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Odiee
September 11th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Hi all.
My name is Dario. I'm 29 years old right now, and I've been doodling since i can remember. I've migrated from dA here because that place became more of popularity contest then the real art community. (and too much photographs).
I'm not a real artist nor do I strive to become one, but drawing is kinda hobby of mine, and I do want to learn and practice so I can finally one day draw what I have in mind.
I'm not so good at drawing on tablet, so please bear with me until I get a scanner.
And also I'm making this thread so hopefully in a few years I can see the progress I made myself.
Of course, any tips and critique are more then welcome.
For now these are my older sketches:
Odiee
September 12th, 2008, 11:07 AM
Some greyscale study and some 30 sec drawings from posemaniacs.
Odiee
September 13th, 2008, 03:56 AM
More random poses, and Azumi.
* EDIT: trying some new pallete. I'm not too happy about it.
QETALIVAN
September 13th, 2008, 04:26 AM
every one is an artist....maybe you meant you dont wanna become a professional. But art is inside all of us, even inside that stupid politician.
if you realize your art is as valid as anyone else, you will improve, for sure.
(hard work also needed, by the way, hehe)
Odiee
September 13th, 2008, 07:32 AM
More 30 sec poses.
Odiee
September 13th, 2008, 08:23 AM
every one is an artist....maybe you meant you dont wanna become a professional. But art is inside all of us, even inside that stupid politician.
if you realize your art is as valid as anyone else, you will improve, for sure.
(hard work also needed, by the way, hehe)
Hmm... I somewhat agree. But think that artists, and not just artist but every man and woman must first of all posses creativity and talent that could make them exceptional in what ever they strive to become. Weather it's art or anything else. I agree with you that everyone possess more then one talent
but it's that persons choice, should it exploit one's talent or not.
To be able to do art takes a talent above all else. One can practice to infinity but he/she will never be able to become any better then the person whose *into* art.
Someone once told me that it takes 99% effort and 1% talent to become the best at what you do. And that 99% is meaningless without that 1%.
I speak from personal experience.
I'm a C++ programmer, and I do that for a living. And I have seen a lots of programmers that just don't have it. Because it takes a talent to do so.
These people are mediocre programmers and will never be able to surpass me in any way.
And BTW I'm a lead programmer on a MPEG4 video surveillance software. ( AH THE BRAGGING ! :) )
Maybe that 1% is personal enjoyment in what you do that keeps you on top of the chain, I don't know.
So when I say: "nor do I strive to become one". I mean, I do that for fun, and when the it not longer amuses me I will stop. It happened before, and it will happen again. So in other words, I draw when I want and what I want.
I could never imagine myself drawing for someone because it pays money. Like, I *have* to do it. because it's my job. And that is what difference me from many other artists here.
...
I have a C++ to do that.
I'm under influence of a bear...I mean beer, so I might be mistaken. :D
Jasper Flick
September 13th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Fine, call yourself whatever you want. Less talk, more art!
Your drawings feel very static, and... clinical? Can you go loose? Drop the manga influence for a while and paint from life?
I guess we won't bug you to be popular, but to improve. :)
QETALIVAN
September 13th, 2008, 02:48 PM
I agree with you too...I just didnt write a long article to show what I wanted to say, but now that you did answer in such detail...hehe, I will say in other words,
Talent is the match that lights the fire, and its the thing that difference the genius from the mediocre. But mediocre people are just mislead people who took a wrong way, because everyone has talent in at least a couple of things. I am a mediocre singer, no matter how hard I train myself while i am painting at home, and I understand you, because I sing for fun, and I will stop singing when I dont feel like doing it anymore.
But the kickass artists, those pro we admire, got there because an incredible amount of HARD WORK. genius, are an excepcion among good artists, too few to be considered. And many genious are just hard working normal artists who look like a genious to the rest who ignore how much work was involved in their learning process.
in any case, just DRAW! ITS FUN!
Sarxous
September 13th, 2008, 03:24 PM
Heh I don't believe in talent but good sketchbook anyway! :) Can't wait to see some color stuff :D
funfetus
September 13th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Welcome to the REAL art community. :P If you stick around here you can't help but improve. My first suggestions would be to grab the Andrew Loomis (http://acid.noobgrinder.com/Loomis) books, and really read them, cover to cover, and do what they say. Second -- get yourself some life-drawing. Posemaniacs is useful, but you need real, person-right-there-in-front-of-you life-drawing. It doesn't have to be in a class setting, or even nude. Sketching people in coffee shops and parks is invaluable. Good luck!
Odiee
September 16th, 2008, 12:03 PM
@Jasper Flick
Thanks for the advice, but what do you mean by clinical?
Like they are too doll-like, lifeless? What should I do about it?
@QETALIVANTouché my friend :D.
Oh and sorry for my detail reply, I tend to get too philosophical when I drink beer (like 4 of them).
@funfetus
Thanks for the advice. I'm very busy ATM and have a lot of work at my job but I will try to read some of the book you recommended. And thanks a lot for the link I was actually looking something like that.
As for the sketching in real life. I thought of that when I was browsing other people SBs. Perhaps I'll give it a try. But I never draw (drew?) real life people.
I have maniacal scare that someone will come and say: "Excuse me, what the hell are you doing?". Guess it would have to be from a distance :).
I bought my self 2 of that 30cm wooden dolls (models?) today. And some pastels and some skin tone acrylics. I have some drawing in watercolor and pastels I would like to complete and I was missing the skin tones.
(I'm REALLY bad at mixing colors.)
Still no scanner so only digital for now.
Odiee
September 18th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Had an inspiration while browsing JPW's sketchbook.
specifically "Amber has undercharged again" piece.
Though I should try that concept.
His style on that piece is just...wow! Full of emotions. I just hope I won't insult him with my crappy-no-good skills.
Oh, and some skull study.
Jasper Flick
September 18th, 2008, 02:22 PM
I guess "clinical" is a weird word to use... I think I best describe what I meant, when I ask "did you jump into final mode too fast?".
Do you construct a figure over time? Build it up from more basic shapes, and grow it, like from motion line to stick figure, to rough shape, to bulk, to anatomy, to detail? To me such things usually become real and alive, where it otherwise would be flat and dead. Your Naturto(?) art for instance, disregarding everything else, feels stone cold to me. :dead:
I'm totally not an authority, but I think those 30-sec figure drawings are good to loosen up but not the best way to get a good grasp of anatomy. Better play with Loomis's mannequin or draw something real and take your time.
Eh, what is that last thing? It hasn't any underlying structure at all... Grow it! :P
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