Ripping Artwork

[mtomczek]

Alright gang we need to make it known, as of right now there will be a zero tolerance on ripping artwork for the dsgs. This is an excersize to have fun and learn, not to really prove anything to anyone. So why rip artwork for it???? Seems kinda lame to me. If anyone notices anything fishy at all, please contact myself or william b hand immediately and we will look into it. Have fun, enjoy what you are doing, and mostly be proud of what you do no matter what. In the long run it will help you immensely.

matt

[davi]

The dsg was made to increase productivity and creativity of artists, i've seen many people take shortcuts and it's a bit frustrating...

please, do not use premade characters unless the topic is specifity oriented at using them, like if the topic was "undead", do not use a character from warcraft3, try to be more original. If the topic is "redesign a jedi knight", no one will yell at you if you do something similar to something already designed, because it's expected.

[silentbrain]

I have to ask, is this the first time something this serious has happened in the dsg?

[mtomczek]

To my knowledge, this is the first repeat case that someone has been ripping off artwork and posting them as their own dsg entries. I have been with it since dsg #4 and I cant remember anything since then.

[davi]

i've snuck in like a ninja some times and blocked some posts... someone posted a drawing of freddy kruger that was completely stolen from a poster, he drew it yeah, but it was in my mind just as bad as a tracing or photo manip.

btw, this post won't be here forever, i'm going to make a better rules/warnings post for the dsg in the future so there will be less stickies... starting to get an overflow of them

[renone]

I spew useless words from my mouth.

[strych9ine]

Putz. You promoted yourself with Ninjai artwork by blantantly cropping out the copyright and putting you sig there.

People brought this to your attention as morally and legally wrong, yet you persisted with similar acts of fraud.

Adios, fucktard. :chug:

[Vimmzy]

so who are we talking about here? Anyone special?

[Jorn]

Vimmzy ; yup , renone ( who posted "so drawing like still life is ripping work off come on get a life" )

Adios indeed.

[OLSEN]

....they are talking about the unspeakable one, the foul Renone, he who steals ideas, it is rumored that if you type his name in capital letters three times in a row, the following winter will last a full year.. yea.

[mtomczek]

Renone you putz, doing a still life isnt ripping art, someone didnt draw it first. You are blatantly taking others artwork and either altering or tracing it and putting your name on it. YOUR NAME ON OTHERS COMPLETED ARTWORK OR USE OF IDEAS = RIPPING ARTWORK. I am really beginning to wonder if theres some mentality thing going on here.

[devilbunny]

and i'd like to add that the only one that needs to get a life here is the one hanging around where he's obviously not wanted.

[ZenGonzo]

I don't even understand what the point is .. Where's the benefit?

[Faxtar]

I thought he was like 12 or something but he is like 20something, you can see a pic of him on his website.

[renone]

mmmm i strictly remember not posting anything here that was copyrighted or otherwise not mine...
yawn this bores me

[OLSEN]

If it bores you, why don´t you leave? The point is that you have stolen art and claimed it as your own, it doesn´t matter if you did it here or not, art thieves should burn in hell, and well, you one of them, so fuck off. :mad:

[renone]

spoken like a true artist with no education bravo
you win
:D

[OLSEN]

Thank you, i´ll take that as a compliment.

[ClocktowerArtworks]

is there anyway to ban this guy from using the internet at all? i seriously think something medical is going on here.

[silentbrain]

This is like that guy who painted the american flag and called it art. Sure, art is a blurry area defying definition, but this is not that kinda place.. I'm sure that there are other places which support this sort of thing.

Renone, obviously you don't like this place and are just taunting the people here for shits and giggles. But if you really love doing art for art's sake, why do you need to come here? Why do you need to show it online at all?

(For the record, it seemed to me like Renone did just as was suggested, which was to do a study. It didn't look precise enough for a trace for me. Of course, not telling us where the study came from was dirty.)

[renone]

thanks silent brain
someone with a little bit of smarts as well as compassion
hmmm
go figure
:p

[dns2k]

dude give up... your only art skills are using bryce and they dont seem to be that amazing.... do some studies of the masters and study figure drawing. learn to create works like the ones you copied.

-dns

[strych9ine]

Originally posted by renone
mmmm i strictly remember not posting anything here that was copyrighted or otherwise not mine...
yawn this bores me

?

Ninjai with the copyright cropped out and your sig added in? On your site? Is any of this registering? What in the fuck is your major malfunction, soldier?

Besides blatant copyright infringement on your site, you posted copies of other concept art and other images in DSG without giving credit to the original artist, thus taking credit exclusively for the work. You are receiving exposure from posts at boards and posting a copy of someone else's concepts as your own is deception.

At the beginning I thought you were just playing dumb about this whole situation, but now it's readily apparent that you're just plain stupid.

[Anto]

to quote renone -
"AFTER 14 YEARS IN AND OUT THE CLUB SCENE I ATTEMPT TO SHOW THE WORLD MY VIEW THROUGH MY ART AND MEDIA. I CAN AND WILL DO ALL SORTS OF MEDIA FROM FLYERS TO BUSINES CARDS TO SMALL WEB SITES. IN THIS SITE IS A BRIEF SAMPLE OF SOME THINGS I HAVE DONE FOR VARIOUS PEOPLE FROM DJS TO BUSINESSES. I CAN AND WILL BEAT ANY ITHER RATES. IF THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BE INTRESTED IN FOR YOU OR YOUR COMPANY JUST GO TO THE CONTACT ME PAGE. I LOOK FOWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU."

haha what a fuckin joke this guy is

http://home.jam.rr.com/renone/09d68e10.jpg

http://home.jam.rr.com/renone/0aa0e680.jpg

good job genius, a great way to get clients is to have ripped artwork on your site as well as a picture of you sleeping and a picture of you with a pot leaf shirt - fuckin momo.

heres a tip - stay in the club scene, even though you look a little too old and washed out for that as well.

[ZenGonzo]

Don't get personal, it distracts from the real issue.

I don't see why renone wants to post stuff like that, but people don't come to this section to impress or be impressed. Or they shouldn't, anyways.

If you don't work hard on your stuff, though, it won't show any improvement - so what's the use in faking?

Good luck.

[fukifino]

I already notifed the Ninjai gang about his artwork on his site. While it's not illegal to do studies, he is clearly using their character (which is copyrighted) on a site intended to get him work, and without credit or notification of the copyright issues involved in the character. That IS illegal. (Besides, I think that drawing is just a photoshop smudged screenshot anyways...I don't see anything else on the site that indicates he has that kind of artistic talent, and he would have had to color pick like mad to get it that accurate).

It's a shame hard working artists like the Ninjai crew have to take the time to enforce shit like this. I know they don't have a crapload of money either for legal fees, but I'm sure they will pursue it either way.

[renone]

my site is for my personal enjoyment and friends
not for work silly
i have a job
lmao
thats sooooo funny
lol
and the "pot leaf" shirt is a cmpany that makes stuff from hemp stupid
and yeah personal will get ya no where buddy
real artist do not get personal
lol
you guys strings are so east to pull'

[dns2k]

since your wasting our time anyways make sure you post the legal letter from the ninjai gang you get so we can laugh at the failure you and other fake artists always have. I hope your job does not involve art cause from the looks of it all you can do is mess up some perfectly good art and call it your own.

-dns

[strych9ine]

From renone's website
I CAN AND WILL DO ALL SORTS OF MEDIA FROM FLYERS TO BUSINES CARDS TO SMALL WEB SITES. IN THIS SITE IS A BRIEF SAMPLE OF SOME THINGS I HAVE DONE FOR VARIOUS PEOPLE FROM DJS TO BUSINESSES. I CAN AND WILL BEAT ANY ITHER RATES.

Key word is "rates"... you intend to charge for your "services", shmuck.

Originally posted by renone
my site is for my personal enjoyment and friends
not for work silly


And for the grand finale...

Originally posted by strych9ine
At the beginning I thought you were just playing dumb about this whole situation, but now it's readily apparent that you're just plain stupid.

[ZenGonzo]

Originally posted by renone
you guys strings are so east to pull'

Pretty lame, chief ..

[MindCandyMan]

Pair #1

and yeah personal will get ya no where buddy
real artist do not get personal



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spoken like a true artist with no education bravo


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Pair # 2


spoken like a true artist with no education bravo


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I CAN AND WILL BEAT ANY ITHER RATES.


Ither?

[Carnifex]

my definition of art:
when you create something unique that's not so easy to redo(may also invole sculpture etc.),but it should be your own.thus f.ex.taking photographs is seen as no art by me. even less ripping someone's artwork.burn.

[lavhoes]

Originally posted by Carnifex
my definition of art:
when you create something unique that's not so easy to redo(may also invole sculpture etc.),but it should be your own.thus f.ex.taking photographs is seen as no art by me. even less ripping someone's artwork.burn.

The vast majority of photographs are impossible to duplicate without consulting the original picture.

But I digress.

[mtomczek]

I agree about photographs, they are art, and if you ever have tried to shoot, its alot harder then people think. As far as this thread goes, I am locking it. Conversation is over, Renone is a hack, Ripping off artwork is bad, and cheese is good. Now everyone get drawing. over and out.