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BubbaGump
August 1st, 2008, 02:46 PM
15 years old
Sophomore in high school
Animator/Storyboard artist hopeful
Please critique!!!
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These are all sketches from life, except the last one, which is a bogus comics cover I made after watching The Dark Knight. It's based on a Bruce Timm commission. Christopher Nolan is the sex!
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3033/carxm0.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/616/arizona4vq6.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9339/arizona3lt2.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4131/lifedrawingyw7.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4581/flutezy3.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1296/coverfinalse1.jpg
Arbinn
August 1st, 2008, 03:18 PM
Hi! And welcome to CA. I'm new here too.
What first hits my eyes with your sketches is that they seem to be, well, chaotic. There's so many lines it makes it tiring to watch these. The basics are OK. I like how the hills look despite their simplicity and the pic inside a car is nice (lol @ mirror :D).
The Batman pic is cool. Needs more shading but it's cool.
Just keep posting. And welcome.
BubbaGump
August 1st, 2008, 03:45 PM
Thanks for commenting! The shading is chaotic because for obvious reasons (in a passing car) I had to do them as fast I could and I just wanted to catch the essence of what I was drawing. And I had an animation cel in mind when coloring the Batman cover so minimality was always the key.
Here's a couple more. These are just misc. sketches from magazines. Just for shading and hatching practice.
Arbinn
August 1st, 2008, 04:13 PM
I didn't know you were drawing moving cars. Ok. :P
The very last picture has a funny face.
Btw. Instead of trying to quickly shade like that (bunch of lines instead of smooth volume) try to take some time just to train shading. Draw a cylinder and decide where the light comes from (the very 1st pic in my sketchbook).
BubbaGump
August 1st, 2008, 05:04 PM
Arbinn: Thanks. I used to practice with cylinders and spheres to figure out how to render shadows and such, but sometimes my pencil just goes crazy!
Here's a couple sketches of my left hand. A bit more classical than I'm used to doing. The pencil turned out funky!
Arbinn
August 1st, 2008, 05:25 PM
These look better than the previous ones.
EDIT. Deleted a part from my post after a second survey.
Jeff Bartzis
August 1st, 2008, 06:06 PM
Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook.
You've got a good start here. I really like that batman comic cover.
Keep at er dude!
Cheers
BubbaGump
August 2nd, 2008, 12:37 PM
Arbinn: Thanks. I'll practice both classical and sketchier, more experimental stuff to balance out. I just don't think there's a lot of life in many classical drawings.
Jeff Bartzis: Thanks a lot!
These are some OLD animal practices from pics. I know, I know I got to go the zoo soon...
firstblood
August 3rd, 2008, 09:05 AM
Definitely check out George Bridgman. Nice studies. Keep posting!
BubbaGump
August 3rd, 2008, 02:04 PM
firstblood: Thank you. I'll definitely give him a look. Those Art Students League people are crazy! I really liked Nicolaides' book but the schedule was impossible for me (school, etc). His chapter on gestures was incredibly informative though.
More animals (really old).
BubbaGump
August 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM
Some more hands. And a dude.
tayete
August 3rd, 2008, 02:38 PM
Thank you for passing by my sketchbook!
I really like those animals, they are well captured.
Mmmmm...I wish I was 15 again, with soooooo much time ahead for learning! Don't lose your time, Bubba ;)
buzz
August 3rd, 2008, 04:51 PM
like you comic batman!!! and you sketches
Kurjuus
August 3rd, 2008, 05:16 PM
hey, good start there. It's good that you draw mostly from life. Draw from pictures, either photos or any other thing you'd like, just as much for now. What you need currently is to get a grip of the real proportions of a thing and copying or much better studying (which means use your brain when drawing from something) something motionless will give you an easier acces to those. If you draw from life you're most probably to add distortion to the image because of your constant change of perspective when observing. As a by product you should also care for cleaner lines. It's something that developes over time but it won't do any bad if you're aware of it as early as possible (unlike myself...)
BubbaGump
August 4th, 2008, 01:09 PM
tayete: Glad you like 'em. But sometimes even I think 15 is a little late. I just started drawing seriously last year (before that it was just copying pictures from comics) and when I see some of the 14 year olds here and what they're doing :wtf: ...it blows my mind away.
buzz: Thanks. Just keep drawing!
Kurjuus: Drawing from photos helps, it just doesn't have the dimension that something "real" right in front of you does. And clean lines pwn! They just...don't feel as lively as sketchy stuff does. My goal is to eventually get into animation (storyboarding, etc.) and it feels radically different from the concept/fantasy stuff (which borders more on illustration and finished work) that I see here. I practice drawing and inking my comics every day so I have decent knowledge of clean lines neccessary for reproduction. I just want to branch off from that and do little gesture-practices to capture lines of action and movement. Hope you understand!
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Speaking of gestures, I wanted to practice some quick ones.
SkyTheArtist
August 4th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Argh, I wish I was 15 too. Lol. But hey! Glad you could make it here. I really like your animal drawings! Your hands could use a little work, but hey, they're hard to do, so don't let this dishearten you. :^^;:
Keep on drawing! Would love to see more :D
BubbaGump
August 4th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Argh, I wish I was 15 too. Lol. But hey! Glad you could make it here. I really like your animal drawings! Your hands could use a little work, but hey, they're hard to do, so don't let this dishearten you. :^^;:
Keep on drawing! Would love to see more :D
You should see my earliest hands. They were an abomination. :wtf: Thanks for commenting!
And just so I'm not shamelessly bumping:
BubbaGump
August 5th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Fan-art break! Mwahaha!
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5176/pencilspreviewbi4.png
Pencils
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5136/definitivetdktasinksdm1.png
Inks
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7383/thedarkknightfinalic7.jpg
Final color
BubbaGump
August 6th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Thanks to Kurjuus, I started my first studies.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8150/tribicepslt4.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1139/studies1em8.jpg
I have to pay attention more to the muscle groups and stop getting carried away with rendering.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4944/studies2fd6.jpg
They're not that good, but compared to my first skeleton (below), there's been a little improvement.
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2463/studies3tp4.jpg
Please critique and help me. I'm always looking to improve!
BubbaGump
August 6th, 2008, 06:31 PM
Gestures!
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3584/gesturespwn1in1.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5679/gesturespwnhp6.jpg
otsopsanig
August 7th, 2008, 02:17 AM
Hey, man! Keep up the studies... I really like the style of that Batman art.
Also, we're the same age! Haha... I started my sketchbook when I was 15.
smuckers
August 7th, 2008, 02:34 AM
promising stuff, looks like you have an interesting thing going with the rawness of your lines.. some clean up and care as mentioned before yes is required for study but once you've refined your technique and become more experienced i think it will translate into quite an awesome style.. so im looking forward to seeing the result !
BubbaGump
August 7th, 2008, 11:15 AM
otsopsanig: Thanks. I'll continue my studies little by little every day. Tedious as they are, I can see how they would be valuable in the future.
smuckers: I read somewhere that a lot of beginners tend to have feathery and fuzzy lines, but I've seen some examples and I don't think mine are like that at all. Mine's scratchy and crazy, I just let the hands do all the thinking--except during inking and studies (well...at least I try not to make my studies sketchy). Thanks for stopping by.
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Drew some stuff from Victor Ambrus's How to Draw the Human figure, but I tried to inject some energy into the stuff I was copying.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2285/69705027vm8.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9294/dancergv7.jpg
humanNature6115
August 7th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Good start, Here are some pointers
1. Get really good at 3d Space.
Be able to draw boxes and circles really well.
These shapes are the opposite of each other.
A box can be turned into a circle and a circle into a box
2. Gesture Drawing.
This skill will make it very easy to envision the figure you would like to draw.
Start with very loose shapes.
3: Anatomy.
know your anatomy well enough that you can draw any muscle from memory.
It is easier than it sounds.
4: Color and light theory.
Knowing what colors work well together, and how light effects color.
Spend about 6 Months on each.
Then cycle back to each exercise.
Hope this helps.
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:mittenbop: :mittenbop: :mittenbop: Sketchbook:mittenbop: :mittenbop: :mittenbop:
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120761 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120761)
BubbaGump
August 7th, 2008, 12:51 PM
humannature6115: Thanks for the advice, 6 months on each seems pushing it, but I did start drawing some cubes and cylinders.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6179/epicshapesoc888.jpg
BubbaGump
August 7th, 2008, 01:47 PM
Ugh. Picture didn't show. Here it is!
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6179/epicshapesoc8.jpg
BubbaGump
August 9th, 2008, 12:25 PM
While no one was replying back, I decided to do a couple of studies on my own. I'm starting to get the hang of it now.
My first studies were just mindless scribbles. I wasn't really thinking or observing what I was drawing. Now, I actually feel like I'm learning something (studying the Loomis figure drawing PDF). Here are some of the less embarrasing studies I did today--in chronological order so you can see my improvement!
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7849/studies4qo1.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2740/studies5zk6.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6393/studies6qf1.jpg
Skeleton's off. I'll keep trying, but I did realize the separate ribs themselves aren't as important compared to the basic shape of the cage itself.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1899/studies7yq8.jpg
My goal is to try to get accepted into Calarts so please critique me with that in mind (if you currently attend or have attended the school all the better)! Help me build up the neccesary fundamentals (anatomy, figure drawing), life drawing skills, and emotion-showing vital to a portfolio.
SaiVix
August 12th, 2008, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE=humanNature6115;1872021]Good start, Here are some pointers
1. Get really good at 3d Space.
Be able to draw boxes and circles really well.
These shapes are the opposite of each other.
A box can be turned into a circle and a circle into a box
2. Gesture Drawing.
This skill will make it very easy to envision the figure you would like to draw.
Start with very loose shapes.
3: Anatomy.
know your anatomy well enough that you can draw any muscle from memory.
It is easier than it sounds.
4: Color and light theory.
Knowing what colors work well together, and how light effects color.
Spend about 6 Months on each.
Then cycle back to each exercise.
LET THERE BE LIGHT!!!
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 12:06 AM
LET THERE BE LIGHT!!!
:sungod:
Some random sketches! I wanted to take a break from my studies, so I drew some stuff. I did do some anatomy studies today, but I haven't posted in a while so I want to post my drawings chronologically.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7771/87062258gy3.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2986/30106134pi8.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9885/20253749oz4.jpg
^^Some crazy guy...
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3508/96042241aw0.jpg
Boxers!
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 02:57 AM
Comments and crits please...
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5572/10cb4.jpg
Rugby girl! I cut off her legs because well...they didn't look like legs.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9936/11wn7.jpg
A tiger and a lamp! The lamp got so stylized it just become a wisp of light...
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9836/12pe5.jpg
Dannelf
August 13th, 2008, 03:21 AM
Great improvement!
You draw very fast, don't you? ;) I recognize it from myself (especially in your age, but still even now).
I know it's hard but you should take yourself more time to each drawing. It will turn out better!
Loonging for more! Keep it coming! :D
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 12:54 PM
Dannelf: I do draw too fast. Sometimes my hands don't want to listen to my brain...
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In celebration of Page 2, some tedious studies.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/344/41451902un1.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1405/32274815dj9.jpg
I like to draw all of the detail first to learn most of the important muscle groups (if not by name, then by sight) then simplify it to see how I would draw it practically.
More coming up.
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 12:55 PM
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7003/16850251nc2.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5285/65671872tm2.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3709/72211361dt6.jpg
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 07:05 PM
A silly comic strip I made based on one of my classmates. It was study hall and we were bored. Innuendo abounds!
http://i34.tinypic.com/v3lp54.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2z52o9s.jpg
Critique meh!
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 08:50 PM
An experiment in photo realism. I drew a couple of cars outside. The car at the left drove off so it's partly from memory...
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/871/15ve7.jpg
I did slow down on this one. It took 20-30 minutes but some of my sketchiness shows through. It's a start though.
ewing
August 13th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Your really coming along. You have a very distinct retro style. Keep em coming!
BubbaGump
August 13th, 2008, 11:04 PM
Your really coming along. You have a very distinct retro style. Keep em coming!
Thanks, ewing.
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Well I got a couple of drawings done so I should be scanning those soon. In the meantime, please leave crits and comts!
Radost
August 14th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Heya Bubba,
thanks for dropping by me doodlesbook. Ive enjoyed yer sketches and've seen some progress throughout the pages. Even recodnize a few traits, like fast lines, sketch impressions and so on :)
However this is a perfect tool/way to get an idea on paper, the one thing i don't see anywhere yet is "the love for single lines" or finished parts of a drawing. Often, your sketch lines are "hard", singular, without variation in weight or curve. Where is thyne love brother? Shading and lighting aside, perhaps its good idea to grab a few comicbooks and copy your ass off (tegnique wise). Learn to fill in all the basics, like dynamic lines, the shape of an ear, how to draw a nose from angles, connecting muscle groups, the difference in a male and female jaw, etc. Why re-invent the wheel when other have done it for you? Try to see/figure out a different volume in your lines, for instance, use a sketch before putting down instant hard lines. The first line you make towards a shape, aint the last, so dont asume it is, sketch with focus & joy. (this might slow down how fast you work a bit)
Above all else, like Marko Djurdjevic (http://conceptart.org/?artist=Marko+Djurdjevic) says: "No fear!", never, no way or ever. Don't avoid what you can't do, hunt it down and master it till it calls out "Uncle" in a wheepy voice.
Puf, wheeze... Sorry for the text Bubba, but I likes what I saws and was going on an impression of what I saws. Hope it connected, else this is a funny peace of uselessy placed characters ;)
Ceep at it and enjoy doing so.
BubbaGump
August 16th, 2008, 02:03 AM
Shading and lighting aside, perhaps its good idea to grab a few comicbooks and copy your ass off (tegnique wise). Learn to fill in all the basics, like dynamic lines, the shape of an ear, how to draw a nose from angles, connecting muscle groups, the difference in a male and female jaw, etc. Why re-invent the wheel when other have done it for you? Try to see/figure out a different volume in your lines, for instance, use a sketch before putting down instant hard lines. The first line you make towards a shape, aint the last, so dont asume it is, sketch with focus & joy. (this might slow down how fast you work a bit)
Wise words! And thanks for the info. I used to copy from comic books A LOT, and was able to reproduce covers and panels perfectly.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1764/brianbollandbybubbagumppy0.jpg
^^I drew that in middle school, based on a Brian Bolland cover.
However, it didn't really help me at all. I had no understanding of the basics that copying from comics was just fun and something to do when I was bored, but not helpful at all. I didn't know WHY I was rendering the tones that way (hell, I didn't even know what rendering WAS...), but I guess now would be an okay time to draw from comics again now that I have some of the basics down.
I also like what you said "The first line you make towards a shape, aint the last, so dont asume it is." I'll be definitely try to incorporate the idea into my drawings in the future.
Thanks for the helpful hints. I absolute LOVE critiques like that!
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Anyway, not technically life drawings but I drew some n00dies from characterdesign.com.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/647/50584866sy8.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/940/45637405hx5.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5354/94092466hb7.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5147/41782643wt5.jpg
They're not that great, but I don't think they're horrible. The drawings really helped me understand a lot about the legs and what I need to work on to make them feel more natural.
BubbaGump
August 16th, 2008, 09:05 PM
More characterdesign stuff with gestures at the side!
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7012/17nb8.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8397/18de4.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3412/16lg6.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7898/19lr0.jpg
BubbaGump
August 17th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Anyone...? Do I have to put tits as the thumbnail of my sketchbook? Because I will if I have to...:davi:
Two versions of a couple of houses I drew.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3748/20tn9.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6254/21dn3.jpg
I honestly tried to slow down but there were so many ants where I was sitting. I wanted to just finish and leave.:bashful:
rebelionature
August 17th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Lol @ ants, gotta pick a better sketching place next time my friend! So you'd like to be a storyboard artist? that's awesome! its good to have an idea this early on. To get inspiration id look at pixar and disneys storyboard work for they are they masters of today. Pay close attention to camera angles, negative space, and the overall feel of the scene. Ask yourself, how will this flow, Why is it there? Can it be removed? Simplified?
Its a great carrier path you've picked and hope that you continue on with it!
BubbaGump
August 17th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Lol @ ants, gotta pick a better sketching place next time my friend! So you'd like to be a storyboard artist? that's awesome! its good to have an idea this early on. To get inspiration id look at pixar and disneys storyboard work for they are they masters of today. Pay close attention to camera angles, negative space, and the overall feel of the scene. Ask yourself, how will this flow, Why is it there? Can it be removed? Simplified?
Its a great carrier path you've picked and hope that you continue on with it!
Thanks a lot. I already have a lot of Pixar storyboards saved on my computer (from the interwebz!) and a bunch of old Disney matte paintings. Old school was where it was at...
Thanks for the encouragement.
Radost
August 19th, 2008, 05:29 AM
Heya, just dropped by and saw the sketches, nice work and ty for the comment. You mentioned storybording, so check out this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXg2reSswpA). It works if you decide to go digital. Really shows the difference and approach to various dynamic shots that get the feel down right. Perhaps you know it :S
Cheers.
BubbaGump
August 20th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Heya, just dropped by and saw the sketches, nice work and ty for the comment. You mentioned storybording, so check out this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXg2reSswpA). It works if you decide to go digital. Really shows the difference and approach to various dynamic shots that get the feel down right. Perhaps you know it :S
Cheers.
I'm not that good with digital. I only know how to color stuff in Photoshop cel-like. It was informative but it looks like too much for me right now. I like sketching storyboards on paper!
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I haven't drawn much lately (I should...more), but here's a couple of crappy hands...and a dude! With wide hips.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6642/22he9.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/690/23xh2.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1023/25ce5.jpg
Senira
August 20th, 2008, 12:36 PM
It's nice to see that you're doing a lot of studies for things that give you trouble. I like the hand pages you just posted, and it's good that you're trying to figure out lines of action in your gestures. Continue on that route and your understanding of form will be much stronger.
Keep it up!
eminkey2003
August 20th, 2008, 12:51 PM
For life drawing, I think it's usually better to draw what you see, not what you think you see (my thanks go out to The7Artist7 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106604) and many others for reminding me)-- looks like you're simplifying a lot of your life drawings. I used to do that a lot, and I didn't learn as much as I did when I started to draw what I saw. Obviously, you don't have to copy it exactly though, and it is a good idea to try other styles. I think Bret Blevins (http://bretblevins.blogspot.com/) (caution: nudes) said he experiments a lot.
Psychotime
August 20th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Gotta love that shrimp.
Evergrey
August 20th, 2008, 04:40 PM
i think eminkey2003 said something very good, and i totally agree with him. I'd say, take your time and really observe what youre drawing. When drawing a hand youve got no time-limit, so focus on getting it right. Dont rush it!
Looks like your working pretty hard, thats great, and your doing good too. keep it up and keep study - you'll improve fast as hell :)
BubbaGump
August 20th, 2008, 07:51 PM
OMG, I got crits!!!! :hugsmile:
^^Okay, kinda creepy.
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Senira: Hands are a bitch! I wish people didn't have them!
eminkey2003: I've heard that phrase a lot and I've been trying to keep it in my head while I draw the n00dies on characterdesign, but I guess I've still got some work to do. I like realistic drawing...it just isn't my thing I suppose.
Psychotime: I gotta love that...psycho...time. >:|
Evergrey: I didn't notice I was drawing too fast until a bunch of people started telling me so. I should've gotten the hint when I was finishing 30 second posemaniac gestures in 15. Heh. And there IS a time limit when drawing your hand...until it gets sore! Buh-duh-dum-bah. *snare* I'll stop now.
Psychotime
August 20th, 2008, 08:35 PM
Jeez, 15 seconds?! I still can't make a MINUTE on that site!
Peetaer
August 20th, 2008, 08:46 PM
thanx for dropping by my sketchbook! yeah man, your work has shown lots of improvement but your stuff is still at a crude level. keep working at it. work on building basic forms (and nailing them!).
DO keep copying(like Brian Bolland pic)! You might not understand why now (or when you were in middle school) but with time you will. If you do that while also drawing from life then all the pieces will fall into place. Just keep at it!
take care dude. keep posting!
BubbaGump
August 21st, 2008, 03:50 PM
Psychotime: Well I don't neccessarily "copy" the poses on the site. If I did, I would probably take a little longer. I like posemaniacs for line of action and gesture type stuff.
Peetaer: Eh. Copying's okay, but it's not the only way to go. I do it occassionaly, but I like drawing from life more. I learn alot more drawing something right there in front of me as well.
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It was late at night (not a lot of real-life sketching opportunities!) so I opened up a Reader's Digest and sketched a few stuff. Sketched them...slowly.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/117/255hd3.jpg
And some characterdesign.com stuff from today. I decided to just have fun with these. Wonky anatomy rules!
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1623/26gd3.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/68/27wi7.jpg
BubbaGump
August 24th, 2008, 06:28 PM
Yikes! 3 days since I last posted. Not good.
Here's some crappy life sketches!
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1437/28ih8.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5641/29pr1.jpg
My sister went to visit the Cal State Fullerton campus yesterday so I decided to tag along to sketch some stuff.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6625/83097042tc7.jpg
^^^ I sketched a lady reading a book. Major suckage.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7973/92447413vg6.jpg
I sketched her again a second time. It still sucks. But it's semi-bearable.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3896/81470868wq3.jpg
I sketched a dude from Victor Ambrus's book. Just to study how he renders form and stuff.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4504/18158143rz4.jpg
Some hands.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/166/24987440xr5.jpg
And some more. They could be better, but I came from this:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9464/11507187vq0.jpg
so... there's a bit of improvement. Right...? Right? :(
ewing
August 25th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Good work so far. By the way, your work does not suck. In fact, I enjoy your work just as much as those realisticly drawn skectches that you see to often at the CA forums. Their is always room for improvment, though. With a little time and confidence you'll see improvements. Your on the right track. keep em coming.
BubbaGump
August 26th, 2008, 01:06 AM
Good work so far. By the way, your work does not suck. In fact, I enjoy your work just as much as those realisticly drawn skectches that you see to often at the CA forums. Their is always room for improvment, though. With a little time and confidence you'll see improvements. Your on the right track. keep em coming.
I want to improve badly! I'm never content with where I am! The realistic drawings are pretty awesome, but they're not really my thing. I like cartoons but I know that life drawing and realism are fundamental for animation-y stuff.Thanks for commenting.
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Some sketchy life sketches at the supermarket.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3715/97529860td9.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9740/44146360uy5.jpg
And OMG!! Photoreal1sm!
Robyn Graves
August 26th, 2008, 01:53 AM
What sort of animation do you want to get into? It looks like you're aiming for a cartoonish style. If that's the case, try really exaggerating the expressions and gestures. If an pose calls for a limb to bend, curve it as much as you possibly can without it looking unnatural. Push the envelope! Animation is essentially life to the max, after all.
I love that you can draw different face shapes, too. Have you ever tried sketching people and really exaggerating their prominent features? That'd probably be a good way to take your already good grasp on face shapes to the next level.
Most importantly, keep at it! I know it can get discouraging when you feel like you need to improve, but just remember to keep at it.
BubbaGump
August 26th, 2008, 02:15 AM
What sort of animation do you want to get into? It looks like you're aiming for a cartoonish style. If that's the case, try really exaggerating the expressions and gestures. If an pose calls for a limb to bend, curve it as much as you possibly can without it looking unnatural. Push the envelope! Animation is essentially life to the max, after all.
I love that you can draw different face shapes, too. Have you ever tried sketching people and really exaggerating their prominent features? That'd probably be a good way to take your already good grasp on face shapes to the next level.
Most importantly, keep at it! I know it can get discouraging when you feel like you need to improve, but just remember to keep at it.
I like how you think. Thanks for the advice. You don't know how extremely useful it was. :)
And I'm interested in cartoony animation. But I'm open to anything. I like storyboards and framing shots when I draw my Batman fan-comics. (LOL)
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I did these a couple of hours ago (before I received your reply). They're semi-caricatures from the Democratic convention on TV (ew, politics). Not hardcore distortion, but some...
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1241/47222466bp4.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2165/10ks9.jpg
I picked up Mattessi's force, so I tried to infuse some of what I learned from my anatomy studies and what he had to say about dynamism (?) into the drawing.
Robyn Graves
August 26th, 2008, 02:27 AM
I like how you think. Thanks for the advice. You don't know how extremely useful it was. :)
And I'm interested in cartoony animation. But I'm open to anything. I like storyboards and framing shots when I draw my Batman fan-comics. (LOL)
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I did these a couple of hours ago (before I received your reply). They're semi-caricatures from the Democratic convention on TV (ew, politics). Not hardcore distortion, but some...
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1241/47222466bp4.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2165/10ks9.jpg
I picked up Mattessi's force, so I tried to infuse some of what I learned from my anatomy studies and what he had to say about dynamism (?) into the drawing.
I'm so glad I could help!
And I like that idea. I think I'll do similar the next time I'm watching an otherwise boring program. I love the expression on the guy in the leftmost bottom of the corner best. I can't see the second image, however. It might be my internet connection being weird.
...Might I get to see these Batman fan comics sometime?
the ANGRY filipino
August 26th, 2008, 04:40 AM
keep lovin' those anatomy studies, they'll love you back!
great start! don't ever give up ok?
everyone can see that there has been a dramatic improvement from your first post to your last update.
BubbaGump
August 28th, 2008, 01:43 AM
Robyn Graves: Refresh the page, the picture should show up. And since you asked nicely, here's a small snippet of my 10 page Batman comic. I might post it altogether sometime. But this isn't a fan-art thread!
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2342/page7pencilsuk6.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/420/page7inkssj3.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8084/page7finalut6.jpg
I know, blah blah blah. Cartoons are bad, established characters, etc. etc. But it keeps me loose, helps me practice pacing myself (i.e. finish a page in 2 days), and lets me excersise some basic storytelling skills. It's a stepping stone and allows me to incorporate some of the new anatomy I learned. Thanks for commenting! I like hearing from you.
the ANGRY filipino: I don't plan to give up any time soon. Must...achieve...goals. Btw, I'm filipino too!
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Oh yeah, some observational sketches from the library. They stayed still! Awesome!
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5585/12yw9.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/4353/11pr6.jpg
Those were from yesterday. Didn't get to draw much today (dentist!).
Please critique, rip me to shreds, etc.
Slither Astray
August 28th, 2008, 02:21 AM
Cool sketches!
Nice that you also stated your aspirations,.. I dont know if anyone already mentioned it to you but Hans Bacher says in the book Dreamworlds that it's real good practice to pick a scene from a good movie and pause it every time the shot changes and draw each shot very quickly.
The whole book is about animation production and his experiences with it. I liked it ^^
the ANGRY filipino
August 28th, 2008, 11:29 AM
" by the way. I'm filipino too"
Hey man, thats good to know..but are you an Angry filipino as well?
just kidding!
One useful tip...when drawing clothed characters, always keep in mind
the structure and form of the body underneath the clothing and how that would affect how the clothing behaves...
I'm still trying to practice this too, but I find it kinda hard, thats why I just draw naked women all the time!
I'll be back, keep on posting!
BubbaGump
August 28th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Slither Astray: Thanks, I might check it out sometime.
the ANGRY filipino: I COULD be angry...if you want me to. As for the cloth folds, I just drew what I saw. It's pretty impossible to determine where exactly the folds are gonna fall. I don't think ANY book can accurately depict it. There's like 1000000000000 possible ways. Thanks for commenting!
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I started some Bridgeman studies! I like it better than Loomis. And I know some people aren't a fan of his legs, but I love 'em.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4989/13fw9.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2895/14hb7.jpg
BubbaGump
August 28th, 2008, 09:22 PM
2nd picture isn't showing, here 'tis.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2003/14lm4.jpg
Critique me. Please be mean.
BubbaGump
August 29th, 2008, 03:00 PM
Some still lifes (I'll never be Ralph Goings). Heh.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6637/29209315ff8.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5302/94077634hq5.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6264/00pp9.jpg
Bridgman studies!
Then I tried applying it to my characterdesign sketches.
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3638/92113834ji3.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7402/71278204qp0.jpg
My scanner cropped this ^^ funny. It has an artsy fartsy mind of its own...
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3031/13986673jv7.jpg
Critiques?
BubbaGump
August 31st, 2008, 12:41 AM
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1931/50927779qp1.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/950/77718409ob9.jpg
Bridgman studies.
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9089/72857963ae0.jpg
^I didn't like how it was turning out so I just decided to screw it and have fun with the drawing. It keeps me sane...
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6400/21243854xj6.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/328/72703344eq1.jpg
Random people! Please crit. :)
BubbaGump
September 1st, 2008, 04:56 PM
Filling up my sketchbook...
I think my linework's getting more economical!
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1336/20003552pm4.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9012/10jn9.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2513/11qk1.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9615/12wr7.jpg
Comparing my past works (even stuff from a month ago), I'm really starting to feel I'm improving. :) Still a long way to go and a lot to learn, but I'm slowing trudging through the vat of lard!
BubbaGump
September 3rd, 2008, 09:23 PM
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7596/13up2.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6519/14ky6.jpg
Bridgeman studies!
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/868/15kt8.jpg
An elephant! Experimenting with line weight this time...
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8855/16zk8.jpg
More line weight stuff.
Please comment and crit. :(
Dannelf
September 4th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Great improvement since the last time I stopped by! :)
the drawings of the animals are very good!
Keep on and have fun!
Smell ya! :D
BubbaGump
September 4th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Thanks, man! :)
BubbaGump
September 7th, 2008, 03:28 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/751/17de0.jpg
Bridgman studies. Love how draws torsos.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7320/18fd1.jpg
Drew some houses outside my old elementary school. I think the composition's pretty lame (should've used rule of thirds), but I thought I'd share it anyway.
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/42/19ih9.jpg
Drew the school bus going home. This was an incredibly fast sketch (4 minutes before my bus stop!). So I polished it at home. I like it.
ewing
September 7th, 2008, 08:11 PM
Very nice life studies. One other thing you might want to work on is perpective. Start getting familiar with horizon lines and vanishing points.
keep us the good work.
Christian223
September 7th, 2008, 08:23 PM
Its great that you do so many studies, keep that up. Heres a critique, your lines are too simple, lines can be very expressive if you work more on them, try to do a slower study of Bridgmans lines for example, try to imitate him line for line and youll notice this more clearly.
Keep it up! :).
BubbaGump
September 8th, 2008, 06:19 PM
ewing: Thanks! I've already been practicing on some basic vanishing points and stuff. :)
Christian223: Thanks. What do you mean about simple lines? Please clarify. I try to study Bridgeman to learn the parts of the body not line economy. :( Confusion...
BubbaGump
September 11th, 2008, 06:19 PM
Some simple figure stuff:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8324/20wd6.jpg
Trying to smooth out my lines with broader strokes.
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2208/21sa6.jpg
This was a really curvy model so I exaggerated the hips a lot.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3954/22ij4.jpg
Some foreshortening.
BubbaGump
September 13th, 2008, 03:49 PM
Hey, guys and girls!
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8688/25km7.jpg
More anatomy studies.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8900/23rf0.jpg
Just fooling around with exeggeration.
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/488/24zx3.jpg
Trying to simplify my lines and have fun with stylization at the same time.
ArtZealot
September 13th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Nice updates, its good that you have so much figure work in here, that stuff becomes more and more useful the more you know. If i were to crit anything i'd say to try and think through the form when you draw. Some of these look like the outline has been paid a lot of attention but understanding the general three dimensional shape of the ribcage, hips, etc. will help answer some of the proportional things going on in here. Anyway, i hope that helps. Cheers'
BubbaGump
September 15th, 2008, 09:26 PM
Nice updates, its good that you have so much figure work in here, that stuff becomes more and more useful the more you know. If i were to crit anything i'd say to try and think through the form when you draw. Some of these look like the outline has been paid a lot of attention but understanding the general three dimensional shape of the ribcage, hips, etc. will help answer some of the proportional things going on in here. Anyway, i hope that helps. Cheers'
Thanks for the advice. The last couple of figure stuff was just experimental stuff, but I'll try to incorporate some more academic drawings in the future! :)
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6831/27sw0.jpg
Arm and hand studies. Yay.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3343/29jk2.jpg
Trumpet dude.
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2668/30og1.jpg
Misc. sketchbook stuff.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1913/26tn1.jpg
While waiting at the bus stop, I drew another dude waiting. He was on of those wheelchair scooter thingies.
Seage
September 15th, 2008, 09:41 PM
Nice to see all the studies. In your figure drawings, think less about the outlines, and more about building from the inside out. Try to understand why something is the shape it is. Im sure that will help you with the proportions (which are not far off) and just generally giving you better life drawings. :)
BubbaGump
September 16th, 2008, 08:48 AM
Thank ye. I've been trying to plan my shapes while doing my figure stuff, but I guess I need to try harder.
BubbaGump
September 19th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Haven't had time to draw a lot lately. School just started a couple weeks ago. :(
Did some Bridgeman arm studies though. They're quick and loose, but the point was to help me draw the arm not to make it look pretty.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6431/31ij1.jpg
Please crit. :)
BubbaGump
September 20th, 2008, 02:45 PM
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6346/33rp4.jpg
Some figure stuff with more gestures at the side. I don't like wasting paper.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5324/35up6.jpg
I think I'm starting to get the entire concept of "drawing with the entire arm." I used to wrist it a lot, then I started practicing with bigger paper. Then I switched back to regular sketchpad size (half an inch bigger than printer paper) and I noticed my stuff is getting less scratchy.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/874/34dj5.jpg
I still have a long way to go (focusing more on line than anatomy in this batch--but I will...soon), but I look back on my old stuff and can't stand them. That's good right?
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4903/37nf6.jpg
^Heh.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4594/32uk0.jpg
Found a dried out sharpie lying around and decided to do some figure stuff with it (thanks Kit!!!). It's not perfect, but it was fun to draw. Plus it's pink!
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6615/36ew3.jpg
Bye for now. Please crit.
Evxyza92
September 20th, 2008, 03:04 PM
Wow, you have a alot of improvement in this sktechbook. I like seeing your commitment. Your lines have gotten alot better, and less chaotic. You anatomy is much improved, but still has room, go and push yourself to the limit.One thig I am doing at the moment is using a black ink pen , and doing sketches of photos with the pen to work on place ment. I reccomend that to yourself. Also try doing just regular old stick figures, and putting them in all types of poses. All the best you are doing a great job here.
geneticmess
September 21st, 2008, 01:19 PM
anatomy has a lotta room for improvement.. check out comic books (the good ones) for some hardcore references..it'll help a lot and make yr drawings less flat and more proportionate
Christian223
September 21st, 2008, 02:10 PM
In my other post i told you to pay more attention to your lines and i didnt exlpain that very well, sorry for the late response, im going to tell you what i think about how you can improve your lines now.
When you draw right now, your lines seem to be very quick and without much work or thought, try changing that, try applying more work and care of your lines because you can express a lot with them.
For example, to draw the back of a girl you do a long and curved line, it seems to be very fast and has no details, try changing that, because you can communicate changes in the volumes and express much more than only a limit of silouette. A simple straight lines is very boring compared to a very sinous and changing line. Likewise your curves lines have no details, and are not much to look at, but if you put effort to add more details and more changes to a line then you can make much better looking lines.
Heres is a video, pay attention of how different is drawing simpler lines compared to drawing more complex lines, with more care and intention to express through the lines:
QhF4fBetN4Y
More links:
http://www.learn-to-draw-expressively.com/linedrawing.html
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96454 (study his lines)
You can study anyones lines, lines made by you or any other artist, by tracing an imaginary straight line on top of each line, that way you can see how detailed it is compared to a boring perfectly straight line. The important thing to allways have in mind is that a line without detail is boring, a line that has details and changes is more interesting.
I hope that helps you. Good luck.
BubbaGump
September 21st, 2008, 09:57 PM
Evxyza92: Thanks. Still a long way to go!
geneticmess: Alright, I'll study some old Rob Liefeld Youngblood comics.
Just kidding. :) What kind of "good ones" are you referring to. There's so much wonky anatomy in mainstream comics.
Christian223: I've been trying to do what the Djurdevic video's been saying (saw it a while back) but I guess I should try harder. Aside from my hands though, my arms are pretty straight and boring. Maybe it's because I'm young and skinny. I'll find another bumpier subject!
Thanks for the links though, those are new to me. I've just been trying to shake off my sketchy line habits so I tried experimenting with smoother ones but I guess that poses another obstacle.
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These were done before the critiques (please don't hurt me). The people on the Calarts forum said I needed to look at the model more so I took their advice.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8329/92745983hh7.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/621/39238595nf6.jpg
I'm just so torn because the stuff I'm reading from both sides is so contradicting. Here, anatomy and photorealistic concept drawings are top priority. Meanwhile, Calarts wants looser, more expressive and experimental figure drawings. Gesture over anatomy in animation, they say.
I want to have a deeper knowledge of how the human body looks and works, but I also like to draw really loose and crazy. I'm not that interested in fantasy and creature stuff (I like cartoons :( ), but I want to learn to draw better (and this is the best site out there to learn how). I'm trying to fuse all the best advice from both sides. I'm bulding my technical skills, but I don't think I'm getting enough advice on how to be good at drawing from an animator's perspective.
BubbaGump
September 22nd, 2008, 01:00 AM
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4533/42uh1.jpg
Another lame still life. I ran out of room but instead of leaving it there I added another piece of paper to continue. WHOAAAAAAAH! I read that's the non-lazy way to do it. The scanner royally crapped it up though so I had to stitch it but the annoying line is still there. OH WELL.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3968/41zv0.jpg
I was at Costco to pick up a chicken bake and had just enough time to sketch this middle age couple. The husband wasn't really attention to his wife (men...). And some hand studies. :)
BubbaGump
September 25th, 2008, 09:11 PM
Two-Face!
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8207/43sy0.jpg
BubbaGump
September 27th, 2008, 01:20 AM
Another Two-Face. Damn it, his face is just too fun to draw. :(
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2470/44wn4.jpg
I just did some figure stuff so I'll scan those in later.
the ANGRY filipino
September 27th, 2008, 03:52 AM
hey Bubba!
yah been busy i see! The posts that I really like the most are the
outdoor sketches you made ( mariposa elementary),
keep it up with those anatomy studies, these will help you add structure and form to your sketches ( some of them look flat)
the guy on the wheelchair scooter thingie looks good! nice details there!
BubbaGump
September 27th, 2008, 09:58 PM
The ANGRY Filipino: Yes, I'm always busy. I can never go a day without drawing (literally!). I'd just feel unaccomplished and there's so much stuff I see around me that I want to put on paper. I'm not aiming for photorealism, but I will get around to doing some more anatomy studies. I like to do a couple every week then apply them to my life drawings.
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I'm switching over to dudes! I tried to have fun with these. They're not perfect. That would suck the enjoyment out of them.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1765/45fb8.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4412/46hv4.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8780/47of3.jpg
BubbaGump
September 29th, 2008, 12:23 AM
He moves! Kinda.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8942/81835855jn5.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9452/27585353eo5.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7339/61525576iy5.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5299/14735909kt2.jpg
Churches are fun.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3139/22191579lu9.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/986/46951929yi5.jpg
Sclark
September 29th, 2008, 12:44 AM
Very cartoony style you have going there. keep up the hard work, you should do more figure drawings, I noticed that you seem to leave out the neck on most of your characters , no offense, but sometimes it seems like they are just heads on shoulders.
geneticmess
October 1st, 2008, 04:49 PM
:)
well yu can look up guys like carlos meglia, Scottie Young (man! he's FANTASTIC!!!! :jawdrop:) , then Michael Turner, Dean Yeagle.. all good stuff.. and of course some of the Marvel comic guys..although there's a wide spread there..look thru the ones I've mentioned above..
I hope it helps.. here's the link.. all these guys are on there.. (you can use the drop down list too) :angel:
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/
BubbaGump
October 2nd, 2008, 06:45 PM
Sclark: I guess it's hard to tell where the neck is (there was a lot of foreshortening), but yeah no offense taken. :)
geneticmess: Not a really fan of Michael Turner (but god bless him), but I'll check out the other artists. I already had that site bookmarked so I'll do so some searching. Thanks!
BubbaGump
October 2nd, 2008, 07:45 PM
Nothing special, just a couple of stuff.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9789/11he8.jpg
An old man I drew while waiting for the metro.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8926/10jo8.jpg
Still lifes yay.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/125/23408933dw9.jpg
Some freehand perspective practice I was fooling around with in Spanish class.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4792/61332330hh8.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5261/85323881na0.jpg
thrilafrommanila
October 3rd, 2008, 02:08 PM
it's interesting, in your figure drawings, you handle it in an almost cubistic style, similar to picasso and the bunch. i actually think it's really cool.
keep up with drawings man!
BubbaGump
October 3rd, 2008, 06:31 PM
it's interesting, in your figure drawings, you handle it in an almost cubistic style, similar to picasso and the bunch. i actually think it's really cool.
keep up with drawings man!
Hey, thank you! I'm just trying to be really expressive with my figure stuff and try to inject some fun into them since I'm hoping to apply to Calarts after high school and that seems to be what they're looking for in life drawing portfolios. But I do do some realistic stuff just so I don't forget the fundamentals.
I'm far from Picasso though...
BubbaGump
October 5th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Some stuff I did for a project I'm working on. It's more of an animatic than real animation (CHEAP FTW), but hey--small steps.
Character concepts:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6375/95326277vs5.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/739/33505053my1.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2006/41705993fg1.jpg
I probably won't finish seeing as how I'm busy with school and all but it's a fun little project to do on the side.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8940/58630263ar0.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9415/74266404oh4.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2855/12755992jz7.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7496/85828328bs7.jpg
Some stills. Chinese architecture is fun to research and draw.
Racasdorph
October 11th, 2008, 02:03 AM
Keep studying anatomy man! I see a def improvement from your first posts! Keep going! :)
BubbaGump
October 14th, 2008, 10:05 PM
Haven't updated in a while, but I've been drawing everyday! Just haven't had time to scan and stuff.
Thanks for stopping by, Racasdorph.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1640/52cv8.jpg
Some Mattessi force studies. ^^
And here's some stylized exaggerated life drawings. I'll do some more realistic drawings after these just so I can soak my feet on both ends.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8384/48gv6.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7396/49yg5.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7236/51gf0.jpg
Tried to give it a comic booky feel, especially with the dark shadows.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6721/50yc3.jpg
I really like this one. I'll probably hate it in the future, but it seemed lively and exciting when I was drawing it.
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I have a little pocket sketchbook that I draw people in while I'm in random places.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4981/55fk3.jpg
On the bus.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5927/54fk1.jpg
Some dude.
BubbaGump
October 14th, 2008, 10:41 PM
And it was only a matter of time...
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4908/page4pencilsve3.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6048/page4inksoa6.jpg
Dannelf
October 15th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Hey dude! :D It looks great! Keep up the same way and you will soon notice a whole bunch of improvement! :)
Smell ya!
BubbaGump
October 15th, 2008, 08:26 AM
Thanks Dannelf!
Please, more crits! :(
BubbaGump
October 16th, 2008, 11:48 PM
Semi realistic...
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4629/56kk2.jpg
Dannelf
October 17th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Okey, critts it will be! :)
I'm not very good at this myself, but you would need to do some studies of the knee. The legs seems to be twisted in a weird angle. The upper body is very good though!
BubbaGump
October 17th, 2008, 08:20 AM
Okey, critts it will be! :)
I'm not very good at this myself, but you would need to do some studies of the knee. The legs seems to be twisted in a weird angle. The upper body is very good though!
Oh haha, I was referring for people to crit in general. No one seems to be stopping by.
Yeah, the legs look really awkward but that may be because of the perspective. I guess I didn't make the foreshortening clear enough. His left arm looks funky as well. Maybe I'll get it right the next time.
Nezumi Works
October 17th, 2008, 08:59 PM
Nice progress in a short time. There's definite improvement between your first and last pages, and I like the geometric shapes you're doing. Seriously, draw those a lot. Every day, at least do circles and straight lines, you'll be grateful you did further down the road.
One thing I notice is your studies from life look great, there's life and form to them, and your three dimensional shapes look like three dimensional shapes. But when you go back to your comic work, everything goes flat and stiff again. In the fight scene with batman and the guy with the beard, they're moving like action figures and it doesn't really work. Maybe if you did your initial sketches the way you do your gesture stuff, and then flesh them out as 3-D shapes before turning them into Batman or whoever, you'd get a lot more life in your comic work.
Oh, and line weight is your friend. =)
BubbaGump
October 17th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Nice progress in a short time. There's definite improvement between your first and last pages, and I like the geometric shapes you're doing. Seriously, draw those a lot. Every day, at least do circles and straight lines, you'll be grateful you did further down the road.
One thing I notice is your studies from life look great, there's life and form to them, and your three dimensional shapes look like three dimensional shapes. But when you go back to your comic work, everything goes flat and stiff again. In the fight scene with batman and the guy with the beard, they're moving like action figures and it doesn't really work. Maybe if you did your initial sketches the way you do your gesture stuff, and then flesh them out as 3-D shapes before turning them into Batman or whoever, you'd get a lot more life in your comic work.
Oh, and line weight is your friend. =)
Oh haha. My comic stuff and my life stuff are really two completely different worlds. My comics are just experiments in emulating Darwyn Cooke (who has a sick flat style). And it's a lot easier to color cel-like in Photoshop. It's really hard to explain. But I like to have some dimension in my figure stuff. They really evolved seperately. I really want to fool around with line weight in pen, but I only have 3 technical pens and they're pretty boring. :( So I experiment with line in pencil.
Thanks for commenting and critique!
Here's something new today:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6548/57nb5.jpg
Nezumi Works
October 18th, 2008, 12:07 AM
Try using a brush pen for your inking. It takes a light hand and a bit of time to get used to, but you get an incredible variety of line weights. There are some good non-felt tip types out there that are lovely to work with, and actually use black ink.
As to Darwyn Cooke, I just took a look through some pages of his, and it looks to me like it's resembling your figure drawing more than your comics. But you're learning one thing to apply to another, neither are in isolation, so you should be carrying those skills from one area to another wherever you can.
BubbaGump
October 19th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Here's an incomplete still life of my uncle's living room. Kinda wish I had finished it, but I was damn tired.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7506/58sl3.jpg
Dannelf
October 19th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Oh haha, I was referring for people to crit in general. No one seems to be stopping by.
Yeah, the legs look really awkward but that may be because of the perspective. I guess I didn't make the foreshortening clear enough. His left arm looks funky as well. Maybe I'll get it right the next time.
That's the spirit dude! :)
The last still life studie showed great improvement! How long time did it take you?
BubbaGump
October 19th, 2008, 02:57 PM
That's the spirit dude! :)
The last still life studie showed great improvement! How long time did it take you?
I actually don't know. I was in a trance since I was so bored. I'd like to make an accurate estimate, but I don't know...:( I was just seeing then rendering the hell of out.
BubbaGump
October 20th, 2008, 09:20 PM
I missed scribbling and gestures. :(
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2602/80101753pa4.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/96/39185819da4.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5759/97527300rk6.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5629/10490784cd1.jpg
BubbaGump
October 25th, 2008, 07:12 PM
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9756/52533483kr2.jpg
Here's a more detailed pose.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5844/83398634wy5.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8805/96068978hm0.jpg
And a couple quick and sketchy ones.
Please crit!
BubbaGump
October 27th, 2008, 01:55 AM
Studies!
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7844/41419594eh0.jpg
Random Bridgman lip and arm studies.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8749/34572960ux5.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7391/10ck8.jpg
Mattessi Force studies! I love how he does his lines.
BubbaGump
October 31st, 2008, 11:56 AM
Bridgman studies:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8785/13xu0.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9800/12bt0.jpg
Figure stuff:
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2081/11km0.jpg
And las frutas:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3327/14pm3.jpg
BubbaGump
October 31st, 2008, 05:08 PM
Anyone...
BubbaGump
November 1st, 2008, 08:27 PM
Mattesi FORCE studies!
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1457/16ty8.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/940/17rd0.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1873/18em9.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4196/19tz1.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1509/20iv5.jpg
And here's a drawing from characterdesign.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/25/15dg5.jpg
BubbaGump
November 3rd, 2008, 08:26 PM
I tried not to focus on the rendering of these pieces:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2749/21je1.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4866/22hc8.jpg
BubbaGump
November 5th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Shoe still life!
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7970/23hd2.jpg
ihatemexies
November 5th, 2008, 09:35 PM
awesome shoe studies!
theres a real feeling of depth and 3 dimension there. maybe some contour shoes next? those are always fun.
and like a said before. for 15, this is good stuff.
BubbaGump
November 10th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Thanks, man!
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3139/25ac3.jpg
A da Vinci study! Heh...
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8522/26iq7.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9529/27ii7.jpg
Didn't finish this one.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2004/24ci6.jpg
And a lame cartoony one. I don't even know why I'm posting it...
LifeWontWait
November 10th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Got some really nice flowing lines in some of these. Keep working at it... practice only makes us better.
Arbinn
November 10th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I compared the first and the last page and WHOA you've been skyrocketing man!!!
Keep it up and thanks for stopping by!
My57
November 10th, 2008, 08:58 PM
hey man, ummm just returning the comment. I would also recommend ya to do some life studies, Hogarth is awesome for anatomy. Although not the most realistic in terms of what most people look like. Like for example of my first two characters on page 3 in my sketchbook. Those guys are from his book and although not realistic to what most people look like give a good view of what muscles would look like at top physical ability. Although the abs may not look very real but they are good to see how they fold and stick out on the figures.
i would also recommend james hamms. Or or i think thats his name...i can't find the book at the moment.
anyways go to this site for any books you think you may need or something for drawing:
www.scribd.com
get the PDFs of most books on the market for free.
BubbaGump
November 14th, 2008, 10:59 PM
Thanks for the comments, guys. Here's some Bridgman heads.
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1141/28mq5.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5353/29pp4.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5614/30tz4.jpg
BubbaGump
November 15th, 2008, 01:28 AM
Here's a really quick pirate character sketch. I just went crazy with this one. I think it shows.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1275/31mk8.jpg
Kalowin
November 15th, 2008, 01:36 AM
hey man thanks for stopping by my sketchbook. I just flipped through yours and I was impressed with the improvement. I really like those face studies you just did, that's something I've been trying to work on lately. oh and out of curiosity what medium did you use on that pirate? it looks good but the anatomy is a little crazy.
BubbaGump
November 15th, 2008, 02:27 AM
hey man thanks for stopping by my sketchbook. I just flipped through yours and I was impressed with the improvement. I really like those face studies you just did, that's something I've been trying to work on lately. oh and out of curiosity what medium did you use on that pirate? it looks good but the anatomy is a little crazy.
I used pencils and pastels. The anatomy is wonky as it's a caricature. I wanted to exaggerate elements of the photo I was working from and push them. I know a lot of people use it as an excuse but it just wasn't meant to be realistic.
Aniviel833
November 16th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Hey, thanks for stopping by my sketchbook. I'm really digging your stylized figure drawings; of course they'll get even better as you improve your understanding of anatomy.
On that note, looking at some of your figure studies, you seem to be drawing the form mainly through its edges (though I can see a few process lines sketching in the spine and direction of limbs.) Even though the result isn't geared towards the more graphic effect you might be looking for given that you want to do animation, don't be afraid to draw through your forms. By that I mean, draw what you think is there even when some part of the body is obscured by another, and even go so far as to draw in muscle groups and major bones. In this way, you construct the whole form and become more aware of the 3D space it's occupying, rather than immediately reducing what you see into lines.
BubbaGump
November 18th, 2008, 02:33 AM
Hey, thanks for stopping by my sketchbook. I'm really digging your stylized figure drawings; of course they'll get even better as you improve your understanding of anatomy.
On that note, looking at some of your figure studies, you seem to be drawing the form mainly through its edges (though I can see a few process lines sketching in the spine and direction of limbs.) Even though the result isn't geared towards the more graphic effect you might be looking for given that you want to do animation, don't be afraid to draw through your forms. By that I mean, draw what you think is there even when some part of the body is obscured by another, and even go so far as to draw in muscle groups and major bones. In this way, you construct the whole form and become more aware of the 3D space it's occupying, rather than immediately reducing what you see into lines.
Wow! Thanks for the critique. I'll be sure to draw through next time.
BubbaGump
November 18th, 2008, 02:36 AM
Bridgman studies!
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2736/33xb2.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7761/34vm4.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3369/35mj2.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1432/36ox6.jpg
Some lady:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8397/32ar4.jpg
BubbaGump
November 18th, 2008, 02:16 PM
Blumpity blump.
Foolsauce
November 18th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Great improvement! You've gotten rid of a lot of the scribbliness of the lines on your first page.
I think that you might want to take a little bit more time laying out the structure lightly on your figures before going into more detail, just to try to get everything more in proportion.
Doin' great, keep it up!
EDIT: Oops! I guess it's mostly intentional distortion? My bad. :)
JailHouseRock
November 18th, 2008, 09:28 PM
Sup mate, thamks for dropping by my sb again,
Your line-works really improving, nice job.
Good studies (lovin the FORCE studies) mate, try to keep those up and draw from life too...something I've got to do more!
Keep-at-it-man,
P.S.- Nice storybords!
matt,
Bigtayter
November 18th, 2008, 09:53 PM
it seems to me that you have a very loose style.You have interesting styles,but im not sure if you are going for the cartooney look or you dont know values.Im not sure,but nice stuff.
BubbaGump
November 19th, 2008, 11:31 PM
Foolsauce: I like to distort things, though not when I'm doing realistic stuff or life studies. Thanks for stopping by.
JailHouseRock: Thanks, dude! I think my line quality is where I've most improved. I love conceptart.org!
Bigtayter: I like cartoony stuff but I also try to do realistic stuff too. As for values, in the comic it's gonna be inked, so it can only be in black and white so only core shadows are shaded. There are no gray tones.
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I did a bunch of studies today. I'll be posting them soon.
BubbaGump
November 20th, 2008, 01:50 AM
Story progress!
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2898/37fe5.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2512/44mx8.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5862/39sp6.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5665/45va8.jpg
And a buttload of studies.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6527/40xc7.jpg
Bridgman legs and thighs!
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4907/41ym0.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/251/42pu4.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7642/43cc4.jpg
And going back to Loomis! I still like Bridgman better because he's a much more comfortable fit for my loose drawing style. I get impatient with the over attention to rendering with Loomis's stuff. I just want to learn anatomy dammit. He's still great though. The Bridgman glove just fits better on me.
BubbaGump
November 20th, 2008, 01:51 PM
I added an extra page of studies. Leave some crits!
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