beginning of a long way... (mild nudity)

[Lightship69]

I tend to agree my mate Its getting a bit barren down here can we have some more please! or are you still unpacking boxes in the new house?

all the best anyhow, talk to you soon.

[shiNIN]

Oh it was THAT long since I was here last time? Moving into my first home was quite stressful (some stuff got lost too, I can't imagine how but not the important stuff, every one of my 20+ lame lil sketchbooks and every book of mine is here, yay!), I packed, had plans what to do with the house (I never had any place I could play with) and I need a rest after all the hard times in the last years. The terrace is big and great and sunlit. Unlike my tiny room but it will be cute and it has much indirect light :)

dlincoln83: You can count on it. I love gals and skulls. Especially gals with skulls, the idea of those make me wish I could draw well...

Aragah: Aye! I want to be more productive than ever :)

Ramalooke: Brushes are tricky but I think I would be glad if hard edges would be one of my biggest problems. And Geza is too good indeed, I will draw him more :) I was so inspired when I first met him and the others from Hyrtl collection...

dracken: I don't want to finish them, I want to do my studies much, much quicker and sketchier. I need to focus on the important things and get loose, long studies mean brainless useless copies to me. When I will draw something my own, I will finish it (if I like it enough).

Plissken: Thanks... I think I need to play with the skulls more. Nice colors, skulls in traditional portrait style or something like this. My newest idea is to draw them like shiny gold or something similar. Shiny colorful metal always interested me much, it would be nice to combine these two favourites of mine and I couldn't simply copy that way...
It would be good if I know the shapes and structure of skulls well enough...

in2eternity: Thanks :)

Saramel: I don't even dare to look back :D I remember them anyway... I had a totally different idea of heads even 1-2 years ago... Colors? There will be colors in the future, colors and enviros, I need such studies, I always knew it...

Ramalooke (again): Indeed... But I didn't want to show the orange gal's newest update and nothing more... And sleep and rest and tiresome shopping and whatnot came into the way. And books.

Today's update will be my little coming back to drawing, I always have a hard time after skipping several days, quality was my least concern, I need to draw and draw at this point. In the beginning my focus and the whole state of mind is totally not suited to drawing, I need to bear it and not run away...

Hmmmm... I guess I show almost everything (my new Bridgman stuff from last night is too sketchy, I will play with it more I guess).
Older stuff for Spartan Camp #196. It was too messy to show but whatever.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc196cats.jpg

I didn't miss Spartan Camp #197 just because the deadline was extended. Still, I started working for it late (on Sunday afternoon, of course). Mess.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc197cats.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc197figs.jpg
My first skull got quite weak too. The african male is better.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc197opt.jpg

The orange gal :) It got tidier... But it still has proportion and angle issues, why can't I see and fix these in the beginning?!
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I like these colors... I should do something with them. (I did some blending studies, by the way. I can't blend. I knew it, I always experience it when I try to paint a nude girl.)
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/cols.jpg

Quick morning painting! Doing anything in the morning is a moderately big miracle in itself.
I used two brushes (one for the trees) or 3-4? But they were mostly very simple (33% opacity hard round and pressure sensitive opacity hard round), it's just a sketch and I mostly focused on the colors. And I messed them up a bit, subtleties aren't my thing. I need to look at the whole, not blindly apply bright orange without checking if it clashes with the grayish purple clouds. I tried to fix it a bit afterwards.
It's the sunset from the terrace, I got up early enough to shot it today. I worked from the photo this time. The hills and everything would be much lighter normally, our eyes are way more sensitive than the camera. It's a nice warm soothing sunset, moderately bright but not overpowering orange. My version is more agressive, dramatic.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sunsetwip.jpg

Lightship69: I already wrote all my excuses :D You are not the one to talk, by the way... I'd love to continue our competitions ;) I planned to draw a _realistic_ elderly woman to please your choosy nature though :D Old faces are very interesting :)

[LtPlissken]

Ahoy there, welcome back!
I like the stuff above, definitely
like the sTuFF. You are the man.
Congrats on the new home btw.
I will come to visit you soon.

[Naidy]

Ah, I love your diligence when it comes to studies. Your attention to detail is seriously getting better. Just comparing old studies of figures to the last and you see a big improvement. You must have much more patience than me. xD

Anyways, always good looking through your stuff. Keep up the good work, mate!

[shiNIN]

Plissken: I didn't even really started... I really hope my SB would be much more interesting some time later.
Oh yeah, I want nice parties here! Have I told you we even have a big pool? ;) And fruit trees. I personally love fruit trees.

Naidy: I'm usually not diligent but sometimes I get stubborn. The "orange gal" is a strangely hard one, some more work and I reach the amount of time I spent on the Landseer study. Blending is kinda impossible for me.

I was tired today... and yesterday... I rode my brand new bycicle and it's something different in a hilly environment... I'm so out of shape anyway.
So I was tired and my mind wandered off. I barely drew anything, most of this was made yesterday:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/bridgman.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc198opt.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc198b.jpg
Very messy but I spent much time on these :( I need to get over this period...

Oh I never wrote about a painter guy I met in the nearest city (reachable by a bycicle)! He founded something called Avantgarde Art Demonstration. He buys materials and makes cheap canvases and easels for poor young artists :) He invited me to join this thing (even if I'm not that young and poor), we can talk and drink some tee or coffee or whine or anything and work together (I mean, in the same room) in a small group. The place is tiny but there were a few paintings on the wall, some books... We talked till I noticed my boyfriend (who found this place and showed to me) got really bored :D I'm the one who can't be productive all alone, at least now, I need others. CA is a nice place but some real meetings are something different :) We'll see!

[Lightship69]

Thanks for the shout my mate, dont worry I havnt jumped ship and left for pastures new I have just been busy is all.

I will post soon, I promise. I cant promise that the stuff that I post will be any good mind you!! LOL

All the best my matey.

[Wassim]

Awesome work here , i like your figure sketches and all the things around , i recommend to draw tradionally , i'll have more control in the pencil :)
keep the good work :)

[shiNIN]

LightShip69: The main think you will practice and post your stuff ;) It's always sad when I kinda like someone and their sketchbooks and a day it's all forlorn :( I lost some pals on CA this way. There are some SBs like a second (third, fourth...) home, but at least not just a SB from the many... Aww I can't explain it. You just keep updating, okay?

WaSsiM: Thanks. Hm, to tell the truth, I not just draw very little recently but I almost completely stopped drawing traditionally. Of course it can't stay like this for long, my pencil sketches are important for me. But they are always very simple sketches, I can't do something good looking without the help of digital media :( But it's okay for now, main thing I should draw, anything. And control isn't one of my biggest problem since I used to my huge tablet anyway.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc198bisons.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/5mins.jpg

[dracken]

Nice stuff. Good updates here.

I really like that study of the woman. The colors look pretty good, even if a bit on the orange side.

Try using harder brushes though. I think your work could really benefit from some hard edges.

[shiNIN]

I can't concentrate on my drawing, I need to write a post without an image.
I wrote these too many times already and I won't write it down again.

1. I practically always use 100% hard brushes.
2. I probably would get hard edges using 100% opacity all the time but I can't do it. I tried. It annoys me as much as thin lines for line sketches and stop drawing anyway.
3. I don't give a damn about hard edges at the moment. I have way bigger problems.
I don't even care about quality at the moment. I can't afford that luxury. My mind is very seriously blocked, it's years now and some continuous practice would do good I'm sure and I fight for it but it usually doesn't happen.
I really don't know why I am doing this instead of giving it up, I'm clumsy and I show no signs of imagination or anything but I can't help it.
I like to have an SB even if it has no value whatsoever.

I will update later today. The old boring copy stuff, I hope if I can do them now, I'm very tired and my spine isn't in its best shape (after some tiring bycycle riding, it was the rare type of motorbike riding when one needs their own strength too. nothing fancy just some very very VERY bad dirt road. and stones and sand and pits. with a cruiser :D). I don't really know how will I stand up tomorrow. The stairs are bad enough to climb now. And it all affects my mental and emotional state.

[Ramalooke]

Well doing studies are beneficial for sure, but you probably are loosing lots of things you have learned doing those studies, cuz you don't apply them to your imaginative work. You need do shit from your imagination. You can sit whole day and keep whining that you are blocked or simply start doing shit ;) I encourage you to start doing some fun stuff xd Draw a pony, or a mermaid or a pony mermaid, whatever ;) Cheers

[shiNIN]

Ramalooke: Yeah I know but it doesn't mean I can do it. I plan to do things but I don't even start it. Enviros, the human form of my bike and so on. It just doesn't happen. I can't try it harder. There's some stronger force on the other side. It's probably me but I have no control of it, it seems. FML.
(By the way, I drew 3 girl heads from an anime today. It was a tiny success even if they got bad except the kinda realistic one, chibi faces are much harder)

I worked on the first 5min head. Bad I know but it's just a worthless copy anyway so no one should care (it's just a fact without much emotion, I'm damn tired):
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/massai.jpg

[dracken]

Oh, I just read your reply to my post.

I am sorry if I offended you, I honestly didn't mean to.

The whole hard edge comment was just me being stupid and posting before I thought things through.
I just looked at stuff like that girl in orange or the Bison's and they looked good. Even the last face study you posted here looks good, much better than the 5 minute studies you posted before (at the end of post 758 )and I thought you were experimenting with different brushes between those studies or what not.

I thought I was helpful and I feel horrible to read that because of my comments you feel like giving up on your SB and work. Your work is inspiring and I browse your sketchbook regularly to keep motivated when I hit rough spots. Please don't feel discouraged. Art is incredibly hard and it's people like you that make it easier to get through the struggles of grinding through studies.

Your SB has value, not just for you, for me and I'm sure for many other people who can look at your work and learn how to push forward.

Again, I'm sorry if I gave off the wrong impression and please keep up the good work.

[shiNIN]

dracken: Oh no, it's me who's sorry :( I know my sketches seem blurry even when I use a hard brush but I can't change it right away and everyone comments about it :( And as I said, it's not my greatest concern. I would be happy to draw sketchy blurry but not wrong sketches, especially by myself :D
This all struggle is stressful and I have my own opinion of things so I'm not the nicest SB owner. I know that.
Thanks for your support, I really appreciate you keep visiting this SB where nothing really interesting happens. Maybe in the future. I'm seriously stuck right now :( But I got bored with anything else too so I will squeeze some stuff out of me till I remember how interesting drawing is.

I started to draw a sunset from memory but too much time passed and I forgot what the sky was like.
It's before 6am and I almost never am awake at this time... Not like it's a valid excuse, I can't draw enviros because I barely ever did that and I just copied every time :D
The trees below couldn't interest me much and some clouds are missing but I couldn't figure out where to put them.

But there will be another sunset soon ~

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sunsetbymyownwip.jpg

[EDIT] 40 minutes later... Still no sunset and I still have huge problems with clouds... But after looking at the sky, I did this:
Even the real thing isn't spectacular but I like colors so I was inspired enough. It would be great to paint scenes in every kind of light one day...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/beforesunset.jpg

(The hills and trees will change shape every time. I won't memorize them and they are kinda boring anyway, I wish to make them slightly bigger and good-looking, but they are just wavy lines for now - just like the original. I saw them from different perspective from every window, I see much more from the lake from the second floor.)

[qlotzan]

wow the dear artwork looks amazing. I believe that you spent lots of time to
be like that.

grey scale study the best when you do some anatomy and faces

keep it up my friend

Qlotzan;)

[shiNIN]

glotzan: Thanks. Well I was awesome at choosing my reference, Landseer deserves most of the praise I got because of this painting ;) The deer? I drew that in a somewhat long period, I worked on it multiple times, I guess total time was somewhat more than 10 hours..? Almost all of it was really fun because the original was so nice and interesting and colorful. And no smooth blending was needed (I suck at it horribly, the orange nude drives me crazy too), he has fur, not nude skin :D And I could do my best because I had fun and was inspired.

Oh I have three stars now. Suits my topic much, much more :D

Today I just played with my brushes, checking which suits clouds and drew nothing just this:

I tried to draw my lovely, beautiful, beloved decorated bronze skull I treasure so much (skull. pretty. shiny. Herz, was begehrst du noch mehr? Hmmm... "oh heart, what else can you wish for?" something like this) a few times already but I always had to gave up. But I can finish it this time. Yay.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/bronzeskull_wip0.jpg

[in2eternity]

Nice updates, espesially that last one)))

[Satu]

Hi there shiNIN! You have a really beautiful sketchbook here. I really enjoyed going through it. Your studies look really nice and you've made a really good progress. Keep up the great work! Subscribed :)

[Lightship69]

Hi buddy

I found some stuff in the wip section on clouds that might be worth a look for you, and some of the other guys added to it too.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=227451

Hope you are well, keep up the good work!!

[FUZION PREDATOR]

You really improved i jumped from page 1 to Last and the difference is unbelieveable. I recommend you to read Andrew Loomis' book "Drawing the head and the hands" or Burth Hogan's "Dynamic figure drawing" the first one being better, it's really well explained, just gotta to be patient assimilate everything. I often take a look at it to refresh my memory.
Anyway the progress you made is huge !

[shiNIN]

Wow, my SB got a bit busy :D
Meanwhile, I did, like, nothing today. The sudden cold finally hit me, I wasn't too fresh and I always forget I simply should read and copy some book at those times... *sigh*
I shot the sunset but did nothing with it yet.

in2eternity: Yay! It's such a mess and totally wip but you already can tell what I can, it's not a bad start :D Thanks. I will definitely finish it soon, today I started to paint when it was almost dark and I prefer natural light even though this skull would look nice in lamplight too.

Satupeikko: Thanks! I feel honored :D (I should to look at my SB pages sometimes too, I guess it's nicer than I remember, because I saw all the ugly starts and the failed sketches I never showed anyone and the times I didn't draw. Seeing old stuff can be refreshing and good for my spirit, I experienced that already.)

Lightship69: Thanks but I followed that topic even after I posted there. Bob Ross was fun to watch... I guess I just need to look at clouds (I LOVE that) and paint them :D And learn how to arrange them nicely...

FUZION PREDATOR: Years have passed, after all... Oh and I didn't always have this big tablet... But I learned some stuff, indeed. The difference isn't that great if one compares my not refd stuff, though. Except heads. Oh really, heads. I keep neglecting them. It's bad. What will I do on Self Portrait Day?!

Just a very quick and lazy wip. Refd of course. I think I need to do such things. It's no big deal to paint something kinda nicely in several hours (of course it might be but that's not the point now :D) but I usually produce crappy stuff if I have a very limited time (especially if I know it will be a long study) and I often feel lost in the beginning too.
Hmmm but I don't like when I just use a color that seems similar to the original without thinking about colors or creating my palette in the beginning. I won't always have a reference to depend on. I actually like to think about colors a lot but I need to do it and experiment with it more.
Whatever, here's the pic:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/frogwip.jpg
(Back to my fixed opacity round hard brushes, I used 85% and 33% opacity I guess. And some fancier own brush)

[Black Spot]

I wouldn't worry about the brushes. Do a still life instead of copying or imaginative. And stop being so depressed all the time - that's an order.

[dracken]

Thanks for stopping by my SB. It's really encouraging to know someone else is looking at my work aside from me and those I force to take a look :)

I also like that little frog, looks very content and pretty well rendered :)

Now please give us more life studies

[shiNIN]

I'm in a special mood, maybe it will shown in this post.
I did nothing nice, I just need to use the attachment manager for a Spartan Camp image so I'm here.

Black Spot: I'm not really worried about the brushes at this point but I can't forget about them either :( Pencils are so much easier, their "settings" are okay to me (at least when I use my fav ones) but they have other problems :D
I'm not depressed at all but I can't stop being critical, especially in my inactive periods.
Still life? Good idea, I like them. Mines are usually very simple, just one object (a simple one where there's a chance to finish painting before I lose my patience). I even got a few edible model. I ate the apple, I have some nuts and a handsome onion on my desk. The onion is especially seducing but I'm an even harder nut than its companions.

dracken: I dunno why but I feel it very easy to pop in your Sb and saying whatever I think so you can count on it in the future too I guess... Life drawing is something I neglect too much, I really, really try to change that. My goals, dreams, plans, ideas and intentions are tired to shout at me to focus on them more...

I was busy with doing other stuff and drew little. I feel too well to feel bad about it ;) I feel much closer to drawing than lately, I have ideas and actual desire to draw and learn, I see the roses, not the thorns :D No, I just think thorns have wonderful shapes and I don't mind them anyway ~
My state are perfect, it's just the last little gap that separates me from another version of me who's actually practicing... I'm looking forward to the near future.

I wasn't in my best shape, no, but there are times when making strokes no matter the result is what I can do. I always forgot to shot my paper sketchbook, these are the digital ones in their ugliness. Whatever.

Photo refd. The usual bad relationship of me and ellipses...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/greentea.jpg

Frog wip 2:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/frogwip2.jpg

Figures... I think it isn't visible but I totally wish to change my approach, I don't want to produce copied stuff without a much, much deeper understanding. Well it was always my goal but I'm more serious about it now.

[Aragah]

hey man! whats up?!?

you seem to have been keeping your stuidies going :)
variety is great, <3 those (bull?buffalos?bisons?) and the frogs studies

[shiNIN]

Aragah: Thanks :) Those were bisons. I love animals, I often draw them for Spartan Camp, they are so much easier to draw than humans (well because we spot flaws in humans much more, naked bodies doesn't help and so on - and my mood is better when I draw just animals, no very bad memories ~).
I wish I had a better variety. Especially own stuff, some creativity but at least enviros. I believe drawing enviros would do good to me.

These are from my newest sketchbook, I started it when I moved here. One month, little stuff.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc199trad.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc199trad2.jpg

[Lav]

wow, it's almost hard to believe that this recent work and the drawings from the first page are from the same person. You've improved a lot, it's very motivating to see :)

[LtPlissken]

I like big outdoor swimming pools, especially in wintertime,
when they are full of muddy water with some corpses floating around.
I just so much like when you are less diligent and more stubborn, because
that whats makes the corn to pop more. Let's say something about your
figure studies in #755; I had to say something about these cause I felt
how you strangled your inner demons in a shallow pond of bitterness.
All you have to do is to keep on doing figures like these are and to
analyse them from time time and keep correcting yourself with red lines.
You say that it's messy but I like it messy. Even that white stocking girl
with a body builder neck like it messy. I felt how your improvements clicked
to a second level here. I am so proud of you that you met that painter guy
and reached him with a bicycle. I also reached once a guy with my bicycle.
I hid his body in the nearest bushes behind the city thrash cans. You see,
the offer that the artist gave you in that small room sounds really tempting.
The windows could be steamy and messy till the end of the day. Ah,
what a beautiful life.
Those mixed big and small animals in the post #758 are shiny and greasy
enough. They surely got my attention. I just love how you melt your innocence
into those soft nature loving animal beings. Your hands are soft and tender.
The five minute face study sketches are really fine. I think that I recognize
the first face, its kind of a dark tanned Brazilian boxer after his title shot fight?
Am I right? The other two are looking pretty much ok too, they are such
a charismatic persons. I like how the third one is thinking. He is thinking
like; "hmmm, what did I eat for breakfast?" or something like that.
You are so awesome, I like how you eXpress your deep feelings through
these sentimental conservative faces.
I realize now that it was not that boxer that I thought that it was, when
I saw your #762. It is a she. But her eye is a bit closed, the right one
from the viewers point. Maybe she got molested by her husband. In
either way, your grisaille paintings are getting better and you are just
starting to get the hang of them more and more. You are a magical one.
#766 - I like when you are playing with your brushes. Please play more
with them. The lovely decorated bronze skull that you adore so much came
out really outstanding. I like the expression on that skull. Have some deep
emotions inside it. Das Herz is so geil. Wieder und wieder daschon. It
reminded me a bit on Dr. Jürgen von Scneeschtein. Simply beautiful.
Good to know that you have started a new sketchbook, hope you are
feeling great in your new house. Just as Lav wrote, it is so amazing to
see your progress from day one till the last page. I also get excited when
you implement some naked girl poses in your drawings and paintings.
That's all for now, I tried to review your latest work in a real effective
fashion. Hope it helps you a bit. We will see each other around, you
just carry your brushes with you all the time. Cheers.

[Lightship69]

I like the old witch sketch up there, are you going to do anything else with her? it would be a shale not too you captured a sense of malevolence in the eyes, the face is smiling but the eyes not so much its good.
I do enjoy good expressions, dont I! silly old fool that I am.

All the very best to you my mate, stay well and keep posting.

[Kerah]

Good studies mate, especially loved the cup of tea (although the general shape is a little off, but the colors and the tiny bubbles of air do it for me).

Do you often concentrate on working from imagination also?

[AlexTooth]

Good to see you working super-hard mate. Just keep up the practise, is all I can say really, push it as hard as you can :) Doing all the right stuff!

[Aragah]

just do enviros then man!!! dont be afraid!
go!!!!
hehe i also feel that way with my own stuff, always the same characters and stuff, i need to get more creative

[dimi]

dude you re doing great i would love to see more faces and figures!! and thanks again for commenting!!

[shiNIN]

Oh hi how many new comments, I so totally don't deserve that, thanks ~

Lav: If those years would have spent without any change, I'd be a massive failure... But I did so little this far...

Plissken: Yeah, some water corpses definitely add to the atmosphere of a tranquil winter scene.
The girl with that neck: I could talk about big brushes and hairlocks in disguise but it's better to say the eternal truth: "Accidents happen."
I don't want to spend more time on my reply, my time management is crazy today too, heating, nutcracking, photo/ps/texts for this single update, they all took much time. Besides, we played with our brand new chainsaw in the sunshine, it was fun, I'm sure you can imagine that. Thanks for your looooooooooong post, I immensely enjoyed it, I even had to cut it into smaller pieces, your texts are too intense, I didn't want to get overloaded.

Lightship: Oh, that anime-witch (it was a male in the anime but I converted to into an old hag, I love funny old hag witches :))? Indeed, I should play with her in Photoshop... Hopefully I won't forget it this time, I have much more ideas I realize.

Kerah: I'm so bad with simple forms but I love to play with colors and bubbles and shiny stuff :D Thanks.
Imagination... I'm usually totally blocked with a dry imagination (and if I have ideas, I simply can't draw them), so I usually copy... My new own home healed me a bit so I drew a bit more from imagination but nothing fancy this far... I definitely will go into that direction, I had enough. I don't learn enough from copying, my memory does its best to escape work.

AlexTooth: I think I'm as lazy as ever but I won't let myself stop anymore... Now I start to discover the joy of drawing again, I did a heroric but pathetic work as a hedonist with an unhappy life, trying to force myself to draw because I couldn't have another option... It's much better now.

Aragah: I dunno where are the pretty clouds when I try to draw them (not in my memory, that's sure) but there will be some sky and land and whatnot in the near future I hope.

dimi: There will be faces and figures, I can promise this much :D

Well... Not much but I doodled and copied anime and whatnot with pencil... I don't show the failed experiments of heads from more interesting angles, the stuff I copied from other CA members' works and the way too anime ones (they are crappy anyway). I usually don't show the obviously anime copies but some had to stay this time *shrugs*. There are dot nipples so it's time to use the upload manager.
The stickman skeletons often are unrefd. It's an important step to me, no matter how simple they are.
And I studied armor yesterday!!! I never gave a damn about such stuff so I knew, like, nothing about them because I need to watch something with a curious mind to remember it afterwards. It's better now, too bad I spent hours without actual drawing again...
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A tiny lol. I'm childish I know.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/animeref_ornot.jpg

I barely touched PS, I'm rusty with it again. And what is patience I wonder. My model is so handsome, I will try to paint it later too. (I had a cute apple too but I ate it.)
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/onion.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/anatdood1021.jpg

[Ramalooke]

It was a while since I postet in your thread. It doesn't mean that I'm not visiting it. On the contrary, I'm watching you pretty systematically. Sadly I don't have any usefull advice for you cuz you are doing pretty much the same stuff and I said everything I had to say in my previous comments. But I can give you a word of encouragement. You got great potential, only thing you need to do is get out from you comfortable zone. I guarantee that as soon you do I'll see improvement. Keep working. Cheers ;)

[Black Spot]

I went through a phase when I based the week's menu around vegetables that I found interesting to draw. Draw first - eat later. Onion needs more work on it. Don't be afraid of over cooking it (so to speak) as by pushing it, you'll learn tons.

[shiNIN]

Ramalooke: I can say the same, I visit your SB but I don't always can find words that have a chance to be useful... I know, I know, I totally plan to do various things (look, look, I drew an armor, it's something outside from my comfy zone, not like I really have something like that, I can't even draw faces well), it feels I have the mood/state for it now! Yay.

Black Spot: But apples are way more tempting as a food than as a model, to me... :bashful: I know, poor onion was a victim of my rustyness and impatience. I will draw it again when there will be enough natural light again, I still prefer that, strong artificial light tires me.


Foggy, dark day. I didn't draw much and now I kinda miss it :D It's a nice feeling... But I still rush things, maybe I dunno where to start, I need to learn everything...
I worked on the frogs (brainless copy but merely doing something in PS must be useful, I'm so rusty and never was good at the slightest - but sometimes I wasn't completely loss):
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/frogs2.jpg

A very quick photo study, too bad I started with lines... Ariel, my favourite gal among all the ones I've met on gracefulnudes.com :heart: Obviously wip, I had no time for the face, such small faces are hard to me anyway.
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Oh and I did something for FUN and by myself :D Maybe too silly but whatever :D They are wips at most but probably even less than that, just some ideas. The magical girls from Puella Magi Madoka Magica, in that simple skull-cutie form...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/pmgirlskullswip.jpg

[devastacio]

Hey there,

How you’re doing? Hope everything is alright and you’re feeling generally optimistic. Its good to be back here and checking everyone’s SBs. I won’t be mentioning about every update but ill try write down which worth mentioning here within the spare time I have. So let’s get to the details…

Nice bunch of quick figure drawings @ #550. I strongly believe that these are the ones that’s a going to help you a lot. They take little time but helps you to memorize important details such as proportions etc etc.

If my eyes are not tricking me, im pretty sure the quality of your paintings has gone up. I immediately noticed this from the post #556,#567 and #569. I guess you’re getting a good understanding about sharp and soft brushes and when to use them. Good work and I’m hoping to see more in the upcoming pages.

#571 – This is great! She looks lovely and great job at the figure painting too. You have nicely captured the subtle skin colors there. Of course there more room for improvement, keep adding more details as you get the hang of painting and you’ll get there eventually.

# 594 – Cute piglets! and nice couple of ref drawings too. I say it’s good job given the time frame you have used. :)

# 598 – Good work here again. Seems to me you’re gaining a lot of patience and adding more details into your paintings lately, which is a good sign. Keep it up!

# 610 – This immediately caught my eye. You’ve done well to capture those highlights on the lips. Juicy!

# 615 – Great material study. You have captured the lighting details brilliantly. Well done.
# 619 – Nice work again but I feel something is missing, is that the sharp highlights which is missing? Or some hard shadows? Hmm anyways I could be wrong.

# 653 – Absolutely stunning piece. Great job! Have to mention that the brushwork is nice and tidy too.

# 657 – You should have continued. But that’s me. Anyways it looks alright. How many hours did you spend on this?

# 673 – Cool piece of work. I guess you have added as much as details possible within your time limit. Didn’t I mention that they look so cute?

# 699 – couple of decent figure paintings, despite what you think. Don’t get discouraged.

# 713 – Cup is little out of shape but good brushwork (and Highlights).

# 728 – Hey the diving helmet looks great. Although I really appreciate if you had done more detailing. And….

“My SB needs more boobs. And other sexy female parts.”

True! and nice bunch of bubble butts with wet skin please. Thank you.

P.S - #734 – Thanks for the full package! But more work needed here, im afraid. Keep em coming!

# 752 – Great! Orange Girl looking extremely hot. Seriously, good work. This proves when you put some effort you do get great results.

# 774 – Actually the small infractions here isn’t obvious as you think because you have done a good job. So don’t you worry. Better luck next time.

There you go mate. All in all, you’re showing great progress and much more patient while painting. I hope you’ll be making more quality updates frequently. Ill drop in to provide my opinion for sure.

[shiNIN]

It's a crappy day, with devastacio's post as the single good thing in it. This post is massively negative I imagine.

devastacio: Yay, you did it! You came and looked through my stuff and shared some of your thoughts about some :D Thanks :D
{You are a weird one, though. NOTHING about my gorgeous skulls, Geza and the two nicely done other? Don't you love skulls? Why? Skulls are awesome :D}
#657, Vermeer study. I dunno, it was 60-90 minutes, maybe? I remember it was very easy, therefore kinda quick. If the ref and my state are right, I'm not very slow :D
I stopped because that was the right time for it. I reached the peak, spending a few more hours wouldn't make a big difference.
Now, I don't even like to copy. The results may be good but I forget everything... I wonder if copying has much use... I hope some knowledge is buried in my memory and if I get active one day, they emerge... I dunno how these things work but I can't do much by myself :(
Hm... Do you really think I improved? I'm a bit lost at it because I just draw sometimes but rarely look back... And I feel I can't do anything by my own, I repeat myself... Maybe the fact I don't have instant clear ideas with knowing what strokes to do isn't a problem, I just need to be loose and painting without a fuss, it often works but it's still so strange I don't _know_ what to do (except some anatomical and other facts I quite aware of)... But when I have no ref and it's not even a human, I'm seriously lost. A scarf or even a ribbon is so difficult.
*sigh*
True! and nice bunch of bubble butts with wet skin please. Thank you.
I will think about it ;)

Some image to go with this post. I didn't really do anything today, beats me why, the weather is horrible though, I CAN'T function without natural light and it wasn't much of it in the last two days. I could stand the lack of direct sunshine for two days but it was massive clouds, almost darkness and rain :(
I should have done a master copy or something but my brain wasn't capable of this much thinking. It seems my brain works at its worst when it's about drawing, my memory is almost non existing is it's about anatomy stuff and pretty good when it's something else, some poem, for example.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/trad1024.jpg

Oh and I wrote "wip" next to this some months ago... So I try to finish it. Not today. Colors immensely confused me at this point, it's what I expected but I want to do it in colors.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/womanhead_again_wip.jpg

Tomorrow I will bring something nicer. Good night. Why am I sleepy this early... Dammit.

[Ramalooke]

If you fail to remember what you was studyin'. Try doing an applied study after you finish normal one. I guarantee that you will learn much more this way ;) Keep working.

[dracken]

shiNIN, I have the exact same feeling about drawing without a reference. If I try to do anything without a model it looks horrible (my stuff looks bad with reference too, but that's another story).

Forcing my memory to create anything decent is like hitting my head against a wall. A ribbon is hard you say, I say even a line without reference is hard. I have spent hours and hours drawing anatomy from images and this weekend for the first time in weeks I tried doing something without a model. It looked horrible. No matter how much time I spend on figures I simply don't seem to get it. The solution, according to everyone else, is do more studies, work more and put more effort into your drawing...but it's so damn hard when hours of work translate to almost no improvement.

I am constantly afraid that somehow I'm not getting it and every other artist can do this stuff, but I won't ever be able to do any imagination stuff, even simple cartoons.

It's a constant fear and the more I think about it the more depressed I get.

However, I know I want to be good at art. I want it more than I ever wanted anything in my life. I want to be able to create something that people will be moved by. I want to make something that I can be proud off and that's what's pushing me.

What's pushing you? You should find the motivation, the end goal and remember you're working towards it.

On a more technical note I think Ramalooke has the right idea and nowadays I try to draw a few figures for reference then do the same pose from memory. It sucks and it's hard as hell, but I feel like this is the only way to force your brain to remember stuff. We'll see if it pays off...

[shiNIN]

{too much blurb and maybe unclearness, I'm tired and I didn't get any sunshine for days so my energy level is low}

Ramalooke: I know that. But I can't do something just because I know I should. The best and worst advice would be I should just practice. I know but I usually can't, I write about it way too much already... I didn't give it up, it just never happened yet.

dracken: Figures are really hard... After many thousand of them, still being extremely crappy by myself (I mean, every second kid could do it better or something like this), I really got disappointed. Just like when I put more than 100 hours into arm anatomy study (I'm almost at the point where I studied arm anatomy more than for my all exams to get my diplom... and it's true if we doesn't count statistics) and I still dunno where the triceps origins... I simply forget, once, twice, multiple dozenth. I can learn a poem in no time and remember it for decades but data about muscles... nope. I probably need more logic behind it. But if there would be logic and I would know about it, I wouldn't even memorize such things... The important laws in maths were so easy, I never learned their proof, I just figured it out by myself if I had to... Math is so easy compared with drawing...
But I carried away again. Anyway, thanks for your post, it's a bit comforting to know others has their obstacles too even if I knew this very well.

Stupid weather again, rain all day, it's a bit too much of it already :(
I drew muscles but they are messy. Arms again. I like arm anatomy, it better starts to pay off now, I won't retreat till then :D I know, if I spend time with something for long (I mean, without long interruptions), I will get better at it.

Oh and some copywork. Oh I thought a single shiny gauntlet will be easy... It so totally isn't. Wip.
I don't know its environment but it had these colors on it, almost a rainbow, yay.
Not like I love rainbows but still. Colors looks good on a shiny gray metal thing.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/gauntlet_wip.jpg

I don't know but even copying feels good (and it's not just nice feelings, my state gets better, drawing is easier after it). I should combine refs though, my brain would work that way too.

[Jephyr X]

'Ello and thanks for stoppin' by my sb!

It's awesome to see your commitment here...all the life studies and portraits etc. To pick a random image out: Orange girl is lloking good...you nailed the expression on her face!

And I agree about the froggies/photo study...we always learn something eh!

That glove is lookin' really good too BTW.

Ciao fer now

:yayca:

[shiNIN]

Jephyr X: Thanks! Well I'm good at choosing yummy refs. They look good in the end unless they are too hard for me - and they keep me motivated ;)

Ramalooke is lifestreaming now and I had too much opinion and decided to do the same instead of criticizing a linework when I'm always has a different approach (just paint ~).
But it's late. So I stop for a while.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/rlgirl_wip.jpg

Oh, bad=not similar enough.

[dracken]

Damn, that gauntlet looks great. It reminds me of Dan's recent livestream metal study (http://www.livestream.com/danielsdangerroom/video?clipId=pla_f8476221-d516-45bf-906e-81d727042dd8&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb)

I would love to be able to paint so well...

Maybe now you should try to recreate that gauntlet out of memory, or use that metal knowledge to create an armor... you have the skill.. now you must somehow force your mind to use it in new situations.

[shiNIN]

dracken: Thanks but it's just a copy, indeed. I just played with it, my brain was even less active than usual. And I didn't even started to show its awesome metalness, I just put colors and shines on it. I couldn't do something by myself just because I draw this. I need to study it a lot. Don't envy me just like don't envy Xerox machines (I would be a very bad one but I have my bigger dreams at least).
But I admit it's kinda impressive :) That's why it made my mood so much better. And focusing on the brushwork, noticing lovely details in my reference... that's soothing too.
I have zillion other pics where this one came from, I'll play with them in the future.

I worked on the fingers... The differences aren't that apparent if one just look at the whole, maybe, so I put the previous version next to it.
OLD - NEW
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/gauntlet_wip.jpghttp://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/gauntlet_wip2.jpg
I'm not in my best form, it's so sloppy... So totally still a wip. Damn, I don't want to resize it and working on everything again... But maybe it would be useful...
My problem is that it's too small, when I put those lil round things on it (I don't know their name in English), I already saw pixels...
I worked on this about 4 hours this far.

Oh and I shaded my witch... Next step will be PS :D Colors :D Fun without any fuss and totally zero worrying about anything, I do what I can ~ Mmmmm... Today I was inactive again but the day isn't over yet!
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/witch.jpg

[Ramalooke]

Sweet studies ;) Give us moar! ;3

[Naidy]

Hey, mate. Studies look bloody brilliant as always, great that you are learning to paint what you see so well.

Know what, though? I baddly want to see you take what you learn from each study and try to use it in an imaginative peice. It's good to take what you've learnt form doing them and to manipulate and re-use information for your own, things sink in that way.

Other than that, your digitals are great. Keep up the good work as usual, mate. <3

[Lightship69]

I am inclined to agree with dracken the lighting and reflections you have in the gauntlet are pretty good my mate well done with that.

all the best to you and yours and keep posting.

[LtPlissken]

OH!
The GAuntlet!

The gaunTlet is just,

WOoooooH

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[Black Spot]

Now take those colours from the gauntlet (very nice btw) and put them on the face. Skin reflects colour as well.

[shiNIN]

Ramalooke: Thanks, you can count on it :D
Naidy: I know you are right but it's not so easy to bring myself on anything... But I'm positive I will be able to do it soon. I get less and less of a blocked zombie I was in the last years.
Lightship, Plissken: It isn't even ready but I like it too and I'm glad you like it too :D
Black Spot: It's an interesting idea... But I don't know how to do it... It's true skin have the colors of its enviroments but it's more subtle. Scarf or hair is okay but a far away thing doesn't really matter. Seriously, how should I do that? I'm playful enough these days, I'd love to try out things!

Hm... I update then. I have a bunch of stuff but nothing really good or long studies...

From my paper SB, horrible quality I know, there was little light. Some signs I studied anatomy. My arms get a bit less messy than before.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc200trad3.jpg
I bought a Sherlock Holmes dvd. It was very cheap. The film isn't so good but there are faces, I don't see this kind of detail in small downloaded Fringe episodes :D I drew one face till now. Not very good, resemblance and liveliness is bad.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/shhead1.jpg
Donkeys. Lazy, quick ones. I promised them in Spartan Camp not long ago... Donkeys are lovely.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc200donkeys.jpg
Cobblepot, favourite of Spartan Camp this week :D
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/cobblepot2.jpg

Too little patience but I feel much more lively and drew kinda lot. I start to see what I should do and I feel the strength (well mood, state, desire are better words) to do it.

Oh I do this quickie by myself. It's a small miracle in itself so I appreciate it. She was supposed to be more Plissken-type woman but that's so not my style, I failed at it. Whatever.
Don't worry, it will get better. I did the most important and way most tough step, I sketched it.

[Ramalooke]

Great update, love the penguin. Keep it up ;3

[devastacio]

Hey there,

#796 - What can i say. Epic!!! I <3 it!

If you're interested in painting more armor pieces take a look at this in-game screenshot. Its from Dragon Age II by Bioware. Take a look at the armor design of the character in focus. (Its called the Mantle of the Champion, if you need to search more pics)

Last post, 2nd piece: Good job with the head ref paint. It may be a quick one but you did it well.

[rumpenstiltzkin]

really nice stuff here! the deer painting from previous posts is beautiful! and that gauntlet looks badass as well!

[Aresa]

Love the commitment you have with your studies. They are coming along very nicely and I agree with everyone else. That gauntlet is freakin' awesome! :) I'm really liking the face studies you've painted. Very nice and smooth. Keep up the good work! I'll be back for more!

[shiNIN]

Thanks, everyone!

Ramalooke: Well he's a charmer :D Spartan Camp is into him this week (except Kellye who drew nothing but capybaras :D). Thanks :) His colors was hard but I accepted the challenge.

devastacio: I totally wish to study armors, both real historical ones and fantasy ones. It would be good to decide if something doesn't limit arm movements, I'm no good at that. Nice armor, thanks for sharing with me :D

rumpenstiltzkin: Thanks, yeah they turned out nice but the gauntlet isn't finished yet ;)

Aresa, my hero <3, I'm sooo honored to have you as my guest here, I'm even more motivated to do nicer stuff ;)

Let's see... I was lazy but Spartan Camps is crazy these days so I have some stuff I posted there and not here yet... And new stuff for both topics...

I tried to do some 10 seconds gesture sketches... :D It's not just I'm rusty at quick ones, I'm quite sure 10 seconds is too little for me now. I like to study the figure before sketching it, to decide what's important and what's going on to begin with. Besides, it's such a pity to draw a sexy female back with one stroke... And the muscular one or more extreme gestures is impossible in 10 seconds, for me at least. I'll go with 30 second next time ~ That will be plenty. Still, I don't really like posemaniacs.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc200_10secs.jpg
The girl Ramalooke drew, again, I won't work on it more. Resizing and switching to fixed opacity brushes only toward the ends, they were two big mistakes I did. The expression isn't easy either, that mouth is special.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/ramalookegirl2.jpg
Stuff from one of the books about portrait drawing I have.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc200trad4.jpg
I started this master study (Van Dyk: Portrait of Cornelis van der Geest) last night, just because I planned to do it for Spartan Camp and deadline was near. But I wasn't in the mood and it was so damn hard... Therefore, it stayed a wip.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/vandyk_geest_study_wip.jpg

Oh and another few minutes on my gal... A little more and I totally must realize I can't do more by myself. Then, I will use refs, I guess.
Oh and it would be useful to have some idea about what the hell her arms are doing...

[Kellye]

Looking nice ShiNIN!!! I am in lust over your gauntlet, you are doing such an epic job on those reflective surfaces. *heart* Keep it up, I will go back through your SB later to get a good gawk at everything. :D

(I had a cute apple too but I ate it.)

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/24/129166296294649267.jpg

[Ramalooke]

Well studies we do should be hard, cuz we are learning on our mistakes. Doing easy stuff is not the path to improvement. So I suggest you finish your van dyk study xd And yeah, it's a good update ;)

[poetry man]

I think your digital pieces are better and more refined than your traditional pieces. I see your studying precisely, trying to understand the form of things and the color values in them. That's good. Keep doing your thing.

[Satu]

Great updates! Love the gauntlet and the copplepot! Photostudy and master study looks good also. Keep it up! :)

[Caspia]

Wow, you've been busy. I love some of your photostudies. The Frogs especially. It's good to see lots of skull work, structure is always important. I know a load of people have already said it but that is a REALLY good gauntlet you've got there.

Keep going!

[shiNIN]

Kellye: I tried :D I love shiny things and that gauntlet photo was so tempting, it grabbed my attention for the whole time. It's not ready yet, though. Thanks for visiting :)

poetry_man: Thanks! You are right, I just do quick sketches traditionally, I feel more free digitally, despite that I can control my lines better when I use a pencil. I need to overpaint things quite a few times, I can't do that with pencil... Both media have their role in my life.

Satupeikko: Thanks!

Caspia: Yep, structure is important, it's good skulls are so interesting too, I need things I like to be able to study them carefully ;) Thanks ~

I skipped a few days again. I had a busy tiring day, then I needed another to rest, then dense fog came (it does very bad to me, I need more natural light), it cleared up but my mind still couldn't handle our new chainsaw it seems... A nasty encounter with a chainsaw can ruin your whole afternoon. I read and watched anime, a bloody one, no drawing again.
Oh my own lil cute phalanges, it's great to have them all. (I have a partially broken nail only but my self confidence got hurt.)

And it's so hard to draw again. I tried. 30 seconds sketches - no good. I can do something in 10-15 seconds but 30 seconds makes me want to draw a longer gesture drawing... It's okay, let's continue the Van Dyk master study, copying is always easy to do.
Well, not necessarily. It's a hard portrait to me. Interesting, I love that painting, that's why I chose it, but I'm struggling with it.
Stupid frills, I guess I should think and find out how they works, just copying them is way too boring and not useful either, of course.
Still, looking at the improvement feels good. Some resemblance appeared, yay.
(I messed up the mouth, it's a hard mouth by the way, I played with it a lot already :( )
Obviously still a wip. Brush problems (using pressure sensitive brushes too early, I switched to fixed opacity ones when I realized).
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/vandyk_geest_study_wip2.jpg

I planned to have a break from drawing humans and do enviros and finish my (totally human) wips but I don't know what I will do anymore.
Stupid, lazy days, I need to climb out of this comfy hole I dig, again.

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

That ruff around his neck is rather cool my mate, nice one. On eminor niggle is it looks like silk and they were a bit more lacey and stiff wern't they ?? I think.
Is there a ref for this guy he has kind of an interesting face.

all the best my matey

[devastacio]

Hey there,

Great ref drawing @ 807. I digged for the original ref in Ram's SB and i think you've done the expression well. The gal with the skull hmm bit creepy and i feel odd to see her with boobs! hope you finish her head soon.

The last painting, well its coming up great im hoping you finish it n post it soon mate. :)

[shiNIN]

Lightship: You are right but I had no patience for those frills, I needed strong will to do them as I did. I worked on them some more (a few mins) now though... They are kinda interesting.
I just grabbed the first big and not too bad looking photo of the painting this time:
Van Dyk: Portrait of Cornelis van der Geest (http://uploads3.wikipaintings.org/images/anthony-van-dyck/portrait-of-cornelis-van-der-geest.jpg)

devastacio: The expression is okayish but the soft lovelyness of the girl isn't quite there. I didn't do my best, though, such a ref doesn't make me work on a painting for hours. A masterwork or a pro photo is different ;)
Oh yeah, my gal. I should return to her very soon... I would be okay with her skull but it's not a pretty skull... :( But I prefer real gals being affectionate with skulls, not without a face ;)

I should stop being lazy... At least I drew a little today. Not much yet.
I worked a bit on my master study:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/vandyk_geest_study_wip3.jpg

I tried to do stuff for Spartan Camp, I spent a lot of time on them, an easy master study (portrait of course) would cost less than this lil bunch of figures... It's somewhat annoying but I should remember there are times when I do nothing, having problems with drawings means I practice at least.

[devastacio]

Hey there! again! :D

Well, since i may not get time to drop in as usual i better comment on this when i can. So basically you have refined the paint a bit more. Its shaping up well. I'd say keep pushing for more till you're absolutely satisfied with the look. Since now you're having lots of patience for adding details it'll be easy for you. Ill drop in later to see the updated version. :)

[shiNIN]

devastacio: Easy? If you mean I just sit down and keep focused, that's right. But it didn't feal easy to do...

I'm... tired.
About 90 minutes flied away, I start to feel it's some mindless copying (I notice things but I don't think too much, I compare and try to fix), it's tiring...
I changed positions and proportions, why I can't put things to the right place in the beginning I wonder...
The earlobe is too low but changing that frilly area.. *shudder*
I had no patience for the hair...

Maybe resemblance got better... I don't know anything anymore. But I definitely added details. And overpainted the eyes.
It is a hard portrait, I already said so.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/vandyk_geest_study_wip4.jpg

[untier]

This one is superb. Comparing with the ones in the initial stage of this thread, your progress is really a considerable leap! Cheer heartily.:D

[LtPlissken]

I do not know how you did it, but
you improved huge with this last guy painting.
I can feel and see the love in his eyes.

[Naidy]

The eyes are a bit uneven there, but jesus christ. The whole face is rendered beautifully. Ruffles too! Keep up the great work, mate. I don't care what you say, you're working hard and definitely getting better all the time.

[shiNIN]

Thanks everyone :D
Naidy: You mean the irises, right? Indeed... I'll fix them.

I'm still blocked (i.e. I can't sit down to practice even if I have nothing else to do at all. I don't know why) and I wanna give it up even less than ever :P Whatever. A lil stuff:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc201b.jpg

I like the transparent woman with skeleton that I used a reference for the left one and for all hands. It has a graceful figure... It was so hard to draw it. I keep drawing short torsos even if I draw a skeleton... I notice it early but still, it's so lame.

[shiNIN]

Not much. A few tentative minutes on the gal...
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Then I grabbed a reference and used it as is. My gal must be very inconsistent now. I still
don't know her arm position well enough... :bashful:
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I have this too:

[rem92]

Its been a while since i passed by... everything is looking great.. your colors stuff is looking better, and that portrait is coming along really well... KEEP IT UP

[LtPlissken]

That is a pretty decent value work on this last girl.
What I do not like about her is that she is too skinny.
Nice breasts, too skinny tho. Too thin legs. The head is too
big compared to the body. Oh and it is scary. The head scares me,
cause it is rather a males head than some girls. So the bottom
line is that you are better with painting bodies but you have
trouble with faces, so you should push the face painting more often.
Vary your pencil pressure on your pencil drawings and try to use 2B
and darker pencils, maybe try some mechanical ones also.
I was looking for some anatomy skull to buy in the last months but
I cannot find any in my country. Does they sell it in yours?
What is the price?

[Aragah]

cool stuff man, the colored portrait was kick ass

[Ramalooke]

yup, decent value work ;) did you painted that spoon allready? ;>

[Lav]

great studies, you seem to be improving a lot, great job :)

[shiNIN]

Thanks, everyone.
Plissken, it sound as if you don't know my sb, I'm way better with faces, it's true I mess them up if there's a body too. It must be 1. the resolution, I can't do nice tiny faces, only with pencil 2. If I draw a body, I focus on the body and the head is just there and I have no patience to work with it in the end.
What's wrong with skinny girls? I tend to draw slim ones and maybe the thigh should be thicker at one point (maybe not if she has a smallish pelvis, dunno) but that's all. Her head size seem totally okay to me.

Ram, it takes much more than a silly spoon to make me draw these days :( I don't even love shiny. Is it the end for me I wonder.

My usual block deepened. I know it's a problem I _try_ to draw, it causes nothing except I don't do anything else either. Maybe I shouldn't draw if I don't feel genuine desire to do so. I know I would if I start though... Oh my.

1364385
Messy but the last two took hours I guess. The first one was quicker. Something is wrong with me. Faces and skulls still interest me but drawing them is too confusing and difficult... I could use a higher temperature in the house too but our tile stove reached its limits. In winter my hands will freeze if I don't use an electric heater. I will :)

[Ramalooke]

I had your problem for a while when I did nothing but studies. When I tried to paint something from my head, all of this was shit. I produced three or four crappy sketches before I did something worth finishing. And still it's nothing that complicated, simple character portrait. Now I'm doing a daily speedpainting from my imagination to make sure it won't happen again. What I'm trying to say is that less you draw the worst it be. So take your pencil and doodle around. Good luck and cheer up ;)

[shockowaffel]

Nice sketches here man. When you doodle around, just dont abandon the rules of perspective and proportions, it happens easily.

[Vritra]

shiNIN, you have an absolutely fantastic sketchbook going on here. It was a real pleasure going through it.

I'm giving you 5 stars, not only for the hard work you've put in till now, but also because of the fine artist you are going to be soon if you keep working at this rate. Best of luck with your art, and keep updating.

[Cranberry]

Some nice progress you got going here!

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

I know how you feel with that I cant sit and do art at the moment, I had it a few weeks ago, It was down to family issues with me (old mum, becoming more broken and old sigh!!) I'm getting my focus back and am working again, mostly in flash at the moment though work (damn it!!).
But dont give up on me now my mate, I know I havnt posted in a whille but I will soon I promise, so dont make me shoot loomis in the face again! he cant take much more!

LOL see you soon around the forum.

[Aragah]

those ladies are sexy! the man need a little fix on his proportions tho.
keep on drawing!

[LtPlissken]

What is happening here?
You are starting to slack, just like me? That's ain't nice.
Looks like the laziness is infectious. You need to push the pace,
to come back with full force. Do not disappoint us, your fans
are always here to support you and we want some more nudity
right now.

[shiNIN]

Ramalooke: I know you're right... I need to do some colorful enviros. I actually draw figures by myself, it's a new development, it seemed I broke some paper thin walls and I feel I have some slight idea about human figure now :D I was extremely uncertain, I couldn't grasp it, even my copyworks were extremely slow and hard in the beginning.
Bad habits are hard to break, especially when I'm not enthusiastic but I try to do my best. I can't be like this forever.

shokowaffel: I try but it's not easy... I hope practice will help a lot, I catch my flaws too late.

Vritra: *after some silence with surprised big eyes* You are a delusional little one I guess... (I used to say this to people who tried to go out with me when I was oh so young. I wasn't a nice one.) I think nice things about my potential future as well but I know I need to change something vital because I'm improving very slowly and this much is a wonder considering how little I draw and that's half-assed as well. Aww, don't make me be self critical, I'm not in that mood today, I'm way too soft.
Thanks :D I dunno why but your post rubbed me in the right way. In the past, I had 4 stars, totally undeserved, I complained just a little and someone made it 3. But I didn't feel much better :P
I try not to disappoint you. And myself. The latter one is the harder nut, I could use some powerful hammer...

Cranberry: Thanks :)

Lightship: *sigh* I wish we both would be more active here on CA. I won't give up on you, I was patient with myself for years, I'm experienced in it :D I know the best that things aren't that easy to do.

Aragah: He's not good in general but I tried to memorized some muscles, maybe it was not all vain.

Plissken: Yeah, I totally don't do much. It's a pity, I totally feel I could do better now than before. Something is changing in me... My figures are getting better I think, but they are simple ones, I draw little and there's no light to shot my paper sb pages.

Some more or less half-assed stuff for Spartan Camp. Several human figures aren't refd and it's a totally different feeling even if the result is very simple.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc202.jpg
Maybe I will draw some zombies in the near future.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc203animals.jpg

[shiNIN]

Lieutenant Plissken wanted nudity and he was totally right.
It's a wip (I didn't messed up epically a small head!!! and it was quick too, the head, I mean):

[LtPlissken]

Naked female body forme
Thank you .
thank you!!!
Thank you!!!

1370667

Giwwe moar
Please give more.
Please.

[shiNIN]

Plissken: I spoil you but hey, you updated, you deserve it :D
Last time I did a Spartan Camp optional... I don't remember but it was long ago.
But now I'm good. Value figure study, somewhat rushed, I want to do zillion other things too:

[LtPlissken]

You are getting better and better!
But my hand is too tired now.

[Raphire]

Wow. Since the last time I dropped by your stuff has improved once more. Why aren't you going pro with this stuff?

Everything just has this sense of volume to them, a finished personal piece from you would be a spectacle to behold, I think.

[shiNIN]

Plissken: Come on, it was only a decent photo, nothing to be so excited about. It would be nice to draw much more suggestive girls too...

Raphire: Oh, thanks, I don't say my usual self critical junk text here now but I really haven't even started yet. I need to draw so much more and various things :(
I really feel the need to do something own, various forces are fighting in my mind nowadays.

I cut my right index finger (under the nail, to make things as bad as possible with a lil cut) :( No big deal but it hurts. I use it, like, for everything, including drawing, so it's a bit troublesome for me now.
The weather got better though.

I can't say if pelvises or hands are harder to me. These little sketches don't show the many hours I tried to understand this important part of human anatomy.
They are some mix between line drawings and value sketches, it just happened. I used references and added some randomicity in my part I guess. I'm kinda sleepy now. Oh that red line is something called ilio-whatever line I guess :) It's totally visible in x-rays.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/pelvis.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc203animals2.jpg

[LtPlissken]

Pure hotness!
You feeling for values are getting sharper
and sharper. Magnificently effective delivery.
Two more laps and you will be like Schumacher
after his first shoe session.
Never think down, you always think up.
Your six sense is now just like
a third hand on a
butterflies glance.

[rumpenstiltzkin]

lots of great stuff since last i was in here, and nice work on values and the pelvis studies.

[Aragah]

nice going dude. nudes look sexy, the animals are great too. your improving!

[shiNIN]

Thanks everyone ~

Plissken, I did fine reading your post till I reached the butterfly stuff but I guess it's one of the things one needn't to understand, just enjoy :D Thanks :)

Sunshine!!!!!!! Warmth! The world was much more beautiful today than in the last two weeks. It's too little to make me draw though. It's annoying because I totally see what I should do, it's just not happen.
A kinda failed portrait of Hale Berry (I know, resemblance isn't good enough, maybe best in the one before the last, despite the differences in proportions... those fabulous eyes are so hard to draw):
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/haleberryprogress-Copy.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/hale_notfinished.jpg

[Roope Maatta]

You have improved super amazingly since the start of this thread. Honestly it's brilliant. Keep up the great work :)

[Aragah]

what, awesome piece this last one, good values, proportions and placement

[shiNIN]

Wrulf: Thanks for the visit. Of course I did, it's been YEARS... But it's so little, I need to get serious and speed up my improvement. I'm quite sure I know much more than I show. Getting serious would make a huge difference very quickly. Pop in another time and you'll see, I hope ;)

Aragah: Thanks. But, but... the original is different :( I resized it to 200% (note for self: always, always draw in bigger size if it's a portrait :( ) and worked on it a lil bit more (I tried to apply color but it doesn't work for me, I need to start with color if I want a colored one). Damn, I don't understand this photo, I dislike brainless copying and I have problems with brush settings as almost always :(
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/hale6.jpg

More pelvises. I don't even say my opinion of my quality and quantity... But pelvises have a very complicated shape, it will take some time to learn it. I improved at it a lot, I can draw one by myself now, a simple one without proper values but still. These are referenced.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/pelvis2.jpg

I studied anatomy in the last few (foggy damn damn damn) days!!! I did but a few somewhat messy pencil sketches but I forgot to shot them, maybe tomorrow :) The weather forecast really, really says it WILL be sunshine and warmth. We'll see. We had a single sunny day in the last 2.5 weeks and NO RAIN (or snow) in the whole November. The whole year was quite dry. Stupid weather :(
But I wanted to talk about my studying :D Anatomy is wonderful, too bad it tires me horribly, I can't learn data, I need logic and while the human body is full with it, it's practical and things attach into logical places, it's too difficult to learn it all so I have problem with memorizing bones and muscles. But now I have some breakthrough it seems. I got more serious and put effort into it (not just looking at anatomy drawings and photos for hours). Now I need to practice like crazy :D
A while ago I had no confidence and desire to draw, I'm not like the enthusiastic beginners who bravely jump into any difficult scenes they totally can't draw, I need to understand what the hell am I doing. I was somewhat braver in my Tegaki E period (and in Ahhhs and Oooohs long ago, mmmm. I still miss that inactivated part of CA, it was fun) but it still was hard and my results were bad, of course. I simply couldn't be serious enough. I studied but my knowledge had too big holes (oh that zillion times when I forgot where the triceps inserts, for example... I kept forgetting, again and again and again. I didn't see its logic and was lazy to search for it, the logic, I mean, even the simplest stuff took forever :().
I stop now, but I'm enthusiastic and use this topic as my blog anyway.

I plan to do some cute anatomy studies, I realized skeletons must be damn cute, pretty and fun with some muscles on them :) Even if I never heard about quadratus lumborum or transversus abdominis until this very day. Anatomy is a formidable opponent I must say.

I'll bring some new stuff tomorrow ~

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

Came by for another look at the old SB and I honestly love that portrait/ face of the girl she almost looks like halle Berry, but I honestly couldnt tell you why it falls a bit short I'm not good enough as an artist and I also could be simply wrong! shes georgeous anyway good job my mate

all the best

[shiNIN]

{I'm sorry I didn't slept well so while being somewhat inspired, my English sucks. I just wished to express myself, it doesn't need to have any value as a piece of literature, though the two things are somewhat connected :( whatever.
I'm totally using this topic as my personal blog now.}


WHERE IS MY PROMISED SUNSHINE? WHERE?

These words kept clashing against the walls of Emily's mind. The smart 7 years old child felt frustrated like never before. She had a very fortunate personality and a happy family life, she - figuratively speaking - lived inside a magical sphere that protected her from most harm, it's true, but she does experienced things don't always go as they should. But this was different. It was a true shock. The stability, hope and happyness that enveloped her two weeks ago as strong as ever, started to crumble in the first few cold, foggy days. She knew it will stop one day and she can enjoy life running in the sunshine.
What continuous awful weather couldn't do, weather forecast could. It kept saying it will be a nice tomorrow, with sun and warmth and even rain. Emily knew the soil badly needed it, her parents always explained her important things in the way their beloved only daughter could understand. There was even a day as they promised. Emily thought it's over, it will be all okay from that day on. But the fog returned and it didn't look like it feel any desire to leave the area in the near future.
Weeks seemed so very long for Emily, especially these days. Along with the weather frozen in fog, it seemed this will be forever. Trapped. Evil spells. Hopelessness. Despair.

She kept looking into the disheartening outside world and was too lethargic even to cry.

Her parents observed her from behind. Her mother whispered into her husband's ears: "I don't think we should tell her there's no Santa. Not this year."
The man replied: "Well you should know. You are the child psychologist."

[Jamie Romoser]

wow a lot has improved since the last time I've seen your sketchbook
diggin all your studies and the notes your taking aswell
keep it up and keep drawing anything you think looks cool
till next time
-Jamie

[shiNIN]

"I'm so happy Santa has brought me a kitty!" - squeeked Emily in joy, hugging tighly the fluffy purring little animal.

The parents looked at each other and smiled. A merry fire was cracling in the fireplace and the stars were shining far far away "behind" the the thick fog.


{Dammit I dislike cheesy ends. My normal written stuff has death(s) in the end, my undead character kills his last emotions, burns down his own house or a village... Such things calms me when I'm unwell. But I'm well now. Not fit for writing. And while the cat could bite Emily, it would be hard to turn this into something dark and still keeping the weather/emotions whatnot. I'm not in mood for any thinking. I never think when I write stories, they develop by themselves.}

Lightship: Hi, it's always good to see you here ~
The new verison starts to resemble her in that photo... Whatever, I know very well I have problems with resemblance sometimes and I should work on my head drawing in general :)

OmertA: Thanks! I feel I can improve quicker in the near future, I'm pumped up, anatomy, beautiful human body in and out, I come and discover some of your secrets!

I promised some stuff. Careless, not-sufficient-light photography by me.
Part I, I put these into the Spartan Camp topic too but it's not up yet, Anthis must be busy again. I miss the usual liveliness there, it's not your old Spartan Camp, folks, it's a merry party of people who are refreshingly different :)
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204trad.jpg

[shiNIN]

You can have some idea what I did in the last days. I barely drew but I looked at anatomy pictures A LOT, and this time I felt I memorized them better than before.
Maybe because I was able to grab my pencil and draw. They don't cost much time but were helpful.
I couldn't study anatomy because I have to. I do because I enjoy it, anatomy is fascinating :D
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/201111trad.jpg

[Lav]

great studies :) Don't worry if you can't remember everything of the anatomy, the important thing is to understand how the volumes look like when you do figure drawings. But I agree, anatomy and just the way the human body works is so fascinating :)

[Ramalooke]

apply your studies! xD

[LtPlissken]

The best way to test myself, which part of anatomy knowledge
do I lack most, is to do imaginary drawings. For example, I get to
the pelvis area or to the neck area and I do not know how to draw
it, then I am sure that the next studies have to be neck or pelvis studies.
That is the way I roll. However, not to lie, sometimes, when I am not ambitious
enough, then I just open a page randomly from some anatomy book and try
start copying things. But, studies as studies are great, but as Ram said, you
have to use them finally in something personal. When I was doing the toilet
comic, I was drawing females sitting on toilet for a week before. I was
training in forth for that comic. So I had a goal.
You should also have a goal in forth maybe. Not saying that you do not
have, but try not just bouncing the ball in one place. Play something.
Trying to be wise here, and you are saying in your head; [what a f**k is
he talking about, when he has no idea about anything]. Hahaha
That Christmas story that you wrote is so nice. I like it really.
Got my heart warmed up a bit and I spilled a tear or two.
So, do not stop now.

[shiNIN]

Lav: I don't want memorize everything, just the important muscles and the bones, important tendons... For a long time, I even had problems with the most basic ones. It looked like I have NO memory at all and it's so painful, my memory was always quite good. If I found logic what I've learned... I almost unable to learn something that doesn't make sense to me.

Ramalooke: It's impossible for me now. I had a much longer reply in my head all day, it was quite troublesome but it's pointless to write down now. In short: I just started to do serious studies, I need to continue them, especially because they are fun and I'm unable to do much else anyway. I tried to draw a human (muscle study, profile view) and I ended up a pelvis and a femur. Bones are too interesting and how could I draw a figure without knowing how they look like? And I definitely don't know. It was the first time I focused on tibia and fabula but it was still half-assed. And my ribcages are horrible because drawing ribs are troublesome.
And so on but I have no imagination now either. And if I will be able to draw something by my own in the near future, it must be an enviro. No way I could do anything else, humans are very complicated and I want to know everything that's important.
Maybe it's no good if someone like me is serious :( it's easy being lost on details of bones :bashful: But it's fun.
I wrote already my biggest problem is I don't practice. That would solve all my big problems regarding drawing.
{EDIT:much, much later}
But if you don't mean an all serious complete full-fledged pic just some own sketch-and-some-more-playing, yep, I need to do that :) In the last days I was kinda content with drawing pelvises from _memory_ (in the lil time I actually drew something), not much time ago I was lazy for even copying anatomy stuff (copying isn't so much fun, after all but anatomy seemed so troublesomely hard anyway. my forever lazyness combined with my massive reluctant-to-move art block is a deadly combination for art :( ).
Aww, don't trigger so much thoughts and feelings in me, I will write them here :( Sorry.

Plissken: I would be glad to bounce the ball in one place. I usually don't even play with the ball just do nothing.

I could start to draw before it was night. It's a special day. But then comments get me out of this, sometimes it happens. I tried to draw a fun pic by myself but I abandoned it before the first stroke of my sketch. Typical. My ideas are either boring to me or too difficult for me. But it's okay now. I need to do studies, I did nothing or mindless studies till now, almost always. It's a step forward.

But it's not important for anyone but me. There are fights in me in order to start to learn to draw already. I'm hopeful this time.

Some of our medlars ripened. (I need to draw something to update and stop answering the comments in my head. Besides, it's pretty.)
The grayish parts are supposed to be dry, there are some moisture on it, it was shiny when I started but I was slow.
I can't focus now :( But colors are fun. The shadow was horrible, how am I supposed to draw something like that? I don't even understand it at all :(
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/medlar.jpg

[Naidy]

You're self critical as always, but you're still working and you're still progressing all the time. That's the bit that matters the most, really. As long as you keep working as you are you'll get the hang of things. I still get a surprise looking through your early pages and flicking back to the current ones. You've come a long way with your digitals. Keep up the good work, mate. Hope you start feeling good enough about your skill levels to start embarking on pictures for fun, and making ideas in your head come to life.
You're almost there, mate. Just keep at it. Pleasure looking through your stuff as always.

[rem92]

damn i love the animals from post 843, nice work dude

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

Dont get me wrong darlin! thats a damn fine image of old Halle berry! and heaps better than anything of mine I would just love to help you out with it as I know how critical you are of your work, you will hate this until its dead on. Sadly I cant help you with it, I've looked and looked but either I'm too tired or too stupid (or both).
Your'e right too once you get into it anatomy is weird but fascinating all the very best to you my mate.

[ezekrialase]

Good job keeping up your sketches, and don't worry you're progressing along fine. Soon you'll be able to get down all of the wonderful and complex images in your head down on paper in a way that satisfies you, and It'll be awesome.

[Roope Maatta]

I really like Ltplissken's suggestion for testing your knowledge about anatomy. It would keep from getting too contempt with drawing skills and it would show weak points in knowledge.

I like your little study of a rose bushes berry, hope that is what they are called. The values read correctly and it has a painterly feel to it. The grayish parts don't look dry.. Although they seem to give a feeling of depth. Keep working and no excuses >:3. you gotta just punch your laziness from here to Timbuktu. You're progressing so keep it up :D.

[Vertical]

Hi, thanks a lot for the comment!I feel ya on the losing your imagination thing, it's gotten to be hard to do anything but studies...know what might be a good solution? Your problem is whenever you draw you default to anatomy stuff right? so stop drawing anatomy for a while. Just draw what you like. Force the subject out of the part of your brain where the agents of study and realism have locked up pure nonsensical fun. You can draw figures if that's what you want but don't get preoccupied with what's right. Not everything you draw has to look good. I've been just drawing characters from clips video games I like and then drawing them from imagination for example.
Maybe this is kinda extreme, but I was guilty of thinking anatomy was going to mak e me a better artist for a long time...you need anatomy of course but not as much as you need the fundamentals and principles and stuff, and WAY not as much as you need to have fun

this is really wierd advice, huh? Well good luck, you're getting way better!

[shiNIN]

Replies next time, I'm very tired, it's evening and I didn't draw again just shot sb pages and put them together, so pathetic.
I have some wips (I have zillion wips already dammit) and a... well, imagination thingie, it's AWFUL, I so totally not followed my own rules I preach in Critique Center :D Well, I guess a "who cares" attitude isn't all bad in the very beginning... And she's wearing way too much clothes anyway. Santa clothes or not, how will I have an erotic series featuring our two bikes in girl form this way? :D Well, my bike isn't much of a woman, she's a playful lil girl with tiny boobs but it doesn't mean she can't be sexy in a cutesy way. I have, like, zillion ideas, I needn't even to think, just ride and ideas are coming.

It seems I can write. I reply then.
I wrote the one for Naidy back then when I've read her comment:
Thanks! It's good to read your words, I agree, I'm almost there, I did a little breakthrough and maybe it's a big one after all. I felt I don't understand my favourite subject, human body at all, I was blocked and I tried to squeeze stuff from myself but a hedonist doesn't work that way. But now it changed and I desire to draw everything but I can't do it at once :D I feel great :) And very, very unskilled. But it can't keep me having fun.

rem92: thanks :) I kinda "use" animals when I need something to done for Spartan Camp that I probably won't mess up too much... I love animals anyway :)

Lightship: Well if I just copy something, I expect it to be a good copy at least. But sometimes it just doesn't happen. I need much more practice. I seriously neglect heads lately, I need to stop doing that and get really serious. I always focused on heads, I can get leveled up soon if I put my mind on it!

ezekrialase: Thanks. I feel that time closer than ever. Even attempting drawing my ideas will be a huge step forward :)

Roope Maata: At the moment, I draw simple figures from memory, add muscles and whatnot. It's still just an anatomy study but not a copy. I can't focus on other stuff yet.
It's called medlar, according to my research. And it was dry and gray, well I did what I could and I'm happy with the result, especially considering my absent-mindedness that time.

Vertical: I just started to do anatomy sketches, I always was too lazy to start one and even if I did, it was a brainless copy. I love anatomy, I totally want to do moar :D But I do some extremely simple but a bit loose gestures lately so maybe I will be okay? But my figures are so much better if I keep in mind where the muscles are. It's fun too. I like to use my brain as well. It was ages ago I wrote a program but I still think as a programmer.
But I think I understand what you say. I got so much good advice here but applying them isn't so easy.
I know there are more basic stuff than anatomy. I do Spartan Camp since #53, after all. We are at #204. And I've just started to have some idea how to draw a figure... *sigh*. I always said I'm an antitalent. But I kept drawing, even if my attitude or methods were wrong.
Gesture. Flow. That strange thing that makes the simplest, no-anatomy stuff alive. I wish to learn how to get that. But anatomy, rules, facts seemed easier to someone like me who can't really be loose...
I drew characters but I usually failed at it "draw them from imagination" part. I know I should but...
Ouch, I don't want to focus on my totally lame lazy+blocked state of the past, I'm at the point where I can take out the blockedness, I alway will be lazy but it's okay, it even has its benefits, real motivation and having fun is stronger.

Pictures.
Nothing special.
I mostly slept and watched Doctor Who in the last days, sunshine arrived by the way, I need to take long walks to get my energy back.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204_trad.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204birds.jpg
There was a few days when I couldn't think about anything but bones...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/bones.jpg

[liquorbleu]

Hey!
I just want to say first of all. You're awesome. I love how much info you give for all the stuff you do.

Second, your progress looks amazing! You passion is really inspiring.

Hallie Berry looks awesome! The likeness isn't perfect but just keep doing those and the likeness will come!

Just wanted to say you've inspired me to try out some DSG :)

[Aragah]

work it man! nice birds

[LtPlissken]

I went emotional when i saw the sophisticated highly
powerful way that your part time cat is resting in your bed.
This kind of little things make my heart to feel like Jack
Palance felt on his grandmother's funeral.
Oh, that little sketch that you draw and said that it's
originated from me, is actually not my concept, I saw
it also somewhere between someones sketches, I do
not remember where. The little guy is becoming more
and more popular and he does not even realizes it.
Your anatomy is improving, and thinking about bones is
good, cause it makes your mind to evolve and makes your
spirit to be less crush-able.
Fancy looking birds, I guess that you could do illustration
for some book about birds and stuff. Very nice.
You made a great influence with this update, once again.
I was a bit worried cause you did not updated for a few days,
but now everything is great.

[Vertical]

I'm honored you think I'm worthy to study from!
But anatomy, rules, facts seemed easier to someone like me who can't really be loose...
Screw the rules you have imagination! lol. Well don't forget the rules of course, but just keep them in the back of your mind and focus on the life quality you're looking for. It's really hard to get, but I think getting a lively quality is one of the most important parts of figure drawing. Anyway, if you're looking for someone to study may I suggest this blog? (http://mattjonezanimation.blogspot.com/) i think it has the quality you're looking for in spades. It might help if you invented a narrative for your figures. Just make them doing something, give their pose a story. This will give you something to focus on other than anatomical details and get you to start thinking about how to apply the pose the model's making to what you want. The artsy poses I see a lot of the time on pixelovely and lovecastle would be just plain silly in real life!
Well good luck, keep learning and working hard!

[shiNIN]

Replies next time, I'm busy! It started with Little-Maiden who put a huuuuuuuuuge bunch of stuff into the Spartan Camp thread like nothing special happened. We there expressed our admiration, the sheer number was impressive and the quality wasn't bad either. (I know things like this are possible but I always had problems to do 50 gestures)
The he did it again. I promised the realization of my very old plan, 50 arm studies. And some mongooses and Korean gals, choosing the deadline as today.
I have so great ideas sometimes :(
Here's the mongooses :D
Too bad I need much time to get warmed-up then I get tired... :(
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/mongooses.jpg

[LtPlissken]

Ah, you portrayed the hatching and mating of these
little sweet creatures in a magnificent fashion. You
made me realize that nature is not our enemy. It is our savior.
Such a beautiful enclosed tendency you got toward these
lovely creatures, I can see it in your work. A fire has
started in my heart. The Cobra vs Mongoose is fantastic.
Reminds me on my days in the Sahara.
You are gorgeous with your new studies.

[shiNIN]

oh page 30.
I'm near braindead but I drew the 50 arms with just a lil bit cheat but I did kinda detailed ones too.
the Korean girls come tomorrow, I couldn't fit them, I feel guilty but not to the extent I would think of harakiri. The arms were the real stuff :D These:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204arms1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204arms2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204arms3.jpg
my thoughts about this whole thing and replies tomorrow.
I have no regrets :P

good night

[LtPlissken]

Cheers for the perseverance for drawing these
50 hands. You are amazing. But if you did not draw
Stallone's hand, than you did nothing. So I hope
that one of those hands are Sly referenced.

[shiNIN]

liquorbleu: Hi :) No, the potential future hardworking and still fun having childish version of mine, that's awesome, I need to get it out of this current self ;) But thanks ;) DSG... I will do them again one day, I actually did quick pencil sketches for the ice formation one.
I'm glad my massive amount of blurb has their audience. I don't want to write that much but I have to. Walls of text are just coming out. I have too many thoughts and comments about everything.

Aragah: thanks :)

Plissken: It's not a new development that I think about bones. And muscles, too. But the anatomy studying hours seems to get paid off. It's a silly feeling: you put 10 and 20 and 30 hours into it, you learn something but nothing epic happens and at some point something clicks. Or is it because my blockedness cleared up? Whatever. Main thing drawing is fun and desirable now, lazyness comes sometimes but it's not such a big deal as before.
Oh, Sly's arms weren't included but you are completely right. I'll draw his arms next time. It will be soon, I definitely need much more arm and hand studies.

Vertical: It's nice to have you here. You says totally wise things I actually know but seemingly forgot. Narrative is important indeed, making sense, livelyness, fun... Oh I remember my problem is with that. I usually have a complete little thing in my mind and I just can't draw it the way I want. I keep saying to myself I don't need a perfect body with full anatomy though :( Anatomy helps but requires a lot of time. My little gestures without anatomy are too lame, I'd love them to be expressive and flowy. Practice, practice.
Thanks for the link, I surely will find nice stuff there I can learn from (though, at the first sight it seems it's a bit less tidy than what I prefer, simplicity is never a problem).

I put stuff into the current Spartan Camp topic more often then here... But now I'm here again.
My sleeping pattern is messed up and I was sleepy in the past days and I even slept during the day (but not at night when I should have), my imagination produced nothing but a few comic ideas (I really need to draw them, it would be a good practice, they needn't to be tidy) but I'm not blocked like in the past now so I did some work done. I'm not pleased with most of them but I did something.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204gals.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204faces.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204trad2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204animals.jpg
Everyone and their dogs commented poor rushed heron or what was that bird so I drew it again. The background gave me some trouble but it wasn't my main focus so I gave up easily. But it does bother me, I'd like to know how to paint grass fields with spots of soil and leaves in a simple effective way.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/heron.jpg
Ink bottles. Drawing, sleep, drawing again. Glass is tricky as usual, I need some awesome state of mind to fight them and have som chance for success.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/bottles1211.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204runners.jpg

[LtPlissken]

Watch for your sleeping pattern, cause I had a neighbor,
she also was messing up her schedule and after she flipped
out and finished on the psychiatry. They held her for four weeks
there, did not let here to go to toilet or to drink any alcohol.
They tortured her with electric shocks and they dipped her into
a cauldron full of hot honey from time to time. After she got out
from the hospital, she went normal with the sleeping pattern, but
then last August, she messed it up again, and they took her away
once more. There is all over the newspaper about messed up sleeping
pattern victims now. I am just try to warn you, cause you mean so
much to me. You should get your sleeping pattern right immediately.
Immediately! Drink some warm milk with honey in it before bedtime,
and change your socks every evening. Please listen to me. You
are in big danger! It is nice how you did the female with the white
glowing part around her. She's got the aura and she shines in the dark.
You did a magical work on that stork in the wilderness. I like the look
in her eyes. On the ink bottles the reflection is not so realistic
but other than that you painted them very attractively.
Such a beautiful power you have in your hands.

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

whats this I hear you feeling poorly and tired? that wont do, not at all. maybe you have been working too hard and your brain needs to get something sorted out.
Stay away from your pencils and computer for a couple of days and do something physical, like clean your kitchen, dig over the garden, go for a hike in the mountains or something. You will soon get your self in order, the alternative is several gallons of grain alchohol and beer chasers, which has merrit too.

Hope you get sorted soon my mate, love and best wishes.

[shiNIN]

Lightship, Plissken:
Don't worry, I'm fine, it's just I was awake dead tired till 3am when I drew those arms... next day I was like a zombie, I didn't sleep enough either (my BF learned his stuff and woke me up just like I always wished. it's problematic is I go to bed late though). So I had a sleepy day, I slept during the day and went to bed late due more than one reasons. Next day it repeated... Circulus vitiosis, I know its meaning so well.
I like to go to bed very late. I dislike waking up both early and late. And I want to sleep less and live MORE. I will solve this one day I hope.
Lightship, I keep cleaning into a minimum but I definitely need some long walks. And sunshine. Those 3 cold foggy weeks didn't do good to me, it's one reason I'm not as fresh as can be. I planted some tulips and crocuses today, by the way :)

It always seems to me I barely draw and then I face zillion lil pencil sketches, why I put every lil crap together I wonder (nope, the worst one aren't here. I could prove I study ribcage and the muscles attached to it but it won't be nice to see my messy sketches done by a 2B unsharpened pencil).
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc204trad3.jpg

[ezekrialase]

keep on truckin' :)

[LtPlissken]

It is time for some new anatomy action!!!

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[Aragah]

yeah man! digging the studies!'its been a while since ive been here.

those animals look really good.

on you figures i would just watch porportions a little more

[dracken]

Hey, thanks for sopping by my SB once in a while. It's encouraging to know that someone is interested in what I do and it motivates me to do better work.

I'm also glad to see you're still pushing yourself and working hard.

I don't know if you listen/ watch the crimson daggers stream but recently Dan had a very interesting discussion on how to best practice and how to kick laziness in the but :)

Thought maybe it might help or at least you'll find it interesting Click here and skip to about 46 minutes in, the beginning is not that relevant... (http://www.livestream.com/danielsdangerroom/video?clipId=pla_a1c60f6d-14f5-458e-afa7-92afffd9afa9&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb)

Good luck :)

[Jephyr X]

Hi again,

It's been a few months since I looked in. It's fantastic to see all the portrait, anatomy/life drawing, animal studies, gestures etc.

I love when you polish it to completion like you did with the armor glove a few pages back or the Van Dyk master study. You show a great attention to detail in those pieces.

Anywho, keep it coming! :)

:yayca:

[micahchampion]

Fantastic study/reference material. I'll come by your sketchbook thread more often to help me out anatomy.

[Vritra]

Damn, whenever I see the way you practice, it gives me a kick in the nut. Your sketchbook is absolutely great, love the works all around. Love the dedication more. Keep drawing like this, and you'll definitely go places.

Best of luck, no crits from me this time.

[Izene]

Great studies! :D

[shiNIN]

You are all so cute to come here, I don't even understand why am I getting this many comments, I haven't even started yet, I don't draw own stuff or anything... But I'm getting very very close to it!

Today I drew A LOT. Figures, copied, loooosely copied and ownj remembering the awesome ones I copied. I totally use rumpelstiltzkin's (I can never get enough of this name, it's hard to remember but very very interesting) cool life drawings praised by everyone. I learn a lot through it, I'm quite sure my much anatomy studies and figure drawing experiences has something to do with it as well but it definitely helped to click something in my brain about figure drawing.
It's cool I'm not blocked anymore, it's not just some silly mood, it doesn't go away. Drawing is fun but it takes so much time just to make strokes with pencil in my sb. I didn't draw anything digitally until very late, those tiny tired time produced the following not very serious results:
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I did this... yesterday? Refd and kinda okay upper half (it wasn't quite human and I modified, that part isn't so good) and a messed up lower one? Something definitely is off with this but main thing I drew a skull. I shouldn't neglect skulls and heads.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/redskull.jpg

Replies if I left any strength in me before falling into bed. I'm tired, yay, I can break the curse and go to bed early this time. Too bad my verbose level go higher when I'm tired (I can't talk but I can write when I'm really tired).

ezekrialase: thanks, I don't think anything can stop me now that I start to understand and enjoy this whole thing :D

Plissken: Anatomy is tiring, next time. I think about anatomy every time I draw a figure and I drew quite a lot of them lately. But I will continue my anatomy studies, obviously.

Aragah: My main priority is flowyness, except when I draw my stiff zombies, props are easy to fix or measure, it's just I don't like measure all the time. But it would be really nice to either focus on the whole figure while drawing (I can't do that) or draw a stickman first (somehow it's not a good approach either and I can mess it up later anyway. whenever I put a lil circle as a head, I end up with the need to make it 3 times bigger in the end)... I hope time will solve this, I'm always annoyed when I notice after some work I messed up the whole thing. But I really, really don't worry about it now, I need to be loose and flowy and draw like crazy all day.

dracken: thanks for the link, I will check it out. But the best is against lazyness to have fun :D I'm getting better at it :D

Jephyr X: Thanks! Oh, those two. I need to finish them already. They are still wips :D The guy needs some better hair and the gauntlet has a pair :D And I doubt I can't find anything to polish even more ;)

micahchampion: Oh my. What a responsibility! I try to make my anatomy studies right and I'm one who totally wish to know where exactly those tricky muscles are. Sometimes I search for several hours to get my answers answered...

Vritra: Thanks :D Such comments always make me want to make this humble place as awesome as it was called. Or whatever, English is so hard in this late hour.

Izene: Thanks.

[rumpenstiltzkin]

ah wow so much going on in here, great arm studies! and the bird and portraits from post #875 looks really nice!
and thank you so much for the sweet comment in my SB! :heart:

[LtPlissken]

My grandfathers verbose level also went higher when he was sleepy,
and when he was drunk. But he got staked the last year, so he ain't
hassling us anymore. We live in a peaceful love full of world. What
are you doing now? I mean what are you doing when you are not drawing?
In your last post the helmet nude is a good idea and could be evolved.
The red skull is fantastic, and it could serve you as a new avatar, but you
should sharpen those edges on it a bit. Otherwise it is cute and original.
You could experiment with it and try the light source to put below in front
the face of the skull. Should create a good moody effect.
So I will not distract you now, cause you need to draw and paint more
and more and more and more....

[shiNIN]

rumpenstiltzkin (still a coooooooool name): Oh it's the least I can do, I feasted on your cool life drawing pics in the last few days and leveled up and got much more flowy and I don't fear of figures anymore, though they are still hard to me. I know I needed my own knowledge and experience too but still, I'm deeply thankful to met your stuff when I needed something like that.

Plissken: I mostly draw. When I'm not, I sleep or do things I need to do, eating, starting the fire, such stuff. Really not much else, these days. I try to surf the Net as little as possible, memecenter got me though. But it gives ideas. Childish ones that my inner child likes. I wonder if I will ever mature. Not like I care too much.

I used a figure somewhere in the left (http://attachments.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1341591&stc=1&d=1318448979) for some of my feminine creatures, from Vertical's SB. It was simply too much to me at last night to stay calm and collected. Something exploded inside and I couldn't fall asleep for long. I dunno if my lil drawings are too silly or not but I'm happy and fight against my strict inner critic with a WTFC attitude.

[LtPlissken]

The winged helmeted is surely a sexy creature and
can suck blood even through the mask.
Yes, you did overflow with the flow a bit on that
figure above, but that is the way you train line flow.
It's good that you finally got your blockage off and that you
went wild with the figure studies. Just a few more pencil
strokes and victory is ours. Maybe. Maybe try to pencil
render out a big full body figure now? Test your skills
and what you learnt.

[JailHouseRock2]

Ah so good! Those studies are going great, and your values in your digis are looking heaps better too!

Keep sharing!
Matt

[Satu]

Great amount of studies, I see someone's working really hard. :) No crits here this time, just keep on studying, you are doing great!

[Lightship69]

Hi darlin

Just glad you are ok. my mate.

Do you want to play again ? draw something weird or natural, choose something its your turn.

all the bets to you and your fabulous BF.

[shiNIN]

Plissken: Hm... So you know I have some chance now? I always do a quick black mess with pencil, I never could draw a longer one (except some detailed faces but they were tiny too). I'll try :) But now I focus on digitals, I love pencil so much but digital is colorful, fun and provide update material, it's important too.

JailHouseRock2: Really? Cool. I just paint and update and don't comtemplate too much about my improvement, maybe because I always see zillion flaws without looking. But both drawing and painting feels easier, my lines flowier, me more free... and it's just the beginning! :D

Satupeikko: Thanks! But I should work much much more! I don't even work "hard", I have much more fun than ever :D And I'm best when I'm having fun. So unfair, my willpower and stubbornness fueled heroic struggles gave nothing close to my current results though it's hard to say, I needed those times and efforts too.

Lightship: Of course I want to play and compete! Sometimes I remembered our one and only round and decided to draw a great and realistic old woman and tell you it's time for another lil competition... It's my choice, then...? I'll think about it, my imagination is zero at the moment, it feels bad, I was much better in the last two nights. I'll try to find something interesting but not too extreme.

The Duke guy (it was in a video "why I have a KTM Duke") from before. He has a less abnormal face now, he will evolve a lot in the future. It's fun, I don't really worry about anything, lines, colors, and definitely don't think about anatomy the slightest. This "careless" attitude usually gives decent results if there's a character I'm interested in.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/dukeguy1.jpg

It's nice to get warmed up till the evening and have doodles that show a lil more than zero imagination... Plus 2 refd figure:

[LtPlissken]

whohooo, I like how she got that Karate pose
with her wide hip. She can kick out a Hot-Dog
from the frozen zombies mouth. Creative indeed are you
tonight. More nude and more saggy breasts would
I prefer on my daily menü.

[shiNIN]

It's not my day it seems. But I did something even if I'm not pleased with it.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc205overweight.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc205faces.jpg

I actually didn't want to draw more curvy gals but Plissken hijacked me from drawing muscular guys (it wasn't that hard).
Here:
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I played a lil bit in late night in this not so suberb (and after some sunshine foggy, then rainy) day. I'm not good at own stuff by default so all I could do even being inspired is this (that's supposed to be wet clothes if it doesn't clear...):
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Deal with my not refd quality, it won't be so great but I really need to do own paintings and not just faces, I have some skills at drawing faces even if I neglect them nowadays.

Hey Lightship! I got an idea. If it doesn't float your boat, just tell me and I find some other. I don't know about you but I met quite a few people through Plissken and he's a phenomenon himself, my life wouldn't be the same without him, that's sure ;) We might draw/paint some christmas or whatever gift for him. This would be our next, open-ended theme. It may be serious or a joke and I know his taste is broad enough to provide enough freedom to us. Well I totally think about a certain type woman but it's my own fault :D How about it?
(I might do some stuff targeted to Plissken but my heavily refd stuff doesn't count this time, I wish to do a pretty much own painting, I will use references because I need them but it will be far from a copywork.)

I so totally need to finish some of my zillion wips. And I'm getting ideas all the time since my block is gone.

[LtPlissken]

I had a bad hangover this morning, but I have to say that you
have improved my mood drastically and made my day with your
post above. Big boooty legs and asses!!!!
Well, i think that you have a high opinion about me, but
the truth is I am just an ordinary low life and not a phenomenon.
But you made me happy and gave me a reason to paint today.
I have continued your painting, the happy girl, I so much like how
you did her. I just sharpened up some things on it. I was not liking
her too muscular body structure so I changed that a bit.
Thank you for doing all this, you mean so much to me.

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[shiNIN]

I admit I just jumped at it and do this and that for a few minutes, no ref, no thinking, I don't really have brushes to use on skin either (it's usually okay, I don't need to worry about skin texture for a few years I guess, I have way more basic problems).
Once I optimalized an assembly code with someone, we sent our code to each other and we always find new ways to reduce its size even if we were stuck with it last time. I always wished to draw with someone.

Sleepy day, I don't have anything else to show yet.

[Raphire]

You've been KILLING it the past week! Mad props for going at it with full force... But you've probably heard that enough from all of us here!

Ok I think you should give custom brushes a shot! I feel you're more than ready(oh yea definitely) to make them work to your advantage (unlike me, who always ends up making those custom brush stuff look very obviously custom brushy). You mentioned a problem with suggesting grass in the background of that heron and I'll say, use those brushes, they're a very important part of the medium-- to make up for the difficulty in getting dextrous strokes in digital. This I think will allow you to skyrocket to the next level.

[Lightship69]

Ha ha ha you guys just kill me!!

Love the updates and love you guys!!

[shiNIN]

Raphire: No. It would be so pathetic to use fancy brushes when I have no idea about lighting, for example, just to get worse results than without them (because my attention would be even more scattered among things, brushes always take very much time, even normal ones, I guess it's why I like pencils).
I do use brushes when I draw enviros or fur, I did that in the case of the heron's bg. I need to do enviros because I can focus on brushes and colors there. My patience and knowledge is limited, I can't bother with everything, it would be very disheartening. And I would be pretty content with good sketches without any fancy brushes :)

Lightship: I started some cheesy comment in your SB some time ago but deleted. Not because of the cheesyness but I couldn't explain myself using English well :( Drawing is wonderful and stuff but to me, having pals here means extremely lot. It gives depth to my little beginner art life or something :D I get more motivated this way. If I was alone in my room, I'd draw much less. Maybe it's wrong but I'm like this.

I probably shouldn't put every lil crap here but if I assembled it for Spartan Camp... They are still have more value than mindless copies...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc205tradcrap.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc205d.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc205muscular.jpg

I think I need to focus on others than figures, I plan to draw a lot of heads and enviros.
And I really, really, really should learn the very basics about lighting. I can't do anything without it.

[Black Spot]

4 pages to catch up since I was last here. Keep on with the fruit & veg. If you don't understand their shadows, you're not grasping form. The shadows come from the form and where the light is. Revisit them and look again.

[shiNIN]

Black Spot: I think I talked about the shadows below them.. I dunno. I need to draw more still lifes, that's a given! I know near to nothing about lighting and it's really problematic.

I made a new brush (my fancy ones tend to be too soft) and some quick... things with it. Scribble and what you see, this game. I easily see things, I should make it in a more elaborated way, these were extremely quick, I saw nice details though.
"why I see" it was supposed to be "what I saw", I was very tired and anyway, my absent-mindedness and bad English is not very limited.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206weird.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206weird2.jpg
After drawing a lot of gals using CA members's stuff lately, I drew a very simple contrapost one by myself. It was quick, lines for some reason, it was hard. I hope I understand figures a bit better than a few days before... Not like this one shows it.

[shiNIN]

I decided to show these too. I really worked on them, redrawing some of them several times.
maeharrington has a cool sb here in CA (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133397&page=1), packed with simply flowy sexyness. I love the pencil sketches and the tidy digital ones, often made with just a few strokes.

[shiNIN]

I was away today, just a few things.
Another scribble things, I tried out other brushes, didn't find a really good one but my imagination didn't complained, I'm more pleased with some this time :D I should draw the fiery dashing lion and the kissy mouthed fish properly. Maybe the sneaking monster too.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206weird3.jpg

I drew some figures just to experience (not for the first time in my life but it was long ago) how much JPEG hates bright red... Even a high quality jpeg became horrible. It was cute before it though :( (I mean the effect due to the colors, not my stuff, but I kinda liked them too. My strokes are better nowadays I think, not so stiff. It's more apparent to me who see all the fails, not just the better part I put here.)
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206gals2.jpg

I could stand it and I overpainted them (not with the brush I used last time, apparently :(). I lost some artistic mess but maybe these has some good points too. They are simpler and quicker. And I changed the gestures, I can't help it. Back then, in the school, when we was supposed to write our essays clean and nice, I was, well, messy, you know me :D I started write with no idea what the next word will be... Then I was ready and tried to copy my stuff, the words already were there, I just had to copy them. Oh, I changed the second sentence if not the first one, forgot the first paper and created another messy but pretty different text. That's why it's good for me repeating things, not just hammering it into my memory (is it such an expression? well I guess everyone understands *shrugs*). I change things. I play with them. Disassemble and assemble. Explore and try out things. Being a playful kid is a best I can do when I try to create some art. My inner self likes to play. Needs joy. Dislikes discipline and too many rules.

[shiNIN]

I'm low today, I tried to draw but I still feel I'm a huge antitalent. I wonder if I ever will start to do things right. I mean, the right steps, not the actual quality of my stuff.
Even enthusiastic fanartists without skills whatsoever took their steps and produce own stuff, I feel so inferior, I just can't start, I'm here, finally out of my years long block, boiling and still not walking.

I so wanna draw great figures, I don't mind simple things but I still don't know why and where and how. Torso is my enemy right know. Slippery like an eel... I wanna find its secret so badly though.

But I actually drew something so this "being low" is so much more higher than my usual blocked state in the past :)

Pictures.

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http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/tutdoggies.jpg

My English is probably bad today.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/pepper.jpg

Don't ask me. Oh and aside the horrible intended makeup, there's no proper balance and weight, well I'm bad with airheads to begin with (these big heads much be airheads, they couldn't walk with them if they had normal density). Silly stuff. {EDIT: I couldn't stand and changed it a bit but won't again. I actually wanted to draw this girl very differently... This is a weird day}
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Messy stuff, heavily reffed (most of the face is totally copied, with lighting and all), I add this and that in a clumsy and careless way, I don't really mind, I want to design Teresa again. I think I've found her hairdo, my BF helped in it, he saw a cute "young Teresa" pic. Our Teresa is somewhat based on claymore-Teresa but different, Claymore is an anime and manga with pretty much stylized faces that are more weird than normal anime/manga faces I think.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/teresa201112.jpg
I wanted to draw her as a simplified full figure carrying a rocket launcher... Whatever. I have no idea how her clothes and weapon look like yet anyway (aside that the latter is based on our Teresa's muffler. it looks like a vacuum cleaner though).
I wanna draw our girls already :( It would be so useful and so much fun.

[Lav]

Turn that frown upside down! I've been hearing from a lot of artists that it gets difficult before you start to get really good, so don't worry too much if you're having an off day, the important thing is to not give up.
I really like the studies you've been doing, just don't but highly saturated red against green/blue, it's hard for the eyes to focus.
So cheerio, keep up the good work and merry christmas :)

[Raphire]

Oh my some eloquent lines with the recent figure studies... my lines on tablet and paper never fail to look like cockroach legs. how do you get those neat curves? I tried putting a piece of paper over it but it was still picking up those little tremors in my hands

[LtPlissken]

You are updating every day, you are working, drawing
and painting everyday, that is just fantastic. Your focus
on figures got yourself to a new level, you just keep on
doing them. How's the spartan camp life?
Feet studies- you should do them, one of the trickiest
parts of the body, but definitely worth the time to learn,
cause the figures seem to look lame if you draw the legs wrong.
Same goes to the face. You can do an outstanding body and
anatomy, but if you mess up the face, then it goes to waste.
I am not sure about making new brushes, I think I never tried myself.
After all there are so many downloadable ones on the net, I never
seem to do my own version. I like how you implemented Arnold
inbetween your other studies. He is the gummy bear of Candicornia.
Figure studies in #906 are nice, however that green, pink color
combination is a bit killer to the eyes because of the contrast I think.
The last portrait is nice, except that her nose is a bit off and the mouth,
you should flip your canvas from time to time to see the mistakes.
It is still not too late to give her clothes and a rocket launcher.
The painting that you did on the previous page, the naked chick,
you shortened a bit her body. Remember the 8 head rule. Crotch area
is the center. We should work more on that painting.
My wall of text ends here for now.
I wish you a Marry Christmas and all the happiness in the world.

[shiNIN]

The totally bright reddish pink/greenish was so totally intentional :D

My keyboard is problematic at the moment (I have no batteries that work), I'm tired, I guess I can't reply to everyone today. Lav's post require the less amount of text.

Lav: I feel (chance of) leveling up is close but I waited so much already, I'm impatient :D

Plissken: I prefer my own brushes, I feel my paintings more my own that way. It's fun too.
I epically messed up our mutual girl indeed. Ahhh I must stop, I'll write later.

I was away then tired today, I will go to bed moderately early and fix my messed up biorhytm.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/gangstasanta.jpg
Simple but my own. My precious.

[LtPlissken]

Gang-sta San-ta!
We could make a song about this!
Siiiiiick!
haha
We will repaint that girl from the last page.
Not a promise just a 'todo' stuff that
I just wrote down in my schedule book.
Take care and sleep tight.
If you are going to sleep.

[Jephyr X]

haha Gangsta Santa! Get some rest!! And see ya soon!

:painting:

edit: Forgot to say I enjoyed yer updates above too! ^^^^^^^^^ Love the li'l girlie with the big head and tiny body! Ummm...she is over 18...right??!!


;)


:yayca:

[Macska]

Hello there! Nice things you have here. Lots of photo studies and anatomy learning. Lots of work, lots of improvement. I saw that sometimes your mood is not on the top, because of being dissatisfied of your work. You sometimes boring of "just copying". One thing I would advice if you don't mind. Do you have a paper sketchbook? A little one, which you can carry with yourself everywhere. If you have, use it. Anytime, anywhere if you have a little time for it. Go outside and draw. Do you travelling? Take a place in the bus, tram or metro and draw. I tell you why:
1. It's really funny, first time maybe frightening, but if you do more it's becoming very funny
2. You can learn a lot. Learning anatomy from books is necessary but the real learning is when you see a man in the tram and begin to draw it, you recognize what you learn from anatomy book, what is in your head, what else you should learn. In this way you get a deeper understand in anatomy.
3. You are forced to draw quick. People in their natural habitat is always moving. Sometimes you have only 30 seconds for a draw. Drawing quick means you are going to simplify your forms, this means you get the key for making lot from a little line.
4. Draw how they are moving, sitting, staring, sleeping. It's just so exciting! After a time you will feel how interesting all of them. Look them as if you were an alien, and you didn't saw a person before. When you draw from life you see that moment from your own point of view, filling with your own feelings, and you draw it with your own filters when a photo copy is something is that came from another people who has different filter.

And I could write more of this points, but I won't. Try it, and see it.

One more thing. Try to see this whole learning tour like a spiral. You learn from books if you're tired go out and draw from life to see what you learned and to get new impressions. If you are boring with it go, and draw something from your head. After that go again to anatomy if you are not satisfied, and you shouldn't. In this way you always improving and won't do always "just copying".

[shiNIN]

I still owe some reply from last time...
Raphire: I really don't know, I always was unpleased with my lines and don't think I can't mess up them epically but I got better. I experienced it depends on the brush too (horribly wavy lines always happened digitally), if the brush is okay, I just need to be quick and confident. I don't really think about it.

Plissken (the one before last post): I don't want to draw 8 heads tall girls and I usually take attetion to draw my boys shorter too. I want to draw mostly normal ones.
My Teresa design is wonky indeed, it's not that important there (I wanted to find a face and hairstyle for her) but it's disheartening I still do such silly mistakes in such a trivial thing (front viewed face).

Jephyr X: Thanks! Well she probably is. I don't know about the original character she's based on but it doesn't matter I think. Flat chest seemed funnier when using this meme but I'm definitely not into lolies.

Macska: Yay, another one from Hungary :D
I tried that already and failed epically. Before I could used to it, I lose all my motivation every time :( Maybe I will try again but I don't see people nowadays. But why don't I use myself or my boyfriend, I don't know... I totally should!
Studies are okay, I dislike just the type when I don't use my brain...
And I'm not bored with them, it's just hard to start to draw something :(
You're right with the spiral thing but I don't control what I do. I'm obsessed with human anatomy at the moment and it's really slow and complicated, but I barely can do anything else. I need to break this wall already.
Sorry for the blurb and thanks for your comment, unfortunately good advices aren't enough, I myself need to change.

I updated so long ago. It's hard. First, I fall asleep now and then during the day, I need some sunshine but at least a long walk. I hope there won't be any rain tomorrow.
Second... I dunno about others but in my case, anatomy studies cost extremely much time. If I spend a week on something, I don't really learn anything through it. Maybe now that I'm not quite blocked, it will be a bit easier but still very hard. I never could memorize simple data (memorization time: forever. or hours for a little bit but I'll forget it in one day) just stuff I've found logic in (memorization time: in an instant after I heared/looked at/read it). Anatomy has logic but it's too complicated.

Too much blurb, I'm very tired.

Somewhat refd. I have some idea about the muscles but I probably never will learn their exact place.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/leg_anat_study.jpg

I need to learn how to show form. Next time I'll use a real object in order to see its 3d form.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/xmasangel.jpg

I should draw some simple comic strips, I keep getting ideas and it would be a good practice, I need to get used to draw by myself. I don't know if I will be able to do anything about it.

[LtPlissken]

Wow Indeed!
1389732
This just shows how much you
have improved your understanding
of light, form and contrast in
a miniature version.
Way to go!

[Satu]

I feel the same way about studying anatomy. It is really hard and time consuming and it is really difficult to get the things you learn to stick into your head. I think you've actually done pretty much anatomy studies lately, or so it seems based on your updates. I've been doing everything and anything else but anatomy. Like photostudies, movie studies. etc. For me, starting is always the hardest. And finding the time to start studying. Well maybe it's not about time, I think I would have it if I just started doing but well.. And oh yes the lack of sun is just depressing! It's been so dark these past weeks that it just kind of sucks you energy. Gotta hope for brighter days to come soon!

Anyways I like your latest updates. And the gansta santa is coolnes, haha. Keep pushing the studies but remember not to do just studies but also things that you really love doing!

[shockowaffel]

Nice stuff and a really broad spectrum, too.
It's nice to see quite some jokes mixed in there. It makes learning more fun.
Keep it up.

[shiNIN]

Plissken: I'm surprised myself how well it went... :D It would be cool to do something by my own too... Lighting, form... I'm soooo bad at it. I see and enjoy and even kinda understand in photos and whatnot but to create it... that's something different.

Satupeikko: I haven't even shown my anatomy studies for a long time, they were way too messy. I do a lot of them but it wasn't enough this far. I love anatomy, I just start and I get hooked (and neglect everything else that would be fun and would give better results)... And I think I'm the type who simply need a solid anatomy knowledge in order to draw any decent figures...

shockowaffel: No, broad spectrum would include enviros and comic strips and watercolor! *sigh* But I don't always copy now, it's cool :D
My humor sense is quite developed and if I'm somewhat well, jokes are bound to happen ;)

I'm in a great mood today but I woke up late and was busy and anyway, I started slowww. Maybe I won't sleep tonight, I don't lack sleeping at all, in the contrary.
So nothing much yet... If you don't consider I'm awfully slow with figures...
I'm relaxed and carefree, it feels good. Flaws happen but I just draw ~
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206a.jpg

[warburton]

Hey, cool sketchbook man, your killing those studies like a boss ;D There really paying off, i can see improvements in your work.
I guess the two tips i could give, which have helped me recently are 1, to constantly apply your studies. You'll learn much more and faster that way, especially if you apply your studies from imagination straight after completing a study, and 2, is to always consider new ways of learning and thinking. For example, if learning figure don't just rely on Loomis, but try some Bridgman, Hogarth, Campman etc etc. This will open your mind to new ways to approach stuff and keep you on your toes.

Not the most helpful tips in the world, chances are you know these already, but keep up the great work regardless ;)

[Ramalooke]

No crits for you. Sorry I don't have anything wise to say ;<. But! I wish you eveything best in new year!

[shiNIN]

logistic puppet: yay, a new visitor (my subscribed sbs went just below 100, how others manage them I wonder, I almost always subscribe if I visit one, at least temporarily... glancing at yours, I will like that too :( oh my. but it's always a joy to have someone who has some skills in my sb)! I knew those tips of course. I think I do the second one, I love to grab any info I stumble upon and like :D My favs are Bridgman (even though I rarely do Bridgman studies. I should), Kevin Chen, Hampton, aww I neglected Vilpuu for long.. I have mixed feelings about Loomis but I can't deny his books has usefulness. Hogarth scared me away when I first met his stuff, maybe I could use it now? Campman is a new name... Plus I have some beloved books.
Applying what I've learned is tricky. I don't feel I learned much but I feel how much I'm lacking... I need to be more daring. I were here and probably failed, it's hard to say because I never do such things and it's a step forward in itself:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/weirdbear.jpg
I stopped quickly, it's a bad feeling not knowing what am I doing.

Tricky portrait...
The ref is low res and awesome, hardest combo. (He's Trym/Emperor, drummer btw.) I spent most time on the eyes and mouth.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/trym.jpg

Enviro wip. Refd.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/martian_enviro_wip.jpg

ENVIRO. You have no idea how long I planned to draw enviros. Humans always got the better of me ;)

[Lav]

Great energy and good studies! I never get around making environments myself, always seem to be drawn to humans as well :P
If you're going to draw something traditional in colour like that Santa, I'd suggest using a wider range of markers so you can add more value tho, but if you really want to study light and form i think digital, pencil and ink are the best tools to learn with (I have come across some people on CA who've been amazing with markers from the start tho, I don't understand them, I think they were born with a special gene in their bodies or I'm missing one because they're hard as hell when i try to use it :P)
Anyways, happy new year!

[shiNIN]

Lav: I think I already wrote why I think enviros are very important and useful for me. Less stress (I need a lot of anatomy knowledge for humans), I learn composition, I can focus on colors better, using fancy brushes, and I love natural enviros too (besides humanoids, mammals and shiny things).
I have no more markers at the moment (but I chose them well I think, these are important colors, the orange is so stupid though). And it got ugly because the color changes when I use more layers :(. Oh I saw awesome marker stuff on others's SB too :D Mine are childish but I have almost zero experience with it, I definitely will try it other times too.

Just a little outline-and-some-tentative-values troll :D They are somewhat similar to witches and I like to draw both bunch :D I really need to draw full body trolls... I try to push myself forward. I don't just copy anymore. But I still go very slowly.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/trollface.jpg

And I'm full with wips and ideas.

[shiNIN]

And while I wasn't looking, a new year started. And a new onion soup for my aching throat.
I don't know what to do with my anatomy studies!!!
I know my main problem is I start to draw late but anatomy keeps me from doing things too. I'm hooked. I do it and never enough, no matter how low my standards are.

WHY can't I memorize the muscles quicker?

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206tradfig.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206tradtrolls.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc206tradanat.jpg

[Raphire]

About anatomy: I wouldn't know for sure myself, but something occurred to me recently-- If you have difficulty remembering anatomy through repetition, maybe it'd be a good idea to remember their names.( a very boring approach) But I think when one approach doesn't work it's time to try another?

[warburton]

lol, i'm such a noob, ive been calling Michael Hampton 'martin campman' for ages :nohope: heres a pdf download if you havnt got his book already - http://www.mediafire.com/?m60x33tmhsorcf0

I'm studying alot of Hamptons anatomy at the mo and its really beginners friendly and got some great stuff in there.

I struggled with Loomis for ages and i know what you mean, his stuff can be prity tough to digest, but stick with it, especially the heads and hands book, thats awesome.

My advice with the anatomy (Hampton goes through all this thoroughly) is dont get too obsessed with all the groups and different muscles at the moment, especially if your struggling to remember them all but focus more on the bigger shapes and forms. Once you begin to understand the figure in this respect you'll probably find learning the muscles will come much faster, because you'll have a deeper understanding of why they are there and what they do.

Your doing great regardless , keep pushing dude and all the best for 2012!

[pixel cheetah]

Boldog Új Évet! Keep it up!

[bobmeatbag]

Nice stuff!

Not sure if this will help but when I do anatomy I keep the ref open and draw from it until I feel comfortable. Then I turn the ref down and draw from memory. Afterwards I check the ref and draw little notes pointing to my errors. I keep doing this until I feel I've got it down.

Than I start applying what I've memorized onto my lifedrawings in photoshop ( I do life drawings in photoshop cause I'm too poor for paper) I turn the opacity down on the drawing layer and make a new on top, were I apply the anatomy. I do this alot and it seems to work.

Also start braking down the muscles into shapes. That seems to make it easier for me.

Hope this helps!

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

Love your recent posts especially the little troll guy! he's excellent, dont ask me why because I couldnt tell you, but somehow he reminds me of the little shoemaker elf in the brothers grimm story. Could be some long supressed memory of a story book from when i was but a toddler or something but thats way! way! in the past, either way its good darlin!

happy new year to you and your darlin man!

[Pixelwalker]

Why we all come here?
Because YOU support us, and we are all here to support each other. So the result is that we support YOU too :)

I really like where you're heading.
Your studies are really paying off. I also liked the 50 arms one. Should do exactly this by myself too.

As a little suggestion: Don't get stuck into too many studies as I did.
It is really hard to break out of all these studies and get back to personal stuff again when you already did it for a loooong time.
So experiment and to personal pieces.
Try to draw and paint the things why you WANTED to become an artist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SstOrG19H9M
I hope you didn't saw that yet.

Greetings,
Silwynar :)

[Justyna]

I like your avatar :)

[liquorbleu]

ShiNIN-
Wanted to drop by and give you a big thanks for your comment on my sketchbook :)

Looks like you've been sick recently (onion soup?) too and encountering some doubts. I just want to say I'm right there with you - but hey let's both keep our chins up and keep on working, eh?

It's great to see you do enviros, I saw you mention that you are using some texture brushes for natural environments. I might have to try that soon - but I'm timid 'cause I've heard a lot of people to try and stick with the hard round for a long while when you're learning *shrug*

Anyway, happy new years keep it up!

[Magical-Shit]

nice improvement man! keep it up! :D

[Ramalooke]

God this chick wiht big eyes freaks me out. It's almost like a doll from one of tales from the cript stories ;o

[LtPlissken]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!
I hope you are doing well,
and that you are drawing and painting
almost every day.

[shiNIN]

Raphire:
I don't quite understand, of course I learn their names and it's quite interesting. But I won't know them if I just do that.
I can't do much about changing my approach either if it's anatomy :( I can't even use my most powerful move, doing-it-all-day-till-I-get-the-hang-of-it-and-beyond because I get tired quickly.
But after my post I've found some anatomy pics with a 3d feel (rendered 3d views can be so much better), I guess I lacked a dimension to know WHERE some muscles origin, it was rectus femoris this time btw. It's so logical; how could I memorize its place if I don't see where exactly it is?

logistic puppet: Thanks for the link, I had but a few pages. It was plenty, I have so much books I didn't read... :(
The Loomis head construction is what never helped in my case. If I don't put any effort into it, my results is always much better. And I'm still stuck with hands, well I keep trying.

pixel cheetah: Thanks! I will. It's tough but I won't stop :D

bobmeatbag: I follow most of your tips or at least try to. I usually lose interest to do something twice so I started to avoid looking at my reference when drawing. But drawing it multiple times is the best, sometimes I can do it nowadays.

Lightship: Thanks :) Your posts are always warm and encouraging, no matter what you say :D I guess it's your benevolence coming through ;)

Silwynar: But I even get new visitors... :D Yay.
You are right with personal stuff, it's so tough... I already wrote somewhere, I warm up slowly and I'm not very inspired when I'm not warmed up, winter isn't help either... But I draw a bit from myself nowadays. Even my studies aren't mere copies now. But anatomy attracts me more than ever :( It's hard to fight back.

Justyna: Thanks, yep, it was a successful drawing of a cool funny skull :D Sometimes I look at it and know I couldn't draw it again, especially not without a reference. I need to work on my skull drawing skills!

liquorbleu: Oh it's just some occassional sore throat, I don't consider it as a real sickness. Onion soup is delicious anyway, I love it, it has vinegar in it, after all. Mine has, at least.
Beginners, enviros and fancy brushes, I have some opinion on it. Normally, I prefer simple brushes (well, the round hard ones :)), especially for sketching. A beginner tend to overuse fancy brushes and dislike simple ones because they can't do epic things with it, far from it. I think that's the reason... But enviros are often wispy, bumpy, whatever and it's not always easy to draw using simple brushes. Experiments don't hurt.

Magical-Shit: {Oh this again} After years, of course. But thanks and I so totally will keep it up :D

Ramalooke: Oh... Wait till I draw big eyed kids or dolls with the intention of freaking out people :D I need to draw darker stuff anyway. My funloving part guides me into another direction but I like dark/creepy things more. Or things people thinks creepy, I say intetresting, nice atmosphere... Yesterday I wrote about real human skulls and the author of the article said they are creepy. Skulls! Why would be skulls creepy? He didn't even understand why would someone buy several ones. I'd LOVE to have a lot of real human skulls... Mmmm...

LtPlissken: Happy New Year ~ I had some inactive days but some anatomy studies always happen. I wish to draw much, much, much more and own things too of course.

Time management problems as always, I'll return the visit to everyone (well sometimes it isn't true for the old visitors, I don't always have something to do if someone updates their sb), sometimes it takes time :bashful:
Oh I have 3 stars again. Considering some people gave me totally undeserved 5s in the past, some people with a very different mindset wish to motivate me... Or dislike my messy pencil stuff :D
In my own opinion I have nothing to do with stars, I didn't really started yet.
Oh I had a crappy sunday... I guess I had some days with minimal drawings before, I'm always horrible at those times:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc207crappysunday.jpg

Lazy days, some half assed stuff and anatomy studies, my pencil stuff was prettier irl, whatever:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc208trad.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/env0106r.jpg

Frog shaped bin in Bled. Everything was orange in the light of the lamps...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/frogbin.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/knee_studies.jpg

[Izene]

Oooh~Great cloud study! :D looks pretty convincing to me :)

[qlotzan]

nice study i like the grey studies that you've done to your artworks

anatomy wow man that cool keep it up

qlotzan;)

[Lightship69]

Benevolence hell!!

I just love you guys! its the support! encouragement! and FUN! I have a blast in here with you guys

Even though most of you (and me ) are completely mental, slightly alchoholic, neurotic perfectionists who are never ever satisfied, and always slightly dissapointed because we could have and should have done better.

I think maybe thats it! thats why I like it in here! this forum is our own therapy session! where we can express ourselves and be ourselves.
Lets face it sometimes we are worrying to the family as they stare at us in shock and horror because we are trying to take pictures of ourselves as a troll, or a pixie queen or worse! a transexual ogre transvestite prostitute in an emotional crisis after being rejected by a centaur lover. (go on Plissken paint that!! ha ha ha)

Its mad here but I crave more and more each day, ha ha ha.

oh! by the way darlin I hope you had a brilliant new year and that this one is the best yet for you and your boy!

[LtPlissken]

Benevolence hell!!

I just love you guys! its the support! encouragement! and FUN! I have a blast in here with you guys

Even though most of you (and me ) are completely mental, slightly alchoholic, neurotic perfectionists who are never ever satisfied, and always slightly dissapointed because we could have and should have done better.

I think maybe thats it! thats why I like it in here! this forum is our own therapy session! where we can express ourselves and be ourselves.
Lets face it sometimes we are worrying to the family as they stare at us in shock and horror because we are trying to take pictures of ourselves as a troll, or a pixie queen or worse! a transexual ogre transvestite prostitute in an emotional crisis after being rejected by a centaur lover. (go on Plissken paint that!! ha ha ha)

Its mad here but I crave more and more each day, ha ha ha.




Amen to that.
Hahaha
You said this all very well, I will put this down
into my little diary.
About the challenge;
hahahaha, I do not know,
it's hard for me to imagine a
a transexual ogre transvestite prostitute in an
emotional crisis after being rejected by a centaur lover.
I think that we should try to suggest this for the next CHOW.
Let the children play with the idea.
Haha, you made my day.

[Magical-Shit]

sorry man for my not so original post hahaha but really dude you blew me away coz i've viewed your sketchbook from the first page til the end. wish i could improve so much. looking forward to your future drawings/paintings/studies. :)

[tronrobot]

Amazing improvement from the 1st few pages! its a real blast looking through your work.

[Jephyr X]

Heya...and Happy New Year!

So since i last looked in: I'm diggin the studies, like the color ones of the leg anatomy, and your pencils have a nice looseness to their forms. The little angel on the last page is nicely done...almost "3D" as said. Your enviros are really coming along...and I'm digging that skullabove.

All the best and keep 'em coming!

:yayca:

[Justyna]

haha, yeah, I would like to have couple of human skulls too, they are not easy to get though...

[shiNIN]

Izene: That lil rushed thing? I'm REALLY serious about clouds now (well, near future), they are AMAZING. I totally notice their beauty and I so want to get near to it one day. I rarely draw things that not follow strict rules, enviros are a must. With lots of great skies :D

qlotzan: Thanks! I'm so proud I didn't stop when my anatomy studies were very crappy things and I couldn't remember the muscles... It took long.

Lightship: I love you.
I rarely shot myself. Once when I did DSGs, I layed down before Alvaro with a camera (I wished for a dramatic angle) and ordered him to pose as an evil giant monster.
He's not perfectly sane himself (VERY far from it) so it went fine.

Plissken: I think it's not too tough except the transsexual part...

Magical-Shit: The whole SB? I'm honored! Why, you totally can improve much more just draw (and avoid some obvious traps like never leaving your comfort zone) ;)

tronrobot: Thanks! I already experienced it's a totally different view than what I normally see. I feel I barely draw or imoprove but it's not quite true. But my goals are far...

Jephyr X: I'm glad you like them :) Maybe one day I present something I'm really pleased with. It would be awesome :D

Justyna: Maybe I get a good replica one day. I even rarely SEE real ones, skull collections are so far away. Maybe I'll see mummies in Sicily this year.

Hmmm I did nothing much since last time but I was able to stop my anatomy studies :D I'm reading Jack Hamm's book, Drawing scenery again!
Some effortless doodling and side effect of reading the book etc.:
1396628
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/some_geza.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/jh.jpg http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/trees01.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/mycloudbrushes.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/facedoodles01.jpg

[qlotzan]

http://catalog.nucleusinc.com/imagescooked/4648W.jpg

http://academic.kellogg.edu/herbrandsonc/bio201_mckinley/f7-27at_fetal_skull_lat_c.jpg

http://www.boneclones.com/images/bc-256-lg.jpg

[thedestroyer]

Very cool anatomy studies, keep on moving!!!

[Aragah]

hey man, its been a while! hope you had a great holidays!
studies are looking good.
i wish to see more personal work tho :P

keep going! to infinity and beyond

[LtPlissken]

Yaey, your invincibility keeps growing.
On your value work no matter how strange it
will sound, but try to use more values.
And it is time for another update.
Something hot.

[bobmeatbag]

six words. Force dynamics Life drawing for animators. download it on google. It's amazing. Will really help bring more flow and energy to all your drawings! It sure did for me!

Hope this helps!

By the way nice studies!

[Ramalooke]

Try pushing something to the finish, apply your studies, do more work for imagination and use reference only for some parts. Those are my suggestions and yeah I know i said it once or twice xp

[Terjis]

Man you improved alot from Page 1! :D your determination is truly an inspiration :)

However, I'd like to see some more personal work too!
like Ramalooke said, try pushing some finished pieces. although doing studies is important, applying all you learn into a finished piece is just as important and will help you improve even faster! Try doing something you dont normally do, a different perspective or something like that, going outside your comfort zone pushes you forward!

Can't wait to see more from you! Thank you for sharing :)

[Terjis]

Man you improved alot since page 1! :D Inspiring to see your dedication!

I would love to see some finished works aswell, like Ramalooke said; you will improve even more by combining lifedrawing/studies with some imaginative work!

Can't wait to see more from you! :D Thank you for sharing!

[Black Spot]

You can do form when you want. Get a daylight bulb to negate that orange colour. And don't let LP drag you into the sewer. :)

[Magical-Shit]

haha yeah man! i'm trying to get my sketchbook here and update daily...but its not been approved...it's been three weeks does it take that long man?

[Roope Maatta]

This is sooooo late, but finally I put together something about my process in drawing hands. http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3352799&postcount=42

Basically i just draw loose, think of the gesture/action, represent it with a line or lines. Then i star to block in the forms with super simple geometry and finish with some fine-tuning and/or shading.

Great to see you posting your stuff. Keep up the hard work and go to the top >:3.

[Jephyr X]

Jephyr X: I'm glad you like them :) Maybe one day I present something I'm really pleased with. It would be awesome :D

Ahhh yes...I know that tchune! Just keep werking at it...that WILL come as you do!!

So on that note: More please!! :)




:yayca:

[LtPlissken]

Where are you my dear?
I am a bit worried.

[in2eternity]

It's always nice to visit your SB and see improvement every time! This is so inspiring )

[shiNIN]

So many comments again... I'm so unable to reply in a short way :( Especially that I'm pretty well now and drew a bit and have so many new thoughts and I evidently scatter some of them among replies.
In very very short {later: nevermind... it will never work): I rested, barely touched my own computer, slept too much, joined the local choir, bought some cheap plasticine, 10 colors, I did snail and basic forms from them, yay... Art wise... Well it started on Sunday when I was unable to draw anything, totally not the mood for anything. I got comments about doing something own already and I know but it's not so easy, I even tried and failed. So I stopped drawing, naturally. Take away my studies and I won't draw. I needed some time without drawing, I was way too obsessed with it and it does very bad to other things and even my art life suffers if I just try to draw and do not much else.
It's too late, my verbose level is extra high. I need to be careful.
A few days passed and I drew with pencil or a thin marker. Mostly heads. Damn slowly. My plasticine objects get a little limelight too and I grabbed my perspective book again.
My tilted heads got a little better after some practice and my rustiness at head drawing is gone now I guess.
I'm quite aware it has nothing to do with my extremely low skills at form/lighting but it's some start.
I should never neglect heads again. I may be bad at it but it's still my only strong point :(
I want to draw enviros as well. I make cloud photos passionately and Lightroom helps to make the result kinda nice, the jpegs usually are nothing like the real thing. Clouds often are subtle things and a camera is so different from our eyes.

I'm very well and hopeful right now :) I notice good changes and I had so dark times I appreciate them even if I wish for zillion time more :D

qlotzan: Thanks, it's always good to have even more pics about skulls though I don't understand why you put these here. I have zillion more beloved subjects than child or embryo skulls, I don't know why. I do draw kids sometimes so I should be aware what's underneath at bone level, maybe (I never use my head muscle knowledge when I draw heads I think, I never felt it would help, no matter what others and logic say).

thedestroyer: Thanks!

Aragah: My holidays were pretty nonexistent, oh I should already do something about it. Some festive hedonistic days would be nice now and then, without all the fuss and cleaning, of course, that would ruin the hedonistic part. But I live my little peaceful life here, even had snow this week :D The cat was surprised. He's very young, never saw such a thing.

Plissken: It's painful to disappoint you but I definitely fail at bringing something hot this time. And I knew you will pop in again and complain about the lack of update. Thanks. I guess that's why I came back soon, even before I did, like, anything. Sigh. :(

bobmeatbag: Thanks, I will check it out :D Sometimes I have some flow but more needed and dynamism was always my very weak point. Even if I used reference, I was damn good at remove ALL dynamism from the figures.
I'm full with books to read :(

Ramalooke: I think that's why I tried to go on a hiatus ;) I can reply the same, I can't do it. I tried to work on my "Teresa holding her rocket launcher pic" by the way (well I had a few mins chibi sketch before), after a few hours I still stuck (I redrew it several times, just lines) and need some more months or years studying anatomy and other stuff. Or just stop everything but I can't do it, damn it. I should make games, that's so infinitely more easy and quick and I can get money through it, hopefully, at least I can try.

Terjis: Dedication? Yeah I guess I have some... It doesn't mean I'm able to draw actually practice, just some studies or scribbles here and there... I need a lil more push but I'm working on it :)

Black Spot: But color doesn't even important if I wish to practice form and lighting... I slowly start to develop habits but I bought some plasticine for kids, 10 colors :D It was cheap and I'm quite happy with it. I made some wobbly stuff with it, not-quite-cube (I tried though), sphere, cone, whatever. I soo will study form. And light and my favourite, radiosity... Reflected light is an awesome thing.

Magical-Shit: I don't quite understand what you mean, not like I remember what happened in the ancient times when I joined but I guess I just did this topic and used it since then...

Roope Maatta: Thanks! (You makes me blush :D I know what a topic with goodies is... Nothing like this one. But I so not give up.)
I did some vague attempt at hands again, I tried to keep in mind how you do it, it seems a much better approach than mine, if I have any, hands usually confuse me. It took quite much time to draw a simple one but if fingers starts overlapping and bending, I'm lost. But I feel it's another step closer to figure out how hand drawing works.

Jephyr X: Really thanks. I dunno why people say such nice things to me, I can't(?) even
draw/paint stuff I actually totally capable of... It's crazy.

in2eternity: Thanks!

Just some pencil stuff.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc210trad.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc210trad2.jpg
I barely touched Photoshop, I have just some boring sketches:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/facetypes.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/skull0120.jpg

I try to bring something nicer next time...
I need to visit sketchbooks too...

[LtPlissken]

I was so scared that you went on a trip to India
and a quicksand eat you up. Because quicksand
has got no sense of humor. I was trembling and
shaking last night because of these thoughts.
You have lifted a great weight off my shoulder
today. Everytime you draw an anatomy study
or a face, or a sceletor head, another star shines
on the sky. You are one of a kind.

[littlebones]

Whoah, man... I was looking at the last few pages of your sketchbook, thinking, "Hey, good stuff here!" Then I went to the first page.

Have you done that lately? Because the improvement is insane. You're doing so much better. Imagine what you'll be making when you get to 100 pages (because you will, right?) :)

[AdrianNagorski]

Some very good tips man, thank you for the constant support.

[Lightship69]

Hi matey

Just swung by to see what you have been up to, I liked the pencil studies, there were some very interesting ones in there that could be worth chasing up a little to see where they go.

Have you thought up a challenge for us yet or are you still far too busy??

all the best my mate.

[Aragah]

keep pushing those faces man! theyre looking good

[shiNIN]

Plissken: Yep, I was worried you would be worried, even though you should know already I never get lost :D I'll be always here just like you. I can't even imagine this site (or sb) without you anymore. Don't even think about such unrealistic and highly said things.

littlebones: No, I'm not a sadist, I have too vivid memories of my first page anyway and I selected my best stuff that time to put there :D Of course I'm better now, quite a few years have passed. If I would be on the same level than just one year ago, I would be quite upset. I hope my 100th page will be decent but I need to start to work seriously already. I'm very, very bad, it's not a big problem but I barely even draw and I need to jump around totally outside of my comfort zone (and inside too, there's nothing I can draw well).

AdrianNagorski: You are welcome, your SB attracts me because you do the best thing, practice a lot, different things, it always reminds me I should do the same, just sit down and draw... Your attititude surely will lead you to success just don't stop :D

Lightship69: I need to work on some of my better pencil stuff digitally, I know that *sigh*. I very rarely like them enough for that though. I have my witch wip somewhere from some time ago...
Oh yeah, I thought about it. I'm not busy but stuck again, I had very lazy times, sometimes you seemed busy... Well I'd like us to draw... "Used car salesman smile"! He needn't to be actually a used car salesman, it's just the kind of the smile. One that is intented to be ingratiating but it's kinda suspicious. The guy face may be part of it too but the smile is highly important, everyone who is a good judge of people/situation can tell something is fishy.
...is it clear enough? Is it too difficult? :( I can't help I have such ideas. But I find it interesting.
Oh and I didn't give up about drawing a realistic surprised old lady. I have much older plans I still haven't forgotten...

Aragah: I decided not to neglect faces anymore :)

Hmmm... I had lazy days. And pencildrawing days (+marker, sometimes, I can't find my watercolor paints), another traditional bunch will arrive soon.
But I always have some kind of stuff to put here and I miss to see an update from myself :D
Fail:
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Misc stuff, mostly refd:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/miscdigital.jpg
When I have natural light on my desk, I barely see what I'm drawing in photoshop... Maybe I should work on it at night, from memory.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/onion0125.jpg

Coldness will come (house without insulation, a way too tiny tile stove and air from Siberia, that will be interesting. The spot where I'm sitting is cold enough right now...), well I always had more serious problems so I don't think it matters.

[shiNIN]

Some traditional stuff. I filled a sketchbook again.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/things-1.jpg
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http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc211trad2.jpg

[Rain Walker]

dude .. is there like a fountine of willpower u drank from ?! i loveeeeee how much ur work and sketch .... with this much work .. u gona ROCK the art world in a year or so... this is amazing... great job.. ^_^

[shiNIN]

Rain Walker: Hell no. I barely draw! And that's just some studies and half assed lil things in my comfort zone. I should be so much better, I have plenty of free time, I can see flaws, I'm damn stubborn and I already have some tiny skills so if I look at some sketches of mine, I don't feel sick :D I really should do more. (And it seems always more and better from the outside I guess. You see my lest horrible results, I see everything, especially the times I don't draw, I feel I'm blocking me, I have some vague idea I could be much better if I could do my best)

I'm at home all alone for a few days. Even if I step outside, there's not a soul... Just a few sheep running in the garden. They visit me every day, my fav is the lamb with its tubifex tail (when sucking, it's moving in a very funny way)...
I wish for a room where I can draw sunlit still lifes while seeing my monitor well... If my plans will go smooth, I will have a kinda perfect small room, with sunsets, amazing clouds and colors!

It's a slow day. I tried to paint the usual onion. Maybe it would be useful to do this every day. Next time I wish to paint it longer and I want folds on the cloth and maybe some shiny metal object too.
But I have wonderful lemons as well, they are light orange colored and smells like tangerine, the wonderful harder, bigger, nicer kind.
I disliked to see and show my "fails" in the past but now I like to see they are improving as well. My average fails looks much better than 1-2 years ago :D
I need to experiment, don't feel stress when I start to paint something... So I will paint some still life whenever I wish to do it. Even when not in the mood for it, lack patience, the sun will go away from that spot or anything, I don't want excuses anymore.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/onion0130.jpg

[Lightship69]

Ok my mate

Used car salesman it is! and a reasonably dodgey suspicious dude at that..... going to have to research this a little.

all the best to you and your lovely chappie.

[swallowed fireworks]

I've been browsing through your entire sketchbook since about 8pm...it's now twenty after 1 am. I can not express to you how amazed I am how far you've come and I hope I can progress as well. >< You are amazing.

[Macska]

I know what you feel when you say "I need to experiment, don't feel stress when I start to paint something." In the first semester in my school I felt the same when I started even drawing. I wanted to do perfect so spasmodically that I was unable to do even a middle quality image. I was unable to draw precisely, nor am I. :) After this period my teachers helped me a lot. I would like to help you too if I can. Altough they reached this within the school works, maybe it can help if i tell you how I experienced this. The key is self-confidence. You need build up this thing on your own. It's not enough if we tell you in this forum that you are improving if you do not really feel the same and do not really believe in it.
If you want too much improvement at a time you won't reach, just a little. At least you will feel this.
Do not afraid of failing. But don not forget to learn from the failures.
Do you remember the mood when you draw in your childhood? Bring that mood back and work with this mood.
Draw sometimes just for your fun, for example you liked my linethings you know vonalmacska. They were made for my fun. When I made them I did it just to feel how the lines curving. Make simple but nice things from what you feel better yourself.
After you are begin to enjoy drawing again - really enjoy - you can accept challenges again. But never forget to be patient with yourself and love your drawings.


I like the onion but maybe try to work with adjusted lights, because they're not moving :)

If something is not understandable, I can tell you in hungarian in pm, it's easier.

[rumpenstiltzkin]

yo, long time no see! your studies is definetly improving, so much stuff since i visited last time! really dig your muscle studies alot!
keep them coming, and dont forget to have fun when drawing too! take a break from studies sometimes and draw something just for you! :)

[LtPlissken]

I dig your flesh and bones as you managed to feast on skin
and blood. The onion is straight out of hell, one of a kind, never saw a
sunlight at midnight. Horny chainsaw bust the deathclaw as you
created your head draw. James Belushi wasted some back hair
in his bathtub as he shaved his sweaty chin hole. Without warning
you are here, bringing some excessive fear, shivering is what I do
when the sun goes down. No hope, no desire, you put me into trance,
and I will never have a chance. Your pencil wielding magic hands
put us all into
a strange stance,
hovering through your sea of creations makes us to
have our soul and bodies on fire.
You are like an angel of sin.

[Ramalooke]

I'm visiting your sketchbook everytime I'm on CA (yeah I know it's not to often lately). I don't want to repeat myself so I won't give you any crits xd. If you dig my previous post you will find everything I want to say. Keep working. I love your color works. I wish to see more this kind of stuff. Be bold, get gold! Cheers.

[Jephyr X]

Congrats on filling another sketchbook! I'm on the last few pages of one myself.

Also good ta see all the studies since my last visit. I like the hatching in this group (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1411086&d=1327875012).

That last onion is looking good too.

Keep up the good work! :)

[shiNIN]

Thanks everyone, I will reply next time, I will go and seek a warmer place in the house (11C/52F here, or a bit more if I use an electric heater. Undersized tile stove, no insulation aaaaaaaaaaaaand a damn cold weather in Hungary, combined). I'm okay in general but my hands get stiff.

Some pencil stuff and gals from gracefulnudes.com in digital.
I had to use the attachment manager more than usual... Above average boob content, I'm glad :)
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http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc212trad2.jpg
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I try to get off from the weather forecast sites and don't worry about the water pipes in the lil water building either, they are in danger, I need to be vigilant. I'll become a cat and I'll take short naps between water tank refills!

Don't expect any imagination from me in the near future. I was thinking about starting some comic about two raw vegan sisters though. I NEED to do some comic life sillyness, it would help me a lot but it's near to impossible to start one. Raw veganism is something I have some attachment at least, they help. I love criticize too and the older sister is a raw vegan nazi :D They are really something.

[LtPlissken]

Your force has been manifested in the mid winter deep snow,
more harder than a falcon hit the boat. Michael Jackson is
crouching silently in the rosebush, with an envious grimace
on his beautiful plastic face. You are a cherry pie making
the spinning world to cry. Beauty and sorrow all comes down,
a combined Indian harvester could never convert me to a clown.
Taking me all this time, to find what I need, you found the
steam for the greed. Your stiffened up hands would gladly
discombobulate a senseless frozen up fence.
A virtue beauty and bright desire
in your endless dancing black fire.

[Wassim]

hi man , you're doing great with your studies , i like the apple painting , you must do alot like those stuff i mean finished digital paintings , however , i like pencil sketches too , you're doing good with the figure just keep practising , and we're wainting for the comic stuff

keep working hard

wassim

[in2eternity]

I like your update #967 , you've done really good there))) Keep your nice practices!!

[bobmeatbag]

Hey thanks for stopping by and criting my work! I really appreciate your honest opinion! Really digging your hard work and studies!

[AdrianNagorski]

Thanks again for visiting my page, nah i just felt like drawing a portrait, it sounded to me like
you know when your at the gym and you have a personal trainer telling you to push , for just one more push up, thats how i took your comment when you said more faces.

you do a lot of great studies, and i know you love art, it seems like you do way too few imaginative works implementing your studies knowledge, just go wild man!

im mostly never verbal on this forum coz when i first started/joined i notice like the utter lack of respect or consideration for myself maybe im being a princess but it just seemed like nobody really cares, and every one is stuck on orgasm mode, only talking to you if your like painting like Mandryk or something, any ways little rant, lol im mostly ignored.

keep at it man! dont be like me and fall in the lazy trap, i lose way too many hours a day/days off, relaxing instead of pushing towards a dream job LOL. . . . .

[Aragah]

sexy studies man!
but wheres the imagination stuffff?!??!?!?!

[Lightship69]

Hi matey
Agreed with folks above there are some very sexy studies up there dear, but I have a question, "which one is you ?"

ha ha ha ha ha now youre in a spot arnt you, do you tempt us all with the truth or ....... show us some more dreams. I dont care really I'm just teasing, and I dont care about your lazy times either just as long as you post all is well in my world.

stay well and keep posting stuff my mate, all the best.

[shiNIN]

Spartan Camp deadline so my usual dump, I'm very tired, replies will come later again.
I don't know when I will do something digital, my room is very very very cold (sometimes 10 Celsius/50 Fahrenheit and never much more) and I can't take long walks because it's too cold for me outside too.
Fortunately I'm not really sick though my throat prefer higher temperatures and the frozen water pipes are okay today too...
Damn.

I probably will update again tomorrow.

I wished to draw the used car salesman for the lil competition between Lightship and me but just this man happened:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/manface.jpg

[Thyname]

Your 2nd onion was a great improvement. the first one lacked a core shadow and it didn't feel round and didn't feel that it was sitting on a table.

Keep up the work and maybe try out a drawing utensil that will give you variable lines. like a brush pen or dip pen. That can teach you a ton about sensitivity.

There is no Plan B,
-e

[Baconstrap]

I must say, I think you have one of the most badass "profile-pictures" on this site, it's cool.
You've made some sweet progress to, the only thing I can suggest is more value studies(sorry just watched liek the last five pages cannot watch to much cuz then my own painting time will disapear D: ) And like some other man said, paint more from mind. I've jsut started to crawl out from the safe study zone..it's hard..but cool.

Anyway stay bacon.

[Justyna]

you work hard as always, great to see such motivation :)

[Lav]

studies studies studies! Great work man, feel the skills growing in your fingertips! :D

[Ramalooke]

Yeah, great work. Keep pushing ;] and moar colour xd

[Lightship69]

You are just so busy at the moment my matey!! I loved the "lil Baby" in the bottom right of that last set that was a stand out one for me, and some good sanse of balance and movement in some of the others nice one!

The used car salesman smiles guy looks a bit more square jawed athlete guy to me though. He needs more sneaky, oily, creepy guy about him I think, after all he is a used car salesman!! LOL

stay well my mate and keep posting

[Jephyr X]

Heya...good to see all the gestures! I checked out gracefulnudes...lotza beautiful images there. Thanks.

Likin yer kitty quickies too! :)

[shiNIN]

I really can't understand why I get this many comments, I really don't do any creative or interesting work here... And lately, there are only pencils. My house were extremely cold, especially where my computer is located so I drew traditionally (I wonder where my watercolor paints, by the way), I need and like to do that anyway.
But the weather is nice again and somehow I feel easier to draw and paint, it seems I got back something from the enthusiasm I had years ago :D

swallowed fireworks: Your comment is the hardest to reply to... I'm so totally not amazing but I feel an even more urge to deserve your praise a little more. Thanks.
Of course you can progress, everyone can if put some effort into it :) Well, if it's drawing, A LOT of effort. But a little bit every day will do the trick in time, probably.
I'm a lazy one but very stubborn so even I could get somewhere one day.

Macska: Your post is full with wise/true statements. You are right, I need self confidence. I generally believe in myself but being locked up together with a very harsh critic, among others, my inner child artist lost pretty much all of its/their confidence. The problem is, I improve much slower than the standards of my critic self and BDSM isn't quite my thing. I don't let my inner psychiater get bored, I can assure you.
I know I'm improving, that part is okay. I don't understand it though, I draw so little in a so cowardly way and so on, I don't wanna let my inner critic tell you his opinion, maybe my self confidence isn't dead for good yet.
But I could improve much more if I get serious, I know it. It would be so exciting to try... When my inner critic isn't the strongest one in the bunch, I go and explore what's behind the wall.
When I was a child? That's not a good example. My inner critic was born when I was 7. I was happily drawing all the time (I loved maths even in nursery school but it was way too easy to me and I got bored so they let me draw) but when I was 7, there was a drawing competition I was participated in and when I looked at my drawing next to the others, the shock I suck epically hit me and forgot about drawing for decades. When I started again, I couldn't do it like a child. But I may do it one day.
I know I need to draw for fun (I actually do it sometimes), I'm a hedonist, after all. I couldn't even do a work that's not enjoyable. It's cruel I could desperately want to draw without actually desire to do the actual drawings/paintings, at least when I started them. It was like being dead and trying to live and feel again.
Sorry. You post triggered so many thoughts.

rumpelstiltzkin: I actually like studies too but you are right. My anatomy studies are kinda over for a while, I have more important things to practice now. Own/fun stuff too, yeah, everyone keeps telling me that and I know but it's not so easy...

Plissken: Yay! You don't know but 'discombobulated' is one of my favourite words and you almost wrote that. It seems you're experimenting with poetry as some of your texts has a nice rhyme, your writing style is already as condensed and abstract as well written poems which beauty blooms when we dig deep to understand them. Every post of yours are another rose in my ever growing collection, painted in an interesting, sometimes shocking way. I hope you still can follow me, I start to get lost and I still have so many comments to reply.

Ramalooke: There will be colors soon :) I plan to do a lot of enviros and other stuff as well, of course.
And I can't imagine I would be able to do enviros without colors, I will do simple ones and focus on brushwork, composition and colors.

Wassim: Did I paint an apple? Maybe long time ago... Whatever. Finished paintings? Maybe I try to do some portraits and enviros, I definitely don't want to do much copywork, I don't even care if I have just sketches if I get closer to grab how a human looks like...

in2eternity: Thanks :)

bobmeatbag: Thanks! I started to read the book you recommended to me, I love it :D

AdrianNagorski: I see. Well I can't help it, I use this topic as a diary, with much blurb. Writing is a way of thinking for me. I don't expect anyone to read my texts but sometimes it does happen :bashful:
Lazy trap and you?! You are my hero, you keep going into the right direction, I better start drawing seriously if I don't want totally lose to you, I'm sure I said something like this before. I'm the lazy one but I keep fighting ;)

Aragah: Imagination stuff is waiting desperately in me, I guess. It's more and more troubling... But when I don't even draw enough to warm up, I can't start something own. I fear I kinda forgot how to do that.

Thyname: Yes! I need to buy some pen with variable line width :D I like this idea.

Baconstrap: Geza, my avatar is damn cool and the Hyrtl collection of skulls are so awesome that it motivated me more than almost anything back then. Since then, I wish I could draw as good as I did that time, in that state of mind.
Value studies... You probably has right, well I need to do more of kinda everything... I will try.

Justyna: No, I should work much, much more hard :D

Lav: Thanks. Yep, I think some of my skills got better, I need to give a chance to my others skills to improve too...

Lightship: You are totally right, he's totally not a used car salesman, it was just my intention when I started to draw. I tend to do that, something else happens than what I planned.
But I will get to the used car salesman some day :D

Jephyr X: Thanks! Yep, gracefulnudes.com is a fine site and they have some wonderful texts too, they can be all enthusiastic about the pure joy of setting upon their eyes on human beauty... They may go a bit overboard with it, maybe, but I immensely enjoy those texts and hope my English gets a little more rich if I read them :D

*sigh* It was tiring.
Another two bunches of pencil stuff, next time there will be colorful digital everything but at least some clouds.
Those girl faces and my boyfriend's faces are some attempts to prepare to start my simple but evolving comic strips... :bashful: I wonder if I will be able to do something with them. My goal is to start extremely simply, I have no doubts I would improve later. I totally adore Extra Ordinary comics (http://www.exocomics.com/). They are very simple but cute and they do exist. I would be happy with a little less... But I need to jump. Not just doing what I do, not just putting my feet a tiny bit forward, no, it's a jump, it may be tiny but a jump.
It won't be easy.
I do my best to turn off my "but it must be epic" "I don't know enough anatomy or anything for that" type inner voices.

[Pixelwalker]

Thanks for visiting my sketchbook :>
Always a pleasure to see your name on my thread replies!
First of all: You got skype? Would be awesome to chat if you want to. :)

Now to your stuff.
I really like where you're going.
Your mainproblem is that everything tend to look very fast.
From your critiques I already know that you HAVE a LOT of knowledge about all that stuff.
The main problem is that you don't have enough practice.
It's like: 10 / 100 Theory / Practice

Practice your three dimensional understanding. Put lines around your objects to see the form in space.
But that's just a tiny part.

You just need to practice even more and really taaaaaaake your time. :)
There's no need to hurry while drawing.
You're not doing any comission, so you don't have a deadline.
Taking your time to observe while drawing takes you much more forward than doing 50 drawings in that time, but not memorizing anything ;)

Sup, yeah.
Just keep practicing my friend! :))

Sil

[LtPlissken]

First of all, I just want to share something,
I just read on the internet that Scwarzenegger gave up
a big secret about the third Batman movie, he admitted
that the movie was written by penguins. He admitted
this on the second congress in Vienna. Can you believe this?
I am shocked! I am simply dazed and cannot control myself.
How can the world judges let things like this to happen?
Your art is beautiful as always, I like how you give some
torque on those faces, and how your light hearted angel
winged soul gets molded into each of your creation.
Your pencils are highly honored for having themselves in
your unique hands. The pencils currently manufactured
in Indonesia, Taiwan and West Virginia are already dying
in desire to serve to you and to obey. You are the one who can
give Pinocchio a birth, you are the one who can make
Pinocchio come alive. Oh, we all wish we could be
wooden dolls once again.

[shiNIN]

Silwynar: Thanks :) I had skype a few years before but now I have only MSN. And google talk or what is it called. I rarely use any of them nowadays though.
I need practice, that's true, I feel I have much more knowledge I can use, seeing flaws and drawing are different things.
But I disagree, I need to draw quicker skethes. Maybe I need change my attitude and several other things but I take my time too much on mere studies, I think too much, I need to make 1 minute gesture sketches and whatnot. But speed isn't among the most important things at the moment. My goal was always to START TO DRAW ALREADY. I'm still not there. I happen to make some marks on the paper sometimes these days, that's cool but just a tiny step. I guess it's not so understandable but I'm the one who see what's going on.
Whatever, it's my fight. No one can help me, I need to take the steps.
*sigh*
I know I should do longer paintings too but they will be my own. I won't play with studies for too long, it would be pointless.

Plissken: If you would have watched Mawaru Pinguindrum or what is that crazy anime is called that my boyfriend watched, you wouldn't be so surprised. There's so many for you to learn :)
I pity the mentioned pencils as I mostly use ones made in Turkey, they are cheap but cool, my favourite one has little green apples painted on it, how awesome is that? :D

I still can't go back to digital... I'm back in my own room though, it will be better from now on. My environment is important for me.
Pencil and some thin marker:

[rem92]

Wassup Shinin, you got some nice studies going, i'd just like to see more life figure studies, some long posses, i think it'd help.

[shiNIN]

rem92: Life drawing is nice, I know I should do it more :( My only model won't be around for a few days and he can't stand still. He says it's because he's a human, not an object.
I could draw myself as well but I usually don't like this idea.
I rarely meet other people and I never can draw them anyway, I tried.

The weather is nice, the house is warm enough... I'm still a bit lazy but hopeful... But I didn't bring any exiting stuff, just a few sketches for Spartan Camp #214. The first one is a reply for someone there, the objects are for the optional, material study. I planned to draw sexy gals scantily clad in some material but whatever.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/clemon.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc214cats.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh287/shiNIN666/gfx/sc214material.jpg

[Ramalooke]

yaaaay color, finaly! keep it up we want moar ;3