Sheridan Information Please!

[Ryn]

Just a note on the sketchbook submission stuff.

Last year I applied to illustration, mailed the whole thing in since I was in Nova Scotia and couldn't go to the portfolio day.

My 'sketchbook' part was a bunch of pages taken from my sketchbook. Some were cut out, some were photocoppied. So I just took this random pile of ripped out/photocopied drawings, stuck them together with a paperclip and sent that in. I got a 9/10 on both the sketchbook and presentation marks.

So there's a little contradictory evidence to make the whole process even more convoluted for the people just applying. :P
I guess maybe this suggests that they're a bit more lenient with the presentation if you're sending in your portfolio rather than bringing it in during portfolio day.

[enrigo]

Another question is, should I have another back up application other than the foundation ? If so, what would you recommend for the other places? I'm not very knowledgeable about the colleges and programs.:(

[kennygeeze]

Enrigo,

I hope I understand your question correctly.... It's not that hard to get accepted to fundies. There's no portfolio and they accept pretty much everyone who meets the highschool diploma requirements. The program is very large as it seems like they're about giving as many people chances as possible.
The program is still a challenge, but I'd be very surprised if they didn't accept someone who had the highschool requirements.

As far as other places to apply to... I guess it really depends on your interests and where you're willing to move. I've only been at sheridan for my artschool education. I don't know much about other schools.

I remember applying to Georgian, George Brown, and Cenntenial for their foundations programs as back-up -- got accepted to all of them, but wound up pursuing sheridan.

OCAD also has a foundations course and an illustration program (i think), but I know next to nothing about it.

[kennygeeze]

Hey Ryn,
Thanks for posting that information. I didn't realize how the whole mail-in thing worked.

On another note about the sketchbook thing.... I was handing in the last of my art fundamentals portfolios over the weekend that began christmas break (back in 2003)

I met an illustration prof at his desk and had a short little discussion about what would give me a good chance for getting into the program.
He told me to get a sketchbook and fill it with lots of drawings from life... he specified hands and feet -- explaining that they were hard to draw and students often avoided drawing them. Said alot of his 1st years couldn't even draw them properly yet.

Regardless of how much is actually required in the sketchbook category of your portfolio, concentrating heavily on a sketchbook and life-drawing for all of christmas break really improved me alot and put me in a much better position for the other requirements. I 'leveled up' alot.

Besides, doing that amount of drawing will put you in an excellent position to handle the very demanding workload of the program.

[enrigo]

Thanks Kennygeeze, I guess the backup would be there just to make my parents stop worrying. :D

I'll start developing my portfolio and sketchbook soon, time to do a lot of life drawing !

[FalconInverse]

Official guidelines for 2008 portfolios are now accessible through OASIS, to those who've already applied through OCAS..

I note there is a conflict between the public and private instructions for illustration. In the public one, it says to photocopy and staple sketchbook pages for submission, on the OASIS one it says to submit the sketchbook itself.. i guess we're submitting the whole book, as OASIS is the official word?

(Applicants who are mailing in portfolios would still do the photocopy/staple thing, of course.)

Portfolio dates for illustration are:
(Friday) February 29 and (Saturday) March 1st 2008.

Portfolio dates for animation are February 25-28, 2008.

Requirements are essentially the same as posted on the public site..

Best to get Cracking :ilaekae:

[kehrilyn]

Hullo guys,

I'm in Grade 12 too and I've applied to Sheridan and everything...even signed up for my portfolio evaluation (Animation) for February 28. x___x

Nothing regarding size was mentioned in the portfolio requirements...does anyone know how large the pieces in my portfolio are allowed to be? Especially for the nudes since the newsprint used for those tends to be pretty large...oh, and storyboards....do you think I need to use the given sheet for my drawings?

Ugh...all this college prep. XP
But can't wait to get into Animation.*dance dance*

[thomasaurus]

My suggestion would be to go for a smaller, more manageable format. The evaluators have to go through a LOT of material, so try to make your portfolio as straightforward and accessible as possible. Letter size, give or take, is a good bet. For large newsprint drawings I'd just scan/photograph them and print em out on something nicer than standard printer paper.

Use the given sheets for your storyboards. Trust me... I didn't when I applied, and they wouldnt mark them at all... I had to fight with admin to get them to recognize them.

Holy, when was the last time I posted here? I've been neglecting.

[enrigo]

Another question, do I need to send a transcript to OCAS right away or after I get all my Gr.12 marks ?

edit: Also, where can I find the portfolio requirement for 2008, I think the one on the website is still the old one.

[Ryn]

Another question, do I need to send a transcript to OCAS right away or after I get all my Gr.12 marks ?

edit: Also, where can I find the portfolio requirement for 2008, I think the one on the website is still the old one.

I seem to remember that I sent off a current transcript in November or whatever, before I had graduated, then sent an updated one once I had my final transcript.

[algebra]

How do I register for a specific portfolio review date? Or is it done automatically upon application?

[enrigo]

Official guidelines for 2008 portfolios are now accessible through OASIS, to those who've already applied through OCAS..

I note there is a conflict between the public and private instructions for illustration. In the public one, it says to photocopy and staple sketchbook pages for submission, on the OASIS one it says to submit the sketchbook itself.. i guess we're submitting the whole book, as OASIS is the official word?

(Applicants who are mailing in portfolios would still do the photocopy/staple thing, of course.)

Portfolio dates for illustration are:
(Friday) February 29 and (Saturday) March 1st 2008.

Portfolio dates for animation are February 25-28, 2008.

Requirements are essentially the same as posted on the public site..

Best to get Cracking :ilaekae:

Are there any changes on the option B of the portfolio ? or maybe where can I find the 2008 official guidelines ? I did applied through OCAS but I don't know where to get the guidelines.

You guys had been a great help, I hope I'm not annoying anyone with all these questions :P

[Stone_Walker]

How do I register for a specific portfolio review date? Or is it done automatically upon application?

you have to register a portfolio date in OASIS ( under Learner Services> Events> Event Registration) :)

Does Sheridan still accept people under Mature Student status for Animation?

[algebra]

I am assuming I still register for the review date even if I am mailing my portfolio in? Haha, I just want to make sure I don't mess up some stupid detail.

[FalconInverse]

As far as i recall, option B should remain the same. I didn't notice any changes.. but its much better if you can check it out yourself.

If you havn't already, you should soon be recieving a user name and password. You won't be able to sign up for anything until you recieve acknowledgement from Sheridan of the application you made through OCAS.

Mature student policy should remain the same, as posted on the website.

[kehrilyn]

My suggestion would be to go for a smaller, more manageable format. The evaluators have to go through a LOT of material, so try to make your portfolio as straightforward and accessible as possible. Letter size, give or take, is a good bet. For large newsprint drawings I'd just scan/photograph them and print em out on something nicer than standard printer paper.

Use the given sheets for your storyboards. Trust me... I didn't when I applied, and they wouldnt mark them at all... I had to fight with admin to get them to recognize them.

Holy, when was the last time I posted here? I've been neglecting.

Hey, thanks a bunch nor. <3
I went out and bought two portfolios 8.5x11 and 11x14 with black inserts and I'm going to see which one my art looks better in. The given storyboard boxes are sort of small so that's the only thing ticking me off....

Ah, one more thing...
In Art class we're doing this thing where we make 'mock' portfolios and our teacher has been making us include mini rationales, artist statements, dimensions, mediums and a resume. Does Sheridan require we include these things in our portfolio as well?

[FalconInverse]

I was talking to Peter Palermo yesterday, and he seemed to think it was advisable to do the storyboard drawings as large as you want, then reduce them with a photocopy or something to fit the panels..

You definetely have to use the storyboard panels. He said that it is also important to include the speech/actions in the space provided.

[Gerard Sternik]

In response to the questions in this thread with regards to preparing portfolio's for animation programs like Sheridan College, please feel free to contact me:

gerard@portfolioworkshop.com

if you would like to drop by and visit a class of the Animation Portfolio Workshop with what you have assembled so far of your animation portfolio.

I know that the portfolio deadline for Sheridan's program falls on their reading week, which is toward the end of February.....

We have a variety of students in this group.....some are in art fundamental programs at Sheridan and Seneca, some are still in high school etc.

You would be able to compare what you've got with their work, and hopefully get a realistic gauge of where your at with it all!

If you visit:

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

http://apwlifedrawing.blogspot.com/

http://apwcharacterdesign.blogspot.com/

You'll get a pretty good idea of what we do.

Best of luck!!


Gerard

[smarty333]

Few questions:
Okay, so if I am going to one of the portfolio days, it is okay to include photocopies? They don't all have to be originals?

And for the portfolio...I don't know which one to use? Like this: https://www.currys.com/catalogpc.htm?Category=A015B006325&NBReset=3
Or something cheaper, like this: https://www.currys.com/catalogpc.htm?Category=A015B006300&NBReset=3

Thanks

[Kozak]

Few questions:
Okay, so if I am going to one of the portfolio days, it is okay to include photocopies? They don't all have to be originals?

And for the portfolio...I don't know which one to use? Like this: https://www.currys.com/catalogpc.htm?Category=A015B006325&NBReset=3
Or something cheaper, like this: https://www.currys.com/catalogpc.htm?Category=A015B006300&NBReset=3

Thanks



333 is my favorite number!

Anyway,
I am using the cheaper of the two (actually, that exact brand) and I know a lot of people who are in animation / illustration programs now who have done the same.
I think they make your work look very presentable and it's whats inside that counts anyway.

:)

[Gerard Sternik]

Here's what our students do in the Animation Portfolio Workshop.

For Seneca Animation, they want all 8.5"x11" photocopies, not original art.
They want the artwork loose... ie. in a brown paper envelope with your application data etc.
You bring all of this to their orientation session for the drawing test.

With Sheridan animation, we actually asked about the photo-copy thing...and here's what we got as an answer....
Basically, they want to see original art, and they say that in their portfolio specks.
In the case of our students, they tend to have allot of very good optionals, and so as a rule what we counsel them to do is to submit all originals ...yes the 18"x24" life drawings in there full size, and then if they have tons of good optionals, to design some decent pages of the images, and print out the required number of optional pages with multiple images on them.

See the example attached 279626

Shen Lee, who is now in Seneca's program , had a series of pages like the one I attached here, as optionals.

As to where to scope out decent portfolio cases at a not too indecent price, a number of last year's Animation Portfolio Workshop group found porttfolio's with plastic liners for drawings up to 18"x24" at a place called Picasso Art Supply, in the Toronto area.
Go online or grab a phone book to find them and give them a try.
I'm not entirely sure how much $ they saved on the cases, but it was a good deal of coin, much cheaper than Curry's or Loomis and Toles.
Also give a try to Gwartzman's Art supply store, or Tern Art Supply, both in T.O.
They tend to have pretty good student deals.

Happy Landings!!

[Oden]

this is a long thread, so forgive if I skipped some pages and missed some stuff, but--

I'm thinking about going for the Illustration program at Sheridan...I was originally thinking about AAU, but the costs are pretty prohibitive. Sheridan seems like the next-best school I can find that's actually affordable for me.

I've just got a few questions...I can't seem to find a guide to the actual courses offered in the Illustration program (although I'm probably going to do Art Fundamentals first, anyways). Can anyone give me the gist of how the Illustration program flows? it sounds like there's an emphasis on figure drawing/realism at least, which is good. Anatomy, perspective, etc. How 'bout painting? most of the art I do now is focused on acrylic/oil painting, and I really wanna keep developing that as well as the drawing side of it.

is there much of a focus on business/entrepreneurship? I'm not really interested in that aspect...I'm not really aiming for technical and/or advertising illustration so much as the "fine art" side of illustration...concept art, etc

[Kozak]

Oden - I know that if you go to Sheridan's Website > Programs > Bachelor of Applied Arts -Illustration Page and click the 'tab' (more or less) that says 'Program Map' it will give you a list of the classes that you will take if / when you are in the illustration program.

(keep in mind, though, that first year you do both technical and interpretive work and 2nd-4th year you choose to do one or the other so don't be overwhelmed thinking that you do ALL of the courses listed there)


Also, I have heard that illustration does more 'studio' painting than the animation course but I do no that Sheridan does not allow oil paints in any of the studios. Everything is acrylic, gouache, watercolor, etc.
You also do a lot of painting / colour theory in Art Fundamentals as well.

Hopefully this was helpful!

[Kozak]

I notice a lot of people have replied concerning the sketchbook submission questions

. . .but I have a few more!

i) I am attending the portfolio review event for both animation and illustration and i was wondering: My portfolio is going to be in a black, portfolio 'case' (binder? book? whatever?) but if im bringing my actual sketchbook in , how do i ensure that the two items (portfolio + sketchbook) dont get separated? Should I just stick with doing the 'stapled package' thing?

ii) What kind of sketchbook content would be the most appropriate? Drawing everything and anything that you find interesting/inspiring (ie: a sketchbook journal/diary?) A bunch of life drawing / studies? A combination of the two?

Im so nervous about portfolio submissions. Do you know how the sketchbooks are evaluated?

Also,
can anyone recommend a size for a sketchbook? Should it be about 81/2 x 11 or can it be one of those smaller Moleskine books?

[kennygeeze]

I notice a lot of people have replied concerning the sketchbook submission questions

. . .but I have a few more!

i) I am attending the portfolio review event for both animation and illustration and i was wondering: My portfolio is going to be in a black, portfolio 'case' (binder? book? whatever?) but if im bringing my actual sketchbook in , how do i ensure that the two items (portfolio + sketchbook) dont get separated? Should I just stick with doing the 'stapled package' thing?

ii) What kind of sketchbook content would be the most appropriate? Drawing everything and anything that you find interesting/inspiring (ie: a sketchbook journal/diary?) A bunch of life drawing / studies? A combination of the two?

Im so nervous about portfolio submissions. Do you know how the sketchbooks are evaluated?

Also,
can anyone recommend a size for a sketchbook? Should it be about 81/2 x 11 or can it be one of those smaller Moleskine books?

Hi Contemporary,
You need to make sure that however you package your portfolio -- everything is contained within and cannot be separted.

I visited in highschool to drop off my portfolio, as well as drop off my application in fundies, and help carry my friend's application portfolio home years later. The vast majority of people seem to package their portfolio in the large, flat, black zippered cases. If you have a book of work and a sketchbook, then it's probably a good idea to stick them in some sort of case or container that can hold both of them.

As far as your question on what goes in the sketchbook ... from everything that I've heard (from teachers) it's supposed to be a visual diary with ideas, concepts, and observational drawings from life -- perhaps even rough work for the pieces in the rest of your portfolio that would be considered finals.

Teachers continue to look through my sketchbooks even in 4th year and look at my ideas and comment alot on my drawings from life -- especially faces and people. Seems to be important to them. (I'm in the interpretive stream btw)

Something my first year conceptual process teacher said about the way sketchbooks in the portfolio are marked: One of the things they're looking for besides for good competent drawings in whether or not you're teachable. I remember him saying that if a student gives him a drawing of a boot it's much easier to see if that student can be evaluated and improved than if that same student gives him in a stack of 'anime' drawings.

The size of the sketchbook should be whatever you're comfortable drawing with. I have a hard time drawing in anything smaller than 8.5 by 11 -- so do whatever's comfortable.


Good luck,

Ken

[kennygeeze]

this is a long thread, so forgive if I skipped some pages and missed some stuff, but--

I'm thinking about going for the Illustration program at Sheridan...I was originally thinking about AAU, but the costs are pretty prohibitive. Sheridan seems like the next-best school I can find that's actually affordable for me.

I've just got a few questions...I can't seem to find a guide to the actual courses offered in the Illustration program (although I'm probably going to do Art Fundamentals first, anyways). Can anyone give me the gist of how the Illustration program flows? it sounds like there's an emphasis on figure drawing/realism at least, which is good. Anatomy, perspective, etc. How 'bout painting? most of the art I do now is focused on acrylic/oil painting, and I really wanna keep developing that as well as the drawing side of it.

is there much of a focus on business/entrepreneurship? I'm not really interested in that aspect...I'm not really aiming for technical and/or advertising illustration so much as the "fine art" side of illustration...concept art, etc

I'm interpretive 4th year so Ill try to summarize as best I can:

1st year: This is your common year. No one chooses interpretive or technical until 2nd year. You have a life-drawing class where you work from the live nude figure and you have a painting class that alternates between watercolors and acrylic. You also have an object drawing class where you learn very precise and technical freehand drawing systems to construct a variety of objects -- and then in 2nd semester adding value to them so they look realistic.
You also have a coneptual process class which is your introduction to the ideas that go behind tackling concepts and avoiding common cliche's. You do a visual diary which varies in purpose depending on the teacher.
You also have a basic design class where you learn about composition and other stuff -- apparently it's changed alot since I took it so I don't know what to say about it.
There's also an introduction class into the mac labs where you learn illustrator, photoshop, indesign, etc.

2nd year: Some of your courses are the same (if you chose interpretive) such as figure drawing and painting. You just go to the next level.
There's a media experimentation class where every month they change the proejects from ink to scratchboard to watercolor, to collage, etc.
Your main class is called 'interpretive illustration', it's twice a week, and through excersises you learn to take on a variety of projects including editorial illustration, a huge narrative project (where you design the characters, the setting based on a breif, and then your compositions) , a storyboard and setting construction project, and a couple others at the end that are project breifs from the real world (I think one of mine was decorative music article illustration, and the other one was illustrating an article about athetlic motivation or something)
You have computers again -- more stuff, more programs and more advanced.

3rd year: Life-drawing and life-painting get combined into one course. You continue with real-world illustration projects in interpretive illustration ranging from narratives, to alot of editorial, to stuff for large marketing campaigns and coming up with campaigns, etc.
You also get a class called info illustration -- which is a more graphical way of illustrating and very in-demand right now.
There's also a graphic design class where you learn how to work with typography, make posters, pamphlets, CD covers, etc.
In 2nd semester you begin a business course that formally teaches you all the legalities of contracts, promotion, and price quoting for freelancing.

Comptuers deals with after effects, flash, and website building.


4th year:
Interpretive illustration (the class) turns into a self directed course where you can base your projects on what area of illustration in the real world you want to work on. The profs will help you with this.
You get a course called visual narrative where you learn the basics of comics, book illustration, or more conceptual stuff if that's your interest.
It's your final year so alot of the projects are very self directed depending on your area of interest.
You take your last business course in 1st semester and in 2nd semester it gets replaced by a final computer class.

There's only two official classes for the entrepeneurship side of illustration, but I don't know why you say you're not interested in that because without knowing the ins and outs of contracts, pricing, and promotion an illustrator isn't going to make very much money.

I don't think concept art is necessarily the 'fine art' side of illustration, but I guess I'm not familiar with your terminology. Sorry, heh.

There's a few people in my class who have aspirations to do fine arts (be exhibited in galleries and not work with a client's breifs) however I don't know that much about that area itself.

I know of a couple people who want to go on into videogame conceptual art and orient their 4th year projects around that.... I find that in my 4th year everyone's interests are pretty widely spread out with only a small handful of people here and there that aspire for the same industry area. Some want editorial, some want to do children's books, some are focusing alot on portraits this year, some are doing book covers, etc.

[Kozak]

Wow, Kenny, thanks for two great posts!
Those were both really helpful especially your description of the illustration program.

[algebra]

Yeah, great posts Kenny.

How well do digital pieces in your portfolio fare? I am doing at least one portfolio piece in digital just as a "look I can do this" sort of thing, but I was thinking of including some digital sketches in my sketchbook, is that a no-no?

[Aspectabund]

Ah, sort of connected to algebra's post above me: is it all right if I do stuff in good digitally, as opposed to col-erase and pencil? As in, scanning in my storyboards and turnarounds and crispin' them up. Or is this just unnecessary?

[algebra]

Hooray, conditional acceptance to art fundamentals received today. I didn't know I had to take the English proficiency test(s) though, as I am from the US and English is the only language I can speak fluently?

[enrigo]

I checked today and it says Requirements Incomplete under art fundamentals, I already sent my transcript to OCAS and they received it. Does anyone know what went wrong or did I miss something. :dead:

[kennygeeze]

I checked today and it says Requirements Incomplete under art fundamentals, I already sent my transcript to OCAS and they received it. Does anyone know what went wrong or did I miss something. :dead:

You should contact the sheridan registrarr to find out why is says that.

[Aspectabund]

Hooray, conditional acceptance to art fundamentals received today. I didn't know I had to take the English proficiency test(s) though, as I am from the US and English is the only language I can speak fluently?
Sounds to me like you've been randomly selected! I heard they did this last year - pick random people from random courses and test 'em to see whether how well they speak English. Apparently some of the scores were surprisingly low last time.

[enrigo]

You should contact the sheridan registrarr to find out why is says that.

It turns out there's something wrong at their end where OCAS said they sent out the transcript but Sheridan said they didn't receive.

[Iroj]

I checked today and it says Requirements Incomplete under art fundamentals, I already sent my transcript to OCAS and they received it. Does anyone know what went wrong or did I miss something. :dead:

Hey guys, I'm brand new here, I'm a couple years out of high school and applying to Sheridan's Art Fundamentals and Illustration programs. Enrigo, my fundamentals application says the same thing. I'm from Victoria, and they said it takes longer to process-out-of-province transcripts. Are you from outside Ontario too?

[enrigo]

Yeah, Actually I have one international and one out of province transcript. But my case is that either OCAS or Sheridan screws up and they lost my transcript that were suppose to be sent around January. They got it now but I have to wait for the assessment again.:(

[Kozak]

Sounds to me like you've been randomly selected! I heard they did this last year - pick random people from random courses and test 'em to see whether how well they speak English. Apparently some of the scores were surprisingly low last time.

I just took art fundamentals this year and we had to take the english test also.
The reason being:

In your first semester you have to take a mandatory 'essential communications' course. The english test will determine if you will be placed in Essential Communications or Basic Communications (if you are placed in basic you have to take both basic and, upon successfully completing it, essential as well). I think my year was the first year this course has been mandatory. Apparently its supposed to help you in the workplace but, realistically, my friends and i found it extremely simple, boring, and redundant.

In fact you have to buy an 80$ textbook which you dont even use.
(you literally do presentations about 'how to change the colours in a powerpoint presentation) im not even joking. my topic was 'engaging the audience' and i had to talk to the class for a couple of minutes about how to keep an audiences attention. Someone else did a presentation about how to 'change the background colour on a powerpoint slide'

Have Fun :P

[alxcote]

Good luck in getting into your desired programs everyone. I remember the old days when endregan and I were 1st years, posting regularly and hosting Ca meetings at school... *sigh* (he doesn't even attend the Drink and Draws anymore!) I have a few months left before I graduate and it's finaly over.

Hopefully you can all get something positive out of the 4 upcoming years at Sheridan before you fly off into the industry. Always remember to be passionate and motivated outside of your classes! That's when you learn the most! Farewell!

~Alex

[SirGreenSock]

we wuv roo arex :3

please dont leave us :'(

[Taj]

when's the next drink and draw?

[enrigo]

OK, just to be sure. Do I need to do all 4 of the drawing tests ?

[kennygeeze]

OK, just to be sure. Do I need to do all 4 of the drawing tests ?

For illustration?

Unless they've drastically changed the requirements since I've seen them... then yes you do.

I think I wound up with 5 pieces for it. 2 for the still life and 1 for each of the other ones.

[Danuh]

Hello hello~
I'm a junior in a US high school and so far Sheridan is my #1 college. I plan on majoring in Animation. I went to visit Sheridan about a month ago (and needless to say, it was pretty badass) but I still have a few questions. :>

I'd like to also take a minor but I don't know what kind of workload I'll have with the Animation. What's offered for minors (if any at all) and is it doable?

For those who are already attending Sheridan, what are the pros and cons of the Animation program? Do you think they really prepare you for the future?

Are you able to learn 2D as well as 3D animation?

As an international student, do we get any benefits or are offered any scholarships?

How closely do they look at the SAT scores or is it mostly based off the portfolio?

I know that one has to send a portfolio meeting specific requirements to get into the animation program but is that all you need to send or is there more?

Any other thoughts you want to throw in would help too :D Sorry for the mass of questions. But I've been paranoid about college since the 7th grade x_x

[enrigo]

From what I've seen, they only need high school graduate with grade 12 English and about 60% average. I think the portfolio is the important thing that they are looking for.

By the way your sketchbook is pretty sweet. :)

[Iroj]

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knows if it's okay to do multiple drawings photocopied onto one 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper (mailing the portfolio in). I was thinking of doing this for the "interiors or exteriors of architecture" and the mechanical objects. I wasn't sure, since it says that "paper size is not to be smaller than 8 1/2 by 11 inches".

[Danuh]

Thank you enringo :D

Oh, one more question (I told you I'd be back) ~
Would AP credit transfer or do they not accept that kind of stuff?
(I heard that some colleges dont and that truly makes me weep)

[Gerard Sternik]

Hi Iroj....could you tell me which schools your applying to .....Sheridan, Seneca, Algonquin, Other?
It will help in terms of my being able to answer your question.

Thanks

Gerard Sternik
Animation Portfolio Workshop

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

[Iroj]

Hey Gerard, I'm applying to Sheridan's Bachelor of Applied Arts in Illustration program.

[Gerard Sternik]

You could put several object drawings on the same page if you make sure that you design the page well.
Overcrowding the page with drawings, shrinking the drawings down to sizes that makes them difficult to read..all of this makes for a bad time on the receiving end of things, ie for the person who's reviewing your portfolio submission.
It's the only impression that your going to leave with these people, so make sure it's a good one.
Legibility is important in terms of the way you present every piece.

I wouldn't put more that one interior or exterior view of a space on the same page, because those drawings tend to be more complex, and if you shrink a few down to fit them on the same page, you could run into some problems with overcrowding etc.

Also..triple check the portfolio specs...do they mention a particular number of objects, do they mention how many interior / exterior views, do they mention a limit of the number of photocopies you can submit.

In the examples I've attached, the object drawings have enough space around them to make them easily readable...in the character design page...although the drawings are good, it's getting a little crowded.
You can see that if you pushed the character design page a bit further, it would get to be unreadable.

Hope that helps.

Gerard

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

[Iroj]

Great, that helps a lot, thanks.

[Gerard Sternik]

You're most welcome....glad I could help.

Have a look at our website:

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students.html

and our blogs:

http://apwlifedrawing.blogspot.com/

http://apwcharacterdesign.blogspot.com/

to get more ideas on how to make some page layouts for your portfolio submission.

You'll notice a difference between the pages that are just straight out of a sketch book (generally more crowding of images), and the pieces that are for portfolio submissions.

Best of luck with it!



Gerard Sternik / Director

Animation Portfolio Workshop

[unnamed01]

Hi everyone I have a few questions regarding Sheridan, and Seneca's animation
program and the schools in genral

I'm applynig to Sheridan, and Seneca for animation and I know I have to go there for
some portfolio thingy in like 2 weeks and I was wondering...

1. Does Sheridan and Seneca need an interview or just portfolio drop off?

2. If there is an interview what kind of quesitons do they ask?

3. Does Sheridan need you to do a drwaing test like Seneca? (for animation)

4. For both Seneca and Sheridan I need to do life drwaings and object drawings.
Can I just 1 set and photocopy another set? Or is it better to do 2 different sets?
(ie. do 5 life drawings make photocopy, originals go to sheridan, photocopy go to
seneca?)

5. Anyone know how hard the drwaing test is for Seneca?

6. How hard is it to get into Sheridan's animation program? percentage? I have
a conditional offer for art fundamentals incase I don't get in. (my portfolio isn't the best)

7. Whats the tutition like for art fundamentals, and animation?

8. Will I have to buy a notebook/laptop?

9. I live in Toronto (markham) so does anyone know how long it will take to get Oakville
campus (Trafalgar) by bus/train/any kind of public transport? Google maps say its about +/-70km away.

10. Anything specific should be in my sketchbook?

11. What kind of portfolio cse should I buy?

Ok those are the questions that I have so far...maybe some mroe later thank-you~

regards,

[Gerard Sternik]

1. Sheridan is a portfolio drop off and pick-up on the same day.

Seneca is a drop off at an orientation session, with a drawing test.

2.No interview for either school

3. No drawing test for Sheridan anymore as far as I know.....
When I taught in the classical animation program at Sheridan through the 90's, we started to have drawing tests for students who were accepted into the program in the mid 90's, because one year it was discovered that someone had given portfolio's ( probably for a substantial amount of money) to a number of students who were all accepted that year, with the same great looking portfolio's.
Our co-ordinator noticed a few portfolio's that looked similar, and upon closer inspection found a bunch that were identical.
I think they discontinued the drawing test a number of year's ago.

4.We encourage all of our students in the Animation Portfolio Workshop to use their Sheridan portfolio drawings for Seneca as well.
Just make sure that your room drawings for Sheridan have the eye level at the 5' mark, and then you can use the same set for Seneca, minus the character.
Also re-use object drawings ....

5.The drawing test for Seneca, since the program has started has been the same:

One perspective drawing

One drawing of your hand

If you can draw, you won't find the test difficult.
It depends on your skill level.
Again, the drawing test is used to find out if you really are the same person submitting the portfolio that you hand in with your name on it.

6.It's hard to get in to Sheridan.
When I taught there, we had 2000 applicants and we accepted 125.

Your welcome to check out our workshop, if you need classes in making the portfolio.
We specialize in preparing students in making portfolio's for programs like Sheridan and Seneca, and that's all that we do.
We do it well.

Check this out:

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

a number of our students are from high schools, a number are in the art fundamentals programs of various schools, etc...

7.Tuition...you'd have to check online for that info for the sake of accuracy.

8. As far as I know the school should supply the hardware...
Again, I'd contact the school directly on that question.

9.Check with Go transit etc.

10. Sketch books not required for portfolio submissions.
Our students will often make compilation pages of drawings from their sketch books for the optional drawing section.

11. Seneca doesn't want the originals, 8.5 x 11 copies, so no worries there.

Get a case that takes the plastic inserts for 18x 24 " newsprint, that way you can use life drawings directly from the life classes your taking.

One of our students found fairly decent inexpensive cases at a place called Picasso Art supply, in Toronto.
Look them up in the telephone book.


12. We have two more classes left of the current workshop session.
Why don't you come in and have a look at the portfolio's that our students are preparing for Sheridan, and get some pointers from our students.
It's also good to watch as their portfolio's are being critiqued.
It would give you a better idea of how to proceed with your own.

Please call me @ 416 651 3658 line 1, or mail me @:

gerard@portfolioworkshop.com

to set up a time to come in.

Classes are this Saturday, February 16 from 10am to 5pm, and the following Saturday February 23 at the same time.

Also if you visit our blogs:

http://apwlifedrawing.blogspot.com/

http://apwcharacterdesign.blogspot.com/

It will help you to get a sense of the quality of work you need to get into a program like Sheridan, or Seneca.


Hope this helps.

Best of Luck!!


Gerard Sternik / Director

Animation Portfolio Workshop

[yashrg]

Wow! this is a really really long thread. I didn't go through all the 119 pages of posts but the last post was really informative.

[Lwang]

unnamed01:

The tuition for art fundamentals at Sheridan is a bit more than 3000 for the school year, while animation is a bit more than 6000.

I used to live near Markham as well, and transportation, by driving takes less than an hour, however if you were to take the bus/GO train, it would be the time it takes for you get to Union station + 45 minutes (on the train).

Also, I'm a current student taking Art Fundamentals as well as the Animation Portfolio Workshop (as Gerard Sternik has mentioned above). I'm applying for animation at Sheridan this year too. The workshop is really worth checking out if you're not sure how and where to begin in terms of studying drawing. I personally learned a lot through the several months of training there. (Plus made an awesome portfolio! haha)

Anyways, hope that helps

[enrigo]

For the drawing test, the one that says draw a group of people doing an activity , are they looking for gesture drawings ? and would it be OK if it looks pretty rough and sketchy ?

[kehrilyn]

First of all, my thanks to Mr. Sternik for all the wonderful information. If I could drop by the workshop, I would. T__T

With Sheridan's Animation portfolio day nearing...I'm starting to panic about the little things...

1. My hand drawings are done in Col-erase (is that okay?) and so are my character designs and room drawing; should I ink them or take a darker pencil and outline?

2. If I put all my life drawings (animals and human) into 18"x24" plastic inserts but keep my smaller drawings (character design) in a 11"x14" portfolio book, would that be alright? I would pack it all into a case.

3. Should animal drawings be on 18"x24" in the first place? @___@;;;

4. Should the character be static in the rotation? I drew my character in the same position but from the different angles, yet I see others have done their characters with their arms at their sides for the front view, and on their hips in the 3/4....for example.

5. I don't believe I ever got an answer to this previously in the thread...are mini rationales, artist statements, table of contents, resume...required?

Gah, sorry for all the questions! I'm just so nervous and I REALLY want to get into this program.

[Gerard Sternik]

Your most welcome...glad to be of help.



1.O.k....the hand drawing thing is a bit tricky, but usually this is because allot of students are trying to make their drawings look like "animation style" drawings in terms of the type of medium they choose...ie col-erase blue.

The folks at Sheridan are looking for great drawings, not col-erase drawings.
So whether you draw hands or rooms or whatever in graphite or col-erase...it won't make much difference to the adjudicators....as long as they kick butt in the drawing dept!
Now, we at the Workshop, always counsel the students to use the drawing medium that helps them make the best drawings....as long as your doing your best work with whatever your using.
And medium does make a difference.
Allot of students tend to tighten up with the col-erase medium.....
Sometimes if a student struggles with drawing in one medium, we just make them switch mediums,
This often times helps them to open up, relax more etc, which in turn usually produces a better drawing.

Be very careful about your decision to "clean up" the drawing.
Most students at your stage of the game tend to kill whatever gesture and life that the drawing has, in their attempt to "clean it up".

Instead, try to pull off a drawing that demonstrates the flow and gesture through its structural components, as opposed to thinking in terms of making two drawings-ie first the messy one, then the "clearer( read cleaned up) one.
It's hard to explain this in words..I'll post some drawings that demonstrate it for you.

2. Let's just say, some poor souls at Sheridan, have to look at several hundred portfolio's in a day .
Think about how it makes them feel when they can access drawings easily in a smooth flowing fashion, by just flipping pages.think of how you would feel if you were looking at the 199th portfolio that day, and you had to jump through hoops just to view the drawings.

Again we always tell our students this- make it easy to view and professional in appearance.
You'll leave a better impression that way.
Arrange all of your drawings in the one portfolio case so that the plastic insert pages just have to be flipped to view your stuff.
Don't make people switch portfolio cases in order to view all your drawings.

3.If the portfolio specs don't specify a size, pick one your comfortable with.
Just don't go over the max size dimensions, and don't make it so small that it's hard to read.
If they're great drawings, 18"x24" will look as good as 9"x12" or whatever.

4, Let me pass that question onto one of our Drawing for Animation teachers..
I'll forward this to them, and have one of them will post on this thread.

5.Check your portfolio specs carefully.
Read all of it!!
If the program wants a resume, they'll ask for it.
Don't give them what they don't want, just what they need.
In terms of the portfolio itself, we tell our students to make sure that their full name is on every single drawing in the set.
Imagine the potential for losing a drawing among all those thousands of drawings submitted along with yours.....
Our students also like to title each page in a tasteful manner (small in the lower right hand corner type of thing).
Hand drawing 1,2,Room drawing 1,2, Optional 1,2 etc...just to make it clear for the adjudicators.

The two example drawings that you see below demonstrate what I mean.
One is drawn in col-erase and the other in graphite.

Notice that both drawings possess a good feelling for gesture, and are able to express that clearly in the relationship of the structural components one to the other...no need to clean up.
Also notice how the drawings have been identified with name and title.


Also, have a study of the drawings I've linked to below that come from our website.
These demonstrate what I've been chatting about in terms of the unified gesture / structure blend.

Some col-erase some chalk, etc........

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students_file_01_after_10.html

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students_file_01_after_07.html

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students_file_04_after_17.html

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students_file_04_after_18.html

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students_file_08_after_09.html

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/students_file_11_after_05.html


Hope this helps.

If things don't work out for you this time with Sheridan, drop us a line.
We'll be starting our new session at the end of April.

Best of luck!


Gerard Sternik / Director

Animation Portfolio Workshop

http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

gerard@portfolioworkshop.com

[myke_bakich]

Hi Kehrilyn,

Im a recent Sheridan graduate and a teacher at the Portfoilio Workshop. Gerard asked me to answer your question about the character rotations.

When you do your character rotation you want it to be the same pose, from different angles (front, 3/4, side, etc.).

What they are looking for is the applicants ability to draw/design a character in one pose, from multiple angles and keep it structurally and graphically consistant. I feel the most important part is structural as its takes the proper approach and alot of experience/practice to do this well.

Keep the different poses for the "action poses" part of the portfolio.

All the Best,

Myke

[setsuna801]

Hi there I am from ottawa and I have never been to toronto, I might need to begin looking for appartments by the internet. I have some questions about the places etc. I need to know first is the school of sheridan is in the north, south, east, west of toronto or oakville( I think its a out as toronto)

and which streets are near

Trafalgar Road
1430 Trafalgar Road
Oakville, ON
L6H 2L1
905-845-9430
click here for campus page

I would like to have at least 10-15 min of walk maximum if I would like to go to sheridan or if I would take the bus It would be good to go there by only one bus.

So which street are near or connected to trafalgar road ? and then from this I will look for appartments and the buses that I can use

thanks

[Mattieau St.Cyr]

Hi . I go to Sheridan and it is west of toronto. If you're looking for places near the school there are listings at this site -> http://www.places4students.com/places/school.asp?schoolid=19

There are apartment buildings across the street from the school and alot of close housing. Trafalgar road is the main road so everything you'll need will be around there. If you have any other questions add me on msn ->Mattman123@hotmail.com

[setsuna801]

Thanks a lot man. I will keep you in my msn adress. By the way guys when ocas ask for official transcript do they mean the original copy of my transcript ? cuz In this case I would have to ask my highschool in montreal to give me my transcript cuz with me I only have a copy now that I am sending.

I don't want to act weak but I will need some help when I will arrive in toronto to learn faster how the bus system fonctions and the know were are the malls Cuz the first thing I wll need when I arrive is a job, For now I can check on the net but still I don't know the bus

[Ryn]

Thanks a lot man. I will keep you in my msn adress. By the way guys when ocas ask for official transcript do they mean the original copy of my transcript ? cuz In this case I would have to ask my highschool in montreal to give me my transcript cuz with me I only have a copy now that I am sending.

I don't want to act weak but I will need some help when I will arrive in toronto to learn faster how the bus system fonctions and the know were are the malls Cuz the first thing I wll need when I arrive is a job, For now I can check on the net but still I don't know the bus

I just sent in copies of my transcripts when I applied last year. They don't seem too picky on needing an original printoff with the indented school seal, etc.

Also, I believe that at the beginning of the school year the school coordinates some little seminars on learning the public transportation systems around here. It isn't terribly difficult to get used to everything once you get here, especially if you just go and learn first hand by traveling with friends who're more accustomed to the area. Either way, I wouldn't sweat it too much. :)

[setsuna801]

I callled them and they do told me they need a real copy so I sender my real copy and asked for my highschool to send me some other copys back so I keep them handy

[iven]

I see,......the Sheridan College is a very popular school in Ontario.

I introduce my self:

My Name is Iven 29, I came back from Toronto 2002. My Plan was to make a
Mediadesign school with all the Basicprogramms, I Focus my self on Flash cause
I knew I will do something with Animation. So I drew, drew and tryed my first
Animations by my self.

Now I made http://iveno.de

Iám looking for some other users here to change my experience,........!!!!

I am looking for some International or German speaking contacts here ?!
:lounge:

Do I have a Chanche to get into this Animation class,.....

I have very good Teamwork references, and did a lot of good jobs
here in Stuttgart,.........

[iven]

I´am curious about your impression and information
about this schools.

I really love 2D Animation, so I look more for this prioritize.
Can you tell me something about the prioritize from the listed
schools !!

My impression was that Sheridan have prioritize in 3D and Seneca
and MaxandMutt in 2D and 3D Animation !!

My be you´re a Student at the moment, can you tell me something
about my impressions I got from the website.

:bashful:

[John Doe]

Just handed in my Animation Portfolio so that's done, fuck yeah!

... Now I have to wait until March 31st grrrr...

And finish my illustration portfolio Gah!

Edit: Finished that too... Both courses look awesome.

[Liliwen]

Hi, I'm finishing up grade 13 since I've taken an extra year at high school, and right now I'm planning on going to Sheridan in September. I've already been accepted to their Visual and Creative Arts program, and I plan on exiting this program after the second year when I should have a visual arts diploma. Then I plan on applying to their computer animation course. I have a few questions:

Is the computer animation course hard to get into?
Might I be better off simply going to Loyalist College in Belleville and take the 3 year animation course they have there, which I've been accepted to already? Because I'm worried that I'll get my visual art diploma from Sheridan and end up not getting into their computer animation program, whereas I'd already be learning computer animation (amoungst other things) at Loyalist.

Oh, and after I presumably graduate from the computer animation course, do you think it would be hard to find a job?

Thanks in advance for any help whatsoever. :)

[2046]

Hey Guys, I spent some time looking through the whole thread (tediously long lol), thanks for all the valuable information listed. Just thought I'd register and start knowing some people :)

Just wondering who is applying for the illustration program this year?

I went to submit my portfolio on March 1st, and the lineup was long! I was a bit nervous when other people opened up their portfolio case, and I had a glimpse of some of their artwork, they were amazing :P I see some people trying to put together their portfolio at the last minute too :)

For the portfolio, I did option B since i think that's what they are looking for (fundamentals). All of them were pencil drawings except the one piece where they say "draw OR paint". I did an oil painting for that piece.

Anyways, love to hear what you guys drew and how your application process was this year.

Cheers!

Ken.

[enrigo]

Hi 2046, I am applying into Illustration this year. I sent in the portfolio by mail and I also did the option B but I didn't get to do any painting. :(

[algebra]

I applied to illustration this year also, and also did option b. I had 3 paintings in there, a handful of pencil stuff, a couple ink, and a couple charcoal. I mailed it in.

I'm so anxious to get my results!

[2046]

I'm wondering which other pieces did u do paintings for?

I recall calling Sheridan and asking whether i can use other mediums, and they said to stick to the instructions outlined on the sheet, which was to draw. So i asked if it means using pencils, and she said yes. Just wondering if that's really the case?

Ken.

[Ridz]

i did option a, i had a big jumble of different stuff. acrylic, watercolour, pencil, pencil crayon.. oh one oil one too.

[John Doe]

Ha... I just used pencils. Painting skills a bit sub-par. Option B for Illustration.

Was there the same time you were 2046. The line up gets long if you don't go early I guess. The tours were cool.

[2046]

John: Yeah I arrived at like 9:40ish. Pay the fees and lined up to submit my portfolio. There were tours? I guess I missed it. I just attended the information session.

[Maxine Schacker]

It's always good to know what's happening at other schools! We welcome you to visit Max the Mutt's open house April 17th-19th featuring 1st year student work. We are open from 10:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. daily.

On April 19, I will be teaching life drawing workshops introducing gesture, blind contour, and mass.
Ty Templeton will teach a "Comic Book Boot Camp," featuring Scripting, Comic Book Story Telling and Constructing Figures and Faces out of your head.

Call to reserve your spot 416-703-6877 or 1-877-486-MUTT.

We also suggest to our students that they visit Sheridan's open house. You will all be important to Canada and will work together in the future!
__________________
Max the Mutt Animation School 952 Queen St West Toronto (between Shaw and Ossington)

[amarryth]

Anyone on here going on the Italy trip this summer?

[algebra]

Anyone get word on acceptance yet?

[Ridz]

whats with the AccessSheridan website right now? it goes to some thing called SAHR production?

[sabrinasmelko]

does anyone know if we get the news TONIGHT at midnight, or tomorrow morn, or tomorrow midnight?
Joe Morse said midnight of the 31st... so I don't know?! Of course, he was probably joking, but I can't wait, so I'll just give into stupidity!

[A Nifty Guy]

Access Sheridan only says that "Offers of admission to programs that require portfolio assessment are issued beginning later in March 2008. "

So it could still be a while before we hear anything :\

[Ridz]

but joe morse said in the info session that it'd be today
soooo... hopefully!

[A Nifty Guy]

Hopefully you're right. Last year though a lot of people didn't find out until early April.

[John Doe]

Yeah... still no word. Which is annoying because since it's so damn close to the deadline I've been checking every day this week. In fact just now too.

Nothing!

[kehrilyn]

Argh, I agree that it's annoying.
So it's not here yet.... hope it turns up later tonight or maybe tomorrow.
But I don't know if I can go another week without pulling my hair out. :/

[Demonique768]

Almoooossst theeerrrreee

[kennygeeze]

Be patient guys :)

Access sheridan isn't always the most timely system of finding out stuff.

The results rarely ever seem to get posted all at once .. they'll probably trickle in starting today.

Most of the people I know from previous years who got accepted did not find out right on the day they said they'd release the results. Some of them were up to a week later.

I know it sucks, I went through it 5 years ago. :lifedrawing:

[Lwang]

I just received an email (both personal email and access sheridan email accounts) saying I got my offer for animation :)

[Alexashka]

Dear Alex,

Congratulations on your offer of admission to Sheridan!

Sheridan has chosen you to join our dynamic community, and we are very pleased to offer you admission to the Fall 2008 term.

An offer package from Sheridan has been mailed to you. We also invite you to visit our website to explore the services available to you at www.sheridaninstitute.ca.

Check your Sheridan e-mails folks :)

On a sidenote, nothing shows up on OASIS or ontariocollege.ca so maybe they're fucking with me and this is an offer of admission to Fundamentals even though I didn't apply for it, but hey. Nice I think this is it :)

[TristanR]

as of midnight mine says requirements incomplete. anyone else get this?

[Demonique768]

yeah i got requirements incomplete aswell. What does it mean

[A Nifty Guy]

I got the e-mail notification for Animation too! Still nothing on OCAS or Access Sheridan though.

Here's hoping it's not a cruel April Fools joke!

[Ridz]

oh good i'm not the only one, mines requirements incomplete too! i called and the woman i talked to didnt know why it said that, she told me to call again tomorrow and talk to the person in charge of the illustration admissions, so i'll let you know what i find out!

[bigmac996]

I got the email notification here as well, and no sign of anything on oasis/ocas too! I don't care though b/c I'm psyched!

To the people whose requirements say "incomplete" or something, did you take a U-level English in high school? I know some people who had a similar problem last year because they didn't, but they took it in the summer and were still allowed in the program.

[Ridz]

yes i took it, the woman helping me checked my marks and i said i had all the requirements, thats why it didn't make sense to her either.

[2046]

mine still says "Under Consideration" for the Illustration Program. :P

[TristanR]

just got an email this morning. Apparently they never received my transcript so i gotta fax it to them asap. But i was told my portfolio "scored successfully" and i have 4U English so it should only be matter of time!

[John Doe]

Weeeelll the good news is I got a response in Access Sheridan for the illustration program.

The bad news is I'm on the waiting list...

*sigh*...

[Alexashka]

Alright got Firm Admit at access.sheridan, WHHHOoooooo!!?!

Who's up for some beer and celebration?

[Ridz]

same!

[Ridz]

(to TristanR)
but they have my transcript now, i think they just have to recheck it

[Demonique768]

wow they are busy! I cnat seem to get through to the registrar at all. Same thing email wise. Portfolio successfull just something about the transcript they didn specify..

[sabrinasmelko]

I'm in!! OMG
But I didn't get it in my email at all, I had to check access sheridan!

[dubs]

Well, I got a firm admit into animation. Feeling pretty sweet right now.

Congrats to everybody who made it into their programs of choice!

[bigmac996]

I got firm admit into animation as well. Does anybody know what that means?

[Ridz]

haha it means you're in! congrats!

[TristanR]

still says requirements incomplete.... grrr (sent in transcript yesterday)

[Aspectabund]

I'm in animation too! Mine's conditional acceptance at the moment though, since I'm coming right out of high school so I need: diploma, last 4U credit (have three this semester, lol), 65% average overall. So I'm good, as long as I don't, like, fail everything spontaneously. XD

Hey, is anyone else here coming right out of high school? My two friends who applied got wait-listed. :|

EDIT: TristanR, it might not have updated yet. Just wait another day or two, or check again to make sure you aren't missing anything else. :) If nothing happens in a couple days, then I'd call 'em again.

[liquidtransience]

So who was at the Art Jam last night? It was pretty sweet actually. painting to that techno-ish music (I don't know what to call it, I fail) was actually pretty awesome. Probably would have been better if I was a more social person, though.

Nik, your portrait painting rocked it. That one you were working on near the end. Though, you may have started a different one after I left.

[Jonny Dark]

Congrads to everyone who got in! Now i just hope some of you decide not to go so that me and my waitlisted peers can take your spots. haha.

[Demonique768]

Jonny Dark lol who knows if my problem doesn get cleared up one of u wait listed might take my spot...

Heres hopin u dont tho :(

got my portfolio scores back now just need to clear up the transcript issue

[John Doe]

It'll probably clear.

[Animaniac]

A huge congratulations to everyone who got accepted! I was wondering if all of those who got accepted would be willing to post copies of their portfolios?

I would love to see where I went wrong, and what I need to do right in order to make it next year. :)

[Aspectabund]

@ Animaniac: I posted a fair bit in my Sketchbook - click the link in my sig. :)

[Ridz]

hm people who got accepted... did you get any sort of welcome package? i got my acceptance email, i got my portfolio mark, but a person phoning from sheridan said i should be getting a package that include an invite to the info session etc.. and i havent gotten anything like that. should i have?

[algebra]

This is really frustrating, as far as I know, still no letter for me today. I have called and they just say to wait for the letter, but having no word at all, even on the website is nerve wracking.

[Aspectabund]

hm people who got accepted... did you get any sort of welcome package? i got my acceptance email, i got my portfolio mark, but a person phoning from sheridan said i should be getting a package that include an invite to the info session etc.. and i havent gotten anything like that. should i have?
The only mention I got of it was an email I recieved previously for art fundies inviting me to it, as well as a phone call. Unless there was something in that nifty book thing with dividers that gives general information on Sheridan... but I don't think there was.

[Ridz]

i didn't even get a nifty book thing. did it come in the mail?

[Iroj]

A huge congratulations to everyone who got accepted! I was wondering if all of those who got accepted would be willing to post copies of their portfolios?

I would love to see where I went wrong, and what I need to do right in order to make it next year. :)

Heck yes! I got into illustration! Wicked exciting. Hey Animaniac, I've posted my portfolio here, http://jorib-illustration.blogspot.com/

Ridz, I got a nifty book thing in the mail, well, actually, I got two, one for Art Fundamentals and one for Illustration, but they're exactly the same and they just cover general Sheridan info. I received mine about a week after each acceptance notification.

[Jo.Enaje]

#7 on the waiting list for illustration, are my chances good??

[ivyfang]

hey everyone~im getting a conditional offer on my status....what is that mean?.....

[enrigo]

hey everyone~im getting a conditional offer on my status....what is that mean?.....

I think it means you get accepted if you finish high school and English course that is required. Congratulations !!

[algebra]

I wish I could do something to speed up the process so I could know what my results were. I still have no word from Sheridan about my admission status at all, and I called them on Monday and was told I still needed to wait; they are still sending out letters.

But man, I am so impatient. Haha. Congratulations on getting in, also, ivyfang.

[Kozak]

I've heard people say 'it's easier to switch from animation to illustration than vice versa'

Out of curiosity, if you wanted to switch from one program to the other (in the event that you are torn between the two programs and for example, choose animation but then discover it's not what you want and wish to switch to illustration) do you have to wait until you complete one full year of your program or is there a way to switch beginning of the year - mid-year? Also, do you have to go through the regular portfolio application process or would there be a different process since you are already in a BAA program?

[liquidtransience]

It's hard to say. I'm currently in first year Illustration and I had to apply again if I wanted Animation. There's someone in my class who either completed or withdrew from second year Animation and is now in first year Illustration.

It really depends now, grades may factor in even though your art skills may be good enough. However, if one was going to switch it probably -would- be easier to switch from Anim. to Illus. rather than the other way around, because the Illustration students most likely wouldn't know the basics of Animation yet.

I would discuss this with both the Animation/Illustration co-ordinators, though.

[TristanR]

so im not sure if i can make it to the info session on saturday. can somone who went last year tell me what its all about?

[kennygeeze]

Last chance to see the illustration grad show of 08.
Friday (today) From 3 - 10pm in toronto :)

http://www.sheridanheadlines.ca/main.html

[kehrilyn]

I got a Conditional Offer to (BA)Animation too, since I'm still in Grade 12.
Congrats to everyone else that got accepted! (And thanks to those that helped out in this thread, OMG I can't thank you guys enough.)

Yay, maybe I'll see some of you guys at the info thing tomorrow? Who's going?

[liquidtransience]

Last chance to see the illustration grad show of 08.
Friday (today) From 3 - 10pm in toronto :)

http://www.sheridanheadlines.ca/main.html

I was there on Friday. I was really impressed by a lot of the work. It solidified my decision to stay in Illustration. So much inspiration. Yay Interpretive in Sept. I can't wait. :D

[algebra]

This is ridiculous. I still have 0 word from them at all, and trust me, I've called quite a few times but I am consistently told from every person I talk to (whether it is in the registrar's office, illustration, or international) that I need to just wait for the letter. My accesssheridan still doesn't say anything new.

This is bothering me. Is there anything I can do aside from try my best to be patient?

[algebra]

Double post, but:

Finally! I finally got through to someone who didn't redirect me to another office, and I found out that I am first on the international illustration waitlist. It is just good to finally hear back, really.

[Maxine Schacker]

The odds are excellent that you'll be accepted. International students are valued, and it's almost inevitable that someone will have a change of plans! Good luck and I hope that Sheridan lives up to all your expectations.

[Iroj]

That's awesome, Algebra, congrats man! Hope to see you in September.

[ivyfang]

Double post, but:

Finally! I finally got through to someone who didn't redirect me to another office, and I found out that I am first on the international illustration waitlist. It is just good to finally hear back, really.

:drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup:

[TristanR]

anyone looking for a roommate?

[liquidtransience]

Just posting because I'm so happy I got into residence! I had to commute by bus this past year and it was quite annoying. I still went to many extra-life sessions and such, but I could never stay as late as I wanted (passed 11:30PM). Thankfully that's changed.

[Ryn]

Just posting because I'm so happy I got into residence! I had to commute by bus this past year and it was quite annoying. I still went to many extra-life sessions and such, but I could never stay as late as I wanted (passed 11:30PM). Thankfully that's changed.

Woah-dee. You were at extra life a LOT for someone who had to bus it. Kudos to you mate, you're a tank.

[algebra]

I just realized I am super late applying to res. I got distracted by all this "let's not tell algebra anything about anything regarding his future education" I am getting from Sheridan.

They still haven't told me if I moved up on the waitlist, although they said twice that they would call me, and I still don't have any changes on accesssheridan, no new emails, and no letter.

Ugh

[Maxine Schacker]

Don't you have alternate plans? have you applied to other schools?

Also: even if you don't get into residence if things are anything like they were years ago, you'll be able top find housing in the community surrounding Sheridan. People were always looking for roommates, and some families rent rooms or basement apartments.

[enrigo]

I just realized I am super late applying to res. I got distracted by all this "let's not tell algebra anything about anything regarding his future education" I am getting from Sheridan.

They still haven't told me if I moved up on the waitlist, although they said twice that they would call me, and I still don't have any changes on accesssheridan, no new emails, and no letter.

Ugh

I was late to apply for residence also, like less than 24 hours late.:ore:
Hope you get in after all this dreadful anticipation. :drinkup:

[Aspectabund]

Ah, you don't need to worry so much about the waitlist thing, algebra - you're almost guarunteed in, and they call for waitlisted people about openings up to five days into the semester, so the normal date of May 1st or whatever it was doesn't exactly apply 8D. My friends are #s 6 and 7 on the animation waitlist, so I heard this stuff from them when they called.

Anyway, I've got a place m'self, with the aforementioned waitlisted friends. They're going to fundies if they don't get into animation with me, so we found a nice condo right across the street. Figured we ought to get things sorted early so that we have less to worry about. :)

[Demonique768]

Oh Good Lord I want to kick sheridan in the butt.. They keep saying they'll change my status and then extending it to 'oh just wait till early next week'. all i can say is @#%RYTGREYGT%#$^REWF!

[algebra]

I finally got to talk to someone in international again, and my problems were sorted out. Now to wait for the acceptance call and to start looking for housing off campus, as I am too late for res. :\ Anyone need a roommate?

[Goddamn Turtles]

Can anyone comment on the Computer Animation/Digital Character Animation programs? I'm coming out of a BFA from a large public university and I feel like I need some much more focused training to work as an animator. I would basically be taking out some heavy student loans and moving up from the States, but I've heard their programs are pretty well-regarded so I'm wondering if it would be worth it.

[Demonique768]

A friend of mine just graduated from the 3D computer animation program. It's a one year program and work was hectic for her. She liked the program and she got some interviews after she graduated. Mainly its alot of what you put in to it as well. I often see the illustration and animation graduates from sheridan jumping in comp animation.

[Demonique768]

Oh they finally changed my status! Im in Animation! :D

[unnamed01]

Does anyone know how to sign up for that "Language Assessment" test thing? I go to the sheridan site and check if I can register but under "events" there aren't any...???

[liquidtransience]

Oh they finally changed my status! Im in Animation! :D


Congrats!

[enrigo]

I finally got to talk to someone in international again, and my problems were sorted out. Now to wait for the acceptance call and to start looking for housing off campus, as I am too late for res. :\ Anyone need a roommate?

Congrats man! I also need to look for an off campus housing too, it would be cool if we can be roommates.:hugsmile:

[FalconInverse]

Congratz to the Sheridan acceptees this year! :)

I didn't get accepted in to Sherimation this year :(
but I Did apparently get accepted into Seneca's animation program.. :)
go figure?? So i'm off to Seneca next year it seems..
I'm happy about that, but sad that i'm not returning to Sheridan. :)/:(

[Demonique768]

Anyone get their portfolio marks?

[kennygeeze]

Hey guys,
Aside from an actual graduation ceremony I'm now done Sheridan and its illustration program.

We had our big grad show at the end of April in Toronto. I snapped a few photos if you would like to see:

There were aproximately 79 of us -- so unfortunately I didn't get photos of everyone's displays. I ran around during take-down on the friday night and got as many as I could

I'll attach a bunch, but if you're really interested you can see 30 or so photos I took HERE (http://www.kenmccuen.com/graphics/other%20images/Illustration%20Grad%20Show%202008/)

[borism]

Hey if anyone needs a place, I am looking for two roommates.
These are some photos of my place. http://borisapartment.blogspot.com/
This is a link to my blog http://www.borismaras.com

Essentially I live across the street in a two floor apartment, have two spare rooms approx. $600 each. Which is cheaper than residence and you get a whole extra floor with a full kitchen (unlike residence).

If interested email me at borismaras@gmail.com
Thanks everyone!

[TristanR]

hey borism, are you looking for someone to live there the whole year or just the school year?

[borism]

The lease would be for 12 months.

[Alexashka]

Hey guys yeah I'm looking for a place to share close to school for the school year only, not 12 months.

Outside of residence but close to school. I'm going into first year illustration.

Send me a private msg if you are looking for a roomie we can sort out the details :)


Alex.

[enrigo]

Anybody here who can't attend the language assessment test ?

I wouldn't be in Ontario until almost September. So I phone in and leave the message about it as instructed, but I haven't heard back from Sheridan for quite a while now.

Risking not having a place in the communication class sounds scary :(

[Ryn]

Enrigo - I assume you're in fundies?

Generally if you can't take your assessment before the last 'official' day ends, you can just pay a fee to take it afterwards. But if you're getting there by early September, you should be good..
The cutoff date should be on the website somewhere - I remember seeing it last year when I applied. So you may be able to find it.
Goodluck!

[Aspectabund]

@borism: I looked at the pictures for fun and... is that the Villas? That'd be amusing - my two friends and I are rooming there. :D

[liquidtransience]

I'm curious, what was the whole Japan Exchange Program to Osaka University about? A lot of people I know seemed to have went and I don't fully understand what it's all about.

What is studied when there? Has anybody taken it before and was it a worthwhile experience?

[FalconInverse]

For interests sake.. Peter told us that this year there were 2 'perfect' scores on the animation portfolio..

I was wondering if anyone knows these 2 students (both of them were in second year of VCA, I think), and whether or not they are showing those portfolios on the net somewhere?

[Aspectabund]

Perfect? Whoo-ee. Now that's impressive. No idea who the guys are though, but I look forward to taking classes with them!

Er, which reminds me: what would the lowest range of "a really good score" be? I'm going in right out of high school, so I'm not aware of what the usual is, although I know that this year the minimum was 2.97. Just wondering what the previous Sheridan people have heard of people getting.

[Kozak]

I don't know about the perfect scores but i have a friend (I dont know if i should name her or not . . so i wont) who got like a 3.96 or something which basically translates into 99%. This didnt come as a surprise since she was easily one of the best artists in my Art Fundies class and was extremely devoted to becoming an animator.

[Demonique768]

Id tell u all my score but its kind of embarrasing now with 2 perfects and a 3.96.
Does anyone know how much a room costs around sheridan. Is it around 600 or the 500 range? I remember last year someone told me they got a room in a house close by for 550 but I cant find any for cheaper.

[Aspectabund]

*raises hand* My friends and I are rooming in a condo right across the street, slightly different price depending on room size: 550, 575, and 600 for small, medium, and large respectively (I'm in the medium). I couldn't really find anything decent for less though, although I found a less than decent for more. Go fig.

My mark was 3.60. :) I'm pretty happy, but it would appear that I need to work on my life drawing, lol. The only place I could find to life draw was this place like 20 mins away once a week, so at least I have an excuse. XD

[Demonique768]

Awh my object drawings sucked. my mark was 3.72.

how bout 490 but its all the way on third line. free cable,internet and parking tho i have to take a look.

[Aspectabund]

Hey, that's not a bad mark, you liar! :D I did well on my objects, but only because I took my time doing them... like, spanning several days, on and off. So I was slow, but it paid off in the end. Looks like you made up for the object drawings in other areas, so you probably beat the pants off me in life drawing, lol. Still feels a bit odd, knowing that I made it in...

Not a bad deal on the digs there, although it is kinda far away (if you're walking, that is). Mine includes utilities, heating, electricity and water, but I gotta pay for internet/cable/phone. That's not so expensive though, so I'm not too worried. :)

[Atazure]

Hey guys! I'll be in Second year this year and i'm looking forward to meeting all you freshmen :D First year was great and i'm sure that it'll show you if animation is what you really want to do or might get you interested in different aspects of the job (which are many ;)

[Demonique768]

HA yeah.... I took my sweet time for every Except the object drawing. Honestly I did it in the last day before portfolio. my life drawing was all 4's but I think they were on crack cuz i see soo many flaws.

I gt the place by third line :D

[Kozak]

I got perfect on my life drawings as well but my overall score was a 3.4 something (46 i think . .) I thought this was such a good mark until now .. :(

But seriously, it is very impressive that you all did so well!
It only makes me more excited to learn and work with such talented people.

[Aspectabund]

HA yeah.... I took my sweet time for every Except the object drawing. Honestly I did it in the last day before portfolio. my life drawing was all 4's but I think they were on crack cuz i see soo many flaws.

Looool! I got all 4's on everything in the character design section... I also suspect that the examiners were on a merry drug-induced romp whilst marking my crap. Or, we are all SUPAR GUD. 8D

Next year's gonna be so much fun. :)

[TheWishfulOne]

wow you guys must ofhad it easy..or sumthing... and btw.. i know one of the perfect scores =D she is a chinese girl whom i met during grocery shopping =D

I think the one who was marking your life drawings was either bobby Chiu or Mark Therman...they sooo godlike... you will seee what i mean once your in 1st year animation... god....>_> soooo godly.... sends chills down my spine

[enrigo]

Hey I just got the last transcript from high school. Do I need to send it directly to Sheridan or to the OCAS thing again ? I can't find much information on that on the website.

[Ridz]

I'm pretty sure you send it to OCAS. You can always just call Sheridan and ask them.

[Demonique768]

Hi Guys I just wanted to share some thoughts

I've been coming across some sites that pretty much diss sheridan and its graduates some just go against the faculty..

http://thinkinganimationbook.blogspot.com/2007/05/sheridan-animations-hugely.html

like this site for example... anywhoo I just wanted to say Sheridan is an awesome school but it wont make you amazing. It's a tool and like any other tool you have to use it and maximize your own potential. I would say school is maybe 40% but the rest is up to you.
Someone commented earlier that by our portfolio scores being high or decent that we must have had it easy but I think we just worked our asses off and as a result the high scores. I think if we just keep working our butts off we will maximize our potential. Sheridan has a reputation and we're there to use what they can give us (G'lord we pay enough!) use that reputation and launch off into the industry with force. Sheridan will help us for sure but like I said they cant do everything, like give us talent lol it's up to us to work hard.

Anyways! G'luck
Anyone going on that orientation day in aug sometime?

[kennygeeze]

Yeah, I saw a link to that one a long time ago. What were the other ones you came across?

[Demonique768]

http://mattsevensix.blogspot.com/2008/01/798-reasons-to-hate-sheridan-college.html

I came across one more but I cant find it :S
The funny thing is that none of these people give out their names.

[kennygeeze]

Hey Demonique! Thanks for the links.

Well, don't know what to say about the first guy really.

The second guy seems not very credible with claiming things like " we are at or near our saturation level in this country for productions financed, meaning there is only going to be 'X' amount of projects per year."

He offers absolutely no statistics, numbers or anything or prove his point. Which makes me think it's all personal speculation with an extremely lazy amount of research.

I highly doubt the co-op advisor told him to pay his students less. It's not logical.

My experience with co-op was the advisor I worked with actually pushed for more compensation than the business initially put on the table. *shrug*

[Demonique768]

Thats good to know I was actually a little worried about the internship. The guy claims he is an employer cept we dont know from where and yeah I doubt that sheridan would say "you dont have to pay them". I understand competition but thats just ridiculous.

[Ridz]

if anyone's still hoping to get into res, i was 107 on the waiting list and got a call this morning saying there was a spot available.

[John Doe]

Well I gave up hope after I was in the hundreds on the waitlist, may I shouldn't have.

<_< Goint to be living in a house apartment thing.

[Ridz]

yeah i didnt think it would get as far as me either, i actually just finalized a basement apartment earlier this week. i dont regret it though, even with paying for bus its cheaper than res.

[dubs]

At this point I'm going a tad crazy trying to find somewhere to live. I've given up finding a furnished place (hello Ikea futon) and I'm just on a mad emailing spree trying to find somewhere to live.

Anyways, I'm so frakking excited for Animation, guys. I got a 3.96 on the portfolio and basically had a seizure because I wasn't really expecting to even get in. I'm so pumped to get started, it's going to be a great year. :)

[Atazure]

okay, If you guys are still looking for places to live, i can ask some of my friends from what i can remember atleast two people were looking for roomates, i can check if they still are :mod:

[dubs]

Atazure, you are a hero! Thanks for the offer, but I've finally had things turn out for the better in my case and it looks like I will have a place to live pretty soon. Exciting stuff.

So is anyone going to go to Orientation? I went last year to the Fundies one and I didn't find it exceptionally helpful, but I'm thinking I should probably go this year just in case.

[RyerOrdStar]

I wanna go back to schoool :(

[aznsalad]

mhm just wanna say hi, My name is Roland, for the people who dont know me. I am a 2nd year animation student. I hope everyone is having a good time this summer and heres my msn for the people who wants to kill some time: Pinky_bluey@hotmail.com

[Atazure]

mhm just wanna say hi, My name is Roland, for the people who dont know me. I am a 2nd year animation student. I hope everyone is having a good time this summer and heres my msn for the people who wants to kill some time: Pinky_bluey@hotmail.com

Roland stop hitting on the first years, i'll tell on you to Charlene. :grandpa:

dubs: no probs i'm happy things worked out for ya.

woo, summer, is it as hot in Canada as it is in Europe?

[enrigo]

okay, If you guys are still looking for places to live, i can ask some of my friends from what i can remember atleast two people were looking for roomates, i can check if they still are :mod:

Can you check if your friends are still looking for roommates. I'm desperately looking for a place and any help would be much appreciated :bashful:

[Atazure]

Can you check if your friends are still looking for roommates. I'm desperately looking for a place and any help would be much appreciated :bashful:


Sure thing :)

[Jtho]

So the PDF document on the Sheridan website covering international tuition is a little confusing to me-- Is $19,000 the tuition cost of one year of the Illustration program or the total cumulative cost of the 4 years?

[Kozak]

I'm thinking $19,000 is probably the cost for 1 year.

I'm going into animation and it's close to $8,000 for 1 year (i am not an international student). Which means it will come close to $36,000+ for all 4 years combined. So im just assuming that $19,000 is too small an amount for 4 years. Also, one of my friends came to sheridan from Korea last year and she said her tuition / fees were double what ours were.

I still cant get over that, though. $19,000 a year is a lot.

[Demonique768]

19 a year!? Wholly Expletives!

[algebra]

Significantly cheaper than a lot US schools at that, too.

[Demonique768]

My conditional is now officially firm firmmmmm like an apple.

19 is a lot in 4 years

[Jonny Dark]

Just got word today that my "Waitlist" is now "firm Admit"

See you all in september

Now to find a place to live...

[Demonique768]

Hey guys I was thinking of having a little meetup or whatever like the previous Sheridan college members before us. Anyone going to orientation?

[Aspectabund]

*raises hand* I am. Despite many tours, I still can't find my way around the damn place. Besides, I hear we get cheeseburgers. 8D

[iven]

Hi there I want to apply for a scholarship, in Sheridan College for Bachelor of Applied Arts in Animation. I am 29years old, orphan and Canadian Citizen.

I have a 2 years education as a digital media designer, I am a self educated Person in Animation, here is my website http://iveno.de

Is there anybody who can give me information about scholarship for Sheridan College. Maybe there´re some links or experience on your own ?

I´ll come back to Toronto in 2009 (I guess) and I´ll choose Sheridan or Cenega College because they have very good
references. I don´t know what´s the best school in my case because I love Classical, 2D Animation and Stop-Motion.

[Aspectabund]

Hey Iven: after I applied for animation and got accepted, I received a couple emails on my Sheridan webmail account telling me what scholarships from Sheridan I was eligible for. In my case, it was Sheridan Student Entrance and Glenna Carr, although I still have yet to hear back from either of them. Also, you automatically get put forward for Sheridan bursaries, which you are given according to your need.

There are loads of others outside of Sheridan, of course, like some you get entered into when you apply for OSAP. Check out http://www.studentawards.com/ too. :) Hope that helped.

[dubs]

I'll probably hit up Orientation again, but only to get my ID card, eat the free food and to attend the academic orientation session for animation.

I made the mistake last year when I was going into fundies of attending all of the sessions and a lot of them were kind of a waste of time, 'here's how you use AccessSheridan'-type thing. Some could be useful for a student just out of high school who is trying to figure out the whole living away from home and budgeting correctly stuff, though.

But yeah, a meet-up for a bit sounds pretty sweet, I'm in.

[iven]

Thanks Aspectabund: I´ll send this e-mail:

Dear Sir or Madame,

I would like to apply for a scholarship, in Sheridan College for Bachelor of Applied Arts in Animation.
could you please give detailed information, what I have to do for my application.

Thank you very much for your help.
Kind Regards,
Iven Simonetti

to some Teachers from the Program and I hope they send me detailed info where I´ll apply !
I´ll also go through this website studentawards.com I hope that make sense, there are so many offers that I don´t believe they´re serious!

to dubs: Sorry my English is bad and I don´t really get what the AccessSheridan'-type thing is ???????

[dubs]

AccessSheridan is the website you use to access your schedules, your Sheridan e-mail, check your grades and applications. If you don't really understand it or you don't know your way around the school at all, you'll probably want to go to Orientation.

Good luck with the scholarships, iven! I hope that something comes your way.

[Kozak]

I have a group for First Year Animation Students (class of 2012) on facebook and from there there's an 'orientation' event.


http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19673427330


I know that my friends and i are just going to get IDs, Lockers, Books and stuff. Not actually going to the information sessions.

Also, Aspectabund - sheridan may seem intimidating (navigation wise) but you will get the hang of it very quickly. Soon you will know each hallway / shortcut like the back of your hand. Also, if you're going into animation you will basically just be in the A Wing / Main hall (caf, tim's , etc) and Bookstore most of the time anyway. :)

Im sure i will meet most of you at some point and if you are ever lost around the school and see me i would be more than glad to help you.

[Aspectabund]

Hah, yeah I've heard the same thing before about practically living in the one area. I used to be boggled by my high school's layout, but, uh, now I can't figure out why it was confusing. XD

TIMETABLES TOMORROW! 88888DDDD

Also, Nicole, I recall attempting to join that group before, but since I'm not a huge facebook person I was at a loss. I had already joined the Sheridan Tech group, so I guess I'm just dumb. :P Could you send me an invite or something? For some reason I didn't add you before, but I just did now.

[Atazure]

Alright guys so i asked around some of my friends, and haven't really heard anything about anyone looking for roomates, but since you guys have a facebook group you should maybe make a post there for everyone looking for places etc?

I'll keep asking and if i hear about anyone looking i'll definitely let everyone know.

Well...and besides there's always the Rabba apartments ;)

[Kozak]

This post is mostly for previous animation students:


I am going into first year of BAA - Animation and I am debating whether or not i should work part time during the school year?

The only obvious pros are - money

Cons - Diminishes time for homework, extra life drawing, etc.
- Added physical/mental pressure

What were your experiences with balancing the BAA - Animation courses with a part time job? or would you recommend avoiding working at all?

Any opinions would be helpful (from previous and current animation students)

[Atazure]

This post is mostly for previous animation students:


I am going into first year of BAA - Animation and I am debating whether or not i should work part time during the school year?

The only obvious pros are - money

Cons - Diminishes time for homework, extra life drawing, etc.
- Added physical/mental pressure

What were your experiences with balancing the BAA - Animation courses with a part time job? or would you recommend avoiding working at all?

Any opinions would be helpful (from previous and current animation students)


I myself haven't worked during the school year but from what I've heard from friends that have, it's really hard to balance working and doing your assignments at a satisfactory level. Most of the people i know that worked ended up quitting after the first term because it was too hard.

So, don't work, unless you really really have to. It's extra stress and less time to concentrate on your assigments. :lifedrawing:

[Demonique768]

Mondays off.
yay.

[RyerOrdStar]

Just picked my first elective Intro to Short Story. Should help me with my narrative illustrations.

No days off though blech :(

[Demonique768]

Hey guys (first years) whats your schedual like? I might be in some classes with you. Does sheridan have a map online?

[dubs]

Alas, demonique, no days off for me. I've got the same schedule as the other Nicole who posts here. I think a lot of classes share the same Visual Concepts lecture, though.

And here's a map for ya, though it isn't much good if you're looking for something specific like classrooms:

http://www1.sheridaninstitute.ca/corporate/Trafalgar_Campus_Map_2008.pdf

[John Doe]

Going to orientation.

Checking up the schedule I didn't have the two classes that the English test thing was suppose to determine.

Doing a bit more research it turns out only the people who are going to fundies have to take it (got in illus through the waitlist whoo).

Which means I took that test for no good reason, bah.

[iven]

I think about this offer from the http://www.portfolioworkshop.com/

Does here anybody already joined the Prog. or my be there are some other offers for Portfolio Workshops you would recommend.

Could you tell me something about this Portfolio Workshop.

I´ll apply for BAA- Animation for 2009

[Demonique768]

Iven that looks like they're aimed for portfolio requirements. If you think ur skill level isnt where its at then for sure it looks helpful. I've heard of people taking it and they got in so if you think u need it...

[iven]

Thanks, Demonique768, I guess I am not so good in Life Drawing (go to my Critique Thread)
but compare it with my references in Flash and and take a
look to my website, sketchbook etc.

Anyway They´ll pimp up my Art Skills,.......and help me to finish some Portfolio
peaces !

[Amazing Action Ape]

Anybody that said working part time during first year animation is too hard, is a fucking pansy. I worked 3 days a week during my first year, and had plenty of extra time to spare. If you work smart, the program is a breeze.

Damn I feel old. Hehehe

[Atazure]

Anybody that said working part time during first year animation is too hard, is a fucking pansy. I worked 3 days a week during my first year, and had plenty of extra time to spare. If you work smart, the program is a breeze.

Damn I feel old. Hehehe

You pansy. :3

BTW, are you coming back?

[Amazing Action Ape]

I am a pansy. LOL Yes, to finish what I fucking started :P. But I will not be tutoring, as I will be working 3 - 4 days a week this year at my part time job. Ladeeda.

[Atazure]

I am a pansy. LOL Yes, to finish what I fucking started :P. But I will not be tutoring, as I will be working 3 - 4 days a week this year at my part time job. Ladeeda.

You're not tutoring?? D: Who oh who will teach me to look at naked people the right way?? I guesss that can't be helped, i hope you'll have fun at the new job!

Can't wait for the new year to start! Do you guys know already what groups you're in?

[5coop]

hey can anyone link me to some student work in the animation department? i havent been able to find any im pretty curious....

[iven]

hey can anyone link me to some student work in the animation department?

You´re looking for Sheridan Animation examples ?!

http://sheridananimation.blogspot.com/

[Demonique768]

Hey people just a quick question. Is the orientation on Thursday or Friday? the website says Thursday but I was told it was Friday. I am confused.

[thomasaurus]

You could manage a part-time job in the first two years, but it'll just keep getting busier as it goes along. Manage your time and you can pull it off.

One week kids. Y'all ready?

[Atazure]

Wooo wet free burgers :D

[algebra]

I have been here since wednesday. I'm in res woo. My dad just left today at like 4 so now I'm all on my own, 500+ miles from home :) Even though I was told I was #1 on the international waitlist for illustration I did not get in, so I am in art fundamentals. (Trust me, you don't need to tell me how frustrating it is)

My roommate moves in tomorrow, I'm pretty excited.

[Demonique768]

Algebra a friend of mine got in a week after school started last year being on the wait list. Art fundamentals is still fun tho!

[TristanR]

ATTENTION 1st YEAR ILLUSTRATION STUDENTS!

I'm hoping one of you guys can help me out. Its kind of long story but essentially i cant get on my access sheridan account and as a result can't see my schedule. Now the thing is i did see it last week while i could still get on access sheridan and i remember i had Ted Zourntos for life drawing from 3 to 6 on thursday or possibly wednesday and i had classes 5 days a week. From what i understand all the first years are split into 4 groups and take all the same classes together so if you have a schedule like the one i described could you tell me what and where the first class in on Tuesday? This is a long shot but i really don't want to wait in line at student services on Tuesday because I'm sure it'll be a mad house and I'll miss my first class and of course the schools closed today so i cant call.

[Ridz]

ATTENTION 1st YEAR ILLUSTRATION STUDENTS!

I'm hoping one of you guys can help me out. Its kind of long story but essentially i cant get on my access sheridan account and as a result can't see my schedule. Now the thing is i did see it last week while i could still get on access sheridan and i remember i had Ted Zourntos for life drawing from 3 to 6 on thursday or possibly wednesday and i had classes 5 days a week. From what i understand all the first years are split into 4 groups and take all the same classes together so if you have a schedule like the one i described could you tell me what and where the first class in on Tuesday? This is a long shot but i really don't want to wait in line at student services on Tuesday because I'm it'll be a mad house and I'll miss my first class and of course the schools closed today so i cant call.

my schedule doesn't match that but my friend's schedule has life drawing from 3-6 on thursday, i dont know what the teacher is though. here's his, i can't guarantee it's the same as yours but you'll probably know if it looks familiar.

monday- 8-11 drawing and painting 1
tuesday- 8-11 drawing and painting
12 - 3 composition and rhetoric
wednesday 8-11 computer studies
1-4 basic design
thursday 3-6 life drawing
friday 8-11 conceptual process

hope that helps!

[TristanR]

yep that's definitely it. I don't suppose you know what room drawing and painting is in on Tuesday? If you could ask your friend or put me in contact with them it would be a huge help. I don't like to impose but i think trying to figure this out tomorrow morning will be a nightmare.

[Ridz]

i sent him a message, i'll let you know if i get an answer back tonight.

[John Doe]

For tuesday 8:00 to 11:00 I have drawing and painting on A133.
Composition and Rhetoric at E103 and then at 2:00 move to E207G

And hey, you seem to have the same life drawing class as me too A133.

Actually our schedules seem to be the same. See you in drawing and painting tomorrow :).

All at once:


monday- 8-11 drawing and painting 1 -A138
tuesday- 8-11 drawing and painting - A133
12 - 3 composition and rhetoric - E103 and then E207G
wednesday 8-11 computer studies - J319
1-4 basic design - A137
thursday 3-6 life drawing - A133
friday 8-11 conceptual process - A137

Edit: Made a mistake on computer studies J319, not J139, fixed.

[TristanR]

thanks man, i eventually found my drawing and painting class (i was the guy who came in last) and then i came home thinking i was done and saw your post and rushed over to composition and rhetoric

[algebra]

Aw man it's so weird being in a new place, I am so bad at talking to people haha

First class was okay. When does extra life drawing start? I've never done actual life drawing before, I want to get some done asap. (especially since I am in art fundamentals and I don't have it as a class)

[Kozak]

Algebra - I know animation's X life drawing starts next week (September 8th) which is probably around the same time Illustration / Art Fundies will start.

Keep your eyes open for schedules posted on / around life drawing class doors.

[liquidtransience]

Yeah, extra life starts next Monday for Illustration/Art Fundies, too. My painting instructor said there will be papers around the departments by Friday.

[enrigo]

Hey guys, I'm also in art fundamentals and I just arrived in Ontario yesterday. Would be cool to meet some of the people on CA at Sheridan. My name is Thien by the way. :drinkup:

[Demonique768]

Hello Thien! how are u enjoyin fundies?

[SoulHacker]

Anyone here attending Art Fundies an January ?

[Alex Chow]

Sorry to bump this thread. I'm sure everyone is having a great time at Sheridan right now and I'm trying to get into Sheridan next year.

I'm starting to make my Illustration portfolio now (probably Option B since I'm almost sure my accepted OCAD portfolio from last year won't get me in) and I just have a few questions regarding this. Some may be repeated from previous pages but I either need clarification or I missed it (I just skimmed through all these pages).

a) EDIT: I had a dumb question here since it was answered on the first page. I'm going to assume Sheridan does portfolio interviews similar to OCAD where professors will go face-to-face with me. Am I right?

b) "Draw a self-portrait" was indicated in Option B. If I paint it, will the instructors mark me as an Option A guy? I have to make sure because I would prefer to do a "motified Option B" Option A if they are very strict in terms of which mediums can be used for each assignment (as in, seperated between "drawing" and "painting"). Does anything change in marking criteria between Option A and Option B? I definitely will "draw" my drawing tests, though.

c) Ryn, a year ago, placed her portfolio here and I believe one of her works was digital. As with my OCAD portfolio, I want to place a digital work in there. Will they automatically look down upon it before even evaluating the quality of the work? If they do, I'll avoid making any digital works at all.

d) "Draw mechanical objects" was indicated in Option B. Does it imply that for this option specifically, I should have various pieces of paper with different objects on it? Do I draw various objects on a single piece of paper? Same goes for " Draw interiors or exteriors of architecture (e.g. school, church, mall, your room etc.)."

e) "Draw a group of people observed from life in a surrounding that tells us what they are doing. Suggestions include a sporting event, a party, the mall or people dining. Do not copy from photographs." How does one approach this drawing test? Do you sketch out the scene, bring it back home, and "fudge" out the details? People tend to move very quickly and I've always questioned this one.

I know you're all busy drawing and painting and this thread has been dead for 2 weeks. I'm not in any hurry for these answers since I have 4 free months to make a hopefully good portfolio. If anybody, in Sheridan or someone with the knowledge, has time to answer these, I would greatly appreciate it. If any of these have been answered beforehand, I apologize since I may have missed it skimming through 125 pages.

Thanks in advance.

[kennygeeze]

a) EDIT: I had a dumb question here since it was answered on the first page. I'm going to assume Sheridan does portfolio interviews similar to OCAD where professors will go face-to-face with me. Am I right?

Unless things have changed, then No, they won't. You drop off your portfolio by a certain time, they put it on a trolly and bring it to a room you never see. You come back later in the afternoon and pick up your portfolio.
You'll have no idea how well you scored until a month later, and there'll be no indication anyone even looked at the portfolio other than *perhaps* the pieces being in a different order than what you originally submitted. You won't meet the people who mark the portfolios and if you get in you'll have no idea what teacher happened to be the grader for it. There's something like 1200 applicants the year I got in so obviously they can't sit down with everyone and 'interview' :P

b) "Draw a self-portrait" was indicated in Option B. If I paint it, will the instructors mark me as an Option A guy? I have to make sure because I would prefer to do a "motified Option B" Option A if they are very strict in terms of which mediums can be used for each assignment (as in, seperated between "drawing" and "painting"). Does anything change in marking criteria between Option A and Option B? I definitely will "draw" my drawing tests, though.

Although doing a painting would probably not cause you to be lumped into the different option... if it says 'draw it' then do a drawing. 3rd year/4th year you can start messing with the rules and it's a little bit more ambiguous what separates a drawing from a painting... but 1st year is very strict so follow the guidelines to the letter.

c) Ryn, a year ago, placed her portfolio here and I believe one of her works was digital. As with my OCAD portfolio, I want to place a digital work in there. Will they automatically look down upon it before even evaluating the quality of the work? If they do, I'll avoid making any digital works at all.

Don't submit any digital work. You aren't even allowed to do digital work outside your computer class until the latter part of second year. You may as well paste it into your sketchbook if you want... I had a couple digital pieces in there. I've heard the drawing teachers in the information session on 'how to get into the program' way back when were saying 'no digital'. I assume those guidelines haven't changed.

d) "Draw mechanical objects" was indicated in Option B. Does it imply that for this option specifically, I should have various pieces of paper with different objects on it? Do I draw various objects on a single piece of paper? Same goes for " Draw interiors or exteriors of architecture (e.g. school, church, mall, your room etc.)."

Since it doesn't specify just use your best judgement.

e) "Draw a group of people observed from life in a surrounding that tells us what they are doing. Suggestions include a sporting event, a party, the mall or people dining. Do not copy from photographs." How does one approach this drawing test? Do you sketch out the scene, bring it back home, and "fudge" out the details? People tend to move very quickly and I've always questioned this one.

Draw in a subway, on a train, or in a restaurant where people keep relatively still for a short period of time. They expect the drawings to be semi-loose and gestural in most cases since 'yes, people do move around.' If the piece is rediculously refined then they'll know you copied from a photography .... or you have magical powers and were able to stop people in time. Check the threads around this site where people do alot of public drawing. I noticed when that assignment does eventually come up later in the program some people often juxtapose refined architecture (since architecture shouldn't move) with gestural figures.

I know you're all busy drawing and painting and this thread has been dead for 2 weeks. I'm not in any hurry for these answers since I have 4 free months to make a hopefully good portfolio. If anybody, in Sheridan or someone with the knowledge, has time to answer these, I would greatly appreciate it. If any of these have been answered beforehand, I apologize since I may have missed it skimming through 125 pages.

[Alex Chow]

...or you have magical powers and were able to stop people in time. Check the threads around this site where people do alot of public drawing.


...I think I do. I'm a wizard in real-life :P

It does make a lot more sense; I do a lot of subway sketches and I may have put too much thought into the description. I kept thinking "Oh noes Sheridan portfolio! Everything must be absolutely perfectly rendered!" and then I read that description and panicked.

The portfolio process caught me by surprise though. I was confused since the guidelines mentioned "portfolio evaluation" and, technically, my OCAD interview earlier this year was an evaluation. I guess every art school is different.

Thank you for the quick and detailed answers. I did not expect somebody to answer so quickly. I actually thought it would take a few days before I really start on my portfolio pieces but having the response after an hour is awesome. I guess I can start now.

EDIT: Okay, one more question. Where do life drawings fit into the portfolio (Option B)?

[kennygeeze]

That was the big question I had in fundies when I applied... lots of people had that question.

Possible answers included 'small collection of life-drawing work (10 pieces showing a variety of times 1 minute to 1 hour) stapled in the corner and submitted as one piece.

I just put mine in a small card-board folder pinched together with a bull-dog clip so they could spread them out if they needed to.

What's option B? The one where you have set assignments to follow? I forget which one's which. If so then I'd say just submit a small package of life-drawings as one of your sketchbooks? Or just submit it as a bonus piece. I doubt they'd penalize you for including them... especially when the past 15 portfolios they've looked at are full of anime and colored work the applicant didn't even draw.... then they get to yours. Extra life-drawings? I can't say that as being a big deal.

But i'm not an evaluator. I'm just a graduate... so I may not know what I'm talking about. Been a while since I applied, heh.

[Demonique768]

If you're applying to animation i put in a page full of 30 second gestures into my personal pieces.

[liquidtransience]

Tristan, if you still post here. Do you go to Illus. Extra-Life a lot? I'm in second year Interpretive and go a lot and I notice a few first year regulars. I'm wondering who someone is and maybe you're them...wow this is worded horribly.

[Alexashka]

Hey Amaranth,

Looking through your sketchbook thread - don't even sweat getting in. I would suggest banging out a lot of non-digitals though because as someone else mentioned - digital work is not looked at.

So while it's great that you're doing composition studies etc digitally - I'd suggest doing most of it using a sketchbook because a sketchbook is one of the mandatory pieces. Why do it on the computer and then not be able to use it if you can do it using a pencil, be quicker about it and use it for your portfolio?

The few portfolios I've seen of the folks who got into illustraton - they are very loose and mostly unfinished. Very outline-ish and not much shading at all. Then there was me who had no outlines and all shading, coming from a fine arts mentality. I got a 77/100, the friends of mine who did less finished work that it took them probably 1/5th of the time to complete got higher grades so it's more about your ability to DRAW and draw quick. Painting is extra and I'd argue even unnecessary - unless it is your strong point.

So as long as this is what you want to do - don't sweat any of it, you'll get in. Stick to traditional media though :)

Liquid - Tristan has been at life drawing pretty much everyday, so have I the past week :P Hit me up in private with your name/photo and I'll introduce you to the first years next time I see you.

[Alex Chow]

So as long as this is what you want to do - don't sweat any of it, you'll get in. Stick to traditional media though :)


Thanks for the encouragement and tips. Yes, I am going to stick with traditional media and maybe my sketchbook is not the best indicator since I got lazier and lazier with updating with traditional pieces (just the process of getting them in is not worth the effort).

As for drawing quick, I am going to Bobby Chiu's subway sketching every week from now on in order to get faster drawing in public. I am including one painting (the still-life) as a means to show my understanding with colours and the medium which, I hope, won't hurt. If shading isn't the best indicator for drawing ability, I will not shade the pieces where another skill is clearly going to be evaluated (for example, the architecture drawing pieces are obviously going to be evaluated on the understanding of perspective which outlines can indicate much clearer).

And I'm always sweating :) because I'm in a situation where I kinda have to get in or else my family will crap on me but, in the back of my mind, I know if I work hard, I will get in.

[darth massacre]

Hey guys - if anyone is still following this thread when school starts - I'm moving out of Canada and headed back home, some business opportunities came up. Got lots of loot that I need to let go of due to the incredible prices of shipping them back. Help a guy out. I'm still in Oakville near Sheridan college campus, some of you guys might even live in my building, so I'm fairly accessible. Check the link below to see the list of loot that are up for sale. You guys should try emailing me instead since I rarely pop up in CA.org. On that note, if anyone tried to PM me and not receive a reply, apologies for the non-activity on the forum.

ITEMS FOR SALE!!! (http://www.teo-ology.com/PDFs/sale.xls)
The file is an excel spreadsheet - email me if you're interested and its not working for you.

Email address is as follows: sabrtoof@hotmail.com

If I don't know you personally I won't hold the books for you, so move fast if you see something you like - email me and ask so you don't waste a trip. Payment methods: Cash, email transfer or paypal (in order of preference). Edit: Forgot to add, I'm only here till 30th October.

One last reminder - EMAIL ME FOR QUESTIONS - no need to clog up the thread with off topic posts


Admins - do let me know if this thread is against policy. I haven't seen a buy sell thread in CA.org for a while now so I posted this here.

[Alex Chow]

Sorry bothering y'all again.

My portfolio is shaping quite nicely but, obviously, I'm posting because I have a question.

I uploaded one page of one piece of my portfolio asking me to draw mechanical objects. Right now, I have the objects inked and the construction lines intact. However, I don't know if I should:

a) Leave it like this.
b) Erase the construction lines.
c) Erase the construction lines and use cool grey markers for shading.

Every one of these options have their advantages and disadvantages. Sheridan-ers, what do you propose? I thought long and hard but it's really tough to conclude which option will demonstrate my "mechanical object" drawing skills the best.

Thank you in advance.

[amarryth]

it's tough to say on this one.... i always suggest getting photocopies and playing around with those... i always worry about working too far into something so i like this method.. see what you like best, maybe post here as well and see what others say? it's been a while since i applied as well, most of my portfolio is in my sketchbook on here... i don't think i did any technical drawing - i kind of chose to get inspired by part b, but i submitted as part a.. it's not like those things weren't allowed in part a, and then i got to leave out what i wasn't as strong at.. it's great that you're working away at this already..

good luck!