that until 2nd, 3rd year. They do very little digital stuff, near the beginning so I hear.

I have a mac...saved up for a whole year :D
So I kind of went against my own advice but whatever :)

That's true. I've heard that you don't need it until later in the program. I need a new one anyway so I'm just debating which one is the best in the long run. But just to be clear, using a Mac isn't a disadvantage compared to using a PC in Animation right? Are all the required programs and software compatible with Macs?

Sacari
April 7th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Just popping in to add to the "I got wait listed for Illustration!" list of people :P Which was actually a great thing for me, I was expecting a flat out rejection and "Go take Fundies!"
Just waiting to hear back from OCAD... but it'll be very likely I'll be joining everyone taking Art Fundamentals :)

waidot
April 7th, 2010, 05:58 PM
Got my score sheet.

This year, the minimum score to get into the program was 59.

I got a 57.5, which is low, so I'll be taking Fundies unless they suddenly decide to accept me.. But I think I should go for Fundies so I can go to Illustration with stronger skills.

RickyS
April 7th, 2010, 08:00 PM
This is strange... I have a conditional offer for Art Fundamentals and one of the conditions is English. What I don't understand is in the letter I got around February 8th they said I needed grade 12 English which I didn't have at the time, but since it's past semester one I have the credit now and it was updated in my transcript. But Sheridan still hasn't updated it in the Student Centre. So should I contact them or do I have to do some sort of english test (I heard some people have to write an english test or something for art fundies)? I don't see why I have to write a test cause my marks were good...

REDiceT
April 7th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Wait for the marking sheet to come before writing your appeal letter. You need to be able to state your specific concerns on the pieces you wish to have a second opinion on.

Ah, okay thank you! Yes I was planning to wait until it comes, I was just wondering if this option was still eligible, even though I have already accepted art fundamentals. :)!

@ Ricky: Oh gosh another English test??? I ended up not doing so hot on Seneca's English test.... (Even though my English grade is pretty decent; around 85% average)

If Sheridan makes me do another English test like that.... :(

Alex Chow
April 7th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Ah, okay thank you! Yes I was planning to wait until it comes, I was just wondering if this option was still eligible, even though I have already accepted art fundamentals. :)!


Exactly what happened to me but you can cancel your acceptance for Art Fundies and accept animation/illustration instead after the whole appeal deal is done with.

etui
April 7th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Just popping in to say I got my Animation portfolio scoresheet in the mail today. 93/100. :)

soooo many people including my art teacher and the Sheridan reps said I probably wouldn't make it because I was 17 coming straight out of highschool. It definitely got me down a few times, but don't let anyone tell you that you can't. Anything is possible if you work hard.

And now, a question:

Is there anything specific I definitely should stock up on beforehand for Animation? I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to invest in a lightboard or a small model of the skeleton, stuff like that (which is something I wanted for my own purposes anyway, actually). Not interested in anything very fancy, just tools that will be helpful in relation to the work we're doing.

RickyS
April 8th, 2010, 07:20 AM
@ REDiceT - Sorry for making you worried... I just looked at the first page of this thread and it looks like you probably won't have to take a test. I guess it's for people who don't have grade 12 english yet or got a bad mark. Here's the link to the assessment anyway (http://www.sheridaninstitute.ca/Admissions/Explore/Programs/Applying%20to%20Sheridan/Assessment%20Centres/Assessment-Test%20Details/English%20Proficiency%20Assessment.aspx##why_epa). I'll contact them to see why they haven't updated my requirements...


@ etui - Wow, 93/100 is a great score! Good job! It's funny because almost everyone at my high school thought I would get in, but they were wrong. I guess the lesson is don't listen to non-art people because they don't know any better, so just work hard and follow your own path; you'll succeed some day. :D

aFractionoftheWhole
April 8th, 2010, 09:52 AM
Just popping in to say I got my Animation portfolio scoresheet in the mail today. 93/100. :)

soooo many people including my art teacher and the Sheridan reps said I probably wouldn't make it because I was 17 coming straight out of highschool. It definitely got me down a few times, but don't let anyone tell you that you can't. Anything is possible if you work hard.

And now, a question:

Is there anything specific I definitely should stock up on beforehand for Animation? I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to invest in a lightboard or a small model of the skeleton, stuff like that (which is something I wanted for my own purposes anyway, actually). Not interested in anything very fancy, just tools that will be helpful in relation to the work we're doing.

amazing *_* congraz.

buy a box of newsprint and a set of conte, and you are good to go for the lifedrawing part.. ;) ..

Ufo264
April 8th, 2010, 09:54 AM
OMG people are receiving score sheets already and I still have no reply!!!
this sucks...
Was being patient enough! Im calling Sheridan.

Edit: They said that the offers for Illustration should be completed by tomorrow. So for anyone who's still waiting, it shoud be over soon. ;)

etui
April 8th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Newsprint and conte, got it. Guess I'll stock up on colerase pencils while I'm at it, I seem to go through those like candy. D:

Got my score sheet.

This year, the minimum score to get into the program was 59.

I got a 57.5, which is low, so I'll be taking Fundies unless they suddenly decide to accept me.. But I think I should go for Fundies so I can go to Illustration with stronger skills.

The minimum score for admission this year for Animation is actually 74.75
A perfect score of 4.00 would be equivalent to 100. So you get your score out of 100 by multiplying the number they gave you it by 25 :) It seems like you accidentally multiplied it by 20 instead, which is why the number came out so low.

aFractionoftheWhole
April 8th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Newsprint and conte, got it. Guess I'll stock up on colerase pencils while I'm at it, I seem to go through those like candy. D:



The minimum score for admission this year for Animation is actually 74.75
A perfect score of 4.00 would be equivalent to 100. So you get your score out of 100 by multiplying the number they gave you it by 25 :) It seems like you accidentally multiplied it by 20 instead, which is why the number came out so low.

i remember waidot is applying for Illustration~ so 59 is likely the minimum score for illustration, and i remember the minimum score for illustration has always(recent years) been around high 50 to mid 60.

i got my animation score, 3.5, which converts to 85? same as what i expected i would get :tihi:

Visona
April 8th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Hey out of curiousity, to the people who did get in to animation, if its not too much to ask, would it be ok if you guys post your portfolio pieces? Oh can i also ask just how long you guys worked on your portfolios? exactly how much effor do you think you put in and how much support did u get? Thanks a bunch!

etui
April 8th, 2010, 07:12 PM
i remember waidot is applying for Illustration~ so 59 is likely the minimum score for illustration, and i remember the minimum score for illustration has always(recent years) been around high 50 to mid 60.

i got my animation score, 3.5, which converts to 85? same as what i expected i would get :tihi:

Oooooh nevermind then, sorry about that. Didn't know he was going for illustration.
But yeah, your score is actually 87.5 :)

I like knowing what my score out of 100 is because that's what I'm used to. I'm sure people who usually get marked with the grade point average system won't care overmuch.

adidawg
April 8th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Hey I recently checked my mail and got a score of 2.70 :(.. I'm planning to appeal soon and wondering if any of you guys appealed yet? If appealing still fails then at least I get to meet you guys as a fundie!

adidawg
April 8th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Out of curiosity, did anyone experience some drastic change in your marks after appeal? How long does the entire appeal process take? =\

etui
April 8th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Hey out of curiousity, to the people who did get in to animation, if its not too much to ask, would it be ok if you guys post your portfolio pieces? Oh can i also ask just how long you guys worked on your portfolios? exactly how much effor do you think you put in and how much support did u get? Thanks a bunch!

I feel a bit iffy about posting it just yet, but I will tell you anything you need to know about the process. Here are some examples of portfolios that got in, if you haven't already seen them:
http://portreview.blogspot.com/ Many of the animation students also post their portfolios at the very beginning of their blogs.

I worked on my portfolio on for a period of three months, starting from Christmas break. That gave me plenty of time to redo things that I wasn't happy with, but for the most part all of my free time was taken up by it. I finished about two weeks before my evaluation day, so I had some time to tweak things as I saw fit.

The pieces were pretty involving; it wasn't so much drawing [as I usually would] as it was figuring out exactly what they wanted and pushing myself to do the best I possibly could on each. The rubric they enclosed was my Bible, and it's a little daunting to look at before you even start the portfolio, but in the end it proves to be a huge help. I put in a ton of effort, but it was a labour of love. It feels so good to work that hard on something and be satisfied with it in the end :) Even if it means no time for video games or friends.

Support..

It's a solitary thing, and for the most part you need to be self-driven. But a lot of people in my art class were all working on their art portfolios at the same time, so that was wonderful. We'd just talk about how it's going and what we needed and we'd all get to say how nervous we were because everyone was in the same boat.

On the other hand, I also got ALOT of "It's impossible to get into, there's no point in trying" from people who haven't seen what I was working on but knew how exclusive the program is.

I'd kind of get it secondhand too, like "from some guy who heard it was so hard to get into" or stuff like how "only one person in the entire school ever got in" etc. One teacher said I couldn't get in because I didn't have any classical art training. :\ It's like geez, if I was a master already I wouldn't be going to school at all.

It can be discouraging, but you have to take it as just another reason to work harder, to prove those people wrong.

Keep reminding yourself of why you want it. I actually just watched a lot of Disney movies and cartoons and looked at all the work the Sheridan students were currently doing. I've been stalking their blogs since the beginning of grade 11 to really get a feel for exactly what the work was all about, so I just kept that up whenever I was feeling down.

I hope this helps. It was quite the journey.

aFractionoftheWhole
April 8th, 2010, 09:11 PM
i agree with etui with self motivation. its all about not slacking off to watch a tv show, but spent that time trying to realize your ideas on paper. (which is what i didnt do, and i regret a lot). and following the instructions and knowing what they want is very important, why? my character design obviously lacked the creativity and liveliness they wanted ,so i got bad marks on it.

and i actually spent the same time as etui, starting from christmas. its actually a bit late, as i couldn't bring anything to national portfolio day to see if they approve of it. I really recommend starting your portfolio in the summer and go to the portfolio day!!!

heres my partial portfolio, im too embarrassed to post my character and storyboard:
http://ap2092.blogspot.com/

northdrow
April 8th, 2010, 10:10 PM
OMG people are receiving score sheets already and I still have no reply!!!
this sucks...
Was being patient enough! Im calling Sheridan.

Edit: They said that the offers for Illustration should be completed by tomorrow. So for anyone who's still waiting, it shoud be over soon. ;)

Hey thanks for the update! i was about to call 'em myself. I've had a bad feeling about this for too long and not knowing is killing me.

REDiceT
April 8th, 2010, 10:19 PM
HEY GUYS! I actually got cheered up when I saw my score! It wasn't as bad as I thought: i got a 2.73! I will try to appeal, it seems they marked me down a lot under the "animation" category, which kind of bothers me because EVERY SINGLE ONE is marked down as a 2?? I got 3's and 4's on everything else. O_o

Also, my sister seen her score. She got a 0 on something, which I see means that there's a page missing??? How can she appeal for this?? It was definitely there?? And it's not like it was extremely horrible either... at least a 1 or 2 should be it. O_o

@ Alex Chow: Hey there! I understand you've done an appeal before, and I was wondering how me and my sister can write one?? It's our first time to do something like this.. we could use some help! D:

aFractionoftheWhole
April 8th, 2010, 10:57 PM
HEY GUYS! I actually got cheered up when I saw my score! It wasn't as bad as I thought: i got a 2.73! I will try to appeal, it seems they marked me down a lot under the "animation" category, which kind of bothers me because EVERY SINGLE ONE is marked down as a 2?? I got 3's and 4's on everything else. O_o

Also, my sister seen her score. She got a 0 on something, which I see means that there's a page missing??? How can she appeal for this?? It was definitely there?? And it's not like it was extremely horrible either... at least a 1 or 2 should be it. O_o

:

definitely appeal!! i support you and annie, and if she did put in the required stuff then you guys have to get her mark back!!

Alex Chow
April 8th, 2010, 11:00 PM
@ Alex Chow: Hey there! I understand you've done an appeal before, and I was wondering how me and my sister can write one?? It's our first time to do something like this.. we could use some help! D:

I got my sister to do it :/

Just be as polite and formal as possible and avoid asking for lost causes. Get your friends (especially those with art experience) to look at your portfolio and ask them if you're not sure which pieces should be appealed for. The most important thing I've learned is to look at your portfolio from a fresh eye - an objective eye - before sending that letter.

In my opinion, the Presentation portion of the portfolio is highly subjective and, assuming you got 2s in some pieces for that while getting 3s for others, it is worth a shot. Sections like structure, proportions and perspective have less leeway so only go for those if you are truly sure it was "unfairly marked".

What ended up happening for me is that not only did I get the marks I requested for but I got more on top of that (EDIT: That said, I also didn't get more marks on things that I knew, for sure, was a lost cause. My animal drawings are laughable.) Despite the strict portfolio process, the markers were human after all! :)

Good luck.

etui
April 8th, 2010, 11:08 PM
and i actually spent the same time as etui, starting from christmas. its actually a bit late, as i couldn't bring anything to national portfolio day to see if they approve of it. I really recommend starting your portfolio in the summer and go to the portfolio day!!!
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Agreed so hard. I regretted that, but I don't think I was good enough at that point to be working on it the summer after grade 11. I ended up just bringing a pile of character doodles and skeleton + animal drawings, the kind of stuff I'd do normally to show them what I was about. It went wonderfully despite me being unprepared, the people I talked to were very helpful. Go to portfolio day, definitely. At the very least, it will give you that sense that you really aren't alone :)


....And it convinced me that OCAD was not the place for me. At all.