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NHansen
November 10th, 2003, 08:24 PM
Well here's the product of drawing a robot in the Metropolitan Museum in NYC, and the extreme boredom to make it into a comic at school today. Most people don't get it, I guess it's my humor.

http://subver.com/sketchbook/comicsm.jpg

I plan on making more weird comics like this. It was a lot of fun.

Lohan
November 10th, 2003, 08:38 PM
hahaha i like the part where it shows both their eyes. i like it :/

LeeSmith
November 10th, 2003, 10:13 PM
your 'dead baby' is a hell of alot like Nate Bellegarde's 'Fetorpse' although I couldn't find a picture to compare.

Was it inspired by Nate's creation?

NHansen
November 10th, 2003, 10:27 PM
Yeah, I saw a sketch of it at eatpoo. I tried to find it before I posted but I couldn't. I apologize if i copped his dead baby in this, the sketch just made me laugh and it was the only thing I could think of.

bustabustu
November 11th, 2003, 07:19 AM
haha, this is freaking great. Can I try to model this in 3d? PLEASE! :0) I'm new to the program and I need all the practice I can get.

anoon
November 11th, 2003, 10:03 AM
I guess i don't really have an opinion on the drawing itself... seems ok I suppose. Nothing special. The work in your sketchbook thread is much better.

I feel the need to comment on the comic itself though. I'm not bothered enough to go and decode the binary language. Care to decipher for us? Is it key to understanding the 'joke?' If not, I guess this one is just over my head, because it's lost on me.

Or is the whole point to not make any sense at all? Were you trying to antagonize the viewer by implying that there was some deep meaning or esoteric message contained within the panels when in truth, there was not? The end question of 'confused?' came across as if you were issuing a challenge to the audience, as in: 'Hey Slowpoke, don't you get it? Of course you don't. Only those with an intelligence and sense of humor as finely developed as mine would understand.'

I'd love to hear your thoughts and motivations behind this piece, or at least spell out the joke for us dullards.

Lost Dragon
November 11th, 2003, 12:50 PM
I don't think the robot is saying anything, unless the artist used his own home-brewed binary alphabet.

ASCII Standard:

01100001 a
01100010 b
01100011 c
01100100 d

etc...

http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/helpful_data/ascii2.html

Yeah, I'm a geek. :D

anoon
November 11th, 2003, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the link Dragon.

NHansen
November 11th, 2003, 01:28 PM
You guys are thinking about the joke too much.
The robot is aying 100110010, etc..
To the baby, that is what he is saying, thinking he is messing up his counting, rather than saying 1234567..
Of course in real life the robot would be making weird robotic sounds, maybe that's what is throwing you guys off. I wanna make a comic of somebody reading that comic, and saying "der, I don't get it" so when somebody is going through my sketchbook, and they don't get it, they will read the next and I will laugh at them ;)
Anyways thanks for the replies.

NHansen
November 11th, 2003, 01:30 PM
p.s.- busta, HELL YEAH you can render this! I would love to see how it turns out!

brads3d
November 12th, 2003, 12:17 AM
IS the robot making weird robotic sounds, or is he saying the numbers... cause the baby says 'you cant count'm but it would only make sense if the robot was saying numbers. In which case, the binary should mean something.... i just went cross-eyed

The drawing is cool. Very Jhonnen-esque, which Johnnen doesn't mind (eg roman dirge)

NHansen
November 12th, 2003, 01:09 AM
well, if it were real life, he would be making robotic sounds. But they are in NHansen's comic world, where they really are just reading their speach bubbles. Or something.
yeah.

NHansen
November 12th, 2003, 10:36 AM
haha, i love showing to people and they say:
"oh, I get it."
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"It's binary code, right?"

*slaps forhead*

bustabustu
November 21st, 2003, 11:40 AM
I got the main guy almost done. Check it out here.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=126416#post126416

chadrm17
November 21st, 2003, 01:32 PM
I got it... I think it's pretty funny. nice work

Gunbu
November 24th, 2003, 02:57 AM
Haha, funny. I also like the panels of just the eyes. I think you should try inking it. If you don't want to ruin the original, print it out in light blue and then ink over that and then scan it back in. Definitely continue doing more!

Oh... and Anoon, you're an ass :rolleyes:

Just remember NHansen, if you do weird comics, especially one with dead babies, be prepaired to upset some people.

NHansen
November 24th, 2003, 10:42 AM
Hey thanks man! Yeah I plan on them upsetting a bunch of people, that's fun. Not sure how offensive I wanna go with the comics though. Oh we'll see, oh yes.

kabuki
November 24th, 2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by NHansen
Hey thanks man! Yeah I plan on them upsetting a bunch of people, that's fun. Not sure how offensive I wanna go with the comics though. Oh we'll see, oh yes.

this work is thematically derivative. I doubt you will piss other people off. maybe old ladies or old men but most people dont give a shit how wierd you think you are. you have to work pretty farkin hard to really piss people off. and once they figure that thats all your trying to do, you lose their respect, and any REAL work you do gets lost. and then you get branded an attention .


oh and i GOT the joke. its just not something i find hilarious, it illicits more of a small titter or perhaps a guffaw but not an actual LOL.

and i AM a geek.

however i do think the drawings of the dead baby have potential, although i assume that it isnt your original concept?


as a formal critique of the product, dont make the "fin" larger than one of your panels, as its saying that it ending is more important than the comic itself. and as far as a style critique goes, watch out when you copy peoples style from slave labor graphics. the style is very obvious, and although im a great big freaking hugeass squee/JTHM fan i dont like copycats. as most people copy the panels and character design w/o giving any homage, but not the compositions; which is where vasquez shines. give a little cred where its due. Also this style usually works better inked, and has more impact then pencils.

NHansen
November 24th, 2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by kabuki

and as far as a style critique goes, watch out when you copy peoples style from slave labor graphics. the style is very obvious, and although im a great big freaking hugeass squee/JTHM fan i dont like copycats.

Dude, I didn't copy any style whatsoever from them. Sure, I like Vasquez and his art, but I can assure you I did not look at, think of, or do anything that was related to slave labor or Vasquez while I drew this.

I don't know why you are jumping at my throat, man. Jees, chill out.

kabuki
November 24th, 2003, 09:48 PM
i was being chill.

just relax, i love your sketchbook pages. there are some nice drawings in there, even the puffed is tight.

but as an outsider looking in, and not part of your conscious. i can be objective. this looks like something being heavily influenced by johen's work. and as such it draws comparisons.

its a crit man. not a character assasination.

you also forget i said in the beginning, thematically derivitive, ie similar themed work.


haha.. man if you are intending to piss people off, and are having a hard time with this, good luck.

I dont dislike YOU, i just am not to happy with the comic.

NHansen
November 24th, 2003, 10:03 PM
it's all good.
Well my intention wasn't to piss people off at all. Just saying those kinda things are fun:D

To be quite honest, though, I don't see how the styles are similar enough for anyone to accuse me of copying him.

I do appreciate your critique 100%, and I wasn't really jumping back at you, I was just trying to defend myself.

Anyway, thanks man, peace.

kabuki
November 24th, 2003, 10:07 PM
its all good meng.


i still think you should ink it.