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pale
October 30th, 2003, 12:34 PM
Yo!

Let see what we have here. This is my piece, one of the bunch of these things I already have ready for posting and receiving critism:evilbat: You know what I'm saying.

This is quick sketch, done with unknown type of pencil on office paper with text on second side :).

http://www.isotoxin.com/evilimage/posts/princess_sketch.jpg


...and this is painted thing in PhotoShop. I think it's not finished yet.

http://www.isotoxin.com/evilimage/posts/princess.jpg


if you got something constructive, let me see...

teh fonx
October 30th, 2003, 06:46 PM
the only thing i can recommend is to study anatomy more closely. Practice practice practice thats the only way to get good at this stuff.

Christopher
October 30th, 2003, 08:21 PM
great sketch, and your method of coloring is def. more interesting than mine. ;)

the lips in the colored version are a little flat, they need to curve to the face more. also, i would choose a different color for her fabric, it's blended into the background too much.

pale
October 31st, 2003, 02:12 AM
Yo!

Thanks,

Yeah, anatomy.... Right, uhm, well ... I can say I will never messed up with anatomy anymore. ...still practising...

Due to coloring stuff : I've changed technic of coloring many times and still looking for the best technic... :)

AmishCommy
November 2nd, 2003, 02:45 PM
ok. first of all, STOP LOOKING AT COMIC-BOOKS FOR INSPIRATION!!!!! learn to draw first. learn to color second.

second, DONT'T LOOK AT COMIC-BOOKS FOR ANYTHING!!!! study from life. look at natural colors. natural lighting. keep practicing.

avoid photoshop - photoshop is evil. it is a good tool if you know how to use it. you don't know how to use it yet. avoid it.

pale
November 3rd, 2003, 03:05 AM
I'm sorry AmishCommy, I can't agree with you. I'm doing many things, I'm not gonna stuck with some "real-life" painter wannabe - this sucks. I'm not inspired of comic books... If I will sketch something, I'll paint and re-paint it, if it's looking bad.

I questioned for the hints, helps kind of a... you know. Not something like you wrote : don't touch this, don't do this, don't ... even what?

AmishCommy
November 3rd, 2003, 07:17 AM
k man, don't like the tough love, fine. but i was in the same place you are now years ago and the only way i got better was from paying atention to real life. i'm not saying you sould be a fine art painter. what i'm saying is you need to learn the rules before you can break them. i've seen many people that came up wih a "unique style" but all they were doing is copying other people's mistakes.

ClocktowerArtworks
November 3rd, 2003, 08:32 AM
amish commy- tough love is great. but not from you in that way. your advice was completely vague...you gave no helpful information and did it in a "i don't have time for this shit" way. if you want to critique people on this forum...do it constructively.

Pale- I would recommend drawing from life and books that have pictures of real anatomy and real environments. it's ok to make mistakes with anatomy and coloring and line weights, because that's how we all learn. As far as photoshop goes...play around with it, learn it, because you will need to in order to survive in this world of computers, just be sure you don't rely on it to make up for lack of conventional drawing skills. You've got a good start here...keep goin with it. Learning to take all types of criticism is also important...even criticism like Amish Commy's because more than likely if you are serious about taking your art somewhere you will hear more than enough criticism like Amish Commy's and it will be important to know that what those people have to say is important...even if it's done in a way that seems completely unhelpful.

pale
November 3rd, 2003, 01:35 PM
ClocktowerArtworks - you gain my respect.
I'm busy right now, and I'll post some new stuff later this month. Princess is not my best of works I did :)

In this post I had try to get psychological input / output from small sample of people here on conceptart.org. Respect to all.