A vs. P!!!!!!!

[ericpollen]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/large.html

[jwo]

nevermind its a Paul W.S. Anderson flick
thought i could die happy for a second

[N D Hill]

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *tears shirt* Damn you Predator! Damn you to HELL!!!

My favorate movie franchise was just dragged down by a stupid looking, lame ass, cheap, second rate...Predator! As if Alien Resurrection wasn't bad enough. We go from the greatest sci-fi horror movie of all time to something along the lines of Freddy vs. Jason.

[Presence]

See I am at odds with all of this, I have this perfect little world in my heart that is the predator and I am in conflict as to if I should see this or not.

Because IF it sucks I will be forever scarred BUT if it is good then I should better wear diapers to the theatre.

Still...in....conflict

[winjer]

This has to have some sick concept art. Someone find it quick.

[geoffd]

couldn't find concept art, but check out this trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/featurette/) it show's some art from the movie.
i dunno, i'm an optimist i guess, this sounds pretty cool. i've read the comics before, i know the background story, but if you throw all that aside and think about what he's saying, well it might make for a fun movie.
i love the part in that clip when he's showing the three predators on top of the pyramid fight the aliens.... :eek:

[Redder]

No, the story is horrible! The predator species helped build the pyramids of the Mayan people and every 5000 (some long number) years they return. So young "teenage" predators can become men by hunting aliens.

Exo said it best, "NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *tears shirt*."

[N D Hill]

Crossovers are always horrible though! It's like when to kids get together and argue about if a ninja turtle could beet up GI Joe. It's nothing but a lame attempt to draw in both crouds for one craptacular cash in.

[geoffd]

i guess i supported that craptacular cash in when i bought the dark horse comic series way back when. i loved that series and have waited forever for this movie. i also enjoyed the batman vs. predator comic done awhile back as well.


Alien vs. Predator (http://www.jonfoster.com/bigcol1.gif) by Jon Foster

[davi]

we can always hope

[winjer]

wtf why do aliens live in pyramids.

[N D Hill]

I wasn't knocking the art. It's the idea.

...Merchandising executives...:rolleyes:
Magnificent aren't they?

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:EEjMeI3Xr80C:members.tripod.com/~MitchellBrown/xover/punish.jpg

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/fullsize/wolverine36.jpg

[Elwell]

So wait a second... this takes place in the present? So there have been Aliens on earth all along, and somehow they get loose and fight the predators and these humans get caught in the middle?

Totally screws the continuity of the Alien I and II, then, doesn't it, where the Aliens are a previously unknown quantity found far out in space.

Seems like a loose/loose project to me anyway. The only people who are going to get exited about this are the very ones who are guaranteed to be dissapointed.

[Elwell]

Originally posted by winjer
wtf why do aliens live in pyramids.

Because Chariots of the Gods is one of the most overused premises in SF. And PWSA makes Devlin/Emmerich look like geniuses of originality.

[Tedsuo]

Also, the pyramid is in antarctica. So I guess the whole "they only come during the hottest years" thing is right out. Maybe the Thing will make a guest appearance.


This is going to suck!!!

[K-10]

Wow, all this negativity, how about you see the movie first then say that it sucks.
I personally have been waiting for ages to see this movie.
Played the AvP. game religiously and if it will be anything like Resident Evil I'll be taking along an extra bag of diapers

[Beer Baron]

There is a script review over at Ain't It Cool News though the link is down currently.

I fear this movie will ignore the previous films’ continuity and just appeal to the lowest common denominator out there - lots of CGI and explosions. I mean, in "Predator II" they state '...[Predators] are drawn by heat and conflict.' Then what the hell are they doing in the Antarctic? Why not have a few trophy Alien eggs from a Predator ship hatch and escape into a city?

When will movie execs learn they can get a longer return on their investment if they just put out a quality product? I don't know, since the release of Freddy vs. Jason there is going to be a flood of "vs." movies now. I'm looking forward to Indiana Jones vs. Han Solo personally...

[geoffd]

read the comics. this isn't just some new Vs. trend. go to your comic book store and BUY THE BACK ISSUES from Dark Horse. then maybe you'll see how cool the premise to this movie is and how good it could possibly be.

[N D Hill]

I was reading an interview by Ridley Scott where he says that if Alien was released now, it wouldn't appeal to the general public. Not because of the outdated special effects but because of it's pace and slowly mounting tension. Movie audiences have become too impatient and something like that would never get made again because studio executives would never consent to financing it. My art professors loved the original alien, not only for this but the artistic integrity it retains. That's why it's my favorate movie to this date. I doubt we'll ever see anything so original, unpredictable and subtle as that ever again. Now everything has to involve corny dialog and cliche rambo-type heroes and end with a big explosion and everyone who you wanted to survive has. It's all so American. Maybe that's why seemingly everyone but me hated Alien3.

[Elwell]

Originally posted by Exo
Maybe that's why seemingly everyone but me hated Alien3.

Alien3 is one of the best movies about AIDS ever produced.

[Tedsuo]

Capt.Harlock, this movie has nothing to do with the AvP comics that came out way back when. I agree that they were really good, as was Batman vs Predator.

The reason why we are bagging on it is because it's NOT based on anything. They changed the name to Alien (sigular) Vs Predator specifically because it has nothing to do with the comic.

I haven't seen the film yet, but I have had the misfortune to sit through several other Paul W.S. Anderson films. The dude sucks, man.

[Neil]

Originally posted by winjer
wtf why do aliens live in pyramids.

so if the aliens were in las vegas they'd stay at the luxor?

the concept of this is kinda strange. THe predator though HAS to look different or the alien does because alien was set in teh future and predator was set during the present day at least from what we saw on tv.

Maybe arnold will be in it and fight ridly too....

[geoffd]

all i'm saying is that from what i gather, the movie sounds like it will be similar to the comics (ie multiple aliens and multiple predators along with humans) and i was trying to prove that it's not just another "vs" movie. he even said at the end of that clip, there will be plenty of alien and predator deaths... something to that effect. and if he's wrong then this Paul Anderson will suddenly disappear from the planet and nobody will know where he went. except for me :chainsaw:

article about the movie (http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/3532.html)

[jwo]

everyone watch the last 2 minutes of Mortal Kombat right now!!

[N D Hill]

Originally posted by Elwell


Alien3 is one of the best movies about AIDS ever produced.

Actually it was about an alien.

[gekitsu]

exo, i'm with you.

predator always was nice to look at but nothing more. it was funny for its cheesiness. woo, bad humanoid aliens come for safari. wow.

alien is a great adaption of alan dean foster's writing, though. i'm hard pressed thinking about a better book/film adaption.

[N D Hill]

My favorate part is when the predator backhands Arnold and picks him up off his feet. "Rar! Predator smash!"

edit: I just read Foster's book btw, and i was blown away. While it was very good it was the adaptation, not the film. Alien conceptualized by Dan O'Bannon, Ronald Schussett.

here's an interview with Obannon that details it a bit. http://www.screenwritingsecrets.com/dan-obannon.html Also, my copy of the novel says so on the inside cover.But still. Wow. For those of you who glance at this thread and see my posts everywhere, you must be thinking that I'm an alien fanatic...









...Yes. Yes I am. :alien5:

[Presence]

Originally posted by Exo
I was reading an interview by Ridley Scott where he says that if Alien was released now, it wouldn't appeal to the general public. Not because of the outdated special effects but because of it's pace and slowly mounting tension. Movie audiences have become too impatient and something like that would never get made again because studio executives would never consent to financing it. My art professors loved the original alien, not only for this but the artistic integrity it retains. That's why it's my favorate movie to this date. I doubt we'll ever see anything so original, unpredictable and subtle as that ever again. Now everything has to involve corny dialog and cliche rambo-type heroes and end with a big explosion and everyone who you wanted to survive has. It's all so American. Maybe that's why seemingly everyone but me hated Alien3.

Exo I couldn't agree with you anymore man, I am a film student and cinema junky which adds up to about 25 hours a week on my dvd player and you know what, riddles is so right.

I saw the rerelease of Alien the other night and the pacing is one of the most obvious elements in that film. On the radio announcement they were hyping up the new sound and enhanced print but to be honest it didn't make too much of a difference in my eyes or my ears especially in some of the voice over when Rippley is talking to Ashe in the mess hall the sounbd cuts are so harsh you swear they lost half the sound every time Rippley stopped talking and they would cut.

But it is the pure presence the Alien has off screen which makes it so incredible, we tend to fear it more off screen than when we actually see it and Mr Scott does such an amazing job creating that fear on screen.

Anderson has his work cut out for him because to be honest I think if resident evil would have had alternate direction and a second draft of the script the movie could have been something. I just don't see PA's style fitting this genre, it is like asking hitchcock to direct something about marry, PA was given the ultimate chance to scare the crap outta us with RE and it flopped, not because of production design, not because of the script, not because of the talent or lack there of but simply because his directorial style does not create that type of atmosphere for the audience which is crucial when it comes to making the characters of Aliens and Pred a believable and frightening presence.

This is what I see: PA sitting there thinking "ok now we can open up the can with the predators, give them all of these sweet weapons and abilities to create the action. Then we have the humans, the empathy that they are in alot of trouble, we will make them the underdogs so the audience roots for them to survive through brains and cunning. Then we have the fear factor, the Aliens, make them bigger, faster, and darker, oh and the drool LOTS OF DROOL! We mix it all up into the Aliens becomming an epidemic where the preds and the humans almost have to team up to save themselves and the human race."

I pray for all that is good this does not happen...What I do pray for is this

Predators bite off more than they can chew. They come down to hunt, it is a young group of Preds on a first hunting trip and they get their ass's kicked, so now we are left to clean up the mess, we have to go further than the preds and solve this little problem. A group uses the pred technology to help them in the clean up and salvation of earth. Us vs. Aliens in the end, if the preds die by the second act we know we are in a boat load of trouble and have to come up with something quick to deal with this. Maybe we don't, maybe we have to fall back as a race and leave the door open for a sequel.

Just a thought

[egerie]

Ok I've read this whole thread and it's killing me over and over.. it's "FAVORITE (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=favorite)" !!!!!!!!!!!!

I watched the first Alien movie not long ago and I was suprised at the pace it is. I was but a wee girl when I saw it the first time and it's true we're now used to a much faster pace in movies. I still think Alien ROCKS !..
I played the first AVP game to death and *loved* it. Especially those online species deathmatch (2 aliens, 8 or so marines). I'm not holding my breath about this movie but you never know... I just hope it'll be a bit better than resident evil.

[Presence]

Well we are in luck because it couldn't get any worse than RE

[Pencil Soldier]

I'm looking forward to Indiana Jones vs. Han Solo personally...

:rofl:

[Payback]

Actually I didn't think RE was that bad. I've seen worse (like every other game-based movie in history), but I still haven't lost faith in them. So I guess I sort of look forward to this one, even though I know it can't beat Alien 1 or 2. The only reason I think people fear this movie is because of expectations. Same thing with the new star wars movies. Why would we think it's a good movie when the original are classics?

[bat]

Dark Horse Comics had an Aliens vs Predator comic series that was actually pretty good, sadly, this movie is not based on the same premise. There is hope, maybe unlike Independence Day, the aliens will run amok, killing off humans in their homes, I was always hoping to see those ID aliens walking around the streets, breaking into people's homes, it was a bit too watered down. Aliens hybridizing with everything they stagger into alien/giant squid, alien/crocodile, alien/tiger then tearing into civilization would be awesome.

I won't give up on a movie or director until I see each new work. Although Jerry Bruckheimer is working on a movie based on the RIFTS rpg, that will be sad.

b a t

[jwo]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/featurette/

[Sammy]

"A.V.P. 2004 EXTREAM BEATDOWN YA'LL!!!"

Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Stan Winston, H. R. Giger where are you!? They've taken your legend and SHAT all over it! They're calling it AVP, of all the shameless trendy acts......

The origional Alien film was treated with respect, that's why Segourney Weaver won an Oscar..... Can anybody tell me of another science-fiction movie where someone's talent under a great director won an Oscar??

[N D Hill]

Sammy, I strongly recomend that you get the alien legacy dvd boxed set. the quality and extra features are incredable. Alien has deleted scenes, concept art by Ron Cobb, H R Giger and some rare stuff by Mobius. Plus it has comentary, an alternate soundeffects track, the entire story bored by Ridley Scott and behind the scenes photos of the special effects shots.

[jermainevl]

Alien and Predator both were cool. A mix of these two can be great, but i too think that it's gonna be like that 'Jason vs. Freddy' crap. :flamig: Once again an idea that could work out fine, but probably will get screwed out. Partially for commercial succes i guess :ranting:

[Carnifex]

http://82.32.33.62/ae/avp/index.shtml
what i found to this film.i loved all of the alien films,but most the first.it was really the scariest movie i ever saw.it wasn't that scary because of the fast action,but because of the slowly developing danger.even if i knew something was going to happen, i didn't know [i]when[/] it was going to happen, and that made it extremely scary.i've never seen predator and i think it isn't nearly as good as alien,not even the character of the pred. himself because he's like "oh i'm mighty,noone can defeat me",which is a terribly boring thing.after having read some more about this film now,i'm most probably going to watch it,but i don't have high expectations.it's really a pity noone takes time for real good films any more and everything's got to happen as fast as possible.:smirk:

[Sammy]

The box-set indeed rules EXO!

LOL when I was like 11 I send a letter to Stan Winston Studios asking them if they would give me one of the Alien 3 models since they weren't using them any more. :D

[negativespace]

Anyone going to get the new boxed set.
Alien Quadrilogy (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/alienquad00.html)

Sammy: They ever respond to your letter?

[N D Hill]

Originally posted by negativespace
Anyone going to get the new boxed set.
Alien Quadrilogy (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/alienquad00.html)

:eek:

...I just soiled myself.

[jwo]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000VCZK2/qid=1067912583/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-0306466-5583328?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846 on amazon for 69.99

and ign details
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/457/457801p1.html

fox is insane ...wonder when the next box set will come out.

[N D Hill]

That's why I'm waiting before i buy any of the Matrix movies on DVD. As soon as I do, some super delux special edition boxed set will come out.

[Sammy]

That's exciting... so is the upcomming Alien 5

http://movies.go.com/movies/A/alien5_2004/index.html

can anybody say JAMES CAMERON!

Arnold may be in it.. if he can get a vacation from CA

[Carnifex]

hehehe...
http://82.32.33.62/ae/alien6/index.shtml
depending on the storyline i'd choose the director.
ridley scott is really good at creating a dark and claustrophobic atmosphere,james cameron...uh,dunno...and david fincher is really good on creating gory,fast action.well,we'll see.

[N D Hill]

I'm all for Ridley Scott dirrecting it. He started it and it's only appropriate that he finishes it. I always thought they should revisit the whole derelict ship and spacejockey idea. Now it looks like that's what they're doing. Now if only they'd get Giger signed on.