Thread changes: 101 heads

[ilustre]

As everyone in this section my target is pratice every day as the one way to increase the skill.

This is about head (profile) 30 min... I know. very slow, But I hope speed up my drawings...

http://www.camilocunha.blogger.com.br/cabeca01_lateral.jpg

[Andrey]

I am a new one here (even this is my first message posted in this forum) and I have some questions:

When you want to create some new character, do you use some photos/pictures/models to help you create it,
or
You do this only for learning to draw the perspective of a human head without help provided by photos?

-I like your drawing and your statement: ...increase the skill. I would like to increase the skill too.

When you were drawing the photo did you watched the computer screen or did you print the photo?

Thanks;

Andrey

[Signature]

ilustre: I like it! The proportions work ... only the chin is a little off I think.
Did you crop away the rest of the head because it didn't turn out right?
Or was that all you drew?

Don't try to work faster. Take all the time you need to get it right.
If it takes too long then do some outlines-only-drawings!
At least until getting the proportions right comes more natural.
I should do this too. It's one of my problems ...

With the shading you are on the right track IMO. Maybe it looks a little wild ...

Andrey: Why do you ask this in this thread?
Ok this is how I see it. I guess others won't agree completely.
Copy only as long as you are learning.
Don't sell the images or put them in your portfolio (unless you took the photo yourself!)
Using reference is something different though.
You may look at images with similar set up to get the lighting right for example.
Never guess when you can find out.

[ilustre]

Hey Andrey, I agree with Singnature..this is the wrong place to post your doubts.
But if you want, like me increase your skill, I discovered a importat thin. Doesn´t exist formula - just draw every day, post here at conceptart, and the critics posted by others will help you grow up.

Thanks for the coments Signature!

As a self chalenge I decided change this thread to 101 heads.
at December 01, shuld stay here 101 heads, painted or draw. Face features study is ok, so 5 features = 1 head (ex. 3 eyes, 1 nose, 1 mouth. or 4 ears and 1 hair style).

Hey Andrey, Wold you like to join me? Post your heads here! we can help withother...

[ilustre]

head 01 - when, for god sake I will catch the likeness?
40min

http://www.101heads.blogger.com.br/kate1.jpg

[Elwell]

Originally posted by ilustre
head 01 - when, for god sake I will catch the likeness?

When you start concentrating on the interrelationships between the features and the shape of the face before you get caught up in the details. For instance, in this piece each eye, the nose, and the mouth are individually rendered pretty well, but their relative sizes and placement are all a little off.

A couple of things you may want to try:

Work with both your reference and your drawing upside down.

Zoom way out to check your proportions. If it looks right at 10% it's much more likely to look right at 100%.

Occasionally flop your drawing (esp. if its a full face like this) to check the symmetry.

Blur your reference way out till you can just make out the major shapes and rough those in with a large, soft brush. Gradually bring the focus back in two or three more steps, refining your picture at each stage. With enough practice you can learn to do this mentally, even when working from life.

Go back to the classic cannon of facial proportions and really learn them by heart (eyes halfway down the skull, head five eyes across, etc. etc.). Its amazing how little deviation there is from these across the whole spectrum of human diversity.

[ilustre]

Elwel, I visited your portfolio. AMAZING peaces!!!!!!

When you start concentrating on the interrelationships between the features and the shape of the face before you get caught up in the details

I will think about it. I fact I remember that I started to draw this piece from the eyes, then the others features, then the contour of the face...
So, I´m wrong? I have to draw the position on the features, check if its right, then draw each feature?

[Elwell]

Originally posted by ilustre
Elwel, I visited your portfolio. AMAZING peaces!!!!!!
Thank you.
I have to draw the position on the features, check if its right, then draw each feature?
Yes, just as when you draw the figure its generally better to rough in the whole pose before you focus on details of the anatomy. It's the relationship between the parts, not just the parts themselves, that's important.

I read an article years ago about how people recognise faces. They showed side by side pictures of people who looked very similar (Benazir Bhutto and Cher are the pair I remember), then isolated and compared their features. The eyes, mouths, etc. weren't necessarily that similar, it was the arrangement and general proportions of their features that was important. (This is why most police sketches are so inadequate.)

[ilustre]

Elwell, You have turned the lights on!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks a lot for your help.

[Strang]

I think the profile of the guy is good, maybe spent a bit more time on the hair....looks flat

good job though, lets see some more

-Strang

[ilustre]

Hey, please, help me...I´m desperate...where is the likeness?
in this assignment I think I started ok, but in somewhere I lost the track...the result is this mess so I stoped...
anyone can give me a critic or tip?

thanks for your attention...
http://www.camilocunha.blogger.com.br/samuelLjackson001.jpg
http://www.camilocunha.blogger.com.br/samuelLjackson002.jpg
http://www.camilocunha.blogger.com.br/samuelLjackson.jpg
http://www.camilocunha.blogger.com.br/samuelLjacksonFOTO.jpg

[ilustre]

http://www.101heads.blogger.com.br/head004.jpg

http://www.101heads.blogger.com.br/head006.jpg

http://www.101heads.blogger.com.br/head007.jpg

http://www.101heads.blogger.com.br/head008.jpg

[geoffd]

two big things right now, don't think when you draw and don't try to get the likeness right off the bat. once you try to hard to get the exact likeness of the model, you lose it cause then you start thinking. make sense? go with what elwell says and first start out with the big major shapes of the face. then work down to the details. those last couple of pics turned out really nice, i got the samuel l. jackson without having to see the reference pic! nice job!! just keep plugging away and it will all fall into place. be loose with it. and have fun

ps - check out the new drawing on the right side of the brain. really a good read

[ilustre]

thanks for your attention, Capt.Harlock.

In fact I have read, Betty Edwards v1.0, and in fact my skills grown, but I think I have reread the book,
elwell says and first start out with the big major shapes of the face. then work down to the details
I didn´t get this on the book, I think I have to pay more attention next time, because now I believe this is the way to next step skills.

Ps: The natural way to draw, did you read it?

[Xen]

the thing with your samuel l jackson pic is that you made the nose way too long. though i could still see it was him without looking at the ref

[ilustre]

:bash: :confused:

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[ilustre]

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