2009.5.18 why's my thumb not working

[Sung-jae Kim]

Hello, starting up a sketchbook
PLEASE critique. Compliments are nice, but critiques are better.
Feel free to say whatever comes up to your mind.

I'll post some stuff in order.

(First post will be just an image dump of what I've done so far!)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0001.jpghttp://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0002.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0003.jpghttp://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0004.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0005.jpghttp://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0006.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0008.jpg


The above posts took anywhere between 2 days to a week to do.
(3 hours a day excluding breaks)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Creatures/RandomMonster001WIP2.jpgWIP

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0009.jpg
1.25 hrs

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0010.jpg
2.5hrs

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Still%20Life/StillLife0001WIP.jpgWIP (?)
probably around 4hrs so far :|

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Gestures/Gesture0001.jpg
2.5hrs?

The last one (in particular) took much more time than I intended it to. :|
I hope to be much faster! (eventually).

Crit away!

[Lakka]

Hi, the images are not showing, I suggest you use the inbuilt feature of adding attachments to your posts here on the forum.

Happy sketchbook opening day 2 u :hugsmile:

[Sung-jae Kim]

Haha, thanks.

Didn't realize blogspot wouldn't let you hotlink their enlarged images.
Oh well. The links should be fixed now.

[Seage]

Nice work so far. I really like the tonal life drawings at the top. But one thing is, dont skip out on the hands like I do. I say take some of the poses and focus on nothing but the hands and feet just to get used to drawing them, then move out to the hand and arm in different positions. Im actually planning to do this next lifedrawing session.
Also, watch some of your proportions. The rendering is nice, but it cant hide wrong proportion. Hope I helped :)
(wish I could crit my own work like this, lol.)

[Sung-jae Kim]

Seage -Thank you! Will definitely try to get the hands/feet and drawings (in general) correctly. Drawing is definitely the biggest issue I have at the moment :|

[Envisor]

Wowza! You have improved as well. Really nice values in the figures. The digitals are sweet. Nice colors in the manakin hand, I would like to see more Sung-Jae. Oh, I would really to see the weird creature dude painted. My only crit is to finish the faces in your sketches, right now, they're just ovals atop of these complex figures. More please! Its nice to see you started up a sketchbook again.

[Ken Aschliman]

Good to see some more of your work, Sprung!
My criticism on the figure drawings is that parts of each drawing are unfinished. I think its a good idea to apply value to everything generally, then focus the detail on the parts that are important. Using that method, whenever the pose is over, you have a finished-looking drawing. Your figure drawing that says 1.25 hours is a good way to start. Also, you should try working on a toned paper, adding darks and lights to it.
I like your line drawing thing.

[Jacky-Boy]

Awesome work man, I'm really digging your life studies. Personally I feel that your colour study of the hand is your weakest piece. If you're working from a photo, I would definetly try and go back to that and tighten up some of the forms and detailing.

[thespianmonsalvo]

Your digitals are really nice - would like to see more from you. One of the things I noticed in your sketches is that you seem to get caught up in rendering the shadows and not spend enough time perfecting all of the figure. Knowing where the light is hitting and how it helps to create the form's shape is good, but that could be simply implied rather than spending most of the effort of the piece on it.

[Sung-jae Kim]

Envisor - Thanks Eric. Can't believe you never found my blog =p I avoided the faces in the last img since I only wanted to try posing the bodies from my head. (Trying to avoid heads from my head to avoid the same face syndrome.) I'll definitely try to draw heads when I'm doing copies though :)
Ken Aschliman - Thanks Kenny. You're definitely right about the unfinished parts. Hopefully the one I'm working on currently will be more uniformly finished. (started using regular pencils again, instead of those lovely mechanical pencils)
Jacky-Boy - Thanks for the critiques. The hand thingy was done from life. I'll try to go back to it (I moved the hand a little while moving my cup unintentionally but I think I have it in the right position again)
thespianmonsalvo - Thank you. I'll be working on drawing instead of the rendering during most of my spare time.

Unfortunately, no real update today (feeling really really sick right now), but I did do some work at the art students league, so I'll probably be posting them in the future.


Thanks for visiting :) (And feel free to leave any critiques!)

[Zirngibism]

Woah, a sketchbook with non-deleted sketches! :tihi:

I can't really say whether I think you're inproving or not since I've barely seen any of your stuff, but I can say that you've got some great life drawings here.

A couple of them seem to have proportion issues (too-large head, for example and the first guy's elbow looks kinda rubbery) but others seem to be just about dead-on-- oh and you've got great values going on.

You should post some of your landscapes- I saw you working on one last year at Shott and it looked great from where I was standing.

[Sung-jae Kim]

Zirngibism - Thanks Kirsten. But I doubt you'll be seeing any environments from me for a while :P

Just another figure drawing.
I think I need to start using better paper and regular pencils through out these drawings to actually get it looking finished.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/0012.jpg
(9hrs? :| took way too long for something like this I think.)

[FightingSeraph]

Nice life drawings, and have you considered doing character design of some sort?

[Envisor]

Yeah, yeah, yeah! Go Sung-Jae. This last one, the model must of been a feminine looking male, or a masculine looking female. Cant tell, I think I see you starting to draw in the genitals, but I think it's better if its a mystery. Try working on toned paper, or graphite powder to cover your paper before you draw, so you can lift out lights, and add to get your darks. keep posting.

[Sung-jae Kim]

FightingSeraph - Thank you. I do consider it and I definitely want to do it. But before I jump into it, I would like to focus on anatomy just so I can put on the clothes properly on my chars :P
Envisor - lol. He's a male alright :p What I've been doing is definitely slow as hell and I think I'll try the graphite/charcoal powder suggestion for the next drawing. Wish me luck :p

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Sketchbook/0001.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Sketchbook/0002.jpg
Just some quick sketches.

Anatomy's tough one alright :o

[Alvaradolol]

The mannequin palm and forearm on the digital painting looks flat. And on some of the longer drawings (the last one) you need to kill sparkles, I think that would make it look much less sloppy.

[niyama]

yep i agree with alex KILL SPARKLES!
i see a shit tone of improvement sprung, i'm highly impressed
personally i like the mannequin arm, hope you finish that.
but other than that i feel that your figures from life are pretty rigid unlike your more freer gestural drawings (the last picture in your first post)
i don't know, tell me if i don't make sense, but now i'm an assistant drawing teacher. @_@

[Sung-jae Kim]

Alvaradolol - I guarantee you no sparkles on the drawing I'm working on now :D (if there is, blame the camera :P)
niyama -Thanks Simone. I don't see the mannequin thingy getting finished any time soon since most of my school crap is just copying stuff anyway :( I see what you mean by the figures looking rigid, I'll try to tackle that somehow :o And assistant drawing teacher? :O Who's class?

Just a sketch on the subway
Wish I could do more sketches on the subway but it's hard getting a seat (and I get on the express train which shakes a little too much IMO....the top 3, including the unfinished ones were done on the local trains and the bottom ones [not really shown] were done on the express :|)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Sketchbook/0004.jpg

and 1hr figure drawings (again ;\) Same guy, but I tried exaggerating the muscles the second time.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Sketchbook/0003.jpg

On and the attachment on the first post is something I'm trying to work on now.
Maybe I'll post it when I work on it some more.

edit - it's gone now actually....it looked like ass :p

[Sung-jae Kim]

err...here's a super quickie....
I really need to do some composition studies... Any tips on how one would approach this?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Environment/Junk0001copy.jpg

[Sung-jae Kim]

Just a thing I'm working on now.
WIP
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Personal%20Work/0001wip.jpg

[JAIR...]

hey SUNSHINE! nice to see your newer work here! where are you drawing these models is there an open figure drawing session near you?

anyway i see some serious improvement here especially in your rendering i see you have been focusing on form and light without neglecting the basic anatomy and quick sketch... Great stuff However I still see some anatomy issues (without going into detail) i noticed that your figures has some connectivity issues. I see your arms are looking a bit long especially with the first set of drawings also the relationship between the head and the rest of the body. Remember to what the Great MR WANG says "Draw the feet, look at the head, draw the hands look at the head" basically you should always keep your size relationships relative the rest of the figure. You rendering is nice however i will say that you should vary the direction of you stroke and not render in the same direction. But great improvements all around!!!!!!!!!

come visit us again some time!
-jair

[MrSmith]

good stuff!

[Sung-jae Kim]

JAIR... - Thanks a bunch for the most constructive critique yet! Hopefully I've done better in the drawing on this post.
MrSmith - Thanks for visiting and feel free to leave criticisms next time you visit :D


I was expecting this pose to be 20+ hrs, but I only got about 10hrs in and then the model didn't show for some reason :(
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Life%20Drawings/10hr.png

[americanheadcharge]

Very good life drawings!

[Sung-jae Kim]

americanheadcharge - Thanks.

Speedy
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/Studies/Environment/0001copy.jpg

[bouroune]

nice pencil man, the last nude is awesome, reminds me of henry yan style.. keep on posting

[Envisor]

Hey! that figure is much better! You can still bump up the contrast a bit, do you squint at your model to see dark/half tone/ and light? The proportions are much better as well. Also try giving the background a mid tone value, so when you add your highlights to the figure it should pop! Not sure if that makes sense. Nice digi's, would like to see your process on them sometime?

[headlessAdi]

great use of half tones....mazing rendering....but i would suggest working on the anatomy a little bit more....other than that amazing work.....keep posting!!
-Adi

[kuroart]

good stuff. a lot of progress taking place with each post. that last figure and the speedy are looking real good. keep it up.

[Niku]

Cool, good ref. and studies wish i could say something, as I am also trying to develop my own style and don't wana add to good things, but keep posting...over and out .-.

[Alvaradolol]

The top of the hair outline is a little messy on the last pencil, I think there is some major potato chip ear too. Sick tummy folds though.

[QETALIVAN]

Nice rendering pencils, post some more from your imagination, they look good so far.

[Bushido]

This stuff is goin in a Good! Direction!

:)

[kischi]

Hey cool sketchbook! The livedrawings are looking really good. Also your digital studies. Keep it up.
Are you avoiding hand and feet? ;)

[Sung-jae Kim]

Whoa! More replies than I expected. Thanks a bunch people :)

bouroune -Haha, thanks, but we both know Henry Yan is at least 1000x better than me :p
Envisor - Definitely agree on the contrast thing. The drawing's been looking less and less contrasty everyday I look at it @ home. As for the background, I think I'll leave it blank for the next few weeks since I want to concentrate on seeing the value on the figure more accurately. Thanks though :D I'll attach a process for the last environment I posted here. Hope it helps!
headlessAdi - Anatomy....:( Working on it :) Thanks!
kuroart - Thanks :D
Niku - Though I'm confused about parts of that sentence, thank you and wish you luck on finding your own style :)
Alvaradolol - Thanks Alex, tells me I still need to pay a lot more attention to details :( And potato chip ears? lol, damn, must be a Mr.Wang term that I missed out on. Please describe what it is (though I think I know what you're talking about) :) Oh and, update your sketchbook please
QETALIVAN - Will do! (at the end of the post) Thanks :)
Bushido - Thanks!
kischi - Hahaa.....Hands and feet.... I think so :( I'll try to tackle those dreaded things tomorrow.

Oh and I realized that I hate uploading stuff onto photobucket and will be using Conceptart.org's attachment thingy from now on.

First one's just a process of the environment I posted earlier.
The second one's a sketch from my head. I've been looking at more and more digital artists who uses lots of visible brush strokes (such as Craig Mullins and Jamie Jones) hoping to learn from them :) Unfortunately, to get started I had to use the hue/saturation tool to raise the saturation of my initial drawing :( (it was looking way too dull)

Please feel free to leave critiques and thanks for visiting :)
(and please excuse the ridiculous amount of smiles present. I'll try to avoid that next time)

[KTF Fang]

looks dope. Stop using the round brush playa! Try the natural brush #12 or some other brush with a bit of texture and direction.

[kikindaface]

Your life drawing are really good, especially the last one, which is awesome. Your last environment is good too. Maybe you can detail it. Keep it up .

[niyama]

i like where you are going with that last painting, simplified with the larger shapes, nice

so anyway i just got photoshop for my computer, so expect some great things from me, yes i am looking forward to seeing you too! thanks for the birthday wishes

[Skysong]

Lady in red is my fav, though it's too messy. Good progress, but try to push your works a bit further.

[niyama]

bob put some more work up here,
why are you called bob?

[Rustveld]

Nice sketchbook, I really like your anatomy studies, they look good.
I don't have any critique at the moment, maybe I'll have some next time. Keep up the good work.

[Sung-jae Kim]

Yikes!
Sorry for the lack of updates, here's just some stuff I took pictures of a while back. I'll put some more stuff up soon.

KTF Fang - Thanks Phong, though I think I might hold off on that til I get a better hang of values/colors.
Walid D - Finishing is definitely one of my weaknesses so I'll try to keep attacking it :)
niyama - Let's see some of this great stuff you speak of :P
and no, you may not.
Skysong - Thanks, I hope I get better :|
Rustveld - Thanks and I hope you visit again :D

1 - graphite
2 - graphite
3 - acrylic

[Texahol]

keep up the studies man...and do some finished personal work. It will be good for your brain ;)

i am really jealous of you getting those long poses :<

[KTF Fang]

that acrylic piece is your best ever. hands down.

[Not_Deadman]

Oh man, this stuff is inspirational... I really like how you label your stuff with the time it took for you to make your pieces. It shows you put the time, effort and patience into your work, and I think it shows. I really like your rendering and it looks like your making great progress. You have made my day, thank you

[VenustusVis]

Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with phong. That acrylic paintings really good man. I'd be interested to see you post some close ups of it and what size did you work @?

[VenustusVis]

haha now that I look @ it again ur hand disappears to nothing...odd :p

[Ken Aschliman]

The last two remind me of James Jean.

[Alvaradolol]

Good shit

[Bill]

I like this last batch especially. Collectively there 's a great mood to them and I think the colors in the third are really very good. Great texture to them as well. Nice SB.

[Sung-jae Kim]

I'll reply to everyone as soon as I'm done with the college stuff!
Thanks for visiting.

Hello, I went to CCAD last year and took a year off, trying to transfer :|
Well, here's what I have so far, I have a few more in the works that I might post later.
I need 20 pieces total, AFAIK

Any critiques and suggestions (about both what I have, and what I should include) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=593427&stc=1&d=1234676401
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=593429&stc=1&d=1234676479

[Janos]

SOme awsome stuff here. I really think there won't be a problem with being accepted to a college. Your enviros are coming along nicely, but as said before, detail them to achieve a better image. Your life drawings are really good. I'm gooing to start some life classes in march, so I hope they help me improve. I suck at anatomy.
The acrylic in #42 is very nice, esp the colours (why don't we see more of those?) but I see some issues with her left arm (too long/thick) and her right leg (upper thigh too long). Oh and please finish teh hand.

[KTF Fang]

Thats way too many life drawings to be included in portfolio. I'd say 2-3 max and a page or two of gesture sketches should suffice. They don't need to see 20 figure drawings to see that you can do them. Just pick the best and fill the rest of your portfolio with more variety. Maybe a still life and some environments and character designs if that's what you wanna do, or some full colored compositions. Then again, it depends on what school you're applying for.

[Sung-jae Kim]

Texahol - Hehe good rec, I'll get started again since I'm pretty much done w/ this whole portfolio thingy.
KTF Fang - Thanks Phong. But waaaaaaay too late for that now :p Hope to see you soon.
Not_Deadman - o_o wow, umm. Thanks for you kind words.
VenustusVis - Thanks Fry. The painting's tiny :p no need to see it zoomed in. :p
Ken Aschliman - wut!? Thanks Kenneth, but you are high.
Alvaradolol - Thanks Alex.
Bill - Thanks for visiting :)
Janos - Haha, I've been studying hands lately, it's something I definately need to improve on. Constantly doing life drawings will help, no doubt. Good luck with your studies.

Again, thanks for visiting people.
I have some more studies from class/home. The size is 14"x17" for the drawings and about 20hrs spent on each?
The digital one's flaaaaaaaaaaaat. (especially the...onion...?) I need to spend more time on these.

[ThabisoMhlaba]

Your life drawings are looking quite awesome sir. keep working at the digitabl stuff I am too. Its hard =\.

[DeeLock]

Life drawings are fantastic!

5 stars!

[Parsakoira]

This thread has some awesome figure studies! It deserves some stars...

Keep posting man! You rock!

[Sung-jae Kim]

Oki - Thanks Oki, keep up your studies :)

DeeLock - nope, 4 stars :p I'll try to work for that 5 star :) thanks.

NoodleDoodle - Thanks :)


Just tiny quick studies. I think they're about 6"x9" each
One to the left was about 3hrs total.
One to the right was about 2hrs total. This one was supposed to be a 2 week pose, but something happened and got stopped after the 3rd day. So, I have a larger drawing that I got started on. (I'll post it after I draw on the back page ;P)
Thanks for visiting :)

[Sung-jae Kim]

Hmm... just something from my head that I did before I went to bed. Hoping to apply some of the stuff I've been learning... I really want to draw from my head so I'm mostly doing copies now :\ (which I don't think I'll be posting here :P)

[Sung-jae Kim]

Hmmm... I was looking through some old sketchbooks and figured I should include some stuff that are actually in my sketchbook as well.....

I've started doing copies recently, some times just copying mindlessly and other times trying to analyze what the authors were trying to show...
I imagine the first method is more useful for training your eyes/arms, while the second method is more useful for understanding better... I suppose I'll go back to the drawings that I've copied mindlessly eventually and analyze them more...

Just some Bridgman and Vanderpoel (+ possibly Loomis? I forget what pages i did them) studies... (and crappy pics where i tried to apply some of the stuff that I thought I learned to drawing from imagination... I think I had a more successful one in the next page though :3)

Heh... I talked a little too much on this one and posted so little...

I'll post more of these soon though, minus the talking.

[Izer]

Hey looks good sung-jae, studies look great and you have a excellent grasp on the human form, like the color work as well. Only thing i can suggest and i see you are wanting to draw outta your head and you have great studies as well is to study your studies (if that makes sense), much like the masters did to get proper formulas to replicate their work without use of a model. You know by looking where things are, now you should focus one knowing where things are in order to just pump out figures, and with the lighting and gesture ,from, balance, rhythm etc. that you have gained from life drawings you will be able to render and with good understand your figures. I think the studys you have are great although i didn't see any drapery on this page(mite be some on the other), as far as your digital works go just keep doing it. Ima subscribe though to follow.

[Sung-jae Kim]

Izer - Thanks a bunch for the critiques. Hopefully I can concentrate on those things you said, since I absolutely agree that I need to work on those thing badly. :|

More stuff from my imagination. The image to the left is for chow (which I hope to finish), I've worked on it some more, but I don't know if I'll post it til it's finished (especially since I started using curves and all that stuff photoshop offers.)
2nd one is a random face.
Notice how I have them at practically the same angle? I need to structure/gesture study more :(

[JesArt]

Are you going to Ringling ? Puppy Dog Eyes

[Sung-jae Kim]

JesArt - I kind of want to, but it's just too expensive :|

Thanks for visiting :D

Here's some more.....
all graphite, 6hr 18x24, 12hr 14x17 and 25hr 18x24
Too much time wasted on drawing/fixing :|
I really need to get the drawing right the first time.

PLEASSSSE leave some critiques :(

[Sung-jae Kim]

(for Chow - the Final Doctor (Who?)) - Lots of work to be done....This is what I have for now.
Trying to put in features that River Song mentioned in Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead which is turning out to be pretty hard :|
Fun topic though.

[The Pariano]

Keep it up and you are going to be really, really good.

[Sung-jae Kim]

@The Pariano - I hope so T__T

Thanks for visiting :)

I'm gonna attempt to update the sketchbook once a day. EEEEEEEEEEEEEK wish me luck.

Subway sketches :|
I really need to get better.. (ballpoint)

[a la bapsi]

those life drawings are neato
keep it up

[Sung-jae Kim]

@a la bapsi - I'll do these as long as I have a seat on the subway :D

Meh, something for vent, was supposed to be a char design.....but nope :| Have to study costumes/char designs :|

[Sung-jae Kim]

Meh, few eye studies, wasn't feeling well during the first 9 or so, so I took a shower and did 2 more before moving onto crappy gestures from head. Something I've been neglecting for a while. Hopefully I'll do even more tomorrow. (and learn a little more about posing chars)

[Sung-jae Kim]

EEEEEEK!
I'm so undisciplined :|
Did waaaaaay less gestures than yesterday, I think I'm gonna to alternate between gesture and more finished stuff :|

[Sung-jae Kim]

errrrgh character design/drawing from imagination is sooooooo hard for me right now. I'll try to get better though. :D

[bharat]

good study of anatomy n life...

[Sung-jae Kim]

@bharat - thanks :)
Thanks for visiting

UGH! I'm so freaking lazy T_T &*@$A%%$
few studies from Human Machine - Bridgeman

[courtyard]

Your life drawings are among the best I've seen here--really, really beautiful, delicate work. The second one in post 64 is particularly lovely. The only crit I can think of is that your most recent studies seem to be reflecting some of the frustration in your posts (I can certainly relate)...maybe take a break from them for a couple of days and only draw stuff that sounds really fun to you. With your gestures, you could try varying your line quality and weight so that the figures seem more grounded and solid...right now, they're kind of floating. I can tell that this is a sketchbook to keep an eye on--I can't wait to see where you'll be in a year.

[mariusz]

awsome drawigns dude, keep it up

[Verehin]

Great drawings! 5 stars

[Sung-jae Kim]

@Courtyard - Thanks a bunch. That made me feel better :D I'll try to learn to pace myself better and figure out how I work best :| Thanks again :)

@mariusz - Thanks, and will do :)

@Verehin - thanks :)

I pretty much took the day off yesterday and did very little.
:\
I'll post more stuff by end of tonight.

[Sung-jae Kim]

Something for ventrilo, 1hr :|
Forgot how fun environment was/can be. :)

[snootchy]

here to show some luv for fellow han guky artist!!! (although i'm not quite where u at)

not disciplined enough?! you are killing it with the anatomy studies, and those life drawings are a real treat to look at!! it'd be nice to see some more enviro's to practice some compositional elements, then u'd be the double threat

keep them cool studies coming

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180)

[darkly]

here to show some luv for fellow han guky artist!!! (although i'm not quite where u at)

not disciplined enough?! you are killing it with the anatomy studies, and those life drawings are a real treat to look at!! it'd be nice to see some more enviro's to practice some compositional elements, then u'd be the double threat

keep them cool studies coming

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180)

I agree with snootchy.

Sung: I've got to tell you man, I'm real impressed with your work! I am glad you're on my CHOW Team! Your life drawings are top notch and those profile paintings from your imagination are real good. It's funny I have the opposite problem of you. I draw from my imagination 99.9% of the time, but then my work often suffers from lack of drawing from real life. One suggestion for drawing from imagination is to just real lightly scribble all sorts of shapes and lines down. Then try to pick out images that stand out in your brain and define it further with how the story of the scribbles play with your imagination. You essentially are then creating from chaos. This can be a fun and freeing exercise. I wish you well and look forward to seeing what you come up with for the Team CHOW.
darkly

[Sung-jae Kim]

EEk! Just posting for ventrilo challenge, i'll post replies tonight w/ some studies >_<

[Sung-jae Kim]

@snootchy - Thanks mate, I'll try to get put some variety in the stuff I do :)
@darkly - That's an interesting suggestion/method, since I tend to go real dark real fast when drawing from imagination, I'll keep this in mind and be more careful. Thanks :)

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeergh, I've been very unproductive the last few days. I'd like to blame the cold, but I know it's cause I'm lazy :\
neeed more discipline :(

top is for team chow and bottom are more Vanderpoel studies, I wanna learn to draw faces better :\

[a la bapsi]

dammit your awesome lines made me spill boiling tea on my just cleaned pants.
man i know where you're coming from with that cold. i just got over one. [...but...you kinda know that already. >A>; ]
keep studying, don't let that cold get you down like it did me!
VENGEANCE

[Sung-jae Kim]

@a la bapsi - Thanks for the compliment :o
(like best compliment ever) Keep serving justice.

Finally got to the head section in the Vanderpoel book :D
Can't wait to copy them tomorrow.
trying to get my internet addiction under control, I'm VERY addicted. :(

[ForScience]

It looks like you have a good understanding of structure. Your lines are confident and purposeful. I think your color could use some work, your skin tones drop in saturation too sharply in your shadows, It is common to see saturation actually increase as the form breaks into a shadow-shape. Keep on posting the great work.

[Texahol]

feet, hands, hips are in need of some serious attention. You are avoiding drawing the hands and feet even in your looooooong life drawing poses...you need to draw them. They are important...
Even though you are doing "gesture studies" from pose maniacs, all your characters you are trying to draw in a more or less standing still pose. I think it would behoove you to spend your studies focused on what you are trying to do. If you want to do standing char designs, do some studies from a place like http://www.hel-looks.com/

Studies should be geared towards learning to apply concepts. Always be thinking about what you are trying to learn by doing these studies, instead of just doing them because you're supposed to...I only say this, because a lot of the studies you are doing [like the gestures from pose maniacs] don't seem to be carrying over into your imagination work. That's not to say that your studies aren't benefiting you...I just think with a bit more focus you could be getting a lot more out of your time spent.

[Sung-jae Kim]

@ForScience - ! thank you for the advice on colors, I think it helped quite a bit, I'll try to keep that in mind. :)

@Texahol - WHOA! Thanks, didn't even realize I was still not tackling the hand/feet. Haven't posted any pose maniacs here but I do see what you mean. and thanks for reminding me to be more analytical about the studies :) (oh and it'd be great if you can point out the flaws in my hips)

A quick environment (w/ terrible composition) and rabble rouser wip for team chow.

[lennon]

Hey man, you're doing a great job with the figure. I have been thinking about this exercise, perhaps you want to go to: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2226273#post2226273
and perhaps we could share notes.
About the critique that you ask for, well, probably you know that you have some problems integrating the hands to the rest of the body. It's extremely complex, and I'm sure that almost everyone has the same problem to some degree. Perhaps you should study more the hands alone, and the head alone, and the body alone, and once that that stuff becomes second nature to you, merging them will be painless.
It's sometimes stressing how much one gets to believe that have finally grasped the right proportions for once and for all, too many times before discovering that there are still problems.
About the head, take a look at it. The common errors that all the people in the world have while drawing the head, is that they make the bridge of the nose two long, the frame of the face tend to be to thin (too close to the eyes), and the mouth too close to the chin. Your getting rid of those fine, but there are still subtle traces of them there. Try to go beyond your instinct a few times, and explore changing this proportions.
Hope it helps.

[bharat]

cool art ,,,,keep it u p....! bro.

[Mischeviouslittleelf]

Wow! Good bunch of studies here mate. Really liking the hogarths and what not. Keep them rolling, the improvement is laying on thick:)

[Joe824]

great life studies, your digital stuff is coming along nicely too. i know it can be frustrating, it's a different animal. don't forget you can draw from reference digitally too, might be a good way to sharpen your tablet skills before you try to dive into character designs from your head. hope that makes sense. great work, can't wait to see more!!

[Sung-jae Kim]

@lennon - ! Thank you so much for the critique :D I'll be sure to go over the post in your thread tomorrow to get a better understanding when I'm not so tired :D
@bharat -Will do :D
@Mischeviouslittleelf - Thanks, will continue to do those studies :x
@Joe824 -! yeah, I suppose I haven't done much of that now that I think of it. Will try some master studies in the future :)

Thanks for visiting guys :)

More Team CHOW WIP, I'd like to think I've gotten rid of at least some of the proportion issues :x Critique!

[snootchy]

suhweet chow concepts! Only crit is the guy on the right looks like he is made of wood or like a wooden doll, due to the textures on his face, not sure if u were going to smooth some of that out.

Keep up them cool uppers coming!

[Sung-jae Kim]

@snootchy - thanks for that, I think I managed to smooth it out a bit more.
eek <_< sorry for these terrible updates.

[Sung-jae Kim]

thunderdome w/ call0ps
Still haven't seen his final yet :|

[HugeHarHar]

Something unprecedented for me has just happened. I'm almost always biased towards loving traditional works, but looking at your stuff has just astounded me.

Your digital work is suburb, as well as your traditional studies. I...just...can't...decide!

[Sung-jae Kim]

@HugeHarHar - Oh geez, thank you :o

*sighs*
Just got "done" with Team CHOW
Discovered soo many limitations on my part. Need to study more. A lot more.
Figure drawing was 18x24 and spent like....40hrs on it....
Not good or anything (i mean look at the arm among other things), but I learned quite a bit doing it :D

ps - looks like im going to SVA.... :o

[goldnmean]

And you're off to a great start!

[Eugie]

Hey thanks for the tips, I like your work you have a very structural approach. Your hands seem a little small in a couple of them here's a good tut by Ron Lemen which should help http://www.anticz.com/handtut.htm.

[a la bapsi]

woo sva

[Sung-jae Kim]

@goldnmean - haha, actually, my start was absolutely terrible (stuff I haven't posted here) :p Thanks for the comment :)
@Eugie - np - thanks for the tut :D
@a la bapsi - wooo! (well, at least I hope so, still waiting for paper work to come through..)

= Just something for thunderdome w/ Dile_ (wip) >_>;
I don't know if it exactly fits the theme though :\

[Sung-jae Kim]

blrrrrrrrr

[Sung-jae Kim]

update....14x17 bristol...30hr..

[Call0ps]

nice environment man, the textures and brush stroke really brings it to life. and your life figures is stunning, some anatomy and perspective issues on the arms, but nothing that you wont overcome with practice :) anyway keep it updated ( dont be like me :x )

[Sung-jae Kim]

@Carr0ps - :P thanks man, we're dissing you on vent right now. Come back :(

[Dile_]

hey sung-jae looking good in here.

Work on your planes more. Think of your forms as very simplified items and stick to that. You can work those forms once every things been established.

The last face looks pretty good... if you squint you'll see how your values float together into planes.. simplify to that plane. if it looks good while you're squinting.. you're on the right track =)

I love that figure drawing btw. The neck looks displaced though.. I guess thats not your priority after 30 hours of work tho'.. I hope you learned something from it. I think you did.

As for the environment.. You need to focus more on the relationship between fore and background. Don't cut it off as if they are two different elements.. let them work with eachother and find a good way to deal with the perspective through it.

I think it would've worked better if the figure was out of focus.. and the building was in focus and in more detail.. again establish your planes first and you can go more wild with textures and shit later.

Anyway its looking good =) keep it up!

[midknight523]

awesome studies

[palladium]

You should post more work Sprung. Hope all is well at SVA.

[George Pratt]

Sung-jae,

I've been scoping out the drawings and all you've posted here. Some nice work going on. The thing I would push would be to give serious thought to the silhouette of your figures. They should be self-explanatory through the silhouette. Does that make sense? Brent Watkinson gives a great lecture on this at the Illustration Academy using straight black silhouettes of various animals and people. If the silhouette holds up, it's immediately readable. That way, too, you can focus on what you WANT us to see, what's important to what you're trying to say.

On your figure drawings you might work on some toned paper and use just two values, a light and a dark (but not black). Try to hold the silhouette, and to limit your value structure. Howard Pyle pushed using a three value system. Obviously there's more than three values in nature, but this is about being selective and limiting your options so that you can better organize the picture planes. Dile mentioned above that squinting can bring those values closer together, and he's right. Squinting will level the tonal playing field and allow you to see what's working — or not. If the figure disappears, then the value structure needs work.

And during your life drawing sessions give some thought to how the light is "falling off" the figure. It's going to be brighter, obviously, by the source of the light, and then fall off the further away the light is from the rest of the figure. This will give your figure more weight in the space. Ultimately, it's up to you to tell us where to look, through value, and edge work. We'll never get to see the model as you see it. The reality for us as viewers are your drawings. So that's the final say. I'm always less interested in whether things are correct or not, as opposed to whether they "feel" right. Does the figure "live" on the page? Is the mood immersive. That's the stuff that's more important to me. Again, a light thing on a dark thing, and a dark thing on a light thing.

Also, can you draw the figure without lines, just do it with tone. What we find most, as instructors, is that when people tend to resort to line then the piece is not holding up, it's not working. Of course this is more about painted images, ultimately, but even when I'm doing line work I think in this way, about the larger shapes and basically a dark thing on a light thing or vice versa.

And that's a biggie: Shapes. Think about the bigger shapes, the bigger issues. Like the interlocking pieces of one of those giant floor puzzles. Brent Watkinson and John English call it "a puzzle for a dumb guy". And it works. Look at NC Wyeth. He made lots of puzzles for dumb guys. And they're incredibly beautiful and very deceptively simple. Those guys, Howard Pyle, NC Wyeth, Harvey Dunn, Dean Cornwell, they had this stuff down! And their images are so damn readable! They absolutely come alive through value, shape, gesture and color. Just incredible stuff. Do a pile of master copies of their work and you'll discover a whole world of information!

And while it's great that you're doing these crazy long poses, try to change it up and see what you can do with ten minutes rather than 30 hours. You might surprise yourself. I think on the long poses people tend to get lost in the forest. They can't see the forest for the trees, that sort of thing. If you give yourself very little time and crank something out, just respond to what's in front of you, you'll train your eye to immediately go for what's important in the pose — the thing that attracted you to the pose in the first place. Don't give yourself time to think. Just crank it out. Your proportions might be off, but you know what, you'll notice it right away. And on the next drawing you'll do better, and on and on. Responsive drawing. It'll do wonders for your skill level. When the mind comes in, when you analyze things, then "seeing" goes out the window. Be an eye and let your hand put down what the eye sees. Forget the "perfect line" and all that. Just DRAW! Each line informs the next and that informs the next, etc. It's a constant give and a take. Learn to be a passenger, quit trying to drive all the time. If you trust your instincts, you'll be rewarded.

And I would also play with lots more media when drawing as well. Once you get comfortable with one thing, then switch to something else. Say you start with pastels, and they start to feel good, you're cranking away. Well, you've hit autopilot, time to switch. When you hit autopilot you quit really "looking" at what's in front of you. Switch to something totally opposite, say, a 6B pencil, or a Hi-Tec C. All of a sudden the blunt approach is not going to work. You're in the deep water again, and, guess what? You start "looking" again. It really works to keep you on your toes. And use a real pencil to wring as much out of the drawing as you can. You can ride the tip or roll over on the edge and get a really organic thick and thin with incredible ease. And think about the pressure you apply to the pencil as well while you're drawing. You can give a sense of light to a line drawing just by how light or dark the lines are, without using tone or crosshatch.

Anyway, keep up the great work!

George