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paramnesia
August 21st, 2008, 06:52 PM
Does anyone have examples of published works, mainstream or indy but not a self published ashcan or POD, where the colorist laid the color over the pencil art but and the pencil lineart and shading is still visible? There's no inking done.

If you've seen this done before, what do you think of it? Did it work for the comic or did it in any way hinder it or leave it looking unfinished?

Zaxser
August 21st, 2008, 07:04 PM
I'm not sure of his method, but Michael Zulli uses a certain style in the wake that uses visible lines that look like pencil with color. They tried inking it earlier in the Sandman series and it makes it look like ass.

http://www.dyve.net/sandman/images/poster.jpg
http://kleinletters.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/missfinch03panel.jpg
http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v78/sistinas/collection/zulli-sandman.jpg
http://www.psychotica.net/evb/comicart/wall.jpg
http://www.psychotica.net/evb/comicart/waiting2.jpg
http://www.psychotica.net/evb/comicart/zulli-salome.jpg
http://www.psychotica.net/evb/comicart/zulli-maya.jpg

Let's hope the sites that host the pictures I just posted don't get mad at me for direct linking.

Mirana
August 21st, 2008, 08:07 PM
Mm, I did color (http://hikarikat.com/mirana/seqa/clkwrkgrl_pg12fnls.jpg) on an Arcana book last month where the lineart was pencil only, but it was animation clean-line style without shading.

Doing the shading gives it a different look, but with Photoshop and adjusting contrast, making pencil look dark enough to stand on it's own with digi color is no big deal. (This one of mine (http://www.hikarikat.com/mirana/original/aloiki.jpg) is a crazy old piece, but all the line work and shading in the armor, belts and hair is pencil.)

Viridis
August 21st, 2008, 10:22 PM
Marvel 1602 also uses "enhanced pencils", or color over pencil with no inks. Unfortunately I can't find any high-quality images of it besides the cover, but take a look at it sometime. Really gorgeous book.

Ilaekae
August 22nd, 2008, 02:06 AM
You didn't specify a time frame on your question, so i'm assuming these would be appropriate. It's a quite common method for many illustrators, and was very popular in the late 60s through the 80s.

In order...

Bernie Fuchs (4)
E. Earnshaw (1)
Jo Brocklehurst (1)
Larry Rivers (1)
Bob Peak (3)

Found in less than five minutes with google...

bhanu
August 22nd, 2008, 12:30 PM
ashley wood does a lot of work like that...

tmbritton
August 22nd, 2008, 02:49 PM
Wolverine: Origin

Not the cover, but on the interiors. I don't really think it hindered the art. The pencils were done by one of the younger Kuberts. I'm pretty sure the coloring wasn't done with the "flat colors, make a selection, gradient technique." They were more similar to digitally painted stuff. I don't think that the standard 90's Image coloring look would work without inks.

Mirana
August 22nd, 2008, 04:53 PM
ashley wood does a lot of work like that...

Really? On which book? I thought his technique was "straight to inks without a pencil drawing" and using white-out to cover mistakes for "interest."

paramnesia
August 22nd, 2008, 07:24 PM
Thanks for all the examples so far.

I had no time frame in mind, but I was thinking more along sequential (comics and manga) rather than single illustrations.

What sparked this was a small press comic where the pencil art was just darkened a bit digitally but not cleaned up, thus some sketch lines and such were still visible. I was trying to decide if I liked it as much as the previous inked version or not.